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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody. Welcome to Move the Sticks DJ here.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode is one that we do each and every year.

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Speaker 2: It is the conference call that I have with the

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Speaker 2: media ahead of the Combine. We're just fielding a lot

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Speaker 2: of different questions draft related. It's one of the It's

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Speaker 2: actually one of my favorite days of the year because

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Speaker 2: it really is like a kickoff of draft season with

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Speaker 2: all the different topics that get presented. So we clip

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Speaker 2: off a chunk of it for you here on the show,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I encourage you to check out the combine.

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Speaker 2: It is right around the corner. This is just a

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Speaker 2: little primer for you. So here's a portion of my

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Speaker 2: media conference call.

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Speaker 3: Our first question comes from Nate Davis with USA Today.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna ask obviously, started with the quarterbacks. Seems

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Speaker 4: like Caleb is kind of the number number one guy

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Speaker 4: regardless of who might take him. But just looking at

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Speaker 4: the back of the past couple of years, just kind

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Speaker 4: of wanted to get your thoughts on maybe him versus

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Speaker 4: the field kind of given particularly how last year played

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Speaker 4: out and some others.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a it's a good question. This is

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a it's a good quarterback draft hate

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Speaker 2: Caleb to means the top guy, and when you look

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Speaker 2: at him specifically and his evaluation, try and stack him

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Speaker 2: up with guys from the past. I think just talent,

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Speaker 2: if we're just looking at just pure talent, you can

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Speaker 2: put him up there with really any of the guys

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Speaker 2: we've had, just in terms of you know, arm strength, athleticism,

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Speaker 2: the creativity he has, the playmaking ability that he has.

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Speaker 2: Now he's not as he's clean or as polished as

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Speaker 2: some guys we've had over the last few years. Obviously

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Speaker 2: Stroud was kind of ready made and just came out

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Speaker 2: there and hit the ground running. I think there's still,

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Speaker 2: you know, some more growth and some cleaning up to

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Speaker 2: do with Caleb's game, But talent wise, it's it's pretty special.

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Speaker 2: I've you know, I've made the comment about him and

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Speaker 2: you're going to have Patrick Mahomes's name come up, and look,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to can here's somebody the best player

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Speaker 2: on the planet. But just in terms of how he

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Speaker 2: kind of plays with the creativity and a low flare

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Speaker 2: and in all the different types of throws he can

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Speaker 2: make in terms of driving the ball, layering the ball,

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Speaker 2: extending plays, all those things. There are some similarities there.

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Speaker 2: Pat needed some time to clean some things up and

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Speaker 2: got a chance to sit for a year. Obviously, I

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Speaker 2: don't think Caleb's going to be afforded the same luxury

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Speaker 2: in that department, but I think you can, you know,

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Speaker 2: put a plan in place where you put more on

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Speaker 2: his plate the longer that he goes. But at my

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Speaker 2: home situation at Texas Tech, I thought was very similar

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Speaker 2: to caleb situation at USC. I think people have to

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Speaker 2: get it out of their head, you know, comparing you know,

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Speaker 2: Caleb and Heaven. In your mind, this is like the

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Speaker 2: Matt Lioner at Reggie Bush USC days. Those days are

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Speaker 2: long gone. Pat's last year at Texas Tech they were

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty eighth and scoring defense. This year

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Speaker 2: USC was one hundred and twenty first, So he was

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Speaker 2: this year. But you know, one of the numbers on him,

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Speaker 2: the other one is he lost eight games at USC.

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Speaker 2: They gave up an average forty three points in those games.

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Speaker 2: He was twelve and zero when they managed to allow

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Speaker 2: quarterback when you're chasing points like that constantly. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Our next question because of Justin Rogers with the Detroit News.

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Speaker 5: Danielle wanted to get your thoughts on the possible edge barket.

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Speaker 5: You know, the end of the first round emulation to

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Speaker 5: Detroit lines obviously needs someone to compliment Hutchinson with some

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Speaker 5: You know, he's been a popular pick to the line

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Speaker 5: some of these early projections. Is there no pass rush

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Speaker 5: been getting since the Senior Bowlers, This evaluation more on

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Speaker 2: No, I think there's pass rush there. You know, he's

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Speaker 2: You know, Cam Jordan's the name that you throw around

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Speaker 2: more than likely. And I think that's you know, he's worthy.

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Speaker 2: He's got the ability to go in that range. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Our next question comes from he Orlando Ledbetter with the

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Speaker 3: Atlanta Journal Constitution.

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Speaker 6: What's your assessment on brock Bowers. I listened to your

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Speaker 6: podcast yesterday but to get a feel for it. But

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's tough. He's easy to grade. I mean, when

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Speaker 2: speed wise, I think is gonna be very is going

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Speaker 2: to favor Kittle. You know, when you look at him.

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Speaker 2: But similar size, similar speed, plays with just tenacity, especially

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Speaker 2: you know, it's just you're still dependent on the position

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Speaker 3: Our next question comes from Ryan Dunleedy with the New

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Speaker 7: We wanted to ask Giants specific I know in your

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Speaker 7: to get Jadeen Daniels or one of the top quarterbacks,

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Speaker 7: how likely is it the Giants would have to trade

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Speaker 7: up from six and how urgent do you view them

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Speaker 7: getting one of these top quarterbacks versus addressing the busy

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Speaker 7: later given the Daniel Jones situation and what I've heard

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned next year because that's something when

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Speaker 2: I talk to guys around the league that they've done

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Speaker 2: seem to be as much excitement at this point in

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Speaker 2: that there's a little bit of a premium you have

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Speaker 2: this year, you're talking about your second round pick thirty

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Speaker 2: they have and get that done. So I would not

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Speaker 2: rule that out. I know you've got one more year

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Speaker 2: that would be very much in play. Thank you.

