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Speaker 3: It's the final bonus hour of the drive here on

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Speaker 3: a different.

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Speaker 4: Day on campus.

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Speaker 3: Yes, practice was moved inside close to the public. Not

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Speaker 3: the excitement that we were hoping for. But we've got

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Speaker 3: all of you on the tweets. We've been having some

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Speaker 3: fun here with a I guess a lot of different

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Speaker 3: topics of conversation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, We've had to go a lot of different directions. Right,

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Speaker 5: I've enjoyed our sack chat that was that.

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Speaker 3: Was fun, kind of some of that Boswell stuff and

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Speaker 3: replacing your quarterback and running back and wide receivers. And

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Speaker 3: now we're just.

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Speaker 5: Kind of kind of had like a mentor big brother,

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Speaker 5: great uncle or uncle moment watching you looking at sacks

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Speaker 5: per drop back or sacks per game, and they're like, Oh,

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Speaker 5: this stuff's kind of fun.

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Speaker 4: Listen, I tell you this.

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Speaker 3: I've said this on air before, but like I just

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Speaker 3: being around people like tounching Wolf and Max like Motes,

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Speaker 3: like yourself, like Dale, like I've I've learned more about

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Speaker 3: football just being around you guys, just through Osmosis and U.

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Speaker 4: And I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure too. Frank tweets us and says, do you

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Speaker 3: guys think Cornell Stewart will one day get into the Steelers'

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Speaker 3: Hall of Honor? He was such a great contributor and

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Speaker 3: a fun part of the history of the team. He

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Speaker 3: would be amazing in this era of the NFL. What

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Speaker 3: say you? That second part is that, I mean he

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Speaker 3: would have been the first overall pick in last year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think it's safe to say he

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Speaker 5: was ahead of his time, clearly, you know, like that

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Speaker 5: player wasn't much different than Michael Vick, who seems like

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Speaker 5: a long time ago. And vic was first overall pick

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Speaker 5: and still Stewart was a second rounder and people were

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Speaker 5: too critical of his passing because the legs can make

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Speaker 5: up four times a thousand and blah blah blah. I

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Speaker 5: leaned towards no though, and I'm glad you brought it

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Speaker 5: up recently or now, because the Hall of Honor stuff

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Speaker 5: is so recent on my mind. And there's only six voters,

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Speaker 5: and I think Labs laid out who they are. He's

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Speaker 5: one of them and quite an honor. That's pretty cool

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Speaker 5: and just kind of Labs didn't directly say this, or

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Speaker 5: none of the guys I know that are on the

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Speaker 5: committee directly said this, but I think the bar's awfully high.

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Speaker 3: It's very high, yeah.

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Speaker 5: You know. I mean it was easy to put the

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Speaker 5: huge group in initially because there's so many great ones

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Speaker 5: and if you're a Hall of Famer, you're in. But

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Speaker 5: the fact that they put three guys in this year

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Speaker 5: when it's off, and I think all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: And there were some pretty good candidates that didn't make

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Speaker 5: been my next one, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's we went through some of those names. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like the castro Goes in before Stewart. I think someone

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I do think Stewart is a

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Speaker 5: really exciting, interesting, noteworthy member of Steelers.

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Speaker 3: The word fun is a perfect example. He's unique, he's fun,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was fun to watch.

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Speaker 5: He's I could see why people love him. But I

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Speaker 5: would bet no, I bet he never becomes a member

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough. Just think about this too.

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Speaker 3: We mentioned all those people, kind of the backlog of

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Speaker 3: ready for some breaking news. T J. Watt's going to

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Speaker 5: So he's Miller, He's okay. I was taking to somebody

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Speaker 5: Does that matter. I know it does not matter. So

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Speaker 5: every hall of Fame is different. And if you don't

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Speaker 5: know this, it's not the NFL Hall of Fame, it's

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Speaker 5: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, correct, Not that that

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Speaker 5: is even consequential because they don't put Canadian football players,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. If there's a Mexican league,

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Speaker 5: that right, But the baseball from what I understand, character

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Speaker 5: and off the field stuff is a requirement.

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Speaker 2: Sure Pete Rose isn't in.

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Speaker 3: I think for and Ring of Honors even more so.

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Speaker 5: That's what I was thinking, But I don't know that answer.

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Speaker 3: You remember all the Gruden stuff, like like five or

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Speaker 3: six or seven years ago, when all those emails with

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Speaker 3: John Gruden, Tampa Bay took them out of their Ring

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Speaker 4: Yes, now they just put him back in this past year.

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Speaker 3: But like for that kind, you are going to have

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Speaker 3: to invite this guy to halftime of a game and

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Speaker 5: He's in your stadium.

