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Speaker 1: the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back? Moved the Sticks DJ, Bucky, We're back after

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Speaker 1: what do you think buck? A month? We had a

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Speaker 1: month break. We took a little break, a little sabbatical.

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Speaker 1: I took well, look I took a break. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you took a break. Man. You've been hitting these

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Speaker 1: high school camps all over the place, all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Get a chance to see these guys, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: this weekend I got invited to this. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks do you lead? Eleven finals are here

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Speaker 1: in l A Down and Redondo Beach. You get a

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Speaker 1: chance to see the stars of tomorrow. It should be

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Speaker 1: a great opportunity to kind of get an early track on.

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Speaker 1: So this is Rodondo Beach High School, right, You're down

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Speaker 1: to Union High school and is it nice. Yeah, yogis

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Speaker 1: to me, He's like, you gotta come down here and

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Speaker 1: watch this. Yeah, now you need to come down like

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Speaker 1: it's it's a great opportunity for me. Um. It's I've

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Speaker 1: been doing it like four or five years, had opportunity

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Speaker 1: to watch the Josh Rosens and Hackenberg's and Goss and

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Speaker 1: all those other guys kind of come through the pipeline.

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Speaker 1: And what it does. It gives you kind of the

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Speaker 1: early look at what they are. So when you look

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Speaker 1: probably a little more safe and security evaluation on them.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the things that I'm not really

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Speaker 1: proud of. I we always talk about Buck, but I

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Speaker 1: recruiting lists and the top five guys, the five star

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Speaker 1: ultimately don't play or pan out or for whatever reason

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Speaker 1: if they kind of fall off the radar, why not

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Speaker 1: bring those guys in as undrafted free agents. You never know,

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Speaker 1: How about some of those guys you don't go to

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of different ones. I just think I

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Speaker 1: just think it's fun. I think it's fun to kind

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Speaker 1: and you know that ultimately when they come up, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to talk about them in some capacity. All right,

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Speaker 1: some of the stuff I want to get into today, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna look at position by position in this last draft,

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Speaker 1: started working on next year's draft. This is way ahead

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Speaker 1: great experience. Maybe you know, put him closer. I don't

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Speaker 1: secondary needed some help. Obviously, Cincinnati with a j. Green

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Speaker 1: what he brings the table, but they had some attricition

431
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Speaker 1: there at the wide receiver position. Cleveland, anybody really scary

432
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Speaker 1: at the white your position, Baltimore, Steve Smith coming off

433
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Speaker 1: in Achilles, Bishop Paramou, we don't know what you're getting there.

434
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think when you look at

435
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Speaker 1: at Eli Apple some of the weapons that the Washington

436
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Speaker 1: is gonna throw at him. Obviously Dez Bryant and company there,

437
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Speaker 1: and you know Philadelphia Eagles. I know it's not the

438
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Speaker 1: big name guys that they have, but Jorge Matthews nice player.

439
00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,239
Speaker 1: I'll say they need him to play well. And I

440
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Speaker 1: like Eli Apple a little bit better as a player.

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Speaker 1: So I'll say eli Apple. It's a long answer. There, No,

442
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Speaker 1: that's a long answer. That's fine, But I'm actually going

443
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Speaker 1: to agree with you. I think eli Apple is better

444
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Speaker 1: position to have probably a better year than already Burns.

445
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Speaker 1: And part of it is he's gonna be the nickel

446
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Speaker 1: I think he goes in knowing that he's going to

447
00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,119
Speaker 1: be the nickel corner. He can focus all of his

448
00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,040
Speaker 1: efforts on being the best third corner on the field.

449
00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,480
Speaker 1: He can look and the thing about the nickel corner

450
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Speaker 1: to a couple of different ways that you can do it.

451
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Speaker 1: You can put him in and he may not have

452
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Speaker 1: to go on the slot. Maybe generas Jenkin goes in

453
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Speaker 1: the slot, you move him the right corner, you can

454
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Speaker 1: put him on the back side, or they could always

455
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Speaker 1: match him up on the third best receiver depending on

456
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Speaker 1: if they're playing man, and his ability to be able

457
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Speaker 1: to either learn man or his own from multiple spots.

