1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Better Happy Hour. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and we have a big 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: interview for you right now. 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: We have Leslie in the studio. Leslie, how you doing. 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm okay. 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: It's nice, so nice to have you here. I'm so 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: happy we get to do this in person. You look lovely. 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 2: Thank you And yeah, I guess it was a rough, 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: a rough journey for you to say, at least it was. 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: Let's start, I guess, like the biggest question that I've 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: been seeing and a lot of I think a lot 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: of people want to know. Let's just start with the 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: fantasy suite night. We'll start with that date Porsche, because 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: we us watching that date and Serena, I'm sure you 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: could agree, Like we watched it were like, okay, it's 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: gonna be Leslie. 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: But I think we can all agree that wasn't just 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 4: from like putting pieces together. There were things being said 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 4: that were very clear and direct that probably led you 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 4: to believe, that led the viewers to believe, right totally. 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I guess, yeah, you want to explain, just 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 5: to explain that that date portion first, like how how 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 5: everything went and how you really felt and were you 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 5: also aware like that he could. 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: Be saying these same things to Teresa. 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 6: So the afternoon date, of course, scaling down the waterfall 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 6: was scary, and you know, it was great at the 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 6: same time. Obviously, we had a wonderful time together and 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 6: we bonded, and I really felt even more for Gary 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 6: because he had my back, although he could have taken 31 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 6: the waterfall side. But that's a point not. 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 7: Wait, I can't let you keep going. Because we said that. 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 4: I was like, this poor woman is like so scared 34 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 4: and she's also getting whacked in the face. 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: Now that it was bad. 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 6: And then he actually said when we got down, I 37 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 6: should have been on that side. I'm like, get thank. 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, you had my back. 39 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 6: Kinda but no. But besides that, we had a wonderful time. 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 6: We you know, we felt I felt like we got closer. 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 6: And then we had our dinner and he you know, 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 6: kind of squashed my fears in Gary fashion and told 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 6: me everything was going to be okay, and you know 44 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 6: all that stuff, and we had fun. We just laughed 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 6: a lot together. So for me that was really important 46 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 6: because I love to laugh and I love to make 47 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 6: people laugh. So I was really we just were in 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 6: sync that way, and and then I said. 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: This last night. 50 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 6: Everybody knows what he said on camera, but it was 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 6: off camera in our overnight that only him and I 52 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 6: know what was said. And you know, I don't want 53 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 6: to say everything he said, but it was one hundred 54 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 6: percent certainty, and I woke up the next morning that 55 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 6: I was going to be it. 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 5: Well, so I guess like it came out that Teresa 57 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 5: said that he basically proposed to her. 58 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: I didn't see that last night. 59 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: Okay, so I mean, essentially, did he do that with you? 60 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 6: Propose to me? He made plans with me for future, He. 61 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Said, he plans with you for the future. 62 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: Kind of like saved the date. This is what we're 63 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 3: going to do. 64 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 6: I can't wait for us two more days, you know, 65 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 6: we'll be done with this, be together, start our life. 66 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 6: Did he say will you marry me? In there? 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: No, but he all but said that. 68 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 6: I mean, I would have been happy with just I 69 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 6: love you, but he took it to a different level. 70 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 6: And when he woke up, we woke up the next 71 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 6: morning and he left. He turned around three times and 72 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 6: bloomy kisses. He didn't want to leave. That's why I 73 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 6: wasn't worried that he was going on a day. I 74 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 6: was just knew that he had to get through the 75 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 6: motions of it, and I mean I was one hundred 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 6: percent then I was it. And I mean he didn't 77 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 6: lead me. He didn't say I have such a hard 78 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 6: decision to make. I don't you know, nothing like that. 79 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 6: So I just didn't. 80 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, because what we saw a lot of was him 81 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 4: saying multiple times with the season, like you're my girl 82 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: or I think you're the one. 83 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 7: That sounds like going into the fantasy suites. 84 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: The relationship and the commitment to one another was taken 85 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 4: even further than that. Yes, how did that feel? You know, 86 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 4: you're off camera, You don't really know what's going to happen. 