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Speaker 3: Have sixty thousand people cheer for the guy at halftime

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Speaker 3: when his name gets not in a generic building, and like,

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Speaker 3: fact that that's not where Antonio Brown is at right now. Sure,

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Speaker 5: But the Pro Football Hall of Fame supposedly does not

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Speaker 2: It's just on the field accomplishments. That would be crazy.

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Speaker 5: I think it doesn't hurt some guys or make it

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Speaker 5: slower for their pride like.

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Speaker 3: A it's absolutely the reason why they made to wait

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Speaker 2: I do That's where I was going this too.

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Speaker 5: I think a hall of honor, a ring of honor,

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys Hall of Fame, whatever, is going to stress

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Speaker 5: that stuff a ton totally.

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Speaker 3: You know, totally.

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Speaker 4: But that's a good question.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting.

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Speaker 2: But man, there are a lot of them coming up, though.

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Speaker 3: A lot of them coming up in a a in

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Speaker 3: a plethora of deserving candidates. Nate tweets us and says

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Speaker 3: two things. Should we let Nate get two questions in Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 3: first is why do you guys think when Marik Cooper

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Speaker 4: You did just kind of touch on this.

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Speaker 5: He's interesting though, because there's more to this story than

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Speaker 5: I went into.

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Speaker 2: So weirdly, it was a weird year for him.

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Speaker 5: If you watch his Brown's tape, which is terrible quarterback play,

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Speaker 5: they see the same thing, an expiring contract. That's a

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Speaker 5: for a couple months. He gets hurt early in one

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Speaker 5: The total Opson happens with the Browns. Terrible quarterback play,

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Speaker 5: still looming? Is that the guy he is at this point,

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Speaker 5: He's had kind of an odd career. He's changed a

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Speaker 5: a Brown. I don't know if that's even a thing

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Speaker 5: maybe he thinks he's a ten million dollar player and

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. He also doesn't play a special team.

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Speaker 4: Exactly right, exactly right. I think that all makes sense.

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Speaker 2: But he'll be an NFL player.

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Speaker 3: He will be on a roster come the end of August.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe this one.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, he might be on a roster

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Speaker 3: by the time you and I get off air. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. But yeah, then maybe this one.

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Speaker 3: Well the other time, they're just waiting to try and

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Speaker 5: And I think that's even true for the safety of

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Speaker 5: Steelers assigned from the Jets. I mean, he was Clark Kye.

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Speaker 5: You know, you recover from your injury. First you mentioned

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Second one from native is you know you think

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Speaker 3: of great secondaries over the years that get nicknames like

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Speaker 3: no Fly Zone of the Legion of Boom. Does this

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Speaker 5: Hmmm?

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Speaker 2: Seems to be asking a lot.

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Speaker 3: That seems to be a pretty high bar to clear.

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Speaker 3: I mean, a Legion of Boom and some of these

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Speaker 3: great all time Super Bowl champion winning units.

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Speaker 5: My hunch is if this defense gets any kind of nickname,

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Speaker 5: it's because of the sacks in the front too. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you're almost already competing with your teammates for the.

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Speaker 3: The best use of the team, the bragging rights type.

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Speaker 2: Of thing, right.

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Speaker 5: I do think that it's one of, if not the

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Speaker 5: best corner back rooms in the league though.

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Speaker 3: And that'll be good enough.

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Speaker 2: I'll take that.

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Speaker 3: I'll take that, Take that all day long. I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: totally with you. Uh how about this cr Steelers Nation Chicago.

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Speaker 3: He's on Twitter now, man, how about that? He says, uh,

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Speaker 3: good morning or good afternoon, my Steeler brothers from other mothers.

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Speaker 3: I want to know. So far, one offensive and one

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Speaker 3: defensive rookie that has caught your unexpected attention. Also, you

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Speaker 3: two are sounding great together like McDonald's I'm loving it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 3: You are offensive and defensive rookie that have caught your attention.

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Speaker 3: And don't say Derek Harmon.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I know that's so low hanging and he has though.

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Speaker 4: How about uh jj gallbreath on offense?

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Speaker 5: How okay if you really want to dig okay, cool made.

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Speaker 3: Some play Dante Kent on defense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good one, trying to go with not like, let's

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Speaker 5: not do Harmon. And they didn't have a second round pick.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot less single high Minca was so

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Speaker 5: Yes, I mean we had a huge s Yes, coming

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Speaker 4: Mean, but that's where they need. That's the difference.

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Speaker 3: If you got any more questions for Matt and I,

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Speaker 3: Final hour. Couple segments left here penultimate segment, this one.

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Speaker 3: As the rain clouds have been driven away here beautiful day.

