Speaker 1: With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Okay, we are very
Speaker 1: excited because we have Carrie Keene on today, who appeared
Speaker 1: in thirteen episodes of nine two from ninety three to
Speaker 1: ninety five. She played Suzanne Steele, Jack McKay's ex girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Right now, we're watching it, and she's brought Erica, his
Speaker 1: half sister. We don't know what's going on. Is she's shady?
Speaker 1: Is she not? Uh, let's hear from carry. This might
Speaker 1: be a spoiler alert, So if you don't want to hear,
Speaker 1: just put ear muffs on and read our lips. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I guess I should wear ear muffs. Yeah, probably, Okay, Carrie, Hi,
Speaker 1: Oh you two beautiful girls looking. Oh it's so good.
Speaker 1: It's so nice to see you two. This is crazy.
Speaker 1: So much life has happened to the two of you,
Speaker 1: and I drive into you with everybody, but oh, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, so many great things have happened for both
Speaker 1: of you, and you look like kids. Still. I still
Speaker 1: think he was, you know, young twenty year olds. Oh
Speaker 1: what we wish? Thank you, thank you for inviting me,
Speaker 1: for coming on. You were such a huge part of
Speaker 1: our journey in our history. Yeah, you came in hot
Speaker 1: and had I had a part that I didn't realize
Speaker 1: I was playing. No, Dallas, Oh no, you did not know.
Speaker 1: They never told me that I was anything other than
Speaker 1: the mother of Luke's sister, and I'd had an affair
Speaker 1: with Luke's father and this was the result. I thought
Speaker 1: it was just a little bit down and up looking
Speaker 1: for a job at the peach pit. But I honestly say,
Speaker 1: till they gave me that last script, that it was
Speaker 1: I was a con artist. So the fact is that
Speaker 1: I said to them I would have played it exactly
Speaker 1: the same if I was a great con artists And
Speaker 1: they would never tell me to this day they won
Speaker 1: because I saw them recently. They won't tell me whether
Speaker 1: they had actually planned that from the beginning, or that
Speaker 1: they had sort of decided as the script developed that
Speaker 1: I would be trying to steal looks money. We were
Speaker 1: hoping you would tell us, because we don't know. In fact,
Speaker 1: we didn't know until you just told us. I'm just spoiler.
Speaker 1: I don't know. My guess is that the script developed
Speaker 1: into that, because I don't know how far in advance.
Speaker 1: But what was it. I did twelve of those, so
Speaker 1: my team I'm just going to guess that it was
Speaker 1: great anyhow, because not knowing I played a great conn artist.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can see, on one hand if they
Speaker 1: were savvy enough to not tell you going in to
Speaker 1: maybe shade your performance a certain way to their advantage. However,
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to give them that credit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I could be wrong. I could be wrong, But
Speaker 1: it just really does feel like it unraveled in a
Speaker 1: way that nobody knew was going to happen. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: that's what a good con would be, so that the
Speaker 1: audience wouldn't have a clue, same as me. But I
Speaker 1: think that's the perfect con, is that whether they decided
Speaker 1: I just wasn't capable of playing the con woman, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm irritated. There's part of me that's a
Speaker 1: little irritated by that. Wait, they won't. They wouldn't tell
Speaker 1: you even today. No, because I did a podcast a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and I think I mentioned it
Speaker 1: at that time, but they just thought it was funny
Speaker 1: that I didn't know. But no, I don't think they knew,
Speaker 1: and they didn't want to say, like like, of course
Speaker 1: we had it planned out, but then they didn't want
Speaker 1: to say that either, so like it didn't matter. I
Speaker 1: had such a good time with you. The fact is
Speaker 1: the whole cast was so welcoming to me and too.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Nollie and David. You were just Darlin's and
Speaker 1: so busy at that time, so unbelievably famous and dealing
Speaker 1: with all that celebrity, and still took the time to
Speaker 1: be as sweet as pot. I mean, it was just
Speaker 1: delightful people. And I mean most of my work was
Speaker 1: with Luke, and of course I just fell in love
Speaker 1: like everybody else and Captain. I mean, life is so
Speaker 1: busy that we try to keep in touch with all
Speaker 1: of the people, even by just knowing what's going on
Speaker 1: with them, right, pretty hard. We meet a lot of
Speaker 1: people people, but some people, there's some people that they
Speaker 1: find a place, yeah, and Luke was definitely one of
Speaker 1: those for so many people. Do you know that I
Speaker 1: still have a card for Luke. Then I never got
Speaker 1: a chance to give him because he had a pot
Speaker 1: bellied pig at the time we were and it's hard
Speaker 1: to this day where the pig is flying through the
Speaker 1: air into the and I was going to give it
Speaker 1: to and I keep it in my collection of things
Speaker 1: but you know what it's. It's it's just so great
Speaker 1: to have had all of you in my life, but
Speaker 1: to have met Luke into um life is really isn't it?
