1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: Dos Aaron, what's nice to see you? 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 3: Good to see you. Have a question for you, my friend, 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 3: I do. I do think back to like I don't 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: know about you, but in my twenties, a lot of 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 3: the of the time was characterized by like dive bars, 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: vinyl records. Was that whole thing for that? 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: Yes? 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: Right? 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: This? 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: Okay? Well, this comes to us from ut a rude 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: dude on Instagram, Lindsay Max, and uh, it's okay. So 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 3: it involves Miller High Life. Okay, the Champagne. 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: Of spears, the Champagne beer. 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: And so they have this thing. I'm not going to 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: beat around the bush. I'm just going to get right 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: to it. They're selling this thing on their website, although 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: it is sold out, called Dive Bar Sounds, and let 19 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: me read you the description. No, Miller High Life is 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: bottling up the authentic sounds of dive bars. With Dive 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: Bar Sounds, the first ever beer infused vinyl record made 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 3: with the Champagne of beers inside. 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's in the record. 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: Oh look, it's like floating around. It's a it's a 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: hollow vinyl with beer floating in it. 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: From what I understand, I've watched like, you know, the 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: Jack White's White Stripe record plant where they make the record, 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: so I've seen recently how they do it, and like 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: they smear the stuff. How are you going to get 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: the beer in there? 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: Still? I don't know if it stays liquid. I haven't 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: seen any video of its spinning. 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: I mean, is its sealed in like a little looseight? 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: That's like that could be either way. 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: It's wild. 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: It continues that it's the only Like I said, it's 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: the first ever beer infused vinyl record made with a 38 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: champagne of beers inside. It says every dive bar tells 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: its story through sound. I would beg to differ. 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: I have a problem that statement will go. 41 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: On the welcome creek of the door, the familiar clink 42 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: of high Life, and the low hum of conversations. 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: Through highlight in there. 44 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, these iconic sounds are captured in this 45 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: high Life infused vinyl. No cover charge. Need to just 46 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: set the record spinning and let high Life bring the 47 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: soundtrack of your favorite neighborhood. 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: Spot to you. It's a recording of a bar. 49 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you're too depressed to leave the house 50 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: and you want to still drink your miller and you 51 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 3: can put that on in. 52 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: You know your my new writing music. I'm going to 53 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: get me one of these LPs. 54 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: Let me tell you the the tracks. 55 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: Oh there's music. 56 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: Side A Welcome to the Dive. It's a minute twenty 57 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: five okay, twenty six Champagne Nights, Happy Hour. 58 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: Wait, they're moving me through moods too quickly. 59 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: I know, rack them up. That's a four minute, five 60 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: second epic. At the end of side A, Side B 61 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: kicks off Regular's remix Another Round, and the last track 62 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: is last Call four minutes forty eight second, kicking me 63 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 3: out of the bar. Then they should have lights on. 64 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: It's a quick night. They're just rushing you through this. 65 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: Help it's so it's so cool but so not cool, so. 66 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: Just funny but upseting a very interesting area. 67 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what the that's what the vinyl looks like. 68 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 3: We'll put it up on Instagram. And I was like, 69 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: you know what I need one of these? Did you 70 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: do you get I don't go to dive bars anymore? 71 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: But it's sold out. 72 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: Now you're an eBay waiting with an. 73 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: I guess it doesn't it doesn't ship until July of 74 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. Wow, that's this year. Yeah, but that's 75 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: not anytime soon. 76 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: It's deep into the summer. 77 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: So AnyWho, God, like a hot night playing that, sitting 78 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: by yourself, pretending you have friends. 79 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: Throw on a crackling log and just like one of 80 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: those videos of on YouTube. 81 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: Hire someone to go in and pee all over your 82 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: bathroom so that when you go in there it's an 83 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: authentic feeling. And there's no toilet paper. Yeah, it sinks 84 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: backed up. That's ridiculous. 85 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: That ridiculous. Finally you got me on a mash up 86 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: I did. Okay, if you know what else is ridiculous, 87 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: please tell me. Okay, well, I would love to, so 88 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: I'll just start up top. Let's say you're wearing a costume. 89 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: You're wearing a costume. 90 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: Wow, God, that sounds good right now that we've said that. 91 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: What did I say? Why did I say that? Why 92 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: did I get you to say? Great question, Elizabeth. Let's 93 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: say you're wearing a costume. Don't invitate that a huge 94 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: furry mascot costume. 95 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: No no, no, no no no. 96 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: Ironically, you think you're invisible. You can do anything you 97 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: want because it's not you doing it, it's the mascot, 98 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: and that's how you get arrested. Today, I want to 99 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: tell you about folks who thought they were above the 100 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: law because they're wearing a mascot costume, which is ridiculous. 101 00:04:45,320 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. 102 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: This is ridiculous crime. A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, 103 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: ice and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free 104 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: and one hundred percent of ridiculous ridiculous. Oh, Elizabeth, Today 105 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you about masks. No, not 106 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: like the kind we wore in the height of the pandemic. 107 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: You know, I keep that thing on me. 108 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: I know you do. 109 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: I got it in my pocketbook because if I go 110 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: to the store and it's crowded, people of gross slap, 111 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: that thing goes on. 112 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm one of those folks who still where 113 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm on planes. 114 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: Like, someone said, why do you still wear your mask? 115 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: And I was like, because people are disgusting this full 116 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: full stop there it's there are a lot of things 117 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: out there. 118 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: Discuss disease bags. 119 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 120 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: Well, so I'm talking more about fun masks, like think 121 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: halloween masks, masks for pranks, silly rituals masks for decadent 122 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: sinister parties in Venice, Italy. 123 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 3: Those are terrifying. 124 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, right of fun. So which brings us to William 125 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: Golding's book Lord of the Flies. Okay, quite the leap, 126 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure. 127 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to hold the conk on this one. 128 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: Elizabeth. You remember this book obviously, so the nuns make 129 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: you read it at Catholic school. You read it on 130 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: your own. 131 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: We actually read it in Catholic school. 132 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: Okay, what do you guys have any insights on it 133 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: as an all girls school? 134 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. No. 135 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: Well, my man William Golding, friend of the show, was 136 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: a tremendous writer, poet, just an interesting cornishman, and he's 137 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: most famous for his first novel, Lord of the Flies. Now, 138 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: although it's one of those books you teachers make you read, 139 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: I would recommend it if you haven't read it. I 140 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: love that William Golding like uses this story about these 141 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: shipwrecked British schoolboys who are left on their own without adults, 142 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 2: and then it shows how they but really, any of 143 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: us can just pretty much speed run our way right 144 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: back to like humanity, savage. 145 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: Passage, yes, exactly, civilization. 146 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: Is just merely this thin patina we all wear on 147 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: our animal selves. 