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Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver

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Speaker 1: Here we go Tuesday on Thanksgiving Week, We're live. We're

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Speaker 1: in Chicago. It's the Herd. One hour from now. The

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Speaker 1: Herd Hierarchy.

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Speaker 2: What are we.

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Speaker 1: Gonna do with oh Chicago Bears. Well, they made their

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Speaker 1: first appearance in the Herd Hierarchy. Great to have you

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Speaker 1: in today. You know, it was so fun because I've

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Speaker 1: brought Pretty us obviously awful last night, and in the

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Speaker 1: first half I thought, well, he had a toe injury,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, all right, I said it on my

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Speaker 1: podcast at the volume last night. I said, he's obviously

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Speaker 1: can't drive the ball. Every one of his interceptions was

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Speaker 1: behind the guy and they kind of hung in the air.

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Speaker 1: There was no zip on the ball. And Pretty came

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Speaker 1: out after the game and said it had nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with my toe. Oh so you were just awful

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Speaker 1: against Carolina that has no pass rush. Listen, we watch

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford on Sunday Night Football. That's a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famer mastery of the position. Big arm, pre snap, looks left,

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Speaker 1: fire's right. Last night you saw two average quarterbacks. One's

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Speaker 1: making a fortune and one wants to make a fortune.

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Speaker 1: Five picks total, multiple bad throws to open receivers. And remember,

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Speaker 1: the NFL's not baseball where we care about history. It's

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Speaker 1: not the NBA where style matters. The NFL. When you're

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, it's about your last twenty starts. It's about now,

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Speaker 1: last twenty starts. Matt Stafford brought pretty and Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford's forty three to five. That is an elite

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. Forty three touchdowns, five picks. Bryce Young at

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Speaker 1: least has a two to one touchdown to interception ratio

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of kids at wide receiver Brock Purty

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Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns, nineteen picks. And by the way, on Monday

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Speaker 1: Night Football, he presses because he wants to show everybody

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Speaker 1: in a standalone game, hey, I belong Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: In his career, five touchdowns, eleven picks, seventy five passer rating.

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Speaker 1: So I said in August, Rams are going to win

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Speaker 1: the division, best roster, Seattle's close, San Francisco third. In fact,

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Speaker 1: the only two things with the Diners this year that

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Speaker 1: have blown me away. Robert Sala deserves a head coaching job.

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Speaker 1: What he is doing without Warner, without Bosa, without Fungo's

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Speaker 1: now with Denver, I don't know they're doing it. It's

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Speaker 1: just kids. And I mean Bryce Youlling was great a

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Speaker 1: week ago, he was atrocious last night. So and Christian

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey is I mean, honestly, he should get paid overtime.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is the offense. But everybody keeps trying

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Speaker 1: to convince Colin you're tough on brock pretty No, no, you're

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Speaker 1: trying to convince me he's elite. If you'd stop doing that,

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Speaker 1: I'd stop talking about it. Well, he's smart, so was Aristotle.

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Speaker 1: I need elite quarterback traits, arm size, mobility like Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: It's not a franchise quarterback. He's a bridge quarterback. He's

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Speaker 1: not a backup. He's a bridge. But nobody's trying to

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Speaker 1: convince me he's an all timer. So so you guys

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Speaker 1: keep trying to convince me, Oh, this is what this

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Speaker 1: He was at an Iowa State and he was he

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Speaker 1: was healthy. It's kind of fun, and he moves pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Said it last week after the Arizona game. He moves

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Speaker 1: Once you make fifty three million a year, that's more

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Speaker 1: My eyes don't lie, yours don't either. Those three picks,

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Speaker 1: In fact, ask yourself this after the game. Listen to

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Speaker 3: More hesitant if they're all bad decisions and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was asked to that answer. He was asked

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Speaker 1: if Joe Burrow, Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar, Justin Herbert should

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Speaker 1: I'm not anti Rock Pretty. He's fine, but he's really inconsistent,

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Speaker 1: not good throwing downfield. That's all I'm saying. If you

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Speaker 1: then I'll stop talking about Okay, so I don't think

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Speaker 1: Senor Sanders is upper, but I want to talk about this.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be the starter for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine the rest of the way. I think

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Speaker 1: we've seen enough Dylan Gabriel so over the course of

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean when I watched him against the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel Sanders led the entire league this Sunday in

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Speaker 1: is you're not going to get rich in life. Investing

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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel is not even a four to oh one k.

