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Speaker 1: Oh la okay, I'm one love okay, and speech from

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Speaker 1: So, so let me ask all of y'all collectively as

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Speaker 1: And I believe that's the first time they televised it

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Speaker 1: But but I think that in my opinion, right, I

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Speaker 2: We all the original source. Yes, they did a great job.

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Speaker 9: The system was a great job made.

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Speaker 1: I think the people because I was it little John,

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Speaker 9: Like like that, and I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: We're ready for something like that now. Yeah, we're sure

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Speaker 3: I think we're mature enough to Yeah, because we're talking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even with old.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, even with the committees right,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like like because because they never.

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Speaker 2: We need our own committee, without a doubt.

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Speaker 11: I think also, to be fair, hip hop is not

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Speaker 12: Throughout the life of hip hop is that, you know,

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Speaker 11: Now you have such a wide variety of what is.

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Speaker 6: So if you had something like that, you can have the.

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Speaker 11: Categories and not that that's been the old now that

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Speaker 1: We had ghost based on this show, and that's what

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Speaker 2: He said, Yo, it's.

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Speaker 1: Messed up to say like hip hop and then you

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Speaker 2: You know, like sub genres, genres we deserve that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, our new album is called adult contemporary hip

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Speaker 1: To your pres Yes that I mean, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: He as is as a black man.

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Speaker 1: Now he developed and I identify with that more like

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Speaker 9: I personally love it.

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Speaker 2: It's dope.

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Speaker 8: I think I think there needs to be different categories,

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Speaker 8: lot of young people ain't vibing with what we're vibing with,

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Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, and they feel left out

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Speaker 7: Has a facilion genre like cre like that to discard

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Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 2: But but but but we would give them their lane too.

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Speaker 1: They would have the new hip I will say, drill lane.

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Speaker 1: But then there's a lot of like you need a

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Speaker 1: I always wanted to ask, because like, do you guys

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And you know, I can imagine.

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Speaker 1: Never heard like nothing like not like when they're out

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Speaker 2: Away with it.

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Speaker 5: So we just I can't speak for Rocks we never

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Speaker 10: Right, so yeah, we just I think for us, we

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Speaker 5: We just wanted to stay in that vibrant energy.

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Speaker 10: And then we were able to do shows with like

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Speaker 5: Then we did like a whole tour with all.

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Speaker 9: We were we were the only ones able to do it,

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Speaker 5: So yeah, and I was like, way too y'all to

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Speaker 9: Let me let me keep it real.

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Speaker 5: We just found a lot of that out recently. We

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Speaker 9: Yeah, at least some of them.

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Speaker 9: And the most addictive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I say this all the time.

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Speaker 2: And vice versus some people.

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Speaker 1: So some people chase that fame and they chase they

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Speaker 9: What I'm saying, So like and that's that's I think

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Speaker 8: Like for me, I was always trying to just focus

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Speaker 10: Well, I know one thing that kept me grounded to

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Speaker 5: My mom was like, I need you to walk down

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Speaker 7: Mama kept it real, But I'm sure it's all also

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially at that time. But I got the battle

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Speaker 9: Well, I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 8: I come from Milwaukee, and the disparities between black and

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Speaker 9: We're I'm raised.

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Speaker 9: Statistically as the worst place for black people to grow

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Speaker 2: Wow, I heard you say that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And so I did see the disparities.

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Speaker 2: Day, biggest black publication there you go, the biggest.

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Speaker 9: Black publication in all of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 8: And so for me, I had this burning passion to

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Speaker 8: we got this, we got that, we got this, Now

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Speaker 8: And that's that was a big thing. So my point

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Speaker 2: We're on that mission.

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Speaker 9: We was on that mission.

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Speaker 8: So as far as how hard it was, it was hard,

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Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like, yeah, I was gonna say the other

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Speaker 3: It was definitely our backgrounds how we came up, Like

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Speaker 2: I hooked up with them. Yep, more community people, more

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Speaker 9: She's mom was a dancing truck helping our community, right exactly.

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Speaker 5: The stuff was coming at us, but it wasn't.

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Speaker 8: And think about what we was doing back in those days,

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00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 8: like when we first started, we would do sound check,

450
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 8: leave sound check and go where y'all remember community center,

451
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 8: two community centers. We go to the projects. We would

452
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 8: go to the projects and speak about things there. We

453
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 8: go to the homeless shelters and speak about things that.

454
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 8: We had two tours going on simultaneously. One tour was

455
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 8: the shows at the night and then we had a

456
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 8: whole other person named Dearrel who used to work with

457
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 8: Bob Marla. She she was in charge of making sure

458
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 8: we were going to the community centers every day every day,

459
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 8: so tours like living that. You know what I'm saying,

460
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 8: so non stop, NonStop, and we all you know, helped

461
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 8: us focus, you know, to what.

462
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 5: Speech was saying about and rise about the upbringing.

463
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Speaker 10: My mom was one of the first black on dance

464
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 10: schools owners in the States, so I grew up with

465
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 10: the artists and.

466
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 5: Just you know, coming from a t L. Being born

467
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 5: in the Swats, we had a level of black xcents.

468
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

469
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 10: Well Sea Low used to take dance from my mom.

470
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 10: My mother talked him tapping jail.

471
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I went to school Sleeping Grown.

472
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, so shout out to Sea Loan and Sleeping Ground

473
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 10: went to We went to there together.

474
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we used to He was in the dance group.

475
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 5: I was in dance room a lot of and we go.

476
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 5: Wave was in that grop like it's just the whole

477
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 5: at L, you know what I mean.

478
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember going to a c L and please

479
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: people from at I don't kill me. Well, I remember

480
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: back then and I used to say.

481
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: It's Brooklyn in the house. People were.

482
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: Because I remember ATL at one point didn't have an identity.

483
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: Was like when you look at it now, like I remember, uh,

484
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 1: I think I think he was on uh be Hot

485
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: be High TV and you're saying that I couldn't go

486
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: to people with a record label because they had no no.

487
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 2: No, nothing in Atlanta.

488
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: And I remember just looking at it now, like every

489
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: record label.

490
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: In the world.

491
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 10: So I want to shout out some artists like Atlanta

492
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 10: did have a sound, but it was just I think

493
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 10: it was just more regional local at the time when

494
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 10: we came out and kund Of exploded because it was

495
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 10: t O C. Criss Cross, I think we were all

496
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 10: around the same time.

497
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 5: But Sammy, Sam, Hitman Sam and Sam right in the

498
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 5: dream him, Yes, it.

499
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: Was a lot of that's the sound we were saying

500
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: the South, Oh yeah, from from because.

501
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 5: From someone else, but.

502
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 8: He yeah, I think he was from New York originally,

503
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 8: I think, and then he came down to the land,

504
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 8: but he was doing this.

505
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: Every day.

506
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 10: But he made his mark in the at so yeah,

507
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 10: so they you know, we definitely had a sound and

508
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 10: then he was Yeah, but it was just not as.

509
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 9: Global, but it wasn't labels at that labels.

510
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 6: Shout out to the DJ dj is in Atlanta.

511
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 11: They created like a culture around our music and our

512
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 11: sound that.

513
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 6: Was a very specific DJ smurf.

514
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, what I'm saying sort of evolution of that.

515
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: I feel like I saw the episode.

516
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: Of that because I felt like it was so much

517
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: time that they was gonna, you know, keeping to say

518
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: like they're from over here, like they're like like it

519
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: was one thing for short deep for certain I know

520
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: this is so simplistic, but it was the waffle House.

521
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: We didn't have to We're like, like, you got a

522
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: club at the fucking.

523
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: Like the Flex Club going on to me like this

524
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: leaving the show was like they're like, they're like, where

525
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: you're going.

526
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: We were like, yeah, where you're going?

527
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: And they said the waffle House and was like they

528
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: were saying that like it was something to Julian.

529
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: And then even the strip clubs like when when what

530
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: was it? Players Club? When when? When we heard that,

531
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: we were like us in New York, we were like,

532
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: wait a minute, you'll throw money.

533
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 6: We were like talking about the German's Club, the.

534
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: Gentleman's Club that I never seen.

535
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: That's the first time in Atlanta and then I came

536
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: to Miami, but it was the first time where they

537
00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: chilled like they and they were eating, how they were

538
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: breaking they records they were like and it was a

539
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: certain type of job I believe Jamaine called the strip

540
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: club music. He's like, there's also strip club music that's

541
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: just made for just strip clubs.

542
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 2: But I had never seen that.

543
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let me actually ask you, right, because from Milwaukee. Yeah,

544
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: I believe you said that. The day you graduated, I left,

545
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: someone pulled out a gun on you. Facts and you

546
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: had left. Yeah, but at the time, Atlanta is not

547
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: the place that it is now. What made you choose

548
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 1: Atlanta of everywhere else you could have went?

549
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 9: So I used to spend all my summers in Tennessee.

550
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 8: My grandmother's from there, my father's from there, everybody on

551
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 8: my father's side, So.

552
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: I loved it.

553
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 9: I fell in love with the South.

554
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 8: I fell in love with the community, the self determination,

555
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 8: like people was growing their own foods. They was poor,

556
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 8: but they were able to barter and make things happen,

557
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 8: and it was all in the community. I fell in

558
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 8: love with that.

559
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: So when I.

560
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 8: Graduated high school, which I did horribly in high school,

561
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 8: so I knew I needed to do something different in

562
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 8: my life because I wasn't going anywhere.

563
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 9: And I got this gun pulled on me at my graduation.

564
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: And I said the actually graduation after you left.

565
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 8: After I, and so I said, you know what if

566
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 8: I don't. If I don't leave here, I'm not gonna.

567
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 8: I think I won't make it because stuff was getting tight,

568
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 8: and so I I wanted to go down south. So

569
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 8: I went to Atlanta because Atlanta was it had first

570
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 8: of all school, which is where I met Headliner, who

571
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 8: was the first person I brought into the group was Headliner.

572
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 8: He we met at Art Institute of Atlanta. So it

573
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 8: was the one place that my low grade point average,

574
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 8: which was a zero point nine, but my low grade

575
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 8: point average could get into this school, the only school

576
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 8: I could think of. So that's Atlanta was the place

577
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 8: to come. Not to mention, it was a lot of

578
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 8: progressive stuff coming up in Atlanta. It was like a

579
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 8: little Africa like it was very progressive, Like people were

580
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 8: thinking differently in Atlanta.

581
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, because what it is now is

582
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: like it's almost baby Wakanda.

583
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: That's what it was. Even more we didn't get to

584
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: see that. Yeah, yeah it was. It was.

585
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 8: It was a lot of like revolutionary stuff going on there,

586
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 8: like the main community we grew up in, or at

587
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 8: least I could speak for me and Headliner.

588
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 9: We spent most of our time in West End. Well,

589
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 9: West End is a very cultural center of Atlanta.

590
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 8: All the Rosters, all the Africans, a lot of you know,

591
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 8: Nation of Islam, Shrine of the Black Madonna, like all

592
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 8: of these kind of like landmark.

593
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 9: Places and so that's the area. And of course the

594
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 9: HBCUs all of that exactly vegetarian.

595
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 8: So so all of these places was where we used

596
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 8: to hang out at. So it was sort of our

597
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 8: like place to be, you know, it's where we felt

598
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 8: the most comfortable, at the West End and the West End,

599
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 8: West End which is still a dope culture there.

600
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: So did it really take y' all three years, five months,

601
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: two days, and did wow?

602
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: It was like it's got to be true.

603
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

604
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

605
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 5: And the evolution of it all, it was really fun.

606
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 5: So I mass speech and headliner, So my Ski and

607
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: Bird we got a shout out.

608
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 9: We got to shout out Ian birt Atlanta.

609
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 10: I mean, if you were doing music in the nineties

610
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 10: and and then blessed or touch it, it happened in

611
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 10: the eighties, eighties, I mean speeching with eighty eight eighty nine.

612
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 10: I was thirteen when I joined the group. My sister

613
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 10: was offered the opportunity to dance, she didn't want to

614
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 10: do it.