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Speaker 8: Hey, DJ, you mentioned the offensive tackles at the top

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Speaker 8: jet related question at number ten. How do the top

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they're all different flavors. They're all really talented.

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Speaker 2: When you look at that top group of guys, really,

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Speaker 2: I would say you're talking about Alt, Fashanu, Fuaga, Latham.

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Speaker 2: I would think those are, you know, pretty unanimous, whatever

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Speaker 2: It's not you know, he's not the most dynamic athlete.

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Speaker 2: He's not an elite elite vendor, but he doesn't get

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Speaker 2: and got bold and moved around a little bit. But really,

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Speaker 2: you know, on the whole, I think his tape's pretty

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Speaker 2: play on the right. Fuaga is a really really clean

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Speaker 2: move him. I think he's plug and play is the

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Speaker 2: right time. He could play guard if you needed him to.

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Speaker 2: But just really consistent, quick feet, really explosive and dynamic

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Speaker 2: plays with good temperament, So that to me is like

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Speaker 2: the plug and play. He's got a home at right

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Speaker 10: Athletic obviously with Washington at too, a lot of questions

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Speaker 11: Thanks so much, Daniel. I cover Michigan football, and I

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Speaker 12: Hi, DJ, thanks so much for doing this. When we

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Speaker 2: That's a great question. I think. I was talking to

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Speaker 2: And that's been something I think people have given more

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Speaker 13: Hey, DJ, I wanted to ask about just the big

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I'm sure we'll get to Rome and

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Speaker 2: You know you talked about Fatanu. He's my sixteenth player, Penix.

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Speaker 14: Covered the Broncos and recently Sean Payton said the number

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's darn near impossible. You know, you

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Speaker 9: Questions about the Cardinals at number four and the receiver situation. Obviously,

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Speaker 9: one of the tackles.

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Speaker 2: I would take? I would take one of the white outs. Personally,

435
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Speaker 2: I think I think if you just look purely off

436
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Speaker 2: of grade and not you know, positional value. I tweet

437
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Speaker 2: this out the other day. I think you could make

438
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Speaker 2: a case the three highest graded players in this draft

439
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 2: are those three receivers. They are outstanding. I think they're

440
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Speaker 2: all going to be number one guys where they go.

441
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 2: So you get different flavors. You know, with Marvin, you

442
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 2: kind of get, you know, the big power forward. Who

443
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 2: can you know, who's got some really good quickness for

444
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,679
Speaker 2: a big guy and really tracks of all extremely well.

445
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 2: Uh Dundas is going to be two hundred close to

446
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty pounds. I think you're going to

447
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 2: see him run in the low four fours and who's

448
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: got unbelievable tracks, skills to go up and get it

449
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 2: and combat catches physical Like if you're in Arizona and

450
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 2: you see him, I think you'll see similarities to Fitzgerald

451
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 2: just in terms of how he attacks the ball and

452
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 2: goes and gets it and then Neighbors is just like

453
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 2: a stick of dynamite. I mean, he's super, super explosive.

454
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 2: Just get the ball in his hands and let him go.

455
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 2: I think there's more to him in terms of our

456
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 2: rout runner. I think he'll get more opportunities to show

457
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 2: that at the next level. But he is ultra ultra explosive.

458
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,719
Speaker 2: So to me, I think you need some firepower. If

459
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: you're the Arizona Cardinals, you need some guys who can

460
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,239
Speaker 2: go get it and go make plays when you look

461
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Speaker 2: at it. I was pulling up their numbers here at

462
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 2: twenty sixth and passing yards per game, twenty fourth and

463
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Speaker 2: points per game. Let's get some firepower. I'd love any

464
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Speaker 2: of those three guys.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Next question comes from Jordan rodrigj.

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Speaker 11: Thanks for doing this every year.

468
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Speaker 15: So generous to do that with us. I appreciate that

469
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Speaker 15: kind of asking More broadly here, when you have scouted

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Speaker 15: or talked with scouts who have evaluated left handed quarterbacks,

471
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Speaker 15: whether it's college level or in the NFL, is there

472
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Speaker 15: anything that sticks out in those conversations that scouts have

473
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Speaker 15: to do differently in the visual part of study, And

474
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Speaker 15: is there anything you see offenses do to turn sort

475
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Speaker 15: of that visual anomaly into a schematic advantage.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great question. I've never been asked that

477
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Speaker 2: question for Jordan the uh. You know, one of the

478
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Speaker 2: things we've always said is that like with left handed quarterbacks,

479
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 2: you have to be patient with with when you bring

480
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Speaker 2: them in. You have to be patient with your receivers

481
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: just because of the adjustment it's going to take just

482
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Speaker 2: with the spin, so you'll have some drops. It's a

483
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 2: little bit unusual for the white outs to get used

484
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Speaker 2: to it, but you know, it doesn't take too long

485
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Speaker 2: and then you can you can be good there. I

486
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Speaker 2: would say from a schematic advantage, you know, I would say,

487
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 2: you know, it just depends on on some teams. Are

488
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Speaker 2: some quarterbacks are really really comfortable booting to their natural hand,

489
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Speaker 2: so to the right side, most right hand quarterbacks, they're

490
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Speaker 2: going to be able to deliver the ball in more areas,

491
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Speaker 2: more locations when they're going to their natural side, as

492
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Speaker 2: opposed to some guys going left. You got to really

493
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Speaker 2: crank your shoulders around, and then some guys actually aren't

494
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Speaker 2: comfortable unless they flip. So I would imagine that if

495
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Speaker 2: you have a left handed quarterback, it just maybe opens

496
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Speaker 2: up that other side of the field where most defenses

497
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 2: are kind of accustomed to seeing that go one way.

