WEBVTT - House Passes Permanent Daylight Saving Time; Science Says Not So Fast! 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:02.880 Hate everybody. 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:07.480 We can't agree on anything in this country, including what 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.720 time it is. Welcome everybody that's robes on TJ Daylight 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.480 Saving time the way we do it now, you're forward 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:16.040 or against it? 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:17.239 Do you want them to change this? 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:20.960 Before reading all the research. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.440 That you've provided here, There you go. 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:28.080 My answer has always been, yes, I get depressed when 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.760 we have to turn the clocks back. Yes, I get 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.520 an extra hour of sleep, but that doesn't in any 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:37.120 way compensate for the fact that I hate when it 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.000 gets dark at four point fifteen here in New York 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:44.400 City in the winter time. It's oof. That takes a 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:45.800 toll on me mentally. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.080 Okay, like everybody else, they hate it because of the moment, 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.680 the moment being when you switch the clocks. You don't 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.239 have a problem when they switch the clocks. When we 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.960 spring forward, that doesn't mess you up necessarily. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.200 Well, no, because it stays lighter longer, which makes me happy. 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.640 When it gets darker early, it makes me sad. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.160 And you know you know this better than anybody. But 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.520 the weather is not in control of your mood. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.600 You tell me this, all right, but it does it. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.360 They have been the mood when things get dark at 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:16.240 four fifteen. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.600 It's personal to everybody and that's the issue, and we're 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.400 trying to make it uniform for the whole country and 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.960 it's difficult, but yes, it's talked to, being talked about 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:27.600 right now, it's being talked about again. It's talked about 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.800 pretty much every year. This happens pretty much every year, 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.120 and there's some bills that have been sitting in Congress 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.280 for years and years. They introduce it and they want 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.680 to get rid of this bi annual thing we do, 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:40.960 which is switch the clocks. So they want us to 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:44.000 all be on what as we sit here, we're currently 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:48.840 on daylight saving time, which means we put the clocks. 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.120 Forward, yes, in the springtime. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:55.000 So the way they are right now, a bill that's 0:01:55.040 --> 0:02:01.320 been now approved in Congress would keep the time as 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.240 it is and we'd never switch back. 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:03.880 And here we are. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.800 How's that sounding amazing? And by the way, it was 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:11.960 overwhelmingly approved in the House wheep this time. However, it 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:15.560 doesn't mean that's where we're headed, because why would we 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.360 ever expect the House and the Senate to agree on anything. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.040 Well, this is when they should agree on. This is 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.160 what we should have a debate about. During war maybe not. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.639 It doesn't seem of all. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.160 That was going on and we had a shut down, 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.640 they can get this done priorities. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:33.240 But yes, it is. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.320 They bring it up every year, but it's a big 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.280 deal now, Rose because yes, not only did it get 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:39.040 brought up. 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.760 It has passed the house robes. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:47.640 It's one step away from possibly this country going to 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:52.080 a full time daylight saving time, no more switching. 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.880 And the President has already said he absolutely will give 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.480 his stamp of approval. In fact, he has been encouraging. 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.560 I believe he started making comments about this as early 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.720 as May of this year, twenty twenty six, and was 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.840 kind of saying, you're an idiot if you don't want 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.959 more sunshine. I mean you paraphrasing a little bit. Is that? 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.440 Do you find that's an oprah simplification of what's happening. 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.320 But that's the argument that most people make. This is stupid. 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.320 Why are we doing this? It throws us off, It 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:20.440 throws our bodies off. 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.519 It does get a lot easier now in current times 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.720 where my phone automatically updates and a lot of our 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.200 electronics automatically update. But I have to tell you, I 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.040 remember being so annoyed. In fact, we do have some 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.280 manual clocks. I'm like, for the love of God, twice 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.480 a year I have to change the yes and you 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.440 end up doing most of it. But the few times 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.480 I've had to do it, yeah, that's I am put out. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.480 So what I'm saying, what you're saying is right. It 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.600 is inconvenient. It's an annoyance. We have to go through 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:54.360 it every year. And yes, it's difficult to all of 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:58.000 a sudden change your clock, your body clock to all 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:59.720 of a sudden, I gotta get up an hour early 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.800 or hour late. Things get thrown off that I buy. 