87 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: You go on the Facebook, you or what he's going 88 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 4: to say. You don't know what the conversation is going 89 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: to be like. For all you know, you're gonna go 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 4: and he's going to be you know, say what you said, like, 91 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: I have a really tough decision to make. How did 92 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: that feel for you being in there hearing all of 93 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 4: these things? It must have been such a relief. 94 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: Well it was a relief. 95 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 6: I was excited, and I mean we literally were so 96 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 6: comfortable with each other the minute we got in there 97 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 6: in the door closed, we brushed our teeth together. I mean, 98 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 6: it wasn't like, what are we doing now? You know, 99 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 6: we talked for hours, and you know, there was so 100 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 6: much I wanted to tell him about me and he 101 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 6: wanted to tell me about him, and so it was great. 102 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 6: I mean I felt closer to him, like this is it, 103 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 6: and so it was really nice because I thought, Okay, 104 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 6: that's why I went and picked out this dress, and 105 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 6: why I wrote our vowels or my vows and because 106 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 6: I was one hundred percent certain. And there was things 107 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 6: he said to me in the overnight that alluded to 108 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 6: his overnight with Teresa's not going to be the same. 109 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to ask you, so you knew 110 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 5: that Theresa was going next? After feeling pretty confident, was 111 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 5: there a part of you that was still like, okay, 112 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 5: but Teresa hasn't had this time. Maybe something happens in 113 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 5: there where then he leans her way. 114 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 6: You know, Joe, I really didn't. And I said last night, 115 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 6: I don't go through life going I got this. I 116 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 6: got this, you know, I go through life going I 117 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 6: might have it, and when I get it, I'll say 118 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 6: I got it, you know, or basically I just cautiously optimistic. 119 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 6: I'm never getting ahead of myself. I don't assume, and 120 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 6: I never assumed this whole journey. I was just like, 121 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 6: I'm going to stay in my lane. I'm gonna just 122 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 6: focus on what I have with Gary. I don't want 123 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 6: to hear the chatter. I don't want to you know, 124 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 6: all that stuff. And yeah, so I kind of left 125 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 6: that morning. 126 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: Confident. 127 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. 128 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: Good. 129 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 5: So let's what I'm gonna give you a hypothetical here. 130 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 5: Let's say you're the Golden Bachelorette and it's down the 131 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 5: Fantasy sweet Nights. You're basically in love with two men. 132 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 5: How do you handle it differently? 133 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 6: I for sure would never tell anyone I love them 134 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 6: until I'm on that platform with them and I know it. 135 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: I just wouldn't do that. 136 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: How About how about when they I agree with you 137 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: and I feel like that's what I would do as well. 138 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: But if they say to you I love you and 139 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: you feel that, do you do you think you can 140 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: hold that back? 141 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 6: Yeah? Okay, because I just don't want to hurt. I 142 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 6: would never want to hurt anyone the way I was 143 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 6: hurt or blindsided or I can't. I mean, my heart 144 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 6: is precious to me and I'm just not going to 145 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 6: give it to anybody. And when you say I love 146 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 6: you to somebody, it means something. 147 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, And. 148 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 6: I just I just don't throw that word around. I 149 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 6: haven't said it in a really long time to someone, 150 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 6: so it was it meant something to me to say 151 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 6: it to Gary, and I just I know it would 152 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 6: be hard. 153 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's hard when. 154 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 6: You do you maybe do love two different people or 155 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 6: three different people, But I just wouldn't say it. I 156 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 6: would just show my affection in a different way totally. 157 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 6: Did you know he was saying it to multiple people 158 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 6: or did you consider maybe he was. I knew he 159 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 6: had said it to Faith because he told me, okay, 160 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 6: but I did not know that he said it to Teresa. 161 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 5: Before Fantasy Suites. Would and let's say it ended with 162 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 5: him going with Teresa before Fantasy Suites. 163 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: Would you still feel like. 164 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 5: You were blindsided or do you think you were blindsided 165 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 5: after Fantasy because of what went down? Because of what 166 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 5: went down in Fantasy Sweets? Is that why you feel 167 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 5: like you were blindsided? Yes, okay, I just want to 168 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 5: I just didn't know if it was basically, you know, 169 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 5: leading up the entire. 170 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: Season, right, No, okay, that was kind of the pivotal moment. Yeah, okay, 171 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 4: So after Fantasy Sweets, we meet the family. 172 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, how does that go? 173 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 6: So I walk up. Gary's hugging me. I made a joke. 174 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 6: He laughed. He says, you know, are you ready? And 175 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 6: I'm like ready. 