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Speaker 3: But with it being a quiet day today on campus

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Speaker 6: Say, Man, another really good day of work, just beat

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Speaker 3: Like Eckles had an interception today, Speak to the energy

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Speaker 6: We got to be cooperative workers in terms of our

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Speaker 5: and getting ready for that next step.

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Speaker 6: There's no doubt. Man, they're like race horses. That's just

443
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Speaker 6: the next step in this thing, and they're ready.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a most anticipated matchup, whether it's in

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Speaker 3: those backs on backers or earline D line one on ones?

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Speaker 6: You know, I like I like Kenny g Uh versus

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Speaker 6: Peyton Wilson in and routes. You know, Kenny g is

448
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Speaker 6: a really good aptitude from a route running standpoint out

449
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Speaker 6: of the backfield. Peyton Wilson in the second years, a

450
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Speaker 6: guy that that's working to be dominating in area. Uh,

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Speaker 6: it's just one of those matchups that has my attention.

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Speaker 3: The coach reference to your running backs.

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Speaker 7: Of course, we know what Warren can do in addition

454
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Speaker 7: to the rookie Johnson, but what about a kenneck gang well,

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Speaker 7: and even a trade sermon.

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Speaker 6: You know, Kenny is is experienced and versatile. That's why

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Speaker 6: we acquired him not only as a runner but also

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Speaker 6: as a kick returner in the special teams game. I

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Speaker 6: know less about trade, certainly, I know his college resume.

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Speaker 6: He's a highly conditioned and ready guy. He's a professional

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Speaker 6: in terms of his approach to business, So I'm excited

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Speaker 6: about seeing what he brings next week as well.

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Speaker 3: We were able to talk to Chuck Park today for

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Speaker 3: the first time. Just what does he add to this group?

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Speaker 3: And also, I mean he's gone off the plane and

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Speaker 3: went street to practice on Thursday. Does that impress you

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Speaker 3: at all?

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Speaker 6: Been really impressive with his ability to digest schematics in

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Speaker 6: a short period of time and execute defense. But I'm

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Speaker 6: not completely surprised by it because we've competed against him

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Speaker 6: over the years, and I just know he has a

472
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Speaker 6: reputation of a really solid professional. I think he's displayed

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Speaker 6: that the short period of time he's been here.

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Speaker 5: Like, can you learn much about Derek Harmon from.

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Speaker 7: These four days or do you really need to get

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Speaker 7: the pads on to have any kind of sense of

477
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Speaker 7: where he is?

478
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Speaker 6: Community Brook the year the Big Man Game is played

479
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Speaker 6: in PADS, and I'm looking forward to seeing him and

480
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Speaker 6: others under those circumstances. Not to discount what he's done,

481
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Speaker 6: but that's such a major component of his job description.

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Speaker 7: Kayle's talked about improving on his receiving a bil in

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Speaker 7: pastoral since the since he was drafted into rookie meet camp.

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Speaker 3: How have you seen him kind of embraced that challenge

485
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Speaker 3: and shrive to improve.

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Speaker 2: On those areas.

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Speaker 6: Man, He's a willing worker, but you know he needs

488
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Speaker 6: to improve in all areas all young people do. We've

489
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Speaker 6: yet to play in PADS, and obviously regarding his position,

490
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Speaker 6: that's a major component. And so it's an incomplete body

491
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Speaker 6: of work, but it's an incomplete body of work for

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Speaker 6: all of us at this juncture. And so next week

493
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Speaker 6: is big in terms of some of those things. Blitz

494
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Speaker 6: pick up is something that's really evaluated in PADS. Certainly

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Speaker 6: he's been working to develop and hone his technique, but

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Speaker 6: but the physicality component of something is something that that's

497
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Speaker 6: very difficult to simulate.

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Speaker 3: Like Tomlin there speaking and kind of putting a bow

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Speaker 3: on the acclamation period for the Steelers and Matt Unfortunately,

500
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Speaker 3: a lot of those questions, a lot of that process

501
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Speaker 3: is still incomplete.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, today would have been nice to take step one

503
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Speaker 5: and going that way, but that's not the way it's

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Speaker 5: going to be. I'd like to he said about you know,

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Speaker 5: r at the end there. You know, the big man's

506
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Speaker 5: job descriptions are in pads. You know, their evaluations are

507
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Speaker 5: in pads. But he also didn't say, oh, Harmon's got

508
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Speaker 5: a lot of work to do either. You know, like

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Speaker 5: Carmon looks really good. Oh his get off and his

510
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Speaker 5: length and all this stuff, and his hand usage and

511
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Speaker 5: disruptive and in Oregon he had you know, we're talking

512
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Speaker 5: sacks and pressures before. I mean he had the most

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Speaker 5: pressures in the country. You have an interior d lineman

514
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Speaker 5: and just really a disruptive player. And I don't think

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Speaker 5: they need him to play seventy snaps.