498
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Speaker 2: It can kind of mess with your eyes a little bit.

499
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Speaker 2: If you were going to be able to boot left

500
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Speaker 2: a little bit more than you would to the right,

501
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Speaker 2: so that would be off the top of my head.

502
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: You know. One of the things with the we think

503
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Speaker 2: about Penix this year is a left handed quarterback. It's

504
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 2: he's unique because he's a little high cut and he

505
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: has a like a three quarter arm slot delivery. So

506
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: not only is left handed, looks a little bit different.

507
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: Now were the ball's coming out and he kind of

508
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: hangs on his back foot, it just it It looks unusual,

509
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 2: but it's it's really really snappy and whipping the ball

510
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: jumps out of his hand. But I think it kind

511
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Speaker 2: of takes a well tojust your eyes when you're watching it.

512
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Speaker 11: Thanks DJ.

513
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Speaker 3: Next question comes from Howard asking Howard, you may ask

514
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Speaker 3: you a question.

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Speaker 16: It's just a specific question to the Eagles. For for

516
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 16: the Eagles, uh, they need a linebacker among other things

517
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 16: on defense clearly, and the people in Philadelphia are enamored

518
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 16: with Jeremiah Trotter for obvious reasons, because it's because it's

519
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 16: it's that obviously played here. Where do you project him?

520
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Speaker 16: And I saw your mock draft and it doesn't have

521
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Speaker 16: him in your in your first round. How good is

522
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Speaker 16: he and where do you project him? And what do

523
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Speaker 16: you think the Eagles will do with that pick in

524
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Speaker 16: the first round.

525
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Speaker 2: Yeah, does Mike Schmid's kid have a kid come to

526
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: the baseball draft here too? Can we to solve all

527
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: all the problems in the whole city here? To me?

528
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: To me, he's look, he's a good player. I don't

529
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Speaker 2: think he's a first round pick. I'm curious to see

530
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Speaker 2: how fast he's gonna run. His game is more about

531
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: things which obviously are very crucial and very important at

532
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: the linebacker spot. But you know, when I watched him,

533
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: he's a little bit undersized, He's got really good eyes.

534
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: He'll you know, he he sifts and sorts and he'll

535
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: fill physical. He can thut off blocks, which you don't

536
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: see a lot of guys take on. I just thought

537
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: the speed in the range was just kind of so so.

538
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: So if he if he runs well, yeah, and then

539
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: I think he can really help himself. I think he's

540
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: more where I have more in the third round personally.

541
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: But shoot, he goes out there and moves around really well,

542
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: and and uh it kind of aces the rest of

543
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: the tests here. I think you'll find his way into

544
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Speaker 2: potentially into the second round and the linebacker draft. That's

545
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 2: really it's not a great off the ball linebacker draft and.

546
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Speaker 16: The Eagles first round pick as you project.

547
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Speaker 2: Oh Eagles first round pick before free agency, Howard, Let's uh.

548
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I think when you look at

549
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: what's gonna be there, I think the value is probably

550
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: going to be at the corner position. I think there'll

551
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: be some good corners there. So I think I haven't

552
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: taken real straw from from Missouri to me. I would.

553
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: I would love it if somehow you can get Quennon Mitchell,

554
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: but I think he's he's probably after the Senior Bowl

555
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 2: and the tape that he's put out, he's probably gonna

556
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: be long gone. All right, let's take a quick break

557
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: and we'll be back right after this.

558
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 3: Our next question comes from Eric Smith.

559
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: Hey, DJ, thanks for doing this.

560
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 3: With the Chargers at five, it seems like they could

561
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: have some option there.

562
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 17: But what's the scenario you see where they could actually

563
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 17: trade down from that button?

564
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think if you're the Chargers and you want

565
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: to trade down, you're praying that the fourth quarterback emerges

566
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 2: from now to the draft. You know, I think when

567
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: it's all said and downe it feels like it to

568
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: me that you're going to have the three quarterbacks go one, two, three,

569
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: you know, when we get down to it, whether that's

570
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: with you know, New England taking one or either them

571
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: or Washington trading out somebody coming up, But it just

572
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 2: feels to me, you know, talking to people around Lake,

573
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: that seems to be the expectation. So if you're looking

574
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Speaker 2: at who you're going to trade for, well, I don't

575
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: think you know. Because there's those three top receivers, I

576
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: don't know that anybody's coming up for one of those guys.

577
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: The tackle depth is really good, So even though you've

578
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: got players worthy of trading up for, there's so many

579
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: of them that I don't think that would be the case.

580
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 2: I think you're rooting for J. J. McCarthy. You know,

581
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: you're looking for McCarthy to meet Bonix. You need another quarterback,

582
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: and if another quarterback can merge us through the process,

583
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: then you're looking at kind of that sixth pick with

584
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: the Giants, the eighth pick with the Falcons, those viewed

585
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: as quarterback potential teams, then they'd be sitting in a

586
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: pretty good spot for somebody trying to come up, which

587
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: would be pretty nuts if for the first five picks

588
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: for quarterbacks. But I don't think it's out of the

589
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 2: realm of possibility.

590
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Speaker 3: Next question comes from Michael middlehurs Sworts with the USA Today.

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Speaker 18: I wanted to get your take on what you think

592
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Speaker 18: about how this quarterback class measures up in terms of

593
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 18: depth for starting caliber guys. If you can't get Caleb

594
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 18: Williams and you're a team in that range of Commanders

595
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 18: to Broncos or Raiders and you have to supposedly settle,

596
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 18: how confident can you be in finding a high quality

597
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 18: starter from the next level of guys from May down

598
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 18: to maybe later options like Bononix and Michael Pennox.