176 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: I walked in. 177 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 6: We had the best time. We were dancing and we 178 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 6: were laughing, and you know, I his granddaughters were so 179 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 6: sweet and they just cried with me and laughed with me, 180 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 6: and we just had a great time. And so walking 181 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 6: out of that I felt so good. And then we 182 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 6: sit on that bench just say goodbye, and all of 183 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 6: a sudden, like my walls came down and his wall 184 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 6: went up. But I have no idea how that happened, 185 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 6: from being in with his family to being on that bench. 186 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: It was after his family when you guys sat on 187 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: that bench. 188 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, ok yeah, no, because I remember because he was like, 189 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 4: are you ready to go? 190 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 7: And he definitely had. 191 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: More of a closed off energy to him, and You're like, well, 192 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 4: I'm never ready to go. 193 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 194 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 7: I think I'm a big believer. 195 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 4: In women's intuition. I believe It's very strong if you 196 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: listen to it. And I'm a big believer, you know, 197 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 4: hindsight's twenty twenty. Looking back, do you like living in 198 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: that moment? You know? I know you said like he 199 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: was exhausted, right, But looking back, do you see that 200 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 4: moment differently? 201 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: Well? 202 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 6: Yes, of course, because I was justifying his exhaustion for 203 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 6: his wall. Although he was tired throughout the process, we 204 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 6: all were, and he never acted like that. So I 205 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 6: just didn't understand the disconnect and the flip, and in 206 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 6: my head I was justifying it, right, you know. But yes, 207 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 6: when I watched it back last night, yeah, he was. 208 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 6: It was very and then give me a hug. I 209 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 6: mean we kissed goodbye, you know, and then I don't know, 210 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 6: it was just his mind was already made up. 211 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, see, I felt that way. 212 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 2: The crazy thing is I felt that way when I 213 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: first watched his date with Teresa when they were on 214 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: the horses, it seemed like he had made up his 215 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: mind was choosing you, I know. 216 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's heat. 217 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like the Gary we saw with Teresa 218 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: on the horses was the same Gary we saw with 219 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: Leslie yes on the bench after the home Dwes. 220 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think it was you up 221 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: until he had his fantasy sweet time with Teresa? 222 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: I do. 223 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't see last night's sex segment with Teresa 224 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 6: and Gary. 225 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: I didn't see it at all. I'll watch it when 226 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: I get home. 227 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 7: But will you watch it? Do you want to watch it? 228 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: Maybe not? I don't know. 229 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like I didn't get a ton 230 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 6: of closure with him, you know, but that's okay. 231 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: I felt like I closed it with myself. 232 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's let's go there. So let's go to Yeah, 233 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: you see, So. 234 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 7: What about going into it? 235 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: Because I think everyone goes into those final conversations looking 236 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 4: for that closure, right, yeah, that piece? What do you 237 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: what were you hoping for to get that closure? 238 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 7: What were you hoping for from him? 239 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's my first rodeo, so I and 240 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 6: I've watched the show since conception. Just is the reason 241 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 6: why I've watched the show since conception. But you don't 242 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 6: really get a lot of closure. What can they say? 243 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 6: They had to make a choice. It's his journey, his choice. 244 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 6: But he could have chosen not to say those things 245 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 6: to me. That's all I he said. He wasn't ready, 246 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 6: as you know, his heart wasn't ready or something like 247 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 6: that kind of glazing over at that point. But I 248 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 6: you know, I didn't get closure from him, and I 249 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 6: don't know if anything he would have said would have 250 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 6: really given me closure. He said I decided or something 251 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 6: about choosing Teresa over me, and I thought that was 252 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 6: all harsh, like he could have maybe said that a 253 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 6: little bit nicer, you know, especially because being chosen is 254 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 6: kind of my my little Yeah. 255 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 5: I felt a little like a business like, yeah, yeah, 256 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 5: like you were almost being fireds Yeah. 257 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 6: And I felt that way too, But I don't know, Gary, 258 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 6: I feel like he switched. And you know, I guess 259 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 6: the only thing I would have liked to I forgot, 260 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 6: or didn't forget. I should have said, I thought you're 261 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 6: a man of integrity instead of you're a man of integrity, 262 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 6: because at the end of the day, he didn't really 263 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 6: have the integrity that I thought he had, you know, 264 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 6: I mean, listen, I know I signed what I signed 265 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 6: up for. 266 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: You know that someone has. 267 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: To go, someone has to be heartbroken, totally. 