Speaker 1: About all of it? Whether it's a sadness, a grief,
Speaker 1: a joy, you just and you just wrap it around
Speaker 1: you and carry it with you. Yeah, what else can
Speaker 1: you do? I mean you were the best. I just
Speaker 1: had such a lovely time with all of them. Yes,
Speaker 1: great memories working with you. You were always What episode
Speaker 1: are you are you playing today? We just watched episode
Speaker 1: from season four. Episode it's called sixteen, I think sixteen.
Speaker 1: It's the one where you decide to leave your daughter
Speaker 1: with her new brother and go back. You just met
Speaker 1: the hymn and you say, oh, I'm gonna I have
Speaker 1: to go back home and square something away, and you
Speaker 1: leave her with him, which are for your social security
Speaker 1: number for his business man, and then you freak out
Speaker 1: that he wanted your social security number, got it, But
Speaker 1: then Erica goes into your wallet and steals it and
Speaker 1: gives it to him, and that's how it's left. So
Speaker 1: that's where we are. We He's going to find out
Speaker 1: something about you. I've even I've even forgotten some of
Speaker 1: the details of each of the episodes. But I I,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. At this point in my career, I
Speaker 1: look back and I don't remember doing that or that
Speaker 1: or that. And then when I watch it sometimes, because
Speaker 1: you know, television now is like gobbling up everything. There's
Speaker 1: so much room for everything that every so off. My husband,
Speaker 1: will y'all, oh, Carr the world? Who is that? Who?
Speaker 1: I don't remember doing that? You and Nlie that played
Speaker 1: your daughter, You guys were such just a pair of
Speaker 1: love bugs. I just remember when you guys were ones.
Speaker 1: I honestly, in my young mind remember you guys being
Speaker 1: actual mother and daughter to me. And and every time
Speaker 1: I watched the show now with these two characters, I
Speaker 1: believe that you're related. The casting so good. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: so pleased to hear that I'm one of those actors.
Speaker 1: I first of all, I love working with children, and
Speaker 1: I love working with animals, and I love working in
Speaker 1: bad weather because somehow it just takes you out of
Speaker 1: yourself completely. You're dealing with either the beautiful animal. I
Speaker 1: was in Australia and I had to work with a
Speaker 1: koala bear that I had in my arms. Oh, thank
Speaker 1: well to me the Koala Bear was star so we
Speaker 1: took all the pressure off of me. Yeah. I feel
Speaker 1: the same way with children. I just absolutely love working
Speaker 1: with kids. You can tell I don't have any o
Speaker 1: my own. And maybe that's it, you know, because I
Speaker 1: just love the opportunity of playing that. But you did.
Speaker 1: You girls are mothers, if I'm not mistaken, right from
Speaker 1: our bellies? Eight between us? You have eight children between you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mouth drops. Man, I don't know how you do
Speaker 1: ours too and keep up such wonderful careers, et cetera. Cheez. Well,
Speaker 1: we women can do it all, no matter what is
Speaker 1: thrown at us, we deal with We can do it.
Speaker 1: We absolutely do it. Go forward. If you're also create
Speaker 1: If you're creative women, you also have to create something
Speaker 1: or you'll implode. You'll just drivel up and die right
Speaker 1: creating something? I'm not a happy person. Did you audition
Speaker 1: for this part? Were you offered the part? How did
Speaker 1: it come about Glory's spelling your dad? First of all,
Speaker 1: I did a wonderful pilot called Divided We Stand with
Speaker 1: Aaron Spelling and that one, Oh my gosh, I mean
Speaker 1: he had his fingers crossed for that one. But it
Speaker 1: was at the time that ABC and he not okay
Speaker 1: being id, let's put it that way, but we thought
Speaker 1: we were on the schedule and it was remember with
Speaker 1: Seth Green, and it was divided into a half an
Speaker 1: hour with the father and a half an hour with
Speaker 1: the mother, and Seth had just come off of radio
Speaker 1: days and then Seth as a little boy would look
Speaker 1: in the camera and talk to the audience about divorced parents.
