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This is Drinks Chip right aw. 0:00:55.960 --> 0:01:04.800 Every day is New Year's e Round, Green Hopeing South 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.640 is Your Boy and his DJ and his Drink Chance 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:17.320 motherfucker podcast, and I have to introduce our guests right now. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.480 He's one of the most innovative peoples of the culture. 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.280 He has stood on the front line from the beginning. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:30.560 He has signed was arguably the greatest artists of all times. 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:36.560 Company after company, you know, endeavor after endeavor. This man 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.480 has stood there. He has danced, he has smiled. He 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.000 even makes jokes about himself sometimes. I've seen him introducing 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.080 nas and he said, yep, I'll still be all up 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.520 in the videos. I thought that was amazing that he 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:52.400 can laugh at himself because what he's doing, his dope ship. 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:57.360 He's been a inspiration for me personally to see a 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:03.160 black man take the world by by his way and 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:07.200 doing it his way and being successful at it. I'm 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:17.160 proud to introduce my friend. Yeah, thank you, thank you. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:22.519 Did he puff daddy? I'm na. I'm gonna give you 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.079 so many different flavors for the interview. You know, this 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:30.000 is an important interview, you know, Yeah, it's monumental. This 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.240 is this is the debut interview. You know, we're gonna 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:34.680 let the cat out of the bag and make the 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.320 announcement off the get go. You know what I'm saying. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:47.240 We just signed drink Chance. Yeah. Yeah, So this is 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:51.600 world from men, Yes, World, It's a celebration, celebration. Do 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.160 want some champagne to got? We got some cold man? 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.520 You know, I'm gonna go check this out. We're gonna 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.640 I could really drink in anything. You understand, I'm not 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:05.280 I gonna go from Hennessey to to killer Champagne to whatever. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.320 You're saying you a drink chance, you're just getting to 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.520 the man you're saying you're a drink man. Man, I'm 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:18.160 legend dary out here. Anybody whoever, I'll drink you. Um. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.560 I never really had drink competitions, but you know what 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.120 I'm saying in my mind, not, I mean, not not 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.959 as you know, not as long I'm kind of consistent. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.120 So you know, you have people out of do they 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.840 they quit whatever whatever, and then then you know, and 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:35.160 then they rocked. I'm just consistently, you know, consistently the 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:41.040 apple pouring and enjoying. You gotta pour and enjoy and 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.360 I consistently do that, you know, you know, sometimes for 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:49.480 like three days straight straight straight straight. All right, Oh 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.440 you can't got your shout? All right? Cool? This is 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.240 how we do it. Out of Yeah, you gotta meet it. 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:56.680 We gotta mean and we take a shot to the 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:00.840 drink chance. All right, now solute and now only welcome 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:02.840 up to a vault, but welcome you to the drink 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:10.680 Chang little new maino. You all gotta try it. That's good. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:16.360 It was good, yeah, man, in trouble drinking Shampool? Can 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:17.960 you tell a girl to make me a nast? Because 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.640 I'm married, I don't want to directly ask her, you 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.440 know what I mean. Now I'm with this guy, Shampool, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.240 you know Shampool the Street team. Yeah, what up? Shampoo? 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:31.080 Tam Pool? So so so Diddy, how did you What 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:32.640 was that moment where you was like, I got the 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.360 greatest rapper all time? Man? When I heard this demo? 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.640 If you yeah, yeah, if you go online, you can 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:44.000 find this demo. Um before y you heard it? No, 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.520 I heard it. I saw unsigned Height and that's that's 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.039 when I called Maddie see the missus C and I, 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.200 you know, tracked down the demo from just the explanation 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.320 of what I heard, you know, And his look was 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.279 so disruptive, you know, it's a good way to explain 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:02.480 he he felt. He felt like Miles Davis to me, 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:04.520 you know what I'm saying. When I when I had 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.159 first saw him, but it was like it was. It 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:11.680 was a vibrational attraction that was dead. Like I knew, 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:15.080 I like store up to stare at the picture, you 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.520 know what I'm saying, for like maybe six days, you 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:22.200 know what I'm saying after the music time, no, no, 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.520 before I even got the demos, just a picture in 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.839 itself was giving me this strong vibration that I knew 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:34.320 that whatever this guy was saying, like you know, it 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.520 was it was something that was It was something that 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.039 was really really really really authentic, just about the look 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.400 in his eyes, you know. And then when I heard 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.080 the music, you know, it was one of those things 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.040 I merely called my girl and I was like, Yo, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:50.720 you gotta you gotta tell me if this is as 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:55.600 hot as great as I really believe it is. You know, 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.400 she heard it. She was like like, wherever he's at, 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.760 you better go at him, you know what I'm saying. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.440 And now that was that's interesting that you said you 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:09.600 called your girl. Yeah, because women are the biggest consumers 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.839 of music, without a doubt. So how how did you 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:15.760 know that? Early on? Um? Because everything I did was 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:20.960 for girls, My whole swag, my whole you know, um 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:27.359 musically dancing, I started dancing because you know, I like, really, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.919 I really trust women's opinions, and I like the vibration. 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.919 And you know, I've always just loved women that really 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.760 were into music, you know, that knew how to dance 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.800 and was in the music. I can't even relate to 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:44.080 somebody it's not into music. So you know, um, you know, 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.400 I had a girl that was really into music and 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.000 and I really trusted her judgment. So it was something 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:55.640 that something that you know, when it's something crazy and 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.240 you got a girl that's like that. On that same waveleft, 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.200 she said that about Big Pride to see Yes just 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.320 on the demo, just on yeah, yeah, the demo is crazy. 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.240 Demo is some of his best works. None of those 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.760 tracks made it out from now. I mean, he just 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.280 he was just freestyling over some beats. So it wasn't 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.280 you know, it wasn't that time where you could just 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.040 rap on somebody's beat. He was. He was like kind 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.400 of the first to do that. I mean second when 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.040 you know, you did the jacket for beats, but he 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.360 didn't in another way, but when he went and rapped 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.880 before ready to die on all the l A beats, 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.240 you know what I'm saying. Before that It wasn't like 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.480 people were getting on people's tracks what I'm saying. So, 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:33.400 so how did you guys started incorporating like the R 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.680 and B s, the R and B tracks, like the 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.400 Juicy's and all that. Because I can listen to the 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.320 biggest demo and I can tell that that was directly 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.239 um uhh, what was my favorite record by the way, Juicy. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.920 But but how do you go about convincing a hardcore 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:53.280 artists like big Um to that this commercial this commercial 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.240 success is something that he needs. It really wasn't a 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.880 lot of convincing. I was like, yo, if you want 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:03.280 to you know, if you want to be big and 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.200 you know, first of all, when we did party in Bullshit, 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.760 he he didn't didn't know how to write a song. 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.240 So you know, you know, just like most rappers, you 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.240 know what I'm saying, Everything was like sixty bars and everything. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.480 And then so you know, once you know, I kind 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.560 of broke down the whole song structure. To him, he 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.200 was like a genius. So he didn't he would take 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:27.000 it and then and and and he just really was 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:32.480 strong on making songs. He would have didn't write wraps down. Um. 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:36.439 That was that was the second year yeah, yeah, this 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.520 breaking news. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah, 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.440 the first year he would write him down. By the 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.120 second year, you know, he was just sit in the 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.360 room and he wouldn't say nothing for like maybe two 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.160 or three days and go in and just do it 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.920 from head to toe. No punching in, nothing like that. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:59.520 Maybe a couple of times, you know, let's yeah. But 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.800 as far as the as far as the big records, 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.320 you know, going after the Juicy and the Big Papa 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:06.640 with the Ozazi brothers, it was just it was a 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.320 vibe that I was in that I had. I had 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.480 already seen work to a certain degree, and I knew 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.120 with Mobi and Premier we had the harder edge tracks, 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.559 and I knew that there was just this opportunity, um 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.560 because even you know, the West Coast was doing in 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.400 their way that their style of sampling more commercial type 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.240 of hits. But I knew that these joints right here, 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.520 these were the things that I I grew up to 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.080 in halland when I used to have to do my 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.240 chores in the morning, these records was really really deep, 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.440 like sheet to me, you know what I'm saying, And 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:41.480 and just having that juicy sample and in the Big 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.679 Papa joint and then the One More Chance. I had 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:47.240 all that at the same time, so you know, I 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.920 knew he wanted to be fly and I told him like, 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.840 this is the road to the flyingness. You're just gonna 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.440 be really dusty and be doing videos behind like in 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.480 Abandoned Building it and he was like, I want to 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.440 be flying. He always wanted to just have made sure 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:06.880 his gear was flyer than somebody that was slimmer. Now 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:11.480 that One More Chance remix, like in the Streets album 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:15.760 was already a phenomenon. We already knew where Big was going. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:21.679 But then y'all One More Chance remix and the video 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:26.000 like how like what what the fund did you thinking 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.199 to say? Like what was it? Because because I believe 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:30.720 he was gold at the time, was that to like 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:32.480 the record that you wanted to take it over to 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:36.880 the platinum or yeah? Yeah, you know, um as a producer, 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:40.120 I get here giving me the you know, the confidence. 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.040 So you know, when you really believe in everything's great 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.719 and you're in that frequency, you know, that's what you're attracting. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.720 And I attracted that sample and I was like this 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.559 one right here, this is this right this right here, scary. 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.719 You know, it was scary, you know because it was 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:59.600 a true record for the ladies. And not only that, 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.640 it felt like I felt like you and Big perfected 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:08.640 feeding the streets and feeding the radio. Yeah, like at 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.160 the same time you had who shot you that all 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.400 the streets? You know what I'm saying. I gravitated towards that. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.560 But you're killing the radio, Like who did was that? You? 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.360 Who developed a strategy of feed the streets and a 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.400 balance that you know it was it was more of 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.600 a respect thing of of of I knew what he 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.640 wanted to do and if we were going to have 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.440 this like partnership on making music and he was going 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.440 to follow me down the road to making some of 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.800 these bigger records, and you know, then I would follow 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.480 him down the road to um, you know, making more 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.199 the hardcore records. There's only one line that I had 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.120 made him change or just record that he went too 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:49.520 far for me, you need. I think he talked about 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.160 raping Mary or something like that. Yeah, it was crazy 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.520 and I just I just I just couldn't do it. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:12:00.240 And he respected dreams of y No, this is this 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.920 is just a free style. Because that eventually came out 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.960 through now it's kind of um like set that standard 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:07.960 when he said when I was twelve, I went to 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.960 help us nothing Jesus so all artists was trying to 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.800 say something disrespectful like still clever. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.200 but yea yeah yeah but that yeah, that was the 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.160 only thing that we had started to have a discussion 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.600 about certain responsibilities. He didn't really give a funk. But 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.400 at the same time he was he was kind of 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:30.800 a big one. Yeah, but over the bridge that yeah, 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:35.080 he said he whatever he said was like from from 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:39.440 a standpoint of lyricism, it was yeah, it wasn't from 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.640 this it was it wasn't the shock value like yeah yeah, 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:47.720 like value. Yeah. He seemed like on the first album 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.959 that it felt like West Coast influenced him a lot, 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:52.880 Like that's the way I felt as a listening Yeah, 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.720 really not at all. Yeah, because there were some samples 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.360 that they sampled a lot of some of the West 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.840 Coast records and some of the yeah yeah yeah it's 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.120 far me sam Blan. I was definitely influenced by the 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.720 chronic They're even Ready to Die that whole, So that 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.080 not him, Yeah, yeah, that was me that because I 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.240 was I heard the chronic, and I just really became 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.199 obsessed with how they were able to make it sound 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.360 like it was actually you actually got into a low 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.920 ride and comfy. So I wanted ready to die to 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.160 feel like you was, you know, in Brooklyn and from 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:23.360 New York and so you know, Dre definitely inspired me. 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.239 You know on that one, What you enjoyed more producing 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.840 or being in the front like as an artist yourself. 