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Speaker 1: Second date updated. If I've learned anything from reading countless

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Speaker 1: dating blogs, they all say the absolute worst thing you

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Speaker 1: can do is be open to trying new things.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't. That's the opposite of what they all say.

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Speaker 1: New experiences should scare you and you need to avoid

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Speaker 1: them at all costs.

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Speaker 2: Instead of reading the anti therapy blogs.

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Speaker 1: Again, you know, you need to stick to the places

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Speaker 1: that you've already been and people you already know, and

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Speaker 1: nothing bad can ever happen people.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jeff, is how you end up in like my

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Speaker 3: hometown dating your passage.

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Speaker 1: Okay supports it as one of our listeners didn't take

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Speaker 1: that advice, thank god, and he's some sort of modern

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Speaker 1: renaissance man decided to try something new and look where

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Speaker 1: it landed him right here on our show, which I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing is another new experience for him that he's never

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Speaker 1: done before.

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Speaker 2: So yikes, we're the low point.

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Speaker 4: We are, Alvin, welcome to your new life.

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Speaker 5: Low awesome, glad to be here. This is my first

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Speaker 5: time ever doing that.

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Speaker 2: Now, are you feeling shame or excitement?

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Speaker 5: No, definitely excitement. I don't I'm not feeling shame.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, we're going to change that by the end

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Speaker 1: of the segment. But you said that you tried something

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Speaker 4: What was that?

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Speaker 5: Have you ever heard of a red envelope party?

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Speaker 4: That?

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Speaker 2: What's a red envelope party?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's like a like a dating event that people

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Speaker 5: put on. And there was this fancy house and you

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Speaker 5: went by yourself.

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Speaker 2: You didn't bring a friend, Yeah, no, this was.

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Speaker 5: A friend poked me up with this, but I went

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Speaker 5: by myself. Yeah. And then you scan like a QR

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Speaker 5: code and you fill out a questionnaire that's like about

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Speaker 5: your interests and your values.

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Speaker 2: You know what kind of person you are a dating profile, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, just a brief little thing like that. And

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Speaker 5: then and once you do the questionnairey, I went side

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Speaker 5: the house and it was had the vibe of like

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Speaker 5: a slanky private members club. It was a fancy furniture

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Speaker 4: People.

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Speaker 3: You get a house full of single people and you're

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Speaker 5: Is that the rule? No, No, You're you're supposed to

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Speaker 5: mingle and drink and have a good time. And that's

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Speaker 5: what I've been doing. About like an hour into it,

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Speaker 5: maybe a little more, a waiter came around with a

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Speaker 5: silver tray and on the tray were red envelopes, and

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Speaker 5: you find the one that had your name on it,

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Speaker 5: and that has inside the person that you are supposed

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Speaker 3: From I'm guessing the whole point is so that you

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Speaker 2: More about talking to other Piani person my guess.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, And the fact that it's on a silver tray

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Speaker 1: who was the person whose name was in your envelope?

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Speaker 5: My envelope had the name Natalie in it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, had you already met? Why are you laughing?

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Speaker 1: I thought he said he had his own name in

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Speaker 2: Did you had you already met Natalie or do you

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Speaker 5: I had actually met her, and she was like obviously

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Speaker 5: looking at all the ladies, and she was like top

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Speaker 3: Oh you're like, yes, well he read envelope.

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Speaker 1: There was a yes, just bump, Yeah, Okay, so you

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Speaker 4: How did that go?

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Speaker 5: It was great. We were having a really good time

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a good sign because she could have been

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Speaker 5: No, no, she seemed cool and she was kept encouraging

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Speaker 3: Okay, but you're you know, you're doing it together and

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Speaker 2: Scene, like it seems appropriate.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was appropriate amount And I was not alone,

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Speaker 4: These are all positive reviews.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything in your mind that like was like

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Speaker 2: Oh he's laughing now.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's not the worst. But like, we had

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Speaker 1: Oh and this was in front of Natalie.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I was walking with her.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, yeah I looked sloppy. I didn't like

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Speaker 5: fall over. Like I was just so hammered that I

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Speaker 4: Did lean into a bush.

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Speaker 5: But she help me out of it. But like, I'm

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Speaker 1: Not your proudest moment, but it's probably not like a

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Speaker 4: So how did it end that night? But with you

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Speaker 5: Well, at the end of the party, I asked her

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Speaker 5: you know, soak up the alcohol, right, And she said

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Speaker 5: I haven't heard back from her. I mean I got

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Speaker 2: Exactly, have you called her or nothing?

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Speaker 5: I texted her once. I don't want to be the

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Speaker 5: dude who's stending multiple texts whatever. Definitely like damn, I

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Speaker 5: went to all that trouble and thought it was a

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Speaker 1: Maybe she confidently leaned on the same bush and is

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Speaker 1: date update, fancy edition.

