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Speaker 1: Hey, rain Drops. Reality with the King podcast is going

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Speaker 1: on tour. Yes, I am coming to a city near you,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not coming alone. I am bringing a few

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Speaker 1: special guests along with me, starting with Real Housewives of

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Speaker 1: New Jersey star Teresa Judais on April thirteenth at the

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Speaker 1: White Eagle Hall in Jersey City, New Jersey. On Monday

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Speaker 1: April twenty second, I have Tamar Braxton coming to Atlanta

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Speaker 1: at City Winery on April twenty fifth. I got Tamor

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Speaker 1: Judge and Teddy Mellcap from two teas and a pod

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Speaker 1: podcast who will be in the OC at the Irvine

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Speaker 1: Improv And for My Love and Marriage DC fans, I

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Speaker 1: got the ladies Ashley Winter, Iarana and Joy coming to

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Speaker 1: Howard Theater in DC on Sunday May twelfth, Yes Mother's Day.

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Speaker 1: To get your tickets, make sure to go on my

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Speaker 1: Instagram page or Twitter and click the link in my bio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King,

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Speaker 2: the King of Reality TV and one of the most.

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Speaker 1: Sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with

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Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable

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Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so, rain.

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Speaker 4: Drop, this one is very special. No, this is not AI.

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Speaker 4: Nothing is artificially here. Baby, I be Carlos King got

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Speaker 4: Sam out of the doctor's office to make an appearance

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Speaker 4: on her favorite Blockers podcasts. Yeah, listen, I'm gonna run

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Speaker 4: with this book because no, listen, we're gonna talk about that.

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Speaker 4: And you all know my detoic is. Y'all may call

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Speaker 4: her treacherous Toya a baby to me, she is my

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Speaker 4: love giving up for the stars baby, the Dynamic Duo

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Speaker 4: their husbands were here last time, but knock.

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Speaker 2: Out the mind?

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Speaker 3: How don't we know I'll do that?

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Speaker 2: Did you like to interview Get? First of all? Fantastic job,

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Speaker 2: Y'll probably very very absolutely yes.

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna be as sweet a.

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Speaker 5: Way?

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Speaker 3: Questions?

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Speaker 2: Very entertaining, I've got.

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Speaker 6: I got so many calls and they were like they

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Speaker 6: loved it, and I literally, honestly all my way here.

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Speaker 2: I sent it to my mom because she was like,

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Speaker 2: what are for you? She couldn't wait, you know, so

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Speaker 2: she call me backs watching it. Did you like to talk?

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Speaker 7: Was a god some moone approved.

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Speaker 2: I loved it. And for a nano second when you

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Speaker 2: asked Cecil about Timmy, I thought, Carlos.

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Speaker 4: What I was doing it for the audience. I don't

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Speaker 4: care personally. What I do is for the audience. And

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Speaker 4: I want to start with this all jump aside. I

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Speaker 4: am so grateful and thankful that you said yes to

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Speaker 4: coming on my podcast, because number one, you don't do interviews,

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Speaker 4: you just you.

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Speaker 7: You do not do press.

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Speaker 3: If Bravo says them up, I do.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Bravo says them up.

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Speaker 2: But you're not like You're not like.

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Speaker 4: Out there with the publicist outside of Bravo's publicists trying

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Speaker 4: to garner press you. And you've been on the show

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Speaker 4: for ten years and you have always focused, you know,

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Speaker 4: primarily on your your business, on the amazing work you

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Speaker 4: have done in.

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Speaker 7: The community of Georgia and in the medical field.

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Speaker 4: So I really do appreciate you being here. And for me,

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Speaker 4: I want the audience to know this. And I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to be emotional because this means something to me.

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Speaker 4: What it means to me is as black people and unscripted,

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Speaker 4: it's only so a few of us.

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Speaker 7: And yes, I have my own production company.

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Speaker 4: I have my own shows that you talk about, and

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Speaker 4: you know, I choose to make Mariti Medicine my priority

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Speaker 4: because I always felt that it was the best show

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Speaker 4: on the air to me. And to be able for

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Speaker 4: this season to have the opportunity for every Monday to

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Speaker 4: go live with Doctor Heavily, who's my dentist and friend,

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Speaker 4: just to like give our opinions on the show, you know,

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Speaker 4: has really made people aware that know this show.

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Speaker 7: You guys should be watching. And yes, you.

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Speaker 4: And I I of misunderstanding apparently repeat me, man, what

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Speaker 4: was funny about this?

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Speaker 2: Is this what we're showing the world? Is this? Nothing?

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Speaker 7: Is that deep?

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Speaker 3: Correct?

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Speaker 7: We had fun with that. I have been told from.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Heavily to your husband correct saying like it was

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Speaker 4: there and zero yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to be here in person so that I

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Speaker 2: can say to you, so that I can say to

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Speaker 2: your rain drops. It absolutely was not shade to you.

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Speaker 2: What I was trying to say is I'm thinking in

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Speaker 2: my head, we're doing good. In my phone on the

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Speaker 2: text messages, I'm doing good with this person. And then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden there's an interviewer, there's a blogger,

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Speaker 2: there is a tweet that shows me something different than

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Speaker 2: what's going on in reality. Yes, and that really honestly,

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Speaker 2: this has been going on for years. So it wasn't

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Speaker 2: just this year that it happened. And I was trying

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Speaker 2: to make that point. I am sorry if I offended you.

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Speaker 2: I have known about you since you were producing on

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Speaker 2: Housewives with your show Cecil and I watch several of

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Speaker 2: your shows, like We Got your Back as a Black Man,

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Speaker 2: you had the after Dark show. We were watching that

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Speaker 2: every episode.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, And so I don't.

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Speaker 3: Have to be invited to an interview.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to be your favorite cast member on

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Speaker 2: my show for me to still support black excellence.

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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, and I thank you for that, and I

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Speaker 4: of course feel the same way and listen.

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Speaker 2: It also goes to show you.

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Speaker 4: That listen sometimes, and I'll take responsibility for this.

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Speaker 7: You get caught up in.

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Speaker 4: The pray of like you know people, and I'm a funny.

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Speaker 7: Guy, like to have fun.

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Speaker 4: And again, this is to show the world that it

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Speaker 4: ain't that deep.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was never that deep, and I am happy to

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Speaker 4: have cleared the air and.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna have fun.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to some stuff.

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Speaker 4: To Child, But for the most part, I want to

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Speaker 4: say thank you to for doing this again. Marrition Medicine

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Speaker 4: is my favorite show.

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Speaker 7: I've said it for years.

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Speaker 4: I'm not new to this, I'm true to this, and

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Speaker 4: this season has been fucking amazing.

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Speaker 2: Really what makes them amazing?

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Speaker 4: And listen, let's let's let's have a real conversation, real let.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it this.

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Speaker 4: First of all, every season has been fantastic, you guys.

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Speaker 2: In my humble opinion, you.

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Speaker 4: Guys have been the only show to me that has

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Speaker 4: consistently had great seasons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, some seasons be.

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Speaker 4: Like Child, this ain't that greatest, but it's okay with

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Speaker 4: on things the next season, you guys have consistently been great. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So that's no surprise this season, Baby, we gotta.

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Speaker 2: Give it up for Sweet Tea. Okay, you know we're

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Speaker 2: gonna give it up to Sweet Tea. I'm glad you

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Speaker 2: said that because she's like he does, she needs.

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Speaker 4: What's crazy about this with Sweet Tea is this and

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Speaker 4: Sweet Tea.

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Speaker 2: If you're if you're watching, I want you to know this.

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Speaker 4: What Samona and I just did was have a real

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Speaker 4: grown conversation and some ownership. And for me, if you

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Speaker 4: watch the stuff that people don't clip to show you,

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Speaker 4: I said day one on my recaps with Heavenly, that

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Speaker 2: Now, look am I right? I said, Dave.

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Speaker 7: Well, I was like, she's the one. Now we're having fun.

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Speaker 2: So it's fun as shake.

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Speaker 4: Like well clalls on her vision war and all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's me being silly. And if I offended you, Sweet Tea, apologize.

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Speaker 2: I'm never here to offend the girls. I love all

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Speaker 2: the girls. I'm not here to offend the girls. I said,

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Speaker 4: That the show needed, and Pedra, I'm gonna tell you.

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Speaker 4: Aedra obviously being a house a former housewife, brought that

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Speaker 2: And then it was like.

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Speaker 4: Back to swift But because you ladies are the og

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Speaker 4: so you already know how this is made.

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Speaker 2: So it was that doctor.

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Speaker 4: G and the quad thing and and it made everyone

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Speaker 4: sort of like figure out this new world that you

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Speaker 4: guys embraced an amazing season forty six percent increase in

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Speaker 4: the ratings.

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Speaker 2: You guys have done so well in.

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Speaker 4: The ratings, beating other shows and live same day, which

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Speaker 4: is hard to do your tenth season.

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Speaker 2: I did hear though that with this show.

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Speaker 4: Getting the attention that it always deserved, that some of

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Speaker 4: the casts are used to it, and it's becoming a

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Speaker 4: little i'm gonna say scary. It's just different because it's

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Speaker 2: Beat down for this season, the absolute beatdown, and the

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Speaker 2: majority of the feedback that I've gotten from Twitter, from

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Speaker 2: social media, eighty percent of it has been positive. I've

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Speaker 2: had a bad year, but this year, I babe. They

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Speaker 2: After the reunion, I think I got dragged after NAPA.

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Speaker 2: I got I don't know, I got blamed for NAPA.

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Speaker 3: One who initiated. And let's be clear, I.

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Speaker 6: Want everyone to know, this woman will never do what

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Speaker 6: I ask her to do.