148 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: So in the fourth it's an honor system, yeah, that 149 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: we're finding doesn't really there's. 150 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: Unforcible, yes exactly, it's all a promisory note you hope 151 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: no one that cashes or we all pass along. Now. 152 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: In the fourth chapter of the book, Painted Faces in 153 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: Long Hair, that's the name of the chapter, Golding, he 154 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: focuses his keen powers of observation with the human condition, 155 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: on the power of masks to change who we are. 156 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: Right now, Lizabeth, I'm not sure if you remember this chapter, 157 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: but the key moments come during the early pig hunts. Okay, 158 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: so we have the two main characters, Ralph and Jack, 159 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: and they've seen the wild pig and the jungle at 160 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: this point, and the tusk boar it scares them because 161 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: it's a tusk boar, Yeah, the thing it can kill them. 162 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: And so Jack, the bully kid, is like, he's too 163 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: scared to kill the boar at first, but then this 164 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: ancient idea kind of takes hold of him and he 165 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: he smears charcoal on his face and he makes this 166 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: mask and allows him to believe he's invisible to the 167 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: wild pig, and this time the hunt is successful. He 168 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: kills the boar. Right now, the key part is when 169 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: he sees his reflection, when he sees himself in the 170 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: charcoal mask. Well, I'll just let William Golding tell go 171 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: back to the book quote. He looked in astonishment, no 172 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: longer at himself, but had an awesome stranger. He spilt 173 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: the water and leaped to his feet, laughing excitedly. Beside 174 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: the pool. His sinewy body held up a mask that 175 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: drew their eyes and appalled them. He began to dance, 176 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: and his laughter became a bloodthirsty snarling. He capered toward Bill, 177 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: and the mask was a thing on its own behind 178 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: which Jack hid, liberated from shame and self consciousness. So 179 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: William Coling just nails exactly what I'm talking about to him, right, 180 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: It's not just that Jack the wild man has come 181 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: to life, but the mask releases him, and the mask 182 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: allows his wild side just to emerge and wreck shop. 183 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: It does the same for all of us. Right, we 184 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: think we can kill the boar at least, you know, 185 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 2: it beat the pig. 186 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 3: Isn't it killed the pig? 187 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: Drink its blood, killed the pig. So Lizabeth did you 188 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: ever wear a Halloween costume where you had on a 189 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: mask that made you unrecognizable? Did you act out? 190 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: I don't know if I would act out those ones. 191 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: That clear mask was just like the makeup on They're terrifying. 192 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: They're terrifying, and so I used to like to wear 193 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: that kind of be creepy, creepier, I. 194 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: Should say of the week. 195 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: You know what's interesting, though, is I recently had to 196 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: get glasses aside from my reading glasses, distance glasses, and 197 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: I you know, didn't have them before. And when I'd 198 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: be out in public and i'd have glasses on my face, 199 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: there are sunglasses and it allowed me to stare at 200 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 3: people and they didn't know because I turned your head 201 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: a little bit off. And then I found myself doing 202 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: that with the regular glasses and being like, oh dang, 203 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: wait they see me. Oh boy, like everyone can see 204 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: my eyes. 205 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: Like I had to retrain. 206 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: Myself to not have that mask of the invisibility cloak 207 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: of sunglasses. 208 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: I know exactly what you mean. You give me a 209 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: pair of dark enough sunglasses, I will act wild. 210 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I were like blacked out, like big 211 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: stunner shades, like you can't see my face. It's a 212 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: whole shield before I but yeah, I can see like 213 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 3: a mask. I feel like that would also be more 214 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: appealing to little boys to wear the mask, And. 215 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: I don't know about that from what we're finding it. 216 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: So the psychology has a term for this. It's called 217 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: d individuation. There's a psychologist, Leon Festinger. He coined this 218 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: term back in the nineteen fifties and he was coming 219 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: out of World War Two and he's trying to make 220 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: sense of how people do such monstrous things but do 221 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: it like it's a day job. And he Festinger finds 222 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 2: that d individuation is this process in which a situation 223 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: overcomes people and they feel they cannot be individuated or 224 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: isolated from others. That therefore they are anonymous. They are 225 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: one of many in the mob. They are masked by numbers. 226 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: They are unknowable and not responsible. Right. This also happens 227 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 2: in cities. Right, But this phenomenon takes all new aspects 228 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: in our modern times because well, just think of the Internet. Yeah, right, 229 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: It's just one giant mask. That's why people act so 230 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: foul and online in the ways that they would never 231 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: in person. The Internet is basically Halloween twenty four to seven, 232 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: three sixty five. Right, so people get they put on 233 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: a mask and start acting out. But what fun is 234 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: it to talk about all that? In seid, I want 235 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: to tell you about the stories with big furry mascots 236 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: got the mistaken idea that they had de individuated and 237 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: no one could live out. Yeah, they're not responsible for 238 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: they do. Of course, you know this idea is terribly wrong. 239 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: So you know, like when a toddler covers their eyes, 240 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: anythink they can't see you? Yeah, so let's take a 241 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: jog back to two thousand and six. We'll start local. Elizabeth, 242 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: I know your family are alumni. Are you a col fan? 243 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: Yes? 244 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, okay, so this one is special for you. 245 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: I found this one. Did you know that the mascot 246 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 2: of Cal's chief rival, Stanford, who we've talked about in 247 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: the past, the Stanford Tree, Stanford Tree got stories? Oh yeah, 248 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: did you know that Stanford Tree once got busted by 249 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: the UC Berkeley police. Why you ask, great question, Elizabeth. 250 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: Apparently the Stanford Tree, which is this as in, you know, 251 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: in case people don't know, an enormous seven foot tall 252 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: anthropomorphic redwood. 253 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: Essentially, we have a whole episode about it totally. 254 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: It's a great thing. And the Stanford versus Cal basketball game, 255 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 2: this Stanford Tree was doing what the Stanford Tree does best, 256 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: firing up the crowd, right. But inside the tree is 257 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: this this young woman, Aaron Lashnitz, a fifth year undergraduate 258 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: biology student at Stanford, right, and she was on one 259 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: that day. Aaron was like celebrating. Right. So a little 260 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: before halftime, Stanford Tree comes running out on the basketball court, 261 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: not at a home game, right, So onto the cowl court, 262 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: which they've been told they know they're not supposed to, 263 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: but they're at whatever. They start prancing around like at Stanford, 264 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: and they're taunting the Cow teams. They're fans, right, no 265 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: problem there, that's fine whatever, But if they were home 266 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: at Stanford, they'd be totally kosher. But it's not kosher 267 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: because they're at Berkeley. So Berkeley, you know, they assist 268 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: an athletic director starts getting irritated. He gathers some Cal cops, 269 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 2: right because for away game, Sanford Tree is supposed to 270 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: keep her jubilations or in case of their jubilations, confined 271 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: to the area just under the basket, opposite of the action. Right, 272 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: they're not supposed to even go really on the court. 273 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 3: They give me kind of it's pretty standard. 274 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going out almost into like half court. Basically 275 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: they're practically in the game. Yeah. Like I said, Stanford 276 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: Tree was on one that day. She was feeling herself, 277 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: so she keeps going out there dancing her arboreal ass off. Right, 278 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: But this caught the attention, and they said UC Berkeley 279 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: Police cal assistant athletic director. Eventually he blows his top, 280 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: so he says like, hey, he makes the cops go 281 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: and do cop behavior at her. So you start casting 282 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 2: a suspicious eye at the Stanford Tree, and that's when 283 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: they notice it, right. They apparently when she wasn't dancing 284 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: on court, the Stanford Tree was sipping on a flask 285 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: that she'd secreted inside the tree mascot costume. I don't 286 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 2: even know how she was doing that, but the cows 287 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: assistant athletic director, this dude, Kevin Clintworth, he said, quote 288 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: she was taking drinks inside the tree. The officers could 289 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 2: see the flask through the costume because. 290 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: It's sort of mesh in between the various tears. 291 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: Exactly, and especially around the facebook with the big eyes. 292 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: A spokesperson for the Stanford band, who they're in charge 293 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: of the Stanford Tree. They defended their Redwood mascot, arguing 294 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: that quote she wasn't doing anything offensive. She was just 295 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: jumping and dancing. The tree's movement is usually consistent with 296 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: that of someone who's had something to drink. It is 297 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: because apparently she was just drunkenly eventually dancing around. He 298 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: got this drunken Stanford Tree completely. So I mean think 299 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: of it as like a line of defense your honor. 300 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: Is impossible for law enforcement to discern if my client 301 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: is intoxicated, because they always appear to be under the 302 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: influence closed. So what happened to the Stanford Tree? You see? 303 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: Berkeley treats the Stanford Tree just like any other perp there. 