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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, the number one show

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Speaker 1: for the invested sports fan.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go fifteen, twenty, twenty five, thirty

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Speaker 2: the college football world. Stunners, Oh my goodness, please stumble

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Speaker 2: the bumble, the lateral turn, a general, the l Don't

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Speaker 1: It's not the sage of the dog in the fight,

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Speaker 1: It's the sage of the fight in the doll.

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Speaker 2: What's up the generate nation? Welcome to the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 2: This is the college football preseason Preview, Part four. I'm

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Speaker 2: stuck in with me as always as Colin Wilson. Today

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk some ACC aka the Atlantic Clemson Conference.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready to talk some ACC? Colm?

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Speaker 1: Who's not ready to talk about the ACC? Coastal probably

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Speaker 1: the best division in all of Power five?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it's it's brilliant. This is one of

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Speaker 2: the conferences where we won't have or I don't think

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Speaker 2: we will. I know I won't have any futures to

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Speaker 2: win the actual ACC. I mean, depending on where you look,

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Speaker 2: Clemson is minus five hundred to win their Division minus

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Speaker 2: six hundred. I've on right around there to win the conference.

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Speaker 2: We will talk some odds on who will win the

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Speaker 2: Coastal between you know, depending on where you look, but

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Speaker 2: it's right around Miami. It's a three team race pretty much,

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Speaker 2: unless you know, something shocking happens. But between Miami, Virginia

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Speaker 2: and Virginia Tech. We'll finish up with that. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: some Heisman also, who we like for the Heisman, if anybody,

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Speaker 2: But we'll say, you know, between those three teams, if

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Speaker 2: we do like one of them, and if we are

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Speaker 2: either going to bed or would recommend betting one of

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Speaker 2: them to win the Coastal to get to the ACC

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Speaker 2: Championship to presumably face Clemson. So we'll finish up with

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Speaker 2: Clemson and the Atlantic. We'll talk win totals, will go

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Speaker 2: through every team offense, defense, talk some special teams, some

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Speaker 2: scheduling spots, you know the deal. So let's get right

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Speaker 2: into it with the ACC Coastal with Duke. You know,

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Speaker 2: the big news with Duke in the off season is

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is gone. Obviously, he's now a New York Giant.

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Speaker 2: Good luck Giants fans. But you know, Quentin Harris is

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Speaker 2: a capable backup. I feel like he's being disrespected here

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Speaker 2: by a lot of people. But he was two when

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Speaker 2: I was a starter. He won at Northwestern overcame that

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Speaker 2: voodoo after Jones got hurt in that game. They have

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Speaker 2: some capable backs that are returning. Their offensive line is

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Speaker 2: pretty experienced, but the receivers are a major question mark.

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Speaker 2: Their defense has actually been pretty solid, and you know

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Speaker 2: their their secondary I think has the potential to be

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Speaker 2: really They have some players on the d line. The

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Speaker 2: question is, you know, can they get to the quarterback,

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Speaker 2: especially after they lost two of their stud linebackers and

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Speaker 2: make or break this defense. You know, they start against Alabama,

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Speaker 2: Alabama playing another brutal non conference schedule. I see they're

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Speaker 2: gonna be They're catching I think thirty two and a

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Speaker 2: by Duke in that game. Kill me. And you know,

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Speaker 2: one of the things that I've noticed when reading some

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Speaker 2: preseason pieces is that Cutcuff has been stressing conditioning. Like

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Speaker 2: he said multiple times, it's gonna be the most well

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Speaker 2: so it could be an interesting bet in the second half,

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Speaker 2: maybe the second half of the season, but maybe against Alabama.

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Speaker 2: You know Saban takes the foot off the pedal. But

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Speaker 2: something to keep in mind. Their win totals five and

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Speaker 2: You're going to see it, you know, a couple games

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Speaker 1: Well, first, I'm going to echo the sentiment about taking

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Speaker 3: I think if you look at Alabama, I.

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Speaker 1: Had not to go down an Alabama path, but if

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Speaker 1: I think a reason why we're going to play Duke

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Speaker 1: Cutcliffe as a coach, but you know, with my number

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Speaker 1: got it pegged pretty good at five point three. You know,

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Speaker 2: Saban has been vulnerable too, and those because he takes

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Speaker 2: Who will talk about later. But the quarterback play is

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Speaker 2: and there's just there's a ton of you know, change.

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Speaker 1: That may be the one that I'm listening to because

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Speaker 1: it's Mac Brown, I guess his old defensive coordinator at

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Speaker 1: Texas and Manny Diaz. Now if anybody doesn't you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm showing some age here. But nine years ago

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Speaker 1: so I'm really interested to see what happens. You know,

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Speaker 3: Going to do it. So keep your eyes out for that.

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Speaker 1: But other than that North Carolina, they have an offensive

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Speaker 1: returning production rank fifteen, fifteenth, and twenty eighteen with ISOPPP

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's move on to pit. Their win

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Speaker 2: isn't he in complete contrast? In Nordoozi wants to run

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very long time.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge game to start off the season. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: One hundred and sixteenth in sach rate, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: But you know, the Virginia is completely a havoc team.

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Speaker 2: You know, your Central Florida boiling all. I mean, this

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Speaker 3: But you know what, you guys call in because I'm

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Speaker 1: Like they have their highest strength of schedule they've ever had.

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Speaker 3: I'm story for the Group of five. We'll get there.

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Speaker 1: But there are good things about this pit schedule as

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Speaker 1: So from October fifth on, that signifies seven straight ACC

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see if they can protect

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Speaker 2: The problem for me is that Virginia home game to

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Speaker 2: before we get to Virginia. Pitt was catching twenty eight

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Speaker 2: Are you taking Clemson or the dog?

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Speaker 1: That's tough because I'm looking at my power ratings right

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Speaker 3: So I would have to take the other team. I

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Speaker 1: You give me twenty four and a half, I'd definitely

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's move on to Virginia. Win total eight

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Speaker 2: Can this team beat vas Tech? I mean the last

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Speaker 2: against Bots. Their touchdown plus records six and two, so

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Speaker 2: they have about six easy wins on the schedule on paper.

433
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Speaker 2: With four true coin flips in total of eight, you

434
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Speaker 2: make it eight point one. I make it right around

435
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Speaker 2: there as well, so win total looks about right. What

436
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Speaker 2: are your thoughts on the Cavaliers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, same thing with the I mean, it's the pit

438
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Speaker 1: game for me. I mean we've talked about this before.

439
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,040
Speaker 1: Instead of taking a season long prop, if you like

440
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,919
Speaker 1: Virginia to go over that eight, you might as well

441
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 1: take them against Pitt. If you like them to go under,

442
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 1: might as well take pits. So that is a coin

443
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Speaker 1: little game, but there are a couple coin flip games,

444
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Speaker 1: and potentially Virginia Tech would like you mentioned, they have

445
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Speaker 1: won that game since two thousand and three. Maybe this

446
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 1: is the year they break through with maybe you know,

447
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,000
Speaker 1: it is Bud Foster's last game regular season game, and

448
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Speaker 1: if Virginia Tech is not Bowl eligible, that could be

449
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 1: a bad spot to walk into. You know, Virginia's thirty

450
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Speaker 1: fifth and returning production and they were twenty first and

451
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Speaker 1: overall success rate last year. The defense is fantastic. They're

452
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Speaker 1: overshadowed by Perkins. In my opinion, Bryce Perkins gets a

453
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Speaker 1: ton of a pub and any should, but that defense

454
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Speaker 1: is amazing. They had a HAVOC rate of sixteenth in

455
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Speaker 1: the linebacker unit. That have a rate of second in

456
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Speaker 1: the nation in the secondary. So good luck thrown against

457
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Speaker 1: these guys. Good luck trying to get anything from you know,

458
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,679
Speaker 1: five yards out in the passing game against them. So

459
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Speaker 1: they'll just eat you up alive within a can. As

460
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Speaker 1: far as pass blocks and sacks and i's and everything.

461
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Speaker 1: So price, you know, Bryce Perkins continues to go. He's

462
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Speaker 1: top twenty and standard down sufficiency. They can move the

463
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Speaker 1: chains like there's no tomorrow. They were top ten and

464
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Speaker 1: third down success rates, So whatever problems we're on defense,

465
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Speaker 1: you know, Bryce Perkins was chewing up clock and making

466
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Speaker 1: the chains move and controlling the game. Bronkolman and almost

467
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Speaker 1: controlling the game because of what Bryce Perkins can do.