615
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: So they want to dances, right, Yeah, I want her

616
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: to dances.

617
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 10: I went to the audition. I look because I love Come.

618
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 10: I was dressed like come. We all did our audition

619
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 10: and then we were together for a while. Then we

620
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 10: had some people nicer ashtrak They came in some other dances,

621
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 10: and then we met Rise and.

622
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: Engaged.

623
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 5: They were engaged.

624
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 9: I think you all was engaged at the time we

625
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 9: were working on it.

626
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and when it was at a step

627
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 5: show of Greeks, that's what we meant.

628
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 9: Stuff we got booed on that show. We did miss

629
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 9: the window we got, but it was ahead of his time.

630
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 8: Atlanta was on a certain general I think it was

631
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 8: ahead of his time. And and so for us, we

632
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 8: were just doing crazy stuff like that they didn't get.

633
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 8: And so yeah, they like, did you consider what you

634
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 8: were doing? Experimenting?

635
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 9: Like very much. So, But I'll say this, I got

636
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 9: a shout.

637
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 8: Out Dayla Soul because when they released three Feet High,

638
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 8: or even when they released plug Tuning and stuff like that,

639
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 8: they gave us permission.

640
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 9: I didn't know them, but I'm saying.

641
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 8: Meaning when they did it, it was like, okay, we

642
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 8: could go further than because it worked and it.

643
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: Was they were different and it worked, different worked.

644
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 8: And it was dope, right, And so I always tell them.

645
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 8: I tell them this all the time. And I used

646
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 8: to call pass back then. I got his number from

647
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 8: a sister named Kat and I would you want to.

648
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: Be on Tommy boy?

649
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 9: You can imagine? Was like, no, you don't want that.

650
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: So it was like, no, do something different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

651
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: So you was raised Muslim? I was in California.

652
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 11: Yes, Okay, my father is ma'am Okay, lame hot spun

653
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 11: that's right.

654
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: Mass Wow.

655
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 12: And if we just finished the mass it there, We've

656
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 12: been building it. He's been building it since I was

657
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 12: in school there. It's just clear Muhammed and it's now

658
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 12: a beautiful school.

659
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: And Moss and he's.

660
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 11: So dad yeah and I'm old, he's ninety four, like.

661
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, let's make it.

662
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, because what was it?

663
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: What was the fight for the religion? It was the

664
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: joy that had.

665
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that I never could understand, like

666
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: of what religion I researched you.

667
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: I knew you was a Muslim.

668
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: But one thing that the group embraces is it feels

669
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: like it's all religion. Is that something that could because

670
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: it feels like it's Christians is down with y'all, it's

671
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: father Sensus down with y'all.

672
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Am I accurate in assumption?

673
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 8: In the beginnings it was just spirituality because for me personally,

674
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 8: I really wasn't. I wasn't a Christian I was at

675
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 8: that time. I wasn't a Christian. I was more so,

676
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 8: you know, just just believer in spirituality, you know what

677
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 8: I'm saying exactly. I was sort of on that tip

678
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 8: at the time. And so, yeah, we embraced everything to

679
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 8: some extent or another, you know.

680
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 9: But it's funny.

681
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 8: I did use a lot of talk like Lord, and

682
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 8: you know, I say stuff like this, you know, Tennessee. Like,

683
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 8: so I do think that it's sort of seeped into

684
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 8: me from my grandmother, you know, just being raised around it.

685
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, But the gospel group they just labeled it

686
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: conscious though. That was the easy way to talk about it,

687
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: Call it conscious and conscious.

688
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: Do you think that's the easy way to talk about it?

689
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 5: Conscious's the easy way to accept all of it?

690
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: Okay, exactly, we're just conscious, just conscious band, that's fact.

691
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 9: That's fact because.

692
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: There's a difference between conscious and backpack rack, right right,

693
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: It's like I believe, like most is that all the

694
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: people's party, And I assessed that too.

695
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so well, okay, what's it called hold on? Hold on?

696
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: Your father's club when you first learned how to dj?

697
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 8: Yep, So my dad owned the night. He was a

698
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 8: serial entrepreneur. So he started off with gas station. He

699
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 8: had a fast food restaurant, he had a corn roasting business,

700
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 8: and then he got this club corn roasting.

701
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: I want to invest in that business. So he started a.

702
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 9: Club called the Fox Trap.

703
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 8: And at the Fox Trap, it was the best club

704
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 8: in Milwaukee for black people. So everybody was going there.

705
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 8: The DJs were crazy, but they weren't at that time.

706
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 8: This is in the eighties at that time, eighty three

707
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 8: somewhere in there. At that time, DJ's and Milwaukee at

708
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 8: least weren't scratching and mixing and stuff. But I was

709
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 8: because I was in love with like grahmm mix of

710
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 8: dst and you know what I'm saying, like Herbie Hancock

711
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 8: on the Grammys.

712
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 9: Actually, when they did.

713
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: Rocket, it was like that was my first time ever

714
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 2: seeing scratch.

715
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 9: So I was on that tip.

716
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 8: So I learned how to do like the regular fades

717
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 8: and stuff like that from the DJs. But then I

718
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 8: was bringing to Milwaukee, you know, scratching and mixing and

719
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 8: stuff like that.

720
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: What was the name of the group, What was Attack?

721
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 9: Attack was my first group, yeah, exactly.

722
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: And that was the first people on Whack in Milwaukee,

723
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: first black people at first hip hop's.

724
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 8: It's argued that we're you know, there was another group

725
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 8: that did like some kind of wrestling record that had

726
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 8: rap in it, you know how like fat back, like

727
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 8: you know, it's sort of like debated, but like, but yeah,

728
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 8: we was one of the first without the questions.

729
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 9: So it was probably the first or second, depends how

730
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 9: you look at it.

731
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: I went to Milwaukee one time and they had shootouts

732
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: and pips. I was like, wait a minute, facts, I

733
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: was like baseball team.

734
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I want to talk about Tennessee, okay, because

735
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 7: I was surprised to find out that this was the

736
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 7: last record y'all recorded for that album.

737
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so what happened?

738
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 8: We finished the record, We recorded the record album done.

739
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 8: We did it in Milwaukee actually at a studio called

740
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 8: Tracks thirty two, and then unfortunately my grandmother passed that

741
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 8: same week my brother died, and so the last place

742
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 8: I saw both of them was at my grandmother's funeral

743
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 8: in Tennessee. So that song just was written out of

744
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 8: pure motions, just like as you can see, you know,

745
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 8: you can tell, you know what I'm saying with the

746
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 8: with the lyrics and everything. So so you know, that

747
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 8: was the last record we did, and we did that

748
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 8: one at Bobby brown studio called boss Bosstown.

749
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 9: He had a studio which is now stink Oni.

750
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: Now.

751
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, which is how good that record felt for

752
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: me as a youngster. And I'm i'm uh.

753
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: I was born ninety seventy seven, so I must have

754
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: didn't pay attention to the lyrics and just pay attention

755
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: to the feeling.

756
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: I would put that record on for a good feeling.

757
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: I didn't know.

758
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: Here's because the melody and the message was so powerful

759
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: that I might not never listened to the lyrics, so

760
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: like I would take me to the place I didn't

761
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: even realize you were.

762
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: Saying out of this, like oh this might be with

763
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: this record, like this is energetically a little bit, you know,

764
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: so it is, but you know it's funny.

765
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 8: Caris one called me one day, he called my I was,

766
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 8: and I wasn't there. The answer machine picked up, and

767
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 8: so he left a message and he's like, yo, speech,

768
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 8: I'm just kidding.

769
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: This ten years later, so it's like yo.

770
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 8: It was so like it was encouraging to me because

771
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 8: to me, that's a skill set, you know what I'm saying,

772
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 8: to be able to be able to talk about stuff

773
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 8: that's really from your soul.

774
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 9: But it doesn't bring you down. It lifts you up.

775
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 8: And you don't even have to listen to it if

776
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 8: you don't want the first time, Like the lyrical track,

777
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 8: you know that track of it, you don't have to

778
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 8: even be on that track, You just be on the

779
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 8: five you know what I'm saying. It just that's the

780
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 8: track you want to be on, you know. So it's

781
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 8: just different people could get on different tracks listening to

782
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 8: it a lot of times, you know what I'm saying,

783
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 8: Different different pathways or whatever.

784
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: That's the power of music, though, it's the power.

785
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 9: It's like I just I just saw what I saw

786
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 9: and I felt what I felt exactly right.

787
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: And every time I get it, it still goosebumps to

788
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: this day, you know what I mean. I still remember

789
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: the black and white video. I remember like Ralph McDaniel's

790
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: I remember going to the jukebox, me trying to order

791
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: it and get in trouble for you.

792
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: So it's like it's like damn. And then years later

793
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, holy ship.

794
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: As a as a lyricist, I'm listening to the lyrics,

795
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, you've been celebrating like almost.

796
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: It is.

797
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: But then what's crazy about that is his what's the

798
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: best thing about the group?

799
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: Right?

800
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: Is us all known? We come from Africa? Right, no

801
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: matter what I don't keep, you're white, black, Germany's original whatever,

802
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: you all, you all come from Africa. And the one

803
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: thing about the act for him Proverbs is the family

804
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: trade is the fact that like, you know, what's my

805
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: man name, bob oj Like I love that even the

806
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: story of you asking him, I wanted to elder person

807
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: in the group at the time.

808
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: I believe he was fifty seven or something like that,

809
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: and it was just like when you hear that story,

810
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: it's just like that's that.

811
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: African uh, you know messages that we heard like how

812
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: family was and how when they see it when they

813
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: say when they say they take a village to raise

814
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: the child, that's what.

815
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: They talk about.

816
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: The African villages and you sit there and when I

817
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: look at the group always from from back then to now,

818
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: I always say, damn, Like if I've learned something from them,

819
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: I've always learned that the African caromatererie that y'all put together.

820
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: And I even see like like like I kind of

821
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: like kept going back to see like, you know, the

822
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 1: interviews that was happening after the Grammys, and I'm sitting

823
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: back and I'm saying, these guys have always been the same.

824
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: They stayed the same, and that's a lot that's a

825
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: lot harder to do. So let me get back to

826
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: my original question is how hard is that?

827
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 8: Right?

828
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Because back then, uh, there was gang bangers, Like it

829
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: really wasn't fly to where you know, it was the

830
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: X Clan era for righteous teachers, and then that kind

831
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: of like you know, you know, went out and then

832
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: it was like gang banger's big, and you know, being

833
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: a drug dealer was big, and then how how was

834
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: it to navigate through that and still maintain who you are?

835
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: I know I asked it in a different way, but

836
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm asking this musically now because like when you start

837
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: to be along winning with this question, if you look

838
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: at a lot of New York artists when when the

839
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: South started to change, South started to take over a

840
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: lot of New York artists started to play their bags

841
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: with the South and change their their their their tone

842
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: of music and try to see who they could fit in.

843
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: What made y'all never want to fit in? For us?

844
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 8: I guess the sort of good part about it for

845
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 8: us was we was before a lot of that, so

846
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 8: you know, it was before our cast was before. So

847
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 8: for us, it was like, okay, you know we was

848
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 8: playing it earlier. Mama is always on stage. We brought

849
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 8: this like harmonica energy, you know, to the hip hop sounds.

850
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 8: So it's like for us, it was just trying to

851
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 8: be unique, trying to trying to bring that Southern energy,

852
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 8: even the video Tennessee, making it in the rural South

853
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 8: instead of in the city landscapes.

854
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 9: Which is what New York was already on that right,

855
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 9: So just trying to be different.

856
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 8: It wasn't that hard because back then you were celebrated

857
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 8: for being absolutely unique. Like if you can bring something

858
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 8: unique to to some extent or another, you're going to

859
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 8: be celebrated.

860
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 9: Because that's what that was. What was, That's what it

861
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 9: was about. You know what I mean, and no one.

862
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 2: Sounded like each other prob exactly.

863
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 9: So no, it was it was, it was dope, it was.

864
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: It was easier for us because of that, because but

865
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 2: it was still hard.