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Speaker 3: You know, No, I don't either, And I think you're

517
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Speaker 3: absolutely right. Or maybe it's even a his workload at

518
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Speaker 3: the beginning of the season starts off a little bit lighter, yeah,

519
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Speaker 3: to hopefully, you know, not hit that rookie wall and

520
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Speaker 3: be ready in December. And but yeah, they they there's

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of guys that we rightfully sew as

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Speaker 3: always are going to have circled and really want to

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Speaker 3: keep an eye on tomorrow again.

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Speaker 4: Like I was joking with you, we'll be doing like

525
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Speaker 4: the tennis match thing, like our head.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, lying back and forth, trying to trying to

527
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Speaker 3: follow the ball across court like you do at a

528
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Speaker 3: tennis match.

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Speaker 4: But he he's on that shortlist, Derek Harb.

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Speaker 3: Guys like Wya Black as well too, obviously Broderick Jones,

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Speaker 3: who if you missed it as well. Mike Tomlins said,

532
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Speaker 3: told some of the reporters that that I forget what

533
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Speaker 3: the exact line was, but they expects Broderick Jones to to,

534
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Speaker 3: you know, to be back at practice.

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Speaker 4: There's a very good chance that you yeah, no, without

536
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Speaker 4: a doubt, without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: Interesting news that I saw here right as we were

538
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Speaker 3: coming back into this segment, Matt, and that is that

539
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Speaker 3: the Ravens have hired longtime NFL referee Tony mccallich to

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Speaker 3: work with the team and to help out with rules,

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Speaker 3: implant rules interpretations, part of me and penalty explanations and prevention.

542
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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills did this and hired John Perry, another former

543
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Speaker 3: NFL referee. These guys come in, they spend training camp,

544
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Speaker 3: uh the entirety with the team and are able to

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Speaker 3: uh to hang around. And that's an interesting type of consultant,

546
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Speaker 3: you know, end of career, like have those guys of practices,

547
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Speaker 3: have those guys and meetings. Here's how that would have

548
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Speaker 3: probably been adjudicated. Here's what's legal, Here's what isn't. Here's

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Speaker 3: what I see from my referee standpoint. It's an interesting

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Speaker 3: one to me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think everyone knows this. But there will

552
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Speaker 5: be NFL refs here at different times too, and that's

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Speaker 5: true for all thirty two teams. You can bring in

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Speaker 5: NFL refs to help you out, and I think that's very,

555
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Speaker 5: very valuable. And they will also have conversations with the

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Speaker 5: coaches and players about rule changes from year to year

557
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Speaker 5: as well as well as emphasis, which I find interesting too,

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Speaker 5: Like we're going to emphasize holding more this year.

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Speaker 2: It just means we're.

560
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Speaker 5: Gonna throw a lot more, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: or whatever it is, or yeah, just don't do it

562
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Speaker 5: as much. So I think that's cool in itself. I

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Speaker 5: give the Ravens credit. They are very forward thinking with

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Speaker 5: their staff. They have a huge staff. They have a

565
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Speaker 5: very in depth analytics staff, They hired two people that

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Speaker 5: were analytics people off Twitter a year or two ago,

567
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Speaker 5: you know, that weren't really even with the team or

568
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Speaker 5: anything like that. They just liked all the Twitter stuff

569
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Speaker 5: they were doing, brought them into their analytics department. So

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Speaker 5: they really don't leave any stone unturned. But I also

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Speaker 5: wonder too, how many hours a week? Not that it

572
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Speaker 5: matters to me or to them, probably, but this new hire,

573
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Speaker 5: is he going to be in there all the time?

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Speaker 2: What do you do all day?

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean, Like practice for a couple of

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Speaker 3: hours and then maybe go to the film session, or.

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Speaker 2: We have three meetings a week with you, and I

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Speaker 2: want you at every practice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not always an interesting conversation me too, is Boy,

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Speaker 5: the NFL will be so much better off if they're

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Speaker 5: all their refs were full time guys. Some of these

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Speaker 5: dudes are lawyers and accountants and whatever. And then they

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Speaker 5: ref on the weekends and I'm like, yeah, that probably

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Speaker 5: would help in some way, shape or form, But what

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Speaker 5: are they doing on Tuesday afternoon of week twelve? Sure

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Speaker 5: you know it's studying tape?

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Speaker 2: Gonna make you that much better of a guy of

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Speaker 2: a ref? On Sunday. You know, I don't know, I

590
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Speaker 2: don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Right, there's a there's lawyer or whatever, you know, and

592
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Speaker 3: that's what a lot of them do, things like that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, and there's obviously stuff that they can work

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Speaker 3: on like anybody in their course. That's where I'm always

595
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Speaker 3: like the the the pie in the sky idea of

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Speaker 3: make NFL referees full time employees and all these different things.