468
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Speaker 1: I believe they had an adjusted pace last year of

469
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Speaker 1: one of the slowest in the nation. Yeah, one hundred

470
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Speaker 1: and twenty fifth. So yeah, I think it's just going

471
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Speaker 1: to be more of the same. The schedule is is

472
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Speaker 1: nice of the fact that it doesn't include Clemson, and

473
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Speaker 1: the Cavaliers played just one home game between September twenty

474
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Speaker 1: second and November eight, So what that means is, you know,

475
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Speaker 1: they have more home games at the beginning of the season,

476
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Speaker 1: they have more home games after November eight. That's a

477
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Speaker 1: good thing, but there is a really long stretch where

478
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Speaker 1: they played just one home game over a span of

479
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Speaker 1: September twenty seconds and November eight, so that's definitely something

480
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Speaker 1: to watch for. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. As

481
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Speaker 1: far as the win total, no play there. I think

482
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Speaker 1: they deservedly have the correct odds to win the Coastal

483
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Speaker 1: But this team is definitely I like them more than

484
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Speaker 1: I like Miami to represent.

485
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Speaker 3: The coastal in the ACC Championship game.

486
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Speaker 2: I can't say that, all right, we'll get to Miami next.

487
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Speaker 2: One thing I will say about Virginia, you know, I

488
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Speaker 2: mean they need to get better and more efficient in

489
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Speaker 2: the red zone. I mean that was a huge issue

490
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Speaker 2: for them last year, and now they lose their top receiver,

491
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Speaker 2: so you know they were moving the ball, but can

492
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Speaker 2: they actually convert threes into sevens this year? That'll go

493
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 2: a long way into deciding those coin flip games. You know,

494
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Speaker 2: against Florida State. There's a lot of unknowns about against

495
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Speaker 2: you know a Georgia Tech, who they should win, but

496
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of unknowns there. And then Virginia Tech

497
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: and they get over the hump. There's some potential sleepy

498
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Speaker 2: spots in the first month. So they go to pit.

499
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Speaker 2: Then they come home for William and Mary, who's dreadful,

500
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Speaker 2: but it's you know, a bunch of Virginia kids. It's

501
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 2: the ex Virginia coach who got fired there London. He's

502
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 2: the head coach of William and Mary. So I'm sure

503
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Speaker 2: they'll be up for that game. Because then they go

504
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Speaker 2: to Florida State, and then in between Florida State and

505
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Speaker 2: a trip to Notre Dame, they got Old Dominion at

506
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Speaker 2: home and Old Dominion's coming off a bye, So there's

507
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Speaker 2: some potential good fate spots at Virginia.

508
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Speaker 1: Early the schedule has Liberty Sandwich between Georgia Tech and

509
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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech.

510
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Speaker 3: That's a great spot too.

511
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Speaker 2: They do a buye before Liberty. But yeah, we'll look

512
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Speaker 2: at the flames there. I'm sure Virginia will be prepping

513
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Speaker 2: for vo Tech to see if they could finally get

514
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Speaker 2: over that homep whatever they've lost. What's seventeen in a row.

515
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Speaker 2: We mentioned Va Tech in Miami, two of the co

516
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Speaker 2: favorites depending on where you look to win their division.

517
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Speaker 2: But before we get to those two teams, let's talk

518
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Speaker 2: about Georgia Tech, which is probably the most fascinating team

519
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 2: in the preseason because guess what, there is no more

520
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: triple option at Georgia Tech. It's a crime. Jeff Collins

521
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: Era begins, They're going to run a modern pro style

522
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Speaker 2: fast spread attack. What Georgia Tech and I have no

523
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Speaker 2: idea how it's gonna work. Do they have received they

524
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Speaker 2: have the tight end? Georgia Tech doesn't use a tight end,

525
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: So I have no idea how this is going to

526
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: work in the first year. Their offensive line it's going

527
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: to be completely different. Their quarterback looks like it's gonna

528
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 2: be Lucas Johnson. There's questions about him, but I mean,

529
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 2: he has the best arm, so I assume that he's

530
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: going to get the starters. Their defense is also changing

531
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: to a four to two five, but they lost seven starters.

532
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 2: Their touchdown plus record is one in eight, so they

533
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Speaker 2: only have one easy win on the schedule with three

534
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Speaker 2: games under a touchdown, So can they win all four

535
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Speaker 2: of those? They get to four to oh assuming four wins,

536
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Speaker 2: assuming no upsets. I don't know, man, there's a lot

537
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: of questions here the offensive line transition. They did get

538
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Speaker 2: a tight end from Yukon Tyler Davis, who could be

539
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 2: pretty good. But this is the best rushing team in

540
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Speaker 2: the country last year and two. They have great running

541
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Speaker 2: backs coming back, but now they're going to be a

542
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Speaker 2: pro style, fast spread attack, which I think might be

543
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Speaker 2: good in the future, but I don't know for this year.

544
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Speaker 2: They do have great special teams, give them that, but

545
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Speaker 2: Georgia Tech here, I think that there's a lot that

546
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Speaker 2: can go wrong to schedule. I mean, I only see

547
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Speaker 2: one win that I'm confident in saying Georgia Tech is

548
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 2: gonna win this game. Other than that, I mean, it's

549
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: tough and there's a lot that could go wrong. There's

550
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: a lot of change, So I know, you make the

551
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: win total three point nine and as we said before,

552
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Speaker 2: you know, which is right around where it's at over

553
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: three and f minus one fifty, So you know, and

554
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: that one win that they have is at home against Citadel.

555
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: They start at Clemson with all this new offense. I

556
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: mean that could get ugly, and then they have USF

557
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: at home and then the Citadel, then they're at Temple. Yeah,

558
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Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on the ramblin reck?

559
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they start with Clemson, they end with Georgia.

560
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: We are a pro Jeff Collins podcast.

561
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Speaker 3: We always have been. We like his capris, but this year,

562
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna.

563
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: Be tough, and you know, he is more about establishing

564
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: a culture and an attitude because everything is schemmatically is

565
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: completely changing. If you have read any of the stuff

566
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: on the Action Network. There is a video clip of

567
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Speaker 1: him after the spring game coming in and saying that

568
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: they completed a pass to the tight end, and it

569
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 1: was this somewhere, been like ten years since Georgia Tech

570
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: has completed a pass to a tight end. So you

571
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Speaker 1: mentioned Tyler Davis. He transfers in from Yukon. He had

572
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Speaker 1: twenty two catches there last year. If you're a college

573
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: fantasy football player, you may be able to get Tyler

574
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: Davis on the cheapest of all cheap, maybe the last

575
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: round of your draft. And he's going to catch the

576
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Speaker 1: balls at Georgia Tech, which nobody could believe happened with

577
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Speaker 1: a tight end. So, like I said, complete rebuild from

578
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: a schematic point of view, everywhere, the Yellowjackets are one

579
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Speaker 1: hundred and nineteenth and returning production. To add on to

580
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: the problem, you know, with leading behind a decade long

581
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: worth of triple option with Paul Johnson, This isn't about

582
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: competing for a division title. This is about recruiting. This

583
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: is about a culture. This is about establishing football in

584
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Speaker 1: downtown Atlanta. He wants to own the Atlanta metro area.

585
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Speaker 1: But he's passionate about this program, and that's a great thing.

586
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Speaker 1: The Temple game is kind of hard to figure.

587
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Speaker 3: Out because, yeah, Jeff Collins will be you know.

588
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Speaker 1: He'll be fired up for that Temple game because he

589
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: came from Temple. But he cares about those players a lot.

590
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: He allowed all of his assistants to stay at Temple

591
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Speaker 1: so that they could go play in the Independence Bowl,

592
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Speaker 1: so that they could all coach under full with the

593
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: greatest motivational speak in Shreveport history. So he has a

594
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: really strong relationship with the players themselves. But his players

595
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: at Georgia Tech wouldn't care two seconds about what's going

596
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: on with Temple. They would care more about North Carolina

597
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: the following week on October fifth. So I'm not really

598
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Speaker 1: sure what the advantage is. There may be more on

599
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Speaker 1: the Temple side. So they're going to be a week

600
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Speaker 1: to week play and fade. I can't imagine playing on them.

601
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: They will be a fade in certain spots. As much

602
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: as I want to say, the number at Clemson is

603
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: going to get too high and it's going to be inflated.

604
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: You look at the roster here and the secondary takes hits.

605
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: They lose their nickelback that he was the top tackler.

606
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: They lose Malik rivera free safety, they lose.

607
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Speaker 3: One of their cornerbacks.

608
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Speaker 1: It's just it's not gonna be pretty and Trevor's going

609
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: to be on you know, Heisman watch from the second

610
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: he takes a snap, so you know, staring at that

611
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: secondary that's missing. You know, a nickelback, a free safety

612
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: in a corner is just going to be licking the chops.

613
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Speaker 1: And I don't see them taking their foot off the

614
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Speaker 1: pedal against Jeff Collins for any reason. It could be

615
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Speaker 1: a welcoming from Dabo Sweeney to run up the score.