458
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Speaker 1: So I think he's positioning and behind a pass first

459
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Speaker 1: that I think he's going to be dramatically better. I

460
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Speaker 1: think he has a pretty solid for the Giants. All Right,

461
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Speaker 1: this is an interesting one for you here. Defensive end,

462
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go both, so we know Shaq Lawson

463
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Speaker 1: has got the injury, divorced Buck Naragua. I'm gonna give

464
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Speaker 1: you two names here, Noah Spence with Tampa hearing good things,

465
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Speaker 1: or Karl Nassi with the Cleveland Browns, who has a

466
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Speaker 1: bigger year now numbers wise. I think Noah Spence has

467
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Speaker 1: a bigger year from a contribution standpoint. I think Karl

468
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Speaker 1: Nassip is a guy that could really helped him because

469
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Speaker 1: he's not playing what we thought he would play on

470
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Speaker 1: the outside. They're kicking him down inside. He's more of

471
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Speaker 1: a long five technique, doing some of the stuff that

472
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Speaker 1: maybe a Calais Campbell would do. So he's gonna occupy blocks.

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Speaker 1: He may give them kind of that inside pass rusher,

474
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Speaker 1: but he's going to be one of those blue collar

475
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Speaker 1: workers that allows other guys to eat. And I'm also

476
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Speaker 1: hearing really good things about Emmanuel Agua and what he's

477
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Speaker 1: what he's being able to do in O t A

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Speaker 1: so far. Yeah, So they've got Nassive and Agua there

479
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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Be fascinating to watch these these address. I

480
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Speaker 1: don't know that we're gonna see anybody. I'm not confident

481
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Speaker 1: we're gonna anybody go double digits out of this group.

482
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Speaker 1: I think eight to ten type. And I think if

483
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Speaker 1: you're Noah Spence and you're the Tampa by Buccaneers, if

484
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Speaker 1: he's able to give you eight to ten s actually

485
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Speaker 1: certainly happy and satisfied with what he brings to the table. Uh.

486
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Speaker 1: You know, the draft is funny because so long we

487
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Speaker 1: studied these guys or whatever, and as to run up

488
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Speaker 1: to the draft, were poking holes in him. And sometimes

489
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Speaker 1: we forget how good players are. But this guy was

490
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Speaker 1: nearly unblockable at the senior ball. And so when you

491
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Speaker 1: go back and you look at what he was and past,

492
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Speaker 1: he was a very, very very talented player. Guy that

493
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Speaker 1: was very productive. If Tampa can get that same guy

494
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Speaker 1: that was on the field down in Mobile, he's going

495
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Speaker 1: to be a guy that is really really a headache.

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Speaker 1: All right, what we got next? Defensive All right? So

497
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Speaker 1: we go defensive tackle and so Sheldon Rankins is is

498
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Speaker 1: kind of easy to talk about. But I'm gonna go again, guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna go packed back. How about Robert

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Speaker 1: kim Dici in Arizona and Vernon Butler in Carolina. I'm

501
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Speaker 1: gonna go kim Dchi just because they need him in there,

502
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Vernon Butler, that's still a pretty stacked group,

503
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Speaker 1: and they're all axious to see how they employ him.

504
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's versatile, you can move him

505
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Speaker 1: around a little bit. Um. He'll never see a double

506
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: team never ever, ever, ever, ever ever ever, But Kim

507
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Speaker 1: d getting to play in there, I think you'll see

508
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Speaker 1: him in the mix a little bit more. And putting

509
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Speaker 1: him next to Campbell man, I like that. I like

510
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Speaker 1: that pick. He's one of those deals where he worries

511
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Speaker 1: me as a player coming out and there's holes poking

512
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Speaker 1: him easily. The production to concern me. But could you

513
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Speaker 1: drop a better fit? No, I thought those are benefit

514
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Speaker 1: my My comparison for him was Darnell docket. I think

515
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Speaker 1: it's interesting. Did not only take him that they give

516
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Speaker 1: him Darnell docets number. They put him in the same

517
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Speaker 1: position and allow him to hunt that defense is Taylor

518
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Speaker 1: made for him to feast off those one on ones.

519
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Speaker 1: If he's wired and lined up in focus, I think

520
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Speaker 1: he has an opportunity to really be a very impactful

521
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Speaker 1: player for him as a rookie. All Right, we'll go

522
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Speaker 1: to this next one quick, because I don't how many

523
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Speaker 1: people really care at home about the guards. But Josh

524
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Speaker 1: Garnett with the Niners or Cody white Hair with the

525
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Speaker 1: Bear will be better player who have a bigger impact

526
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Speaker 1: year one. I think Cody white Hair is a better player.

527
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Speaker 1: I think, Um, you know, I know Gardnett. I just

528
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Speaker 1: don't know if Gardner is a fit for the system

529
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Speaker 1: that are gonna run. I like that, it just doesn't

530
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Speaker 1: seem like a great fit. Uh. Cody white Hair to

531
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Speaker 1: me was a guy that should have been drafted earlier.