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00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, I really think that Bonnix

600
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 2: is going to be a starter pretty early on. I

601
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: catch the guys started sixty one games, played really well

602
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: last year. He's accurate, he makes good decisions, you know.

603
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: You know, people can talk about the ceiling upside. I

604
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: think his arms a little bit lighter than that. Maybe

605
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 2: give him credit for he just executed the offense as

606
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: it was designed there. And I know some people get

607
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: hung up on what happened with him at Auburn, and

608
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: it's like, man, you know, we've seen so many examples

609
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks shining at their second spot, and I actually

610
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: think you know him and Panics. Both those guys going

611
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: through adversity and their first stop I think is good

612
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: for him wherever they land. But yeah, I know, I

613
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: think I think there's those six guys. I think, are

614
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: you know, have starting potential. So I think there's you know,

615
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't you know where If you have a guy

616
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: you think he's the twenty eighth player on your board,

617
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: the twenty seventh player on your board, and you're picking

618
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,239
Speaker 2: twelve or fourteen and you need a quarterback, it's very

619
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: easy to talk yourself into that.

620
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Andrew Callahan with the Busts and heralding.

621
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Speaker 2: Hey, DJ, it's good to speak with you. Thanks is

622
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: always for taking the time.

623
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Speaker 19: I know we're asking you a lot about evaluating players here,

624
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 19: but I wonder if you could give a scouting report

625
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 19: on an executive, Elliott Woolf taking over in New England.

626
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: What do you know about what he values, what his.

627
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 19: Process is like with the Green Bay background, and how

628
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 19: do you see the Patriots philosophy changing under his leadership.

629
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't know him personally. Well, we

630
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: were scouting on the West Coast together a million years

631
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: ago gosh, it's probably been twenty years now. So you

632
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: always watch people, scouts, we know, you all kind of

633
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: know who everybody is, and you pay attention. He was

634
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: always some way that worked hard. Obviously, when you have

635
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: the family history that he does, it have been easy

636
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: to maybe try and coast a cruise. He never did that.

637
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: He started at the bottom, he worked his way up.

638
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: He kind of grinded through it. In terms of how

639
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: it can change, I would say the Patriots were maybe

640
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: one of the more niche drafting teams in the league

641
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: where they catch you off guard a little bit because

642
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: it was so obsessed with fit that they might take

643
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: a guy two or three rounds before anybody else in

644
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: the league would take them. And they don't really care

645
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: because they're just winning trophies every year. So they could

646
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: be a little bit outside the lines, a little outside

647
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: the norm with some of that stuff. I don't think

648
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: Elliott will do that. I think you look at the

649
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Speaker 2: Green Bay history, you know some of the track record there.

650
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: You look at offensive linemen that are versatile. You look

651
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: at wide receivers who have kick return background that are

652
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: really really good after the catch. You know, those are

653
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: some of the traits that just jump out to me

654
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: from the from the Packers and the way they've done

655
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: things forever, and how he would have been trained up

656
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: just you know, from his dad. So I think those

657
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: would be a couple of the changes.

658
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: Next question because from Mike Kay, Hey, DJ, thanks for

659
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: doing this.

660
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 17: I'm just curious. I know Drake Mays your second quarterback

661
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 17: and fourth over prospect, but what can he do during

662
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 17: this draft journey to maybe solidify that stance.

663
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: In terms of Drake solidifying it or helping himself for

664
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: the process, you know, one of the things with him,

665
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: well two things. I'll give you one thing physically and

666
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: then another thing he can do. But the one thing physically,

667
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: and I know in talking to his quarterback coach David Morris,

668
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: who does a really good job. You know, I thought

669
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: there were times this year compared to last year, he

670
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: got a little elongated, a little long with his delivery.

671
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: I know they've been working on that. So that would

672
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: be the physical thing. I'm looking forward to seeing whether

673
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: that's at the combine or his pro day, just seeing

674
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: if he's been able to tighten that up a little bit.

675
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: And then the second thing is going to be just

676
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: meeting with teams. I think it'll be helpful for him

677
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: to explain some things because when I watch the tape,

678
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: I have questions of just man, he gets a lot

679
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: of unblocked pressures and there doesn't seem to be answers,

680
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: whether that's, you know, a hot route, whether that in

681
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: terms of what they're doing protection wise to help him out.

682
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: That's something when you're watching tape. I'm watching it. Go man,

683
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: I would love to sit down with him and kind

684
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: of go through this and say, what, you know, have

685
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: they did they give you the answers?

686
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 11: Here?

687
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: Is this something you could have done? Here is this

688
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: something on the outside that wasn't corrected.

689
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 9: I don't know.

690
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: I just feel like there's a lot of times where

691
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm watching him with pressure in his face and I

692
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: freeze it and I'm like, I don't know where the

693
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: heck he's supposed to go with this thing. So that'll

694
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: be something that he can help himself just by being

695
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: able to go through that tape and explain it to teams.

696
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: But the ability, you know, the size, the arms, strength,

697
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: the athleticism, the playmaking stuff, that's all, it's all there.

698
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Dave Briquette with the Detroit Free Press.

699
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: Hey DJ, good to see as always.

700
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: I asked this just because it's a copycat league.

701
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 20: But you know, the Lions were maybe a little bit

702
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 20: unconventional last year, going running back, linebacker, tight end, safety,

703
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 20: early positions down the pecking order, and.

704
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: All those guys had pretty pretty good rookie years.

705
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 20: What impact, if any, do you think that could have

706
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 20: another teams or decision makers, like, will there be a

707
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 20: Lion's effect where teams say, you know, screw the positional

708
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 20: value or traits or whatever. And I'm just you know,

709
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 20: what matters is what I'm getting now out of the draft.