304 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 2: I don't care if you're a mascot. So they take 305 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 2: her off the court, They make her do a field 306 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: sobriety test. The Stanford Tree blows a point one five 307 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: blood alcohol. Oh yeah, twice a legal limit. Right, that's 308 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: enough that she could catch a drunk driving But because 309 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: she's in public, she catches a charge of public drunkenness. 310 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: Oh. I was gonna say, like, what operating a costume? 311 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: So how do you get her. 312 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no such thing as operating a tree while intoxicated. 313 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,239 Speaker 3: Well, and I think that it's you know, the university 314 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: is state property. I don't know about alcohol consumption. Oh, 315 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if you. 316 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: Can state park it's a state property. 317 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like there may be I don't know. 318 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: No, but you can't be you can't be terribly drunk 319 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: in public and on state property. They can say, oh, 320 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: we're you know, using the rights of state property against you. 321 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: It's kind of like private property. Someone can go, hey, 322 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: I'm kicking you out because you're too drunk, like in 323 00:14:59,640 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: a bar. 324 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 325 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: Anyway, So my point being, what happens to the Stanford 326 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: tree now that she's been told, hey, you've blown a 327 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: point one time, you gotta stop operating the tree, pull 328 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: over the tree. 329 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: Dehydration levels and then sucking out of a flask, sipping 330 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: like whiskey or she's drinking vodka and brown liquor. 331 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh got it. Yeah. So at this point 332 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: they tell her like, look, you have to leave, but 333 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: they don't. 334 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: Want her to, ma'am. 335 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: They can't want her to drive, right, so they's like, 336 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: let's wait for you to catch a ride with the band. 337 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: You can wait, but they're like, we can't kick her out, 338 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: and so they let her wait in the grand stand. 339 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: And there's no mention in the news stories if if 340 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: she took off the mascot costume. But I like to 341 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: think she's still dressed as the tree up there in 342 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: the grand stand, kind of like swerving, like getting lazy by, 343 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: like late in the game, she's leaning back on somebody. 344 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: So asked about this incident Aaron, the student inside the tree, 345 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: she said she doubted the cops b a c test. 346 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: She suggested the quote, I don't think that these things lie. 347 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: But I felt fine and I was certainly able to 348 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: do my job. So your honor, well, my clienty have 349 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: had a drink or too, and in no way did 350 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: the alcohol impair their performance as a cheerleading tree who 351 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: already x drunk. 352 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: She she can easily operate at a point two point 353 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: two five. 354 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: I've seen her, and the tree is already technically supposed 355 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: to act drunk. So really is consistent? Yeah, this is 356 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: on veme on brand. So Elizabeth, if you're wondering, Yes, 357 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: the Aarin, the student inside the Stanford Tree, was suspended, 358 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: but not from school, just from being the mascot tree. 359 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: It shouldn't affect her academic career. 360 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: No, it really shouldn't well rated. Let's let's keep it 361 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: forest based because I also have a Robinhood story for you. Okay, Now, 362 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: he's a mascot, so who dresses up as Robin Hood 363 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: in Sherwood Forest, but not the one in England. Instead, 364 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: he was busted outside of Little Rock, Arkansas, because there's 365 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: a Sherewood, Arkansas. 366 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: Was he dressed as the as the cute animated fox. 367 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: No, no, Robin hood Yoh yeah, the mascot he was 368 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: getting busted. I found the story from local KATV at 369 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: a Little Rock at Arkansas aka seven on your Side, 370 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 2: and the lead was I was driving by here and 371 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: I saw a man dressed like Robin Hood, handcuffed and 372 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: talking to police officers, said Sherwood resident Michael Levy. 373 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: Like Kevin Costner Robin Hood style. 374 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, but more like cartoony version, like with pockets on 375 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: his little green outfit and the green tights and like 376 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: a little hat like so it's more like Errol Flynn 377 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: thirty style. 378 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 3: I love it. 379 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So nine centuries ago in the. 380 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 3: Brian I'm sorry to interrupt again, was Brian Adams. 381 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: Anywhere in the area. 382 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: His famous he should have been Robin Hood. 383 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: What a menace that guy was. I saw a meme 384 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 2: recently about what a menace he was in the nineties 385 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: with that song. He had, a song wouldn't go away 386 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: for like months. 387 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: Can I make a confession, Oh. 388 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: My goodness, just when I thought I respected you. 389 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 3: I don't know how I came into possession of it, 390 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: but I had. 391 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: I don't even back in my day. Kids, So nine 392 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: centuries ago, in the time of Richard, you may remember 393 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: this Elizabeth with Richard the Lionheart and his brother Prince John. 394 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 2: This would have been huge news that Robinhood was busted. 395 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: Oh well, you know, a kitchen Robinhood. Huh. But it's 396 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: funny was it was barely any news in you know, 397 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: when some schmow and a foam suit gets caught in 398 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 2: the Arkansas woods. Anyway, story goes from last year sixty 399 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: four year old local Robert Walla, who was the one 400 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: who likes to dress up as Robin Hood and tight. 401 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: He had a bow and arrow, but not the real kind. 402 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: It was a toy bow and arrow like your five 403 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: year old nephew would play with. Yes, exactly, so there 404 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: he is with his Robinhood garb, his toy bow and arrow, 405 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: and he's spotted spray painting graffiti. Don't ask me why, 406 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: but he had a message he wanted to get out 407 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: to the world. 408 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: I was so excited. 409 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't even have the I could not 410 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: find the messages. How daring, just to drive you nuts, 411 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 2: That's why. So Robinhood mascot was very respectful, though, Elizabeth, 412 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: because he brought his own plywood board, fixed it to 413 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: the wall, and then painted his graffiti that I won't 414 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: tell you on the board, which feels like how you 415 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: would do graffiti. You know, cops would spend spot you 416 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 2: tagging a building where you've like put up the woods 417 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: so you're not doing any damage. 418 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 3: To the build the business trouble. 419 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: I also, can you imagine the cops and they spot 420 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: Robin Hood tagging the building, They whip around their patrol 421 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: cruisers and then go and confront him, and then he's like, oh, 422 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: I won't tell you my real name or date of birth, 423 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: and so like, what did they do? 424 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 3: I have so many ideas as to what he was tagging. 425 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 2: I know, I think that's more fun, it's way more so. 426 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to do some investigatings. 427 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: You can find it. So they arrest Robinhood, true outlaw 428 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: that he was, you know, toy bow and arrow and all. 429 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: He gets charged with second degree criminal mischief and obstructing 430 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 2: governmental operations. I think the real Robinhood would have been proud. Yeah, 431 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 2: he also got unmasked before the community because the local 432 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: Robinhood secret identity was revealed. He wore like a little 433 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: like mask that covered his eyes. I guess it works. 434 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: So Tom Reline, owner and operator Sherwood Starter and alternator 435 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: said of his friend Robert Walla aka Secret Robin Hood 436 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: of Sherwood, Arkansas. Quote, I found out he was Robert Wallam. 437 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 2: I was surprised because Robert would do anything for you. 438 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: He's always been real nice, helped me out. Like they 439 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: find out he's all of a sudden, he's like he 440 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: must be a villain, you know, which is a bad man. 441 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: I once had him in my home, you know, noting around. 442 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 3: It's the most horrific graffiti. We're just chuckling it up 443 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 3: and then it's just like killy, Yeah, something that I 444 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 3: can't even think or set. Oh boy, howdy, let's let 445 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: you cool your mind. 446 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 2: Take a break. After the messages, I'll tell you about 447 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: the hockey mascot Gritty and how we got in trouble 448 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 2: for beating up a kid. 449 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: I love. 450 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: Elizabeth. We're back. I promise you story about your favorite 451 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: NHL mascot, Gritty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the furry, orange haired 452 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: monster from the city of brotherly love, the living embodyment 453 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: of Philly sports fans. 454 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: I have a T shirt with Gritty on. Yeah, I know, 455 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 3: I love that Four Seasons landscaping and it's Gritty on 456 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 3: a riding mower. 