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Speaker 2: If you don't agree, no let me.

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Speaker 6: If you don't agree, If she doesn't agree with what

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Speaker 6: I'm asked, correct, she's going and she knows.

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Speaker 3: There hasn't been a season that I have.

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Speaker 2: Ever said, hey, I think she should be off our

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Speaker 2: show to anyone. I have never said that about Mariah.

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Speaker 6: I've never said it about Quad, I've never said it

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Speaker 6: about Heavenly. What I will say is there.

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Speaker 2: Should be some type of equality amongst us.

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Speaker 3: If I feel in a certain.

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Speaker 2: Amount of time, if I show my family, if I

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Speaker 2: show you know, personal real life things, I would like

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Speaker 2: to see the same for our audience.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that was happening for.

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Speaker 6: Years on our show, and so I think NAPA was

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Speaker 6: the build up for everyone. I think everyone was just

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Speaker 6: at a place where they were just like they had

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Speaker 6: their own reasons, but it really was about that individual

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Speaker 6: not showing up up end of the day, she's still show.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's let's get into that.

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Speaker 4: So based on what we've seen, right, because again I

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Speaker 4: create shows, our produced shows, so I know firsthand you

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Speaker 4: can't show everything like you just can't. We have forty

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Speaker 4: two minutes to show, y'all a plethora of scenes, and

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Speaker 7: The mark sometimes, right.

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Speaker 4: What we saw was there wasn't enough evidence, as the

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Speaker 4: audience does the audience.

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Speaker 6: So you mean there wasn't enough evidence for the season

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Speaker 6: or past.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna say that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched every season, Okay, even though it was

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Speaker 4: Buffy was on Audra.

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Speaker 7: We should have come back. I love baby, do you

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Speaker 2: I'm aware that you.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, do what you would do.

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Speaker 2: let's give credit to the editing. Right, she wasn't around

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Speaker 3: We ended on a ship show, and she said we did.

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Speaker 2: Forget editing, Let's keep it a buck. The Napper trip

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Speaker 2: like you're really trying to fake us out to be

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Speaker 3: And on that trip she had had a connection.

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Speaker 2: With zero people. It did make logical.

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Speaker 3: Sense that she was there. She she didn't fly out

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Speaker 2: Nobody wanted to be associated with her in flight.

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Speaker 3: You know how we do the little.

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Speaker 6: Because truly she had it been me or some more,

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Speaker 6: and they would have filmed it. They would have filmed us,

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Speaker 6: in an episode because there Quide may be filmed three,

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Speaker 3: She does it all the time.

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Speaker 2: She signs her contract late, we've already started, but we

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Speaker 2: Maneuvering in a way that's smart and convincing. Right, But

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Speaker 2: you can't blame us for your issues with anybody. If

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Speaker 2: you are the common denominator. You are the problem. I

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Speaker 2: with her. She's not interested. That's okay, pack your bags

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Speaker 4: Watch the episode out because you know, I want to

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Speaker 4: have a real conversation too when.

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Speaker 2: You first watch.

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Speaker 6: When she first watched it, she was like, I'm going

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Speaker 2: Well, that's insane.

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Speaker 4: I'm and you know, I'm very real. I'm very honest.

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Speaker 4: When I watched that episode, it did something to me

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Speaker 2: Let's be real. Had I said Alicia home, you would it.

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Speaker 3: Would have done something to you.

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Speaker 9: Not at that time, She's passive New Challenge that she

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Speaker 9: not Doctor Misha.

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Speaker 2: I'm advocating for you to come back next year. I

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Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna be real obviously. Yes, I'm friends with Quad.

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Speaker 4: I'm also friends with Toya. I'm friends with the Heavily.

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Speaker 4: You and I will be friends. Not gonna be mad,

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Speaker 7: Because I have such a fashion for this show.

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Speaker 4: And the reason why I love this show is because

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Speaker 4: I always said to myself, damn one thing about this cast.

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Speaker 4: They get into it, but they find a way to

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Speaker 4: bring it back home. Yes, and that's what's missing on

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Speaker 4: apply down to some cities, hey, hon Stile to get

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Speaker 4: outside of her being my friend? I was triggered by

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Speaker 6: And wasn't were you triggered because because the public also

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Speaker 4: Exiled No no, no, no, no, no no, again, because the

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Speaker 7: No, you don't. You do not. So that's so I'm

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Speaker 3: I don't have that kind of power.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna tell you what triggered me. It felt

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Speaker 7: You, I'm gonna tell you what's wrong.

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Speaker 2: Let's be real.

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Speaker 7: What went wrong was at least when the camera.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what happened before doing.

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Speaker 2: A lunch break, a battery change, you know, a potty break.

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Speaker 4: All I can say to you on the television is

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Speaker 7: Know way more right. It triggered me because I was like,

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Speaker 4: To be seen as a bunch of bullies, because I've

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Speaker 2: Was So, how would you have handled it? Producer had

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Speaker 4: Yes, I would have done a one on one I

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Speaker 7: Least we know that she's at the place to do.

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Speaker 2: So. Was that what we did while we're with Mariah

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Speaker 2: back in the day, Yeah, remember in New Orleans. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that was how we brought her back. Me and Mariah

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Speaker 6: No one knew when she appeared. They all looked at me, like,

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Speaker 6: really you brought her?

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Speaker 2: I mean off camera there was so much going on.

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Speaker 2: But you're right, it did allow them to say, well,

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Speaker 3: She has a connection here.

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Speaker 6: Maybe we need to figure out our own connections with her.

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Speaker 6: But from a producer's standpoint, you're saying that he should

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Speaker 2: Don't orchestrate stuff. It's truly about organically, about how we feel,

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Speaker 3: And why would I call her?

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Speaker 6: You see what I'm saying of everything that has transpired

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Speaker 3: Back then, right, Why would I have called her?

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Speaker 6: Because everything that has happened with her and my husband

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Speaker 6: and I, my children, everything else had never been settled.

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Speaker 7: There was no I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sorry at that point from her, never, not even.

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Speaker 3: At the reunion last year. There was nothing.

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Speaker 2: There was no ownership. We went to Bravo Khan never

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Speaker 2: and then when the camera goes up, it was random.

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Speaker 2: So you felt like club plays in the camera. She

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Speaker 2: plays in the audience a profession, Yes, And I think

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Speaker 2: that to have a show, you how to have a

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Speaker 6: Do you have, you have, you have one person that

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Speaker 2: The audience, Heavenly, if the audience is saying, are you disagree,

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Speaker 2: It only does not like Toya. Oh, then you have that.

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Speaker 3: Other individual who is the victim.

446
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Speaker 2: You tell me because you said you're an advocate, you

447
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: just scause they.

448
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: Want but you do know they exist medicine.

449
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: I would say that I and I hate to say

450
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 2: it because then, oh my god, Toya's.

451
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: Mad at Quad.

452
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,239
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at her. I just don't like the

453
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: gas lighting that she does. It's like she constantly plays

454
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: this role like you know there they don't, and she

455
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 2: waits for.

456
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: The audience to say things like what they don't.

457
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: Like you, Quad? You should go on Real Housewives of Atlanta.

458
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 6: And it's like, isn't this the same thing that you

459
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 6: deal with Mariah.

460
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: It's the exact same thing.

461
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 7: I didn't ask her that it is.

462
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 3: And she and she can't.

463
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: For the life of me, I don't understand why she

464
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: can't see it.

465
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 3: You literally said.

466
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: This girl was doing drugs. You went on to say

467
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: her family, y'all said.

468
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 6: Whatever about each other, right, dragged each other through the mud.

469
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 2: Never came back around.

470
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 3: And but you want people to come back around.

471
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 4: For you, Well, we did see at the reunion though, and.

472
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: I do come back around. We saw at the reunion,

473
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: she went on an apology tour.

474
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: Well, I did say that.

475
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: I said, Beyonce sold about her tour, my tour reality

476
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 4: with the King sitting in you, My tour is selling out,

477
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 4: and I said, qua, it's on the apology tour now.

478
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: Honestly think she was genuine I thought she was.

479
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 6: I I think I have a good judge of character,

480
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 6: and I think at that time she was genuinely apologetic.

481
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 6: But she also knows, and everyone knows in this industry

482
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 6: that at the reunion.

483
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 2: If you don't do that ars putting the nail in

484
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: your conston, if you don't make a man, yeah, and

485
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: if you don't bring you don't give enough for people

486
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 2: to talk about you. It's the reality for God's sake,

487
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I just feel like,

488
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: was it convenient TV for her to apologize?

489
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 6: I don't know, but I took it genuinely and I said,

490
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 6: I appreciate it and moving forward, but there has been

491
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 6: no changeing an.

492
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 4: So well, we saw the reunion and this is what

493
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 4: I said too heavily when we through our lives, I

494
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 4: said that that's why I love this fucking show, because

495
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 4: when I saw doctor Jackie and Kui have that moment,

496
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 4: everybody's got to launch break and they're crying. I said,

497
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: that's why we love the show. We get to see that.

498
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 4: Then we saw that with you and her. I would

499
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: like to address what happened part one reunion where everybody

500
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 4: have very strong reactions, even me, based on you telling

501
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 4: the story what happened at Quas Home for the child.

502
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: I did say to.

503
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 4: My audience, they like to call you surround sound some.

504
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: I'm about to appreciate.

505
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 7: To me, I'm me too, me too, me too.

506
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 4: So my rain drop said that is around sounds some O,

507
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 4: and I thought that was great.

508
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: So that's one of your pan bates.