866
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 8: Because I mean, here we are, like I was, like

867
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 8: we was talking about when we got booed at the

868
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 8: Step Show, A lot of the music that was coming

869
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 8: out in the South at that exact time sort of

870
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 8: had that.

871
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 9: Miami based style.

872
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 8: It was, you know, one twenty you know what I'm saying,

873
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 8: one thirty piece per minute, and we're.

874
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: Coming out with this other vibe.

875
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 8: We was very influenced by New York, very influent. Well

876
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 8: I'm from Milwaukee, so for me, I was very influenced

877
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 8: by New York, but also DC go go music, the you.

878
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 9: Know, house music from the Chicago.

879
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 8: Chicago meant a lot to us, Like that was a

880
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 8: big deal ninety miles away, an hour and a half away,

881
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 8: so house was a thing, you know, the house music.

882
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 9: So so all of those different styles we embraced it.

883
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 8: And I'm the producer for the group, so that early music,

884
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 8: I was producing that stuff too, so it was like,

885
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 8: you know, I wanted to embrace all of that sound.

886
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 8: So it was a little easier because there wasn't we

887
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 8: wasn't expected to do a particular thing.

888
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 3: We had all those energies though. Some of those energy

889
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: like I'm from Jersey, the same area where so me

890
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 3: and pr T from the same neighborhood exactly, and Wise

891
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: and culture Freedom from the same neighborhood. So when I

892
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 3: met speaking, so when I met them, the Jersey energy facts,

893
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: the New York energy, the house energy, because.

894
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: Jersey was big in house at that time. It was

895
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: huge in the house.

896
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 9: I agree, I agree, but I was probably into New York.

897
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: Okay, So like Latin Quarter going to uh uh, I

898
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: wouldn't say Red Para, that's way, that's way back.

899
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: Uh what is it?

900
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: Uh?

901
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: Anyway, Mars? You know, so I was. I brought that

902
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: energy to the band fast.

903
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: So when we started performing, people knew, like, oh, he's

904
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: from up top.

905
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: But it's not just the Georgia energy, you know what

906
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So we had to cover he had New

907
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: York Atlanta. Yeah, exactly.

908
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: I feel like, for lack of a better term, y'all

909
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: officially a global band.

910
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 8: We are global at the end of the day because

911
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 8: and it's funny because while hip hop obviously represents wherever

912
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 8: you're from, right, I was on to me personally, I

913
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 8: was on a tip. It ain't where you're from, it's

914
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 8: where you're at, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, Okay,

915
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 8: I love Milwaukee, I love Atlanta, I love like I said, DC,

916
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 8: blah blah blah. So for me, it was just a

917
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 8: matter of, well, this is what we're doing, this is

918
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 8: what we're bringing to the table at all, exactly exactly

919
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 8: in the past thirty.

920
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: IM trying to say, you know what I believe or

921
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: like I believe on certain job advocations they should ask

922
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: hip hop right, like, because I believe some people religion

923
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: into some people who raises really hip hop Like.

924
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: Just no, I'm just being honest.

925
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: Like I know people who I don't consider black white nothing,

926
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: I just considered them hip hop.

927
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: We could just sit there and just talk hip hop

928
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,479
Speaker 2: for nothing else.

929
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: And that's like crazy because this music raised this person.

930
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: He might have not been raised by me at all,

931
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: it might have been for Portland, Oregon, but his knowledge

932
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: of hip hop.

933
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: He knows g rapp like I do. We used to

934
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 2: talk about the hip hop flag that you wish to see.

935
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: That always the hotels, you know, flag.

936
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: Just think about it, right, that's crazy, so so think

937
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 1: about and this is a real ship.

938
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: I know I'm saying this like you know, bucking out,

939
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: but I'm not wucking out.

940
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: Like if you was to check into a hotel and

941
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: you was to see the hip hop flag and you say,

942
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: this is, by.

943
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: The way, I have to follow all the rules. It

944
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: doesn't mean I could break the rules because but like

945
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 2: for lack of like like a soho house, but these

946
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: people go to whole house and they respect the rules.

947
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: They do it.

948
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: Imagine we had a hip hop so whole house. Like

949
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know I'm bugging out.

950
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 10: Are you?

951
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: Are you setting it up? Because you're doesn't this No, no.

952
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: No, no no, I'm I'm speaking at to Paris because

953
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: I ain't no clue how to do it.

954
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: I have a clue how would it would look? You

955
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

956
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying like like me doing that, like you know,

957
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, going to Hollywood and hanging out and these

958
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: guys going hold these clubs is here, and the clubs

959
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: is here, and I'm saying, Okay.

960
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: Then one day I was with alchemists.

961
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: And alchemist says to me, we're in Amsterdam, and he goes,

962
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: I go, I can't smoke at my hotel, so I'm

963
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: going to smoke. And in the coffee shop. He goes, well,

964
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: you can smoke at my hotel. And I go, well,

965
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: what is your hotel? Why your hotel is special? He goes, well,

966
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm at the hip hop hotel. And I went to

967
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: his hotel. It was graffiti everywhere.

968
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: It was graffiti everywhere, and I was like, holy shit.

969
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: And it was smoke everywhere too, though, Like I didn't

970
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: agree with this smoking.

971
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: The lobby more. I was like, hold on, hold on,

972
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, hold up to boss some type

973
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: of because some type of some type of But what

974
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: I thought.

975
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: About it is I'm like, okay, if this is an

976
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: eighteen years or older, okay, but that's not that's not it.

977
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: I want hotels where it's like a hip hop hotel,

978
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: which we're accepted, you know what I mean, Like like

979
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: and when we deserved that at this point, and we

980
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: have we have the bank, and we have the characters

981
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: to get behind a person like I always I always

982
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: said this, I always.

983
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: Wanted chrest One.

984
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: And we bring up Karris one and me and me

985
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: and him been fighting for the hip hop union forever.

986
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: I always would put the budget in Karos one hand

987
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: like this.

988
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 2: I would put it in Chris hands like this, like

989
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: it's sang for hip hop. Yeah, like Curtis Blue, Harris

990
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 2: One is involved.

991
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 9: So you know we're doing that.

992
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: There were in there, yea, because when you think about it,

993
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: the only other entertainment that doesn't have a union is boxing.

994
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: We're not that bootle bro.

995
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 12: Come on, is American worldwide culture now? Like everything is

996
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 12: influenced by hip hop?

997
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 10: Fact?

998
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, the biggest cultural export from this country.

999
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 11: The country the country wave now that's out double hip

1000
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 11: hop is a little it's trapped country now like that.

1001
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: I love that. I love it. I love to think

1002
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 2: about this hotel.

1003
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 13: You see because because architect, you know, I'm like this,

1004
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 13: but beyond that, beyond that, beyond the hotel.

1005
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: Flag, the flag when you look at the establishment, like

1006
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: what we look at the establishment.

1007
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: If you see, uh a Jamaican flag, you know, I

1008
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: this guy might have some good chicken, you know.

1009
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Like like like you know what I'm saying,

1010
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: like my bad Jamaicans a little good that's all we get.

1011
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Jamaica flag you mean like that, But you know what

1012
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. So I always wanted to hip hop.

1013
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 9: Flag like wherever we go, Like does Alchemists actually have

1014
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 9: a hip hop There was a.

1015
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: Hip hop hotel when he was staying at it, and

1016
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: he told me, and I don't I don't know, I

1017
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: don't know if he was.

1018
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: It was actually called the hip hop he called okay,

1019
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: but I walked in and we smoked, and I was like,

1020
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: holy ship. But I knew what he meant because they

1021
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: accepted our kind of like, oh no, I'm limited just

1022
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 1: smoking that because that's that's like, you know, it's very simple,

1023
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: but I'm saying it's totality.

1024
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: What it meant was, Yo, you.

1025
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: Want to a room, you would go through graffiti in

1026
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: rue room, You'll go like DJ in run room.

1027
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: And I was just like, oh, that's kind of like

1028
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: that's crazy. Yeah, years ago. That is years ago. I

1029
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: want to track back to the album.

1030
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 7: Again, okay, because we're talking about how you guys were

1031
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 7: experimenting making the music and it felt maybe different, right

1032
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 7: than what was going on at the time.

1033
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 2: How do you get a deal two years? Okay? My bad?

1034
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 9: And you know everybody turned us down.

1035
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 8: So and I often say this, I think you already

1036
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 8: picked up on this, Like we we shopped everywhere, you

1037
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, But they just was turning us down.

1038
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 8: And there was no labels in Atlanta at the time.

1039
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 8: This was before La Face La Face South came soon

1040
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 8: after us, but there was no labels that was doing

1041
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 8: hip hop at the time. So you it was a

1042
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 8: tough It was a tough you know road, and only

1043
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 8: one label, which is Chrysalis, took a chance on us,

1044
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 8: and they didn't give us an album deal.

1045
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 9: They gave us a single deal.

1046
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 8: The first deal was for mister Wendell with a B

1047
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 8: side of Natural and this wasn't created yet, this song Wow.

1048
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 9: So we signed that deal.

1049
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 8: And I don't even know if y'all know this part

1050
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 8: because my mom told me I had two years to

1051
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 8: try to make it in the rest of development in Atlanta,

1052
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 8: and if I didn't make it, she said, you're coming

1053
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 8: back to Milwaukee and you're going to school. We didn't

1054
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 8: make it into year, which is why that three years

1055
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 8: school teacher, right she was, and you know that publisher

1056
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 8: this paper, and so two years it didn't happen. So

1057
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 8: I went back to Milwaukee, and that's why we ended

1058
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 8: up recording in Milwaukee. We got the single deal three

1059
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 8: years five months and we got that single deal and

1060
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 8: we ended up recording the album in Milwaukee, and then

1061
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 8: that single you Know a Little, the last thing.

1062
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 9: We did and that was in Atlanta.

1063
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: The album was.

1064
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 5: What speech was saying.

1065
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 10: I think we did a lot of shows, like back then,

1066
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 10: it was a lot of showcases and stuff.

1067
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 5: We performed all the time.

1068
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 9: All the time. Every weekend shows we did V one on.

1069
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 10: Three would have like stuff like that, we didn't do them,

1070
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 10: and so we were constantly like performing. We used to

1071
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 10: rehearse eight hours a day, and at this place called rehearse.

1072
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 5: Too much, and so.

1073
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, jam.

1074
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 10: We started going to crossovers and rehearsing there all the time.

1075
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 10: I think we were the first hip hop out of

1076
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 10: crossover studios, So I think that.

1077
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 5: Has something to do with it too. And then I

1078
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 5: remember the year we did Jack the Rappers.

1079
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 10: So we did Jack the Rappers, and I remember when

1080
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 10: we did the performance, no one was in the room.

1081
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 5: No woman, no one heard, no one was. Let me

1082
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 5: tell you the power of the of the.

1083
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 10: Music vibrationally, we started playing one by one, then Naughty

1084
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 10: by Nature, I mean.

1085
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 9: And after the whole room was just packed out with

1086
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 9: just these people that we look up to.

1087
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: And this is the first time you're performing as Atlanta Group.

1088
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:56,959
Speaker 10: Well yeah, and so after that, that's when I feel

1089
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 10: like everything kind of just took off.

1090
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 9: It was a very raw show.

1091
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: It was it was.

1092
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 10: It was a beautiful, vibrational thing. And I want to

1093
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 10: say the rest of open to me. We always have

1094
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 10: that vibrational energy, like when we come on stage.

1095
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 5: I think it moves.

1096
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: About y'all, me doing the research and seeing flyers and

1097
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: seeing y'all. Like some cases the groups, I was like

1098
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: they was there was the logical people tonight.

1099
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: Everybody had to see you like this is now that

1100
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: we're good? Yeah?

1101
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 10: You know that good?

1102
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 2: Yeah? So how about Easy? I was your ladyship with Easy?

1103
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 9: I never met you?

1104
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: Never met Easy? Okay, I never met Easier?

1105
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 9: Did y'all have you all met?

1106
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: Okay?

1107
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 9: I met you?