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Speaker 3: Like on the surface, totally sure, it's a billion.

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Speaker 5: Dollar league, get the best of money, right, but it's.

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Speaker 3: Not what do you want these guys to to do

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Speaker 3: all year?

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Speaker 2: What's there? Yeah, what's their work week look like? And

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Speaker 2: what do they do?

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Speaker 3: And they have to sit down commissioner and here's the

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Speaker 3: call you got wrong in the second quarter of right three,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Doesn't seem there's there's no perfect, easy

606
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Speaker 3: solution or else. Sure it would have.

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Speaker 5: Been done a really hard job. But it is interesting

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Speaker 5: the Ravens are hiring a full time dude.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Bills have as well too.

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Speaker 3: And again, what that looks like during the regular season,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure, But at least in this training camp,

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Speaker 3: Porshit of have these guys around his resource. I guess. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, there's no salary cap on that those type

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Speaker 3: of things you can.

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Speaker 5: Do, so analytics department or coaching staffs, all those things.

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Speaker 3: You know, if it blows up in their face and

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Speaker 3: they don't think it really gave them much of an advantage,

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Speaker 3: hey thanks, we don't need your help next year, one

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Speaker 3: time experiment type thing.

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Speaker 5: And I do think having massive coaching staffs though, aren't

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Speaker 5: what they're cracked up.

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Speaker 2: To be either.

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Speaker 4: I don't need I think there's a fine balance there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you can get a couple of extra coaches

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Speaker 3: here and there, a couple extra scouts here, and they're great,

626
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Speaker 3: but you don't need seven offensive analysts and right specialists.

627
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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, there's almost that, like too many cooks in the.

628
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Speaker 2: Kitchen about to say the same thing.

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Speaker 5: It's like everybody has their own jobs, and yeah, they

630
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Speaker 5: already break down the responsibilities you're break down all the

631
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Speaker 5: third down stuff, you know, break down all the red

632
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Speaker 5: zone stuff, you know, break.

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Speaker 3: Up all the hurd it's all very well delegated.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you could definitely have too few, but

635
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Speaker 5: I think you have too many too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I agree, like too many chiefs, not enough Indians, right,

637
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Speaker 3: whatever the old slaying is too many, too many cooks

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Speaker 3: in the kitchen. But yes, certainly just something interesting I

639
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Speaker 3: saw popping across the timeline there to talk about for

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Speaker 3: a minute. We've got to get to our last break

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Speaker 3: on before we get out of here as well. Plenty

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Speaker 3: Final segment here of the drive today on a quiet

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Speaker 3: day at Saint Vincent College. Hopefully tomorrow, though we'll make

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Speaker 3: up for it with an intense and a physical practice

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Speaker 3: and a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah really it's quiet to do quiet by the go.

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Speaker 3: That's from Shrek, I think. But yeah, we will be

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Speaker 3: looking forward to tomorrow certainly, and uh luckily a lot

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Speaker 3: of kind of fun milestones this week, including that Friday

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Speaker 3: night lights practice on right, so as much as.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow'll jumping tomorrow, so it'll be a fun.

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Speaker 3: Start, fun rest of the week. That's a great call.

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Speaker 3: False start on today, but we'll get back and we'll

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Speaker 3: stay ahead of the sticks the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Before we close with around the League and some tweets here, Matt.

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Speaker 3: Interesting article on NFL dot com caught my eye. That

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Speaker 3: was just posted biggest challenge for all thirty two NFL teams, right, okay,

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Speaker 3: so I had to click on it. Of course. For

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Speaker 3: the Steelers, biggest challenge is listed as betting on Aaron Rodgers. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I realized that that that's, without a doubt a foregone conclusion.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be there. But I wouldn't say that

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Speaker 3: that's the biggest challenge, not even close.

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Speaker 5: Right, And again, it's not that big a bet, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Like betting on Kenny Pickett was a bigger bet.

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Speaker 2: That's a first round pick bet, right, right right.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's a very logical, give it a year,

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Speaker 5: see what happens type of thing. Can you reclaim superstardom

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Speaker 5: or any version of that at a pretty discounted rate,

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Speaker 5: didn't even cost you a draft pick.

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Speaker 2: I'm out on that. Where would you go with it?

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Speaker 5: I mean, to me, it's probably like winning a playoff game.

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Speaker 3: To me, biggest challenge might be a healthy offensive line,

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Speaker 3: Like winning a playoff game is the answer, but I'm

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Speaker 3: looking at something tangible.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the way you're looking at keeping the offensive.