710
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: I'll I might surprise you with this answer. I don't

711
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: think there's going to be any any copycat here because well,

712
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: I think we've focused so much on them, you know,

713
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: taking those you know, quote unquote non value positions, but

714
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 2: we've ignored the fact that, yeah, when you built, when

715
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: you've already built the foundation, then you can go do that.

716
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that draft was successful because of what

717
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: they did, what Brad and those guys did previously to

718
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: build up the line of scrimmage on both sides. You know,

719
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: they had the quarterback in place. They hit on a

720
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: home run on the wide receiver, so the expensive premium positions,

721
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: they'd already built the foundations that freed them up. It's

722
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: a huge advantage over the rest of the league. Where

723
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: you can take you know, the running back, you can

724
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: you know, obviously a tight end hits a home run,

725
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: you can take off the ball, linebacker, you you can

726
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: do those things once the foundation is built. I still

727
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: think personally the right thing to do is to build

728
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: the foundation and then you can go do what the

729
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: Lions did last year. But I'm not so certain that

730
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: as great as those players were, it was awesome that

731
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: you would have seen them flourish and shine as much

732
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: as they did if they didn't have the quarterback in

733
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: place and the offense and the defensive line of place.

734
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Arnie Stapleton with the Associated Press.

735
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 21: I wanted to now that we've hit full throttle, so

736
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 21: to speak, on the transfer portal in college. I'm curious

737
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 21: it used to be that if a player had multiple schools,

738
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 21: multiple coaches, it was red flag for the talent evaluators,

739
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 21: and wondering is that diminished entirely? And then secondly, does

740
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 21: the nil sort of give talent evaluators another inflection point.

741
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 21: You can kind of see how a kid met a

742
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 21: handle fame and fortune before they even get to the pros.

743
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's good sides to it. I think

744
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: you brought up a great point there at the end

745
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: one of the you know, there's two things. If you

746
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: look at players that you miss on, I know you

747
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: always I always go back. There's always plenty to choose

748
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: from the guys that I missed on over the years

749
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: and try and self scout and when you talk to

750
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: teams and get information on maybe why it didn't work out.

751
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: Two things happen a lot are they don't know, they

752
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 2: don't know how to handle adversity, and then other thing

753
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: is sometimes they don't know how to handle you know, money, fame,

754
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: all all that kind of stuff that goes along with it,

755
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: all the distractions that money can can bring. So now

756
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: you're getting a chance to, uh to see them in

757
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: that situation basically be a professional before they even get

758
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: to you, and see how they how they handle themselves.

759
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: So I think that can that can be a plus.

760
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: The transfer thing in terms of impacting guys in grades, No,

761
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: I mean that that's it's not really an issue anymore.

762
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: I know Once upon a time you could say, oh

763
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: I didn't work out here or there. It would come

764
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: up in draft meetings. But I mean, I'm getting to

765
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: the point now where I'm old enough to remember when

766
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: I first started in three that I remember discussions in

767
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: the draft from about a player having tattoos, and I

768
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: think about how silly that is when we fast were

769
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: twenty years ago. So yeah, some things become less and

770
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: less important and nobody really cares about the transfer thing anymore.

771
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 3: Next question, because from James Crapia with The Oregonian.

772
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 9: Thanks Danael.

773
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 22: Wanted to get your perspective on a couple of the

774
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 22: underclassmen for the Ducks who are in this draft, and

775
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 22: Troy Franklin and Jackson Powers. Johnson obviously was terrific as

776
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 22: a starter this year, but just had the one year

777
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 22: as a starter. You saw that you had them in

778
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 22: their top fifty. For you, what do you see from

779
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 22: those two guys?

780
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun, fun guys to study. And with Franklin, look,

781
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 2: I gave him a good grade to my first listings

782
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: my thirty ninth player. I liked them a lot, but

783
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 2: I think I'll end up coming up on him because

784
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: I just finished you know, going through all these guys

785
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: for the combine, and I saw a lot of corners

786
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: with a lot of blood on their hands. Courtesy of Franklin.

787
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 2: I mean, he just runs by everybody so big time,

788
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: big time juice, tall, lean, explosive, he can beat press

789
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: with his quickness. He's cleaning out of rakes for a

790
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: for a taller guy. It's just it is. It's fun

791
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: to watch him really track the ball and go get it.

792
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: A big time home run hitter. So I think he's

793
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: I think he'll go twenties to thirties. He's gonna he's

794
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: gonna go somewhere in there. I expect he'll probably run really

795
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: fast and Indie, we look at the center Jackson powers Johnson.

796
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 2: It's hard to find guys that big that can move

797
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 2: like that. You know, three hundred and thirty four pounds.

798
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: You can't get through him. He just kind of catches

799
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: guys and absorbs them and pass pro He's quick to

800
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: the second level. He's really good on combo blocks. He's

801
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: got some nasty to him. He's a bulldog, got some realpe,

802
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: some snap and some pop in his hands. He was

803
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: having a great week until he got nicked up at

804
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl too, So you know, I think he's

805
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna find his way into the to

806
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: the bottom portion of the first round. He's too clean

807
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 2: of a player, and it's just somebody that can anchor

808
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: your offensive line for the next decade.

809
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 3: Next question comes from E. J. Smith with the Philadelphia Inquire. EJ,

810
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: you may ask your question.

811
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 23: Hey, Jay, appreciate you doing this. As always, the Eagles

812
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 23: going to the offseason pretty sparse at running back. Who

813
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 23: are some of the guys potentially on Day two that

814
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 23: you maybe think could like at least come in, like

815
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 23: as a featured role type of type type of back.