1108
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: Okay? And that was interesting? Okay because wait, wait, what

1109
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: about the airport? Wasn't that Easy at the airport?

1110
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 14: Tell me more?

1111
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 9: Maybe we were.

1112
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: Walking in the airport one time and they were together.

1113
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 3: This is when all the together can walk because they

1114
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 3: were gangster.

1115
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: We like, you know, we ain't know what we can

1116
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: speak about. We got going, you know, you're in an air.

1117
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 3: Going in the morning, and I think it was easy

1118
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 3: to say why they're to speak to us because he

1119
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 3: knew it was us.

1120
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: Somebody came and got us and we walked back. Okay,

1121
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: I didn't know that all right, So we walked back.

1122
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: We said was something that we went on the car.

1123
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 8: We definitely see I'm a huge fan of n W A,

1124
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 8: like a huge fan, so I mean, for me, it was.

1125
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 8: But I will say I now get what at that

1126
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 8: time period, we were sort of pitted against gangst to

1127
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 8: hip hop, and I think it was mistaken because I

1128
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 8: would get on stage and say a lot of our

1129
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 8: peers are calling black women bitches and holes.

1130
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 9: We're not down with that. But we weren't saying anything

1131
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 9: bad about those that were down with that. We're just

1132
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 9: saying we're not down. We're trying to do something different.

1133
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 8: But I understand how that could have been misconstrued as

1134
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 8: like we're dissing you know, anybody that's not you know

1135
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 8: what I'm saying, Like absolutely, So I think I think

1136
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 8: that's why we were probably in a in a zone

1137
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 8: of are we speaking like are we cool?

1138
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 9: You know?

1139
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

1140
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 7: It's funny you said, because we had come on last

1141
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 7: week and I didn't know that he was on the

1142
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 7: n w A tour with play and.

1143
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: I was like, this is this just makes so much sense.

1144
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 2: We just literally had said you come up with I.

1145
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 9: Mean it's a master like a boy Jains.

1146
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1147
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 8: For us, it was, you know, it was it was

1148
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 8: a little and plus our song people every day, I

1149
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 8: said in a lyric and I in ice Cube, but

1150
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 8: I had to take the brother out for being rude

1151
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 8: and to read. One of our members said who and

1152
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 8: she knew who he was. But so that was that

1153
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 8: I think came off to ice Cube is like maybe

1154
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 8: a disc And so when when we when I met him,

1155
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 8: we were at one of the award shows and I

1156
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 8: met him and he didn't want to speak, so he

1157
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 8: just gave me.

1158
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 9: That that famous ice cube.

1159
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: Look up. It was all good and I seen the record.

1160
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 7: For people that don't understand what's.

1161
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 12: Interesting about that time was I was in California at

1162
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 12: my dad's school and arrested. Development was at the heights

1163
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 12: of it. And because of the type of messaging that

1164
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 12: was like the set, because it was we was listening

1165
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 12: to all the ice tea ice cube and my brother, who's.

1166
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 6: Years older than me, he was all into that.

1167
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 12: So it was kind of like refreshing to have hip

1168
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 12: hop that was also okay for nine year old me

1169
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 12: to be listening to.

1170
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 6: And we was listening to all of it. But then

1171
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 6: when MTV.

1172
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 12: Came out and videos, was like, okay, now we're finn

1173
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 12: to see what these groups look like. And you see

1174
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 12: the group and they're in the rural countries and they're

1175
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 12: driving to pick up I'm you know, we're going back

1176
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 12: and forth from l.

1177
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 9: A to Georgia.

1178
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 12: So in l A you got the snoops and the

1179
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 12: you know, the l A vibe, and then you got

1180
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 12: Atlanta and and you being.

1181
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 6: There you know what it's like, but you know the difference.

1182
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 6: But it was like, wow, I can relate to this.

1183
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: I see, that's what I want.

1184
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 6: That's because in all the other wrap, you gotta end

1185
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 6: up up uh. To our Crew, my brother loved to

1186
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 6: to our Crew.

1187
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 12: The album cover, we're growing up where you had to

1188
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 12: be yeah, and you have to be you know, more

1189
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 12: conscious of females, queendom and all that, and that's what

1190
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 12: this group represented.

1191
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: So my my dad, my stepdad was to tell you.

1192
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 12: It's like, Okay, yeah I saw and I was like,

1193
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 12: we can still be hip hop and not represent that.

1194
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: Women right now? Whoever is is that rhapsody?

1195
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we love big fan of rap that comes from

1196
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: from direct from this lenient.

1197
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 7: I mean, I think the best, in my opinion, the

1198
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 7: best place for hip hop is when there's balance.

1199
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: In hip hop. Which is that balance?

1200
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 9: Definitely?

1201
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, you point about having the the hip hop kind

1202
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 12: of coalition.

1203
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 11: It's like you can represent all of it and give

1204
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 11: it balance that you don't right now.

1205
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 6: It's so one sided. You only hear one see that.

1206
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 8: That's what I liked about those tours that Kwame was

1207
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 8: talking about, Like we were all touring with each other.

1208
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: You know, agredible to me, same tours.

1209
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, different region life and everybody

1210
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 8: represents exactly.

1211
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 12: I introducing every crowd a different thing. And so now

1212
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 12: if you weren't a fan of this or that when

1213
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 12: you got there, now you are.

1214
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah we did. That was in Alaska. Oh Ship white

1215
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: Clapp was on the bill. Okay, he's opening for us.

1216
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 5: Wow, you're shouting from the stage, arrested the unups contixt.

1217
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 2: Who's we wanted to be him. I can see it

1218
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 2: for them.

1219
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 5: It's like we model ourselves after arrested the untain.

1220
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: He's telling the audiences, so you can clearly see.

1221
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of years later, we can do a

1222
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: show with the Black Eyed Bes in Jerusalem. Wow, the

1223
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: last time of all back stage speech man, we wanted

1224
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: to be you guys when we started.

1225
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: We wanted model.

1226
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 9: The rest.

1227
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: I can see it, and not only that, you could

1228
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: see even like you know the Pharrals, you know what

1229
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, which which is for my solo career, which

1230
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: means that I might not exist without me and his

1231
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: commodity together. And so you can see, like I said,

1232
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: for lack of a better terms, we can see your sons.

1233
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1234
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 15: But not I'm not.

1235
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm not justing nobody.

1236
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: And but I think they'll agree with it too, because

1237
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,959
Speaker 1: like that was like that was one of the first

1238
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: feel good hip hop moments for me, Like watching the

1239
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: rest of the better, watching what you guys are doing.

1240
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: And then here's here's what I wanted to know as

1241
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: a personal question, one thing about me, Helen like super

1242
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: Doug what what what what? And then I come out

1243
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: with another record. Oh well, let's not super dumb, and

1244
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: then cool I come out with Grimy and well, let's

1245
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: not super don and I come up with home Boy,

1246
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: I Can't a Body finally, and they're like, all right,

1247
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: that's better than super dumb, but is it? And then

1248
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: I come up with the next record and that's not.

1249
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: I gotta keep doing. Like you guys have major hits?

1250
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: Were you guys like what is it of your own success?

1251
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean? Because like when you

1252
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: met a year, watched it.

1253
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,479
Speaker 1: Because you make Tennessee and then you know, you drop

1254
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: another record and they're like, well, it's not tennis.

1255
01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: It's like you can't be tennis.

1256
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 5: We're not trying.

1257
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 14: To do that.

1258
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: So like like like of course or lustrious career, but

1259
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: you guys got these these super major records.

1260
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: That does it haunt you? You know what I'm saying?

1261
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: It does for me because I got you ton't me so.

1262
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 8: Because it's haunted because you're wondering if if the fans

1263
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 8: ever let you get past that particular thing and really

1264
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 8: embrace this thing which you're excited about, like you're in

1265
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 8: this moment now, you know what I'm saying. So it's

1266
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 8: not like you don't appreciate that moment, but you're in

1267
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 8: this moment.

1268
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: They don't sometimes let us go to that moment exactly,

1269
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: I see you having to say. Or the other day

1270
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: he said, you know what, I realized your fans are

1271
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: like your parents.

1272
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: They don't want you to grow up sometimes. You know

1273
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You know that's what something to and

1274
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: think about it. If you think about it, that's.

1275
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: Their selfish needs because they don't want to grow up.

1276
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 2: They don't that time and.

1277
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: That you understand that time and that life was so perfect,

1278
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: and they're like, why are you growing?

1279
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 2: Why are you wear a suit? Now? Can you go

1280
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 2: back to the plea? I can't wear a suit one time,

1281
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: but you can put it on a tux.

1282
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 9: But I like what jay Z said.

1283
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 8: He said in one of his lyrics, basically like if

1284
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 8: you want to listen to that, go back to that stuff.

1285
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 9: But this is what I'm doing now, Like why did

1286
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 9: I go back? You know what I'm saying? Like it

1287
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 9: was Blue playing three, he was talking about that, Yeah,

1288
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 9: what we talk about. I think that was the song.

1289
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But you have been haunted by this definitely. Okay,

1290
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: not only through the record labels, but through the fans

1291
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: to the fans questions.

1292
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying.

1293
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 12: When you're doing the show and you start the show,

1294
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 12: start the show, and.

1295
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: Y'all got major, like y'all should have major major, Like

1296
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: with all love and respect to y'all, like y'all broke

1297
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: genres of music like like it was.

1298
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 16: It was.

1299
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: It's still a hip hop record, but it was played

1300
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: and it was like everywhere you went you heard this record,

1301
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like no matter where, it

1302
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: didn't matter what part you was at or whatever. So

1303
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: I know how hard that ship is and people come

1304
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: out like you know. I had one dude one time

1305
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: I was performing It's about me. He was like bloody money.

1306
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: I was like, the fuck man, like bloody money and

1307
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: no disrespect. So I couldn't tell you this disrespect.

1308
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: But it's like you got to shut up.

1309
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: But okay, so okay, flowers, man, listen. The show was

1310
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: about giving people they flowers appreciate.

1311
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: Man. I'm really like, man, you guys, what you did.

1312
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: Is legendary, but you continue to do is legendary. I

1313
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: love the fact that y'all still in the row.

1314
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: Other facts.

1315
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, they're gonna do sound check, right,

1316
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: now I said, damn, still, you told her like a wrestler.

1317
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 6: Let's do that like.

1318
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: Ste yes, yes, literal flowers.

1319
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, this is crazy, ridiculous, it's better than you know.

1320
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 2: It's not a graphic, but.

1321
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: Because what you did is really really legendarius, ground breaking.

1322
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 9: I mean, I need to give you all these because.

1323
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, don't take yeah, but write my car.

1324
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: This is gonna be.

1325
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: This is crazy what you did, and y'all continue to do.

1326
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: It's legendary.

1327
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: Man. We all owe you, you know, hip hop owes you.

1328
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: Or the fact that y'all.

1329
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: Stayed down, the fact that y'all stayed family. Yeah, that

1330
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: that is the first thing is.

1331
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: People people can't stay together two months.

1332
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: You've been together for decades. That's beautiful. And I'm not

1333
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: saying that to people to to just them. I'm saying

1334
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: that to people to here goes an example that you

1335
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: can you can actually do this.

1336
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: And here's a question I want to ask you.

1337
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: Right, you know, all the time the record labels would

1338
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: would always see that the guy artist, they call him

1339
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: the lead artists and call him the you know, the

1340
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: producer or whatever, and they always try to get him away, right,

1341
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: They always say, yo, you know what you can do

1342
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: the rest of development, But what do you think of

1343
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: about doing your own solo and doing your own and

1344
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: breaking off and you doing that?

1345
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 2: What made you not anticipate doing something like that?

1346
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 9: You know, It's funny because there was a lot of

1347
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 9: that going on, but on a micro level.

1348
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 8: So like at photo shoots, you would see the photographers say, hey, speech,

1349
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 8: come up to the front, come to the middle, do this,

1350
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 8: do that, headliner, you go back to the back, you know,

1351
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 8: like and.

1352
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 9: Those kind of things was happening all the time. I

1353
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 9: don't think the label ever told me to try to.