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Speaker 3: Line healthy to me, is a bigger challenge than betting

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Speaker 3: on Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 5: I think that's a good way of putting at it too, Like, hey,

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Speaker 5: Dylan Cook and the Andersons might be okay, but I

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Speaker 5: don't want to find out.

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Speaker 3: Biggest challenge getting back to leading the league in sacks,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Stuff like that, stuff like that, getting better yards per carry,

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Speaker 5: starting games faster.

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Speaker 2: Things like that.

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Speaker 3: Things that are starting games faster is a real one.

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Speaker 3: How about a couple of first drive opening drive touchdowns, defense,

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Speaker 3: play with the lead.

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Speaker 2: Go into the second quarter with the lead once in

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Speaker 2: a while, you know, things like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was funny for me.

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Speaker 3: The one for the Ravens was replacing Justin Tucker, which

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Speaker 3: I think is fair, But it is fair. It says

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Speaker 3: a lot about where you're at as a team. If

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Speaker 3: your biggest challenge is replacing the kicker, it's the pretty

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Speaker 3: good biggest challenge.

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Speaker 5: I always like to put ourselves in other team shoes.

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Speaker 5: If Pursuda and all these dudes that are down there

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Speaker 5: asking questions, we're in Ravens camp. Is it going to

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Speaker 5: be like they asking a ton of kicker questions? More

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Speaker 5: than here, of course, but still no much about so

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Speaker 5: you can only talk about kickers for so long.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what are you gonna do with Kyle Hamilton this year?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I like things like that. I think are obviously more pertinent.

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Speaker 3: And speaking of the Baltimore Ravens, Matt Isaiah likely injured

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Speaker 3: in practice and according to head coach John Harbaugh, likely

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Speaker 3: is likely out a few weeks with an ankle injury man.

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Speaker 5: That's that's big because he's really an ascending player, comes

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Speaker 5: from a small school Coastal Carolina, and it's kind of

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Speaker 5: been overshadowed.

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Speaker 2: As to tears really young, as not his prime.

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Speaker 5: Andrews has been, you know, a really really good player

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Speaker 5: for them too, but there was rumors he could have

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Speaker 5: got traded this year. He could be his last year

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Speaker 5: as a Raven as well. I think Likely's a very

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Speaker 5: important guy for them. I think they were number one

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Speaker 5: in the league in twelve personnel. Two tight ends, you know,

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Speaker 5: and that's the backbone of it. He's more of the

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Speaker 5: field stretcher guy. That's a blow.

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Speaker 4: It's a big blow.

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Speaker 3: He's an important player for them and an ascending player

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Speaker 3: for them certainly. Yeah, you'll laugh at this. All the

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Speaker 3: news articles on Isaiah Likely. What we were laughing about yesterday,

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Speaker 3: Isaiah likely carted off field. Of course, Isaiah likely carted

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Speaker 3: off field with apparent injury at end of practice. They're

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Speaker 3: all carted off during the training camp, no matter how

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Speaker 3: serious or unserious the injury is potential serious injury. Matt

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Speaker 3: Brown's cornerback Martin Emerson Junior suffering an achilles injury in

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Speaker 3: today's practice. He still has to obviously undergo you know,

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Speaker 3: official yet or anything, right, imaging and scans and all

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Speaker 3: that stuff. With the expectation is it's a significant tear

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Speaker 3: and if that's the case, likely to miss the season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that's you hate to see that for anybody, no doubt. Now,

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Speaker 5: expectations this year are not high in Cleveland to win

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Speaker 5: a ton of games, sure, but they're still going to try,

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Speaker 5: believe it or not. Everyone's gonna roll out there and

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Speaker 5: give it their all. And they have three really good

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Speaker 5: corners and he's one of them, Ward's the best, Newsome

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Speaker 5: and Emerson and they use them well and they take

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Speaker 5: guys in a slot. And my point is I think

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Speaker 5: they're counting on a Miles Garrett led defense to keep

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Speaker 5: them competitive as much as possible. And the corners are

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Speaker 5: also a strength of the team while they figure out

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Speaker 5: a lot of issues on offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the Judkins thing down there.

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Speaker 4: It's like one area where they you know, might feel

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Speaker 4: kind of confidence.

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Speaker 5: Right spots and now there, Yeah, that's how that's how

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Speaker 5: I should have started it, said to begin with, like

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Speaker 5: it's one of the few spots you felt pretty good

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Speaker 5: about and now you don't now.

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Speaker 3: You've potentially lost the guy for the entire year. It's

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Speaker 3: only still July. Uh. We discussed Saturday or Sunday whenever.