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.240 I really enjoyed producing the most, you know, because because 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.600 I really, um, you know, my lane is really to 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.120 be the platform. You know, I've been blessed to be 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.280 an artist, and I truly appreciate and think thank everybody 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.760 for let me slide in and and you know and 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.120 get that off. Was it Big who suggested you should 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:53.640 be an artist? Yeah? Yeah, And the super Cat record 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.720 was the first time you run and now I was 0:13:55.800 --> 0:14:00.600 on on because the first time I heard only Get Money, 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.760 Yeah it's a super cap. I was supposed to be 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:05.719 Only Get Money remakes, but I was just like, I 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.800 just froze up a little bit again, Yeah, because I 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.480 wasn't really believing all the way and the record was 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.319 so fucking it was so hard and so crazy, So 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:19.200 you know, so that's why Caesars on that joint, But 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:20.840 it was supposed to be you, Yeah, it was supposed 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.400 to be me. And then but then, you know, when 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.520 I got with Jesse West, we were like similar type 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.600 of cats, like a little bit shy in the sense 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.200 of you know, but still once we got into our artistry, 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:35.360 it was boisterous, but you know, understanding how to ease 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.360 into it. And that super cat thing was really wavy, 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.040 you know what I'm saying. So it was really it 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.280 was more in my lane than the other joint like 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.000 funck bitches get money. But what was your dream? What 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.160 was your dream? First? Was it being a producer or 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.640 being an art on um? It was just being in 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.480 the record business on stage and some capacity. I started 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:55.920 as a background dancer. I want to see a Run 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:00.240 dm C concert and Run held up his sneakers and 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.480 when he did that, and I saw everybody hold him 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.000 up all around the arena like I could relate to that, 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.080 I was like I didn't. There's a way for me 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.640 to be able to get you know, to to to 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.320 be able to live out this crazy dream that was 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.440 in my head, like yo, I could wrap and oh 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.680 I could really produce. It was it was it was 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:23.640 in me. But when I saw actually saw the power 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:28.760 of running what he had and how he was wanted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.400 that's when I wanted to be the be an artist. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:34.720 And then I would say like fifteen not even fifteen 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:39.520 years later, like yeah, like ten years later, Like I 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.400 remember I was coming. I sold out the garden three times, 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.400 three nights in a row, and I was I would 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.080 come from them from the ceiling and so I would 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.400 be like kind of staged up there, and I remember 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.080 the seat that I was sitting, and I looked at 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.560 the seat that I was sitting from the run DMC 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.320 concert when I came up with the dreams. So he 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:00.040 has a tennis ball from Cares one from Night of 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:05.600 Years every definitely. So let's get to this line, because 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:09.480 this is everybody we have some water or something. No water, 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.760 water to tell me crazy? You got your own people, 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:20.600 I told me forgot. I mean you got water, we 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:25.600 just got but we got aqua hydrated and I got, like, 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:29.200 who the alcohol day that water? You guys? Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.760 So I gotta get to this line because it's like 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.960 you shut all your haters up and you said it 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:42.600 don't matter if I'm like Yeah, why was it important 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.320 for you to say that? It wasn't really important for 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.040 me to say that. I wasn't really getting like a 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.440 whole lot of flak. I never came in the game 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.760 acting like I didn't have ghostwriters. I treated myself like 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.680 I was Whitney Houston. I was looking at Whitney Houston. 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:57.760 I was like, it's something about it. She has some talent. 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.960 You know, this is a talent that don't have. In 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:07.480 my mind, my thing is to um make make the 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.320 best and the biggest record, no matter somebody else writes. 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:14.280 It produces the beveratives. I just wanted to make the 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.560 dopest records to make people dance feel good, you know, 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.680 feel fly. You know, it makes me, It makes something 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:26.440 that was fashion. All your hats down. It was like 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.200 you ain't an avoiding it. So yeah yeah, oh yeah, 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.399 but all my popping ship. Can't nobody pop shit like 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:39.719 me because because anything I'm saying, it's something something. Yeah, 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.880 you know, all my ship is truth that I say. 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.359 You know what I'm saying. Anything that I'm saying is truth. 