509
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 4: Okay, So I said to the audience, I said, if

510
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 4: I'm able to give her the benefit of the doubt,

511
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: one thing I know about these reunions. You guys are

512
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 4: seated far apart, and I said, maybe doctor Simonte and

513
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 4: I heard quad when.

514
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 7: She said none of them. I heard her. You heard her?

515
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: Why did you feel they need to say I had.

516
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: I was making a very specific point that needed to land.

517
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: And the point is, even when she is not speaking

518
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: to me, even when I am not speaking to her,

519
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: I show up. It's whenever I think that that's how

520
00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: I process who's real in my life versus who's just

521
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: here faked it? Because, let me finish, Atlanta's one of

522
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: those cities where people are here when the money is rolling,

523
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: when the times are good, people the room is full.

524
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: It is when shit is down that you got those

525
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: one or.

526
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: Two people right by your side.

527
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: And even though she was saying not to say it, honestly,

528
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: it's been said before. It's been on the news, it's

529
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: been on social media. It is not like I said

530
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: anything that's not already out there. It is not like

531
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: I gossiped about anything I heard surrounding it. But the

532
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: point was, no matter what condition you and I are in,

533
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: I still show up for you in a real way,

534
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: the realist that it's ever gonna get Why didn't I

535
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: Why Now that that reunion on a good foot, I

536
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: have a whole stream of text messages because I texted her.

537
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: The next day.

538
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 10: First of all, she came right after that and hugged me.

539
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: We embraced. I texted her the next day, regardless of

540
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: this show, regardless of this platform, I'm gonna always love you.

541
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, I had a birthday, Hey, what's up?

542
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: For your birthday.

543
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 3: Let's get together from quad.

544
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 7: Okay, I got.

545
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: Those receipts in my cell phone and so again, once

546
00:30:53,600 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: that episode hits and the fans go in, right, but

547
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: I'll stand in my truth.

548
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: And we're not We're not cool right now, Oh Nash.

549
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: No, because again the fans have told her that I'm

550
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: a low down, dirty bitch. But saying that after she

551
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: told me not to, even though she came to hunt

552
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: me right after that.

553
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 4: What was the last communication you guys have via text's birthday?

554
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: It was the birthday. Yes, my birthday is February twenty third,

555
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: but we've been texting the whole time since January twenty

556
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: third's so, I'm sorry.

557
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 7: Yell around sounds some a You're good.

558
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 6: I'm just wondering why, I think because I think the

559
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 6: audience and just speaking from an audience perspective, they probably

560
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 6: felt that you were getting too invasive, right Because she's

561
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 6: saying no, no, no, don't bring it up, don't bring

562
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 6: it up.

563
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: I would have said there was an incident that occurred

564
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: at her house. She said that no, no, no, no no,

565
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: I would not have mentioned I would have gone pregnant

566
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 4: in detail because I would have seen this woman already

567
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 4: triggered by the thought of me saying it, I would

568
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 4: have stopped it. And I'm saying this as.

569
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: Somebody who was told by.

570
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 4: A cast member on Love and Match Huntsville when we

571
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 4: filmed Martell apologizing to his son, I was listen. I

572
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 4: wasn't in the room. I didn't produced it. I wasn't

573
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 4: in the state of Alabama. But because it's my production

574
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 4: company and it's my show that I created, I took

575
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 4: for a responsibility instead. I didn't know my bad. It

576
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: will never happen again, and it hasn't. So I think

577
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 4: that's why I got unfair.

578
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 6: I think it's unfair for people to feel like we

579
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 6: would attack or Simon would attack Quad in a place

580
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 6: where she would have been triggered.

581
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: Well, I don't move in a way that I would

582
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 2: ever want to harm anybody as a result of filming

583
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: the show.

584
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I see you're getting emotional. Doctor Simone wives that, and.

585
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: You know I made the comment, and.

586
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: As inappropriate as it was, it wasn't my intent to

587
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: injure her or anybody in her family. It wasn't the

588
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: intent to read injure was to drive home the point.

589
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: But again, I have nothing.

590
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: But love for Quad.

591
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: If we never speak again, and that's what I told

592
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: her the next the next day, literally, if we never

593
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: speak again, I still have nothing but love for her.

594
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: And again, for people to take this narrative that we

595
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: would try to push any one individual off of the

596
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: show is a bad narrative. Each individual owns her position

597
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: on the show, and she is the only one who

598
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 2: keeps her job or loses her job.

599
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 3: Thank you.

600
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: So if then I'm you know, if the rain drops

601
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 2: say that and see a tear falls because I'm trying

602
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 2: to save the makeup I can stuff. Don't mind me. Yeah,

603
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: I don't film with the intent to injure people. I

604
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: do not get online with the intent to injure people.

605
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: I do get online, and I do get petty sometimes and.

606
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: We tweet it like tweets.

607
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 2: That are negative. I do, but never I'm not moving

608
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: in a way. My life is solessed that I have

609
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: no reason to be walking around with hate or with malice.

610
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: I thank God every day for what he gives me,

611
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: the good and the bad.

612
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 4: If Quad is watching now, is there anything you would

613
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 4: like to say to her?

614
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if I injured you or anybody in your

615
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: family that comment I made. We've all made mistakes on

616
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: this platform and our own mind. That was my mistake.

617
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: Listen, I appreciate the two of you really sharing that

618
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: because this show. Do y'all feel the weight of how

619
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 4: popular this season has become? Does it feel different in

620
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 4: the past season just based on the fandom, the blogs

621
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: picking get up, the attention is getting. Is it something

622
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: to where You're like, I mean, we wanted to be

623
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 4: number one, but damn.

624
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: Is this half of what it costs to be number one?

625
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 3: Ship?

626
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 7: Child?

627
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 2: Like they had so many other great seasons and I'm

628
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: just like, y'all just not catching on that. I'm still

629
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 2: in that. I'm like, difference. You definitely feel the difference.

630
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: I mean, like even seeing that shave shave on real

631
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: shape shave. But you know, all of them whatever, I

632
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: love them all, you know, but it is nice to

633
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: be recognized.

634
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 6: It does come with a lot because me and Eugenie,

635
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 6: we could be in a great place and then he'll

636
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 6: bring up something and I'm like, well, I don't agree,

637
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 6: and I'm like.

638
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to do that in my house.

639
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 6: I don't want to argue about what the perception or

640
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 6: other people's perception is because I'm like, you do know,

641
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 6: we know the reality.

642
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: We can't forget the reality. You see what I'm saying.

643
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: We got we even though that's what they see. We

644
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: got to stay and what we know. You see what

645
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying, that's what they see.

646
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 4: We gotta stay with what we know. That's big. How

647
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: do you feel Let's talk about the husbands. Okay, you

648
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 4: two have great husbands, great husband.

649
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 6: We know that that season for bullying that Greg I

650
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 6: not sold cecil, but I.

651
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: Did not agree. I did not agree. I just it

652
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: was I felt like he got a way. She knew

653
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: exactly what I was talking about. Yes, sir, father reunion

654
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: cheat and you think I would have cheated? Yes? And

655
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: then Greg said, I don't know what you would do.

656
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: What's wrong with that?

657
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 6: Because hes what Greg should have said it. I didn't

658
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 6: know I was capable of cheating. I didn't know Jackie's

659
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 6: husband was capable of So I really honestly don't know

660
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 6: what you're capable of.

661
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: So for you to make me and I said, mate,

662
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: because now you have you.

663
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 6: Being a double team, it's a yes no answer. It's

664
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 6: not a yes and no answer.

665
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: It's a flat out I don't know what you're capable of.

666
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: But if you want me.

667
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 6: To just say no, just because y'all teaming up against me,

668
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 6: I just feel like that wasn't fair.

669
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: It wasn't fair for Cecil. He should have stayed out

670
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: of it. And definitely Jackie's husband.

671
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 6: Quiet please, because if this man says he doesn't know,

672
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 6: it is what it is.

673
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: Do you think doctor David has cheated? Don't have an

674
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: I think everyone a point some time that somebody will

675
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: or will not cheat.

676
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: And everybody that.

677
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: The world would have said, oh, Kathie Lee Gifford said, oh,

678
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: my husband would never cheat. And what happened. Who would have.

679
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: Thought Bill Clint would begin Do you know what I'm saying?

680
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day stuff, I.

681
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: Think we all kind of knew that was gonna go down.

682
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 7: But understand, yeah, the president, so where you.

683
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: Have guess Bill Cosby would be locked up right.

684
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 4: No, this is the thing and Ciso's defense, and this

685
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 4: is where my nostosterone comes into play.

686
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: I do have this boy.

687
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 7: They tell me otherwise, But I got a couple.

688
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 4: Wh I watched They're gonna bead for this one when

689
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 4: I saw that clip.

690
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be real with you, I did agree with you.

691
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 4: What you're saying now. I felt the same way initially,

692
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 4: like I didn't think there was anything wrong with doctor

693
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 4: G's answer. I don't know because if somebody asked me now,

694
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 4: if my African is cheating, I'm gonna say.

695
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

696
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 7: And if he is doing it, keep doing it, because

697
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 7: I don't.

698
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: Know the healthy relationship, right.

699
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: I got the blood work done right.

700
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 4: I felt that see soul because and again I don't

701
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 4: know these men personally on that level. I felt that

702
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: ciecoul doesn't like for the men to be and I

703
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,959
Speaker 4: felt like he was trying to dig the situation because

704
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: he's like, if you don't answer this man right now,

705
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 4: yes or no, this is this is gonna go bads

706
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 4: on a leaner.

707
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 6: But I think could have just said then, hey, he

708
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 6: doesn't know.

709
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: It's just that simple.

710
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: And I know it took everything for Eugene to be quite.

711
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: Because the reality is, why didn't you like to talk?