532
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Speaker 1: Then he went on Draft Day. But I think he

533
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Speaker 1: goes to the right situations to right um spot for him.

534
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Speaker 1: They canna be physical up front, they can try and

535
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 1: grind it out. I think he'll be a better player earlier.

536
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Speaker 1: By the way, have you seen this happen? This happens

537
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Speaker 1: to me back. I wouldn't say all the time, but

538
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: a good bit where you'll say something about a player,

539
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: like on air, and then this is if you get

540
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: you say it on air right, somebody will like quote

541
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: you or tweet it out and then the player will

542
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: favorite the tweet with using your words. So like if

543
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Speaker 1: I'm sure the whole thought is I'm gonna be you know,

544
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: this big success I'm gonna happened last year, throw this

545
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Speaker 1: thing right back. I continue to get the fall out

546
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 1: of our discussion on Dante Fowler last year spawned a

547
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Speaker 1: conversation where I mentioned something about Khalil Mack and the

548
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: Raider Nation went crazy. But the point wasn't directed that

549
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: it was directed at Dante Falla. And then you get

550
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: these aggregate articles about a quote and I was like, yeah,

551
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: but you pulled a quote from a bigger conversation about

552
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: someone else. It's an indirect statement about a player that

553
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the player that I'm talking about.

554
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Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad by the way you talk about

555
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Speaker 1: the Raiders because we're gonna do a video today. If

556
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Speaker 1: you're just listening to this, we're gonna have a video

557
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Speaker 1: up later where we're gonna go with your article. You

558
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Speaker 1: did most most Town team, So I said, so we're

559
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Speaker 1: gonna do your most talented teams, and I think we're

560
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Speaker 1: gonna take like your top five to a breakdown. Let

561
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Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And then I said, okay, just give me.

562
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Speaker 1: Let me have one team that I said, you know, hey, Bucky,

563
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Speaker 1: how do you not put them in there? I'm just

564
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Speaker 1: teasing the team that I used. I just there's an

565
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Speaker 1: open wound, Bucky, just like I just like I just

566
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Speaker 1: like to mess with that a little bit. I like

567
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Speaker 1: to mess with that one a little bit. What we

568
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: got next here? Uh? So we just did guar so

569
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Speaker 1: uh we're not doing kickers. We're not doing kickers. Oh

570
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about Roberto Gayo? I like

571
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: for okay, how about so we're gonna go to the linebackers.

572
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: Now we have to find Oh I know this one,

573
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,239
Speaker 1: this one really hits close to home for you. So

574
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Speaker 1: how about Baltimore Kama La Korea I like him, or

575
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: right down the belt Way the Washington Risk and Suet

576
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: Craven's two totally different guys. Wow. You know in Craven's

577
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: by the way, remember he wanted to play safety, no

578
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: nor Yeah, they switched real quick. Yeah. So and I

579
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Speaker 1: you know one of those deals too. I never put

580
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Speaker 1: it together on draft? How did I not put Joe Barry?

581
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: See guy was even put that together? So much movement.

582
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: But that is a nice synergy, that little synergy there.

583
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Speaker 1: Who's gonna have the bigger year? Well, I'm just not

584
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Speaker 1: I'm not confident that Baltimore with Therell Suggs that he

585
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: can stay healthy. Dumerville is getting a little bit older.

586
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Speaker 1: They need some juice coming off the edge. I think

587
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Speaker 1: Karea can give him that. I don't think. I think

588
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Speaker 1: if we have this discussion after week five, Sue Craven's

589
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: will be having a much bigger year. But I'll say,

590
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: coming down the stretch, I think Karea will really come on.

591
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: I'll say Karree ends up having a better year. Well,

592
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: you know, you've you've worked in. They've done a great

593
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Speaker 1: job of taking workman like players and kind of plugging

594
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Speaker 1: him into that that edge rusher position. Who was the

595
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: dude they got from Kentucky because I liked him too.

596
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Speaker 1: They got him last year as Smith Smith. Yeah, he

597
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: he did some nice things for him too. He did,

598
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: he got on the field, he played, he played a lot.

599
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Speaker 1: They feel good enough, obviously to let Courtney Upshot go.

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Speaker 1: So there's a there's a spot for Korea. I'm intrigued

601
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: to see what Suet Cravens does at linebacker because there's

602
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: been this rush to have these hybrid safety linebackers onion.