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Speaker 1: He's that savings bond grandma gave you when you were nine. Like,

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Speaker 1: But I think in pro football locker rooms that kind

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Speaker 1: You got fifty five NFL bodies. I mean, Miles Garrett's

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Speaker 1: reaction to Shadeur Sanders is, oh, this is fun. We

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Speaker 1: And that's why I should start little goofy for my taste.

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Speaker 1: know what I couldn't figure out this. Rico Dowell is

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Speaker 1: Rico Dowdell six attempts? He's your Christian McCaffrey. I mean, Sam,

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Speaker 1: whatich you want about Kyle Shanahan. The entire offense drives

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Speaker 1: as good? I don't know, but Rico Dowdell is a really,

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Speaker 5: It was a wacky game, was it not? It just

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Speaker 5: fell all around like the pretty interceptions, and listen, I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna pull a you. Last week, you know, member Sam

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Speaker 5: Darnold threw four picks against the Rams and you're like,

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Speaker 5: I don't really care about interceptions. You're trying things.

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Speaker 1: Rock Perty was trying things last night. None of them worked. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he had a bad half. It was bad. You flush it,

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Speaker 5: I am worried, however, about this Browns game, because oh,

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Speaker 1: Home is nasty. Oh, let me just tell you right now.

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Speaker 1: I have revised what I said yesterday. Cleveland plus six

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Speaker 1: the bet of the weekend against the Niners on a

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Speaker 5: Remember a couple of years ago he went to Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Okay, listen, I gotta put the Bears in here. Eight

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Speaker 6: This is the game, and this is you know, say

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Speaker 1: Now, Ohio States got better personnel right now. But Underwood

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Speaker 1: The if Tate doesn't player Jeremiah Smith, both receivers are

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Speaker 6: these two young quarterbacks, I am very cautious. I am

426
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Speaker 6: playing field position football to start this thing and then

427
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Speaker 6: start to adapt. As usually after about the third or

428
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 6: fourth series callin, you're going to find out how they're

429
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Speaker 6: going to play you, because they don't drastically change. I

430
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 6: know people talk about halftime adjustments, but after series three,

431
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 6: you're going to know, as an offensive coach, exactly or

432
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 6: a good idea, how they're going to play you, and

433
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Speaker 6: then you can, you know, adjust your game plan.

434
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Speaker 1: So I watched the USC Michigan game, and it's hard

435
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Speaker 1: for me to unsee that Michigan has been much better since.

436
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Speaker 6: Why they were awful of that game. I can't unsee

437
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 6: that as well. As a matter of fact, I couldn't

438
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 6: see that for the other side, USC, I thought if

439
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 6: that team shows up, they could beat Oregon. And that

440
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 6: team did not show up, So I think, you know,

441
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 6: their schedule was a little bit softer after the USC game.

442
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 6: They did play, they did play well, but you know,

443
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 6: softer schedules tend to make you look better.

444
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Speaker 4: We're going to find out.

445
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Speaker 6: But I can't unsee what happened in Southern cal That

446
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 6: was a bad day for the Wolverines.

447
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Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of USC, Lincoln's zero to five

448
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: against top ten teams. In fairness, he did not take

449
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: over a good roster. It had about forty Division one guys.

450
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: He went heavy into nil, hitting a few, missing a lot.