457 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: Brilliant. You get these shirts sources so well, Gritty maybe 458 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: the mascot for the Philadelphia Flyers. He's really the mascot 459 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: for the city of Philadelphia. Yeah, particularly their sports fandom. Yeah, 460 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 2: you're familiar with Philly sports fans, Elizabeth and how hectic 461 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: they are. 462 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: They're amazing. 463 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah right, Okay, so Philly Flyers. They their website describes 464 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: Gritty in these brilliant terms. Quote. Gritty is best known 465 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: for his uniquely Philadelphian personality as well as his Flyers fandom. 466 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: His uniquely Philadelphian personality is creating. It sounds like somebody 467 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 2: talking about a wine. This wine. His nose is earthy 468 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: and grom buzz It's top note has a uniquely Philadelphian. 469 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: Personal, Jilly from Philly, So returning. 470 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: To the Philadelphia Flyers website, they also describe Gritty's unique 471 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: appearance as quoth, standing at seven feet tall with non 472 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: blinking googly eyes, covered head to toe in orange fur, 473 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: and an unkempt beard. Gritty's appearance is inimitable. Gritty's edgy 474 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 2: personality and temperamental attitude have allowed him to push the 475 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: envelope of what is possible or acceptable for a team. 476 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: Mascot Gritty just looks unhanded, totally hospital Yes, and I 477 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 3: love that the best. I love it. 478 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: So that last statement is where our story begins. One day, 479 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: Gritty decided to really test, to not just push the 480 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: envelope to shove it. 481 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 3: I love that. 482 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: So in January twenty twenty, headlines broke across the sports 483 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: world ESPN like they all shouted out Philadelphia Flyers mascot 484 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: Gritty accused of punching child. 485 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 3: Well, what would the kid do? 486 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: Yes? Right, find out? So boom, there you go, Gritty. 487 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 2: Let's really test this proposition. Let's find out together how 488 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 2: far Gritty's edgy personality and tell him out. A latitude 489 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: have allowed him to push the envelope. So the story goes, 490 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: and I quote Chris Greenwell claims the mercurial, orange haired 491 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: creature took a running start and punched my son as 492 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: hard as he could during I'll get to that in 493 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: a second, during a meet and greet photo shoot for 494 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: season ticket holders in November at the Wells Fargo Center. 495 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: End quote. Kid was a teenager right now, a young 496 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: teenager in my head, just closer to tween. 497 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 3: Hey, but in my head it was running back and 498 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: forth between like three eight said. 499 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: Right, I thought that was more fun to picture. You're like, 500 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: what would be the what were the acceptable age? The 501 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: point you're like, okay, across the line where Griddy can 502 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: take that kid out? So now Greedy once he attacked 503 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 2: the kid and the father was upset. He didn't originally 504 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 2: approach the Philadelphia police with a complaint. Instead, the father 505 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: took the Facebook to let the world know what the 506 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: furry orange menace had done to his boy and Elizabeth. 507 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 2: He made it seem like a serious altercation, as Daddy 508 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: Greenwell wrote on Facebook that his baby boy Brandon, went 509 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: to visit a chiropract after after Gritty gave him the 510 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: alleged beatdown, and the chiropractor diagnosed a quote contusion to 511 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: the lower thoracic spine with subluxation. Now that's a lot 512 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 2: of fancy jargon, which is what you have to expect 513 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: from a chiropractice since they're trying to justify their profession. 514 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: But anyway, what all those words really mean is that 515 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: baby boy Brandon had a bruise aka a contusion, and 516 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: a subluxation means a misaligned or dislocated joint or socket. 517 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: So the chiropractor is basically saying the boy has a 518 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: bruise on his back and his spine got knocked out 519 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: a whack. 520 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 3: So did the dad just watch Gritty beat his kid 521 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 3: and then not do anything? Is that what we're saying? 522 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: Pulled the boy away? 523 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: Happened here? 524 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a Philadelphia father. I don't really know which. 525 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 3: Way of players don't make any sense. 526 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 2: Washed or if he rooted them all plant. I know 527 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 2: he didn't throw blows at Gritty because that wasn't in 528 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: any of the. 529 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 3: Descriptions, right, But that's what I'm saying, is this guy 530 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 3: like attacks your kid and you just go you know 531 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 3: what I'm going to write a facebookline group Chiropractor. 532 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: So Daddy Greenwell he levels all his serious charges on Facebook. 533 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: I mean, come, keep your business off of Facebook. That's 534 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: my thing. 535 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: Good advice at all times. 536 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 3: Right, just keep yourself. 537 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: He tells the world that he'd taken his son to 538 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 2: an event for a season ticket holders and while they're 539 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: there at the Orange and body met a Philly fandom 540 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: went haywire attacked his boy and when he contacted the 541 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Flyers organization, quote, they tried to bribe me not 542 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: to speak about it. 543 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: They like picture didn't happen. 544 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: So Eddie Rainwell goes and gives an interview with the 545 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Inquirer in which he recounted the mascot attack against 546 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: his baby boy. He said, his son Brandon, took a 547 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 2: photo of Gritty. After that he patted the mascot on 548 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 2: the head and he walked away. But Gritty didn't let 549 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: their interaction go there. Instead, he loaded up like a 550 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: bull about to charge, and then he ran at the teenager, 551 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: smashed into his back, knocking the boy off his feet. 552 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: Mascot or not, that's assault, Elizabeth, that's his story. 553 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: Okay. 554 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 2: Now, of course the Philadelphia police they've got to get 555 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: involved now because this is assault. So the South Detective's 556 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: Division of the Philly p D launch an investigation of 557 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: Gritty the Gritty affair, And that's when the story changes course, 558 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: because if you're gonna come for Gritty, you best not 559 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: miss Philly, right, So the February that same year, this 560 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: is the original stories. It took place in December. He 561 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 2: starts talking about in January, and then by February they 562 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: announced the police can be in a press conference to 563 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: announce their findings from their investigation into the Gritty affair. 564 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: Quote that investigation, which has been completed, is no longer 565 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 2: active determine what the actions of the individual portraying the 566 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: Flyers mascot did not constitute physical assault as alleged gritty innocent. Yes, 567 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: so I'm kind of surprised they didn't name check Gritty 568 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: in the statement. Though. You got a chance to say 569 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: gritty innocent, and you don't take that. Come about Philly PD. 570 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 3: You know that the kid didn't just pat gritty on. 571 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: This thirteen year old boy, didn't just pat him in 572 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: and walk. 573 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 3: Away violent like at Disney characters and stuff. 574 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: Oh. 575 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: He Sometimes it's like they're kind of deserving you mess 576 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: around and you find that this is. 577 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: How nature teaches, is what. 578 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 3: You're saying, saying touch the stuff, dude. 579 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't turn your back on the ocean. That's what 580 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: you mean. So in response, Daddy Greenwell said to the inquirer, 581 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: I respect the police's decision, but I stand by what 582 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: my son told me and what I saw, and I 583 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: just want to put this behind me. Any parent would 584 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 2: have done the same if they were in the same situation. 585 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 2: To your point, Elizabeth, done what watch a team mascot 586 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 2: go ham on? Your teenage son? Done what? 587 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: And then he loaded him into the. 588 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 2: The ro Maybe try to shake down an NHL team. 589 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: Any parent would do that, Buddie, I totally agree. Well 590 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: the next douve, Elizabeth, I've got a story for you 591 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: about that one time when the University of Miami mascot 592 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: Sebastian that Ibbis went toe to toe with the Tallahassee police. 593 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: Already cursed Elizabeth, Are you an sec in particular in 594 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: acc football? Fair? 595 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: I have no idea what that means. 596 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: It's college football, different dogs. 597 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 3: Is it like ac DC kind of kind of like 598 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 3: that your. 599 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 2: Voltage good Southern football? Yeah, so like Miami and. 600 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: I didn't go to I didn't go to school in 601 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: the South. 602 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: Yes, so you don't know. 603 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: I don't know anything about it. I only cheer for 604 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: schools right when there. 