Speaker 1: It was half and half. That's brilliant. I want to
Speaker 1: watch that. No doubt my dad created it, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying Dad, then it was he said to me,
Speaker 1: actually he said, this is my heart and soul is
Speaker 1: in And we was heartbroken because it wasn't picked a
Speaker 1: great idea. But so when it came then I did
Speaker 1: a couple of other things for him. And then when
Speaker 1: nine o two one Old came up, I think I
Speaker 1: met with he and Duke, but I don't think it
Speaker 1: was really an audition. And then after nine o two
Speaker 1: and oh, I did a couple of students on Pacific
Speaker 1: Palisades seven seven, Your dad, And I mean, I owe
Speaker 1: him such a lot, I really do, because he treated
Speaker 1: casts like gold. At least my experience was he treated
Speaker 1: us like gold and I just adored working with those
Speaker 1: two gentlemen there, they could say, just brought out the
Speaker 1: best in me. So there you go. I have pretty
Speaker 1: good memories of you guys. Do you do you get
Speaker 1: recognized for your role on Beverly Hills nine twenty. I
Speaker 1: mean I was sort of recognized before that for my
Speaker 1: work on series, but nine O two and oh was
Speaker 1: a whole other sensation. Differently, I remember going to the
Speaker 1: mall one day and all of a sudden, I had
Speaker 1: these kids all over me, and wow, I mean that
Speaker 1: was a whole other thing, and it was so much
Speaker 1: fun because then I kind of got an inkling of
Speaker 1: what you guys were going through in a in an
Speaker 1: enormous way. So yeah, I sure did get recognized. And
Speaker 1: my niece, it's the only thing in my whole career
Speaker 1: that she's recognized as being the epitome of my career,
Speaker 1: the fact because she's never missed an episode. Now she's
Speaker 1: forty with her own baby and she looks for reruns.
Speaker 1: Tell her, Hie, it was like for Nolie just because
Speaker 1: she was so young and people a being Dylan's sister.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Throb of the show. What was it
Speaker 1: like which do you remember what she would say, like
Speaker 1: when she would start to get recognized, when she would
Speaker 1: come to work and tell you or I think, you know,
Speaker 1: when you shoot something, it takes a while to get
Speaker 1: on air, So I think by the truth, you know,
Speaker 1: because well we were just oh my goodness, do you
Speaker 1: remember when there was two studios and we were shooting
Speaker 1: two at the same time, double ups yea, and the
Speaker 1: lady was going just trying to get us the right costumes.
Speaker 1: So there's very little time to chat other than about
Speaker 1: what the scenes were about in the story. And so
Speaker 1: at the time, I don't think either of us really
Speaker 1: realized that we would be caught up in any way
Speaker 1: at all. I mean certainly didn't realize that you were
Speaker 1: going to become this crazy con artist that destroys Dylan's
Speaker 1: life or tries to. I wonder my life wasn't written.
Speaker 1: I just shitty Cavendish because we because like we told you,
Speaker 1: were watching back from the beginning. We're on season four.
Speaker 1: This is when you come in and I have no
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen because while we
Speaker 1: were in it were I was never watching it. I
Speaker 1: didn't read every other body else's parts. You know, wasn't
Speaker 1: that like good at that point? But now just reading
Speaker 1: this and seeing that you what your character does in
Speaker 1: the show, I'm like flabbergasted. Well, yeah, so what's I
Speaker 1: But it was fun. I mean, I don't feel anything
Speaker 1: about it other than just fun. I just I just
Speaker 1: love terms and twists like that. What a good one.
Speaker 1: I mean, my favorite thing is I'm nypd blew. At
Speaker 1: the end of that, Dennis friends said to me, don't
Speaker 1: be surprised if they throw out the script. And indeed,
Speaker 1: I write the first day and they basically threw out
Speaker 1: the script. Really yeah, and day after day we would
Speaker 1: meet talk a little bit about what should happen in
Speaker 1: the scenes and jump and my background with some improv
Speaker 1: and just my love of being in the moment and
Speaker 1: that spontaneous thing. I just had a ball because I
Speaker 1: found fun. Vaguely about the story, but basically, no, just
Speaker 1: say what you need to say as the character that
Speaker 1: anything gone at me is my best. That's my favorite thing.