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Speaker 3: It was the record setting offensive lineman contract for Shaun Slater.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Out there with the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Another offensive tackle getting some big money today of the

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts, Bernard Raymond is getting a four year, hundred

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Speaker 3: million dollar extension.

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Speaker 5: Interesting player too, because he's I think he's from Denmark

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Speaker 5: or Norway. I mean he's he didn't grow up playing

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Speaker 5: football like everybody else, and so he had a weird

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Speaker 5: path to the league, went to a smaller central Central

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Speaker 5: Michigan and had a lot of ability. But he's one

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Speaker 5: of these guys that is a project. And we talked

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Speaker 5: about that in a round draft time all the time.

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Speaker 5: He's a projecting. Not always a bad thing, right, But

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Speaker 5: what was weird about him being a project was he

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Speaker 5: was an old project. Young projects. It's like, wow, we

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Speaker 5: got extra time, will develop them, right, Like he.

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Speaker 4: Went to the Army and like, you're not You're not

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Speaker 4: a spring chicken anymore.

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Speaker 5: So if he's two years younger, he might have gone

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Speaker 5: in the first round, early second. You know, tackles always

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Speaker 5: go high but he had two things. He needs time

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Speaker 5: and he doesn't have time. Well, they made it work.

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Speaker 5: He's been extremely good for them. I mean he's a

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Speaker 5: top ten type player at his position too that he

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Speaker 5: wouldn't give credit for and has really turned it on

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Speaker 5: the last.

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Speaker 2: Three or sixty five days or so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and good for him.

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Speaker 2: Success story, right.

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Speaker 3: Success story absolutely absolutely getting rid of it or getting

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Speaker 3: or deserving it exactly. Sorry, yeah, they didn't deserving it.

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Speaker 3: Also looks like the Detroit Lions might have found their

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Speaker 3: Frank Ragnow replacement or who will They will try to

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Speaker 3: task with replacing one of the better centers in the

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Speaker 3: National Football League. Graham Glasgow has moved from guard until center.

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Speaker 3: According to Frank Ragnow, he's the one who's gonna kind

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Speaker 3: of get the first crack at it. How big of

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Speaker 3: a like a because again, center is it's not a tackle, right,

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Speaker 3: But he's also he's a veteran, he's one of the

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Speaker 3: best at his craft. They are a team that is

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Speaker 3: hoping that they're still in that super Bowl window? How

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Speaker 3: important is that for Detroit?

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Speaker 2: Huge just the way they're built.

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Speaker 5: Because they also lost Zeitler, who's been a really solid

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Speaker 5: starting guard too. They lost two of the better interior

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Speaker 5: linemen of the last ten years.

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Speaker 3: That's a blow.

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Speaker 5: Now, that's a blow, no question about it. Now they've

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Speaker 5: been reinforcing that position. They drafted two interior linemen this year.

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Speaker 5: They drafted Mahogany out of Boston College a year ago

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Speaker 5: who needed a year, and they have Glass now as well.

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Speaker 5: Glass noow has been a starting guard for them. He

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Speaker 5: does have a center background in the league. The thing

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Speaker 5: is you're moving two spots then, I mean you're taking

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Speaker 5: the starting guard and then so then you'd have three

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Speaker 5: new starters on the interior if he becomes your center

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Speaker 5: from where you were last year. The Mahogany kid, he's

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Speaker 5: in the second year from Boston College, played some center

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Speaker 5: at Boston College. Ratledge, who they drafted out of Georgia,

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Speaker 5: has not, but he probably is the highest upside. Like

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Speaker 5: if you're trying to get Frank Ragnow level play, which

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Speaker 5: they won't, but if they can simulate the best of possible,

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Speaker 5: the second round pick is probably your most.

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Speaker 2: Likely guy to achieve that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know their scheme well enough of how center

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Speaker 5: dependent are they to do special things from that position.

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Speaker 5: Do they have to have it or can they live

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Speaker 5: with glass. Now who has the highest floor of the group.

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Speaker 5: That's still a big revolving door. Like we talked about

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Speaker 5: beat reporters. I bet that's all they talked about. It

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Speaker 5: a ton of totally totally all these guys shuffling on

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Speaker 5: the interior because it used to be I know where

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Speaker 5: eybody's at and it's really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was a strength for for the Lions,

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Speaker 3: and no team that has been been very good over

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Speaker 3: the last couple of years. That now obviously they are

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Speaker 3: tasked with with replacing or at least retooling to very

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Speaker 3: tough test, no doubt, especially when again you kind of

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Speaker 3: feel like like this is our time, like we gotta

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Speaker 3: get it done. We've been knocking on the door. If

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Speaker 3: we're going to kick the thing in, it's going to

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Speaker 3: be now. And then you lose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the window closes quick.