603
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: Everyone are putting these lighter guys up there, and I

604
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: believe the league is trending back to a little more

605
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: power football teams are gonna run the ball a little

606
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: more come downhill than attack. I wonder if all these

607
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: undersized linebackers that are thrust into the lineup can hold

608
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: up and take on blockers. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting

609
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: to see how it kind of in the yen and

610
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: the yang. There all right quarterbacks trying to find guys

611
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: that are gonna play here. It's a few far between

612
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: the two obvious ones. Le'll tell you with the obvious one,

613
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: who has a better year Jared Goffer, Paxiston Lynch. Ohh who.

614
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Speaker 1: I think that's a tougher one than most would expect.

615
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: Paxiston Lynch to me, is in a nice situation. You

616
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: called that before the draft of that would be his

617
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: perfect fit. He's a nice situation because he has two

618
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: receivers on the outside. He has a running game that

619
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Speaker 1: they're gonna really focus on the run, and the defense

620
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Speaker 1: will make it where he doesn't have to play he

621
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Speaker 1: roll ball. For Jerry Goff, I worry about the pressure

622
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Speaker 1: getting to him where he feels like he has to

623
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Speaker 1: lift him into the playoffs because the Rams have been

624
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Speaker 1: that that prominent sleeper pick for the last three or

625
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: four years, Nanny get the quarterback, they expect him to

626
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: push him over the top. I'll worry about his ability. Yeah,

627
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: all right, that's fair. I would say, I don't know,

628
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Speaker 1: are you buying this, Trevor Simeon hype. No, I'm not

629
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Speaker 1: buying that either. Maybe I think I think I tried after.

630
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Speaker 1: I think I tried out there before Trevor Simmons because

631
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to take a snap. Yeah, but everybody, don't

632
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: sleep on Trevor Cey. I'm I am very much sleeping

633
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: on Trevor said. I'm fine. I'm fine with that. I'm

634
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: not an arrusted about Trevor Simey and Jersey. All right,

635
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: who we got next? All right, so we can go

636
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: to running back and we will go to m See

637
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: that's that's that's too easy. I'm gonna go for someone

638
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: because we're thinking about it being a league that is

639
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: kind of trending to your back back committee. And so

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00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: let's go with Kenyan Drake the Miami Dolphins and C J.

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Speaker 1: Procise Yes Sehawks. Wow, you know I'm a big J. J.

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Speaker 1: I E guy. I was a big fan of his

643
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Speaker 1: coming out of Boys. And it sounds like you're he's

644
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Speaker 1: gonna be the dude this year. So I was like,

645
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Speaker 1: like fantasy football tip frame, Butody that does that j J.

646
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Speaker 1: I don't sleep on j JI. I should say, um, okay, man,

647
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Speaker 1: but you've got injuries too, because Drake hasn't hasn't been

648
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Speaker 1: healthy for a long stretch of time. I like his

649
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Speaker 1: big playability, procise crowded backfield. They drafted a couple backs three, Um,

650
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Speaker 1: let me see here. I'm gonna say, gosh, I guess

651
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Speaker 1: I'll factor and special teams and I'll go and I'll

652
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Speaker 1: go with I'll go with Kenyan Drake Nice. I'm not

653
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Speaker 1: easy though, were the other backs that they picked. Seattle

654
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Speaker 1: took c J prosise Alice Collins Okay, yeah, yeah yeah,

655
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Speaker 1: and then take care from Clemson. Nice. Nice work back

656
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Speaker 1: there them coming from above. By the way, we have

657
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Speaker 1: TV is that is that is that basketball bloggers slash

658
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Speaker 1: podcaster that is t D in the back right now? Wow,

659
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: guest apparents you know the grats on the new on

660
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: the new pod. By the way, make it take it.

661
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: I want to say, yeah, make it, make it take it.

662
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: Like we're in the backyard. You know, we don't have

663
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: a time to have an extended discussion. But I think

664
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Speaker 1: if there was one person that was standing up in

665
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: his place or apartment when Golden State was ran in

666
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: threes in the fourth quarter, it was t D because

667
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: according to t D, that was like the greatest team ever.

668
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: And I saw his tweet where he said, I felt

669
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Speaker 1: like this series would give them an opportunity to show

670
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: their greatness, and so you felt like their greatness. Guys

671
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: happy to have a little the stakes back. That's just

672
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: something I'm doing on side, you know, No, I I

673
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: admire it. I look, you'd follow your passions in life. Man,

674
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: that that that's a good thing. Did you see though

675
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: you never responded to my tweet? I got grief from Rhodes. See,

676
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: this is the thing, Buck, You know this. I love

677
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: t D. When you have a when you have a

678
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: close friend, it allows you to go deeper into the

679
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: ribbing and in attacks. And people view that as me

680
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: like not being your bullying exactly. That's the whole thing.