268 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: I get that. I just I haven't I didn't expect 269 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: it to be so hard. 270 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, we've talked about you know, your date, your time, 271 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: your overnight meeting, the family. 272 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, next we got to talk about the breakup. 273 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 4: So you have this night day and your your intuition 274 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 4: is like I feel like getting stronger as this day 275 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 4: goes on, because you're like, now you're like, what is 276 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: going on here? Tell us about that conversation, the first 277 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: one with him? 278 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 6: Yes, well, you know, I just I could tell the 279 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 6: minute he walked in. But I was like, again, no, 280 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 6: he's tired. 281 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 4: Which for anyone that's been on the show, like it 282 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 4: is really tiring. 283 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: So and it's. 284 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 5: Easy could see how you you would use that as 285 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 5: an excuse, because yeah, it's an easy It's true. 286 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: Probably any probably is tired. 287 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 6: Well, he didn't have a day in between us, which 288 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 6: is tired, because I know how I felt, and I 289 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 6: can't I mean like I can't imagine him doing again 290 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 6: the whole day. And you know, he's a little older, 291 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 6: even though he has a lot of energy, but it's tiring, 292 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 6: it's mentally tiring and all that. So I just kept 293 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 6: talking it up for that and you know, I gave 294 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 6: him a photo album and then I said in all 295 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 6: these pages are for our future. 296 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: And he was just off there. 297 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, even though he goes, oh, you know, and when 298 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 6: I told him, you know that I loved him or something, 299 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 6: he said, that's such a sweet sentiment. I'm like, you know, 300 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 6: I could feel the tears welling up. 301 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 7: Yeah. 302 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 5: Now, after everything, do you do you respect him? 303 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 6: I mean, Gary is he did what he did, it's 304 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 6: his journey. Do I respect him? I just wish he 305 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 6: would have done it different. I don't respect what he did. 306 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 6: I mean it's started with faith, you know, and then 307 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 6: me a little more because I went to Costa Rica 308 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 6: and did all that. So I feel like he just 309 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 6: used I love you too much? And do I respect him? 310 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 6: That's such a hard question because I want to say 311 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 6: I do you know? But it's hard. 312 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're hurt. 313 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah me, how. 314 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: You know, after seeing everything, how heavier children reacted, how 315 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: do they feel about that? 316 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: My kids, Now, you're gonna make me cry. 317 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 6: My kids are literally the most supportive children I've ever 318 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 6: seen in my life. I mean, there's a lot of 319 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 6: things I didn't do right in this world, but those 320 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 6: three things. 321 00:16:58,960 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 7: Your kids seem really great. 322 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 323 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 7: They're me really close. 324 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 6: I mean, they're my best friends. And if you ask 325 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 6: either all three of them who's your best friend? They're 326 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 6: all going to say me, And even my grandson who's ten, 327 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 6: says I'm his best friend. So Sophia Jerry's on on. 328 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 7: She'll get she'll get there one, she'll come around with grandma. 329 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 6: But they are They have been so supportive of me 330 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 6: since day one. I mean, it was my daughter who 331 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 6: actually came up with the Golden Bachelor before anyone, because 332 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 6: years ago, before COVID, years ago, we're sitting on my 333 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 6: couch watching I don't even know what season it was, 334 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 6: but we were watching it and she's like, Mom, you'd 335 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 6: be so good on this show. I'm like, they're twenty five, Chloe. 336 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 6: She goes, no, but maybe they should do one for 337 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 6: older people, and I said, so people really want to 338 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 6: see old people kissing in a hot tub. 339 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: And then I was kissing hot So we laugh. 340 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 6: About that all the time because she just turned to 341 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 6: me one day and said they should do this for 342 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 6: older people. And it's funny because I do get a 343 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 6: lot of young people coming up to me all the 344 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 6: time saying you made growing old not so scary and yeah, 345 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 6: you're an inspiration. So yeah, it's been. 346 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 7: How was it for them to see you get heartbroken. 347 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 6: That was hard. I mean, Zach was with me where 348 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 6: he was at the show last night. Chloe called me 349 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 6: crying and Eli texted me the most beautiful He's just 350 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 6: he's like an orator, like he's his words are amazing. 351 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 6: And he texted me the most beautiful message that I 352 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 6: cry when you cry. My heartbreaks when your heart breaks. 