616
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Speaker 2: You mentioned some other games almost just did. In that

617
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 2: Citadel game Week three, September fourteenth, at home, Georgia Tech

618
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: is going to be playing Citadel, and only the team

619
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Speaker 2: running the option in that game is going to be

620
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Speaker 2: the Citadel who's running triple option while Georgia Tech is

621
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Speaker 2: trying to implement their pro spread. But you know, Citadel,

622
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: as if some will remember, was tied at the half

623
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Speaker 2: at Alabama. They do have their quarterback Brandon Rainey, who

624
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 2: he's coming back to lead the triple option and he

625
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 2: you know, became the starter late in the season and

626
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: then they're you know, they're rushing attack really just took off.

627
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Speaker 2: So potentially interesting game there. You obviously I'm always interested

628
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: in the random at CSFBS matchups, but enough talk about

629
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Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. Let's get on to two of the co

630
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Speaker 2: favorites in the conference, excuse me, in the division along

631
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Speaker 2: with Virginia. We'll start with Virginia Tech win total eight

632
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: Westgate over eight minus one fifty column you make the

633
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: seven and a half, So assuming you like the under,

634
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of questions about vas Tech.

635
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of transfers in the off season that's

636
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: becoming a narrative. They do have Ryan Willis coming back,

637
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: but they Jackson to a transfer their other quarterback. They

638
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: have a deep receiving core, but there's questions at running back.

639
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: There's questions on the offensive line, you know. But they

640
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: had terrible injury luck last year, which you think has

641
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: to improve this year. And I love their schedule that

642
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: touchdown plus record that I mentioned. They're nine and one,

643
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: so they have nine games where they should be about

644
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: a touchdown or more favorite and only one where they'll

645
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: be a touchdown or more of an underdog. With two

646
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: coin flip games they are both on the road at Virginia,

647
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: who they've owned, and then at Miami. So you know,

648
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: I actually would tend to I think this is a

649
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: nine win team this is, you know, at the defense

650
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: should it was just it was atrocious last year, but

651
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 2: I don't think that continues this year. We mentioned if

652
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: Budd's last year in Blacksburg. I think you fade a

653
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: lot of the narratives here and you're getting votech cheap

654
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: with this schedule. There are still some questions, but I

655
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: actually might look at the over. I think this team

656
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: at least gets the nine wins, you know, and if

657
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: they continue their domination over Virginia, and if they can

658
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: steal a game at Miami, you know, maybe this team

659
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: gets eleven wins. I don't think they have a shot

660
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: against Clemson, but the schedule's favorable. What are your thoughts

661
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: on about Tech that you do make seven and a half.

662
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get on the side of the over and

663
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: taking them for the coastal And then sometimes I look

664
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: at some of these advanced stats and I think there's

665
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: no way I can trust them with some of my money.

666
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: So if we get into it, the Hokies are number

667
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: one in defensive returning production, and the ACC schedule is

668
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: extremely easy for them to navigate. As you mentioned, the

669
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: road slate is a mixture of rebuilding teams. Boston college

670
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, and they get extra rest against Miami. Now

671
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: Miami is not going to go undefeated in conference plays,

672
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: so Virginia Tech could potentially go to Miami, lose the game,

673
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: make that their only loss, and Miami could lose two

674
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: and Virginia Tech is.

675
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: Still the one representing the coastal. But what pulls me back?

676
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: I keep coming back to some of these splits that

677
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: I see with Bud Foster's defense. I mean, he does

678
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: return everybody in every single unit, but he has got

679
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: to trim his ISOPPP rank. His rank against explosive plays

680
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: is atrocious. Last year it was one hundred and twenty fifth,

681
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: so I started doing some research.

682
00:29:59,320 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: It's not a flut.

683
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: They were one hundred and twenty second against exposive plays

684
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. They were sixty second against exposed plays

685
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. They were one hundred and fourteenth in

686
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. The efficiency has tailed off over the span

687
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: of the last three years. And when your efficiency tails

688
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: off and you can't get a three and out and

689
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: you can't you know, get them to stop moving the chains,

690
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: that's when you're exposed to plays open up. It's been

691
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: a huge problem for them for years. I don't know

692
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: if Bud Foster has just decided to say I mean,

693
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: there's rumors, there isn't anything solid that says that him

694
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: and Justin Fuintez had problems working together. He figured everything

695
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: was fine because they cleared the air and everybody was

696
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: coming back this year. But now with Bud Foster leaving,

697
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: it's going to be his swan song this year. Maybe

698
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: he can get that all taken care of. But maybe

699
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Justin Flint's at the same time, looks at what they've

700
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: done against giving up, you know, twenty thirty yard plays

701
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: and said, you know, we've got to make a change here, Bud,

702
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: what do you think about moving into like an administrative role.

703
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what the story is behind the retirement,

704
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: but what I know is is this team cannot stop people.

705
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: From making big plays.

706
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: You look at the schedule, there's not a lot of

707
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: big play teams on the schedule. Old Dominion, Furman, Austin College.

708
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: Nobody on this slate is going to be able to

709
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: like just tear them up from an offensive standpoint. But

710
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to back Virginia Tech when I

711
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: look at some of these defensive stats over the span

712
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: of the last three years.

713
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, if you just assume that they

714
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: lose at Miami, Miami's coming off a bye and they

715
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: lose at Notre Dame, right, so the at Boston College

716
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: in Week one is a huge game for their season.

717
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: They took a lot from coming back against Virginia and

718
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: the blowing out Marshall in the Bowl. I mean that

719
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: was after a hard stretch. But just look at this schedule.

720
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: After they go to BC. If they win that game,

721
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: they have three home games with a buy in there

722
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: against Old Dominion, Furman, and Duke. Then their next two

723
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: home games are Rhode Island and North Carolina, and then

724
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: you know, assume they lose at Notre Dame home against Wake,

725
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: then they're at Georgia Tech, but then they're home against

726
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: pitt and then they're at Virginia, who they've dominated. So

727
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: I can't see this team not winning at least eight

728
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: games with that schedule. So if I can get eight,

729
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's a good shot. I think

730
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: this is a nine win team. I think I'm fanning

731
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: the narratives with Votec, But you're right, there's questions about

732
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: the defense. I just trust Foster's last season with all

733
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: that returning production, they probably you would think, have to

734
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: have better injury luck than they did last year. I

735
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: think I'm a buyer. In Blacksburg, we did mention Miami.

736
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: Let's close out the coastal and talk about the Hurricanes there.

737
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: You know, win totals eight and a half over eight

738
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: and a half minus one forty at Westgate, you make

739
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: it eight flat. You know, it's the beginning of the

740
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: Manny Diaz Eerra's head coach. You know, when I look

741
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: at Miami, there's obviously quarterback questions, right, So you have

742
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: Ohio State transfer Tate Martel, you had Nkosey Perry back,

743
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: you have a red shirt freshman Jaron Williams. So who's

744
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: going to take over that quarterback position and how well

745
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: can they play? I mean that's going to dictate where

746
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: Miami goes. Because they do have solid receivers. You know,

747
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: Jeff Thomas ended up staying. They got Buffalo transfer Osbourne in,

748
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: you know, Cager's back. So the receivers are solid, but

749
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: the offense is just going to all come down to

750
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: the quarterback play because the defense event should be excellent.

751
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: They probably they may have the best linebackers in all

752
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: of college football. Pick me in quartermin or studs. There

753
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: are some questions in the secondary. But Bubba Bolden transferred

754
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: in from USC. He'll help the run defense against these

755
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: like power teams. You know when they played Wisconsin, that's

756
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: the question because this team's going to live in the

757
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: backfield and they are just going to get to the quarterback.

758
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: They are going to lead the nation of tackles for

759
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: loss again, but you know, against these power rushing attacks.

760
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: But there's not a lot of them on the schedule.

761
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: You know.

762
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: If I look at their touchdown plus record, just like

763
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: bo Tech nine and one, so they have nine games,

764
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: will be I think at least a touchdown favorite with

765
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: two coin flips, and those two coin flips are at

766
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 2: Florida State and home against VA Tech. Over under eight

767
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: and a half. I would lean over if I had

768
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: more confidence in the quarterback position. But what are your

769
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: thoughts on Miami and specifically their new offensive coordinator Dan

770
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: Enos who have some I'm sure you have some thoughts

771
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: on from his time at Arkansas.

772
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm shocked that we over the span of the Degen

773
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: and Juice podcast and the Action Colleges podcast last year.

774
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: We don't have enough audio to fill up an entire

775
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: hour about me talking about Dan Inos. So, yeah, Miami

776
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: is excellent on defense, and it's good that they retained

777
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: many Diaz after the whole Hey, I'm going to Temple.

778
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: I'm going up to Phillyum and be at Temple for

779
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: a day.

780
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: I think his Twitter had had more bio changes than

781
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: I've had my entire nine year history in Twitter. So

782
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: they're in twenty four hours. Many Diaz had had a

783
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: new bio, had a new avatar. I had knew everything

784
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: twice within forty eight hours. But no, he's the head coach.

785
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: His first active business was to go get an offensive coordinator.

786
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: He went and got Danios from Alabama, with the very

787
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: famous where the fuck is dan story that came out

788
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: of Alabama where Nick Saban came to the office one day,

789
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: was looking for his offensive coordinator and Danny Andos just ghosted.