712
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 2: Well has an opinion.

713
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: He has an opinion.

714
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: You sh't have to be an opinion opinion of me,

715
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: let's be clear.

716
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: But he had an opinion.

717
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 6: And I believe that Ciso and I don't think.

718
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: That they should have.

719
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 6: I don't think that they should have put him in

720
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 6: a place where he had to just agree read it's

721
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 6: a yes or no if that man and testos from

722
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 6: that man said, I don't know, I don't know.

723
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 7: No, I listen. I definitely understand you point.

724
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: Like I said, I thought that way initially too when

725
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: it comes to the husbands, though, your man gets a

726
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 4: lot of black on social.

727
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: Media from the other cast members. Heavenly had from the

728
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: other cast members from Heavenly. Okay, you're right, you're right,

729
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: you're right, So that's my mistake.

730
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 4: From Doctor Heavenly especially and Quad, she's a doctor heaven

731
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 4: Quad have said some things about your husband that I

732
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 4: said to both.

733
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 7: Of them that was wrong.

734
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: I told Quad, I'm calling this man Ugina. Yes, although

735
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: clever very.

736
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if she makes them up, but it's clever.

737
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: You think quas reads are rehearsed, Okay, what shee?

738
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: Senor?

739
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: You think Quad comes in with the with her reads rehearsed.

740
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: You don't think you ain't gonna pops on the top.

741
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: Of her head.

742
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: Let me, you got three thousands, Mone, you got two thousands.

743
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: But she can't come off the top of her head.

744
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: She can't, So she has.

745
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 6: Those asia is great when coming off the top of

746
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 6: her head, and you can tell the difference because she

747
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 6: didnet gave it some thoughts. It was not something that

748
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 6: you kind of heard before, or maybe somebody slipped it

749
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 6: in her.

750
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 3: Ear and she has good people to slip her slider

751
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: mm hmm.

752
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: Okay, your man, I love. Does it affect.

753
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 4: You when people do call him sassy and zesty.

754
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: Ugina?

755
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 4: You know, he articulated such a good point in terms

756
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: of like, not all men have to be this toxic

757
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: masculine man, which I thought for a hitero sexual black

758
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: man to speak to that is really really touched me,

759
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 4: Like we're real talk. But as his wife, does that

760
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 4: affect you or do you see it affects him at

761
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 4: home and you have to like deal with it.

762
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: I think one of Eugene's biggest issues back in the

763
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: day used to be and maybe even still today. He said,

764
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: I hate when people put feminine characteristics on a man

765
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: just because he does things that some people have said

766
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: are feminine things like cooking.

767
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 6: Or you know, hanging out shopping with your wife. He

768
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 6: was like, he really and truly feels like he's a

769
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 6: he No not, he really and truly, Eugene.

770
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 2: Is a man.

771
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 6: Right when I met Eugene, I knew I was dealing

772
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 6: with a man.

773
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: I'm a sassy man, not no know nothing. Everything about

774
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: him was manly. I remember when he first pushed me

775
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: on the other side of the street, was like, I

776
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: have to walk on this side of the street. You

777
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: see what I'm saying. He doesn't bother you. It can't

778
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: bother you because it bothers me, he asked me. It

779
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: doesn't about it him, he said.

780
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 6: When the public said, when my castmate says it, of

781
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 6: course it bothers me.

782
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: Because I know my castmates demo.

783
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 6: They feel like if they say something once, twice, maybe

784
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 6: three times, it's.

785
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: Gonna stick and it's going to become this scene.

786
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 6: That goes viral. And so I'm a protector, right. I'm

787
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 6: a mama Beer.

788
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: Of my sons.

789
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm a mama Beer of.

790
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: My husband, and he's a daddy bear for me.

791
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 7: You see what I'm saying.

792
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: Even when he doesn't agree, we're gonna have our conversation

793
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: on our off camera whether he agrees or not. But

794
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: he's still gonna be very respectful. He's still going to

795
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: be a man.

796
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: He's gonna be and he's right. It doesn't have to

797
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: be forty nine.

798
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 6: If he won, it doesn't have to be because he

799
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 6: knows what I married is someone if something happens to me,

800
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 6: she can carry this household and vice versa.

801
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: And so we we we can, I can.

802
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 6: Make decisions for our family. And it doesn't it doesn't

803
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 6: emasculate him.

804
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

805
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 6: I I what I don't like is I'm from Detroit.

806
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 6: And I'm not blaming it all Detroit, but Detroit women.

807
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 6: We are very strong women. Yes, we have a strong back,

808
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 6: We're pretty, we're pretty aggressive sometimes in our approach.

809
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: We have a woman on this show is aggressive, but

810
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: it's a different way, but in a different way.

811
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 3: But it's in a different way.

812
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: Every woman in a Jeni way. When it comes to

813
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 2: the South, every woman, when it comes to the child,

814
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: it's got out on whatever we need. She knows I can't.

815
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 3: I'll talk her.

816
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: But the reality is there is a Southern dynamic.

817
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 6: Right even my following base, I have the most followers

818
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 6: from Philly, New York first, and Chicago.

819
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: What does that say?

820
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 6: Those are all places where and.

821
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: Are the least in Atlanta?

822
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: Okay? And the reality is the women are different in

823
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: those places we speak with authority, we are very We

824
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: can come across as hard, you know what I'm saying.

825
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 6: But I've always told people Eugenie has softened me, really

826
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 6: and truly. I was way.

827
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: Worse, okay, And I love that about him, that he's

828
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: able to soften me, able to put me in a

829
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 2: place of vulnerability, because we're not that type of women

830
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: where we want to be vulnerable. We haven't had the

831
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: luxury of being vulnerable.

832
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 6: Most of our families in Detroit are not married. These families,

833
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 6: there's broken homes everywhere. All of our parents were working

834
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 6: in the the Big Three, as we say to before,

835
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 6: the christis of the jail, which means they never really

836
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 6: went to college.

837
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: Right.

838
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 6: So we're dealing with a fight, and it's always been

839
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 6: a fight. And so now I meet this man who

840
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 6: knows how to assaulten me, who is loving toward me.

841
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: And they want to say he's.

842
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 6: A yugina or he's sassy. It doesn't matter to me

843
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:32,479
Speaker 6: what they say.

844
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: I just know what I feel and how he treats

845
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: me and how he treats our household, and that's it.

846
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: How does it feel to be the breadwinner? I've been

847
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 2: the Red Winner for a long time.

848
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 7: What's a long time.

849
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: I can't speak to.

850
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: Three years married. We've been married for married, we've been

851
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: married for years. This year year, sixteen years, this year,

852
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: maybe three or four years.

853
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 6: I've been a great winner and I've taken it on

854
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 6: the chain with people saying that, you know, I'm this

855
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 6: girl who was just gonna put him in the whole.

856
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: He just he ain't gonna add no money when she's what.

857
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 6: She's done with him that I would go God for

858
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 6: being I'm sorry, I'm not gonna digging where that's tea,

859
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 6: you know.

860
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 2: But that's what they're saying.

861
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 6: That's not what I say, right, But the reality is

862
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 6: that's what they've always thoughts.

863
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: But I think that's that's the character. And I'm gonna

864
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: use the word character.

865
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: That I created, and I'm I'm gonna own that.

866
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: When I look back at past season season one, two three,

867
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: I was talking about money all the time. I was

868
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: talking about shopping. I'm shopping for a house that we

869
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: didn't even have yet. I was doing the craziest things

870
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: because I'm just a fund loving hot This be jovial,

871
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: and then when you look back, you're like, you really

872
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: didn't talk about saving, you didn't talk about the necessities

873
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: around the things you were doing.

874
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 3: You just shopping, You were just spending.

875
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 6: You know, all my things was Toya coming in, was

876
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 6: shopped at Das with the kids.

877
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: And I was okay with.

878
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 6: That back then, but now seasoned that ten years later,

879
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 6: I'm not okay with the perception.

880
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: And so I do feel like I'm at a place

881
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: where I have.

882
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: To recreate and show the world.

883
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 6: Who I have always been. But I just never showed

884
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 6: them that side of me.

885
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: And I think you owe that to the audience.

886
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 8: We go.

887
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: A lot of women are housewives, and one thing.

888
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 4: That isn't normal is when a woman is a housewife

889
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden she becomes the breadwinner and

890
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 4: the man still stays that's an ego trip to a man,

891
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 4: because a man likes the idea of providing.

892
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 7: If that's how it was set.

893
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: Up, as I would, weren't you there. We had that

894
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: conversation we were talking about.

895
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 6: It was hard for him because he started feeling like, well,

896
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 6: what can I give her?

897
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: She's already getting it for herself, you know.

898
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 6: But then it was a turning point, maybe two years ago,

899
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 6: two Christmases.

900
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: Ago, and he got the cutest things made. There were

901
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: these cartoon characters of us, our whole family, of who

902
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: we are a af produced. It was adorable.

903
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 6: And then he bought me a little week of tennis, you.

904
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 2: Know, to go to improve my game.

905
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh.

906
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 6: He looked in and he went from within, I don't

907
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 6: need to snail that, I don't need anything else of

908
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 6: a name ran right now okay, and he realized I

909
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 6: just I just got a little deeper, and I think

910
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 6: we're at a good place.

911
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: We're not.

912
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 6: I don't count his money. All I asked of Eugenias,

913
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 6: have you attack some money? That's the it, because I

914
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 6: don't want to do that.

915
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 4: I don't do you pay the rent, the mortgage, the rent.

916
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: No, I think the and I think all for a minute,

917
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: I was like, he takes care of that, takes care

918
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: of that.

919
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 6: He takes care of you, take care of my cardinal.