816
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Day two is the is going to

817
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: be the running back day. I'm curious to see. I'm

818
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: i have a little bit of a theory here because

819
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: I've got about six to eight running backs that are

820
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: very closely crated. I don't have any of them up

821
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: to where we had Bijon or Gibbs last year, like

822
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 2: with with those types of grades, but six to eight

823
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: really solid players. I wonder if we're going to see

824
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: a game of chicken in the second round where teams

825
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: are saying, well, we've got the grade to take this

826
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 2: guy here, but we don't want to be the first

827
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: one in line. We just need to make sure we're

828
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 2: not the last one in line. So does that push

829
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: the running backs down? Maybe we could get to you know,

830
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: the bottom of the second maybe even the top of

831
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: the third round. And then once the first one goes,

832
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: I think you'll see all these guys come off the board.

833
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: But some of the names, you know, Jonathan Brook's coming

834
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: off injury from Texas, He's he's talented as any of

835
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: these guys. My two favorites are Jalen Right from Tennessee,

836
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: who's just real springy and juicy, you know, stop start, quickness,

837
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: home run, hitter, finishes runs, he can get skinny through

838
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: the whole really really quick feet. He's two hundred and

839
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: ten pounds, so he's got a little bit of size

840
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: to him, enough size to him, but he's probably the fastest,

841
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: the most explosive of all these guys. And then Marshawn

842
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: Lloyd from SC two hundred and seventeen pounds reminded me

843
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: ironically of DeAndre Swift that was my comp form, but patient,

844
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: he's explosive. I think he'll run really well in Indianapolis

845
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: as well. Kind of an aggressive attacking and running style.

846
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: But those are two of my favorites, along with a

847
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: little bit undersized version there. Bucky Irving, who reminds me

848
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: of Devin Singletary. Ultra quick, full speed, change of direction stuff,

849
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: very elusive. He caught fifty eight balls too, so good

850
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 2: in the past game. So those are my three favorite

851
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: guys just in terms of watching him. Ray Davis from

852
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 2: Kentucky estimated from Notre Dame, Braylan Allen from Wisconsin, Trade Benson.

853
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: Those guys are all in that mix together.

854
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Jonathan Alexander with the Houston Chronicle.

855
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 24: I'm curious, as I'm sure you've talked to, like many

856
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 24: people around the league, I'm curious why you felt like,

857
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 24: looking back, so many people had Bryce Young number one

858
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 24: over CJ.

859
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: Stroud considering the years.

860
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: I know a lot of factors involved in the years.

861
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 24: That they had, But what do you feel like people

862
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 24: were kind of low on CJ. Stroud And do you

863
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 24: feel like at all what happened will kind of change

864
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 24: the perspective of teams as they evaluate these quarterbacks.

865
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, to me, it's hard. It's hard to uh,

866
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: it's hard to figure it out. Every year. You can

867
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: say some years it's a smaller guy that's better, other

868
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: years the bigger guy. Some years it's a big school guy.

869
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: Some years it just it changes all the time. But

870
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: with CJ, you know, I knew he was a really

871
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: gifted thrower. Like just the combine last year, I said,

872
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: it was as good a COMBA session as I've ever

873
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: seen it from a quarterback. Always on balance, every type

874
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: of throw, always using the amount of pace on the

875
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: ball that's necessary, not more, not less. It just he

876
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: was he was outstanding as a thrower. I thought with him,

877
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: you know, prior to the Georgia game, it was okay, well,

878
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: can he create is you know he's kind of a

879
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: stationary guy. Can he create uses athleticism? And then the

880
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: Georgia game showed you in that game absolutely he could

881
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: do that. But then outside of that, I to be

882
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: able to play as fast as he has is I

883
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 2: don't know that I've ever seen a rookie come in

884
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: and see everything so clearly and play with just ultimate confidence.

885
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: I've never you know, I don't know that I've seen

886
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: a rookie do that and trusting what he sees like that.

887
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: So he to me, I don't know if if if

888
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: anybody could predict it, it would be that good, that fast.

889
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: So that was you know, congrats to the Texans. They

890
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: hit an absolute home run. And then with br hey,

891
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: let's be let's be a little bit patient here. I

892
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: know it didn't look good last year. But with quarterbacks,

893
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 2: you think about the things you'd love to have in place.

894
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: We always talk about the three p's. You know, you

895
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: want protection, you want playmakers, and you want a play caller. Well,

896
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: he had a bunch of different play callers. His protection

897
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: wasn't very good, and they don't have much in terms

898
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: of playmakers. So let's let's let some some improvements take

899
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: place in Carolina before we cast him off. So I'm still,

900
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: you know, bullish on him and excited to see him

901
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: get a little bit better opportunity.

902
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Adam Beasley.

903
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 2: J How you doing man? Good byte?

904
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 25: So I wanted to ask you about the Dolphins are

905
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 25: twenty one. I see you have an edge rusher for them.

906
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 25: What's your philosophy? I'm taking them in the twenties. You're

907
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 25: not going to have obviously the clearest prospects you had

908
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 25: earlier in the draft. Would you go with a solid

909
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 25: just plug and play type or would you look for

910
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 25: upside in that range.

911
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: Well, to me, you're the You're the Miami Dolphins. You

912
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: were right in the smack dab in the middle of

913
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: your window. So yeah, man, to me, you can look

914
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: at upside. You know, guys that are ready right now.

915
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 2: I would probably look you know, I always think about

916
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: what Ozen used to used to always say, let's just

917
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: hit doubles in the first round, they'll strike out. I

918
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: think I'm in the Miami Dolphins. I want somebody to

919
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: come in and can help me that I, you know,

920
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: feel as a rock solid player ready to roll right now.