605 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: You go, Well, uh, Miami powerhouse football program. You may 606 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: not know that Florida State also in tallahassee another one. 607 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 3: I believe you. 608 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 2: So this was especially true back in nineteen eighty nine, 609 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: where our story takes place. Oh now, I'm not overselling 610 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: it to say that Florida State Miami game used to 611 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: be one of the biggest games in college football, which 612 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: I don't watch, but plenty of my friends do, so 613 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: I know that it's a big game, and I looked 614 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 2: it up the television ratings back then, like, well, say, well, 615 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: I don't have this a tame par with Oh not that, 616 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: But the two thousand and six game between Miami and 617 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 2: Florida State was the second most viewed college football game 618 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: regular season bowl game in the history of ESPN. They 619 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: averaged six point three million households. Right, it trailed only 620 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety four game between Miami and Florida State, 621 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: which also notched a high rating at seven point seven 622 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: on the Richter scale. 623 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, sure, I'm more of a UC 624 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: Davis versus Sacramento State rivalry. 625 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: Go there, you go there Causeway Classic. 626 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: Which when it airs gets you know, dozens of you hundreds. 627 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes the Nielsen ratings just had to get a new needle. 628 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: But it's on there. 629 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: Hello, more sensitive. 630 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: No, are you familiar at all? I doubt you are 631 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: with the mascots for University of Miami a k a. 632 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: The you Sebastian. 633 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: Yes, the Ibbys, right is a bird like cream. 634 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: Good. 635 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: You're smart, you know you know this now. Uh, let's 636 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: see the Ibbis. He had his name. Do you remember 637 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: that Sebastian? Okay, good, keep that in your mind. 638 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: I just in my head you said it. I saw 639 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: Sebastian book from Schidrow. 640 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: Perfect the great mental association on his bird legs. 641 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: That's how this is the cartoon in. 642 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: My very genius. So do you know the mascot for 643 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: Florida State, Jeff, No, guess though. It's a Seminole warrior 644 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: named Oolah. Okay, yeah, the Seminole Leader war Chief. And 645 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: they have him on an apple lusa horse that they 646 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: named Renegade, not. 647 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: A weak legged bird. 648 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the flour legs apple like painted horse and they 649 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: named him Renegade. Didn't that sound familiar? Renegade? Yes, that 650 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: was Barack Obama's code name for the Secret Service's right. 651 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: I looked it up and I found the Michelle Obama 652 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: also had a code name for the Secret Service. Hers 653 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: was Renaissance, which now I want to know, do Beyonce 654 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: know that? And that's why she gave the album is 655 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: a nod to Michelle Black Queen. 656 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: I wonder. 657 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: Also Malia and Sasha they were Radiance and Rosebud And 658 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: if you've seen Citizen Kane, that's kind of a weird 659 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: choice for your daughter, very strange. So anyway, back to Florida. 660 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 3: I love those two crazy kids. 661 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, heck yeah, because. 662 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: Right now they're just wild. Now they do their thing 663 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: and they're allowed to just be young women going crazy, Yeah, 664 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 3: totally living their lives. 665 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: I think that after being the first daughters, like you got. 666 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: The scrutiny and the threats. 667 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: Totally, and also you had to hold it down as 668 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: a teen. I couldn't do that, so so awkward. 669 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: I mean, look at poor Chelsea Clinton. Yes, totally, you 670 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 3: know it's it's I hate for. 671 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: Jamy Carter, the Roosevelt, Carl Teddy's daughter. 672 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly. 673 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: Now Oceola, the Florida State mascot and renegade, all right, 674 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: So the thing about him for each before each home game, 675 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: after the team is introduced, the mascot comes riding bareback 676 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: out hard, charging into the stadium. He carries proudly a 677 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,239 Speaker 2: flaming lance or if you prefer, a burning spear, just 678 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: like the reggae band Elizabeth I was. 679 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: Just listening to earlier. 680 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: Today, tying it all together for you. 681 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: It's all coming. 682 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: So the mascot Ociola comes out riding his spirited pony 683 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: across the football field, and when he gets to the 684 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: fifty yard line, he like rears up and then he 685 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: like hurls the spirit the earth and he buries the 686 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: flaming lance, the burning spear, right in the center of 687 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: the field. It's like this consecration that blesses the game. 688 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: Sure, and damages the field. 689 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: Go on, not really, but if you're wondering, yes, he 690 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: is wearing face pain and moccasins and he rides the 691 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: horse bear back. So it's a very stylized image of 692 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: the native Seminole population. But they signed off on it. 693 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: The Oklahoma Seminols are not so keen on it. But 694 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: the Florida Seminoles are I think I should make that distinction. 695 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell people who like if they should 696 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: be outraged totally. 697 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: Well, they have like con tracks and deals and stuff. 698 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: The profit go for it now. Before ocial that they 699 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: had problems, there was Sammy Seminole. 700 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: Okay, that's probably a little bit. 701 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: He was a white guy from the gymnastics team who's 702 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: painted in red facing. He did like cheerleading style tumbling 703 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: that became embarrassing back in nineteen sixty eight. Yeah, So 704 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: they replaced Sammy Seminole with Chief full the Bull who. Yeah, 705 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: he also wore a Native American costume, war red face 706 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 2: and did the whole Indian on the warpath thing. He 707 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: was equally embarrassing. After students protested him specifically, the university 708 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: was like, we hear you, we understand, we're making changes. 709 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: Stop. 710 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: So they changed the name to Chief Wampum stomp them. 711 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: Nothing else changed. 712 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 3: The name. 713 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: You want Chief Wampom. How are you so that wasn't 714 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: the change the students were After they kept protesting, the 715 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: university rolled out a whole new mascot named Yehola, and 716 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: he was to be the spirit chief. In the late seventies, 717 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: someone else came along, a local Tallahassee businessman. He come 718 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: up up with the whole concept for Oceola and Renegade, 719 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: which is a bit more dignified replacement. The local seminole 720 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: population is signed off on it. So boom. So now 721 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: you have this nineteen eighty nine Oceola is burning spear. 722 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: Come out, Miami mascot out there, as you said, thin 723 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: legged seabird. Then the team is called. 724 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: Like how much like if you're trying to be like 725 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: intimidating and impressive, bring out ocola, don't have what is. 726 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: It renegade Timmy? Oh you know the guy gymnast Sammy 727 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: Sammy seminole. 728 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: Timmy towflipper. Yeah, don't let that happen. 729 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: Well, so the Semastians is a little weak. I got 730 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: it a bird, but you just like Miami's team is 731 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: called the Miami Hurricanes, like the canes, Like they could 732 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: have a hurricane as a mascot. I don't know how 733 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: you would represent that though. That's a little bit difficult. 734 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: I guess just like swirling like costume like foam, and. 735 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: There's a lot of costume. There's like a delicate bird. 736 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: Yes, it's not working like Alabama though they are a 737 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: red tide. Rode would just say an algae balloom, like 738 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 2: a dead algae balloom. Yeah, just says a lot about 739 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: Alabama sports. Anyway, back to Florida State Miami game nineteen 740 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 2: eighty nine. Rather than me tell you about this, Elizabeth, 741 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: I'd like you to close your eyes, I'd like you 742 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 2: to picture it. It's just before game time. You're standing 743 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 2: waiting to run out onto the field because you are 744 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: the assistant to Miami Hurricanes head coach Dennis Ericson. Around 745 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: you stand a team of college stars, all waiting to 746 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: go to war with their in state rival, Florida State. 747 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 2: The energy is intense. Everyone is fired up. Standing next 748 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 2: to you is Sebastian the Ibbis, the costumed basscut dressed 749 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: as an enormous white bird. The thin legged Ibbis is 750 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 2: all hyped up too, and he's holding a fire extinguisher. 751 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: You don't need to be told why he's holding a 752 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: fire extinguisher. You know for the last two years the 753 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: Ibbis mascot is run out onto the field and pantomimed 754 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: that he would go on into the field and put 755 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: out the burning spear of but he never does. This year, 756 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: he's planning on doing the same bit, or is he. 757 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: The mascot has a devilish look in his eye, shining 758 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: out from underneath the giant bird head. Some Florida State 759 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: cops are standing close by. They also see the devilish 760 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: look in his eye, the same one you do, and 761 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 2: the fire extinguisher in his hands, the same one you see. 762 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: They start to approach, but then you hear coach Dennis 763 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: Erickson show, let's go. The team charges out onto the field. 