Speaker 1: Where are you now? Where are you up to now?
Speaker 1: I'm very curious. Where are you? My goodness, are you
Speaker 1: back in Canada? Are you you were still wonderfully in
Speaker 1: the land of movies of the week, you know, during
Speaker 1: nine or two, no One and after so I did
Speaker 1: many roles, including a wonderful one with m and Margaret.
Speaker 1: You meet these fabulous people, and so I kept up
Speaker 1: that and guest starring. But I founded White Clo Theater
Speaker 1: Company and I started directing producing for six years. WHOA.
Speaker 1: It's just consumed me, and it was something I'd always
Speaker 1: wanted to do, was direct in theater. So that consumed me.
Speaker 1: And out of that came a group of actors that
Speaker 1: I bring together every Wednesday night, and it's mostly for
Speaker 1: working actors, and I coached them and I've developed a
Speaker 1: class that I wish had been around when I was
Speaker 1: a young kid, because we thought of the physical breathing
Speaker 1: and all of that, and then we go into audition technique,
Speaker 1: which nowadays is on camera self different. Oh it's so different.
Speaker 1: And then we do see studies, so it's all in one.
Speaker 1: So it's a really intense Wednesday night. So that was fun.
Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of writing, so I have
Speaker 1: a script that I've been working on, so it's ready
Speaker 1: to go. Getting anybody to read it in this town
Speaker 1: is an a low story, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed,
Speaker 1: and then I'm waiting for something called sweet de quarantine
Speaker 1: lac mine, which in English means something like being It's
Speaker 1: really about being stuck in the quarantine of COVID and
Speaker 1: how relationships either survived or didn't. And so that's the
Speaker 1: cool fun. And the last couple of rules I've done
Speaker 1: have been comedy and oh my goodness, so much fun.
Speaker 1: I just love, you know, I just love any of it,
Speaker 1: and I am so grateful and joyful that at this
Speaker 1: point in my life, I still love this craft. I
Speaker 1: love it with all my soul, and I have I
Speaker 1: can you know, people talk about the industry, but I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't even remember really bad experiences. Maybe a few
Speaker 1: that weren't ideal, but in most cases I've just met
Speaker 1: fabulous people. Such a fun journey. We've all gone to
Speaker 1: be on people in this career, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden light life hands you things that kind of knock
Speaker 1: you on your butt from and then you you kind
Speaker 1: of have to summon that creative energy and then you
Speaker 1: look back and you go, ah, still there, I still
Speaker 1: got it. That is the one thing that acting teaches
Speaker 1: us because we go on auditions and we're like this
Speaker 1: is it. I'm gonna get it and boom, you don't
Speaker 1: get it. So it knocks you down, you get back up,
Speaker 1: and you have to apply that to life. So it's
Speaker 1: already ingrained in us. So naturally in life, nothing, you know,
Speaker 1: everything knocks us down and we get back up again.
Speaker 1: That's a song, isn't it. Wait? What part of Canada?
Speaker 1: Are you from? Little towns around Toronto? And then I
Speaker 1: spent some time in Toronto in my early acting days,
Speaker 1: and then I moved here in nineteen eighty four with
Speaker 1: my fingers crossed because I didn't have anything. I mean,
Speaker 1: I had no sort of fidential or anything. And the
Speaker 1: first audition Burt Medcalf, who was one of the producer
Speaker 1: mash he took me under his wing because he had
Speaker 1: worked with me up in Canada, and he got me
Speaker 1: a great agent, Roe Diamond. I still have her, and
Speaker 1: he sort of helped me through. And the first audition
Speaker 1: audition I got, they were looking for a Greek woman
Speaker 1: and I never My agent said can you play that?
Speaker 1: And I said yes, of course, right. I stayed up
Speaker 1: all night and watched Zorba the Greek my body and
Speaker 1: I kind of walked in the room and they were wonderful.
Speaker 1: It was Don Brinkley and he said, well, great, you
Speaker 1: start next week. And I said, well, there's just one
Speaker 1: little catch. I don't have any permit to work here.