921
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: That would be, you know, kind of the area that

922
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: I'd be leaning to if you have a choice between

923
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: player A player B. I might be a little more

924
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: conscious of the floor just you know, just personally where

925
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,479
Speaker 2: they are, and a lot of times those high floor

926
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: picks end up being really, really good players.

927
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Antoine Staley.

928
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 26: Hey, DJ, I want to ask you about the Jets

929
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 26: and just kind of day two what they're looking at.

930
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 26: Obviously they don't have a second round pick due to

931
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 26: Aaron Rodgers, but just the potential target she might see

932
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 26: for them because they need wide receiver help, maybe some safety,

933
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 26: defensive tackle, and maybe some depth on the offensive line too.

934
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 9: Yeah.

935
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I look, everybody's talking about Jets. Do you

936
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: go wide out? Do you go tackle? With that first pick?

937
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: I know one thing, if you can get the tackle,

938
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 2: I feel a lot better about the third round wideouts

939
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: than I do about the route the third round tackle.

940
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: So that to me would make that I would lean

941
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: more in that tackle direction early. Because in the third

942
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: round you got some really really interesting guys. You know,

943
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: Malachi Corley from Western Kentucky's got you know, big time juice,

944
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: big time run after catch stuff. He is a is

945
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: a total stud. You've got Roman Wilson from Michigan who

946
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: can fly. Talked about him a little earlier. Ricky Piersoll

947
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: from Florida, who's just a real loose, fluid, excellent route runner,

948
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: and you know, got some insane catches they won't Agains Charlotte,

949
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: he might have the catch of the year of all

950
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: these guys in the draft. His catching Charlotte's ridiculous, but

951
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: real quick, real fast, and can make some things happen

952
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 2: after the catch. I can go on. I mean, there's

953
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of wide receivers. Every year we do this,

954
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 2: every year we talk about this. It's a really really

955
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: intriguing mix of white outs. So in the tackle whiteout discussion,

956
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: I think if it's close, you go tackle early. He

957
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: can come back for the white out safeties in that

958
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: third round range. You know, you've got Javon Bullard from Georgia,

959
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 2: good player. We'll see what happens with with Jayden Hicks

960
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: from Washington State. If he runs well, he'll he'll probably

961
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: be gone by then. But you also have like Malik

962
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: Mustaffa from from Wake Forest, Take Smith from Georgia. There's

963
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: some interesting guys, some interesting safeties. I don't think it's

964
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 2: a great safety class. I don't think we even have one.

965
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: Uh you know, maybe maybe Nuban goes in the top

966
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: fifty from Minnesota in the second round. Back man, we

967
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: might not have a safety in the top fifty picks

968
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: as possible.

969
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Matthew Paris at The Times picking

970
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 3: you and Matt you may ask.

971
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 27: You a question, Hey, DJ, just going back to the tackles,

972
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 27: what do you think makes a good like day one

973
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 27: starter at tackle and with the Saints, you know, missing

974
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 27: on maybe Trevor Penning with Latham, is there any concern

975
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 27: they are given the what you mentioned earlier with kind

976
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 27: of his eyes, and it'said that he might not be

977
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 27: a day one starter at tackle.

978
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: Gosh, you know in terms of you know pin specifically,

979
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: you know he was he was so over aggressive, and

980
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: I think sometimes you struggle with guys like that where

981
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: the over aggressiveness itself can get you in trouble and

982
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: then you get inside your own head and you're trying

983
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: to pull back and now you're you're laid on things.

984
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: So now he was kind of a tricky one there.

985
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: But you know, I with offensive tackles, you start with

986
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: the feet. You know, do you have the feet can

987
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: get yourself out of a out of a bad situation?

988
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 2: In other words, can you know you get beat? Can

989
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 2: you recover enough to stay attached, whether that's inside, whether

990
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: that's outside. You know that type of you know that,

991
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: that type of athleticism and footwork is kind of like

992
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: the baseline. If you can't do that, you probably can't

993
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: play it. Can't hold up there. But the other thing is,

994
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 2: you know and can you can you really sit down?

995
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: Can you can you can you hold your own against power?

996
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: Because in the NFL you're going to see power rushers

997
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: every week. And then your eyes, as you mentioned, you know,

998
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: and are you able to see things clearly? Especially now,

999
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: I think you're going to see even more of it

1000
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: with the you know, kind of the complexity in the

1001
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: college game of the Michigan defense, the complexity of the

1002
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: Ravens defense. In the NFL, everybody's copying those schemes, which

1003
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: really really challenges the eyes and the communication of the

1004
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: offensive line. So those, you know, those skills I think

1005
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 2: are probably gonna be even more important issue than they've

1006
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: been in the past.

1007
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Tom Krasovich with the San Diego

1008
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 3: Union reviewing Daniel.

1009
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 28: When you look at Michael Pennix's playoff games, you know,

1010
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 28: against Texas, he has so many beautiful throws, and then

1011
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 28: we saw hit him against Michigan like a different guy.

1012
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 28: If you could break down those two evaluations from an

1013
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 28: NFL perspective and how it would affect you if you

1014
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 28: were one of those teams looking for a quarterback.

1015
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, the semifinal game was awesome. I mean,

1016
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: he moved around better in the pocket than I had

1017
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: seen him previously, which was good to see. I mean,

1018
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: he threw some speeds in that game, just you know,

1019
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: backfoot in or he just kind of hangs on his

1020
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: back foot and the ball jumps out of his hand.

