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Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Judge.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and

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Speaker 2: a Pod. We are live from Las Vegas and we

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Speaker 2: are here with Carol Radziwill and we are here to

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Speaker 2: talk all things updates and I'm hoping to get a

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Speaker 2: big one.

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Speaker 3: Carol, you're at Bravo Con. Yes, we're on.

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Speaker 4: Ok. Did you ever think that you would be here

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Speaker 4: at Bravo Khan?

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Speaker 1: No, because Bravo Con started after I left Bravo. What

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Speaker 1: year did you leave? Twenty eighteen? And I think it's

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Speaker 1: Bravo Con started. It might have started twenty eighteen, but after.

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Speaker 2: I was wed.

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Speaker 4: This is the third one, and they had a break

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Speaker 4: because of the pandemic, and then we had a two.

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Speaker 4: They did it every other year, so this is our

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Speaker 4: third one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you guys are professionals, like I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: I literally I know what I'm doing here, So what

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Speaker 3: are you not?

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Speaker 2: We don't either, and we've been here every year.

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Speaker 4: I'm just telling me where to go and I'll show up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to watch what Happens Live tonight, which

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Speaker 1: they're not calling it.

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Speaker 3: They don't call it.

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Speaker 4: Watch it Happens Live. I don't know what they call it.

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Speaker 4: They call it something else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like.

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Speaker 5: There's one night at the Bravos.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to the Bravos.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know about the Bravos, but everyone's like, you're

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Speaker 1: going to the Bravos, aren't you? And I was like,

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Speaker 1: you're probably going No, no, no, I'm definitely not going

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Speaker 1: to the Bravos Friday night, and I am going to

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Speaker 1: Luan the Countessa's cabaret show.

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Speaker 4: You are, yeah, she asked, Yes, she's not going to

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Speaker 4: the Bravos.

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Speaker 3: Then no, I guess not. It's Friday.

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Speaker 4: It's yeah, no, no, no, she's doing cabaret and yeah.

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Speaker 5: She at Bravo Con.

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Speaker 3: I think, so, yeah she's here. Yeah, I think, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I know, no, I think she's doing Bravo Con.

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Speaker 4: But I think she's doing her own thing as well,

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Speaker 4: because I know, like Joey Gorga has a he's got

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Speaker 4: his comedy show tomorrow night as well. There's a lot

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Speaker 4: of like side shows.

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Speaker 3: You guys have this.

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Speaker 1: This is how many millions of downloads now And that's

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Speaker 1: like unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe it's incredible.

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Speaker 3: How long have you guys been doing this? Four year?

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Speaker 5: Years? Yeah? Four years?

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Speaker 4: So we both fired at the same time. You were

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Speaker 4: both fired. Yeah, so I was fired and put on

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Speaker 4: pause for two years and then came back. Okay, so

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Speaker 4: I'm on year fifteen. So Teddy and I kind of

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Speaker 4: bonded over that. We would talk and Dereinda was also

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Speaker 4: put on pause at that time, so we would all talk.

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Speaker 4: And Teddy called me one day. She texted me and she's.

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Speaker 3: Like, can you talk?

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh god, what did I do?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 5: You know, nobody wants to get Can you talk?

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Speaker 3: Can you tell?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: I definitely don't want to get can talk text?

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Speaker 3: So yes, And it was.

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Speaker 4: About the podcast. Here we are four years later. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and did you always start it?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 3: It's not just housewives now you've we have.

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Speaker 5: Multiple different podcasts underneath the.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we actually have our own network on iHeart. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so we have a lot of podcasts underneath us. Tell

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Speaker 4: them we bring it in and then Teddy and I

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Speaker 4: do Housewives. We do kind of a promo.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be let me just tell you. I

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Speaker 3: don't watch any of you.

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Speaker 1: What do you watch?

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Speaker 3: I don't watch reality shows?

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Speaker 1: But let me just in fairness, I never watch them,

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Speaker 1: so it's not like I don't.

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Speaker 3: I never watched them.

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Speaker 1: And then when I was on House Place, I barely

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Speaker 1: watched New York you know. You know they send you

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Speaker 1: the screeners. When I was on it, they was like DVD's,

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Speaker 1: they'd send it, I'd screen it. Y.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just couldn't bear to watch HS and so.

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Speaker 3: And then after I left, I just don't. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't watch it, So I really I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know you.