920
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 6: But then I was like, well, you know, I'll take

921
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 6: care of it.

922
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: I paid for my cardinals. I pay, yeah, I think

923
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: for the things that I want to say.

924
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 2: Then we don't do. Utilities are not a big deal.

925
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 6: I pay for my children's tuition, which is about sixty grand.

926
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: I pay for all of their clothing, anything that they need.

927
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 2: I supply.

928
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 6: I play for every vacation. And I don't know if

929
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 6: he was following, but they we don't. We don't vacation.

930
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: I don't have the whole family, the parents, to London

931
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: and to Amsterdam and they.

932
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 6: Only fly first class. I do not put my kids

933
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 6: somewhere else.

934
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: No, I do you say, wondering if she's going to

935
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: World right, I take care. I take care of my

936
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: husband the way he would take care of me. Yeah.

937
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I buy Eugene for Christmas. I I'll do it

938
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 6: myself for Eugene. He even took stuff back and he

939
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 6: was like, I don't need this.

940
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 2: I was like, you want to do this, and I

941
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: just I don't need all this.

942
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: And I even took back something he bought me. I

943
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 3: was like, I don't need this.

944
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 4: So this perception that and I want to get your

945
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 4: thoughts on this.

946
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: To doctor Monow, there's this perception that.

947
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 4: You are looking for an exit plan, that you're going

948
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 4: to lead Doctor Eugene. You really want a hood boy

949
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: right to be your man. The only reason why you're

950
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 4: with Doctor Eugene is to stay.

951
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 7: On the show.

952
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: There's people who say.

953
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 4: You're really mad at Quad because Quad divorced Doctor Gen

954
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 4: and she's still on the show and you wish you.

955
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 2: Have her life.

956
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 4: That's good, and they're accusing your chie as you know,

957
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 4: I think.

958
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 6: I think that in every marriage there's a trying time.

959
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 6: And there was a time maybe two three years ago

960
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 6: being Eugene just were not communicating well, and it was

961
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 6: around the people calling him ugina, you know. And it

962
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 6: started before that though. It started with me feeling like

963
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 6: he was attacking me with my children on camera and

964
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 6: he was like, what do you mean? And maybe I

965
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 6: wasn't expressing myself in the right way, but I was

966
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 6: feeling like I was being attacked by in so many areas.

967
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: You know. It was like production had always showing me

968
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: with alcohol, and I was just like, this is not fair.

969
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 6: And then I got to come home and I got

970
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 6: to deal with them and they're making jokes about you know,

971
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 6: how it talk and they never made jus a while

972
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 6: I talk before.

973
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 3: And it was like I was getting hit in so.

974
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,959
Speaker 2: Many directions that it was starting to affect me.

975
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 6: As a person, my own personal self esteem, and I

976
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 6: was like, that's.

977
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: Kind like Toya.

978
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 6: Toya has high sep stin Toya is she knows who

979
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 6: she is. I knew who I am in God, I

980
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 6: don't know he created and I'm okay with that girl.

981
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 6: And when he just it was like I was speaking

982
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 6: another language, and it was because he was obviously speaking

983
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 6: another language to me, and our communication was dead, right dead,

984
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 6: and I had to go back home. I went back

985
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 6: to Michigan, and I spent some time with some very

986
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 6: old friends of mine that I had been friends with,

987
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 6: whether it be my ex who was a really nice

988
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 6: person that Eugene knew about met introduced all of that.

989
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 2: That was the truth I did.

990
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 6: I I didn't spend time, but we all sat down, me,

991
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 6: you know, and my girls. Well, I was just going

992
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 6: quite a bit, and then all of a sudden, I

993
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 6: was like, you know what, I'm gonna start.

994
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: To be in a ceilogy, So marijuana state. I was,

995
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 2: I want to do it, you know, legally, And then it.

996
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 6: Became it was one of the moments where I just

997
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 6: I wasn't even talking to Eugene anymore.

998
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: I was talking to my friends and I was talking

999
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: to my girlfriends, and it was because they were telling

1000
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 2: me things like, girl, we know who you are. Why

1001
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 2: all of a sudden. Are you crying everything? I don't think

1002
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: about this show? Why are you so upset?

1003
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 3: Why is the effect in your marriage? You know who

1004
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 3: you are. I know who you are.

1005
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 6: You're a good friend, and to hear it from people

1006
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 6: that had known you for twenty.

1007
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: Years it felt better for me, and so I kind

1008
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: of just shut down. And so we did have the

1009
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: conversation of maybe this marriage isn't working. We did sit

1010
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: down with the kids and we're like, it's it's we

1011
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: may not go any further, but it's okay, you and

1012
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: I kid, nothing's going to change in our family dynamic

1013
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: because we didn't want to be unhealthy in front of

1014
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: our kids. Because I was never raised in an environment

1015
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: where I saw my parents argue.

1016
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 7: Now one time and.

1017
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: I know my dad is terrible and you know, but

1018
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: I never saw them argue. And so I was like,

1019
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: when it gets to that place and our kids are

1020
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: at that age where they're taking it all in, something

1021
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: has got to change. And I was like, and I

1022
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: don't want to argue with you.

1023
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 6: Eugene is the king of slamming doors, I mean.

1024
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 2: And one why I think he locked me outside. I'm

1025
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: going to drink living. I was living I'm going to

1026
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: drink some more. Okay, so I drink something when you should. Yes,

1027
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 2: you know, I'm telling you a thing. He calls back,

1028
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: not that long because I said, I'm gonna call the kids.

1029
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: Have some don't let money in and you don't want that.

1030
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 2: So some things we have to share with clothes in harlows.

1031
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 10: I know he is not my cards, I know, but.

1032
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 4: I don't fight.

1033
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: Women across the ball. I should.

1034
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 10: Because the reality is marriage is great, right, okay, but him,

1035
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 10: I hit her job. Heavinly's gotta hear the inn and

1036
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 10: manipulate the conversation.

1037
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 3: It's gonna be.

1038
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 2: But I think the reality we can go down a't

1039
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: on YouTube anymore. You know.

1040
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 6: I just feel like in every marriage, whether people want

1041
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 6: to fake it or not, you know what I'm.

1042
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: Saying, we don't.

1043
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 6: We we were having our own issues and we came

1044
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 6: to that place, and I pride ourselves.

1045
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: I pribed in Eugene on coming back. You see what

1046
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying. We worked hard to come back out of it.

1047
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: We we got to a place where we.

1048
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 6: Were like, hey, going forward, what's some things you need

1049
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 6: to change? He went, He found him a psychiat No

1050
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 6: psychiatis a psychologist and this guy, he was amazing black

1051
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 6: guy married, I mean amazing. With Eugene, I went to

1052
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 6: my to my pastor's wife. We talked on a regular

1053
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 6: and we started working on ourselves from with.

1054
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 3: Them, and then we were able to start.

1055
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 6: Our communication back up. We were happier. Our kids know this,

1056
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 6: and they were like, one day, Avery.

1057
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 3: Said, why y'all kissing so much?

1058
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: Why else?

1059
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: Was I happy?

1060
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: That It hurt me to hear that, because I didn't

1061
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: want them to even be thinking that that's the way

1062
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: Mary's life should be. You see what I'm saying, right.

1063
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 6: So, if we had to go down in the gutter,

1064
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 6: if we had to go to a place where we

1065
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 6: just was like, look, this is not healthy for our

1066
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 6: relationship to continue on and then come back up out

1067
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 6: of it that God willing, We're good. But I don't

1068
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 6: want Quad's life a God forbid. I don't ever want

1069
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 6: to have to say I was divorced and.

1070
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 3: Figure it out.

1071
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 6: You know, I wasn't forgiving, you know, especially when you

1072
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 6: have children.

1073
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 2: You know, I've always wanted to.

1074
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 6: Be a supportive wife that showed my sons they should

1075
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 6: find in a mob.

1076
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: You know. I cook for them four times a week.

1077
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 6: You know, I have quality time with them, quality conversations

1078
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 6: with them, and we and we travel together as a

1079
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 6: family and we actually have fun.

1080
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: So your great mom.

1081
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 7: One thing I would say about that you are a

1082
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 7: great mom.

1083
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 6: I love I love it, and I like being a

1084
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 6: good wife to Eugenie, you know.

1085
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: But when it got some place where I wasn't a

1086
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: good wife.

1087
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 6: To him and he felt that way he wasn't a

1088
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 6: husband of me, we had to have the real conversation.

1089
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 7: No, that's real.

1090
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 4: And obviously you know a lot about this, because.

1091
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if I ever said this publicly.

1092
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 4: I did not say this to your husband when I

1093
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 4: spoke with him at Doc Jean. So my show Loving

1094
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 4: mash Huntsville, I created that around the time season.

1095
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 7: Five American Medicine was airing.

1096
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 4: It was my favorite season because it was really about

1097
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 4: the ups and downs with couples and I've never seen

1098
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 4: that on TV. So mind you, I'm a guy who

1099
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 4: did all of Atlanta Housewives right, and I'm the one

1100
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 4: who said we need Peter and Apollo and we need

1101
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 4: time and I want the perspective of the MiGs. I

1102
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 4: just felt like irreflective black households and conversation. You know,

1103
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 4: black folks, if you're married, we all.

1104
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: Friends and we're all gonna talk. So long story short,

1105
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: no one knows this. I'll say it for the first

1106
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: time now.

1107
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 4: I was shooting a pilot a Love and Mash hunts

1108
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,479
Speaker 4: Bill around the time of the reunion of season five,

1109
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 4: and I was touched by you and Cecil. And the

1110
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 4: best thing about that reunion was the fact that everybody rallied.

1111
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: To support the two of you.