451
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: My bigger issue is four years in, I don't like

452
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Speaker 1: the special teams and I don't trust the defense. I

453
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Speaker 1: don't think it's good enough. They also lacked kind of

454
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Speaker 1: a cultural identity Oklahoma Brett Venable has never been a

455
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Speaker 1: head coach. When I watched Oklahoma that, I'm like, Oh,

456
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Speaker 1: that's an SEC team. They are. They are physical and

457
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: they're fast. Are you disappointed where Lincoln is after four years?

458
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Speaker 4: I know Lincoln, I don't know him like this.

459
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Speaker 6: If I did, I'd probably go visit him and I'd say,

460
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 6: I know this is gonna be hard for you to do,

461
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 6: but give up the play because he's one of the

462
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 6: best play callers in college football, certainly in the last

463
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Speaker 6: recent history. But at some point when special teams and

464
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 6: defense aren't playing the par I know what Ryan day,

465
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 6: The Buck guys got better when they had when he

466
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 6: handed off the play calling duties because he can go

467
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 6: sit in defensive rooms Now he can go give his

468
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 6: expertise and special teams or and I it's not expertise,

469
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Speaker 6: it's just motivation.

470
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Speaker 4: I just don't know.

471
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Speaker 6: I'm trying to think the last time that a play

472
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Speaker 6: caller won a national championship, because I mean, it's rinse

473
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Speaker 6: and repeat with what he did at Oklahoma. Great offenses,

474
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 6: bad defenses, goes to usc great offenses, bad defenses, and

475
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 6: we thought, you know, they had it a little bit better.

476
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Speaker 6: But again, I just in today's day and age, I'm

477
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 6: not sure how a head coach doesn't spend half the

478
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Speaker 6: time over on the defensive side of the ball.

479
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Speaker 4: I don't don't. I don't understand that.

480
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: So I have defended Lane Kiffin. People say it's going

481
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: to tarnish his reputation if he leaves, and I'm like, well,

482
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: his reputation is he leaves and he's a great offensive coach.

483
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: That's what he is. That's why, that's why keeps getting

484
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: Nobody's giving him jobs because they think he's loyal, they

485
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: think he's great, he's a wizard offensively, and he recruits

486
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Speaker 1: the heck out of it. Well, let me ask you

487
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 1: put yourself in his position. I have said, stay at

488
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Speaker 1: Old Miss or go pro, go to Tennessee, don't bounce.

489
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't get involved with LSU. I know it's a

490
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: great job. The governor's involved. I don't like what they're

491
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: doing with Brian Kelly. I think Florida is a wonderful

492
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Speaker 1: place to coach. What would you do?

493
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Speaker 6: I've texted with Lane, I've talked to him, We've actually

494
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 6: become friends. I made this comment, I was, I'm proud

495
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 6: of the way he's gotten everything in order, and he

496
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 6: is a call He's always been a hell of an

497
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 6: offensive coach and now he's become a hell of a

498
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Speaker 6: head coach.

499
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Speaker 4: I had a similar situation.

500
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Speaker 6: I was at the University of you taw We went undefeated,

501
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 6: first school to break the BCS or small school to

502
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 6: break the BCS. And I left and I went to

503
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 6: Florida and that was just ripped your heart out.

504
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: I went back.

505
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 6: We coached the last game and the Festa Bowl we won.

506
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 6: This is unchartered waters though. To leave a team that

507
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 6: could potentially and you tell me other than Ohio State maybe,

508
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 6: and you have a and m Ohio State Indiana, I'm

509
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 6: telling you all missus right there. Yeah, and to be

510
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 6: able to walk that might haunt Lane the rest of

511
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Speaker 6: his You know, I'm just personally to how do you

512
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Speaker 6: walk in that meeting and say, hey, guys, I'm not

513
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 6: only leaving, I'm going to be playing you next year.

514
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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know. I mean, and I.

515
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 6: Don't believe at this point in his life. Money can't

516
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 6: be the deciding factor. Cannot There's no chance that he

517
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 6: would leave because a couple more million bucks. I would say,

518
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 6: there's no chance. There's got to be some other reason

519
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 6: if he does leave.