Speaker 1: They walked me across the Fox lot to the legal department,
Speaker 1: got permit. My first audition in America. I was that's
Speaker 1: my favorite story, because that's a great story. Woman. It
Speaker 1: was just the timing of it. That's what happened today, No,
Speaker 1: what happened today, but wow, so many things couldn't happen
Speaker 1: today that we're just part of the fun of it.
Speaker 1: Back then you're just you know, being in that's a
Speaker 1: whole an auditioning with a director unheard of now unheard.
Speaker 1: So your class is still going, yeah, and it's really
Speaker 1: I think people join or yeah, well coaching. Coaching is
Speaker 1: um and I do a small class because I want
Speaker 1: to do it once a week and it's for working
Speaker 1: actors and it's really more coaching the individuals with their
Speaker 1: particular challenge because I don't know about you girls, but
Speaker 1: I still as an actress, almost always can identify a
Speaker 1: challenge that's always been with me. So with these actors,
Speaker 1: that's what we're working on. His ways of getting that
Speaker 1: challenge U taken care of. Wow, see you next week then,
Speaker 1: I mean, anybody listening out there, if you need this
Speaker 1: is the real You are the real deal. Like your
Speaker 1: love for your craft and your passion for what you
Speaker 1: do is just palpable and it's inspirational. So anybody out
Speaker 1: there I feel like would benefit so much from working
Speaker 1: with you. How can they find you? Mostly? You know what,
Speaker 1: I haven't advertised the class. I don't have a website
Speaker 1: about it. It's really word of mouth, so believe it
Speaker 1: or not. People just recommend and but let me see,
Speaker 1: not wanting to give up my phone number to like
Speaker 1: the world. Do you have a website and don't? I
Speaker 1: don't at all, but you know what they do? You
Speaker 1: have an Instagram? No, I'm not on social. Every time
Speaker 1: you open your mouth more and more. Now this is crazy.
Speaker 1: I can't give out your number, but people find eight
Speaker 1: and Instagram just quickly, so people can slide into your
Speaker 1: DMS if they want to reach you. Find Kerry Keen.
Speaker 1: You won't regret it. My actors have been coaxing me
Speaker 1: for years because I've been doing this. Now you have
Speaker 1: to post. I'll just get them to do something and
Speaker 1: so remember Kerry Keen and I'll try to do something
Speaker 1: that that that they can slot into. Yes, Kerry ke
Speaker 1: k r R I E E K e A and
Speaker 1: there you go. There they will find you. Yes, they
Speaker 1: want you two girls. I'm just remarking the experiences and
Speaker 1: lives you've pad since I last saw you, and you
Speaker 1: are not You have not aged, and you are more beautiful.
Speaker 1: Women can get more beautiful. And I think you've land
Speaker 1: and the way you've landed on your feet each time
Speaker 1: and come up. Uh, you are gorgeous girls and your
Speaker 1: spirits are so alive. Yeah. That privileged to talk to
Speaker 1: you so much to us. Really, we've loved getting to
Speaker 1: see you again. It's been a blessing. Thank you for
Speaker 1: coming on our show. You're a beautiful inside. And now
Speaker 1: Kerrie Keane, Wow, you stay well As adults now, it's
Speaker 1: so it's so different. We talked about this often putting
Speaker 1: into perspective. We were young girls in our own heads,
Speaker 1: doing our own thing, and it's nice to come back
Speaker 1: and kind of re meet people that we've worked with,
Speaker 1: but now as adults and we appreciate them in such
Speaker 1: a different way. Oh, I bet, because I think I
Speaker 1: feel the same as I meet these what I think
Speaker 1: of as kids, and then I meet them and they've lived.
Speaker 1: I just love doing that. I love re meeting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we will meet again, hopefully, I would love we
Speaker 1: love you, be well, thank you. Such a nice like
Speaker 1: light just emanating from her. There's something about her that
Speaker 1: makes me it's hard for me to even really want
Speaker 1: to be an actress like she. She reignites that like
Speaker 1: love and appreciation for the craft that we get to do.
Speaker 1: You know, she's so into it. That was great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what a neat lady. Well, I hope you guys like
Speaker 1: that interview. Her character goes on to do some major damage.
Speaker 1: We see it, but we don't. We don't remember exactly
Speaker 1: what happened. I don't know. It's not good, but we
Speaker 1: want to see. We're excited, so stay tuned.