1112
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 7: And I said, damn this.

1113
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 4: If I'm able to showcase that on Love and Match

1114
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 4: Huntsville as I'm shooting this pilot, then baby, I have

1115
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 4: a home run because I get inspired by everything I'm

1116
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 4: looking at. And I was inspired by the level of

1117
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 4: honesty that you and Cecil we're dealing with at the time.

1118
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 4: When I spoke to see So, I remember, I think, listen,

1119
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 4: I don't know him that well yet I think he's

1120
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 4: the sweetest man in the world. He's so nice and

1121
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 4: kind and and just he's such a good man. And

1122
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 4: what I thought was so fascinating that season and at

1123
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 4: the reunion was he really appeared confused and lost. Right,

1124
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 4: it was right, So I'm not like that.

1125
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: So I'm not making some I was.

1126
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 7: Right, but he looked that way right.

1127
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: Well, we were we.

1128
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 6: Were confused because I wasn't expecting her to say what

1129
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 6: she said on camera, you know, And and I was,

1130
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 6: I just was.

1131
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: I was in all. I knew we were. They were

1132
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: having problems. We all were.

1133
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 6: We were all confiding and each other, and and you

1134
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 6: and peggybacking off each other. But I didn't know that

1135
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 6: was coming. And so she made it so cut. But

1136
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 6: you made it so cut and dry.

1137
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: At the reunion, you were like, it's over. And then

1138
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: when we get back home, was it really so?

1139
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 4: When he I'm sure you watched it, and and it's

1140
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 4: interesting because I love the fact that he's like, look,

1141
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 4: I was wrong and I could have done better. And

1142
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 4: I think the beauty of the show is unless you

1143
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 4: look at things and say, oh.

1144
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it was. When you watched the interview,

1145
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 2: he and.

1146
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 4: I did, and he said he was rushing to fix

1147
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 4: her tires. And my sisters were in the group chat

1148
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 4: and they said, I would divorce his ass too.

1149
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 7: If if my husband was eager.

1150
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 4: To fix I don't care she's yo yo, platonic friend

1151
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 4: or not. It was the urgency for me was that

1152
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 4: the moment for you doos the moment you felt like

1153
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 4: something has.

1154
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 7: To change here.

1155
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: No, what that thing is. Cecil is like that with

1156
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: all his friends. She just happened to be the first

1157
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 2: female friend that he made into this super important person.

1158
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: But I think the thing is as a doctor and

1159
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 2: owning my own business as a black woman, we have

1160
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: it so tough already. Sure, I'm strong, I'm loud, I'm aggressive,

1161
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: but the fact is, when you have something break down

1162
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 2: or my car was stuck on ice, you need a

1163
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: man who rescues you. And Cecil has stopped being the

1164
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 2: rescuer for me. So when I and I would be

1165
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: cool if you say, Okay, he's just in a place

1166
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: in his life where he can't rescue anymore. But to

1167
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: see him rescue another woman was like, okay, so he

1168
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: still has it in him.

1169
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 3: It's just not with me, right, and tell.

1170
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 2: Me what's actually problem number three? Not problem number one?

1171
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 2: Was problem number three. But the you know, when you're

1172
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 2: filming reality TV, you have to make things as superficial

1173
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: as you possibly can. And like my therapist said, well,

1174
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 2: my therapist said, you don't want to put anything out

1175
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: in the TV universe. Yeah, Because he was like it's

1176
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: permanent once you put it out there. And even coming

1177
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: to Reunion that year, I talked to my therapist the

1178
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: day before while I was in my dressing room at Reunion,

1179
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: because you know, I kept saying, he won't say, so,

1180
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: I'm stupid and I'm gonna stop.

1181
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 3: My therapist was like, it, no matter.

1182
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: What he say, your composure because once you put it

1183
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 2: out there, your kids are gonna see it, your families

1184
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: are gonna see it, and it's permanent. But we're just

1185
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: He and I are both so stubborn, and he is

1186
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 2: the coolest guide I hang with to kick it with.

1187
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 2: But as a wife, I need something a little bit

1188
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: different and nurturing and protective, and.

1189
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 3: I need baby.

1190
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 2: It's unfortunate and people don't see that from me. I'm

1191
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: needy and I need to be coddled toy. He gets it. Yeah,

1192
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: but people don't see that side of me. But Jackie

1193
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 2: gets it. People get it. And my marriage had lost that,

1194
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: and you know, I was the biggest bitch ever a

1195
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: couple of years leading into that, and that combo is

1196
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 2: the combo for a divorce. I'm thankful for what Reunion

1197
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: gave us. We would have just moved on we would

1198
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 2: still be friends and still you know, get together and

1199
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: have a drink. We wouldn't be married, so you will.

1200
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 4: That reunion really brought this marriage back to a place

1201
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 4: to where leaving the reunion you can start making the

1202
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 4: necessary steps to rebuild.

1203
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: When you it was the first time during the process

1204
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: we have been separated that people were so vocal, and

1205
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: I think people were working on us individually but collectively

1206
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 2: in the same room. People were so vocal about we

1207
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: were being stubborn. We let ego and pride get in

1208
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 2: a way, and you have to be honest. I'm a

1209
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 2: very I'm the captain of Petty and so. But when

1210
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: you call me out, when you call me out, I

1211
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 2: will sit and think and do some self reflection. I

1212
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: have no problem doing self reflection because I love me.

1213
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 2: I love everything about me. But you know, I know

1214
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: I have things I need to work on. I know

1215
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 2: I need things that should be changed.

1216
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 7: Going to doctor Jackie.

1217
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 4: And Helton Head, did you not know, doctor Samol, I

1218
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 4: didn't remember.

1219
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 2: Jackie and I have been friends for more than twenty

1220
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 2: years and that year that that.

1221
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 5: Picture surfaced or those pictures surfaced, like I can tell

1222
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 5: you exactly where I was when somebody came to my

1223
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 5: office would a cell phone showing me the pictures on

1224
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 5: social media.

1225
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: I can tell you my steps. I left my office,

1226
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: went to her office, and normally I would park at

1227
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 2: the front door, walk through the reception area, parked in

1228
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: the back, call like hey, can y'all let me in,

1229
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: and then want to go sit in her office. But

1230
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 2: Hilton Head was not the center or the focus of

1231
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: that situation. Here is a woman who has been so

1232
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 2: graceful throughout this reality TV thing for the most part,

1233
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: and to see this be just out there and embarrassing.

1234
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 2: She got attacked online with people saying you work too much,

1235
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: that's why he cheated on you. Like, don't give nobody

1236
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 2: an excuse for doing wrong when you're wrong, sitting it,

1237
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 2: acknowledge the fact that you're wrong, but it's not somebody

1238
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 2: else's fault. It was a lot, and you know, just

1239
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: praying for her and hoping for her to keep her

1240
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 2: marriage and get it back on track. And I told

1241
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: her one time, like, there's all this noise and people

1242
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 2: people are quick to be Oh, I wouldn't have put

1243
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 2: up with that. People putting up with shit every day

1244
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 2: every day? Yeah, you putting up with something in your marriage.

1245
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 2: It's impossible not to be putting up with something. And

1246
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: I told her block, cancel the noise, don't even listen

1247
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 2: to that. But back to the original question, I did

1248
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 2: not remember it was hilton Head. I didn't let me

1249
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: say this. The cheating that went with that person, it

1250
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 2: was in it. It started in Atlanta and went to

1251
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: hilton Head. And I felt like there was too much

1252
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 2: focus and drama about hilting Head and there was a

1253
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 2: different way technically that we should have played it versus

1254
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,759
Speaker 2: highlighting the fact that but we rolled with their punches.

1255
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: We rolled with Jackie and Curtis's punches. We literally had

1256
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 2: no intention on bringing up the cheating allegations and this

1257
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: was where it all happened, and.

1258
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 6: We weren't going to do any drive by to the barrow.

1259
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 6: None of that was gonna happen. Yeah, we genuinely when

1260
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 6: we called her.

1261
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 2: I was like, where are you?

1262
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 3: We're trying to get on this bus and go, And.

1263
01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 2: When we heard her start crying, we were like did

1264
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 2: she cry? Because it really really We're like, why are you?

1265
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,759
Speaker 2: Should we we immediately all of us was like should

1266
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 2: we stop everything?

1267
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 3: Like because that wasn't our intention, you know. And even

1268
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 3: I even told her, I said, but you.

1269
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 6: Just say that me and Eugene would have been or

1270
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 6: that I would have been the one to bring up

1271
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 6: any negativity around your marriage, just because I didn't agree

1272
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 6: or verbatim with everything that she was saying.

1273
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 2: Back then, I was like, where did that come from?

1274
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: I've never I'll heavenly say is we could have just

1275
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: gone somewhere else. You on a production come from, you

1276
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 2: have shows. Sh It ain't that easy once you make

1277
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 2: a decision.

1278
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 4: So that's why I said to her, I said, and

1279
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 4: Doctor Someone.

1280
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 3: Play with you. She can just be moved like.

1281
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 4: No, I said to her line I said, in Doctor

1282
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 4: Someone's defense, as production, we it takes weeks to months

1283
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 4: to clear a trip, and we are the ones who

1284
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 4: make it happen.

1285
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 7: And if something happens last minute, we can't just.

1286
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 4: Say all this money we put off front can be

1287
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 4: melan void.

1288
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: So I did.

1289
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 3: But here's a fact. Here's a fact.

1290
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 2: They are still married, which means they overcame Hilton Head.

1291
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 2: There's a fact, right, And so to have this little

1292
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: dot on the entire us of a that you're just

1293
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 2: gonna avoid is crazy and unrealistic.