764 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: They stampede, their cleats clatter against the cement, and then 765 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: fall quiet when they hit the grass. But you are 766 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: still standing there because the Florida State Cops have pushed 767 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: past you and grab Sebastian the Ibbis and won't let 768 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 2: him go. The cops shout at the bird mascot, give 769 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: me the extinguisher, Give it to me. The cops crowd 770 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 2: around the Giant bird, shoving and knocking you about up 771 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 2: against the wall. They wrestle over the fire extinguisher. Sebastian 772 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 2: the Gibbis isn't giving up without a fight, and as 773 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: he fights against the Florida State cops, his hands squeeze 774 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: the fire extinguisher trigger, white fire retarget phone shoots out. 775 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 2: It hits the cops recoil and shock. The white foam 776 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 2: hits you square in the face. You're pushed out of 777 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 2: the way by another cop as for more Florida State 778 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 2: cops rushed into the scene. There are now five cops 779 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 2: slamming the white Gibbs up against the stadium fence. You 780 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: white fire retarding from your eyes. It turns a little 781 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 2: and through your splinted keepers, you see Sebastian that ibb 782 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 2: is still throwing blows with the cops. He is now 783 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 2: has one wing lifted up while the other wing is 784 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: being forced behind his back by a burly cop. Another 785 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: cop has a firm grip on the bird's beak and 786 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: he's busy trying to yank the costume head clean off, 787 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 2: but it won't come off. You see why, because there's 788 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: a defiant chin strap holding the bird head on and 789 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: it's starting to choke the guy inside the costume. You're 790 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: worried about him, Elizabeth, you know he's a good kid. 791 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: The crowd spots the bird mascot battling against the cops 792 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 2: and they start to boo. Some college kids Florida College kids, 793 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 2: likely already drunk, start throwing cans and cups at the cops. 794 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 2: You are now ducking phone, beer cans and bottles. As 795 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: you hear the officers out at the bird telling him 796 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: his Miranda rights into his costumed head. You don't know 797 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 2: what to do, but then you see the Miami cheerleading 798 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 2: coach come run over to stop the fray. You gather 799 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: up your nerve and you tell the cops, hey, leave 800 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 2: the bird alone. The cops suddenly realize how silly they look, 801 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 2: five of them beating on a man in a bird 802 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 2: costume to stop him from pretending to put out a 803 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: symbolic fire to consecrate a football game rivalry. They yanke 804 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 2: Sebastian the Ibbis back up onto his feet. He thanks 805 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 2: you for trying to help save him, while the perky 806 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: and pissed off Miami cheerleading coach gives the cops the 807 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: what for. So there you go, Elizabeth, you did it, 808 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: You defended your bird. Way to go you now. As 809 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: for Sebastian the Ibbis, the fella inside, he was forced 810 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 2: to wait with the police until after Osiola and Renegade 811 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 2: perform their football ritual. Then the head cop in charge 812 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: told him if he dared to set foot on that field, 813 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: he'd beat his bird brains in and take him to 814 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: jail just for kicks. 815 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a threat. 816 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, The guy inside the costume said, quote, I'm not 817 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 2: stupid enough to actually put out the flame. I wouldn't 818 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 2: get out of Tallahassee if I did it. So I 819 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 2: didn't stop him from messing with the Florida State Cops though, 820 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 2: just for a little bit, just for kicks. Being the 821 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 2: frisky bird that I was, every time that Miami would 822 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 2: do something, I'd look back at the cops and wave. 823 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 2: I was kind of egging them on a little bit 824 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 2: tough in the end, because I know you are curious. 825 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 2: Cane's lost to the seminoles twenty four ten. It is 826 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 2: take a little break, elizab and after these messages, we 827 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: can do more mascot crimes. And I saved the best 828 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 2: for last. I'll give you a one word hint, Chewbacca. 829 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 5: Oh yes, Elizabeth, we're back. 830 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: This next one doesn't involve any college football or historic 831 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 2: mascots said. It's a battle with Batman and Superman who 832 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: team up to beat up wait for it, tourists in 833 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: Times Square. Oh no, yes, you've been to Times Square, Yes, 834 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 2: I have. You've seen all the mascots that work there, 835 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 2: hustling the tourists for photos for a donation. Yeah right, 836 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 2: You throw bows, can't catch sharp elbows. Now keep that 837 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 2: energy in mind as they tell you this, Elizabeth. It's 838 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. It's a Saturday night in Times Square, packed 839 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 2: with tourists, but especially younger ones because it's late night, 840 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 2: about ten o'clock. The mascots are still out entertaining the 841 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: crowds though. There's Jose Escalona Martinez, the forty one year old. 842 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 2: He's dressed as Batman. Then there's his mascot buddy, Abdel 843 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 2: el Kahazai, thirty five years old. He's dressed as Spider Man. 844 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: They're at forty fourth and Broadway. The crowd is lively. 845 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: The mascot's thrown down superhero stances. They're posing with tourists 846 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 2: for photos. Everyone's having fun. Then a couple of twenty 847 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 2: three year olds happened upon the scene. They start to 848 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 2: heckle the billionaire vigilante in his web slinging pal and 849 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 2: at one point one of the twenty three year olds, 850 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: the dude named Thomas Rourke, he grabs Batman from behind. 851 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 2: But that's not all, Elizabeth. He also rattles the cave 852 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 2: Crusader and he starts screaming, I'm gonna fuck you Batman. 853 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna Batman. Oh no, well, well they may only 854 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 2: be pretend superheroes, they still do have protective instincts when 855 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 2: their friend is being assaulted. So Spidey jumps in to 856 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 2: save Batman. Yeah, spectacular, spider Man does his spider Man thing. 857 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 2: Thomas Rourke had hands though, for the web Slinger. So 858 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 2: now they are going and throwing blows and but Thomas 859 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 2: Rourke is still in his you know, I don't know 860 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 2: joky mood. He grabs Spidey by his butt cheeks. Now, 861 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 2: there was no reports of him promising to sex up Spidey, 862 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 2: but that may be due to the web slingers spidy 863 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: fast reflexes in Spidey senses, because he spun around real quick, 864 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 2: and he shot webbs at the twenty three year old 865 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 2: right right in his face, the one who could grab 866 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 2: his licra clad cheeks. Yeah. No, well, since he's not 867 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 2: a real spider Man, Elizabeth. 868 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't have webs like silly strings. 869 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 2: He didn't exactly shoot webs. Yeah. No, he shot his 870 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: reasonable facts simile, which was exactly that silly string. 871 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 3: You know him though, this is especially heinus I'm calling 872 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 3: Detective two tool. 873 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 2: He would tell you silly string is the name of 874 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 2: a drug. 875 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 3: Go oh yeah, completely. 876 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: So Rourke got hit with the webs aka at the 877 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 2: silly string. He goes full Sandman and starts walloping Spider 878 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 2: Man with blows to his last space. In response, spider 879 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 2: Man throws hands back and Batman joins in. When the 880 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: cops get there, it looks like Batman and Spider Man 881 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 2: handling a beat down to two tourists. So now the 882 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 2: NYPD jumps in and they try to pull Batman and 883 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 2: Spider Man off these twenty three year olds spider Man 884 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 2: Dennis spider Man. So they arrest Batman and spider Man 885 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 2: and Batman aka Escalona Martinez and Spider Man akl el 886 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 2: Kahaz were charged with mystery meanor assaults. They spent the 887 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 2: night in Manhattan Criminal Court aka the inspiration for one 888 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: of my favorite shows ever, Night Court. 889 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 3: Right. 890 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so after their night in Manhattan Criminal Court, then 891 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: they got sent to lock up. Once they're locked up, 892 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 2: rather ironically, spider Man's able to bail himself out. Batman 893 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 2: doesn't have the funds to post the sub fifty bail. Yeah. 894 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 2: So okay, now I got one more for you. And 895 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 2: this is a two parter that connects to what I 896 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 2: just told you, so keep those names in mind. It 897 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 2: also features a Spider Man who throws hands. As The 898 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 2: New York Post described the scene quote, a panhandler dressed 899 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 2: as the iconic web Slinger repeatedly punched a cop in 900 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 2: the face during a violent Time Square tussle Saturday afternoon. 901 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 2: Police said, Now that doesn't really seem fair to Spidery, 902 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 2: or even an accurate summation. So the story goes Spider 903 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 2: Man was posing for photos with tourists in Times Square. 