1354
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 8: Do a solo career. I did do a solo career,

1355
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 8: but it was after we took a break. We took

1356
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 8: a break from ninety five to two thousand. During that

1357
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 8: time period, I did start a solo career, but the

1358
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 8: label didn't push me to do that. So I would

1359
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 8: say that from a group perspective, I don't think they

1360
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 8: ever really the label ever really tried to make it like,

1361
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 8: you know, a speech thing or a headliner thing.

1362
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 10: I don't remember that, you know, Okay, yeah, I mean

1363
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 10: we had we definitely had our issues.

1364
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, definitely had issues.

1365
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 10: But I think what's so important is just getting together

1366
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 10: and talking things through speech. And I like a few

1367
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 10: months back, we had a beautiful conversation about the earlier

1368
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 10: years because I've known this man since I was thirteen

1369
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 10: years old. So it's like it's kind of those type

1370
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 10: of relationships regardless of what you go through, you're gonna

1371
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 10: make it. You're gonna make it and so and we've

1372
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 10: been able. Like now my role position, so to speak,

1373
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,919
Speaker 10: is I've been doing a lot of stuff behind the scene,

1374
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 10: producing with speech on.

1375
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 5: Videos and you give what I mean, and so and

1376
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 5: and rise.

1377
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 10: You know, we do like special shows because we're you know,

1378
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 10: two of the original members, so we have special shows

1379
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 10: with a group and I just am so grateful for

1380
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 10: these people here that are continued in the legacy and

1381
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 10: keep us right. So I mean, it's just at the

1382
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 10: end of the day, it's so important to just come

1383
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 10: together and heal. And I think we had a lot

1384
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 10: of time to heal over the years. You know, speech,

1385
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 10: you know, I know, he if you're okay, I know

1386
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 10: I notice been publics, but he was sick and sometimes

1387
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 10: you know, I've been I'm a breast cancer survivor, have

1388
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 10: been through different things and when.

1389
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 5: You when you face things like that in life.

1390
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 10: You like, you know what, my little tiff with him

1391
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 10: or her, it really ain't that important. What's important that

1392
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 10: you know, we we can feel good about being in

1393
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 10: each other's space and really loving each other for really,

1394
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 10: you know, like genuinely really loving each other and caring.

1395
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: Because the one thing that seems like your group has

1396
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: expanded absolutely as opposed that, like most people like they

1397
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: get trapped in this industry and they say, you know what,

1398
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: I got to.

1399
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 2: Split the pot four ways, yea. And the fact is, like, that's.

1400
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: Why I broke up to a freaking family thing is

1401
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: because I feel like it's I feel like to y'all

1402
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: outside of looking at the inside of looking out, I

1403
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: feel like family is more deeply rooted into y'all.

1404
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 8: Really important with us. It's a big deal with us. Vibrations,

1405
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 8: that energy, like all of that stuff. We talk about

1406
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 8: a lot in this crew, and it's a very big

1407
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 8: deal for how we run things. We run things very

1408
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 8: different than a lot of other people do, but it

1409
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 8: works for us.

1410
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 5: Seeing everybody's growth has been.

1411
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 10: So beautiful, beautiful because we listen, we's like.

1412
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 11: Would to that point.

1413
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 12: One of the things that I loved about being in

1414
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 12: this in this group is that if you've ever been

1415
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 12: in the band, you're a part of the band. Everybody

1416
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 12: from from early days, so if you've done a couple

1417
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 12: of shows, you're part of you're a part of the band.

1418
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 11: And when I came after.

1419
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 12: She speech never was like, Okay, she did this, so

1420
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 12: you gotta do this is what she did, so you

1421
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 12: got to do exactly what she did. He's the everybody's

1422
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 12: unique thing that you bring to the band is the band.

1423
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 11: That's the band, not one particular vibe.

1424
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 12: It's like we we all bring the energy, like there's

1425
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 12: a foundational energy that's that needs to be there that

1426
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 12: anybody that has been in the in the band embodied

1427
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 12: that energy.

1428
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: Now there's a lot of women that's rocking ball has now.

1429
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: She was like the originator.

1430
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 5: And you know what, Dion rocked one too, and yeah,

1431
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 5: I love.

1432
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: Like back then it was looked at like an Apple Central.

1433
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 5: South too.

1434
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 2: I got oh wow, I did you know.

1435
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 5: A lot of men will say why did you cut

1436
01:10:59,520 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 5: your hair?

1437
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 10: That's your glory and but I just felt comfortable like

1438
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 10: that headline used to cut my hair.

1439
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: Okay, headline, okay, headliners.

1440
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I would be walking around. Yeah, bald head.

1441
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 10: I mean I just recently started warning back now, but yeah,

1442
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 10: I loved it. It was such a freedom in it.

1443
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 10: And even now when like when I went through my breast,

1444
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 10: hands out shape, you know, shave it off started all over.

1445
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I still do it. Okay, okay, okay, because

1446
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: you're knowing for that one.

1447
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 5: The blind and short blind.

1448
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do a quick time I think. Okay, you

1449
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:45,759
Speaker 2: got your said it all right. This is our drinking

1450
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 2: game that we're gonna play. Obviously, you don't whenever you're drinking.

1451
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 4: Michael B.

1452
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 5: Jordan's drinking.

1453
01:11:53,560 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, I got socky. That's different. I don't

1454
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 2: know what soot.

1455
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 7: We're going to give you, guys two choices, and you

1456
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 7: pick one and we don't drink. But if you say

1457
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,560
Speaker 7: both are neither, so basically you don't really want to

1458
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 7: answer the question, then we all drink.

1459
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 16: Some of us say one.

1460
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 7: I mean, this is disorganized anyway, But the real, the

1461
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 7: real point of this is not to peck people against

1462
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 7: each other the question. It's really to bring up any

1463
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 7: any stories you might have with that's really it's really

1464
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 7: to bring up names because we want to talk.

1465
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 2: About, you know, positively about people. Thank you, ad appreciate

1466
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: it all right? Public enemy or n w A who

1467
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: you pointing at? We're gonna start with.

1468
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 9: Public enemy, public enemy.

1469
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, tribe called quests or brand new.

1470
01:12:55,240 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 7: View quiz quests big l or Biggie.

1471
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: Big big, big girl. Okay, I think you might have

1472
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 2: to drink just because.

1473
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: I caught that let's do it was beef Okay, rock him? Okay,

1474
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:30,799
Speaker 1: rest one, that's that was both, but that we gotta drink.

1475
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 2: Cheers. I like drinking out cast ghetto boys.

1476
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 6: I don't even know who else you said.

1477
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I.

1478
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 7: Don't remember any stories, but anybody we mentioned, if you've

1479
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 7: got a story that pops off means telling us obviously outcasts,

1480
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 7: you know that's.

1481
01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 5: From them, absolutely form one that they got their name

1482
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 5: from the the dreads.

1483
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 9: Because I say outcast, I don't know. I'm not saying

1484
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 9: they did, but I don't.

1485
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 2: Know if they did or not.

1486
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 5: I danced in their Rose Parks video.

1487
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 10: Video.

1488
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out how can Yeah?

1489
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 9: Our cast is major?

1490
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,879
Speaker 8: I mean and and to me, to me, they always

1491
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 8: anything that they might have been inspired by by what

1492
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 8: we did. They took it so much further and that

1493
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 8: always just blows my mind, like how far they took it.

1494
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 12: As much as we love our cast, I do know

1495
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 12: all words of my my mind playing trees.

1496
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, planets. I just wanted to say, I just

1497
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: wanted to say something back to you. Just you know,

1498
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: my mind's playing tricks on me. I'm a grown ass man.

1499
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: I still get kind of scared when I still.

1500
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, I smoked out with.

1501
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: Wild Man. Yeah, he's a different one.

1502
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 8: I used to promote shows. So I used to do

1503
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 8: concerts and I brought outcasts. I brought there's somebody else,

1504
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 8: goodie mob outcasts, Fujis brought Fuji So like for me,

1505
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 8: like where were these shows at in Atlanta? I used

1506
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,799
Speaker 8: to promote huge shows, well huge rap shows in Atlanta,

1507
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 8: and so yeah, I brought all of them to the shows.

1508
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,839
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I'm assuming early on, right in their careers, early.

1509
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 9: On, h early on, but what they was already, they

1510
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 9: was already huge, you know, like doing their things. You

1511
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. But there's it was. It was great.

1512
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 9: It was great.

1513
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, far Side or Souls a Mischief, which.

1514
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 8: We too with them, just we literally just got off

1515
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 8: the road with them, and and I think They have

1516
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 8: a tour right now for Sight and Soul of mischie

1517
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,759
Speaker 8: shows right now, which is yeah, yeah, we would love.

1518
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 9: To do shows with Souls and.

1519
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,759
Speaker 12: Shout out to the far Sight. I went to school

1520
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 12: with the Flips, shout out the six Way.

1521
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, heavy D or your rock.

1522
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 2: Heavy heavy D.

1523
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 9: I was.

1524
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 6: Heavy dance.

1525
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 9: Recipe. It's amazing.

1526
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 2: I love this question right here, X clan or parts teachers.

1527
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 12: Me.

1528
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 9: I'm gonna say X clan, But I like righteous teachers.

1529
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 9: I love both of them.

1530
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 2: But plan came teachers right so very close.

1531
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 9: Actually, yeah, you're drinking.

1532
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 2: All right. Main source of third Base m for me,

1533
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 2: It's gonna be main source for me. It's third Base.

1534
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1535
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 2: I like that.

1536
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 9: Main source.

1537
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:09,959
Speaker 6: Main source from popcorn.

1538
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, we got popcorn from third Base from I'm gonna

1539
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 9: interesting story.

1540
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 8: We did a show with Third Base arrested Development and Naughty,

1541
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 8: and I was backstage with Trench Search and speech and

1542
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 8: I didn't know all my career people come up to

1543
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 8: me and say yo trash or yo search, but I

1544
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 8: didn't know what was happening to them too. He took

1545
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 8: a special picture just exactly.

1546
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 9: All of us have been mistaken all the time by

1547
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 9: people saying speech you know, yeah, it's hilarious.

1548
01:17:58,160 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, run DMC or Beastie Boys.

1549
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 9: That's a really good one. But I have to say

1550
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 9: Brandy would.

1551
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 2: Say Indian like they would say.

1552
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 9: Least these were incredible to.

1553
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 12: Sleep to, revolution, crazy and incredible for everybody black m.

1554
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:32,839
Speaker 2: J or Michael Jackson. I mean, Prince, we know what gonna.

1555
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 11: Say, but I'm saying Michael Jackson.

1556
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson.

1557
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: Says Princes from the Lake of Miltitoba.

1558
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 8: But I mean, to me, it's just all the instruments

1559
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 8: the brother played all he was crazy with it. He's

1560
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 8: you know, he's not just an amazing and entertainer, which

1561
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 8: he was, but he was also just this multi instrumentalist, songwriter, producer.

1562
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 9: I mean, I mean, come on, you know.

1563
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 2: Story got a million? Which one do you think about this?

1564
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 5: I was thinking of the one when he invited us

1565
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 5: to the club.

1566
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 9: Tell me that story, cause I forget about.

1567
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 2: The loss thing happened.

1568
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, okay, so yeah, so okay, now I know

1569
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 8: what you're talking about. So Prince, I'm a uge fan

1570
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 8: of Prince. I sampled Tennessee his word from Alphabet Street.

1571
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 8: He says, I want to take it to my back

1572
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 8: seat and drive a to Tennessee, and I grabbed that

1573
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 8: Tennessee for Tennessee.

1574
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 9: And sample it throughout the song, and the song went.

1575
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 8: To it was going up the charts and went to

1576
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 8: number one on the rap charts, number one on the

1577
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 8: R and B charts, and then it went to number six,

1578
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 8: I want to say, on the pop charts or whatever

1579
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 8: they call it, the hot one hundred. And the day

1580
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 8: it went down to number seven, our office got a

1581
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 8: call from Prince saying he wanted some money for that,

1582
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 8: that that word Tennessee, and so we had to pay

1583
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 8: him a hundred thousand dollars, which was.