1294
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 5: If you've overcome it like it's Chris, never go Toton

1295
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 5: and so.

1296
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 2: And so we get an opportunity to show the viewers

1297
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 2: how you overcome things.

1298
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 4: Yes, which is what I was happy they showed up. Well,

1299
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 4: that's what this shows about. That's why I was happy

1300
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 4: they showed up. Dude, Are you jealous of Doctor Heavenly

1301
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:03,799
Speaker 4: and Jackie's friendship?

1302
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: Absolutely not?

1303
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 4: Is she jealous of your friendship with jack Is Doctor

1304
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 4: Heavenly jealous of Simone?

1305
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 2: Because I think Heavenly and Jackie are close?

1306
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 7: Are they closer than y'all too?

1307
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't, I can't speak to you.

1308
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 3: Mean, are are because.

1309
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,799
Speaker 7: You and Jackie are on from are very close?

1310
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 2: Yes, Now Heavenly is closer to Jackie.

1311
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 3: Than I am.

1312
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 2: Now Heavenly is closer to Jackie than I am. But

1313
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with Heavenly. And let me

1314
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 2: say this. In December, we truly truly have our friendship

1315
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: back where it's supposed to be. But I think Heavenly

1316
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: feels like she's in competition. You can be in competition

1317
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 2: with as much shit as me and jacque w and Walters.

1318
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 2: What do you mean like it doesn't have anything to

1319
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 2: do heaven a distance. Yeah, I think that this platform,

1320
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: the fact that we made it with the friendship intact

1321
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 2: for as long as we did on this platform.

1322
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 3: I think it's difficult. And think about.

1323
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 2: How often the fans will have you in your feelings

1324
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 2: about something I said about something I did. I think

1325
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: it's hard.

1326
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 6: So do you think that you I this is my

1327
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 6: genuine opinion. I think that Heavenly puts in the work

1328
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 6: to build that relationship.

1329
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:36,759
Speaker 2: I think right.

1330
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 3: Now, tell me about ass kisser.

1331
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: I don't kiss ass. We're equal. You got on no

1332
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: pedalst We're equal. I don't kiss no ass. And I

1333
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: think Heavenly as a chaser and an ass kisser is

1334
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 2: my honest opinion.

1335
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 3: Heavenly gives her all the.

1336
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 2: Time used to down at the YouTube, and I just

1337
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 2: give him my honest opinion.

1338
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 3: So she puts him the time.

1339
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,839
Speaker 2: And I think that Jackie as.

1340
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 6: A mom with her, have not put in as much time,

1341
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 6: which has allowed me.

1342
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 4: Did you say to Quad, I can't go against Toya

1343
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 4: what I said.

1344
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: Quad and I were at CNS Seafood and we were

1345
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 2: having dinner, and what I told her is this, Toya

1346
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 2: is not dictating any of my friendships. However, I'm not

1347
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 2: gonna do anything that jeopardizes my friendship with Toya, and

1348
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: so me hanging out with Quad being friends with Quad.

1349
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 2: She knows when I reached out to her after the incident.

1350
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 3: I told Toya, I'm reaching out to her. It's doesn't care.

1351
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: About my friendships with any of these ladies because it's

1352
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 2: not impacting my friendship with her. And one of the

1353
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 2: things that happened in our friendship early on is she

1354
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 2: was like, you sit there, You're not saying any thing.

1355
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: You don't have my back. And I made a decision

1356
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 2: because Jackie's feeling is, well, you're always defending Toya. I

1357
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: made a decision that anytime it's two against one and

1358
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: my friend is involved, you're gonna hear my mouth. So

1359
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: if Quad and Toya are having a disagreement, as long

1360
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: as Heavenly keeps quiet, I'm quiet. Heavenly jumps in and

1361
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 2: I jump in because they were tag teaming, and it's

1362
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 2: okay the tag team. I'm playing double dutch. I'm jumping in.

1363
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: But I like the fact that, even like earlier, I

1364
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 2: want to clarify something. I love the fact that she

1365
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 2: was like, well, don't drink some wine. Glass wine.

1366
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have some water because sometimes I do give

1367
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 6: too much and and I would like to give bullet points,

1368
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 6: you know. But I do feel like at the end

1369
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 6: of the day, I know where some of these things

1370
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 6: have came from. You know, the fact that I was

1371
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 6: willing to do this business with people that I have

1372
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 6: dated in the past, and that being a male that

1373
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 6: they ran with that.

1374
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, she people have dated in the past.

1375
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: I've dated people as if you had dated some females too.

1376
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 2: But we're talking about a male right, So.

1377
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,839
Speaker 4: About part of the LGBT coming, I'm.

1378
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: Like, I would like the world.

1379
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 3: I want to set the record ration there has there's been.

1380
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 6: I don't have any friendships that I've ended on a

1381
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:40,480
Speaker 6: tragic note unless you have done something to me personally.

1382
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:45,719
Speaker 2: Is there outside of that? My excess, my my male friends,

1383
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 2: female friends, we all love each other from twenty five

1384
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 2: thirty years plus all of my friends, and so if

1385
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 2: they have a business endeavor going on, I'm like, what's up,

1386
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 2: what's going on? I'm talking to my husband about it,

1387
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: and I think, but I think that's the difference and

1388
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,480
Speaker 2: me and you, Jane's relationship and so many other relationships.

1389
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 6: I'm saying, hey, honey, what do you think about this?

1390
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 6: And he's like, well, I don't really like you know

1391
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 6: your ex around.

1392
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, why have I ever.

1393
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: Gave you a reason? He's like, oh, I was like,

1394
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 2: so can we.

1395
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 3: At least see if it's gonna make us any money?

1396
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 2: You know, what do you think? You know?

1397
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 6: I just wanted to I think for me at that time,

1398
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 6: I just wanted to be out in the box. I

1399
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 6: felt like I had been boxed in on the show

1400
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 6: as this person who who just was spending his money

1401
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 6: and we knew it to be different, and I was like,

1402
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 6: I gotta figure out was talking to some other business

1403
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 6: on something that's genuine And.

1404
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 2: He's like, well I don't. I don't even know about

1405
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 2: that one.

1406
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 6: So but you know, of course that ended because it

1407
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 6: wasn't a great business endeavor, and then I moved on.

1408
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 6: But the reality is I my people that I've been

1409
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 6: friends with for twenty five thirty years, they built me

1410
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 6: back up.

1411
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: They was like, hey, girl, I know you, you know

1412
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: you you're a good friend. Don't let these people tell

1413
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 2: you're not.

1414
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 3: Because there was a.

1415
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 6: Time when this group of ladies were telling me that

1416
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:00,719
Speaker 6: I was a good friend.

1417
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 3: I'll never forget it.

1418
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 2: En quas townhouse.

1419
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 3: Town as long as you don't pay.

1420
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: And all these ladies, okay, even.

1421
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 6: My best scene, even my best Hey, you're deserting us.

1422
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: You have new friends, and you're not really giving out

1423
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: our time. And I'm like, well, y'all killing me, y'all

1424
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 2: break'll the other people was fun at the time, and

1425
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 2: they were building me back up.

1426
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 3: And evencause when I went out.

1427
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm done. I don't want to do

1428
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 2: Mary's mess. I was so done and and I needed that,

1429
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 2: and so I don't.

1430
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 3: I don't feel bad for anything.

1431
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 7: Why are you able to forgive Anila? Though?

1432
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 2: Or saying the same thing? Did you hear what I say?

1433
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 2: A producer king, we all have made mistakes on this.

1434
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 11: Ana's was a yobu too, wasn't at okay?

1435
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 6: And let me tell you why. Production told me they

1436
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 6: said she won't stab you in the back. They said,

1437
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 6: you ringing this girl on, that's your bestie.

1438
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 2: She's gonna stab you in the back.

1439
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say who said it, you know, And

1440
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 6: I was like, no, not Anila, her family. And so

1441
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 6: when it happened, I was genuinely hurt like then Eugenie

1442
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 6: got genuinely hurt, because if you see his wife hurt,

1443
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 6: he hurts, right.

1444
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: So at that point I was like, anything, they could

1445
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 2: have done anything.

1446
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 6: I was with Anila yesterday and I was like, and

1447
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 6: we were driving in the black card laughing, ha ha ha,

1448
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 6: and I and I said, you remember when I pushed

1449
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 6: you on camera?

1450
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: Do you remember at this at your skating party? And

1451
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 2: we were all taking a picture and I pushed and

1452
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 2: I said, I was playing. I said, but the qual

1453
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 2: and heavenly tried to say that I was about to

1454
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 2: fight you. She said they did, and they continued to

1455
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 2: do that to her, and I recognized, you know what,

1456
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:23,799
Speaker 2: Aniela is a victim. She really is. She's a victim

1457
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 2: of the same thing that I was a victim of.

1458
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 6: Early on, when you know, you believe everything, you want

1459
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,440
Speaker 6: to believe everybody like you.

1460
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 2: You want to believe that everybody.

1461
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 3: Just wants to be your friend.

1462
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 6: But really they're planning seeds, right, and they're building. At

1463
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 6: the time was their side of the couch, and so

1464
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 6: they was trying to get in that because they didn't

1465
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 6: understand that.

1466
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 2: The couch was heavy literally and the figure.

1467
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 11: You know, but to answer your question. It was easy.

1468
01:20:56,040 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 6: It was easy for me to forgive Aneila because I have.

1469
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 3: Always been a forgiving.

1470
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 2: Person on the show. I hate that they're drawing this

1471
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 2: garritage that I would hate somebody, because I don't hate,

1472
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 2: not a soul in the world. We never see me forget.

1473
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, you forgave Mariah right, I forgave Aldra.