520
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you've never been I mean, I know you

521
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: a little. You're not a big money guy. That's not

522
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: what drives you ever. You're you're a very competitive guy.

523
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: But it doesn't drive. But you know, some of these

524
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: young guys they like that. Let us they want a

525
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: second car Urban. It does drive. I mean you've had coaches.

526
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Speaker 1: Have you ever had a coach in your staff or

527
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: two or that like the money thing? That the status

528
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: and the money. I mean, let's face it, LSU head coach.

529
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Speaker 1: That is a big Texas head coach, Ohio state head coach.

530
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: Those are big boy jobs now right, Ole miss is

531
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Speaker 1: a good job. LSU is different.

532
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

533
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Speaker 6: I heard Nick Saban say this with I think back

534
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 6: when recruiting was all about you know your history, your tradition,

535
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Speaker 6: you know your academics, maybe your opportunity to get you

536
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Speaker 6: the NFL. I'm thinking that's kind of gone now. Now

537
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 6: it's just how much can you pay? And so I

538
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 6: would imagine if Lane Kiffin left, there's some kind of

539
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Speaker 6: guarantees somewhere that he can basically do whatever he wants

540
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 6: as far as bringing players, because I can't imagine it's

541
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Speaker 6: another car, another house. I can't imagine that because I'd

542
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 6: stayed Ole miss in a minute. And they'll build a

543
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Speaker 6: statue if you go try to compete for a national

544
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 6: championship up and that's your legacy setton Stone. It's a

545
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 6: much different era, and I think Nick Saban said it.

546
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Speaker 6: So that used to be the deciding factor. I'm going

547
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 6: to go to LSU because you can go play for

548
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 6: national championship and they recruit better players. I'm not sure

549
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 6: that's the case anymore, because everyone's equal.

550
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go back to Ohio State Michigan. I like

551
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: Ryan Day. I've supported him, I've defended him. I think

552
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: he's a great coach. I also, I also I think

553
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: I may have even said this to him. I thought

554
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: he out fought the room last year. I thought he

555
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: had heard people were chirping in his ear for years.

556
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: You're getting pushed around by Michigan. You're getting pushed around

557
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: by Michigan. And he thought, I'm not letting them push

558
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: me around. And my take is, go in the game,

559
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: don't worry about of talk radio. I thought he overthought

560
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: the room last year and he got caught up in

561
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: like proving I can go play bulldozer football. Is that

562
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Speaker 1: a fair criticism of what happened last year?

563
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Speaker 4: I think it's fair.

564
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Speaker 6: I think also the defense did a phenomenal job. And

565
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 6: I'm talking about the Wolverines that they played a too

566
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 6: high structure against him and dared him to run the ball.

567
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 6: And a lot of times you go into a game

568
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 6: and there's a run pass checks. If it's a loaded box,

569
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 6: you pass. If it's an unloaded box, you run. And

570
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 6: Grian called me after that game. Coach Day called me

571
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Speaker 6: after the game. He's like a family member, obviously, coach

572
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 6: for me, and I remember said, what.

573
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Speaker 4: The hell happened?

574
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 6: And we talked for a while, and my responsibility as

575
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 6: a friend is to talk more about him and his

576
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 6: family than talking about what happened on second and six.

577
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 6: But they played into the teeth of the Wolverine defense,

578
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 6: those two first rounders inside. I was there with Big Noon,

579
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Speaker 6: and I mean, what happens is you screw around, you

580
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 6: screw around. That's my concern. In the sloppy game up

581
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Speaker 6: in ann Arbor and you wake up and you're in

582
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter and the game's close, and then someone

583
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 6: makes a drive like they did at the end and

584
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 6: you lose. So you know this is I do believe

585
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 6: that that filtered into it. I don't know if that

586
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 6: was the reason.

587
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 4: Why, though.