681
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: It's this thing, this bullying, And so I like take

682
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: my little fun shots like TD tweets out, Hey, hey y'all,

683
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going to the gym, so I'm gonna

684
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: turn off my phone, so I don't see what happens

685
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: on the game, Like, please no spoilers. Appreciate you like that,

686
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: and I write like thanks for the update, Like you know,

687
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Speaker 1: I'm really dying to know if you're gonna. Oh, I

688
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: saw that I had a direct lead game. He said

689
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: he had a directly game, right, that's right. Yeah, it's

690
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: an NFL. Actually it's an NFL organized rector league that

691
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: we're playing. Yeah. I like how all these things are organized.

692
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: And I never see the Well you're too good. No,

693
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't play an IMN see beat team guy back

694
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: in his day. How is your team doing in that league?

695
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: We had two good wins last last week. I have

696
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: a Calmun Gummy who's on the podcast with me, and

697
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: Little Murray who also works here, and there's NFL, NBA.

698
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: He's the best player on your team? Oh, I probably

699
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: have to say right now, I probably have to say Law.

700
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: He's a point guard right now, Chris Law. No, not Low,

701
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, not Chris Law. Chris Law is the

702
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: best player on your team. No, not no chance. Little

703
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: Murray who's he's a point guard on squad again, he's

704
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: also on the pod. Uh, he runs a point he's

705
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: the most where you playing though, I'm two, So I

706
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: just want to just ruin it because the first few

707
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: games me Kyla law all one in handled the ball.

708
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: How did you guys do against Sell? You guys played

709
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: against you played his team? Ye? First game, first game

710
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: and he tied up at twenty five for some reason. Overtime,

711
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: So you win it overtime? Who won the game? No overtime?

712
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: No overtime. Yeah, it's only eight minutes, eight minute halves,

713
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: two halves, eight minute half. You know, old people he's got,

714
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: he's got some can't playing in this league. I can't know.

715
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't he hit like nine hundred free throws in

716
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: a row. We can't. So I can't sign up for

717
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: the league, right, And he said once he signed up,

718
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: he couldn't show up because he can't make every game.

719
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: This is a seven week league. He's like, hey, I'm

720
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: not gonna. I'm not gonna. Yeah, it's honorable moved by

721
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: him back. He's a man with principle, I guess. But

722
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: his team was literally begging him, hey, please we need

723
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: one today when we have four. He's like, hey, I

724
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: can't come today because I'm not gonna be even to

725
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: come next week. It's like, wait, Wow, yeah, he's a

726
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: he's a strange guy. But who's the team to beat?

727
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: I don't care about this football podcast. Who's eating this league? Man?

728
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: I would say, once we figured things out, what do

729
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: y'all play like? Are you more like a Portland team?

730
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to figure out Stylistically, it's really basically

731
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: we just you know, Lawer brings the ball up, a

732
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: run the way. As soon as we get the rebound,

733
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Speaker 1: I get open out. We want a couple of pin downs.

734
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: If I don't get the shot, Cal gets it in

735
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: the post. Are there any college any any former college

736
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: athletes in this league? Both cal Low and myself a

737
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: phone college athletes. I mean deed three for me whatever,

738
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: it accounts. It all accounts, So I don't know. I

739
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: feel like we need to get some footage. I feel

740
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Speaker 1: like I feel like that needs to be Oh I can,

741
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Speaker 1: I can. I will guarantee this, this is my last point,

742
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: and then take him off the microphone. There will be

743
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: footage of I feel like we need to pool posted, However,

744
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: it will be highly edited. I feel like I feel

745
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: like I feel like we need to get that and

746
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like, I need that that advanced metrics.

747
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: I know, uh, I know a lot of people aren't

748
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: into the analytics, but I am. I would like to

749
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Speaker 1: see TV's analytics. I kind of need to see his

750
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Speaker 1: plus minus and I need to see if we need

751
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: to leave him unguarded like they love robbers, or if

752
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: we need to kind of push up on him and

753
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: kind of make him put it on, put him on

754
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: the bows. Oh man, this is fascinating. This is a

755
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: whole another pot. What are you going to have? By

756
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: the way, have you got an invitation to be on

757
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: this basketball podcast? No? I mean no, like I haven't

758
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: got an invitation. I look at back, look at I

759
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: was watching. I was watching T and T y intation.