1474
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 6: I cried with Aldra right. I cleared that up when

1475
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 6: I could have not. I could have went further, even behind.

1476
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 2: The scenes of like this girl tried to attack me

1477
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 2: on camera, but instead I was like, I've been there

1478
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: when you just you, you just lose yourself, you know.

1479
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 2: And so I've always been a forgiving person, so sh

1480
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: I felt like someone hurt me when we were yelling

1481
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 2: at each other, not hearing each other.

1482
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 6: We did, but I have to get to a place

1483
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 6: where and I took the time so that.

1484
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 2: I can forgive. And normally when I forgive, I forget,

1485
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 2: I forget. I'm like, and I I really do move

1486
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: past this. I really do.

1487
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,440
Speaker 3: Aniela genuinely.

1488
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 2: Came to me to my doorstep and she was like

1489
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 2: almost in tears, like I just want my friend back,

1490
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: and I said, you want your job back I did,

1491
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 2: and she said, I do, and I can appreciate that.

1492
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: I can appreciate that. And I said, I said, I'm

1493
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 2: falling forward if it brings ratings. I said, but what

1494
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do is pretend to be your friend

1495
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 2: if you're not a genuine friend to me. And she said,

1496
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 2: let me prove it.

1497
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 3: I'm She was like, I'm sorry.

1498
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 6: She was so honest about everything she had did and

1499
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, we'll see going forward.

1500
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 4: So one last question, Oh boy, do you guys miss

1501
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 4: Mariah being Ona Shell?

1502
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 2: I think Mariah makes amazing TV. Yeah, I do, but

1503
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 2: I don't, like we said earlier, we don't have any

1504
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 2: control over that, you know. I yeah, and I don't

1505
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 2: have a hammer and I have veils. Let me say that,

1506
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 2: I fall she makes amazing TV. And she got there's

1507
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 2: so many scenes that Mariah has done that I will

1508
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 2: never forget that. I chuckle to my thought. And I

1509
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 2: was just like, she was amazing on camera and she

1510
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: was being her authentic healf to be honest with you,

1511
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 2: that was who she was. And didn't like to see

1512
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 2: her back. I would love to see her back.

1513
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 8: I think heavily and her have some mending.

1514
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 7: I watch at the end of the day, Ham they

1515
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 7: need somebody to play with.

1516
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I felt like and baby, they used to

1517
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 2: play I would agree with you, but there I take

1518
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 2: one exception to the comment. Is playing under the mud

1519
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 2: now and if she had stayed her lighter, lightheart itself

1520
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:13,719
Speaker 2: like she was season two, season three starting to get

1521
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: treacherous in four, we could play she goes way too far.

1522
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 2: And so because of that play band, I don't even

1523
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 2: want to be affiliated with the show where you got

1524
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 2: to play that hard boom. Yeah I got. I got

1525
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 2: six more years in my industry, applying every other year

1526
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 2: for hospital privileges, applying every year to renew my mouthpractice.

1527
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. I never wanted to

1528
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 2: sign up. I'm I'm cool with having a little spae match.

1529
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 2: We don't agree. You you do some reason on your

1530
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,799
Speaker 2: green screen. I do some reens on I can screen.

1531
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 2: You can even say your mama. But it's there is

1532
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: some dragging that is so bad. I don't want to

1533
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 2: be a part of it. And so if you're gonna

1534
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 2: get somebody to play with, heavenly I need to be

1535
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 2: released because I don't. I don't want to be on

1536
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 2: a show where it has to be that bad and

1537
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 2: that negative and that nasty.

1538
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 3: If that's all we have to give.

1539
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 2: If I can't show you a scene with my sons

1540
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 2: buying them some property, I gotta go somewhere else and

1541
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 2: just go back to doing pap smears. And I'm so

1542
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: happy doing pap smears and delivering babies. I could say.

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01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 3: It has been a great ride.

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01:25:56,120 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 2: But if it is today, mentally, I'm okay with that

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01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 2: because it's so far we can't go.

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01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 4: I just I want to speak on behalf of the

1547
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 4: viewers because I am the president of the Maritime Medicine

1548
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 4: Fan Club.

1549
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, come out, I can have No.

1550
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 4: We don't want to see that either, And that's why

1551
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,440
Speaker 4: when I was saying about being triggered watching that episode,

1552
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 4: it wasn't just about her.

1553
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,839
Speaker 2: It's about all of y'all, like all of my girls.

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01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 7: Going out like that, because I'm like, we don't. We

1555
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 7: don't do that, Like how do we go out?

1556
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 2: No, this is what I would like for the show

1557
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: to be.

1558
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 4: Listen, my favorite season will always be season five, and

1559
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:39,959
Speaker 4: I'm gonna.

1560
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: Tell you why.

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01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:48,520
Speaker 4: Everybody have personal story going on, and it was minimal

1562
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 4: female conflict, you know, what I'm saying, it wasn't you

1563
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 4: used to have a.

1564
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 2: Little bit at.

1565
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 4: A little bit like you know, but but the but

1566
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 4: the a story, what was happening in the household and

1567
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 4: navigation through the marriages and the word. And look, that's

1568
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 4: why I said Sweet Tea brought up in great this

1569
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 4: season because it was nice to see a different perspective.

1570
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 2: So going forward, you're going to hold Heavenly accountable for

1571
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,799
Speaker 2: having a story personal story.

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01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 4: Well, this is what she has said, and I think

1573
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 4: this is the reason why she gets away with it.

1574
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 4: And again I'm not the producer of the show, because

1575
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 4: you know, she is saying you will never get her

1576
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 4: marriage on the show, that.

1577
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,879
Speaker 2: She'll marriage very we have very limited family.

1578
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, she said, she said, I will give you everything

1579
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 4: else except that I expect that. She she I would

1580
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 4: be messy, I'll call people out on a bullshit.

1581
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 2: But that's but that's her entertained, that's her making us

1582
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: her story. No, I know she but you do have

1583
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 2: you wondering exactly what goes on in that house in

1584
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: her marriage. I want to say.

1585
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 7: That old and are gone. No, I want to see that.

1586
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 2: I want to go in the d R. You want

1587
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 2: are they are they. I don't know because we're.

1588
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 3: Talking about I haven't. I'm talking about anybody but heaven Okay,

1589
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 3: did y'all switch to what y'all talking about?

1590
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 2: You said that's her best. I'm just messing with you

1591
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 2: and definitely messing with him. And she's a little bit

1592
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 2: I know.

1593
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 4: So the cast from next season would be the d R.

1594
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 4: We want to see curtesies retreat and resort.

1595
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 2: I agree. I would have been an investor. I think

1596
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 2: we all would have. We all are looking for propery

1597
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 2: brou I'm not but not in the D. So y'all

1598
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 2: have property the d R. Now, I love d R.

1599
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 2: I have amazing to have, beautiful water, beautiful people. People

1600
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 2: think I'm from the DR. I love the beautiful women.

1601
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 2: I have no beaut Bahamas beautiful, yes, beautiful resources.

1602
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 7: It's a beautiful town.

1603
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 3: We went to Mexico.

1604
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 4: Yes, so you're voting for us to go to uh DR.

1605
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 4: So my my, my wish for next season is this.

1606
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 4: I want the collective to get back together. I want

1607
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 4: you ladies to find a way to all, you know,

1608
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 4: be one cohesive units. I would love to see what

1609
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 4: happens with Sweet Tea and Heavenly.

1610
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 2: I would love to see doctor Alicia.

1611
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 4: And doctor Kima. I love his point of view because

1612
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 4: it's different.

1613
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: You don't necessarily agree, but it's different.

1614
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 4: I don't agree with it, but he stands on business

1615
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 4: and I appreciate when somebody's like, this is unpopular, but

1616
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it.

1617
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 2: And you think we're gonna see something real with doctor

1618
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 2: Lisha and doctor Kima.

1619
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 4: Well, I'm hopeful based on how she got with Heavenly

1620
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 4: on the I G Live because.

1621
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 2: I told him. I said she helped her own and

1622
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 2: I was proud of her.

1623
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 4: I said she unmuted the zoom call and you know

1624
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 4: said something. I said, she's a little you know there's

1625
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 4: something up there.

1626
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:40,560
Speaker 2: Because baby, I don't think she's gonna get read. I

1627
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 2: don't think she would show that.

1628
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 6: But she had all season to say how she built

1629
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 6: about him.

1630
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 2: She never did it. Her attacks were only at me

1631
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 2: all season because we know you'll hit a bit. Said

1632
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 2: so much.

1633
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 3: He didn't give her anything.

1634
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 2: I know, because I said, that means you woke up

1635
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 2: the show. We don't get somebody nothing. I know how

1636
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:06,839
Speaker 2: this works, but look great tat me if it's genuine,

1637
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,639
Speaker 2: if you have a genuine concern I'll give it to you.

1638
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 2: I'll give you what you want. Okay, so I'll call

1639
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 2: all drop all. The thing is, I have no concerns

1640
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:18,600
Speaker 2: with me.

1641
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 4: I'm I'm teazing, I'm teazing. But no great season, great season.

1642
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 4: Congratulations on the ratings and this climate. To have a

1643
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:33,759
Speaker 4: show beall for ten years and to have a double

1644
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 4: digit increase in ratings where you're beating other shows for

1645
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 4: the first time in history. As a testament to you, ladies,

1646
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 4: it really is, continue to thrive, continue to just figure

1647
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 4: shit out in a very funny, respectful, shady way.

1648
01:31:53,040 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 7: Okay, I love you girls. Thank you, doctor Samosavid the thanks.

1649
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,840
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1650
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:13,920
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1651
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01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:52,120
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