1021
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: But I, you know, I think, to me, he's he's

1022
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: outstanding on over the top kind of those those touch

1023
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: throws down the field, deep ball throwers beautiful. He can

1024
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: really drive the ball, especially the perimeter. I thought that

1025
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: the thing that showed up in the in the championship

1026
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: game or one, they hit the stuffing out of him,

1027
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: so they got to him. I thought that kind of

1028
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: rattled him a little bit. From that standpoint, I didn't

1029
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: think the pocket movement was, you know, as good as

1030
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: we saw in the previous game. And then I think he,

1031
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: you know, the throw that I want to see from

1032
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: him is just that kind of up and down throw.

1033
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: Can you get it up and over and get it down,

1034
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: which requires a lot of touch and a lot of feel.

1035
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: You know, that's something that's not really his strength. So

1036
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: those would be the you know, the different examples of

1037
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: those two games. But from a scouting standpoint, I think

1038
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: you're looking at saying, Okay, how do you if you're

1039
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: going to take him, how do we put an offense

1040
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: around him that makes sense and it fits him. And

1041
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: you know, hey, i'd want an offense with a lot

1042
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: of drive throws you get under center, play action, driving backs,

1043
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: pushing the ball vertically down the field. I think he

1044
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: goes to a team with a really good run game.

1045
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: I think, you know, off of play action in a

1046
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: vertical passing game is probably going to be his best fit.

1047
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Ben Villin with the Boston Globe.

1048
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 29: Hey, Dan, thanks to much for doing this today. Great

1049
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 29: to hear from you. Curious but curious about the Patriots

1050
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 29: at number three. Seems like a tricky decision because of

1051
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 29: the wealth of options that they have. If you're the Patriots,

1052
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 29: you just take whichever quarterback falls to you, or do

1053
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 29: you really consider Marvin Harrison or one of the wide receivers.

1054
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: You know, I think obviously you know, they'll do their

1055
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: homework and all the different options there. To me, it

1056
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: would be tough to pass on a quarterback. Just you know,

1057
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: you're not guaranteed to be up here. Again, there's no

1058
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: guarantee of what future years, what it looks like at

1059
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: the position. I think you've got, You've got three guys

1060
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: that are worthy of consideration there. I just I go

1061
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: back to it. I think we might even have talked

1062
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: about this personally, but just being in that stadium last year,

1063
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: it was kind of I didn't recognize it. Obviously the

1064
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: team wasn't wasn't good, but there's been so much energy

1065
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: and juice in that building every other time I've been

1066
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: in there, and it was just so flat and it

1067
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 2: was it wasn't a it wasn't just a bad team,

1068
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: was a boring team. Like there's just no juice, no

1069
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 2: excitement whatsoever. And I look at whether you know whichever

1070
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: one's there, if it's any of those top three quarterbacks,

1071
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: those guys that bring so much energy and life to

1072
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: your to your franchise, it just feels right. You've got

1073
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: new leadership in place. It's kind of like this whole new,

1074
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: whole new chapter for the New England Patriots. So theyre

1075
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: thirtieth in yards per game, tied for last, and points

1076
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: per game. I love Marvin Harrison Junior. I love him.

1077
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: He is a great player, but it would be hard

1078
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: with where their positioned at that put where they're set

1079
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: up right now with that position to pass on quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Thanks man.

1081
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 3: Next question comes from Q Myers. Q. You may ask

1082
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: you a question DJ.

1083
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: With that being said about the Patriots in there at

1084
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: number three, if they chose to trade back in a

1085
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: team that the Raiders that's in there at thirteen try

1086
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: to make that huge move all the way up there,

1087
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: what would that cause?

1088
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: All right, I think I've got that for you. We

1089
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 2: ran the numbers on some of these trades. Four oh,

1090
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 2: this would be this would be the Raiders. Let's see here. Yeah,

1091
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: the Raiders go up to three. So here's your cost

1092
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: for the Raiders to go up to three. It would

1093
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: be the thirteenth overall pick. It would be your first

1094
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 2: round pick and third round pick in twenty five, and

1095
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: your first round pick in twenty six. So yeah, not cheap.

1096
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: A couple ones, well, thirteenth this year and then two

1097
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: more so, three total ones as well as a third

1098
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: round pick. Which, man, if you love a quarterback and

1099
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: he can be your guy for the next decade plus,

1100
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 2: you know I could I could get behind. That's we'll

1101
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 2: talk about this at the combine on the coverage when

1102
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: we do some of these quarterback chats. The track record

1103
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: of the quarterbacks that got traded up for has not

1104
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: been good. There's usually a reason why teams are willing

1105
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: to move off that spot, and that hasn't traditionally voted

1106
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: very well for the teams. That regressive coming up for guys.

1107
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: So one thing to keep in mind. Man, if you

1108
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: love it and it's a bold move, but I don't

1109
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: know who their quarterback is right now, So if they

1110
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 2: don't land somebody in free agency, maybe that even makes them,

1111
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: it makes them more inclined to go do that. You

1112
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 2: also have the you know, you have the Antonio Pierce

1113
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: connection with Jadan Daniels at Arizona State, so I'm sure

1114
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: they'll know him extremely well. All right, Well, there you go.

1115
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: There you have it. That was my conference call, always

1116
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: a long one, but do always enjoy getting a chance

1117
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 2: to chop it up with the media. As we head

1118
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: towards Indianapolis, I want to remind you the Combine kicks

1119
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 2: off Thursday, February twenty ninth with defensive Linement at linebackers.

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Speaker 2: That is at three pm Eastern on NFL Network and

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Speaker 2: on NFL Plus. And we will be here with move

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Speaker 2: the sticks coming your way here shortly, we'll have we'll

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Speaker 2: have Combine reaction, have all the news the scuttle buck

1124
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Speaker 2: coming out of Indianapolis, and we have all your draft

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00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: needs covered right here, so appreciate you hanging with us

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Speaker 2: and we'll see you next time on move the sticks.