790
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: The office was already down at Miami, cleaned out. His

791
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: office was down at Miami and already designing place and

792
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: working with Banny Diaz. So gives you some insight about

793
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: how things go around Alabama. He has his work cut

794
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: out for him. Dany and knows as Nikosi Perry, who

795
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: was one of the more frustrating freshmen to ever watch

796
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: play quarterback in Tate Martell at quarterbacks. So you know,

797
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: Tate Martell not exactly sure what we're going to get there,

798
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: Like we don't know his ceiling. Obviously wanted nothing to

799
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: do with the competition with Justin Fields at Ohio State.

800
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: We don't know if that's Ryan Day just telling Tate Martell,

801
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: like listen, you know Justin Field is automatically going to

802
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: be the starter. But Martell didn't want to compete. He

803
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: was out, went down to Miami. But he's going to

804
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: be behind either of these quarterbacks. They're going to be

805
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: behind an offensive line that lost seventy five careers starts.

806
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: That's gonna be tough because Nikosi Perry is not the

807
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: best at protecting the ball. In Tate Martell, who is

808
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: looking good through a couple of days practice, Danyos has.

809
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: Been working with him on his footwork and.

810
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: Shortening up his his throwing mechanics a little bit. So

811
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: I think from the early practice reports to come out there,

812
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: and I know Tate Martell, if you're betting on quarterbacks

813
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: who are going to start for the game. I know

814
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: Tate Martell is taking off in the market, but it

815
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: looks like Enos is favoring Martell early in the action here,

816
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: So what to see how that plays out. But you

817
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: know the Hurricanes, you know, the defense is going to

818
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: be good, but they're gonna host contenders Virginia and Virginia

819
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: Tech and hard Rock Stadium.

820
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: That's a good thing.

821
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: That's what happened two years ago when they hosted everybody

822
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: that was tough in the ACC. They also hosted Notre

823
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: Dame that got them all the way to I believe

824
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: in Orange Bowl.

825
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to be.

826
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: In Vegas for Week zero because I've got Florida in

827
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: my sights. I got to go in and get some

828
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: business taken care of. But I'm also going to be

829
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: there because I'm going to be heavy on the Gators.

830
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: Mostly it's because Manny Diaz was the defensive coordinator at

831
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: Mississippi State on two separate occasions under Dan Mullen. He left,

832
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: once came back, I was there for another year, took off.

833
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 1: I think that's a major coaching advantage for Dan Mullen.

834
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: He knows everything about Manny Dia as the system, everything

835
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: that many Diez.

836
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: Wants to do.

837
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a major advantage for Florida. I'm there

838
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: under definitely in the first half, yea, considering that Florida lost,

839
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: you know, four offensive linemen. Definitely an under in the

840
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: first half has got to be played there. But I

841
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: like Florida full game. But talking about Dany Noos for

842
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: a minute, I don't like this Miami offense. And the

843
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: reason why I'm not going to take them to win

844
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: the Coastal and the reason why I'm going to continue

845
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: to fade them is because I've never been a fan

846
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: of them as an offensive coordinator. I'm not going to

847
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: say it's a personal thing. I'll try to be as

848
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: statistical based on this opinion as possible. But once he

849
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: left Arkansas and he went to Michigan, Michigan's offensive stats

850
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: didn't do anything any better while he was there. Then

851
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: he went to Alabama, but he really wasn't in charge

852
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: of me. Josh Gattis was a part of the game plan.

853
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: My Colosiley was a part of the game plan. But

854
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: this goes back to twenty fifteen. Twenty fifteen, Dan Inos

855
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator at Arkansas under Brett Beelman. He

856
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: had full reigns for coaching and calling the plays, designing everything.

857
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: And I go back to that Toledo game, and why

858
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: is that Toledo game important? Because dan Inos is originally

859
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: from Central Michigan. He coached in the Mac forever. He

860
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: knew all the he knew all of the Mac teams

861
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: front to back. Arkansas lost to Toledo sixteen to twelve.

862
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: At home.

863
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: We scored twelve points. The Razorbacks with offensive weapons, plenty

864
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: of them in that year. We scored twelve points at

865
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: home against a Toledo defense. Toledo defense, there's no such

866
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: thing as a Toledo defense. Ever since then, I followed

867
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: dan Ininos in his career, and there's just not a

868
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: lot of things I've seen in his offenses that make

869
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: me want to get up out of my chair, open

870
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: up my wall, and throw some money down on an

871
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: offense that he's coaching. So I've got high on Miami

872
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: to win the Coastal and I'm definitely not buying any

873
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: of their numbers to go over the total or to

874
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: win the division.

875
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: Well, look here's the thing with Miami. Now they do start,

876
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: They're catching seven ish in that Week zero opener against

877
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: Florida on August twenty fourth, that's in Orlando. If they

878
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 2: win that game, this might sound crazy, Miami could go

879
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 2: undefeated and it might not have anything to do with Miami.

880
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: It has to do with their schedule. You stop me

881
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: when you think they're gonna lose if they beat before, Okay,

882
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: at North Carolina home against Bethune Cookman, home against Central Michigan,

883
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: by home against VA Tech, home against Virginia, home against

884
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech at pitt it's not even Halloween yet, at

885
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: Florida State, that's real, stop, all right, and then home

886
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: against Louisville home against FIU, although that's in Marlins Park,

887
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: and then at Duke. But look, if they beat Florida,

888
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: this schedule is I mean, it is cake. I mean

889
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 2: just in September. In September they have three games North Carolina,

890
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: Bethune Cookman, in Central Michigan, and then they get two

891
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: weeks to prepare for vov Tech at home, and then

892
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: home against Virginia and then home against Georgia Tech. So

893
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: they beat Florida, I mean, there's a really really good

894
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: chance that this team is you know, seven to zero

895
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: headed into your weather game at pit. So I'm inclined

896
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: to look at an over for Miami. It will come

897
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: down to the quarterback play. And Danny knows as we've said,

898
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 2: but well, I'll save your Florida State thought you think

899
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 2: they're gonna lose a Florida State.

900
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: Let me say this before we get to Florida State.

901
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: If Miami runs the table one loss or no losses

902
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: or whatever, if they get through this entire schedule with

903
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: that kind of record, that's gonna make me really happy

904
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: as a gambler. Because if you can walk into that

905
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: AEC championship game and I'm able to buy, I mean,

906
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: this price of Clemson at minus five hundred minus seven

907
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: hundred something, you can give me an AEC Championship game

908
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: price of minus three hundred to minus three fifty, I'll

909
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: slam it.

910
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: So I hope Miami does that.

911
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: All right, that will wrap up the ACC Coastal. Now

912
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: let's get to the Atlantic. Well, I did say I

913
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: want to talk abou Florida State, but let me have

914
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 2: to start at Clemson because we'll spend one minute on it. Look,

915
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: they're minus five hundred minus six hundred to win this division,

916
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: minus five hundred on the act, depending on where you

917
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: look they're loaded there, two touchdown plus favorites in every game.

918
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: They're going to the playoffs, they're going to the eight

919
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: C championship. Their win totals eleven and a half. I

920
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: don't want to bet the over you. Colin makes an

921
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: eleven point nine, which is hilarious and but I think accurate.

922
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: I mean, basically, are they going to trip up? Are

923
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: they gonna get ups at once? Like you know what

924
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: happens against Syracuse. Maybe they're still gonna go to the

925
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: AC Championship, still gonna win. Its still gonna go to

926
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: the playoff. But I'm not investing over eleven and a half.

927
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: I think the totals about right. We'll spend thirty seconds

928
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: on Clemson. Any thoughts there.

929
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're three three touchdown favorites against everybody in conference,

930
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: that's how you get an eleven point nine win total

931
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: and expected to dominate every single game. Let me try

932
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: to be picky in thirty seconds. If you're going to

933
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: attack Clemson, it's going to be the linebacker corps. A

934
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: smart team would attack them where their linebackers are. It's

935
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: been it's a little thin. They've lost some players. The

936
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: recruiting talent isn't as good there, So screens and slants

937
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: maybe the way to attack them.

938
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: Tre Lawrence's gonna win a Heisman.

939
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: Well, well that's a teaser. We'll finish with the Heisman.

940
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: That's all. That's all we'll say about Clemson. Let's move

941
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: on to Syracuse seven and we'll save Florida State for

942
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: the last I think that's one of the tea that

943
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people are really wondering. Now. There's a

944
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: lot of questions there Syracuse. You know, it's no more

945
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: done grip. Tommy DeVito will take over as quarterback. He's

946
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: more of a traditional quarterback. I like their running backsm

947
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: O'nial's back, but they lost both their tackles. That's a

948
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: big question. Their defense can be solid as long as

949
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: the linebackers can emerge. Me there's a lot of linebacker

950
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: question marks of the ACC Babers I think is starting

951
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: to get depth in place. He's been there a few years.