760
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Speaker 1: Have any higher ups? Have any higher ups come down

761
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: on you'd be like, hey, TD, is this taken away

762
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: your focus a little bit? No, not at all. I mean,

763
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: but I like the logo though, Make you shake it.

764
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: It's nice. I mean, be sure to download it. By

765
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: the way, if you enjoy this part, if you really

766
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: enjoy move the sticks. I make you no promises about

767
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: this other podcast, but you gotta you gotta check out.

768
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: It's like a car out. It's like a good car

769
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: like guy killed Montgomery Law, then you got my guy TD.

770
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: We gotta make sure we check that out and and

771
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: support the fan. I appreciate you guys, Thank you, but again, seriously,

772
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: glad to have guys back. I know a lot of

773
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: people have asking whereas moves the stakes. Don't get used

774
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: to it. Come home, man, summertime, summertime or summertime. You

775
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: know I can't. Football is not not your summer tide

776
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: the way hythe them are we allowed to play summertime?

777
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: By Will Smith? Are you still on probation? Still in probation?

778
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: Because music, We'll find a way to work. I mean,

779
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like we should have some theme days,

780
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: like we should have like a like Joe to See

781
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: Monday or something like that. I had the We're so

782
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: off track right now. I had the Summertime. It was

783
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Speaker 1: a c D but it was it was a single,

784
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: but it was like ten different versions. Yeah, did you

785
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: ever come across it was money? It's great? Wrong? You

786
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: know that was high school's talk about nineties, nineties R

787
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Speaker 1: and B and all kinds of stuff. Like, By the way,

788
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: somebody at home right now is like they're gonna do

789
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: safeties next. I'm just waiting for safe. I was bringing

790
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: the safe. I don't even know whose turn is it?

791
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: Is it bringing in? All right? All right, we've got

792
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: some safeties here. How about let's go Kian O'Neil with

793
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: the Falcons or von Bell with the Saint who has

794
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: a better year. Oh, Keian O'Neil is perfectly positioned to

795
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: play that cam chancellor role for the Falcons. I think

796
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: he comes in the box, he becomes that enforcer, gives

797
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: that defense a little toughness. I like the athletes they

798
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: have assembled around, I just feel like they need a

799
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: little more. I think Kean O'Neil delivers that. All right.

800
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: I like von Bell too, though apparently Rob Bryan wishes

801
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: he had von Bell. I know he wished he ron

802
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: Broun so we could play a defense there wasn't his

803
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: defense that was beautiful? All right, we got tackles next. Oh,

804
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: you have to like the tackle position. How about Taylor

805
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: Decker playing left tackle or mm hmm. You know this

806
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: is interesting because you came here talking about it. Taylor

807
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: Decker playing left tackle or Larry Tulsa playing left guard.

808
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: I'll take Tonsil. Do you wanna take him left cord?

809
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: Even though it's tonsil any of those. It doesn't matter

810
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: where in the draft, tosso versus the world. How about that?

811
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, by the way, now that we've

812
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Speaker 1: had some more time to get away from that, I mean,

813
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of it was a steel. I mean, it's

814
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Speaker 1: somebody who's telling me this to think about the fact

815
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Speaker 1: that they I mean, I don't know what Kiko Alonso

816
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: is gonna do. I like him as a player if

817
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: he's healthy. Byron Maxwell, I don't know if he'll ever

818
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: be the player that we saw, but just assume assume

819
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: that those two guys end up being starters for him.

820
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: You get those two players, you go from eight to thirteen,

821
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: and you get the number one player in the draft.

822
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: How about that? Pretty good Hall? Pretty good Hall. I

823
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: really like their coaching staff. I like their coaching staff.

824
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: I know Adam Gates is do a good job with

825
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: the offense, but Vans Joseph in their defense getting those

826
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: guys up the snufft I think it's a great pick.

827
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: I think they have an opportunity to make some noise.

828
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: That division is is going to be tough because you

829
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: have to deal with the Patriots with without all right,

830
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: who you just did tackles right in my up next, y,

831
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: we don't have much left here? What do we got?

832
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: Tight ends? Oh yeah, tight ends? Okay, Uh you guys,

833
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. It's easy. I gotta go right up

834
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: here at the top. I'm gonna go Hunter Henry to

835
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: the Chargers or or Austin Hooper with the Falcons. Who

836
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: has a bigger year. Well, I think Hunter Henry is

837
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: the guy about Gates. I mean, Gates is there, but

838
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: it's the apprentice. I think Hunter Henry becomes a factor.