588
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Speaker 1: Do you miss coaching when you go to this game?

589
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm good. No, I don't miss this. I

590
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: miss wanning this thing.

591
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 6: That's it. I don't miss coaching it. I don't miss

592
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 6: preparing because I mean, you're telling Colin it's hard to breathe,

593
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 6: and people Ryan would understand.

594
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 4: I'm sure sureyl Moore understands.

595
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 6: It's when I say it's hard to breathe, it's hard

596
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 6: to breathe because that's how much this game means to

597
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 6: the state of Ohio and Ohio State.

598
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: You're probably that week of coaching, you're probably no fun

599
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: to be around. I bet your wife is like, what,

600
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go walk the dog. You're probably you're

601
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: probably that week a mess, were you?

602
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Speaker 4: Oh?

603
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had Thanksgiving that week and I would always

604
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 6: let the players go home and I'd put on that

605
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 6: face for like two hours in that leave. I'd go

606
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 6: in my office and go back to work and yeah,

607
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 6: I'd put on the smile face for and hug the

608
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 6: grandkids and everybody, and then oh, he's gone. It's time

609
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 6: to get ready for that game. Miserable until the w

610
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Speaker 6: That's great.

611
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean you never lost one. I mean you went

612
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: to seven and zero. That feels pretty good, right.

613
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 6: It feels really good right now, sitting here in Sarasota

614
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 6: feels really good.

615
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm up in Chicago. It doesn't feel that great. I'll

616
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: be honest. It's raining in cold. Okay. One more thing

617
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: is I one of the things about college football now

618
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Speaker 1: it's a little more like pro we're head to head matters,

619
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: but not as much. I've watched Notre Dame play six

620
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: times this year. I watched them lowse to Miami. I'm

621
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: watching them now. That is a football team that feels

622
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: like they're two touchdowns better. Now, maybe it's a competition thing.

623
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Speaker 1: But it's funny in the pros. I mean, the New

624
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: England Patriots got beat of the Raiders in Week one.

625
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: Now they could be the best team in pro football.

626
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: We understand players grow, they get better, but yet in

627
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: college they're eighteen and nineteen and we're like, no, whatever

628
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: you are at Labor Day, that's what you are to me.

629
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame feels like a totally different team or is

630
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: it just a competition?

631
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Speaker 6: I think it's Slash. I think there's certainly a better team.

632
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 6: I've watched them a bunch. I love their coach. I

633
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 6: watch him for a lot of reasons. Chris Ash worked

634
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 6: for me on defense. They didn't look very good at

635
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 6: the beginning. They look great. So does competition. Yeah, they

636
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 6: played uh and we called that, I mean the members

637
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 6: of our Big Noon and I think you might have

638
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 6: called it after week two, said they're going to be

639
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 6: in the playoffs and win the rest of them. When

640
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 6: you look at their schedule, they're better than everybody they played.

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Speaker 4: Regardless.

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Speaker 6: I think Jordan loves, maybe other than Jeremiah Smith, the most,

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Speaker 6: the best player in America. The guy's unbelievable and they're

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Speaker 6: playing at a high level both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 6: really high level.

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Speaker 1: He Jeremiah Love really isn't unbelievable. It was funny. I

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Speaker 1: was looking at a mock draft the.

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Speaker 4: Other Jared I think, I said, Jordan Jeremi, I love you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean he is Okay, all the running

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Speaker 1: backs you ever had, is Jeremiah Love as good as

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Speaker 1: any of them?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Zeke's my best one, and uh uh he's right

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Speaker 6: there with Zeke. He's phenomenal, balance, big, strong, fast, I

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Speaker 6: mean he's great.

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Speaker 1: He really is something else. There's about one running back

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Speaker 1: every two years you got to take in the first

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Speaker 1: SHROWND and I would have no problem taking him absolutely. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Urban big noon kickoff. Yeah, I think we got everything

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Speaker 1: covered here, buddy, great senior, good senior man