952
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: What I love about this team is their special teams.

953
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: I think they have the best special teams in the nation.

954
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: They did last year and everyone is back. You know,

955
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: the lou Grose Award kicker, their punting was I mean,

956
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: everything about the Syracuse special teams was great. If there's

957
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: you know, a one weakness of clubs, there's special teams,

958
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: but they who cares. They don't kick field goals and

959
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: they never punt. Syracuse, though their win total is eight

960
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: over eight plus one forty at Westgate, their touchdown plus

961
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: record three and two. So they have seven games which

962
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: will be under a touchdown and four on the road

963
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 2: at Maryland, at Duke at Louisville and then home against

964
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: NC State, pit BC and Wake. You know, all those

965
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: potentially could go either way. I think it's a high.

966
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: Where do you have it at one of your thoughts

967
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: on the QS.

968
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: I think it's tad Hi too.

969
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: I believe I have this down at seven point three,

970
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: so it's high at eight. That it opened up at

971
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: five I think at fan duels, so that number was

972
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: off and got a lot of overaction for me. So

973
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: while I would like Syracuse to get the six, I

974
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: don't think there's any way that they can at least

975
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: surpass the eight that's currently out there.

976
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: So under would be the way to look here.

977
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: But when you look at the advanced stats with Tommy DeVito,

978
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean a fifty percent completion rate through eighty seven attempts.

979
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, he had an even worse sack rate

980
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: of eleven point two percent. Could be first year, you know,

981
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: could be first year. He was, I think of freshman

982
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: last year. So it doesn't know how to get rid

983
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: of the ball, taking too many sacks as you know,

984
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: trying to make too many passes with a poor completion rate. No,

985
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: maybe he has it in him to be better. I mean,

986
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: he wasn't the most highest rated, recruited good quarterback, but

987
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: he is actually on this roster. When it comes to

988
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: Clayton Well, Rex Culpepper, and David Summers, so Syracuse, they

989
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: return every player from a special team's unit that ranked

990
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: second in sm P plus.

991
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 3: But I think they take a step back here.

992
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: Their offensive returning production rank was ninetieth, So I don't

993
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be what we've seen from Dungee over

994
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: the past couple of years. They're not gonna be able

995
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: to put up points as much. But you're right, they're

996
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: still building depth. They're still an upcoming program. I designed

997
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: is way too much.

998
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: I would agree with you. There another team that I

999
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 2: think their win totals two highs endcs State over seven

1000
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: minus one fifty. I make it, you know, right around

1001
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: a seven flat. Actually six nine nice, but it's and

1002
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: you make it six point eight. So over seven plus money,

1003
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: I mean, under seven plus money is really enticing to me.

1004
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: You know, you have they lost a ton good. You know,

1005
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: Ryan Finley senior quarterback gone, leading rusher gone, two thousand

1006
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: yard receivers gone, and most importantly, you know, three of

1007
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: the best offensive lignment in the conference last year are gone. Also,

1008
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: they have two new co offensive coordinators, so they're and

1009
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 2: they're gonna have a quarterback battle three inexperienced guys. Their

1010
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 2: defense does bring a lot back, but there's just major

1011
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: questions about this offense. Their touchdown plus record five and three,

1012
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: so they've I'm confident they're gonna get five wins. Confident

1013
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: to lose three games. Then they have four games that

1014
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: are under a touchdown. Can they go three and one

1015
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: in those games assuming no upsets? I don't think so.

1016
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: I mean the three of those are on the road

1017
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 2: at BC, at West Virginia, at WAKE, and then home

1018
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: against UNC. So it's not brutal, but I think under

1019
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: seven a plus money holds a value. What are your

1020
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: thoughts on the pack.

1021
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've lost so much. I mean that this is

1022
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: a team. They're one hundred and twenty ninth in offensive

1023
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: returning production. And that's what the graduation of Ryan Finley.

1024
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: Finley was excellent passer. I mean that was the window

1025
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: for NC State was the last two years to be

1026
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: able to be able to contend and they actually do

1027
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: some damage in the ACC and that time has passed.

1028
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, from the skill positions of the lineman,

1029
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: there just isn't much left of the will pack from

1030
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and they were twentieth in success rates.

1031
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: So you can't look at last year's numbers because they

1032
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 3: don't have anything back.

1033
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, most of the schedule is you know,

1034
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: within a touchdown, a round, a touchdown or less. You know,

1035
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: we got games at BC at Wake Forest, and then

1036
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: the schedule concludes with Louisville, Georgia Tech, and North Carolina.

1037
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: So we're swimming in the cellar of the of the

1038
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: ACC here and trying to come out with if State

1039
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: can rattle off a whole bunch of wins against teams

1040
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: that are either going up or down or making progress.

1041
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: We don't know what Georgia Tech is going to be

1042
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: in game eleven. We don't know what North Carolina is

1043
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: going to be in game twelve. You know, for that matter,

1044
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: Boston College starts after this game. Boston College starts one

1045
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: of the toughest into five games I think of all

1046
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: of FBS, so, you know, Florida State and Syracuse. I

1047
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: think that's going to be tough for them to win.

1048
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: East Carolina is up and coming. I mean, I haven't

1049
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: made a bet on this yet, but East Carolina's offense is.

1050
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: Going to be sneaky good.

1051
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: Their coach is from James Madison. They could get up,

1052
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 1: you know, they could come up and bite Inca State.

1053
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: They'll be heavily fired up for ncay State. NC State

1054
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: doesn't return much. So definitely upset alerk there for me.

1055
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: And one that I've got my eye on.

1056
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 3: A week one.

1057
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: Yep, I think that the unders look there. Speaking of

1058
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: average teams, which we've talked a lot about in the ACC,

1059
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: Boston College, let's talk them. Their win total six over

1060
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: six minus one twentieth west Gate, which seems spot on.

1061
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: You make it six point one. They have won seven

1062
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: games in five of the past six years, but the

1063
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: thirty eight and thirty eight in the Adasio era and

1064
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: I think they're probably going to finish again with six

1065
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: wins this year. You know, aj Dillon is the horse

1066
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: back at running back. The big question on the offense

1067
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: is how much can Anthony Brown improve a quarterback? And

1068
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: you know, if he could take a big step forward,

1069
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: I think their offense could be decent. You know, he

1070
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: has a new offensive coordinator in there, the ex quarterback

1071
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: coach of Jamis Winston, so how much can he help

1072
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: with Browns development. They did lose all ECC tight end

1073
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 2: Tommy Sweeney, and they only return one offensive line starter.

1074
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 2: They had five returning starters last year, so that's big

1075
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: as well. They also have a new defensive coordinator who

1076
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 2: was the ex linebacker coach, but the defense lost a ton.

1077
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: They also lost their nation's leading return man in special teams,

1078
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: so there's a lot of questions about this DC team.

1079
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: Outside of Dylan, I think the sixth is spot on.

1080
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: I think this team's probably going to a bowl. The

1081
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: last two games at Notre Dame, loss at pit maybe,

1082
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: but probably loss that. You know, it's probably gona come

1083
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: down one of those last two games.

1084
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you shop around, I mean there are there

1085
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: is a couple six and a halfs out there juiced.

1086
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: It may be, but worth an investment. This the end

1087
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: of this schedule is brutal with Clemson, Syracuse, Florida State,

1088
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Pittsburgh. It's not easy. But I mean, up

1089
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: until then, they've got their chance to at least get

1090
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: to six wins. There's a lot of things about this

1091
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: team that I do.

1092
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 3: Not like whatsoever.

1093
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: Even though you know they have their workhorse running back

1094
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: and their quarterback is you know, mobile, there are they

1095
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: just weren't good at running the ball. I mean, they

1096
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: were one hundred and tenth and rushing S and p

1097
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: plus they were one hundred and second and stuff right,

1098
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: they can't control the line of scrimmage. They're not efficient

1099
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: in moving the chains. They're really not that explosive either.

1100
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: They were fifty ninth and rushing explosiveness. But you would

1101
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: think would be a little bit better with a running

1102
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: back like AJ Dillon or you know, with Anthony Brown

1103
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: probably you know, averaging five point nine yards per carry.

1104
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: So you know, there's a lot of things about the

1105
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: offense that I'm just not comfortable with. They went to

1106
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: the hurry up, no huddle. It didn't improve them whatsoever.

1107
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: Their success rate was still one hundred and tenth last year.

1108
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you can go hurry up, no huddle all

1109
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: you want, but really all we see is you know,

1110
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: passing out to the flats and passes that are like

1111
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: three yards long. That doesn't move the chains either. So

1112
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: you know, the defense was a positive aspect for the

1113
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: Eagles last season, but they have a returning production rank

1114
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: of one hundred and twenty eight, so you kind of

1115
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: wipe their stats off the board. You're getting a whole

1116
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: new set of defensive players. If they do not get

1117
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: to six wins, I would say, you know, by the

1118
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: time they start that second half of the season, it's

1119
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: not going to happen. So if you can shop around,

1120
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: you can find a six.