1584
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 9: Then exact back then.

1585
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 8: And the truth is he gave he did us a

1586
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 8: favorite because that could have been he could have told

1587
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 8: us to take it off the shelf like this, He

1588
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 8: got his.

1589
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: Whole record taken off the record. Yeah, the whole record.

1590
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 9: He could have asked for any percentage he wanted for that.

1591
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: Because y'all have already did it without person.

1592
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:32,879
Speaker 2: Already exactly exactly.

1593
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 9: And so what instead what he did is just ask

1594
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 9: for cash. He got one hundred thousand dollars right off

1595
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 9: the rit for that.

1596
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 5: He was showing up at all. That shows he was,

1597
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 5: and we did shows.

1598
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 8: At his club too, and he was up there we

1599
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 8: uh got man got mad and us Yeah.

1600
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 17: At glam Slam in the middle that my record mother

1601
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 17: here showing up with high hells like that.

1602
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, cool, he got hurble, he

1603
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 2: wants some crazy.

1604
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: One of my favorite champs ever is I said with

1605
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: Nas And I asked Nas, I said, I don't feel

1606
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 1: like no one ever told Nas no?

1607
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: And he goes, yeah, someone told me no, And I go,

1608
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 2: who you go, Prince?

1609
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and then he goes, uh, Prince asked me,

1610
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:37,919
Speaker 1: did I own my masters?

1611
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 2: I heard, and I said no, I don't owe my masters.

1612
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: And he said, well, come see me when you owe

1613
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: my masters, and when you're on your master, your master's

1614
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: And you wouldn't think that's like a harsh sting saying

1615
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: to a younger artist coming up in the game, but

1616
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: it's probably the exact statement that you need to hear.

1617
01:21:56,360 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you went forward in this game. Maybe maybe it

1618
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: was like that Mike Tyson.

1619
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: You ever see Mike Tyson with a little girl said

1620
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: where's your legacy? And Mike Tyson like legacy. Maybe it

1621
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: was that moment for Nas with Rents. But maybe moving forward.

1622
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: NAS needed to hear that, you understand I'm saying, And

1623
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: we don't know that with Mike Tyson. I don't know

1624
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: if y'all seen this for this, but was the moment

1625
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: she did need to hear too. I just I'm sorry,

1626
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: but that's crazy. So when you hear Prince he was

1627
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: so advanced in this game. You see about the slave tattoo,

1628
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 1: and you realize that years later, I had to buy

1629
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 1: my own name back, and I'm.

1630
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,600
Speaker 2: Like, when he changed his name to the sign to

1631
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 2: I didn't know that then. I didn't know that. Yeah,

1632
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: he was. He was definitely fighting that fight.

1633
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, And to be honest, he might have been the

1634
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 8: first in our generation, like in our general generation, to

1635
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 8: fight that fight on such a public platform, you know

1636
01:22:59,439 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 8: what I mean.

1637
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: Like and say against the machine, against the machine that's

1638
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 1: showing us exactly right.

1639
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 2: But see that was a whole nother you know, because

1640
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 2: Sam Cook did it as well. And you are right then, yes,

1641
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: all right? What was on that? Yeah? All right? I

1642
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 2: argue that ship right, all right? A ball m J

1643
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: G or Goodie mob. I gotta say goodie mom.

1644
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 9: I gotta say goodie mob.

1645
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: You know from the South with good.

1646
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 11: When I tell you, I can pick my friends by

1647
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 11: how much they know about a ball.

1648
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: M you like, do you know this song?

1649
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 6: Do you know nine millimeters?

1650
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 2: Boys?

1651
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 14: Right?

1652
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 6: Goodie mob?

1653
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 2: Though, all right, black Star, dead Press, that's.

1654
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 9: I'm gonna have to say both for me. I can't.

1655
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 2: I can't.

1656
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 9: I can't. I can't say one or the other.

1657
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 2: I just can't do it. Wow. Yes, And by the way,

1658
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 2: dead Press, whatever, y'all we missed y'all. Man, everyone's in Africa.

1659
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 2: I think he moved to Africa. I want to go

1660
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 2: to Africa.

1661
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, shut and man, they're great for you, man, Florida.

1662
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 2: That okay, that's don't know they weren't there.

1663
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1664
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 8: See, to me, both of them made such an impact

1665
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 8: and a totally you know, in the same way.

1666
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 9: But just I can't.

1667
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 8: I can't.

1668
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 9: For me, I can't choose either one as more important

1669
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 9: to me, Like Black Star.

1670
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: Because you know that Kanye made that beak that Yeah,

1671
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: Alchemist told us that we searched it, we researched it,

1672
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:56,600
Speaker 1: we researched it.

1673
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of yeah, it's kind of like up

1674
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 2: in the air.

1675
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 9: Baseline.

1676
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask I'm going to text that more baseline. Yeah, say,

1677
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, yeah what sorry, was he signed to

1678
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 2: produce already? I don't I don't remember. I don't remember,

1679
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 2: but I know that he had something to do with

1680
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: that production for sure. That but that's crazy. I't never

1681
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 2: heard of that. That's yeah.

1682
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 15: Lord, well, well he was a part of that, like

1683
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 15: dead press, like that's right, that h like I think

1684
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 15: helping them get the deal and yeah, like a whole

1685
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 15: I did not know that brand new and helped a

1686
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 15: lot of folks.

1687
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, yeah, we had Lord mar I guess I

1688
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 2: don't have to ask the questions.

1689
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: What were saying about Lord Moore said, we had Lord

1690
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: of Wall and it's his doc right, want we want

1691
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: the whole brand New being together, and we would need.

1692
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 2: Your Grandpool, but we haven't had Grandpooper yet. Man.

1693
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 8: I actually like Grandpoopa's album. He just dropped it out.

1694
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:12,799
Speaker 8: He dropped it out either late last.

1695
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 2: Year or early this year.

1696
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 9: I forget because it's you know, it's been nine or

1697
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 9: ten months. But yeah, it was dope.

1698
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:17,600
Speaker 8: I like it.

1699
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 9: I liked the shot Grandpool He's dope.

1700
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what's the next one. Let's see what we are?

1701
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 2: Ice Cuba comment or common cute. Ice C's tough.

1702
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 9: For me, I'm gonna have to say.

1703
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1704
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 9: It was really Yeah, yeah they did.

1705
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: But I got to say both for them because they

1706
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: did barbershop together.

1707
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they came, they came together.

1708
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 9: I didn't even know that.

1709
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that.

1710
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 11: That comment was such a cool guy.

1711
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 6: He's such a good spirit. He's a very kind I

1712
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 6: mean to.

1713
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 8: Me, those early ice Cube days, like his first number

1714
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 8: of solo bes that just from CERTI I could never

1715
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 8: put anything above that easily, Like, yeah, of course common

1716
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 8: is just He's ridiculous.

1717
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:10,839
Speaker 9: I mean, I love that brother.

1718
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 2: All right. E p m D. Or Pete Rock and

1719
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:15,719
Speaker 2: Steal Smooth.

1720
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:18,560
Speaker 9: For me, I'm gonna say E p m D.

1721
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 2: Although I love.

1722
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna go.

1723
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying or Pete Smooth. We say both of

1724
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 2: them both official group. You're right, I mean would say

1725
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 2: p m D because came before.

1726
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, definitely, man, that stuff their albums is just major.

1727
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 9: And we just did a show with them too.

1728
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 2: Y E p m D. You do shows with everybody.

1729
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 2: Let's make some.

1730
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 5: Your favorite.

1731
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 2: I love that, I love that. I love It's a

1732
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: tough one. They lost so Jungle Brothers. That is tough.

1733
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 9: Wow, you're gonna have to say Daylight. I'm gonna have

1734
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 9: to say that.

1735
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 8: But it was tough one because to me, Jungle Brothers

1736
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 8: brought Daylight, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so that's

1737
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 8: but Daylight to me, the catalog is just so you know, expansive.

1738
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,719
Speaker 9: I mean, just think they brought to your table.

1739
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 10: I mean your last year you did was it the

1740
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 10: the Love the Hollywood Bowl and they were there.

1741
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 5: It was just the energy was so amazing.

1742
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 2: Fact, there's so many people on this boy.

1743
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1744
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 11: I just remember before when we were in Africa.

1745
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, before we went.

1746
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 6: With Daylight.

1747
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 9: Oh, it was just such a South Africa too. In

1748
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 9: South Africa.

1749
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: Question, yeah, yeah, in South Africa it has black people,

1750
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: right because I always debate with him.

1751
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 9: Yeah ninety seven percent.

1752
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I told you, I know, I know, baby

1753
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 2: playing around.

1754
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, in South Africa. So we did the first

1755
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,520
Speaker 5: time I went to South Africa was in nineteen.

1756
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 9: Ninety four and with Nelson Madella we did. We spoke

1757
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 9: with him and I spoke right before him.

1758
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 10: It was amazing. That was like it was amazing. And

1759
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 10: then we shot one of our videos and not in front.

1760
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 10: Antoine was our Yeah, the director that did on training day. Yeah,

1761
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 10: he did our video.

1762
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, a song called United Front.

1763
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 9: Yep, you're not in Front.

1764
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 1: I did it in South ain't get a gang in

1765
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 1: South Africa to United Front, know what?

1766
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 2: Not in Front?

1767
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 6: I saw with the two kids walking down the dirt road.

1768
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 9: That was album cover. That was in South Africa.

1769
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 11: That was That's what I remember. I think that was

1770
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 11: Headliner was saying.

1771
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 7: That was.

1772
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 6: That was an amazing little moment.

1773
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:28,839
Speaker 2: You gotta got Lauren Hill or Queen Latifa? Are you serious?

1774
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:30,759
Speaker 11: Queen and Tifa help my baby?

1775
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1776
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 2: She she just came to say both for me.

1777
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 9: I can't say one of the other.

1778
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 2: One time when I saw her.

1779
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 10: Tifa as a young woman coming up and you know,

1780
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 10: before I got into rested, I would look up to

1781
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 10: her and I had all the crowns like the cat

1782
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 10: she used to wear the crown and I was like,

1783
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 10: I like this woman because to me she represented a

1784
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 10: cur hervy black woman and I can relate.

1785
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 2: And she said you why, oh my?

1786
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 5: She was just powerful, just everything about her just powerful.

1787
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 2: Damn covered up and.

1788
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 5: Were yes uns.

1789
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 2: Show trying to.

1790
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 9: Get her on the show. Yeah, Queena tifas she's but

1791
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:32,799
Speaker 9: of course Lauren.

1792
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 2: Hill is absolutely We're not taking that away, not at all.

1793
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 10: And when shout la on her, Lauren Hill, let's talk

1794
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 10: about that mis education.

1795
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 11: Is a very kind spirit. She she is such a

1796
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 11: sweet person.

1797
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 2: She's Yeah, we we tour with her many times, an

1798
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 2: incredible career. And Lauren, I mean, like.

1799
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 8: I said, I brought Lauren Well, I brought the Fujis

1800
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 8: to Atlanta. They opened for us in Europe to I

1801
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 8: don't know if you remember that opened the front a

1802
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 8: lot of times.

1803
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 9: So we've known that for years.

1804
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Black Thought or Andre three thousands, no, no, you

1805
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 2: t t top of I gotta go both. Definitely both.

1806
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I have to say both.

1807
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 12: I have to say because they're they're two different there

1808
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 12: are dope, two different reasons. And we just we toured

1809
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 12: with Black Thought and the Roots and so yeah, they're awesome.

1810
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 2: Rod Digger, Lady of Rage, Oh my god, lay.

1811
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:50,719
Speaker 9: Yeah I love Eire Yeah yeah, yeah.

1812
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:55,799
Speaker 2: Rhap City or Lady London, Rhapsody. I'm gonna say Hapsody.

1813
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:57,799
Speaker 2: We just did a show with Rhapsody too, So yeah.

1814
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 6: We we got another beautiful the last one to get

1815
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 6: back to the interview.