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Speaker 4: Right after this second date update, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Need to set the scene here for any listeners just

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Speaker 1: joining us. Picture well dressed men and women sitting on

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Speaker 1: ornate couches, sitting on gimlets, mingling together.

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Speaker 4: Red envelope party people. It's fancy.

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Speaker 3: It does feel like something that happened in Jeff's neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Girls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of ask on gimlets and mint

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Speaker 4: What's a red envelope party.

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Speaker 1: I'm still not one hundred percent sure I get the idea.

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Speaker 1: But one of our listeners, Alvin, attended one the other

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Speaker 1: They have you fill out a dating survey and then

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Speaker 1: later based on the answers to your questionnaire. They bring

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Speaker 1: you a red envelope on a silver platter with the

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Speaker 1: supposed to meet that night of Alvin's person was Natalie,

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Speaker 1: So they met up, had a great time there until

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Speaker 2: I didn't ruin the night. It was just a memory.

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Speaker 3: The thing is he remembers it, so he wasn't too

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Speaker 3: dryk exactly.

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Speaker 1: The problem is now Natalie is ghosting, So Brook, take

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Speaker 1: a break from putting your reservation and at the red

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Speaker 3: My hometown was more like bush Light and you'd wrestle

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Speaker 3: a pig, you know they started. The problem is is

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Speaker 3: met somebody else that night. Yeah, Like that's the whole

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Speaker 3: point in the red envelope is so you go around and.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about before the envelopes were handed out, Yes, yea.

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Speaker 3: And like the friend that she had to find at

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Speaker 3: the end of the party air quotes was probably the

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Speaker 1: Alvin, did you notice Natalie speaking with any other guys?

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Speaker 5: I mean I did notice her speaking with other guys.

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Speaker 5: Not like you know, I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: That's what the point is.

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Speaker 3: That's it's not like they signed a contract that you

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Speaker 5: They don't know.

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Speaker 1: Who's in the red envelope for the first hour jet

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Speaker 1: it's a red envelope with a red flag attached to

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Speaker 1: I'm worried, but let's call Natalie here and see what

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Speaker 4: Here we go, Hello, Hey, is this Natalie?

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Speaker 6: Yes, this is Natalie. Who is this?

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Speaker 1: My name is jeff and I'm part of a radio

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Speaker 1: show called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning, and we're

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Speaker 4: To talk to you.

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Speaker 5: What.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually were given your phone number by one

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Speaker 4: It was kind of on a sort.

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Speaker 3: Of a date, met you at a dating party singles.

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Speaker 1: And this segment is called second Date Update because we're

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Speaker 1: if there's maybe chemistry or if if you feel the

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Speaker 1: same way. Thank you, Brooke. But this guy's name is Alvin.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: Remember him from the Red On Remember him?

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Speaker 5: Right? I do?

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Speaker 6: I do remember him. I'm just surprised.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Describe like what that party was like

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Speaker 4: Also, if it's one of those parties, you don't have

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Speaker 4: to describe too much.

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Speaker 6: So I just I had never been to one, so

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Speaker 6: I don't know what to tell you about it because

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Speaker 6: I didn't stay.

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Speaker 2: You didn't.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't say he stayed very long either. Did

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Speaker 3: you meet somebody else? Is that what it come down to,

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Speaker 3: which is totally fine, that's the whole point of the party, right,

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Speaker 3: success for you?

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Speaker 6: Well, I've had friends who have done these parties, Like

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Speaker 6: I was really just trying to experience it and leave

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Speaker 6: because my friends who've done his parties, they say that

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Speaker 6: You know that it can get pretty crazy, let's put

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Speaker 6: it that way. And I was just trying to get.

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Speaker 5: Out of there.

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Speaker 2: Is it really actually one of those.

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Speaker 1: Can you elaborate? What do you know what happens at midnight?

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Speaker 6: I heard that they open up these like other rooms

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Speaker 6: for activities after midnight, and I just that's not really

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Speaker 6: my damn, Like each one apparently has a theme.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, are you not calling Alvin back because

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Speaker 3: you think he stayed or are you not calling him

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Speaker 3: like I don't understand why you still be or the

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Speaker 3: fact that he was.

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Speaker 4: At that party.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think I made the assumption that

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Speaker 4: And that's not.

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Speaker 6: Really my thing. I'm not into that after midnight.

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Speaker 1: Well yourself if you think that you're making an assumption there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's fair to jump to a

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Speaker 1: full conclusion until we actually talked to Alvin himself.

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Speaker 2: Because he seems like such an innocent guy him.

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Speaker 1: And you don't even have to wait because Alvin is

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Speaker 1: on the other line right now, listening to this conversation

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Speaker 1: from a secret room in your studio.

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Speaker 5: Don't say that yes I'm here.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, what is happening?

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Speaker 5: Natalie?

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Speaker 2: Did I die? Did you stay after midnight?