904 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 2: He was charging for the pleasure, as they do, and 905 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 2: it's it's his job, it's a fair job, whatever, So 906 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 2: he was asking for ten dollars for a photo. Roughly 907 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 2: two PM. Some cop ambles by walking the beat. He 908 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 2: hears Spider shaking down the tourists saying fives, tens or 909 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 2: twenties only pisses the cop off. You gotta stop hassling 910 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 2: these tourists, right. For some reason, the cop goes like 911 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 2: ham on him. He comes over It's like he's gonna 912 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 2: protect the tourists in Times Square, I mean, which is 913 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 2: what they do ever since Disney brought up the real 914 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 2: estate right now, he goes he's gonna be all tough 915 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 2: guy about it. So he confronts Spider Man. He asked 916 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 2: Spider Man for I D right. So Spider Man must 917 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 2: have been having a bad one because he told the cop, you, 918 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 2: this is none of your business. Oh so now the 919 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 2: cop makes it his business, and Spider Man whips off 920 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 2: his mask and he begins to insult the cop in 921 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 2: front of the kids in the family, and you know 922 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 2: what comes next. The cop decides he should arrest Spider 923 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 2: Man in front of the kids in the family, of course, 924 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 2: because they had all lost sight of the original intention, 925 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 2: which is amusing the kids in the family. So the 926 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 2: cop demands the lycra clad mascot submit to his will. 927 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 2: Spider Man's not down to do that, so they start 928 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 2: escalating once again. I said, this is all parents, families, 929 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: tourists are sitting there watching this. They also start filming 930 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 2: the confrontation, so there's all this footage of Spider Man 931 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: in the New York Finest throwing blows. Spider Man eventually 932 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 2: catches the cop with two full roundhouse punches to the 933 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 2: dome cap goes flying. Yeah, it's comical. At this point, 934 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 2: a police woman runs over and jumps into the fray. 935 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 2: Other mascots gather around because they're all really close right there, right, 936 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 2: And so between families you got like Mickey Mouse, Mini Mouse, Superman, Elmo, 937 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 2: Captain America and these shocked kids and these disappointed parents, 938 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 2: and then these angry cops pushing past them to go 939 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 2: throw blows at Spider Man. Right so, if you can 940 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 2: see on the video, they're shocked, like Minie Mouse holding 941 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 2: her hands up to her enormous mascot head, like what 942 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 2: is going on now? Is more cops rush into the scene. 943 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 2: They're finally able to subdue the web Slinger, but he 944 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 2: won't go quietly. Right, So, now Spider Man is on 945 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 2: the ground resisting arrest, and one of New York's finest 946 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 2: shouts at Spidey stop resisting. O, my god, the kids 947 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 2: so horrible. Had they finally handcuffed Spider Man and take 948 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 2: him into custody. One of the beat cops stries to 949 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 2: calm the crying children and the shocked families by telling 950 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 2: them the real Spider Man would have never done something 951 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 2: like this. Look that's gonna go far for a five 952 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 2: year old, right, So fake Spider Man, his name is 953 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 2: Junior Bishop, and according to the other superhero mascots, the 954 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 2: NYPD had been hassling him for weeks. Right, they got 955 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 2: all this pressure to like regulate Times Square because apparently 956 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 2: people were complaining. Some of the mascots have been fighting. 957 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 2: So missus spider plan is, let's hassle them until they act, right. 958 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 2: So in our previous Time Square Batman Josehes Colona Martinez. 959 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: He also commented on this story, and he told The 960 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 2: New York Post that the beat cop quote has been 961 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 2: harassing Spider Man and everybody. He tells people you don't 962 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 2: have to tip, so he's like, OUI, they're trying to 963 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 2: bust up their jobs. Yeah, And so he also corrected 964 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 2: the record that Spider Man aka Junior Bishop had asked 965 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 2: the cops to stop harassing the superheroes, and when he 966 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 2: was confronted and asked for id, Spider Man did nothing wrong. 967 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 2: In fact, he said his idea was in his card, 968 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 2: he would go get it. But then the cops stayed 969 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 2: after him, and that's why he told him like it 970 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 2: started cussing, so as Batman aka jose Aesclona Martinez, but 971 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 2: said the policeman grabbed him by the neck. He was 972 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 2: trying to choke him, and Spidey resisted. So Mickey Mouse 973 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 2: also defended Spider Man, saying how the friendly neighborhood webslinger 974 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 2: was wrongfully choked out by the NYPD. So and Mickey 975 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 2: Mouse added that quote, he. 976 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 3: Had to defend himself after that and hit back. 977 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 2: So now Mickey Mouse, welcome to the resistance. Meanwhile, the 978 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 2: NYPD also decided to bust Captain America in front of 979 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 2: the tourist kids. The man inside the Captain America costume, 980 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 2: Luis Sealinas, twenty years old, was arrested and released the 981 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 2: next day. But Captain America told the Post and I quote, 982 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 2: I didn't do anything. I was standing by Spider Man 983 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 2: who punched a cop, and then four cops came over 984 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 2: and arrested me. I didn't struggle. I'm twenty. I let 985 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 2: them arrest me, so just for kicks. The cops also 986 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 2: arrested Jesse, the cowgirl from the Toy Story franchise, Yeah, 987 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 2: because apparently she was getting lads arrest Now, I promised 988 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 2: that this was a two parter, right, technically a three 989 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 2: part because we already had our previous two, But this 990 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 2: one stays with these same people. After the Spider Man 991 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 2: beat down in front of the kids, the NYPD side, 992 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 2: it was time to add pressure to the situation. So 993 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 2: they're staying on everybody. So one cop went so far 994 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 2: as to describe the Lycraclads superhero and his mascots as 995 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 2: being on the level of Osama bin Laden. Wait, yeah, 996 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,240 Speaker 2: the cop told The New York Post, they're like little 997 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 2: terrorists preying on all the tourists. It's his metaphor, not mine, right, 998 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's not the best metaphor to use it 999 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 2: where terrorists took down the Twin Towers, But hey, NYPD, 1000 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 2: do you language right just reaching for the strong this 1001 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 2: metaphor you can. So the two parter involves the same characters, 1002 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 2: but we also let a comic book have to introduce 1003 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,240 Speaker 2: a new character for our latest installment, The Naked Black Cowboy. 1004 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 3: The Naked he's not a comic book. 1005 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: I know you're not down with the Marvel universe, but 1006 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 2: he's not a character. 1007 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 3: That's my favorite. 1008 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 2: That's his street name. The Naked Black cowboy. His government 1009 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 2: name is Titus Gandy. The naked black cowboys friends with 1010 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 2: Spider Man, and so after his web slinging buddy got busted, 1011 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 2: the naked black cowboy went down to Midtown South Precinct 1012 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 2: to check on him. Now, if I should tell you 1013 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 2: that the naked black cowboy looks like so you can 1014 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 2: better picture this as you might well imagine. He doesn't 1015 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 2: wear clothes. Well, he does wear a giant cowboy hat 1016 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 2: and he wears cowboy boots because otherwise he just be 1017 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 2: the naked black man and the touristy give him tips. 1018 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 2: So the naked black cowboys kind of falls advertising because 1019 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,760 Speaker 2: he also wears underwear. So he walks around naked playing 1020 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 2: a guitar, and so he does have some clothing, but 1021 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 2: other than that solid bear skin. This is of what 1022 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 2: he looks like. 1023 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,439 Speaker 3: Wasn't there a white guy who did this too? 1024 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a common look. Just wear underwearing a cowboy. 1025 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 3: Guitar, and you're just apparently now defined by skin tone. 1026 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 2: Matthew McConaughey calls it a weekend. That's true, just like 1027 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 2: weekend kids. So now that you have that mental image, 1028 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 2: the naked black cowboy walking into Midtown South. 1029 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 3: Precincts, oddly wholesome and happy smiles. 1030 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 2: Naked is not intimidating, like creepy or pervy. 1031 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 3: They're just like those are those are full coverage briefs. 1032 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 2: If you say so, let me see they're tidy whit. 1033 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 2: It looks like Grandpa's underwear. 1034 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,800 Speaker 3: But so I'm saying, it's like they're not high legged 1035 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,280 Speaker 3: and cheek hanging out in banana. 1036 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 2: Hen they're not. 1037 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 3: International mail cattle. 1038 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 2: No, not come from. So once a naked black cowboy 1039 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 2: walks into the cop shop, all right, they uh, he's 1040 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 2: demanding justice. The n white p'd take one look at 1041 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 2: the naked black cowboy. They're like, there's got to be 1042 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 2: something wrong here. I'm betting there's a crime. Soa hey, 1043 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 2: what's your name? Man? You look him up in the computer. 