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Speaker 1: Guys from Instagram because you're very popular and on TikTok

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Speaker 1: and stuff. So I see I see clips of it,

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Speaker 1: and and Vicky I recognize because she's legend, you know.

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Speaker 4: So who are you most wanting to see? Is there

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Speaker 4: anybody You're like, yes, I want to see them.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know someone asked me that earlier. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: It's not like I want to see anyone very specifically,

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Speaker 1: but I just like to I want to witness the

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Speaker 1: whole spectacle of it.

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Speaker 5: Are you gonna talk about it on substack?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh, you're so sweet. You are such a professional.

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Speaker 3: Oh I got let me tell you. I'm on the subject.

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Speaker 3: I know it did all honesty.

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Speaker 1: I was sort of like social media to me was

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Speaker 1: not my It's not my vibe because I'm not like

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Speaker 1: picture take, and so I'm like, what am I gonna do?

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Speaker 3: What am I gonna do?

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Speaker 1: I have all these followers, I want to, you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to interact with them.

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Speaker 3: And then substack came along.

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Speaker 4: Well, tell us about that?

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Speaker 1: Well they they kind I found out about it through

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Speaker 1: some friends and I would go to parties in New

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Speaker 1: York and they'd say, are you on Substack?

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Speaker 3: Are you on I'm like, what the fuck is Substack?

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Speaker 3: Do I need to be on Substack?

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess everyone needs to be on substack now

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Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't want to be on something

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Speaker 3: What Substack? And then I finally figured it out. I

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Speaker 4: I am telling you, I'm obsessed with it.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a social media platform and has like

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Speaker 1: a Twitter element, which they don't call tweets, they call posts.

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Speaker 1: And then it's really like I call it like OnlyFans

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Speaker 1: for the brain because it's a lot of independent journalists.

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Speaker 1: I don't do journalism there, but I write stories so

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Speaker 1: I've started. I've kind of fallen in love with writing again,

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Speaker 1: being on the reality show. And I just write stories,

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Speaker 1: Like every week I publish a story, a memoir, you know,

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Speaker 3: I have stories about Watch What Happens Live.

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Speaker 1: I have this great like behind the scenes film from

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Speaker 1: Watch It Happens Live that I post there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just get surprised to be asked to be back

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Speaker 4: on Watch It Happen'sive?

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Speaker 5: What was behind this?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll tell you. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I also wrote it about on my sub stack in

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Speaker 1: great detail, but I'm going to give you guys the preview.

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Speaker 3: I participated in.

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Speaker 1: A documentary about my I read about that late my

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Speaker 1: late husband and his cousin John and Carolyn Bassett. CNN

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Speaker 1: was doing it and one of John's closest, closest friends

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Speaker 1: was producing it. Is it okay if I go back

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Speaker 1: I would participate in it, and I did and it

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Speaker 1: they asked me if I would do press. So I

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Speaker 1: I said, I'll do a few CNN shows and then

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Speaker 1: the producer said, well, what about Watcher Happens Live? I said, what,

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Speaker 1: Like it didn't even occur to me, Like, why would

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Speaker 3: They were like, what of course we That's.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, it's a great path.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, so I texted Andy from the meeting. I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: would you like have you heard about this? They're pitching

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Speaker 1: me for Watch Happins Live? But like we should you know,

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Speaker 1: we should talk, right, we should like we should kind

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Speaker 3: It's a great idea. He goes, he goes a have

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Speaker 3: my people call you.

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Speaker 4: Like it was just so like you know how Andy,

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Speaker 4: it was so falling out.

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Speaker 1: Well, we had in that very major public feud since

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Speaker 1: I told him, like, you know, he's full of shit

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Speaker 1: or whatever I say on the reunion that went crazy.

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Speaker 3: That reunion was crazy.

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Speaker 5: That was delicious.

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Speaker 4: It was so I've told him off at a reunion before.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I was anyone like I was cursing.

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Speaker 1: I was like anyway, anyway, so we had we had

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Speaker 1: Andy and I have known each other for twenty something years,

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Speaker 1: like through friends that have nothing to do with reality,

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Speaker 3: Are we doing that? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, why do you think it didn't

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Speaker 1: A lot of things like the confluence of events and stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I think I think Andy really was at a

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Speaker 3: Are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we have all this history, and there was

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Speaker 3: I thought it was talk show. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: And and then we sort of had a we had

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Speaker 1: and and then and then then it got into the

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Speaker 1: press a little bit like like a year later, but

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Speaker 1: so then it was just like the natural progression that

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Speaker 1: we would then, you know, heal the Bravo world by

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Speaker 1: coming together on.