1121
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: And a half. The under is the way you look.

1122
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: One thing that you mentioned was the offensive line play

1123
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: was disappointing last year. Given they were returning everybody. They

1124
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: do have two promising transfers coming in who should they

1125
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: should be able to plug right in. So maybe the

1126
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: losses along the offensive line and with these transfers coming

1127
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: in is a plus. And if Anthony Brown can take

1128
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: a step forward at quarterback, that's the hope with BC.

1129
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: But would I would tend to agree with you. Six

1130
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: is spot on. If you can find a six and

1131
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: a half, I would lean under as well. All right,

1132
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: let's move on to wake Forest. This win totals right

1133
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: at six again. Another six in the acc column. You

1134
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 2: make this six point two. Before we move on with

1135
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: wake let's take a moment of silence for Greg Dortch.

1136
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: We will no longer talk about and I think that

1137
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 2: we should for the last time, played that Greg Dortch,

1138
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: Cliff said.

1139
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: The most electrifying player in college football. Guess who Greg Derch?

1140
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: Understand? Greg Dortch is a big play guy, doors beats

1141
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: the putter around the middle. It's Dorch and he's done

1142
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: touchdown the magition that hasn't done it again. Greg Dorch

1143
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: is something else.

1144
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: Don't forget about Greg Dorch.

1145
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 3: Oh.

1146
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: So Greg Dortch obviously one of the podcast favorite players

1147
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: last year, one of Wake Forest's best offensive players and

1148
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: return man. He's gone along with Bachman. So the two

1149
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: best receivers are gone. This team's gonna play fast, super fast.

1150
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: One of the fastest teams in the country last year.

1151
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: There is a quarterback battle. I don't know who is

1152
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: a head right now between Newman and Hartman, So their

1153
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 2: play will determine a lot of where this offense goes,

1154
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: as long as who emerges at wide receiver. I think

1155
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: six is just completely spot on. I mean, you make

1156
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: it six point two. I make it actually six flack.

1157
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: And even if you look at the schedule and project

1158
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: the spreads two wins, you can feel confident in two

1159
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: losses that they're gonna have. You know, they're at Clemson

1160
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 2: at vah Tech, probably gonna lose. They're at Rice, who's

1161
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: just dreadful, They're home against Elon, and then they have

1162
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 2: eight games which will probably be within a single digit spread.

1163
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: Split them even if you wanted to do it that way.

1164
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: Six wins. I mean, this is just looks like it's

1165
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: going to be a six win team. Thoughts on wake.

1166
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything under would be a disappointment. Anything over would

1167
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: be a Coach of the Year candidate going on down there.

1168
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: So you're right about wake Forest. The quarterback battle. You know,

1169
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: a year ago we were talking about Kendall Hinton and

1170
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: his suspension. We thought Kenda Hinton was going to be

1171
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 1: a guy at quarterback, and then it was Sam Harton

1172
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: and Jamie Newman. The entire way leaving Kendall Hinton to

1173
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: get eight attempts at throwing the ball, and I think

1174
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: that was when they just lined up in a funcky formation.

1175
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 1: So you know, there's a lot of things about wake

1176
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: Forest that you know, running back cade Carney returns, the

1177
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: rushing attack was just one hundred and third explosive. This

1178
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: last season, over half the games on the deepn Deacon

1179
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: schedules project to have a point spread within a touchdown,

1180
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: So there's just a lot of room or for volatility here.

1181
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: I mean there was there's.

1182
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: Games last year where we would have coin flip scenarios

1183
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: in the point spread and then they would have a

1184
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: twenty one point loss to Florida State. They'd beat Louisville

1185
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: by twenty one, they would lose to pit by twenty one, they.

1186
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 3: Beat Duke by fifty two.

1187
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: You have to realize that, like all these games had

1188
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: really minimal point spreads. So if you're trying to cap

1189
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: wake Forest, I mean you'll tear your hair out trying

1190
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: to figure these guys out because there's no rhythm. It's

1191
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: like when you're capping golf. You're trying to get a

1192
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: player's recent form and his course history, and you know

1193
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: how he does, you know, with his strokes, gained all

1194
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: that and try to match it up like a puzzle piece.

1195
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: When you do that with wake Forest and all their

1196
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: advanced stats, it doesn't mean anything.

1197
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: When you're beaten Duke by fifty two. It's up and

1198
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 3: down and up and down like a cryptocurrency.

1199
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: Yup. I'll completely agree with you. I think it's stay

1200
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 2: away and like a lot of the teams in the ACC,

1201
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: it's you know where, We're going to find out a

1202
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: lot about them. They'll be better spots in the year.

1203
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: No need to tie up your money before we close

1204
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: out with Florida State and the quick Heisman talk and

1205
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: recap our favorite ACC Wind Total. Let's talk Louisville. A

1206
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 2: lot of change in Louisville as well, just like North

1207
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: Carolina new head coach and there Scott Sadderfield from app State.

1208
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 2: There's a quarterback battle Malie Cunningham, Juwan Pass a freshman

1209
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: Evan Conley in the mix. Look, the Wind totals three

1210
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: and a half, which I think is a sharp window.

1211
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: I was hoping for three and one of the bety

1212
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 2: over you make it three point four. Their offensive line

1213
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: was so bad, I mean everything about this team was

1214
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 2: so bad in twenty eighteen the books couldn't catch up.

1215
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: But I mean their offense line is so bad. They

1216
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: loft forty three sacks that was the second highest in

1217
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 2: all the FBS. Oregon State allowed forty eight. Just atrocious.

1218
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: They have a new defensive coordinator, it's their fourth and

1219
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: four years their defense was also atrocious. But they do

1220
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: bring everyone back. Then they add a Colgate transfer. You know,

1221
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 2: I love Colgate. TJ. Hall is transferring in the play

1222
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: linebacker could be their best player. And they got rid

1223
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: of Brian Van Gorder, who is just a joke a

1224
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. So, but the thing is with this team

1225
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: is I think that they quit last year and it

1226
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: was evident in their games they did just day stop trying.

1227
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: There are tons of penalties and there was just no effort.

1228
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 2: It was just an absolute dumpster fire. So I think

1229
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: the biggest improvement for Sadderfield, which is going to have

1230
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: right away, just an attitude improvement and an effort level bump.

1231
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: And you know this team is you know, if you

1232
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: look at just they're gonna be a double digit dog

1233
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: probably and probably six games double digit favorite. Only one

1234
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 2: and that's Sex Week two against Eastern Kentucky at home,

1235
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: so you know that, and then that leaves about five

1236
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: games where there'll be a single digit underdog or a

1237
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: single digit favorite. So the schedule isn't easy. But and

1238
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: I think three and a half is spot on. Again.

1239
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: Like I said, I wanted to buy loan this seam

1240
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 2: at three, which I was hoping for. But I think

1241
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: this team is going to be a team to play on,

1242
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: especially earlier in the year Week one against Notre Dame.

1243
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be a live dog. I

1244
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: think the effort level, the attitude, the defense, all coming

1245
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: back getting rid of Van Gorder, the Colgate transfer. I

1246
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna be buying on this team early in

1247
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: the year, but not necessarily in the wind to which

1248
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: I think is spot on. What are your thoughts on

1249
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: the bill?

1250
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: You're gonna get the voicemails fired up already with all

1251
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: this Coldgate talk Colgate transfers. But now, I mean, so Louisville.

1252
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: They're in the software world. In the software nerd world,

1253
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: we call this a fit gap analysis, and what that

1254
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: means is I have inherited an entire You want to

1255
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: call it a problem, You just want to call it

1256
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: a landscape or a culture, and I've got to look

1257
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: at where my goals are. I've got to see where

1258
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: the delta is. Do these players fit? Does this scheme fit?

1259
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: Can they grasp the the playbook that I want to

1260
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: get to? They got an A plus higher from you know,

1261
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: getting Scott Satterfields, you know, you and c passing up

1262
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: North Carolina native Scott Saderfield from Appalation State was a

1263
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: mistake in my opinion, and Louisville is the benefit of that.

1264
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: So you know, he dominated the sun Belt for years

1265
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: at Appalachian State.

1266
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: But to just accentuate about how bad these guys were,

1267
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean they were one and eleven against the spread

1268
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: last season and they failed to cover the spread by

1269
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: an average of eighteen points per game. That was ten

1270
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: points worse, ten points worse than the next closest team.

1271
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean, so when I say fit gap analysis, do

1272
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: these players have skill or did they just not have effort?

1273
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean we're just in a I mean,

1274
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: Sadderfield has got to have a huge fact finding through

1275
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: this camp coming up here, because we just don't know

1276
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: if it's talent based, we don't know if it's effort based,

1277
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: if it's a Patrino. I hate you, Bobby Patrino. Base

1278
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty eighth in defensive success rate. The

1279
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: offense was one hundred and second in the same category.