839
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: That's the president, that's the president you're talking about. I

840
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: think he becomes everything that Ladarius Green was supposed to

841
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: be for them in terms of being that complimentary player

842
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: in the passing game. Uh was a hunt to find

843
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: a way to get the tied end in the mix.

844
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: The guy that I would say, keep an eye on you.

845
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: He's talent. He got in some trouble now, but he

846
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: can play. He definitely can playing for the Rams. In

847
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: terms of what they're trying to do, they're trying to

848
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: kind of spread it out and and do some of

849
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: the New England stuff in the past game where they

850
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: spread out and get the ball out of his hands.

851
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: Tell Higby could be down the scene there, alright, go

852
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver. We can go. We

853
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: can't go beneath the surface. And so I'm gonna go

854
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: with Sterling Shepherd New York Giants or mm HM Tyler

855
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: Boyd Cincinnati also Sterling Shepherd. I know, I know Cincinnati

856
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: a need for it, and I like Tyler boy is

857
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: a good player. But I think Shepherd will get more opportunities.

858
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: I think the balls again, they're gonna chuck it. Uh

859
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: they're in New York. I think both those guys that

860
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: are gonna see nothing but single coverage, but I think

861
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: his ability play inside outside, I think you'll have a

862
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: big impact. By the way, before we we we just

863
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: wrapped up all the positions there for this last draft.

864
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: One player who did not play last year who I've

865
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: heard is gonna just put on a show this year.

866
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: Our guy Kevin White. Oh he's looking good up there. Huh.

867
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: I heard phenomenal, I've heard now, I heard it comments

868
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: freak show. White receiver coach compared him to Andre Johnson

869
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: and Reggie Wayne, who he had coached at my unit

870
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: in Miami. Um, you know the Richard Richard you maybe

871
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: the best thing for Kevin White. We talked about transitioning

872
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: from the spread offense to a conventional offense could workout,

873
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: play out in space. That division is going to be

874
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: a lot tougher than some people imagine. I think Minnesota

875
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: is the class of the division. But Green Bay, Chicago, Detroit,

876
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: I think they make it very, very, very very competitive.

877
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: I just think it's funny that people forget about him.

878
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: I remember, you know last year I took a lot

879
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: of grief because I know you had Mark, you had

880
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: a Mark Cooper, human big you like, like I had

881
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: to have all those guys, and I had Mark Cooper

882
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: is my third player, and I had Kevin White is

883
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: my second player. And then after Mark Cooper going off,

884
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: how could you have like, we haven't even seen Kevin

885
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: White play yet. Can we watch him play game before

886
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: we're wrong? You're wrong? Anyways, Hey, so we touched on

887
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: those national meetings. Um, one of the things that I

888
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: have heard coming out there. Um, you know, they're very

889
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: protective of their information. Obviously, don't want to give all

890
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: that away, but this will come out eventually. So what

891
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: the heck I have? What was told the top player

892
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: of COURD Top upcoming senior, according to the Scouting Service,

893
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: is Jonathan Allen from Alabama. It's not a big surprise.

894
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: I thought he would come out last year. Was a

895
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: little bit surprised he didn't. Um but a really really

896
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: skilled player. You put him at the three and let

897
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: him rush inside and do some damage. You know, you

898
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: like Alabama players. You know they've been coached well. You know,

899
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: they understand how to play in the pro style system.

900
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: They have ability to really work. And all those guys

901
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: that came in here, you could tell they all bought

902
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: into the process, meaning that they love practice. They practice

903
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: already do those things. I think he's a nice thing.

904
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: I think the big thing as we look ahead to

905
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: next year and understanding the value of the draft isn't

906
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: in running back? Is a quarterback? What is it? But

907
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 1: some of these guys, some of these underclassmen that we're

908
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: already kind of pegging to come out, getting a glimpse

909
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: of those guys after we heard so much about him,

910
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: but really beginning to take a hard look at some

911
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: of those guys. Yeah, I'll tell you what. I'll just

912
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: give you a quick tease here. I've got an article coming.

913
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a series over the summer, just kind

914
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: of this first look series, so just looking at and

915
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: not not necessarily these guys are not necessarily going to

916
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: come out into the draft, but just good college players.