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Speaker 4: Did you ever think that it was going to be

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Speaker 4: that big of a deal, to be honest, and again

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Speaker 4: you'll see maybe I'll post this.

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Speaker 1: This behind the scenes thing on my Instagram too, but

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Speaker 1: it's on my subs deck.

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Speaker 3: I was so nervous I was.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe I'm fucking doing that.

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Speaker 1: I was just my best and I'm like, what the

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Speaker 1: fuck am I doing? Why am I doing this? Then

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Speaker 1: They're going to think it's you know, maybe they'll want

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Speaker 1: to see like Ramona, I don't know. I was just like,

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And and that you know, now you know, it's eight

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Speaker 1: Well, after that reunion, I mean after that reunion, it

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Speaker 5: The romance was over.

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Speaker 3: It was unworkable for me to stay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I to be honest, I was surprised every

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Speaker 3: I never made out with Sonya. I never got naked.

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Speaker 4: Who are you still friends?

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Speaker 5: I was going to say, who are you still close?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm friend friends with Derinda, Like she's just she's

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Speaker 4: So I saw it on social media.

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Speaker 4: Uh with the Stratton So yeah.

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Speaker 5: Do you watch any of the newbie shows?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: thinks I'm gonna be back. You know, it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: I feel that she's back.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna be so disappointed when there's no announcement. But

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Speaker 7: Well we appreciate you so much for thank you for

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Speaker 7: we just got the we got the look like you

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Speaker 7: got to wrap it up.

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Speaker 3: So we got to go.

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Speaker 4: To tonight, right, you're going to have What time is it.

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Speaker 3: It's it's five eleven.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I gotta get a lamb. Yeah, I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm almost in glad. But your glamb looks done.

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Speaker 4: Well from earlier today. I just need touch ups in

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Speaker 4: the hairdo. I'm going to do up hairdo my hairs

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Speaker 4: a lot of time. I know your ha great.

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Speaker 3: You know I had such a crush your dad.

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Speaker 4: What hold on, let's talk about that.

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Speaker 5: Talk about this.

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Speaker 3: John Cougar Mellencamp. Yes, hello, wait what I'm older than well,

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Speaker 3: because i'm his age.

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Speaker 1: You're age, honey, I think I am now because he

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Speaker 1: was like, I don't know his music, kid at seven.

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Speaker 4: His seventies, you're not in your seventies.

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Speaker 1: Well, he was like he was like an Inspirations, like

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Speaker 3: In the early eighties. When was he Yeah, the eighties.

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Speaker 3: I have him, I have him on on rotation. He's

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Speaker 5: When he was the Tugs, he was.

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Speaker 3: He was so hot. You're so pretty though, it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I love he was single.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we can something we can do. Yes, he's a

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Speaker 4: real charmer, charm your pants right off.

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Speaker 1: No, he had that one song your heartbeats like an explosion.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's so good.

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Speaker 4: It's like so many, there's so many good I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I don't even know. You have his lyrics and tattooed

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Speaker 4: on your back, don't you have one?

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Speaker 5: Life was short even on your longest days?

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Speaker 3: Oh that's okay.

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Speaker 4: What song is that from Longest Days?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like it's a newer song. But and then

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Speaker 7: Jack and Diane was a huge song. Well, Jack and

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Speaker 7: you might have like hurt so good, or you might

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Speaker 7: have all of them.

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Speaker 1: But I've been recently listening to the one. I can't

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Speaker 3: It's on my it's on my phone, and I.

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Speaker 1: Look, you know, can have time because it's so good,

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Speaker 1: and like, I just like love him so much.

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Speaker 3: Hold On, he's on my playlist. This is how hold on.

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Speaker 5: It's so funny because you would be his type.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, all right, well let's make this happen.

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Speaker 3: Guys. He has a girlfriend right now?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Still yeah, they rotate.

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Speaker 1: Oh so good, because the night what's it called, it's

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Speaker 5: Ain't even done with the night. Oh that is a

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Speaker 5: good song.

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Speaker 3: It's so good.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Guys all right, talk to you soon.