353 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 6: I mean it was just like yeah, yeah, And then 354 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 6: his fiancee text me to go. This was really hard 355 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 6: for Eli to watch. I mean, he is a mess 356 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 6: right now. So because they it is tough. I mean 357 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 6: they've seen me, you know, be a fighter their whole 358 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 6: life and and try and try with their dad and 359 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 6: try with everything, and they just know that. They always 360 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 6: say your love is for You're gonna find it. You're 361 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 6: going to find it. And then I go, you know, 362 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 6: I get on the show. Employe's like, go get your man, mom, 363 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 6: be open hearted, you know, And and I did. 364 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 3: I did that. 365 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were phone. There's nothing to be ashamed about. 366 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: You read anything. 367 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 6: You know. I don't really regret anything because I'm so 368 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 6: glad I did it. I made lifelong friends with the girls, 369 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 6: so yeah, I just I don't regret a single minute 370 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 6: of it. You know, I don't if I would have 371 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 6: done anything different, I don't because I was me and 372 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 6: doing something different would have not been me, So I don't. 373 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: Do you do you think. 374 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 5: Being a fan of the show and watching it for 375 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 5: so long, do you think that gave you any edge 376 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 5: going into it? 377 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: Hmm, that's a good question. 378 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: I mean. 379 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: I feel like I mean, Faith's never seen the show. 380 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 7: Yes, And when we talked to Faith. 381 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: Whenever we talk to people that haven't watched the show, 382 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: a lot of the time they say I wish I 383 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 4: had or I wish I'd watched a season. 384 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 7: You know, just didn't know what I was getting there. 385 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 6: Because she was like, what's happening now? Wait, what's going on? 386 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 6: What's the person impression world? 387 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: Well, you know, and it was funny. 388 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: It's so funny too, because Dowton and Charity Dowton didn't 389 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 4: watch the show, and he was like, I didn't even 390 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 4: know there was a proposal at the end until like halfway. 391 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 7: Through, which so sometimes it works out, but. 392 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 4: I think a lot of the time there is I 393 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 4: just think it's good to know what you're getting yourself. 394 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, too, well, definitely, I'm like Faith, they should have 395 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 6: done a little homework, you know, but but I you know, 396 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 6: I think I I knew what was happening. I was, 397 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 6: you know, but when you're in it sometimes you don't 398 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 6: realize the cameras are hidden in the thing you don't like. 399 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 6: You forget, you know, forget your mic. Do you forget? 400 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 6: You know, it's different watching versus doing it exactly. Should 401 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 6: I have maybe done my hair that day? 402 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: Maybe? But you know, I kind of got lazy and whatever. 403 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 3: I was just me. 404 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 7: It's a long time to film. I got. 405 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 4: I stopped wearing I was wearing sweatpants every day. But 406 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 4: you make up by the thank you because. 407 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 3: Everyone's like your hair, what's wrong with your hair? Like 408 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 3: it's curly, beautiful. 409 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 1: I pecked a carry on for Paradise. I think that's all. 410 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: That's literally all I brought. 411 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 5: Do you think you think if you would have met 412 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 5: Gary at let's just say, a restaurant in Minnesota, do 413 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 5: you think you would. 414 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: Have hit it off? I do? 415 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 6: I mean his I do because his humor is he 416 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 6: is funny. 417 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 4: He made your favorite part of this was that one 418 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 4: joke that he made the tell. 419 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he did say funny stupid dad jokes sometimes, 420 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 6: but he he made me laugh. And what I loved 421 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 6: most that I made him laugh And he didn't judge 422 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 6: me for anything I say, he just he kind of 423 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 6: got my humor and that made me try to be 424 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 6: even more funny. And we just had fun. We laughed 425 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 6: a lot, and that's a big part of my life, 426 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 6: you know. I I come from a funny family. I've 427 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 6: laughed my whole life. We all laughed together, and so 428 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 6: that's a huge part of my mate. 429 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 4: Well, I think even though it didn't work out between 430 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 4: the two of you, there was chemistry undeniably. 431 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: So we did. 432 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, did you know when he walked back into 433 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 4: your room that night that he was the breakup was happening, 434 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 4: you felt it? 435 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, well I knew what he's doing because well, I 436 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 6: don't know how much how much I should say? 437 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, let's well, how about this. 438 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 5: We'll get into more of it for part two, So everyone, 439 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 5: please uh stay tuned because well we will be back 440 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 5: for part two with Leslie and yeah, thank you for 441 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 5: tuning into happ y'all, and don't forget to subscribe.