917
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: I want to get a chance to watch him, and

918
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: so the first one I did was Deshaun Watson, who

919
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: I liked. But it's always interesting when you really dig

920
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: in on somebody and really study him. I watched three

921
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: games Bama, Oklahoma, Notre Dame before you read it, before

922
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: going into the tape, before you popped the tape in Yeah,

923
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: what did you expect to see? Well? I saw him

924
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: played live at the NAST champiship game against Bama, and

925
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: he put on a show in that game. I thought,

926
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: this is the dude, right, you know, because you watch

927
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: him live and you see snippets of them when you're

928
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: watching other people. When I went back and watched the tape,

929
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: that was the best game that I saw of the

930
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: three that I watched was that Alabama game. Made some

931
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: big throws there. But the expectation, as with a lot

932
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: of these guys, you know, you you put them way

933
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: up there, and then when you really dig in you

934
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: can kind of point out some some issues or some flaws.

935
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: I like him as a player. I didn't just fall

936
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: head over heels in love with him. I don't think

937
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: he's you know, got big time size um or armstrength.

938
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: He's a good athlete. He's not Marcus Mariota fast, but

939
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: he plays the games similarly. I just say Marcus Mariota

940
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: is bigger, faster, stronger, um. But I think their style

941
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: of play is somewhat similar in this and in offensive wise, uh,

942
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: scheme wise, he does some similar things there. I like

943
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: his poise, he can scramble, he can create some really

944
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: nice things there. Not somebody's gonna work really deep in progressions,

945
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: predetermine some throws, really accurate on the move. Um. But

946
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, overall, I'm looking forward to seeing more from

947
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: this year. He is. He is outstanding on the zone

948
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: read similar to Russell Wilson in terms of how he

949
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: operates that he he makes a correct decision almost every

950
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: single time, a lot of a lot of success on

951
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: the ground. He's just not a He's not as dynamic

952
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: as Mariota as a runner. But he's a good player.

953
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: Take nothing away him. He's a good player. But maybe

954
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: my expectations coming into it, we're a little bit high.

955
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: I think the big thing for the Sean is I

956
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: think he'd be another year removed from the A c

957
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: L injury, so I think the athleticism should take a

958
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: jump up. UM. He has to show that he can

959
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: kind of master the passing game beyond uh the run

960
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: pass options stuff they do, beyond some of the simple

961
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,479
Speaker 1: Simon passes that are available UH to be the guy

962
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: that we think. I think the comparison that's easy to

963
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: make is Marcus Mariota because the way they play is similar,

964
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: even though he's not as dynamic and the same issues

965
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: that we had with Mariota. I think we will look

966
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: to see where de Sean is when it comes to

967
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: some of those things in terms of the decisiveness, his

968
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: ability to kind of assimilate into a pro style offense,

969
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: his ability to protect himself from injury with that slight frame,

970
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: Kenny withstand the punishment that would go with playing the

971
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 1: position at the next level. Bridgewaters the other comparison somebody

972
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: hit me with, I thought Teddy was a more pinpoint pass.

973
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: I think Teddy was more polished through aggressions. As different offense,

974
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: different system. But what I will say in and knowing

975
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: him annoying people around their program. He's the pie piper.

976
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: He is a natural leader, he's charismatic. The bigger the game,

977
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: the better he plays. I think the Alabama game could

978
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: be a nice launching point for him if he continues

979
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: to do the other stuff to prepare himself going into

980
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: the year. Now, I'm looking forward to watching him. So

981
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: this kind of this is the sooner as I'm doing.

982
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm Deshaun Watson. Next up is gonna be for net

983
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: I'll do McCaffrey. A lot of the big name college

984
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: players get a chance to really start studying them a

985
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: little bit way ahead of time. Here, Bucky, I think

986
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: we covered a lot of ground. I think we went

987
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: over forty minutes, which I did not think we'd be

988
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: capable of doing first time back. But it's nice to

989
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: be nice to be back with you. You've always got nice,

990
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: fresh new Just do a shirt off, Just do a

991
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: shirt off. Guys behind the glass. Is good to see

992
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: you back there as well. Oh, it's our pleasure to

993
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: be back. No, we got the A team assembled back here.

994
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: Have you got like twenty dudes back here? Oh it's

995
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: beautiful listening to every word you say. It's hanging there

996
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, hanging is right. Uh, We've got a

997
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: video if you are listening to this, we will have

998
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: a video popped up very shortly here where we're gonna

999
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 1: go over Bucky's top five Talented teams where he leaves

1000
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: out a very angry fan base which I'm gonna needle

1001
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: and have some fun with. But that's gonna do it

1002
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: for us today. Bucky's nice to be back in the saddle.

1003
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: We will probably be back back next week, no promises, uh,

1004
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: but it's nice to be back here talking football. Thank

1005
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 1: you guys for listening, thanks for downloading, and we'll catch

1006
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: you next week. Thanks for downloading. Move the Sticks with

1007
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:13,040
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