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.720 The problem here is we're having the wrong argument. I 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:10.000 didn't even realize that, but it's the wrong argument. We're 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:14.200 arguing over whether or not we should go to daylight 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:18.040 saving time full time. The argument should be we should 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.280 absolutely get rid of the way we're doing it now 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.640 doing it the switch is what everybody kind of agrees 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:26.400 is wrong. 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.000 That's the annoying part that's wrong. And especially I will 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.080 say this now that my kids are older, it doesn't 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.000 affect me. But when my kids were younger, that one 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:38.359 hour through the whole schedule into Mayhem, I couldn't believe 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.680 how much a baby or a toddler got thrown from 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.800 one hour from a one hour change, and it really 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.839 was disruptive for a couple weeks until your child gets 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.200 into a new rhythm, and twice a year you have 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.520 to go through this. I remember that being an added 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:57.840 annoyance from birth, I think from birth up until probably 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:02.120 even like like double digits. It threw my kids off, 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:03.760 and I'm sure a lot of parents had that have 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:05.839 had or are having that same experience. 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.080 What romes You bring up a very good point that 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:12.280 doesn't get talked about enough in these debates. Your circadian rhythm. 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.080 Let's we're gonna talk about it here a little more later. 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:18.080 But for kids, they don't have one. I know that 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.000 out when they're born. They don't have that internal clock. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.520 It develops over time. So if a kid trying to 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:28.719 develop an internal clock, you just took an hour away, 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.040 or you gave an hour twice a year, it's hell. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.240 It is bad on kids, and that's exactly why, And. 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.520 That means it's bad on parents, which affects almost everybody 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.440 in this country at some point in their lives. 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.520 Between your clocks and your kids. You really hate. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.919 Daylist, Nay, I really do I've actually felt very passionate 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.760 about it for most of my life. I'm kind of 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.480 embarrassing to admit, but I have felt passionate about it. 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.320 To the point I was shocked that we were bordering 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.520 on a relationship fight over daylight saving. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.560 It was I didn't know you would that bad. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:02.080 You actually told me that you like the switch. You 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:06.240 look forward to the switch. I have never heard anyone 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:07.920 say that before in my life. 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.120 But I like the little gift you get. 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.960 I like the change. I like all of a sudden, 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.520 we just wake up one day and there's more light. 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.120 I like robes that we wake up one day we 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:21.400 get an extra hour of sleep. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:25.920 I like the switch. I've become some way a customed 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.960 robes my entire life. This has been the case. Why 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:29.800 you want to change it now? 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.080 The change has been constant, which is why you like it, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.080 because you're used to it, because. 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.600 There is a rhythm to it. I am used to it. 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:42.120 My body is adjusted to it now. That's my thinking. Actually, 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.120 I didn't realize there is science that backs me up. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:47.039 I didn't know that. 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.479 I'm not saying, why did you just search for the 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.640 science that validated your feelings? 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.039 No, normally, I would do that. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.120 I did, just wanted to check, okay. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.279 I did not have to this time because it was 0:06:58.320 --> 0:06:59.440 just hitting me in the face. 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.200 TJ, you are right, boom boom, Wow. 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.960 That's just a Monday or a Tuesday or a Wednesday. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.160 No, but this was interesting to hear. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.560 So do we have to explain this everybody, because sometimes 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.120 it's a little difficult for me to understand daylight saving time. 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:14.480 I get them mixed up sometimes. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.680 So daylight saving time we set our clocks back one 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.200 hour in the colder months, we set our clocks ahead 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.840 one hour in the warmer months. So we're in it 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.360 now as of this recording, but it goes from March 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.920 to November. Daylight saving time standard time is November to March. 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.040 Makes sense, so standard time, you turn the clock back 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:37.480 an hour, we get earlier sunrises and we get earlier sunsets. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.160 You don't like the earlier sunset part. 