1044 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,720 Speaker 2: Real quick. Turns out, unfortunately they weren't far off. Naked 1045 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 2: black cowboy had open warrants. They popped him for cocaine possession. Wait, 1046 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 2: he'd been stopped previously for a stopping frisk and the 1047 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 2: cops found coca in his wallet. He still had an 1048 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 2: outstanding warrant for that, So then they busted the naked 1049 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 2: and black cowboy, and they said, hey, you can go 1050 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 2: sit in the cooler richer. 1051 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 3: By the warrants, and he walked into a police seat. 1052 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,879 Speaker 2: I don't think he remembered that. I'm just wondering where 1053 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 2: he kept his wallet on him and they had costume. 1054 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 2: Good call, look at you before. I got one fight 1055 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 2: in the bore. One final mascot in Melee. They have 1056 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 2: your favorite for last, Elizabeth. I got two words for you. 1057 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 2: Chewbacca arrested. That's a terrible one. Can you do Chewbacca? 1058 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 3: I can't be You know who can do Chewbacca? My nephew. 1059 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. 1060 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 3: Great. He's been able to do it since he was 1061 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 3: like three. 1062 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 2: Kids are natural his NBC News reported back in two 1063 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 2: thousand and s and takes place across the country. This 1064 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 2: story and the other major spot you'd find costumed heroes. 1065 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 2: That's right, Hollywood Boulevard. Oh boy, A Chewbacca was working 1066 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 2: the crowd of happy faced tourists out there to have 1067 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 2: fun in the tourist trap. Apparently, some tour guy got 1068 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 2: lippy with the Wookie. He accused the Star Wars hero 1069 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 2: of harassing two Japanese tourists that he was leading around 1070 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 2: with a big sign. When the tour guide got in 1071 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 2: Chewbacca's face, Chewbacca growled back, Nobody tells the Wookie what 1072 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 2: to do, and then he headbutted the tour guide. The 1073 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 2: tour guide recalled later how you could see in his 1074 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 2: eyes he was exploding beneath the mask. He yelled at me, 1075 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 2: nobody tells this Wookie what to do, because. 1076 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 3: It's hot and it stinks on your feet. 1077 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 2: And a forty four year old man who's six foot 1078 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 2: five wearing a costume, walking up and down on the sidewalk, 1079 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 2: talking to tourists, running post for photos, but children were 1080 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 2: kicking them. 1081 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,760 Speaker 3: In the shins. Things you do for a dollar. 1082 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So Frederick Evan Young, the forty four year 1083 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 2: old man inside the Chewbacca costume, I liked at the press. 1084 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 2: Gavas his full name, like first, middle, and last. He 1085 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 2: killed Kennedy. But this dude, fred Young. 1086 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 3: He may have some cereals on news. 1087 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 2: He's appropriately size, I said, six foot five, So he's 1088 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 2: looming over this tour guide. And then that's right from 1089 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 2: we brought the hammer down and he hit the tour 1090 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 2: guid pretty much splayed him out. Yeah, standing there watching 1091 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 2: all this with Superman. He watched Hwbacca knocked the tour 1092 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 2: guy down and he did nothing. Just Superman, come on. 1093 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 3: You come on, and caper. 1094 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,760 Speaker 2: Tour guide was splayed out in the bea cups super Batman. 1095 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 2: Oh well you got to steel Superman's man. 1096 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 3: He's got a cape on and you're a steel Man. 1097 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 2: Use that steel Man. I should have been there, Joseph 1098 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,839 Speaker 2: Stall and steel Man. You go over there, captain. So 1099 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 2: the tour guide, as I said, splayed out be cops 1100 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 2: who were walking around because it's a tourist trap, they 1101 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 2: jump into the action. They bust you, Bacca, and they 1102 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 2: charged him with misdemeanor battery and they held him on 1103 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 2: a twenty grand bail. La County. Don't play. Just like 1104 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 2: in Times the tourist, the costume characters had been like 1105 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 2: they've been a problem. So they were like. In two 1106 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 2: thousand and five, mister Incredible got busted. Yep, that's the 1107 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,760 Speaker 2: Muppet Elmo he got busted. That same year and Freddy 1108 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 2: Krueger from Nightmare on Elm Street was arrested near Graumit's 1109 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 2: Chinese Theater on Hollywood Boulevard after Freddy allegedly attempted to 1110 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 2: stab a guy wait, he's he's like a method costume actor, right, Hey, 1111 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 2: it's full in. Yeah, it dusn't hoffins Like he's one 1112 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 2: of the best actors I know working on Hollywood Boulevard. 1113 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 2: So apparently he crosses the line. And there you go. 1114 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 2: Did you have fun? Elizabeth costume? 1115 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 3: Incredible time? Those are so good? 1116 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 2: What's a ridiculous takeaway here? You know? 1117 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,280 Speaker 3: I think that if I'm a New York City cop 1118 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 3: and I have to patrol Times Square, which like, God bless, 1119 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 3: I'm so glad I don't have to do that, but 1120 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 3: I watch enough Law and Order and other cop procedurals, 1121 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 3: wouldn't you want to like buddy up to them, That's 1122 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 3: what you would think, and like like, hey, cut him 1123 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 3: some slack. 1124 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 2: You talked to him real quickly. 1125 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like let them know that you're keeping an 1126 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,280 Speaker 3: eye on them, that no one's going to do anything 1127 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 3: to them. But then if you know, if a purp 1128 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 3: comes through and you can identify them, you can say, 1129 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 3: have you seen this guy? You hold it in the yes, he. 1130 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 2: Went that away always fresh out. 1131 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Or if they see you chasing a suspect, they'll 1132 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 3: put their foot out and trip suspect. 1133 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 2: Good call. 1134 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 3: Not you. 1135 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 2: You're much better NYPD. 1136 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 3: I am such a good fake NYPD. 1137 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think watching all that law and Order is 1138 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 2: really paying off. 1139 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,479 Speaker 3: I put the hours and what does Malcolm Gladwell talk about? 1140 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 3: Ten thousand hours and you're expert a quadruple. 1141 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 2: Well, am I ridiculous takeaway? Thank you for asking. You 1142 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 2: just quoted Malcolm Gladwell. 1143 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 3: But god, I'm. 1144 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 2: Not going to mess with you too hard about that. 1145 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 2: But you know, for a talkback we can wash all 1146 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 2: this away. 1147 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 3: Hey, you don't have your takeaway is just me quoting Gladwell. 1148 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on that one, all right. My too ridiculous takeaway? 1149 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,919 Speaker 2: Thank you for asking, Elizabeth? Is that one. I've got 1150 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 2: to do a mascot costume that I can rotate in 1151 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 2: with the priest costume flights like, imagine trying to board 1152 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 2: a flight dress as Pikachu. Would they let you on? 1153 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,959 Speaker 2: I gotta see? Of course? 1154 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 3: Why? Of course why. 1155 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 2: Would they not? You got a ticket he's got. 1156 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 3: They can kick you off if you're wearing like. 1157 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 2: Too little clothing, But about too much clothing, there's no 1158 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 2: rule too much in one. That's the question. 1159 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 3: Now is okay? You know what? Give me a talk back? 1160 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: Oh, my god, did you that a cat? It's a 1161 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 2: purring cat. 1162 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 4: Hey, Elizabeth and Zarin, this is Stephanie aka Grubberport on 1163 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 4: the various platforms yours. You know, it's ridiculous cats and 1164 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 4: they're purring. So I'm going to send you two voice 1165 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 4: memos because they're purring. Is known to calm your heartbeat, 1166 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 4: lower blood pressure, and stress, and apparently at times it 1167 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 4: supposedly can heal bones because of their frequency. Anyway, that's 1168 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 4: what's ridiculous. This is from a family who loves you, 1169 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 4: guys so much that whenever we tell our kids that 1170 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 4: close their eyes and imagine things, whether it's bedtime or 1171 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,439 Speaker 4: the math or dead is teaching them, they always say, 1172 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 4: what do they say, Arthur, my eyes closed? Thank you 1173 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 4: so much for what you do. 1174 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 5: I love it. 1175 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 3: We got everybody quoting Drew close your eyes as close that. Yeah, 1176 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,879 Speaker 3: cat man, the cat purr is very comfort. You can 1177 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 3: also imagine and make biscuits on you. 1178 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 2: Totally. I had no idea what was at first though, 1179 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 2: I was guessing so many things. 1180 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 3: Motorcycle, that's what I thought. 1181 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 2: Actually, my first thought was I'm like, okay, what here's this. 1182 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:13,399 Speaker 3: Some some like on a motorcycles. No, instead we get 1183 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 3: this amazing thank you and uh hey to the fam 1184 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 3: close your ass. 1185 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 2: Oh as always, folks, you can fight us online a 1186 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,439 Speaker 2: Ridiculous Crime on the social media this the Blue Sky 1187 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,840 Speaker 2: and Instagram yet and also we have a website, Ridiculous 1188 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 2: Crime dot com and we love your talkbacks obviously, so 1189 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,840 Speaker 2: go to the website. iHeart has and they download the 1190 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 2: app and then you can record a talkback and maybe 1191 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,479 Speaker 2: you can hear your voice here. We'd love to hear it. 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