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Speaker 5: Alvin?

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Speaker 4: Do you know what she's talking about with the extra

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Speaker 4: rooms that open up?

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Speaker 5: Yes? I do?

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Speaker 4: You do you and you're laughing?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean she laughed, and like I said,

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Speaker 5: I was kind of feeling it, you know, and I

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Speaker 5: was like, all here.

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Speaker 2: Well themption.

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Speaker 4: I'm afraid to go into any more details of what

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Speaker 4: actually happens. Did you partake or are you just enjoying

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Speaker 4: the view.

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Speaker 5: Brother, I was just enjoying the view.

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Speaker 3: Why in the world would you contact a radio show

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Speaker 3: if this is the type of event that you want to.

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Speaker 1: Why did you You didn't mention any of this to us?

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Speaker 5: True, you guys asked me to talk about the date part.

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Speaker 5: That's the part that I was interested in talking with

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Speaker 5: you guys about the rest of the party. In the

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Speaker 5: event and stuff is like another story.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well sure, but it's a pretty important detail.

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Speaker 5: I think to bring up, like the story end when

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Speaker 5: Natalie left, like afterwards, that was just on this.

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Speaker 2: You know, Okay, we don't need to I mean, is

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Speaker 2: this making you feel better or worse? Natalie?

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Speaker 6: I mean I don't like the idea of him watching

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Speaker 6: other people. Yeah, I don't like why does he want

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Speaker 6: to contact me because you.

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Speaker 5: Were not interested in Like I was thinking about you

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Speaker 5: the whole rest of the night, Like that's all I.

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Speaker 6: Want other people thinking of me.

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Speaker 2: That's so, well, why do you party if you're not

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Speaker 2: into that type of people? Like Natalie, wh what are

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Speaker 2: you doing?

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Speaker 3: That's actually but sometimes you don't know until you try it.

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Speaker 6: Right now, Yeah, I was trying to just do something

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Speaker 6: outside of the box because I'm not super adventurous, but

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Speaker 6: I definitely have boundaries as far as not wanting to

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Speaker 6: participate in the late night activities.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you guys are going to sound like I'm some

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Speaker 5: kind of total freaker's into like wild. This is the

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Speaker 5: first time, just like Natalie, the first time I ever

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Speaker 5: went to one of these things.

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Speaker 4: We're not judging. Some of us are jealous.

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Speaker 2: Like a podcast about these crazy.

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Speaker 4: How long were you there?

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Speaker 5: So like like three a little after tree, like three

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Speaker 5: thirty something.

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Speaker 4: You watched for three hours?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'll only really actually watched like this one

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Speaker 5: room called the ascot room. That's like the only one.

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Speaker 4: That I even the ascot room.

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Speaker 5: You know what ascots are, like those ties like scarfs.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's actually a smart idea, saber.

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Speaker 5: Pretty creative.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, that's so gross. I don't what I

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Speaker 6: say to that.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, he didn't use one of the ascots. He

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Speaker 1: just watched people with the ascots.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, but I like, oh no, I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why I shouldn't have pulled you out

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Speaker 6: of that bush. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Different meanings.

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Speaker 1: Before I ask officially, Alvin, is there anything else that

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Speaker 1: you want to say?

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Speaker 4: To Natalie like a like a final plea.

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Speaker 5: Maybe I just want to say, like I thought we

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Speaker 5: had a good turn before, and it's not like like

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Speaker 5: I said, I'm not like into that scene. That's not

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Speaker 5: like my place and my people or something. And you

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Speaker 5: got to admit we were having a good time at

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Speaker 5: least I think we were.

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Speaker 3: It's a good yeah, I mean, and he obviously his

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Speaker 3: intentions was to meet one person.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Well, I just need to know are you going

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Speaker 6: to go to the next one.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you wanted to go with me to

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Speaker 5: one of those, that would be cool, but I'm not

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Speaker 5: going to be going by myself.

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Speaker 2: Well I was a little soon to say that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not too soon to ask if we

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Speaker 1: can facilitate another meet up between the two of you.

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Speaker 4: We have a red envelope party over at Chili.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to see you in the baby bedroom.

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Speaker 6: That's what I was going to say, as long as

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Speaker 6: there aren't extra rooms being opened up after.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you're open to it, you know.

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Speaker 6: What I am, because like I said, I'm trying to

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Speaker 6: be adventurous. And it sounds like he went and he

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Speaker 6: committed to the experience, but it doesn't sound like it's

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Speaker 6: something that he does all the time.

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Speaker 4: Oh my Janitor's classes, gradus. You got yourself another day, Yes,

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Speaker 4: but I really am.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be so sweet when you guys tell this story.

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Speaker 5: When you met. Yeah, everybody has red as Scots in

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Speaker 5: the wedding party, just on honeymoon, his ascots.

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Speaker 4: No playing the billboard. Can watch

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Speaker 2: Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.