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.680 I absolutely cannot stand that. And I think it does 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.920 go back to my childhood. I remember doing homework and 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.920 thinking it's pitch black and it just made me feel eh, 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.000 And you know, I just there was actually something fun 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:57.160 And maybe this is because of our early morning ritual 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.320 being broadcast journalists for so many years, I thought there 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.680 was something exciting and fun about driving to work in 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.600 the dark, like I was doing something that no one 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.720 else was doing. And I liked that feeling. And literally 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.840 I remember I was like, oh, it's already light. My 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.600 job isn't that special. Everybody else is up now too. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.040 It's funny there coming and going. There was something about 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.720 the light differential that I somehow viewed negatively. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:22.840 Look, everybody has their thing. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:24.960 You have your reasons, and that's okay, yeah, and you 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.880 are passionate as hell about it. So daylight saving time, 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.360 So when we turn clots ahead an hour, what happens there? 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:31.920 You know what I didn't ask you about this first? 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.880 The earlier sunrises, the early not the late sunset, but 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.679 the earlier sunrises. Forget the work part of it, but 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.960 just naturally on a weekend, it. 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.679 Feels weird to me that the sunrise is here at five. 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.800 I get five thirty in the morning, it's already getting light. 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.360 I feel like that's strange. 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.000 Sorry, just getting a text message there from Sabine. I'm 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:57.160 sure she's asking about the sunrises as well. Okay, so 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:01.040 daylight saving time, we turn clots aheadun rises later. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:02.360 What do you feel about that? 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:03.719 I like it? 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:04.319 Why? 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.560 I like because we're always up early, and I have 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.600 before most of my life, and I there is something 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.280 cool about being up when it's dark and I know 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.160 the sun's about to rise, so light is coming, and 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.320 I don't know, there's just something about the anticipation of 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.360 the sunrise. I like it. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.240 One other things, what's too late for a sunrise for you? 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:26.560 What's too if the sun's still not up at what 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:27.280 time is that? 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.560 I like the sun to be up around seven am. 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.120 Okay, you're totally in my camp. We're gona get to 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.760 that in just a second. So what's happened now in 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.240 Congress this year? Robes, Yes, this kind of came as 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.120 a surprise and we saw the news first cross But 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.439 the House has passed this bill. It's called the Sunshine 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:49.520 Protection Act. Funny name from the Sunshine State Representative Anna 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.640 Paulina Luna, Republican from Florida. She is sponsoring at this time. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.599 So funny. Her last name means moon like this. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.520 Anna Paulina Luna from the Sunshine State has sponsored the 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:00.679 Sunshine Protection Act. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:02.320 I love the name. I think it's hilarious. 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.560 You can't make this stuff up though, but threeh eight 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:06.959 to one seventeen in the House, that's overwhelming. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:12.959 Overwhelming. They can't agree on anything. Everybody can agree we 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:14.840 want to protect sunlight. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.920 And they call it the Sunshine Protection Act. It makes 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.360 them sounding like their heroes or something. 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:20.160 It's hilarious. 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.640 Okay, So this would make what we have now, what 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.080 we're sitting in daylight savery time, permanent throughout the country. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.360 Robes some I did joke about it, but there are 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.720 some people who are asked for comment in Congress about this. 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.600 They said, just say, we got better things to do. 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:34.360 Like why are you asking me about I don't have 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.080 an opinion? Like who cares? Why are we doing this 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.040 in the middle of Iran war inflations? 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:39.480 What it is? 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.760 We got fights and stuff and we got all this 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:44.440 going on, We got ice, we got robes. 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:45.160 Why are we doing so? 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:46.640 We have to protect the sunshine. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:47.679 I have to protect the sun so. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.080 I have guardians of sunlight. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.440 Okay, a little sarcastic there, but they have tried this 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.120 year after year after year, but it's gone through this time. 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:55.480 Robes. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.000 You mentioned the Senate though, Okay, it got proved in 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.720 the House overwhelmingly. Word though about whether or not this 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.720 could become law. It sounds like that was a pretty 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.960 immediate pushback. It doesn't sound like this is actually gonna. 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.400 Become well know, and it seems like it's a senator 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.480 from your home state who's leading the way. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:12.160 You know what. 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.640 As we continue with names and Senator of Margason named. 