1280
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: So people ask me all the time.

1281
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 3: I get a lot of.

1282
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: Requests about how do you do your power ratings? How

1283
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: do you adjust your power ratings, especially in the off season,

1284
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: and one of those is power rating regression to the meme.

1285
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: What that means is is a program usually is steady

1286
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: around a certain mark. They don't usually veer off too far.

1287
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: They don't go too far up. What goes up come

1288
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: down to take the case of Notre Dame a few

1289
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: years ago going four and eight.

1290
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: Just because they went.

1291
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: Four and eight doesn't mean that you start their you know,

1292
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: power rating off, you know, eight or ten points less

1293
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: than what it was the year before.

1294
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: But generally you'll be back at the same level.

1295
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: Right, So they got three point they got a three

1296
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: point boost for me just in PR regression alone. So

1297
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if that's enough. I think I

1298
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: think Stuck's exactly right. I think there's going to be

1299
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: a lot of effort here. I think Saderfield will be

1300
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: quick to cut people and get them out of the

1301
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: program if they show any of the crap that was

1302
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: going on last year. So yeah, high effort. Well, that

1303
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: translates talent on the field and covering games. We will

1304
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: be watching. If they are a covering team that the

1305
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: market's gonna have a problem catch it up to, we'll

1306
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 1: be on them early.

1307
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 3: And that's the way to play them.

1308
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure going at it from a season long

1309
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: perspective is a way to do it.

1310
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: Yep, completely agree with you. All right, So let's move

1311
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: on to the last team in the ACC, and that's

1312
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 2: Florida State. Speaking of disasters, in twenty eighteen, Florida State

1313
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: was a train wreck, first losing season since nineteen seventy six.

1314
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 2: Their bowl streak ended at thirty six consecutive, had five

1315
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 2: losses by three touchdowns or more. Five Florida State we're

1316
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: talking about. I mean, everything was bad. The special teams

1317
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 2: was horrible. They fired these special teams coordinator. Their defense

1318
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: was atrocious. They do bring a lot back, but their

1319
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 2: defense was really bad. And the worst part of their

1320
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: game of all was their offensive line. They out thirty

1321
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 2: six sacks. They were you know, look, they have talent

1322
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: at the skill positions. You know, cam Akers at running

1323
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: back is coming back, although depth is a question. They

1324
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: have talented wide receiver and don't look no further than

1325
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: last year. They were sixth in explosiveness in one hundred

1326
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: and twenty first and success rate. Their offensive line was

1327
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: just terrible and it's gonna make or break their offense

1328
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 2: as well as the quarterback position. You know, they have

1329
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: James Blackman. Francoise gone, so James Blackman is back, He's

1330
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: had his struggles. They have Hornybrookly transferred in from Wisconsin.

1331
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: Then you have two red shirt freshmen and transfers, Wyatt

1332
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: Rector from Western Michigan and the kid from Louisville who

1333
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: both of them, I don't know if I have gotten

1334
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: their waivers cleared or if they're gonna play this year.

1335
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: So I think it's gonna be between Blackmen and Horneybook.

1336
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: Probably Blackmen's start. They have a new offensive coordinator in

1337
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: there and Kendall Briles. They were also really on discipline,

1338
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: just like Louisville. I mean, Florida had nine point two

1339
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: penalties per game. That's worse than FBS. Louisville was third

1340
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: most at eight and a half touchdown plus record. If

1341
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: they should have six games where they're touchdown more. Favorite

1342
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: win total seven and a half. You make it right

1343
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: at seven and a half. I think it's dead on

1344
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 2: at seven and a half. You know they're at UVA

1345
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 2: at Wake home against Miami. Those games are going to

1346
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: go a long way and determining how successful this team

1347
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 2: is and their win total, as well as that first

1348
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: game against Boise at home. So you know, I think

1349
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: this win total is spot on. It's a really interesting

1350
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: team and to see how they bounce back under Willie Tagger.

1351
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the knoles.

1352
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'll be real quick with the defense because

1353
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: Harlan Barnett is he was a defensive coordinator at Michigan

1354
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: State for a number of years and he was highly

1355
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: successful there. I think he had his scheme is the

1356
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: first year of these players. Last year to be in

1357
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: the scheme, they were top thirty against the run, they

1358
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: were top fifty against the pass, and they were nineteenth

1359
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: in opponent completion percentage. I expect all of those to

1360
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: continue to rise. It's going to be a stingy, mean defense.

1361
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: Their problem is is they were one hundred and thirtieth

1362
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: in field position. They were last in the nation, and

1363
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: where the defense started off in field position, that's not

1364
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: their fault. That's all off and punning. Yeah, that's the

1365
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: offensive punning. The offensive punning from the ten yard line

1366
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: the twenty yard line every time. So the defense, you

1367
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: could see that if we could just start at the

1368
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: offensive line and work our way through the skill positions,

1369
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: it's going to greatly benefit the defense too.

1370
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 3: So I mean, they're just.

1371
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: Like a few fixes and efficient play away. I think

1372
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: from returning to what we think Florida stated is. So

1373
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: let's get into it why I love this team so much.

1374
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: If you haven't been, it's the Action Network. To read

1375
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: the article, you can go in and take a look

1376
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: at Kendall Brile's I have a nice little lef in

1377
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: there that shows what he has done at programs, what

1378
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: they were before he got there, what they've been after

1379
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: he've left. So Baylor twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, what they've

1380
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: been offensively since he left Florida Atlantic, what they were

1381
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: the year before, and what they were last year. Offensively,

1382
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: they were nothing compared to what they were in twenty seventeen.

1383
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: Houston's twenty eighteen numbers were significantly worse before he got there.

1384
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: So he's the offense whisper. Kindle Briles is the offense whisper.

1385
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: He's the coordinator, the hired hand you want to get

1386
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: to bring in. He's going to find out a way

1387
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: to work with this offensive line, which was one hundred

1388
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: and twenty fifth and stuff rate. This is Florida State,

1389
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: this is a recruiting national power, and they were one

1390
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty fifth in stuff rate. Stuff rate is

1391
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: can you get the two yards when you need them

1392
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: in or yarder situations? And that I mean, they were

1393
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: one of the worst in the nation, which is pretty

1394
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: unbelievable for a program like them. So I don't know

1395
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: if Kendall Briles is going to get them on an

1396
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: eating program.

1397
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's.

1398
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: Gonna get them some dancing lessons to work on their footwork.

1399
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,479
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's going on, But the offensive line

1400
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: has to.

1401
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 3: Improve at that number.

1402
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: You know, he's going to look for a quarterback to

1403
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: bring some efficiency to an offense that was eleventh in

1404
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: big plays in twenty eighteen. I think that's the biggest

1405
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: thing that surprised me last year is they had an

1406
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: ISOPPP rating that was over one point three, which put

1407
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: them really high, so they could bust out big plays.

1408
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: They just weren't affish at all, couldn't move the chains.

1409
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: They've got seven offensive linemen who had starts last year.

1410
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: They bring those guys back if they can put anything

1411
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: together whatsoever. And Hornerbrooker James Blackman can have some decent

1412
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: efficient quarterback play. You're going to see massive improvements on

1413
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. So I like Kendll I'm

1414
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: putting my faith in Kendall Briles when I say this

1415
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: is an overteam and this is something they could make

1416
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: some waves.

1417
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 3: Can they play Clemson? You know?

1418
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 1: Can they be Clemson? No, absolutely not. It's a joke,

1419
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: but they can make some waves.

1420
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, and you're gonna have that spot against Miami's circled.

1421
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: So that'll wrap up the Atlantic Clemson Conference. Let's finish

1422
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: up here with some three and out, which we do

1423
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: during the season. Let's make it a quick three and out,

1424
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 2: all right, So three quick questions here, including we'll finish

1425
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: up with our favorite win totals, but acc coastal all

1426
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: three teams about two to one, depending on where you

1427
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: look to win it. Miami, Virginia, Virginia Tech who do

1428
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: you got, I'll start. I go Miami, Man. I love

1429
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: this defense. They play voptech at home off of bye.

1430
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: I have questions about Virginia's offensive execution. I do love

1431
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: the defense, but given the Miami schedule, I think it's

1432
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 2: gonna be Miami Clemson in the ACC Championship. I love

1433
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: those linebackers. So I'm going to Miami. You're not, I

1434
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: take it.

1435
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1436
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Wildcard. I'm gonna go with Pitt. I'm

1437
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: gonna say wow. Like I said, they could get thrashed

1438
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: in the month of September. They could lose that game

1439
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: to Virginia and then those seven games. They have a

1440
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: great schedule in those seven games and Mark Whipplett offensive

1441
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: cord In should have the offense going. Can't you pickt

1442
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: They can already rush the ball and Mark Whipple's going

1443
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: to increase to passing by the time they get to

1444
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: those seven ACC games towards October. And not to mention, yeah,

1445
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: they lost four offensive linemen, but they're going to have

1446
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: everybody identified and everybody's gonna have experience by the time.