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Speaker 3: It closes very quickly.

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Speaker 2: Just lost two coordinators, you know, right.

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Speaker 4: Two coordinators, two starting offensive linemen.

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Speaker 3: It happens fast. Although getting Aiden Hutchinson back will be

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Speaker 3: that's a boost.

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Speaker 5: And they were extremely injured on defense down the stretch,

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Speaker 5: and that's at least you get the start from scratch there.

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Speaker 3: Injury wise, last one of the day here, Annie will

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Speaker 3: be the caboose and close us down with this tweet.

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Speaker 3: Annie wants to know what the Steelers use more middle

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Speaker 3: of the field this year than on offense.

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Speaker 4: Seems like we've been talking about that for a while.

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Speaker 2: I assume.

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Speaker 5: So, I mean, it's definitely an Arthur Smith thing.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 5: It's not Wilson thing, not really a fields thing. Rogers

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Speaker 5: though through the middle of field less than you would think,

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Speaker 5: a little bit less than he had in his prime.

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Speaker 5: So it's yes, it's gonna spike. I don't think it's

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Speaker 5: gonna like lead the league.

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Speaker 3: And all the sun gonna be right over the middle

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Speaker 3: all the time.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, if you're doing three tight ends on

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Speaker 2: the field a lot, the answer is yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, yeah, and and and that makes sense. All right,

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Speaker 3: here's your red meat news, mister Williamson. Before we get

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Speaker 3: out of here, you were joking about how we all

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Speaker 3: hall the Hall of Fame game. The Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: Game is coming up about two days from now, just

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Speaker 3: a little over forty eight hours. Hall of Fame Game.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready?

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Speaker 4: Trey Lance will start a quarterback for the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: Of all, I knew it wasn't gonna be Herbert. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's at least see somebody. You're kind of interesting, right.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, kind of his last last chance oasis

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Speaker 3: here to stick on the league.

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Speaker 4: They're playing the Lions. I think right, I believe I

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Speaker 4: think so. I believe so so Trey Lance will be

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Speaker 4: your starting.

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Speaker 5: Gates going in. Usually you have a player going in

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Speaker 5: or there's a reason you get the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly right.

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Speaker 5: I mean I'll watch the first series of Lance or whatever,

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Speaker 5: but again that is an underwhelming exhibition.

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Speaker 3: Uh, what's so we Yeah, you're right, we'll probably watched

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Speaker 3: the first series. It'll be on it, it'll be on

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Speaker 3: a chart whatever.

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Speaker 4: Established yea, yes, absolutely agree.

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Speaker 3: I also tell you this, though, there's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: lot of people like our buddy Mike Persuda that have

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Speaker 3: a football gambling itch that they've been waiting to scu

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Speaker 3: once and months, and these Sikos are going to bet

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Speaker 3: on a preseason game with Trey Lance starting under some maat.

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Speaker 2: I know people play preseason fantasy.

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Speaker 5: Oh lord, I will.

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Speaker 3: Say one eight hundred, seek help.

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Speaker 5: I do think there is money to be made though

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Speaker 5: in not necessarily preseason fantasy, but like over under props

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Speaker 5: in preseason if you know the team, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean, Like, if you know Howard's gonna play a

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Speaker 5: ton I think he will, for example.

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Speaker 4: And the books are saying like we're gonna have twenty

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Speaker 4: two yards.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you know a team really well, you might

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Speaker 5: be able to kind of mind some things that way.

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Speaker 3: That'll pre season, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And maybe we'll talk

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Speaker 3: a little bit more about that as we get closer

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Speaker 3: that first preseason game coming up on Thursday night out

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Speaker 3: in Canton.

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Speaker 4: But that will do it for Matt and I.

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Speaker 3: Today, as always, some thank yous today, I guess actually

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Speaker 3: we just have to thank our buddy Justin back at

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Speaker 3: the ranch right for producing this thing. For right, I

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Speaker 3: don't think we had any guesses or anything. Everybody vanished

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Speaker 3: on just Matt and just Matt and I. Justin's still

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Speaker 3: here hanging with us. He's been putting the marathon shifts

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Speaker 3: in every single day, and for that we are grateful.

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Speaker 3: We will have another one of those marathon days tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: ten a m. Eastern Standard time. You're live coverage starts

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Speaker 3: here on Steelers Nation Radio up through five o'clock, where

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Speaker 3: Matt and I are hopeful fingers crossed knocking on wood

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Speaker 3: that we are finally going to get that first padded

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Speaker 3: practice tomorrow if mother nature allows, and looking at it

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Speaker 3: over the last hour or so looks pretty good and

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Speaker 3: hopefully that will not change For Matt Williamson. I'm West Shuler.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening, everybody, take care. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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