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.520 Cotton, can't make it up. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.120 I didn't know we were gonna go this direction on 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:20.400 the show. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.280 But yeah, Senator Tom Cott has already come out and 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.800 said he is pleading with them not to even bring 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:26.440 it up for a vote, and if it does, they'll try. 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:26.680 To block it. 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.800 Yeah, and it seems like the Senate Majority Leader John 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.920 Thune is inclined not to bring it to the Senate floor, 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.199 so they won't even vote on it. 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:40.600 I salute you fellas. Go back a little bit, folks. 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.480 This was actually one hundred years ago that we ended 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.400 up here. It was called the Standard Time Act of 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.080 nineteen eighteen. This was actually a wartime measure ropes. They 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.200 were trying to save energy, They were trying to save 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.520 coal and oil for heating homes, so they made the switch. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.720 It only lasted a year, so they re peeled it 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.480 in nineteen nineteen. Move forward to nineteen sixty six with 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.080 the Uniform Time Act of nineteen sixty six. That's when 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.840 Congress gave themselves we have the power to change the 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.880 time zones all across the country. That's when it goes 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:11.080 into place. Now, we did this thing. Now in nineteen 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.320 sixty six rope they made the system that we currently have, 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.920 the bi annual change. But in nineteen seventy three they 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:19.080 changed it to permanent daylight. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.000 Saving time the year of my birth. That makes a 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:25.400 lot of sense. Maybe that's why I'm so passionate about it. 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:30.120 They canceled it the next year. Wow, because it didn't work. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.000 Okay, So if we've already tried this and it didn't work, 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.880 why have we not learned from that? 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:42.640 Because people don't remember history. They remember when their kids 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:46.480 were young and daylight saving coust hell, they remember changing 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:50.560 their clocks. They remember all the annoyance annoying they have. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:55.120 Those are people all elections. It's personal people. This is 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:55.760 personal for. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.559 People, and it affects everybody. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.920 It does, but it's very personal. People have their reasons. 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.240 So they tried it in nineteen seventy three, they'd haven't 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.800 yo the emergency daylight saving time energy Conservation Act. 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:07.280 You like that one. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.840 It was about energy. It wasn't about annoyance. It was 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:11.400 about conserving energy. 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.840 It was because at the time there was a fueling crisis, 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.839 so they wanted to conserve injury concern. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:18.360 What did you just say, angel energy? 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:22.679 So one year later, Robes, you were born. Oh my goodness, 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.440 you were born in daylight saving time. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.480 See that's what I said. It just comes to me naturally. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.480 It was year round at the time, year round daylight 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.080 saving switched it back. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:37.040 Why would they switch it back in just a year, Robes, 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:41.000 because people were pissed and it didn't work. It didn't 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:42.880 work in one of the major arguments. 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.880 And I'm curious to what you think about this, Robes, 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.840 kids were going to school and pitch black darkness in 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:50.839 some places in this country. 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.040 Do you know what's funny? You asked me why if 0:13:54.120 --> 0:14:00.520 I recalled or if I remembered why people were against this, 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.520 And I said, I thought it was because kids were 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.160 going to the school bus stop in the dark. I 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.280 must have remembered that from childhood, that that was a 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.680 big conversation that people were upset about it. They didn't 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.959 want their kids going to school in pitch black darkness, 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:16.319 that it was unsafe. 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.440 They also made arguments ro overy the time this is 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.120 we'll get into some more of the safety issues, but 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.520 as far as having cars out on the road, people 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.440 driving in the mornings, rush out and whatnot, they have 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:29.320 some evidence that they do believe led to more accidents. Now, 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.760 nineteen seventy three year robes when they put this in place, 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:36.560 seventy nine percent of Americans supported permanent daylight. 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.320 Saving time overwhelming Wow. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:43.640 In March that dropped a forty two percent after people 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:44.920 actually went through it. 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.560 Hell, no, we don't like this, My goodness. 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.320 Now, for whatever, I would be so curious to see 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.520 how you felt in permanent daylight saving time to where 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:59.320 you might go this. People overwhelmingly switched once they actually went. 