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.720 And when you know it's got aquaha Drake, look at that, man, 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.160 I go, I gotta I gotta upbreak, my life got 0:17:52.960 --> 0:18:00.359 right there you with us now everything that. Yeah, So 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.640 throughout all these years, the best thing, you know, um, 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.120 one thing you said to me, you said nor every 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.280 time I see you were always smiling. And I've really 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.400 like thought back, I've been in the game since nineteen 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:20.600 nineties six late nine seven, and every time I've seen you, 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:24.760 you always smile. How do you do? Because I really 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.000 just have I don't have no hate for people. I 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.119 don't have no envia jealousy for people. So like you know, 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.880 my smile is is when I see people, it's real 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:37.960 and it's genuine, and I'm fans of everybody. You know 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.600 what I'm saying. I can find something really great in 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.639 in anybody. That's the way like I see things, and 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.320 so naturally that's my thing unless I'm in a little 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:47.840 bit of a funk, you know what I'm saying, because 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.840 I'm like like tripolar, you know what I'm saying, So 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:58.399 not even your yeah what I mean. So you know whatever, 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.119 whatever you're seeing is what you get, and you know 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:01.760 what I'm saying. But it's all coming from a place 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.240 of love, you know, And I admire that about you. 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.040 And another thing that I admire about you that I 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:12.040 don't feel nobody gives you the judge do is? I 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:15.119 came over your house yesterday. I was eating I was 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:19.160 about fifteen minutes away. James Cruz hit me and said, 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.320 come to the career. But hey, Ali, excuse me. So 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:25.240 I went to the career real quick. And you have 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.680 your mom's there, you have your sons there, and I'm 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.560 gonna tell you something. Your son, you raised your son 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.879 so excellent. Like both of them came up to me 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.399 and said, nor were you good? You need anything? You 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.280 want to ride the jet skis? And it was amazing 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:47.560 to me because I'm like, damn, Like if if my 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:54.359 father was Pop Daddy, I would be all I'll be insane. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.359 But these these kids came up to me. What we're respected? 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:04.280 First off, you under twenty one, the generation nowadays under 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.119 twenty one is the most disrespectful generation. Efforts. All right, 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.840 let's just keep it real. They hate old niggers. Are 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:11.359 you gonna take another shot? This is a shot. You're 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.720 gonna do a drink? You know how much I'm doing shots. 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:17.399 We got girl with home were blowing up. We got 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.200 girls to pull that for us. It's cool, cool, cool. First, 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:23.480 ain't gonna kid. I ain't gonna lie. Sometimes I like 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.440 to just pull my own You like the boy, I 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:30.560 like being, I like being. You know what do it? 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:34.640 Let's do Let's do it. We open it up dot. 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.440 You know what I'm saying. It's gluten free all. You 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:38.880 know what I'm saying. There was one that high shed 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:40.920 all these pounds. You know this is the Drink Champs 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:45.200 Drink on Blue Dot with Selsa Water my shot free 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.920 ya listen, just pulling my shot. I made it. You 0:20:50.000 --> 0:21:02.399 gotta get love. I told you show. We're partners. Now 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.440 welcome to play a new podcast network featuring radio and 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:21.080 TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:25.600 it at Play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:29.080 Radio with Rapper and R and d j f N. 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:36.520 So we valla, let's get to a vall. Why did 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:38.920 you feel like you wanted to start your own ship? 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:43.520 You're stubborn nickel. You said, fuck it, let stop my 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:46.800 own ship. They weren't playing your videos enough. No no, no, 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.359 that's like you want to bring back MTV style, like 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:52.800 where we needed music videos. Now I'm gonna be honest 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:57.280 with y'all, like the story of of me would revote 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:01.920 was that, you know, MTV really gave me the network. 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:04.280 You know, there was a time between MTV and v 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:06.760 H one that you know, I had the number one 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:10.200 to three. So yeah, yeah, seven. They showed me a 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.600 lot of love. So they taught me the game. And 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:15.520 so when they started going into like things like Team 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:19.359 Mom and you know, more reality based thing, which I 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:22.719 don't knock them for any of it. Yeah, because they 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:25.240 had got so big, they needed to generate certain ratings. 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:27.879 If you have a network, you don't generate certain ratings, 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.600 then you know, you get kicked off, you know, and 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:34.639 so hold on like that I got, I got man. 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:45.680 Now he ain't even pacing ourselves. Yeah okay, yeah so 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:49.840 so yeah, So basically MTV when I saw the door open, 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.760 I saw that, you know, after TRL, like you know, 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:57.080 the platform to support new artists and up and coming 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.639 artists and get people exposure. You know, had that you 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.080 know one or six in park you know, that went off, 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.560 and I was like, you know, we have so many 0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:08.600 so much creativity out here right now, you know, and 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.440 I'm going from this meter we phase and I'm getting 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:13.840