1816
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 2: Loyal to your respect, loyal respect, respect all the long.

1817
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll say they almost mean the same thing.

1818
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 2: That they mean the same thing.

1819
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 11: But if you don't have respect, what good is your loyalty?

1820
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 9: Come on?

1821
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 2: That was deep, but.

1822
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 6: Repect exactly?

1823
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 2: It comes one.

1824
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 11: You can't have one when I respect.

1825
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 6: But are you loyal though, because you're.

1826
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,560
Speaker 12: Just inside the crew, you might be part of a

1827
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 12: sabotage you if I don't have If you don't respect,

1828
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 12: you gotta respect.

1829
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:37,719
Speaker 2: Respect.

1830
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 5: Go ahead.

1831
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 6: I don't think I could be loyal to someone I

1832
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:41,759
Speaker 6: didn't respect.

1833
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 9: There you go, there you go.

1834
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 2: That does make sense that.

1835
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 5: We didn't answer the question respect.

1836
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:50,879
Speaker 11: I'm saying respect first and foremost.

1837
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:53,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just drink because.

1838
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 1: The time that me and him we say that, this

1839
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 1: is the one time that we should say both. I

1840
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 1: do believe that loyalty and respect those That's that's.

1841
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 2: Why if you if you have to get both, give me.

1842
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 11: If you want you better be you're gonna be loyal

1843
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 11: because of your.

1844
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 2: Believe I believe that. I believe that.

1845
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 1: Is there anything that if you had and now with

1846
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 1: the conclusive quick time was fine?

1847
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 2: Good?

1848
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,600
Speaker 1: But is it anything that if you guys had a

1849
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: chance to do over, you would do over? The like

1850
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 1: basically I'm asking, is it anything you regret this beautiful,

1851
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 1: illustrious career that you guys are.

1852
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1853
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 9: I mean there's a few things I mentioned a couple.

1854
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 9: One is I wish.

1855
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 8: If I knew better in the early days, I would

1856
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 8: have figured out a way to make sure that every

1857
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 8: body in the group felt appreciated thoroughly by me. So

1858
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 8: I'm just speaking for me right now. And then the

1859
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 8: other thing I wish I would have known and done

1860
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 8: differently is when we finished our first album put it out.

1861
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 2: We sold four million albums, five million albums.

1862
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 8: The label was really rushing us to put out new material,

1863
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 8: and I wish I would have just waited and just

1864
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 8: took a little bit more time, took as much time

1865
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 8: as we needed, because I do feel like it just

1866
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 8: would have gave us a chance to check out the

1867
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 8: landscape of what was happening, you know, because Wu Tang

1868
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 8: was coming out, there was a whole different energy dropped

1869
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 8: all exactly, so it's like just seeing, Okay, this is

1870
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 8: what's happening. Okay, now, this is what we can contribute,

1871
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. I think that that would

1872
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 8: have been a good play for us. So that's for

1873
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:01,799
Speaker 8: me that's what I'm saying here anywhere else.

1874
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 5: Nope out Like I shouldn't say regrets or anything, but I.

1875
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 2: Okay.

1876
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 16: I feel like artists need the opportunity to experiment, Like

1877
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 16: we need the permission to suck, Like, make some stuff,

1878
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 16: let it be as wack as possible, because you're letting

1879
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 16: your creativity go as far as you can let it go,

1880
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:27,600
Speaker 16: and then you kind of reel it back in it,

1881
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 16: you know what I mean. But sometimes artists, I think

1882
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 16: we feel like once the first album is dope, the

1883
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 16: next album everything has to be dope after that, and

1884
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 16: if it's not dope, then you fell off. And it's

1885
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 16: like your creativity doesn't get this chance to be able

1886
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 16: to grow. And growth isn't It is not comfortable, it's

1887
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 16: not pretty, and it's not always like you won't always

1888
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 16: be on top every single time.

1889
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 9: It's not always linear too, you know what I'm saying.

1890
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 9: Sometimes it's like that, you know what I mean.

1891
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 16: So giving artists to the opportunity to put some stuff

1892
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 16: out that's different and give it a chance, like we

1893
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 16: open to just here something different.

1894
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,599
Speaker 7: That'd be the difference between industry and culture, industry and art.

1895
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:10,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, and that that means what andre three thousand and

1896
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 8: outcasts to do a lot of different stuff for that

1897
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 8: period of time, and it was dope, you know.

1898
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 5: I think for me, I was all passion and I

1899
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 5: didn't know much about the business.

1900
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 10: So I was very green when I came in because

1901
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 10: I was so young, and then we didn't have the internet.

1902
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 7: You know.

1903
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 5: My mom, uh was an avid reader, So that's how

1904
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 5: I learned a.

1905
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 10: Lot about the industry actually through my mom just reading

1906
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 10: books and about the industry.

1907
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:43,879
Speaker 5: But I was just all passion, all passion and no business.

1908
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,640
Speaker 10: And so I think if I had to do it

1909
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 10: all over again, I would learned a lot more about

1910
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 10: the business. But back then someone literally had to take

1911
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 10: your hand and say just follow me, you know what

1912
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,640
Speaker 10: I'm saying. It was just a different world back then,

1913
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 10: and I just I wanted to learn more from a

1914
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 10: business perspective because once we got out, the group.

1915
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 5: Came out, and just how everything moved so fast, and

1916
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 5: just how I was.

1917
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 10: In an adult world as a teenager, you know what

1918
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 10: I mean, And just how they were everything was more

1919
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 10: business than it.

1920
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 5: Was creative, you get what I'm saying.

1921
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 10: And then we spent more a lot of times being creative,

1922
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 10: you know, and parsing and stuff like that. So I

1923
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:29,400
Speaker 10: didn't know about like copyrights and you know, writing, publishing,

1924
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 10: none of that stuff. So you know, learning through trial

1925
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 10: and narrow and then like latter years when we came

1926
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 10: back together and got to do records, we wrote.

1927
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 5: We wrote a lot of stuff on the.

1928
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,759
Speaker 10: That was a third album, Your Hair's of the Harvest,

1929
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 10: So that was like our third album, and that was

1930
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 10: super fun. And you know a lot of growth had

1931
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 10: taken place through those years. Throughout those years, so you know,

1932
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 10: just just being in the industry, you know, not knowing

1933
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 10: how it really worked, you know.

1934
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:02,599
Speaker 5: But honestly, I don't think we I mean speech, none

1935
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 5: of it.

1936
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 2: None of them.

1937
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looking like yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do my

1938
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 1: own ship that you would do.

1939
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 2: I didn't know nothing.

1940
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, That's why I tell a lot of young artists

1941
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 10: now when I do have a chance to talk to them,

1942
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 10: like learn as much as you can, you know, And

1943
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 10: relationships are so important. You know, a lot of people

1944
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 10: don't build relationships now like we used to back in

1945
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:30,719
Speaker 10: the day because.

1946
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 5: We didn't have the internet. You had to get out

1947
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 5: and talk to people. I don't think we do that

1948
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 5: as much anymore.

1949
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something that if I could comment on what

1950
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:41,679
Speaker 1: you just said his what's crazy about the new artists,

1951
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 1: They definitely don't need a label at all.

1952
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 2: True, Yes, like they don't need what we needed.

1953
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, we needed a top forty record. We needed

1954
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 1: a record to go and travel right now, God bless me.

1955
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 1: NBA Young Boy is all over. He is selling out

1956
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 1: arena right now, and I don't know anybody in their

1957
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 1: thirties that could even quote a record.

1958
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:08,600
Speaker 2: Now.

1959
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 1: What I'm saying about that, I'm not dissing him. I'm

1960
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 1: giving him light. What I'm saying is that people under

1961
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 1: thirty could be the people that's that's that's doing it,

1962
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 1: that's quoting his records. What I'm saying is that's an

1963
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 1: example to us. It's an example to people that came

1964
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:26,680
Speaker 1: before us, example people that came that's coming after us.

1965
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 1: Is that look, we don't even need these people if

1966
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: really apply the pressure to ourselves and say, look, let's

1967
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: it's a direct to consumer market right now, let's just

1968
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 1: talk to them direct and NBA Young Boy, I don't

1969
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 1: know who's behind you. I see bird Man sometimes behind you,

1970
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 1: I see whatever. NBA Young Boy, you're a great example

1971
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 1: of that. I see you selling out Arenas, I see

1972
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 1: you doing this shit, and I see you it's like

1973
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: what your.

1974
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 2: Fans that is? That shit is something to that school.

1975
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,600
Speaker 2: What we strive to do is like you know what.

1976
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 2: That's the beautiful thing about this part podcast.

1977
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 1: Is I remember like going on tour and they sending

1978
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 1: me to places that it didn't matter to my career.

1979
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 2: I had to pay for it anyway. Right, So let's

1980
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:16,679
Speaker 2: I had to go to which is all Kansas?

1981
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 1: Right?

1982
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, give me an example. I'm not saying that.

1983
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 1: I mean I go to which of God to Kansas

1984
01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:25,520
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's three people at my instos.

1985
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's three people.

1986
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 1: But I was right next door in Cleveland killing them.

1987
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 2: I was right on the block. And they didn't have

1988
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:38,640
Speaker 2: the algorithms back then exactly. Now we actually have the algorithms.

1989
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 1: Where you can actually see and say, oh, listen, we're

1990
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:45,719
Speaker 1: not going to do a forty city tour with Drink Canser.

1991
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 2: We'll do a twenty eight city tour. All of these

1992
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 2: twenty eight cities is going to matter.

1993
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 1: It's the market still writing Marcus our mars Yes, and

1994
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 1: you young brothers. That's out there. You got the algorithms.

1995
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 1: You have a advantage that we didn't have. Better take

1996
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 1: full advantage, and please continue to take full advantage, because

1997
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 1: this is like I love Leo Cohen, right, I don't

1998
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 1: care whoever feels about Leo. Come, that's who y'all feel.

1999
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 1: Your relationship with Leo Cohen told me this is one

2000
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 1: of the best times to get in the industry. And

2001
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 1: you say why, Okay, well, you don't got to press

2002
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 1: up an album. If you're producing your own album. You

2003
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 1: have a relationship with a person that's producing your own album,

2004
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 1: y'all can make a deal and you can say, you listen,

2005
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 1: let me do this, this and that, and then you

2006
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 1: can really own everything, get algorithms from the photography, everything,

2007
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 1: and it's not as expensive.

2008
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 2: Remember your album packaging was.

2009
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 1: One hundred and seventy thousand, when you can include it

2010
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 1: who you travel to your stylist and you know all

2011
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 1: that you spending money that you didn't even really understand.

2012
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 1: But now it's like I can look at everything and

2013
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 1: I can control it. So I want elder artists, uh,

2014
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, younger artists, don't. Don't be confused about these algorithms.

2015
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,920
Speaker 1: Understand these algorithms and said, you know what, continue to

2016
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 1: promote to your own fed.

2017
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 7: I agree, but I want to ask them in to

2018
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 7: that because one thing we got to be careful with

2019
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 7: is as independent as we feel in this tech age.

2020
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 2: These platforms are the new record labels and they can

2021
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 2: platform you.

2022
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 9: So make discussion.

2023
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 7: Should also understand that I don't think you're totally I'm

2024
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 7: this indie artist, like diversify these platforms that you're on,

2025
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 7: try to find the most independent ones your audience.

2026
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 2: And have a grassroots part of your campaign as well. Agree,

2027
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 2: there's a.

2028
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 9: New platform called Coda that I think is dope.

2029
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying that, and I want to just

2030
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 2: add I think that what.

2031
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 5: Needs to happen or continue to happen, I know I

2032
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 5: actively do it.

2033
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 10: I know other people to actively do each and different people,

2034
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 10: but a lot of older artists, we got to embrace

2035
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 10: these younger artists and bring them up. And then the

2036
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 10: younger artists also, Like I spend a lot of time

2037
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,760
Speaker 10: with younger artists and they teach me a lot of

2038
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 10: stuff I did not know about the Internet, and they're

2039
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 10: like this easy, you can do this, Miss.