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.440 That's fascinating that once they actually got what they wanted, 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:03.440 they didn't like it. 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.520 So are you saying, now, are you still willing to 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:08.880 try it? You want them to give it a shot? 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.680 Well, now, I'm kind of afraid. Why was it so 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:17.600 terrible that everyone just completely made a one eighty and 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.320 they lived through it? Obviously I was one, so I 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:24.040 have no memory of it. But that actually does give 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.400 me pause. I would like to learn more about why 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:30.840 people overwhelmingly wanted it and then overwhelmingly rejected it. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.480 It was a lot of parents, they cite parents. There 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:35.200 was a New York Times article I look that from 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:39.280 nineteen seventy four. Parents, parents were that upset. Now this 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.280 is not the only thing that was going on, but 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.360 robes if you are madgine, there's some place you talk about, 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.600 New York. We're here, Our sunrise is at what time? 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.400 Now it's or in the winter, it's a little before 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:50.320 seven maybe. 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.840 Yes, I actually don't know the exact date or exact time, 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.120 but it seems reasonable. I think for me. The only 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.720 thing that's shocking to me is how early the sun 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:00.680 sets here in New York during the winter. 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.840 Okay, but there are some places, a place like Cleveland, 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.920 that is, that experiences later sunrises than a lot of 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:09.880 places in the country far our west, in the Southwest, 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.480 they get earlier sunrises. But ropes, what if kids in 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.360 the winter are going to the bus stop pitch black 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.120 darkness and the sun doesn't come up until nine nine thirty. 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:18.640 That's tough. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:19.360 How does that feel? 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.600 That's tough? And look, I know there are countries that 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:26.480 deal with this certain parts of you know, Scotland and 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:31.680 all of these northern European countries. They get like incredibly 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.720 small windows of light and a lot of darkness, and 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.680 that is overwhelming. But you're choosing to live there in 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.920 that latitude, and you understand that that comes with the territory. 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.160 But I do think, yeah, that is tough to have 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.400 the sun not rise until nine am. I get that. 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.360 No, that's a legit push back. I get that for us, though, 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.360 Let's go eight eight thirty. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.080 Like Sabine goes to school Rope, she has to be 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.120 in the school by seven fifty. 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:55.720 I think it is. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.400 I get seven fifty to think for the next hour. 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.320 She's in pitch black darkness. Kids going to school through 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.159 the winter and every morning rush hour is in the 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.600 dark as if it's nighttime. That feels a little weird 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.440 and it might be a little dangerous. Oh that's the 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.840 time you got more people out and more kids out 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:13.679 walking the street. 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.359 That's legit that I do understand that argument. And it 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.240 is something where it sounds like a good idea until 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:24.000 it's actually put into practice, and then you realize the 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.359 reason why this system has been in place for as 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:28.159 long as it has. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:41.040 So what do proponents say, well. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:42.440 A lot of them say robes. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.560 There is a safety issue here having to do with 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:50.960 there's more light in the evening means less crime. If 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.800 you take away two hours of darkness, an hour of 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.600 darkness that's one or two hours, it fewer crimes are 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:57.160 going to take place. 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:57.840 Does that makes sense? 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:02.080 Absolutely? Do that makes sense? Yes, when it's dark, yes, 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.439 you might be more inclined to do something that you 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:06.800 hope nobody will see. 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:11.000 Also on the safety front, car accidents, but they focus 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.880 on the afternoon and evening, the evening rush hour. There's 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:18.199 more light in the evening, so you can have fewer 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.560 car accidents as people are making their way home. 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:21.359 Does that make sense? 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.000 Absolutely? Get that. 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.879 They throw out energy savings as well, and they also 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.320 say there's more family time at the end of the day. 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.040 There's more time for people to spend time together. 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:31.320 Yeah. 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.240 People, I think when it gets dark, you wind down, 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.480 you might go to bed early, you might just kind 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.720 of go into your own private spaces because you feel 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:41.200 like you're you're just it's cavernous, you're denning, you're kind 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.239 of in your own space. I get that far. If 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.920