1447
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 3: October rolls around. I'm gonna roll with Pitt for the Coastal.

1448
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: Shocking going with Keet. I did not see that coming.

1449
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: Depending on where you look, you can get pit around

1450
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen to one at some places to win the Coastal.

1451
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: But I'm rolling with Miami two to one. I think

1452
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 2: they get it done with the schedule. I'm getting votech

1453
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 2: at home after a bye is just just a massive advantage.

1454
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 2: So Miami and Pitt there heisman. Rice will make this quick.

1455
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: Probably won't be betting the Heisman, but if I do,

1456
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: or did have to take a shot, yeah, I mean

1457
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: it's just I mean, Trevor Lawrence and two are about

1458
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 2: three to one. Maybe I would look at Justin Herbert

1459
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 2: and that's the way that I would invest in the

1460
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 2: ceiling of Oregon. You know, if everything goes right, that

1461
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: offensive line is one of the best in the nation.

1462
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: If the receivers, you know, Juwan Johnson, the com Pittman

1463
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 2: comes in as a stud. If their drop issues are

1464
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: removed from last year, they actually can catch balls this year,

1465
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 2: and everything works out in the schedule and they beat Auburn.

1466
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: You know, he has a quarterback and he will have

1467
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: some hype, especially they win that Auburn game. So I'll

1468
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: say herbrid round twenty to one, but you're gonna roll

1469
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 2: with the Trevor at three to one.

1470
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you guys can go to the Action

1471
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: Network and get the Heisman piece out there, there's some

1472
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,439
Speaker 1: great stats and some great grafts in there about backing

1473
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: up the reason why I do like Trevor to win

1474
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: the Heisman over to it. But I also identify a

1475
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: couple other quarterbacks that are some long range odds that

1476
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: are possibly worth some value and that should I mean,

1477
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: they have a great chance to make it to New

1478
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: York too, So you guys can check out that piece.

1479
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: But just to be short with it, I think Trevor's

1480
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: gonna win the Heisman because he's gonna get a schedule

1481
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: of Boston College fcs NC State Wake for South Carolina,

1482
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: and then he gets the winner of the Coastal, which

1483
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: he absolutely has the perfect platform scheduling wise, to throw

1484
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: to Justin Ross, to throw to t Higgins, to throw

1485
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: to Amari Rodgers.

1486
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 3: I mean, it's an amazing offense.

1487
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: And when you think about the fact that the defense

1488
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: may take actually a couple steps back, I mean a

1489
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: little bit and a little bit of steps back, that

1490
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: could equal more snaps for Trevor Lawrence. That's what's made

1491
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: the difference for Kyler Murray last year is the number

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Speaker 1: of snaps that he had over Tua. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: too real quick. Tua may only play the first half

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Speaker 1: of games. Tua is already hurt right now. He's got

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Speaker 1: to rip up hamstring and didn't participate in the Manning

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Speaker 1: Passing Academy. Tua ends his schedule with Mississippi State, Auburn, LSU,

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Speaker 1: and potentially Georgia the week before the ceremony. That is

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Speaker 1: some of the toughest pass defenses for him to go

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Speaker 1: up against, and I think it's going to be his

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Speaker 1: downfall fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, make sure you check out that piece. I'll tweet

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Speaker 2: that out. And let's finish up with our favorite wind

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Speaker 2: totals the ACC. Look, I said it before, I'll start

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Speaker 2: with mine. I think there's a lot of sharp wind

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01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: totals in ACC. And it's just a tough conference to

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01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: cap because there's so many teams outside of Clemson that

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01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: are so close. So there's a ton of coin flip

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Speaker 2: games that you might as well not lock up your

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01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: money and wait until the season starts. However, there are

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Speaker 2: a couple that do stick out to me that I

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Speaker 2: might be investigated. So I think DUKENZ State, Virginia b C.

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Speaker 2: Pitt Wait, Clemson, Florida State, and Louisville all look about

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Speaker 2: right the unders that I would look at UNC and

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. Just with all of the changes and the

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01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 2: coordinators and the different systems, I think there's a lot

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01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 2: that can go wrong. And then Syracuse, I just think

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01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,479
Speaker 2: that it's too high here and the love from last

1518
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: year is carrying over with that schedule quarterback change. It's

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Speaker 2: just I don't think everything is going to go as

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01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: right with Syracuse. Who We'll have that special teams that

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01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: give him an edge, but I think it's too high

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01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: for them. And then the overs sounds really square. But

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Speaker 2: I like Virginia Tech in Miami is the only two

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01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 2: overlooks in the ACC. Both schedules are very favorable. I

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Speaker 2: think they, you know, just if they win the games

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Speaker 2: they should, they should get the nine wins with chances

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Speaker 2: at upsets. I think both defenses are going to be good.

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01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: I think VAT Tech's defense is going to bounce back.

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01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 2: Miami's defense is excellent, and I think we talked about

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01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: that regression to the mean. I think you're going to

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01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: see that with Virginia Tech. I think Miami gets them

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Speaker 2: in Miami and wins that game. But I like, actually

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Speaker 2: like both overs with bout Tech and Miami getting to

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Speaker 2: nine wins. How about your favorite? Accy went to, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: We're doing the listeners some justice here because we're all

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Speaker 1: We've got almost every team ac compassed here with some

1538
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Speaker 1: sort of total. I'm saying BC under six and a half.

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01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: There are six and a half's out there, shop fort

1540
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Speaker 1: and get it, because I think six would be a push.

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01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: That's tough sledding for them with the back end of

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Speaker 1: that schedule. Florida State over all the way, I made

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Speaker 1: a comment in an article about them having playoff odds

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Speaker 1: of seventy five to one, it's not outrageous that we

1545
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: can go ten and one. I just want to get

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Speaker 1: it on the record that yes, they'll leave.

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Speaker 2: With who's going to the playoff? James Blackman or Alex

1548
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Speaker 2: morning Bro.

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01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: Listen a year ago we were talking about Wisconsin with

1550
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: Alex Hornerberg going to the playoff.

1551
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Speaker 2: We don't talk about that. We talk about this.

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Speaker 3: Just hear me out.

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01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: We could be ten and one in some sort of

1554
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: bizarro world Florida State, if they figured out on the

1555
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: offensive line, and if Kendall Brows can work as magic,

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01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: there's no reason they can't take advantage of a.

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Speaker 3: Very very weak ACC. Now they're going to lose the

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Speaker 3: Clemson game, Yeah, but they could be.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying they could be ten and one going

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Speaker 1: into the Florida game. If you get extra ten dollars

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Speaker 1: and you don't get guacamole on your Chipotle, maybe you

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Speaker 1: want to think about it.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, Florida State.

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Speaker 1: Over their win total, pit over the win total pit

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Speaker 1: for the Coastal and then I'm gonna leave everybody with this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you should buy Clemson ACC futures minus

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01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: five hundred outrageous, minus seven hundred outrageous. If you parlay

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01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: up their expected money lines, which will be anywhere from

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Speaker 1: minus nine hundred, it's a minus twelve hundred, maybe even

1570
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Speaker 1: higher with some of the some of the worst teams

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Speaker 1: in the ACC. If you parlay all of their games

1572
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Speaker 1: up within conference, it comes out somewhere around minus.

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Speaker 3: Three fifty to minus three seventy five.

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Speaker 1: So the number out there is outrageous. Don't invest long

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01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: term in something that's completely overpriced. I see no chance

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01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: in the world that it doesn't win. But I mean,

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01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: you just don't want to buy something that is completely

1578
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: has no value and is overpriced.

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Speaker 2: Yep, completely with you. I mean you could get that

1580
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 2: price in the AEC championship game. Yeah, six seven hundred,

1581
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 2: depending on who they play and how well they've been playing.

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01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: All right, So there you have it, Colin projecting Florida

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01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 2: State to the college football Playoffs. No and pit so

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01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 2: Florida Florida's or pit So wait, you're gonna have Florida

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01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 2: Florida State pit ACC Championship. Is that what we're hearing here?

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01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just gonna take seminals all the way. We'll

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01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: rewind the clock back to the big ACC Origibowl days.

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01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 2: There you have it, So Florida State pit ACC Championship

1589
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 2: game for Projection. Hot off the press from Colin. I'm

1590
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 2: saying I'm going more reasonable route Clemson over Miami. But

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Speaker 2: thanks for listening. Thanks for joining me, Colin, and if

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Speaker 2: you have an already rate and review unsubscribed, subscribe you

1593
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 2: know the deal. We'll have a wrap up episode of

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01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 2: all of our favorite wind totals for every conference and

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01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 2: all of our futures as well, and then looks we'll

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Speaker 2: be talking week zero. We'll be talking Miami and Florida,

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Speaker 2: so I can't wait for that. Thanks again for listening

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Speaker 2: and we'll catch you all later. Cheers, peace up,