2040
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 5: Easy, you can do that.

2041
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 10: And so I'm learning too, and I think it's you know,

2042
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 10: we got to take the old and the new and

2043
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:23,719
Speaker 10: bring it together because that's what's gonna make us greater,

2044
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. And because I think a

2045
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 10: lot of the ways, like our work ethic and how

2046
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 10: we came up everything, literally we want a carbon copy

2047
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 10: like that was considered whack if it was like somebody else.

2048
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 10: Just the individuality we have back then. I think we

2049
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:40,679
Speaker 10: still need to embrace that, you know what I'm saying,

2050
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 10: But also understand this tech world because AI is here

2051
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 10: and it's here to stay. You gotta, you know, we

2052
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 10: gotta embrace stuff that's coming, you.

2053
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

2054
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:53,600
Speaker 5: So cautious absolutely, but it's coming. It's coming, you know

2055
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 5: what I mean.

2056
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 9: I understand, Yeah, I mean, you know what I'm.

2057
01:44:58,840 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 5: Saying, It's coming.

2058
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:03,080
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that I really would love to

2059
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 1: improve on this bridge in the gap. And what I

2060
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:10,640
Speaker 1: say about bridging the gap is, you know, sometimes I

2061
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 1: listen to these young brothers and I don't mean to

2062
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 1: sound like the old dude, but fucking let me just

2063
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 1: sound like the old dude for now.

2064
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

2065
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 1: They'll be like, yo, man, you know, I got the

2066
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 1: Jordan's on and I got on Patrick Ewings or they'll do.

2067
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 1: And you know the sneakers that you're wearing when it

2068
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,559
Speaker 1: comes to basketball, you know the throwback jersey that you're

2069
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 1: wearing when it comes to basketball. But here you are

2070
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 1: making money off of hip hop and you don't know

2071
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:41,480
Speaker 1: who fucking Biggie Smalls is exactly right that it is disappointing.

2072
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to be the old homie that

2073
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 1: critique you, but I also have to be the old homie.

2074
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 1: They'll be like, yo, you're not right when you come

2075
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 1: on the block. Got to tie your shoelaces, you got

2076
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 1: to pick up your you're.

2077
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 2: Suspended this homie, you got to do that.

2078
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: Like, I have to be that person because it's like, damn,

2079
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,600
Speaker 1: we're all being the fitting off for this. And you

2080
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 1: could tell me that Jordan One needs fucking right. It's

2081
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 1: that eighty seven. You could tell me that, But you

2082
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 1: can't tell me Biz Markey's record is you.

2083
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 2: You got.

2084
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 5: In the world.

2085
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 2: Of the girl. You want to take your platonic to wherever.

2086
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 2: You can't tell me you're not going to sing bis marks.

2087
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah on, bro, But you know what's happening in baseball,

2088
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 2: and you know Messi's watch like I can't I can't respect.

2089
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 12: And I think to that point, as a culture, we

2090
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 12: need to stop pitting generations against each other, because everybody's

2091
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 12: going to have a different greatest of all time thing

2092
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 12: based off of what era you came up in. But

2093
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 12: but I don't like the idea that it's like the

2094
01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 12: older generations like, oh, that's whag, and the younger generation

2095
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 12: is like all the.

2096
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 11: Old stuff is whack. It's like, nah, it's just different.

2097
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 12: And if you educate yourself, like the idea that what

2098
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 12: happened before you isn't important anymore because it's about the now, well,

2099
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 12: you'll end up making the same mistakes that the artists

2100
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 12: before you did that we were hoping you would push

2101
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 12: it forward, and then there's gonna be another generation after

2102
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 12: you that's going.

2103
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 1: To build off of what you do.

2104
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 12: But we have gotten into this this pie, these pods

2105
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 12: where it's like the only thing that's dope is this,

2106
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 12: and that's not that's not true. And if if we're

2107
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 12: more celebratory of every it doesn't we don't have to

2108
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 12: like or everything don't have to be your cup of tea,

2109
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 12: but just the idea that anything but your stuff is

2110
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 12: whack or the older generation or newer generation.

2111
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 6: We just got to get out of that.

2112
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 9: I wish it was a podcast that gave flowers.

2113
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 1: And I have to say this, but I wish there

2114
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:56,959
Speaker 1: was a real platform where it was a hip hop platform.

2115
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 1: Like what I mean by that is like, and I'm

2116
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:01,560
Speaker 1: not saying we're not the platform. What I'm saying is

2117
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 1: we prefer to give flowers to people that has been here,

2118
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, you know, ten years or more. Right, But

2119
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 1: then there's a platform where we should all co exists, right, meaning.

2120
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 18: The newest of the newest guy from fucking you know,

2121
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:20,759
Speaker 18: Indiana should be connected with the newest newest guy from Compton,

2122
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 18: and you know, and vice versa.

2123
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 2: Do do what the fuck we do in hip hop?

2124
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like.

2125
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 1: We do is so beautiful, and it's like it's like

2126
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 1: that's the one thing I regret when you said I

2127
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 1: forget what you want to say like the younger generation.

2128
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 2: I always regret that because me.

2129
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 1: As a OG, sometimes I look over there and I

2130
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: want to say to him.

2131
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:47,680
Speaker 2: Similar to like that you said the new intervw RA

2132
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 2: story there say, so I.

2133
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:52,360
Speaker 1: Similar I look over there, and then I can look

2134
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 1: and I can see one of his homies, and I

2135
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 1: can feel like one of the homies, Like look at

2136
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 1: the old nigga trying to say, I've got that guy

2137
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 1: over here, my own smoking, of my own jam, none

2138
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 1: of that ship.

2139
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 2: That's me as an og being wrong.

2140
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be able to supersede that and say,

2141
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 1: all listen, let me introduce myself, right, young homie. Look

2142
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 1: regardless if you know who I am or not, you

2143
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, I know, I met Young

2144
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 1: Doug one night, and I did the wrong thing. I

2145
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 1: walked up to Young Doug and he uses slim. Slim

2146
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 1: is my my sling. Slim is my slang since two

2147
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 1: thousand and the more you can pull it up. And

2148
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 1: I walked up to him and I was just like,

2149
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 1: what's up, Broke. He was like, oh, what's up, Broke?

2150
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 2: And I was just like, all right, I.

2151
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 1: Know it's me that was wrong though, Like I fully

2152
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 1: didn't introduced myself.

2153
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:53,600
Speaker 2: I just wanted him to.

2154
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 1: Know who I was right then and there, and he did,

2155
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 1: and I was just like, you know what, stay in

2156
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 1: your own zone.

2157
01:49:58,080 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 2: But that was wrong of me.

2158
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: Like you know what, sometimes we can even bow down

2159
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 1: to ourselves because this is our community. And by the way,

2160
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 1: the reason why your name slime is because of me.

2161
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 1: Someone else's name you Slim, but that original.

2162
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 2: Name was was me since two thousand and one.

2163
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 1: And I could have easily said that. I didn't know

2164
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 1: how to say it, but I knew that that was

2165
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 1: the problems for us. Sometimes it's like I didn't know

2166
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:26,680
Speaker 1: how to be like yo, yo home. I just want

2167
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 1: you to know you made a whole career ten years

2168
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 1: and you kind of took my ship.

2169
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 2: Laugh about it, you know what I mean.

2170
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 1: But that's the part that I wish we could improve

2171
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:44,560
Speaker 1: and hip hop relations I was looking.

2172
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 5: Like that when you said that, because that happens to

2173
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 5: us a lot.

2174
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 2: We're weird.

2175
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:50,639
Speaker 5: It's like I don't want to introduce myself.

2176
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 2: I did.

2177
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to sometimes yeah, yeah, I'm good. I

2178
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:56,439
Speaker 1: want to get your handshaken. You be like, what's something

2179
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 1: like it should just be real?

2180
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 2: Really needed it all more than that.

2181
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 1: But then you got you got you got, you got

2182
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 1: this younger generation that does know you got a Kendrick

2183
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 1: Lamar that would sit.

2184
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,800
Speaker 2: There and be like, yo, what's up bro? You be like,

2185
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 2: oh ship you everybody.

2186
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that from you, and you got J Coles,

2187
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 1: you got these people who will sit down.

2188
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 7: But I think you could easily say that there's artists

2189
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,960
Speaker 7: that are culturally invested and artists that are just here

2190
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 7: for what.

2191
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 2: Let's just make this buck.

2192
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 7: And so I think my issue for for generationally going

2193
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 7: younger is that there's no problem with you not knowing something.

2194
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 2: We all don't know everything. We don't know that there's

2195
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 2: a problem with you not wanting to know. You should

2196
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 2: want to know. I know that about my thing that

2197
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 2: I do. Let me know that history will say for us.

2198
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 8: We're getting a lot of young people coming to our

2199
01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 8: shows all of a sudden, All of a Sudden'm talking eighteen.

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Speaker 2: You know, they weren't even born when we were. Because

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Speaker 2: you know why hip hop is trying to learn.

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Speaker 9: They want to learn, which is encouraging, right what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful, Yo, man, I had so much fun doing that.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: But you guys are a group that people should study.

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Speaker 1: People should understand definition of loyalty, people should understand the

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Speaker 1: definition of respect, and people should understand the definition of unity.

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Speaker 1: Facts that is not that is not common in hip hop.

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Speaker 1: I've been in this motherfucker twenty five years. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I see, motherfuckers can't even survive two months, let alone

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Speaker 1: two years, let alone twenty seven to thirty years.

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Speaker 2: And that shit is not normal.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to take the time out to respect y'all.

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Speaker 9: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Tell y'all how much y'all mean to not only me,

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Speaker 1: you know, not only say EFN and a drink chance

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Speaker 1: it's a hip hop. Think you man, there's an example

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Speaker 1: that we should all study and continue to study and

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Speaker 1: continue to represent and respect because it's not a lot

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Speaker 1: and the fact that y'all are one of many, but

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Speaker 1: y'all are probably the first. I have to salute y'all.

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you how much I respect y'all.

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Speaker 2: Thanks. Tell y'all. Man, like the ship that y'all did

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Speaker 2: is not normal. It's not normal.

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Speaker 1: Like like all right, all right, there was a Rockefeller

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Speaker 1: tree right one time, and they said Rockefeller. But then

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Speaker 1: they seen every group that could be related to rocket

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Speaker 1: fell word up. Do you know understand every group that

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Speaker 1: if we did that same shit, every group that could

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Speaker 1: be Lady, y'all, y'all would look like Johangti word up

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Speaker 1: in the field, because it would look and it would

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Speaker 1: keep going because there's certain groups that y'all birth that

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Speaker 1: birth to other groups, so that ship keeps going.

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Speaker 2: So in casey I didn't know it, I was just saying.

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Speaker 19: We made it to drinks. But it always has to be.

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Speaker 19: We always have to validate each other sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, but it's well warranted. Man, we were waiting

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Speaker 2: for this. Okay, one last question.

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Speaker 1: Okay, one last question. Because you know hip hop, we

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Speaker 1: always have these crazy names. How you get the name speech?

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Speaker 8: I used to be called DJ and you know, you know,

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Speaker 8: and they used to call me DJ Peach because in

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Speaker 8: my head and how big it is, so period a

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Speaker 8: name peach. Of course, when I started rhyming, I didn't

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Speaker 8: want to be known.

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Speaker 7: As m C.

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Speaker 9: Peach. That's like, so why I put an in front

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Speaker 9: of it?

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Speaker 8: That was it?

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Speaker 9: Speech? It just made sense. I just started rhyming. I

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Speaker 9: was like, this is this is it?

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Speaker 2: This makes sense? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I had something to say, So that was it.

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Speaker 20: Please take a look at the record because it's dope,

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Speaker 20: the actual take a look at But he's.

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Speaker 1: Very he's very about this one. Yeah, about the old

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Speaker 1: school one we had we had on head and he

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Speaker 1: gives one of the old.

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Speaker 2: Records, like that record, right, So this this, this is

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Speaker 2: the care, the care.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Drink Champs is a drink Champs ll C.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm