WEBVTT - LS Episode 475: Stone Cold Heart (Feat. Elaine)

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<v Speaker 1>What's Episolife service. I'm g G Maguire.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Geordie George. Hi, everyone, it's Elaine.

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<v Speaker 3>Was sweet Listen, don't let it for you, baby, I

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<v Speaker 3>know it's not so sweet.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Why Stone cold Heart?

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<v Speaker 5>Stone Cold Heart is a title that I came up

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<v Speaker 5>with this year, actually earlier this year, and it came

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<v Speaker 5>after I was just going through so much in my life.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I feel like being nice sometimes, especially in

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<v Speaker 5>the industry, there's like a very thin line between being

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<v Speaker 5>a people's person and like being a people pleaser, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>And I think it came from a place of no

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<v Speaker 5>longer just wanting to please people, and it does take

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<v Speaker 5>away from like a person like myself who's always like

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<v Speaker 5>you know, thinking with their hearts and like so giving.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes you gotta have a stone cold heart or no

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<v Speaker 5>heart and just you know, my over hearts. So it

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<v Speaker 5>was sort of like coming from that place of having

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<v Speaker 5>to sort of restrict myself because I love to love

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<v Speaker 5>so freely, but being in a place where sometimes I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like you have to love strategically and it's so

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<v Speaker 5>it's so odd to me, but I guess necessary, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's what I'm figuring out on the album and sort

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<v Speaker 5>of like trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To you gotta adspen.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to adjust, I have to adjust.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I can't necessarily think with my heart or put

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<v Speaker 5>people before me.

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<v Speaker 1>That sucks that you can't think, like move with your

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<v Speaker 1>heart because you can't trust everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't.

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<v Speaker 6>Was there a specific situation that made you be like,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe I need to address things differently going forward.

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<v Speaker 5>I think so many, so many situations. I think the

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<v Speaker 5>last straw, which wasn't even a big deal, but I think,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, when it's like a snowball effect, the one

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<v Speaker 5>thing that gets you to like your breaking point is

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<v Speaker 5>not always like the most intense thing, but it's at

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<v Speaker 5>that time. So I think it's when I decided to

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<v Speaker 5>go independent, you know, and then you start to see

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<v Speaker 5>the back and forth, and then you start to see

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of things that you weren't exposed to before.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I want to dig into this, Okay, So let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Ela for a second. You're from South Africa, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>South Africa. And you started off as an independent artist, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you signed to Columbia Columbia Records, right to

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<v Speaker 1>Columbia Records. But then you went back to being independent.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, recently, about a year ago. I know that decision.

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<v Speaker 5>It was more of like a business decision for myself.

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<v Speaker 5>I think being a South African artist, we're at such

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<v Speaker 5>an interesting place in our lives and our careers and

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<v Speaker 5>just as a country. You know, we're breaking so many barriers.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got so much global attention and global lab tyler,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like the girls, TEMs, all of them. The

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<v Speaker 5>girls are doing so amazing. So I think in the

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<v Speaker 5>same breath, there's also like a lot of figuring out

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<v Speaker 5>that's going on behind the scene from both parties, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>parties that are trying to cross over and people that

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<v Speaker 5>are trying to help, you know, connecting the dots. There's

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<v Speaker 5>still a lot of like maneuvering.

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<v Speaker 1>You did well before you sign though I do it

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<v Speaker 1>pretty lit already. Did you think that signing to a

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<v Speaker 1>major label was going to make things like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is about to be easier for me? We got like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't, Yes, I don't. I don't think I thought

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<v Speaker 5>it was going to be easier. I think it was

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<v Speaker 5>more so about the platform and the structure, the machine.

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<v Speaker 2>The machine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you not have to do so much, even.

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<v Speaker 5>Not doing things independently. I don't know much of what

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<v Speaker 5>gets done on.

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<v Speaker 2>An international level. You know. I did what I could locally,

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<v Speaker 2>but internationally it's such a different boardgame.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, let's go kind of like go to that

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<v Speaker 1>next level.

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<v Speaker 2>So then we're exactly And then it was a pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you signed during a pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>I signed. I literally signed like via zoom.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was crazy. It was like the pandemic. And

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<v Speaker 5>I was a full law student at the time as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you read your own contract or did you

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<v Speaker 1>have a lawyer?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I had a lawyer. Did you figure this out,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>had I had a lawyer. There were a few lawyers.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was a really lengthy process. It was exciting,

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<v Speaker 5>and that happened, and then it was a pandemic. So

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<v Speaker 5>obviously I was stuck in South Africa for some time

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<v Speaker 5>and it was a scary time for everyone for the world,

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<v Speaker 5>so I had to stay put for some time. And

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<v Speaker 5>then I was quarantining in Mexico for some time.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the.

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<v Speaker 2>Craziest thing ever.

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<v Speaker 5>While living into I was not living quarantining.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. It sounds like you guys were doing island living.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not. I was not on the island living.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that I.

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<v Speaker 4>Had the time to quarantine.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, it wasn't that in Mexico because that was

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<v Speaker 5>the only way that I could get to the US

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<v Speaker 5>during the pandemic from South Africa. There had to be

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<v Speaker 5>a point where I stopped to quarantine.

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<v Speaker 4>So quarantine Mexico fourteen days.

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<v Speaker 2>It was longer than that.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was thirty days, yes, because of yes,

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<v Speaker 5>But what was it like on the day to day, writing, praying,

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<v Speaker 5>speaking to my family on FaceTime?

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<v Speaker 2>I was by myself. It was really just connecting. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was young. I was like twenty twenty one. No,

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<v Speaker 2>in Mexico, I was scared. I don't want to meet anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wondering, like to meet myself and I yeah, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no no.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have anybody like appointed to help you.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 5>It was really like you were like at a resort

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<v Speaker 5>or yes, I was at a hotel. Yes, I was

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<v Speaker 5>out of hotel, everything everything, and when it is, I way.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, nobody while you were at the resort, like people.

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<v Speaker 5>Like love interest now oh sorry, I always thinking I'm

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<v Speaker 5>always thinking, Hell, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't have a fling.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't have a fling.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't a fling in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 5>No no, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I was doing there.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. It was really a crazy time. And I

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<v Speaker 5>was there for I think the thirty days, and then

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<v Speaker 5>I moved to LA and I got there and it

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<v Speaker 5>was amazing. I got to make amazing music, music which

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<v Speaker 5>is on Stone. Some of it is on Stone Cold Heart,

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<v Speaker 5>some of it isn't. And I was finding myself early twenties,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think for the first I stayed in LA

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<v Speaker 5>for two years, and for the first nine months I

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't able to go home because of the pandemic. Store

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<v Speaker 5>there was still restrictions, the visa issues and everything, so

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<v Speaker 5>I was stuck.

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<v Speaker 2>For a minute, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And during that time, I'm celebrating birthdays on FaceTime. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>celebrating Christmas on FaceTime, Easter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>So there was like a shift in me in my

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<v Speaker 5>mental health. And I think that and just being so

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<v Speaker 5>young but being so passionate, you know, it's always like

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<v Speaker 5>a tug of war. And I think eventually, when the

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<v Speaker 5>music was done and it was time to sort of

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<v Speaker 5>figure out a way to put it out. I was

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<v Speaker 5>already sort of feeling like it's not the right structure.

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<v Speaker 2>For me personally, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I felt like I needed maybe more people who understood me,

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<v Speaker 5>or who understood the sound, or just needed to try again,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. And yeah, that's when I just decided that

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<v Speaker 5>I was going to put out the album by myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, how was.

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<v Speaker 1>It to get off the label though? Because I would

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<v Speaker 1>think that they weren't going to be willing to just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I don't know how this works, but to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, all right, good luck. Do you think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you get out of it?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>My goodness?

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<v Speaker 5>It was not easy, but it wasn't impossible, which is

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<v Speaker 5>what I appreciate because I feel like there's so many

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<v Speaker 5>situations that I've seen have so many artists who get

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<v Speaker 5>in but can't necessarily get out of the deals, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was lucky enough. It wasn't even like a

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<v Speaker 5>terrible dealer, was a licensing deal, so like from the bats,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think it was that technical for me to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to get out, But there was like the

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<v Speaker 5>emotional side to it, you know, they always going to

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<v Speaker 5>try when I, you know, talk to you figure some

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<v Speaker 5>things out. But I think eventually we got to a

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<v Speaker 5>place where we mutually felt like, you know, my goals

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<v Speaker 5>and there's just for the time being, just not necessarily

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<v Speaker 5>on the same page for now, and that's okay. I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like, even where I'm at now, I'm not necessarily

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<v Speaker 5>saying I'm closed off to the idea of major labels.

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<v Speaker 5>I might be, you know, interested in revisiting the conversation

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<v Speaker 5>maybe in the near future, you know, finding a bit

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<v Speaker 5>of STI.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was even signing during the pandemic zoom, then going

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<v Speaker 1>to America for thirty days, then moving to LA That's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot your first deal, you know, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't so easy to be able to promote, to link

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<v Speaker 1>up with other people. That's not easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it wasn't easy.

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<v Speaker 5>And by the time, you know, I finally met the people,

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<v Speaker 5>because there's actual people at the label, you know that

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<v Speaker 5>you need to meet in real life, and you guys

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<v Speaker 5>need to find the flow. It was so many moving

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<v Speaker 5>pieces that we had to sort of put together, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we tried, and we have beautiful music out of it.

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<v Speaker 5>And it wasn't all a terrible experience, not at all.

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<v Speaker 5>I learned so much and I've grown so much, and

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<v Speaker 5>the resources that I got out of it are still

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<v Speaker 5>till this day, life changing.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be fine, we got Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So I'm grateful. I'm so grateful for that experience,

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<v Speaker 5>and I feel like it set me up for every

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<v Speaker 5>other experience that I'm here to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's talk about personal experiences in that case. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because the way this album starts off was Brandy sample.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love Brandy.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the ultimate breakup song. I remember breaking up

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody was playing that song and being like, Dann,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel sad. Shit. So I gotta know for you,

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<v Speaker 1>what were you feeling like, because that's a real emotion.

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<v Speaker 7>Right there, long as lonely hearted, like what happened?

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<v Speaker 8>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my goodness, broken hearted as bit. It feels crazy

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<v Speaker 5>saying it out loud because it's so different when you're

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<v Speaker 5>writing about it and you're alone in the right.

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<v Speaker 1>Broken heart today, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>And I since, Yeah, you know, I'm still sins even

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<v Speaker 5>when I'm angry. But I think at that time I

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<v Speaker 5>was really angry. During that time, I had just moved

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<v Speaker 5>from I'm over it now. If it was me like

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<v Speaker 5>two years ago, I'll be like, let's go now, I'll

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<v Speaker 5>do it location.

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<v Speaker 4>We love.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I was moving to.

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<v Speaker 5>L A during the time, right and there was someone

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<v Speaker 5>that I was seeing at the time and we were

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<v Speaker 5>on and off, and by the time I was moving

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<v Speaker 5>to l A, I was just like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think this is gonna work.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool off of this.

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<v Speaker 5>So remember from me deciding that I'm moving to me

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<v Speaker 5>actually being able to physically get on the plane and

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<v Speaker 5>leave was so much of back and forth and trying

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<v Speaker 5>to find a new flight and canceling the flight because

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<v Speaker 5>of the pandemic. So I'd be like, I'm leaving next

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<v Speaker 5>week and then something comes up and then I can't leave.

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<v Speaker 5>So from the time that I had announced to the

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<v Speaker 5>people in my family and to the people that were

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<v Speaker 5>close to me versus the time that I actually left,

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<v Speaker 5>there's like a month in between that space. So as

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<v Speaker 5>we're doing this back and forth with me, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>adjusting to me moving, I decided that I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>ace this person that had been in my life for

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<v Speaker 5>some time, but they were very toxic, you know, they

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<v Speaker 5>had mental health issues. So I was just like, I

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<v Speaker 5>can't deal with this on a long distance type thing,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. So I started to speak to someone else

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<v Speaker 5>and they were cool. I met them through a family friend.

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<v Speaker 5>And it wasn't even anything hectic that happened between us

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<v Speaker 5>or anything that was so monumental or life changing. It

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<v Speaker 5>was just the vulnerability at the time of me getting

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<v Speaker 5>to know someone and speaking to them. It was just

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<v Speaker 5>someone that I was talking to on some Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm about to countries, you know, and I'm leaving behind

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<v Speaker 5>so many things, so many people.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were cool.

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<v Speaker 5>And then long story short, he ghosted me, right and

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<v Speaker 5>then it just felt like a double heartbreak, and I

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<v Speaker 5>was so.

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<v Speaker 2>Ghost what is raw? Like, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 5>Thin?

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<v Speaker 6>Men sometimes don't have the courage to just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not interested, or I'm not where you're at, or

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<v Speaker 6>you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Know how to use their words.

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<v Speaker 5>But I was so offended and taken it back by

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<v Speaker 5>that because it wasn't even about what was going on

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<v Speaker 5>between us, but what I had mentioned to you at

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<v Speaker 5>the time, you know, I had told her I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my gosh, I'm going through so much. I'm about

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<v Speaker 5>to leave my country. Like my mom's in essential worker,

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<v Speaker 5>she's a nurse, so it's so scary, you know, she's

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<v Speaker 5>in the hospitals every day, like I was in a vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 9>Place, you know, at least like me as a person

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<v Speaker 9>just respecting or like I was just in a vulnerable

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<v Speaker 9>place and that on top of everything else, and just

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<v Speaker 9>my degree was just like none of these niggas mean ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just got on the plane.

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<v Speaker 5>Just like writing, and I was so upset. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>how it came up with that title.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice toy, Yeah, the dear Diary.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happened.

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<v Speaker 5>It is it's so like petty. But I realized how

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<v Speaker 5>that instant just like sort of snowball effect into so

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<v Speaker 5>many other things because just off the bad my discussions

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<v Speaker 5>with men were very.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what do you want? You know?

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, like it was laiter down the line where

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<v Speaker 5>I started realizing where the breakdown was. And it was

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<v Speaker 5>just because of that one silly dude that meant nothing

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<v Speaker 5>that inconvenienced me at that time. But I felt that

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<v Speaker 5>because I was vulnerable at that time, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Because sometimes when you're going through something it hurts so much.

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<v Speaker 2>It just hurts so much more.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like you were not even that deep, my nigger,

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<v Speaker 5>Like it was not even that deep, Like you were

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<v Speaker 5>not that great, you didn't change my life, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have been friends at least.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing that people don't understand don't have to be that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Before that, though, you said the person you were dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with have mental health issues. That's a difficult thing. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had people ask me, like, how do you handle that

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<v Speaker 1>if you're dating somebody they have met, because you also

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to abandon someone because you know, for a

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<v Speaker 1>certain like some things they cannot help, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it is a sickness if it's a mental

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<v Speaker 1>health issue, but then you know at certain times it

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<v Speaker 1>affects you. It's like, what's the balance there of knowing, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be supportive, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to endanger myself, right.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was a very difficult thing for me

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<v Speaker 5>to figure out because it also borderline fold manipulative. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>most of the time, it's just like I don't really

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<v Speaker 5>have a say or a valid comment on your behavior

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<v Speaker 5>because it's always going to fall back onto the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that you're lacking this, or you're not one hundred percent okay,

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<v Speaker 5>or you're struggling with this. So it's just like, what

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<v Speaker 5>ground do I really have to call you out, and

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<v Speaker 5>what's the likeliness of you actually changing your behavior?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So I think he was weaponizing his month.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like that was also me learning, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>how powerful and scenttitive mental health is, but just how

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<v Speaker 5>to maneuver around it is also really tricky, especially when

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<v Speaker 5>it's someone's you know, like personality, you know, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm this and this and that because I'm suffering from this.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh I'm this and this and that because you know

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going through that.

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<v Speaker 1>But they basically diagnosed or just saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never also feel like, yeah, are you a fortually.

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<v Speaker 1>Diagnosed we're the papers polar or is it they just

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<v Speaker 1>saying something's wrong?

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<v Speaker 5>And since I met them, they were just open about

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<v Speaker 5>you know, this is what. So I never really took

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<v Speaker 5>the time to ask, like, you know, I just would

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<v Speaker 5>never want to think twice or really make someone feel

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<v Speaker 5>like are you really though?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, are you really depressed?

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<v Speaker 6>So actually a conversation recently with an actress I forget

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<v Speaker 6>who it was, and she was saying she didn't even

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<v Speaker 6>realize she was technically in an abusive relationship because someone

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<v Speaker 6>kept weaponizing what they were going through. But it was

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<v Speaker 6>a manipulation tactic to make her feel and like control her.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people are on medication, like they have to be

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<v Speaker 1>on medication correct in order.

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<v Speaker 4>To correct, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I never saw any medication. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe it was a private thing that they did, but

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<v Speaker 5>I never saw any medication, and I never asked. And

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<v Speaker 5>perhaps now looking back, there's so many red flags that

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<v Speaker 5>I'm realizing that I should have asked. I should have

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<v Speaker 5>you know, but you never know, especially if you've never

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily been in a relationship or been around anyone that

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<v Speaker 5>is suffering from a mental health, whether it's valid or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then you got hooked up with a family friend,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what's tired about hooking somebody up.

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<v Speaker 5>Then when he goes to and I know, and she

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't even trying to hook me up. She was just,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like, damn, girl, you're about to move you

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<v Speaker 5>you know, let me talk to someone, you know, So

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<v Speaker 5>I don't blame her. She she it was cool, and

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<v Speaker 5>we were all friends at the time, so it was

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<v Speaker 5>harmless until it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's hard to help people up because you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like I like my friends to be like I'm like, yeah, girl, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead I'm also not I'm also like a matchmaker. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like to take on that role. I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>a matchmaker and I'm not a wingman because.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm scared. I don't want to be involved. I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to Yeah, I don't want to be involved.

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<v Speaker 1>But then after that, right now you're in La So

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<v Speaker 1>then how do you start dating after that? Because it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I tried, but Los Palmis Avenue that's me trying. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I tried, but I don't know, like I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>dating in America or maybe it's La. I only stayed

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<v Speaker 5>in La is rough it's America. It's like so detached,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. It's like I'm with you, but I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, well, let's talk about Las Palmas Avenue. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>a real story.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Yeah, yes, yes, so Los Palmis Avenue.

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<v Speaker 5>I was and I'll keep saying talking because none of

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<v Speaker 5>me and these people were in a relationship. Got to

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<v Speaker 5>a stage where it was actually like, oh, we're in

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<v Speaker 5>a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>So me and this.

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<v Speaker 5>Person we were really cool, you know, And I stayed

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<v Speaker 5>on Los Palmis Avenue in La So I guess that

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<v Speaker 5>should have been the first red flag because we only

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<v Speaker 5>ever really spent time at.

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<v Speaker 2>Las Palmas at your place right right.

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<v Speaker 5>And if we were not at Los Palmas, we were outside.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you never so you never went to his.

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<v Speaker 2>Place, no me.

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<v Speaker 5>We met outside like at an event, at a private event. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we met at a private event in La.

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<v Speaker 2>It was cool.

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<v Speaker 5>But we had known of each other already. We had

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<v Speaker 5>been following each other right for some time, right, So

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<v Speaker 5>it was like, oh, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Oh you

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<v Speaker 2>stay in La now? Oh nice? Where about Palmis Avenue? Cool?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>And at first, because you know, La is like so active,

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<v Speaker 5>there's always something happening, it would just be I would

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<v Speaker 5>so happened to see him outside, and every time I

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<v Speaker 5>see him outside, we so happened to hang out, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So it wasn't a way you ad what are you

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<v Speaker 5>doing NEXTNK. It was just a I'll bump into you

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<v Speaker 5>and then it's cash we hang out. And so this

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<v Speaker 5>started happening for like the next three months, the first

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<v Speaker 5>couple of months as I arrived in La. And then

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<v Speaker 5>eventually he was just like, oh, do you want to go?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you want to go hang out? Is it Lucky

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<v Speaker 5>the place where you go bowling, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucky Strike, So that was our spots. So we went

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<v Speaker 2>to Lucky Strike.

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<v Speaker 5>That was like five vibes and everything, cute cue, and

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<v Speaker 5>so we started spending time at Las Palmers, you know,

0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.760
<v Speaker 5>started to you know, get to know each other. And

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<v Speaker 5>off the bat, he wasn't a very open person and

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't either. Obviously broken hearted as bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, not really into it.

0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:53.960
<v Speaker 5>So it's not giving open right until randomly I get

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<v Speaker 5>like screenshots from an account and it's in my requests, right,

0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.199
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, and I DM right and it's in my

0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:03.040
<v Speaker 5>request so I don't really see the damn.

0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:04.800
<v Speaker 2>So it's been there for like a week or so.

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<v Speaker 5>At this point I go in and it's a screenshot

0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.440
<v Speaker 5>of and his numbers not safe, so I can see

0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.080
<v Speaker 5>the full number on I message, right, So I first

0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:15.480
<v Speaker 5>go back and check if I have the number saved.

0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:17.000
<v Speaker 5>I have the number saved. Then I see whose number

0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:18.480
<v Speaker 5>it is. Off the beats, I already know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>Between him and another girl and her talking about what

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<v Speaker 5>time am I meeting you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it was so nice to see you. I love

0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.600
<v Speaker 2>spending weekends with you, you know, bring.

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<v Speaker 5>In mind that weekend he had told me he was

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<v Speaker 5>supposed to be at a work ding, you know whatever.

0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.440
<v Speaker 5>So she just sends me those screenshots and I'm like, okay, cool,

0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:43.240
<v Speaker 5>you know it was it was such a petty thing.

0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, but I was just like, well.

0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.600
<v Speaker 5>You know, yeah, generally, what am I supposed to do

0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.639
<v Speaker 5>about this? She didn't, she didn't say anything. She just

0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:55.680
<v Speaker 5>sent the screenshots. She didn't say a word.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it from a secret account or was it from

0:20:57.440 --> 0:20:59.320
<v Speaker 1>the person's real account?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? The chest, Yeah, with the chest.

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<v Speaker 5>Which is what made it so much more easier because

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<v Speaker 5>when I confronted him, I was just like, hey, and

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<v Speaker 5>I said her name, I said so and so and so,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, let me know that you guys had a

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<v Speaker 5>really great time this weekend at your work ding. So

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just gonna yeah, and then I'm just like I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just gonna fall back, you know, you guys do your day.

0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.679
<v Speaker 2>And he was shook.

0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.000
<v Speaker 5>He was shook, And I think that's what made the

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<v Speaker 5>whole thing so dramatic, was just because he was so shocking.

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:33.719
<v Speaker 5>He tried to guess like me, he was like, why

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<v Speaker 5>are you in my business? And I'm like, I literally,

0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:43.359
<v Speaker 5>it's just it's just like yeah, and it was just

0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:46.639
<v Speaker 5>it was very toxic on both it and actually because

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.119
<v Speaker 5>she was also just like very much like you know

0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 5>what you're doing. It's not even that deep. I didn't

0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:57.199
<v Speaker 5>know about you. You clearly knew about me. No, but

0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:00.440
<v Speaker 5>she did have like a cute little following like she's

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:08.360
<v Speaker 5>lucky strieling. He just decided to just you know, remove

0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 5>myself because for you to dal me with your chest

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:15.040
<v Speaker 5>and send me screenshots is already so messy. And it's

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 5>not even like you were fighting for him. It's just

0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:19.760
<v Speaker 5>like you were letting me know that you were spending

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:21.160
<v Speaker 5>time with him, so it's not like.

0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Trying to let me know.

0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:28.760
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, well, technically he wasn't in a

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:29.960
<v Speaker 1>relationship without one of you.

0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:31.400
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't. So that's why I said, say, let's that's

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:35.639
<v Speaker 2>what the song says, my man, you know is ours.

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't feel competitive sometimes like for us as women, you

0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.720
<v Speaker 1>know how sometimes you're with somebody like kind of and

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:43.439
<v Speaker 1>then he's dating someone else and then you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>well if I I mean, I don't know, because I

0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 1>think sometimes that does happen where you're like, oh, I'm

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna let him do this and then he's to be

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:53.720
<v Speaker 1>with her and now no, no, I.

0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Can't do that.

0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.399
<v Speaker 5>I can't do any casual anything. I can't do I

0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:01.359
<v Speaker 5>can't do it. Like, if we're not exclusive, it is it? Yeah, no,

0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:02.200
<v Speaker 5>then we're not doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>What if he would have just been honest and been like, look,

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:07.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I wasn't with either one of you

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.639
<v Speaker 1>and I was still his reactions yeah like you if

0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 1>he would have just been honest and I apologized, you know,

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that was very messy. What if he would have did that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have appreciated.

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<v Speaker 5>You.

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:17.560
<v Speaker 2>See.

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 5>The thing with me is like, let's just be honest

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 5>from jump. Let me know that this is not going

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:23.800
<v Speaker 5>to go anywhere. You know, we're just vibing or I'm

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:25.280
<v Speaker 5>trying to see other people whatever.

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:25.879
<v Speaker 2>Then I can.

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:29.880
<v Speaker 5>Decide for myself. But if we're spending time together and

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.399
<v Speaker 5>you know you're my girl, you're my girl, you know

0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 5>you're my girls, but he's never asked me out.

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.399
<v Speaker 2>So until you ask me out, I'm not your girl,

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:41.440
<v Speaker 2>you know. Like for me, it's just like yeah, call

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 2>you that, I'm just like.

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, like, oh you're not my girl. I'm just like

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it's so scared a bit you'd be like, oh, this

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 1>is my man.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So I don't know, had you just been honest

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 5>and just not so slimy? I feel like it was

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:05.640
<v Speaker 5>just so slimy.

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>And so does somebody cut everybody else off? Because you

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 1>were talking to him? So that means that you cut

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody else off? Because I also think sometimes we're at

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>a disadvantage when we start dating somebody. It's not official,

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>but we're not talking to anybody else.

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 2>That's how we lose.

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 5>Is that how we lose low key, like in the

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 5>talking stage and we're talking to one person only.

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 7>Yes, because you just cut everything else off and then

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 7>it doesn't work out, and then you got to try

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 7>to either find somebody new where we build connections. And

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:36.360
<v Speaker 7>it's just like what people fail to realize is when

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 7>you meet somebody, there's always somebody else before you, like.

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:45.400
<v Speaker 4>Nobody in their lives.

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 7>There's always somebody in said person's life in some type

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.720
<v Speaker 7>of capacity, whether it's a sexual relationship or just talking

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:56.400
<v Speaker 7>readership or going out to coffee relationship. You have somebody

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 7>that's on your phone in some type of way. And

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.160
<v Speaker 7>when you meet some elsa and you like that person,

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 7>you gravitate more towards them and put your energy there

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 7>and either you let it fade or you say, hey,

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.120
<v Speaker 7>I'm in a relationship. Now I'm gonna fall back. But

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 7>that's what we do as women. These men they just

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 7>want us all. They think they're gonna juggle us all.

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Just like in that period you're getting to know someone

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:20.679
<v Speaker 1>else that you're gravitating to. It are you supposed to

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>cut everybody else up?

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:26.680
<v Speaker 6>And when it's official, think you have a ninety like

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 6>I think it's three month, ninety day grace period to

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 6>let the hose fall off.

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I think we all have those people that.

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 6>Because they spend the block every time. So it's like

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.879
<v Speaker 6>even if you aren't even talking, like let's say this

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 6>man that goes to me, right, he's gonna come back

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:47.359
<v Speaker 6>January fifteenth, he'll be back like my taxes, right, and

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:49.439
<v Speaker 6>so I'm going to be like, Okay, now I have

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 6>to say something, whereas before I wouldn't say anything if

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:54.919
<v Speaker 6>I met somebody tomorrow because we are even speaking, But

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 6>he's gonna come back, so I'm gonna have to say something.

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 6>Then that's a ninety day grace period.

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Grace period.

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:06.439
<v Speaker 6>Pakay, Now I have the time to say something, but

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm not necessarily going to go out of my way

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 6>to say do you.

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Think you could love two people at this? Like absolutely? Yeah?

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 2>In this I don't know. I don't think I can.

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 4>Fas difference between loving and being in.

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 6>No, I've definitely had life friends at the same time,

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 6>and I didn't know what to do, like truly, they

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 6>do it to us, but like that's me, like actually,

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 6>and I felt bad, but I didn't know.

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 4>What to do.

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I felt bad.

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 4>I didn't feel bad though I felt bad.

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:40.120
<v Speaker 1>And they found out, but all they did they did

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>so then did they both forget?

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 5>They know?

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 6>We went on on and on for then another two

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 6>years with both of them.

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Did they ask you questions? I feel like guys like

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I did, like, yeah, I'm glad trash.

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Once and then they didn't catch you again.

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.360
<v Speaker 6>So they caught me in the SLI like, Okay, well

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 6>I'm single. I'm not dating either one of you right now.

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 6>But they were both my ex boyfriends separately, okay, like

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 6>at one point and then I broke up with one

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 6>and then I'd be with the other, and there was

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 6>like that lull period where it was like I was

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 6>switching and then one found him in my phone damn.

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it was legal. Yeah.

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if.

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:34.640
<v Speaker 8>My past, my past from my Instagram to that one

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 8>really got me in trouble Instagram. Yeah, and my homegirl

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 8>was doing the same thing and they were friends.

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh it was a mess.

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, damn TV show.

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 6>But now that was a long time ago.

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>It was more than the other.

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, so surely he wins easy.

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>I think you know what it was.

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 6>I think it was actually trauma because he knew my

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 6>mom before she passed, and she was he was there.

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 2>Through all that.

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.199
<v Speaker 6>So well, they both kind of were, but I was

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 6>with one and so I felt like, oh, but he

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 6>knew my mom, Like I always felt like I gave

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 6>him a pass for that. I shouldn't have done that

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 6>because he was the trash here one.

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>But but that was the one. Sometimes we gravitate to

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the trash here one.

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 2>The trauma bond. Yeah, exactly exactly. I feel that.

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, what about the song Waiting on You. Let's talk

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 1>about that.

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 5>I love waiting on You. Waiting on You is like

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 5>the sweetest, most purest innocent song on the album. I'm

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 5>not cussing anyone out.

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 2>You're being very I'm being very sweet.

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>That's some things going on.

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:46.719
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 5>You know, it was still very sweet and very love

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 5>a girl, but it was coming from like a more

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:57.719
<v Speaker 5>personal perspective. I think it was more so the feeling

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 5>of constantly waiting on everything, you know, waiting for your turn,

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 5>waiting for the right love, waiting for the right relationship.

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 5>But at the time, I was in the label waiting

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 5>for them to give me a date for my song

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 5>to drop, just waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, and it's just

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 5>like finding inspiration in the waiting.

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Period, it's like really difficult.

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 5>So I spent a lot of my time making music

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 5>and I made that song during that period, so it's special.

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 4>It is.

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>It's a sweet song.

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Sweet's perspective, it's a different perspective, feel like, you know,

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm not so stone.

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Cold, although maybe you don't want to be.

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be. I don't want to be.

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be. And I think that's how

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel like women get that way because of our experiences.

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like we don't want to be that way, and

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:42.719
<v Speaker 1>when you trying to ignite that, you can feel like

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to be that way with then get better.

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, I agree. I like the song Relapse.

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 2>You like Relapses?

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 6>It Why I like it, it's because you acknowledge the

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 6>friends aspect of it, which I feel like a lot

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 6>of women ignore. When you're like I forgive you, but

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 6>are my homegirls gonna forgive you? And like, what am

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 6>I gonna tell that?

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>That's when you bring up with someone you cannot tell everybody.

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Nobody can because when you get back together, none of

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>your friends gone.

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 4>Exactly, you're not gonna let it go.

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's so real, I know. And I was

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 2>that person.

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 5>I lost all my friends actually sadly. Yeah, so that

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 5>was a song from back day when I had friends.

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>But you lost your friends because.

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 5>No, I don't know, I think I just you know,

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 5>we just lose your friends. I don't know if it's

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 5>after I became famous things changed, and not necessarily because

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 5>I switched up, but naturally I am going to change. Yeah,

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 5>it's not even like I did anything wrong, you know.

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 5>I think about it quite often of the breakdown of

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 5>friendships when you get to a certain place. Maybe it's

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 5>just the fact that there was very little that we

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 5>could connect on. Maybe our priorities changed, but Yeah, it

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 5>was really painful, especially when I was putting the album together. Usually,

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, i'd have like my homegirls, like, girls, what

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 5>do you think? But this part of my life, this

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 5>album was like a very lonely time for me. So

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 5>even in relapsing, I remember when I wrote the song

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 5>it was about the person that I was telling you

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 5>guys earlier about that was struggling with his mental health

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 5>and we'd be on and off and he'd always just

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 5>to get me back. There'd be a bigger trick than

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 5>the last, which involved his mental health, you know. And

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 5>every time he would do this, I'd tell my homegirls

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 5>like he's doing this again, like he's just he's doing

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 5>this again, and they'd be like, this is not good,

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 5>this is not healthy. You know, you gotta cut it off,

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 5>and then cut it off, and then he'd do something else,

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 5>and then I'd have to tell them that, you know,

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 5>and it was just terrible because I ended up, you know,

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 5>distancing myself from them because I didn't want to let

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 5>them down every time you know that I was relapsing,

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 5>you know, and then I just started not telling them

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 5>about what was going on. And it sucks not being

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 5>able to tell your homegirls just because you feel like

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 5>they're going to shout at you, but you know they're

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 5>gonna shout at because they're coming from a good place.

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 1>And then you ended up isolating yourself, and.

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 5>Then you isolate yourself, and then it's even more terrible

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 5>because it's not like your nigga's acting right, you know,

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 5>and you're icing your friends, so you're just hurting yourself.

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're just hurting yourself.

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and then asking that you just never got

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>down to your friends, right.

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't even after that. Me and my friends were

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 5>straight for years after that incident happened. It was totally

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 5>related to other things. I think the more we started

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 5>to grow into ourselves, maybe just being the first famous

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 5>person in your friendship group is a shock to your

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 5>friendship group, and maybe it is difficult to adjust. And

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I was away in another country for two years,

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 5>so there's only so many face times that can really

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 5>make up for me missing birthdays and me missing graduations.

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 5>But I don't know, It's like every time we were together,

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 5>I was either making the plans or we weren't really linking,

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, or I was texting or I wasn't really

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 5>hearing from them. And then the last straw was when

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 5>it was my birthday and I didn't get a personal message,

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 5>but I got like an Instagram post and I was

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 5>going back and forth like is it is it worth it?

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 5>Like is it that deep? But I'm like, damn, I've

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 5>known you for like more than ten years. A personal

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 5>message would.

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Have hit hit different.

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, the whole country coming with you.

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Babe, like FaceTime me a text.

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 5>But I also understand that you know she was going

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 5>through whatever she was going through at the time, so

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 5>I can respect that. But if you can take the

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 5>two minutes to post me, could have kind of taken

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 5>to it just low key even anything. So it just

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 5>started to feel more and more detached, you know, just

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 5>the little patterns of like you can't call me, but

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 5>you can post me. It's just like the little things,

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 5>and it was just like I also, I'm not a

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 5>person that likes to address things, so I never there

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.239
<v Speaker 5>wasn't an actual fall out. I didn't address anything. I

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 5>just I just fell back.

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>When you go home, do you call like or just no?

0:33:59.520 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 2>My family and my brothers, yeah, me and my brother's

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 2>already tired.

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not something that can't be at some point, you know,

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Selvash like, maybe it's just.

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.240
<v Speaker 2>They don't say anything after my album dropped.

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's.

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 2>New friends like friends.

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 4>That hurts, new friends that hurts.

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>That's just hurt And.

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, I mean I didn't lose. Yeah, I

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 2>lost quite a lot of them. I still have.

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 5>It is disappointing, but I've also learned to hold myself

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 5>accountable and let everyone else hopefully hold themselves accountable. I'm

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 5>not bashing anyone, I get it.

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I'm just saying it's probably hurtful. Though

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>it does hurt.

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 2>It hurts like we're friends for years, but it happens.

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about this book.

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 4>Hold on.

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you the name of it, because I

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 1>think this is interesting. Her name is mel Rap and

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>she's like a motivational speaker. But she has a book.

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 1>Is it's called the let them Theory, right, and it's

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.319
<v Speaker 1>just to let other people make their choices and live

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>their lives and start making your job or responsibility to

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>manage or control what other people are doing.

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I love that, I said.

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>By using this theory, she said, I've never felt so.

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 5>Free I love that. That's where I'm at. Yeah, I'm

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 5>just letting people do what they want to do. I

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 5>feel like I'm also the person that's always in people's ears,

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 5>you know, like don't do that, don't do this, you know,

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 5>be straight, be this. So I'm tired of being in

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 5>your ear. Like you act however you want to act,

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 5>And I'm going to add how I act. You know,

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 5>everybody's grown and everything, so just keep the same energy.

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Really well, You've had a lot of accomplishments and music wise,

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>thank you. That has to feel good being like the

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 1>most stream South African women artists on Spotify. Yes, you

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>know that was a huge feat when you did that,

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and putting out your album, going your EP going platinum,

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>where you put the EP out, that had to be

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 1>an amazing feeling. And even doing R and B. I've

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>been the only part of Africa I've been to is

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>South Africa to Johannesburg amazing. It was an event that

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 1>was for women artists, so I got to meet a

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.399
<v Speaker 1>lot of people while I was there. It was called

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>her Story.

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh Fire, What year was that?

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh it was before the pandemic, okay before and I

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:12.240
<v Speaker 1>was oh wow, it was a beautiful, beautiful event.

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I can imagine to go out there and see.

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>The support, and it was like all of the South

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 1>African women artists that were there and.

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 5>When they pull up, they okay, say girls are going

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 5>to pull up?

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the support that you get back home.

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 5>I love South Africa. I love the South African fan base.

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 5>I think I'm always just so taken aback by the

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 5>support that I get from them. Because how I dropped

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 5>my EP I was like a law student, had like

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 5>seven hundred followers on Instagram, give a take like four

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 5>hundred followers on Twitter, and one day I just dropped

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:47.839
<v Speaker 5>the link and I switched my phone off because I

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 5>was just annoyed at some things that were going on

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 5>that day. And the next day in camp, I'm on

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.919
<v Speaker 5>campus in class and my phone is still off because

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 5>I'm upset.

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 2>And the lecture hall is just really weird.

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:04.360
<v Speaker 5>Everyone is staring at me, everyone is pointing, everyone is kicking,

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 5>you know. So I'm like, what's going on, Like it's

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:08.959
<v Speaker 5>really uncomfortable. Then I step out, I pull up my phone,

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 5>and then I'm number one. So that's how it happened

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 5>organically over overnight.

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>But being a law school student and that in like

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>your producer's dorm room. Yeah, which is amazing. Imagine I'm

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 1>going to because first of all, law schools are ready

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>hard enough.

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 2>It is stressful. Yeah, yeah, it was stressful.

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 1>And then to be able to even have the creative

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.319
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like when I'm working, it's hard for

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>me to like do anything creative when I have to

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>work so much. So how do you, like, how were

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>you able to switch back and forth from like legal mode.

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 4>Of former therapy creative to be able to create.

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 5>It was like just a way of life for me,

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 5>Like I just felt very demotivated going to school every

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 5>day and not doing something that I love. You know,

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 5>I love education and I love going to school, but

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 5>it wasn't really what sets my heart on fire. So literally,

0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 5>in between classes, any minute that I got to go

0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 5>to the studio or to my producer's dorm room, I

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 5>would take it. In between lessons, in between lectures after school,

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 5>Like I would go to school, go to lessons, go

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 5>to the studio and be there till like three am,

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 5>go home, shower, and go write an exam and not

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 5>even because I had to, but just because I loved it,

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, And that's passion yeah, it's passionate. Everyone was

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 5>just like, what are you working so hard for?

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:23.879
<v Speaker 2>Like what is this?

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 5>You're not even like a musician, Like what are you doing.

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 5>I was like, don't worry, don't worry. You know, I'm

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 5>doing my own thing. And everyone was just like demotivating

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 5>me when it came to making an EP, because it

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 5>was like, no one comes out with an EP, you know,

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 5>you put out a single first, you know, let the

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 5>market get to know you.

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, I'm not really prayers. I had a story.

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:44.399
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm gonna give you my whole heart.

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna give you a four law.

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate, thank you very much.

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's the no co sign.

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 4>No nothing, yeah, no, nothing, how rare that is anything.

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't have anything.

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.399
<v Speaker 5>God's grace and the sad that African fan base, thank you,

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 5>and the South African fan base. So you know, I'll

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:08.880
<v Speaker 5>always attribute my success and all of the amazing things

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 5>that have happened to me because of my South African

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 5>fan base.

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:16.760
<v Speaker 2>I know, we're such a diverse nation and.

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 5>We have so many genres and I think right now

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm a piano is like the center of focus.

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Always, you know, which is amazing I do. I do.

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 2>It is so fun I do. It's a lot of fun.

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 1>So I first learned that from Uncle Waffles. Obviously she's

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>it existed, but that was when I first really knew.

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she helped.

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 5>She she she played a huge role in helping it crossover,

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:43.359
<v Speaker 5>you know, with her presence, her energy. So yeah, I

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 5>think I feel even more like honored to do what

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 5>I do because even with a piano meaning so much

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 5>and being such a huge part of our culture, I

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.240
<v Speaker 5>always feel like they leave a seat at the table

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 5>for me. It's like, oh, but there is our R

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 5>and B go, we're gonna show her love when she comes.

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:58.839
<v Speaker 5>You know, we're gonna we're gonna listen. You know, we're

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 5>gonna tap in. And that's I feel they look out.

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 2>You know. South African fans are not easy to impress.

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not easy to They're not easy people. So but

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:13.839
<v Speaker 2>I know they love me, and.

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I know that because of the response outside.

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 2>One thing about it, to make sure.

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 5>One thing about it, Yeah, one thing about it, and

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, it's like I see the love in real life.

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 5>For me, it's always like the real life experiences every

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:26.280
<v Speaker 5>time I'm outside an essay.

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Always come up to me. I always show love.

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:32.360
<v Speaker 5>The shows are insane, The shows are out of this world.

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 5>Some of my best shows are in s a just

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 5>off of the love the fan based the people. You

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:40.879
<v Speaker 5>guys have to go to go, you know, I've never

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 5>to go.

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 6>Although the Great White Sharks? Where is that at Cape Town?

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not maybe you're not going to see the sharks.

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what you're talking about. What sharks

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 2>vibes with the.

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>But now let me ask you what are you attracted

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to when it comes to dating?

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 1>One of the things is it looks? Is it power? Like?

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 4>Some people don't care about looks so much?

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Right? You know, sometimes there are things that physically we're

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>more attracted to than other things. Like for Elaine, what

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 1>are some things that you look at?

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 2>You like?

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:20.360
<v Speaker 1>This is the real connection for me?

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 5>For me, it's a man that's able to be considerate.

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 5>A lot of men are inconsiderate. And I mean it

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 5>just like in the simplest way, like are you are

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 5>you a considerate man? Like?

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Are you thinking of me?

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 8>For me?

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 5>Are you thinking so that I don't have to necessarily

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 5>think for the both of us. I hate being in

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 5>a relationship but feeling like I got to think for

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 5>both of us here, I got to make a way

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 5>for both of us.

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I got to figure it out for both of us.

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 5>So someone that's considerate and someone that's emotionally intelligent, I

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 5>can't deal with what do.

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 2>You mean as nigga? Like, what do you mean? What

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 2>do I mean?

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.479
<v Speaker 5>Like it's in the message, you know, it's like it's

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:07.359
<v Speaker 5>read so emotional intelligence and just being considerate and being

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 5>a provider. And being a provider doesn't necessarily mean giving

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:17.440
<v Speaker 5>me millions every day, but Oky, maybe you won't complain that,

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 5>but providing in so many different ways, you know. Can

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 5>you give me your time? Can you give me your attention?

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 5>You know a lot of things, but I think the

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 5>top three massage?

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:30.720
<v Speaker 2>You know. Can you say, can you do like something

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 2>sweet for me when I'm at the studio? Can you

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 2>send a bouquet of flowers or you know, send some

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 2>noble to the studio?

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Anybody list it between somebody being considerate and being a stalker.

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 5>Oh no, no, I think, oh yeah, there is a

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 5>very thin line, but there really isn't. I think a

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 5>stalker is quite literally dangerous. You know, like you can't

0:42:57.680 --> 0:42:59.320
<v Speaker 5>be all up in my girl twenty four to seven

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 5>and you can't be blowing up my phone.

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Because sometimes for guys, they're trying to get your attention.

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 1>But there is definitely a thin line between like sending

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the studio, sending flowers, doing this if you like somebody,

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>oh that's great. If you're not sure, it's like, oh.

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 2>This is right.

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 5>And there's also the love bombing aspect. You know, we're

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 5>like they'll do everything like and you're so completely hooked.

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 5>So that's why sometimes it's like beyond what you can

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 5>do and just like who you are as a person,

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 5>you know, sending me everything every day is cool. But

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people can do that. Actually a lot

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 5>of people want to do that just because I feel

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:39.360
<v Speaker 5>like that's the easiest thing to do, just send her something.

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 5>But can you actually, you know, act ride, Will you

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 5>actually come by the studio you know and come listen

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 5>or you know, actually like give me your time for

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 5>real and be involved.

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 1>How are you were playing music for a guy? Like

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>if you and him come to listen.

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's the last thing we're doing. That's my main

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 2>that is.

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 5>That is the last thing we are doing. Far away

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:11.320
<v Speaker 5>from the studio. We can show anyway about the studio.

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 5>The studio you're coming in. If you're like my man

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:18.360
<v Speaker 5>and you already know all the lyrics, you know, you

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 5>can sing the song top to bottom and yeah, other

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 5>than that off limits.

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 1>What about him like coming to your shows and stuff?

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Are you cool with?

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 2>That's cool? Okay, Yeah, that's cool.

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes cute, it's cute.

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's cute.

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.280
<v Speaker 1>You can come coming backstage with some flowers.

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, come back to your flowers, you know, show me

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 2>the videos you took from backstage, you know, wear the

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:44.880
<v Speaker 2>full merch.

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:47.959
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to start posting post.

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't think i'll start I don't think i'll post

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:53.280
<v Speaker 2>somebody right now. Why must I post?

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 6>All of a sudden, You'll see me at my wedding

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 6>day and they'll be like, who is this? And even

0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 6>then it will be the back of his head. You

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 6>won't know anything about him, that's all.

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 2>That's all.

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 4>You'll see his shoulder.

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I posting posting?

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 1>What if he must to post you you can post me, okay, okay.

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Very yeah, you can post me, post me. I'm not

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 2>posting though.

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's even hard for me to post myself now.

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 5>I must post you that's crazy.

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, you think you're just not good at social media? Like,

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:24.879
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean.

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 5>I just think I've like learned how to give of

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:37.280
<v Speaker 5>myself without having to give of my like sacred parts

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 5>of my life, you know, parts that actually really play

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 5>a role in sustaining me.

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:42.760
<v Speaker 2>My well being.

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 5>My partner is like a huge part of my life,

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, And I wouldn't want to throw him into

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:47.800
<v Speaker 5>whatever was going on internet.

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Internet is crazy.

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>It is.

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 5>Internet is you're having a good day today, Tomorrow you're

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:54.719
<v Speaker 5>not having a good day. You could be having a

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 5>good day in the morning, and then in the evening

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 5>someone tweets something crazy and then it's upside down, right,

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 5>that happened to you.

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:02.239
<v Speaker 2>It happens all the time.

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.399
<v Speaker 5>This morning, someone will on the phone with me telling

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 5>me it's going down on the internet, and I had

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.479
<v Speaker 5>to tell them to stop searching my name on the internet. Yeah,

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 5>Like I needed to keep telling my family, like, don't

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:12.439
<v Speaker 5>search my name on the internet, Like why are you searching?

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 1>That's the worst? Yes much your family. Yes, it's like

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 1>something that I can handle.

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:22.360
<v Speaker 6>But my family, they want to fight, They want to

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:23.640
<v Speaker 6>fight so mad.

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.800
<v Speaker 2>My mom gets so emotional. I'm like, babe, stop searching

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 2>my name on Twitter.

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine anybody saying I've never seen nothing crazy

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:31.960
<v Speaker 1>about you.

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Really, that's great, thank you.

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 9>Don't search, just bump the music music.

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're definitely a little rebellious, though.

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Am I do I give rebellious? You're an aries. I'm

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 2>an aries territory a little bit.

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 4>You know, there's a club here in New York that

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 4>you're a band from because you're aries. I don't know

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 4>the name of Yes, is that legal?

0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:00.320
<v Speaker 1>It feels like some type of discriminate.

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Discrimination is really like a thing for real, But they

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 4>talk about it.

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I saw that. Is there a sign that you won't date?

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Or do you pay attention to that?

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 5>I don't really pay attention. But Gemini is give me

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 5>a tough time? Is it is anyone in Gemini?

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Gemini men are very.

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 4>Say that, you know, I love a Gemini apparently. I've

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 4>had so many.

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 7>All of my significant relationships have been with Gemini, Gemini men, Scorpio.

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 4>The longest relationships.

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, be played with Yeah. Cancers are also a bit wild.

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:41.279
<v Speaker 4>There's a cancer buzzing around me. There's a cancer now,

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:50.360
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like.

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:51.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, because I search things like on Instagram because

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm a Capricorn. I always see like all these memes

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 1>about Capricorn and they be so accurate.

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 5>Every time they are accurate. I think that's that's like

0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 5>the mind about it is like I'm like.

0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't really believe in it, and then I'm like,

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:09.400
<v Speaker 2>but wait, they gag you. I'm like, yeah, that is

0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 2>so mean. That's crazy when.

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 1>When you want to toilest and in your man means

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 1>like was like did you see this?

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Did you see this? That's my love language? And food,

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:24.359
<v Speaker 2>like I want to try this. I love food. I

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 2>love food so much. That's my love language.

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Now listen, have you ever been like, just do you

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:32.399
<v Speaker 1>believe in love at first sight?

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 5>I do?

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I do.

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Has that happened to you?

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 2>It has, which is why I love or lust? No,

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:43.959
<v Speaker 2>it was love. It was love.

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:48.719
<v Speaker 5>It was just like for me to like, really, I

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 5>think something is love. It must be something that I feel,

0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, and there's some there is someone that I've

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:55.720
<v Speaker 5>met for the first time and I was like, Wow,

0:48:57.080 --> 0:48:59.920
<v Speaker 5>I feel I have feelings for you off the bad?

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:01.799
<v Speaker 1>Wow, where did that go.

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Far?

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:05.279
<v Speaker 4>Really far?

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 2>It's still going You didn't mentioned that it's getting hot

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 2>in here, and.

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:19.880
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, to be continued, to be continued on the

0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 5>next project, maybe I'll say a little something more more.

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Because it feels like this album started off a little

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:28.919
<v Speaker 1>heartbreak ish and then it kind of like then there

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:33.400
<v Speaker 1>was a relapsed situation and then there's the you know more.

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 5>But some of the ones up there, it did end

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:38.280
<v Speaker 5>on a sweet note.

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it's like it's like a happy ending of

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:47.320
<v Speaker 2>some sort. Yeah. Yeah, I never like to end projects

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 2>on like a terrible note like.

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Ending.

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 2>It was a good ending.

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:53.879
<v Speaker 1>For Lovely Slowly is a really fun song.

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. That's my favorite song. That's the song.

0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 5>I had so much fun putting that song together, and

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 5>we incorporated rock into it as well, which was my

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:06.400
<v Speaker 5>first time. I made the song with my good friend

0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:10.759
<v Speaker 5>and producer Zeke he South African, and we were working

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:11.400
<v Speaker 5>on that song.

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:14.319
<v Speaker 2>For two years. Wow. Yes, we started.

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 5>Working on that song in twenty twenty two when I

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 5>was staying in l A. And we have a bunch

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 5>of other songs together as well, but that song we

0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:25.760
<v Speaker 5>were just going back and forth on like the palette

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:27.759
<v Speaker 5>that we wanted to create, you know, we just like

0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 5>wanted something that felt smooth fresh. We were listening to

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:33.759
<v Speaker 5>a lot of like full columns at the time as well,

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 5>who was like inspiring the sounds?

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:40.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were. We went really just.

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 1>That one song, I can feel it.

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:49.360
<v Speaker 4>We all had that studio.

0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so yeah.

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 5>In Pala as well, we spend so much time just

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 5>listening to these fire artists and finding a way that

0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 5>felt like unique to me as a South African you know,

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:10.320
<v Speaker 5>R and B artist and.

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Funny at your age, like the music that you're inspired by.

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm an old soul.

0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so much.

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 2>I can tell.

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 5>I don't send playlists because I feel like boys my

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 5>age will be like girl.

0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:28.560
<v Speaker 1>It's so impressive when a man can be on your

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 1>musical like palette.

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know what I mean, because.

0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a hard thing to do.

0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Music is so intimate.

0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like being able to lay around and listen to

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>music that y'all both can like have a unique It

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 1>is amazing.

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 4>That's a real intimacy.

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing works then when somebody doesn't like the type

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 1>of music you like and they'd be playing shit and

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you'd be like.

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 5>That happened to me a lot when I was staying

0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 5>in La Every time I said I was South African.

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 5>They would like search indigenous like South African music, and

0:51:57.760 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 5>that's what they'd be playing, like on the car to date,

0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:04.840
<v Speaker 5>and I'd be like, damn, like I listened to trap,

0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:05.720
<v Speaker 5>like you can play something.

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, it's okay, like yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever dated white guys?

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:13.480
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:14.040
<v Speaker 2>I haven't.

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, you guys are thinking about being it all

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>types of men.

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I haven't. Okay that you haven't either, I haven't.

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to say that I discriminated. It just hasn't happened.

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it hasn't happened for me.

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:27.200
<v Speaker 1>It's different.

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:29.839
<v Speaker 6>You know what I want to I can imagine Blazian baby.

0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 6>I want to have a Blatian baby. That's like my dream.

0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>It'd be like because my mom is black, my dad

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 1>is exactly. I'm like, you know, have you ever dated

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:39.480
<v Speaker 1>another race at all? Period?

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I haven't, Okay, yeah, I really haven't.

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:48.919
<v Speaker 1>No, have you dated a Asian guy ever?

0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:51.839
<v Speaker 2>I haven't dated one.

0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:53.799
<v Speaker 1>But you've slept yeah, okay.

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:55.239
<v Speaker 6>One.

0:52:55.960 --> 0:53:00.560
<v Speaker 5>It was great and there's never like a culture barrier

0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 5>or cultural shock.

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Well there is so.

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 6>Well I don't know because I didn't really like to

0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:10.320
<v Speaker 6>see him that long, but I guess in my mind

0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:13.040
<v Speaker 6>and I made this up in my mind. I lost

0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 6>my mom, and so I'm like, I want a strong

0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:19.520
<v Speaker 6>woman of color, and I don't know if I want

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:23.960
<v Speaker 6>it to be a black woman like for my kids grandparents.

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:26.279
<v Speaker 6>I would love to, but I'm like, I don't know

0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:28.160
<v Speaker 6>if they I don't feel like they make black women

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 6>like they used to.

0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:29.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know my.

0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 6>Generation, seriously, like I don't know, like my when I

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:34.239
<v Speaker 6>think of my grandmother's I'm like, I don't know if

0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:37.480
<v Speaker 6>any of these bitches could ever measure even me. And

0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:39.359
<v Speaker 6>so I'm like, Okay, what would the next best thing?

0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:41.920
<v Speaker 6>I feel like an Asian grandmother would be.

0:53:41.800 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 4>Like really disciplined and really as I.

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<v Speaker 1>Need that, You're right, grandmother who don't like black people?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah that you know, obviously that wouldn't work, but you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I would need them to be very accepting, like.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's that?

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<v Speaker 6>Who's the girl on the talk not the talk, the

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:02.720
<v Speaker 6>real like her mom is so cute?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, we got to ask, no kidding,

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:09.400
<v Speaker 1>he might tell you something else, but yeah, something like

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<v Speaker 1>that that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that for you.

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<v Speaker 7>That is very I love that for you is so

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<v Speaker 7>interesting if you do that the culture. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 7>just want her to have some culture and substances. What

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<v Speaker 7>you say, I do. And if it doesn't come from

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<v Speaker 7>a strong Black woman, maybe a strong Asian woman.

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<v Speaker 6>Somebody else from a different culture, I think, right, being

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<v Speaker 6>a person of color.

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<v Speaker 4>What you're saying somebody?

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<v Speaker 2>So you think you're data South African men? Yeah? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know? Do you know what they look like? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what they like? What they like? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to speak bad on my brothers. What

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<v Speaker 2>they like.

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<v Speaker 5>These are like they love black girls, Yeah, they love

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<v Speaker 5>the South African men.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you know modern men?

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<v Speaker 5>Someone into black girls, someone into traditional South African women,

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<v Speaker 5>someone into white women.

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<v Speaker 2>Some you know data cross that's pretty much yeah. Modern.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean you speaking bad?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like you from your experience.

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 2>From my experience.

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<v Speaker 5>You need to give yourself time to find the right

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 5>type of South African men, you know, I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>I think it might be difficult and rocky in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 5>There's different types of men in South Africa. There's men

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<v Speaker 5>that are into independent women, you know, women who have

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<v Speaker 5>autonomy of their lives, of their bodies, of their choices,

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:32.239
<v Speaker 5>women who are confident in themselves, who speak out, who

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<v Speaker 5>speak against men, And there's some men that don't like

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<v Speaker 5>that and aren't into it and are totally opposed to

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<v Speaker 5>women who have a voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do they all men like that who are liking it?

0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Why do you cuss so much?

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<v Speaker 4>In Lane?

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<v Speaker 2>We don't like what you were wearing that video, you

0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:50.359
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So, and I'm just saying more conservative.

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:55.320
<v Speaker 5>We do have some conservative and we do have modern.

0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:59.160
<v Speaker 5>We do have traditional, there's polygamy. If you're trying to

0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:04.640
<v Speaker 5>have sister, we have everything. There are people who are

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:08.040
<v Speaker 5>with you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the difference between men in l A and you

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<v Speaker 1>would say South African men.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like South African men they still some way

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<v Speaker 5>have like they like there's like a quarter sea for you,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I don't know if it's like the African

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<v Speaker 5>thing or like the There's like a spirit of Ubuntu.

0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 2>It's called Auntu.

0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 5>It's like a peoplehood, you know, being a good person overall,

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:39.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, being caring. So there's still a spirit of Ubuntu.

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:44.439
<v Speaker 5>Even if you're meeting yes, you know, you can still

0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:46.480
<v Speaker 5>feel like, Okay, I'm speaking to a regular person. That

0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 5>has regard for me and respect for me until you

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.520
<v Speaker 5>figure out what they're like in a romantic relationship. But

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:54.879
<v Speaker 5>I think that's the difference between that. I think when

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:57.479
<v Speaker 5>you come to America, you know, whether you're a black

0:56:57.480 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 5>woman or not, you're just damn what can you offer?

0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:03.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, what you bring it to the table? Or

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 5>there's nothing significant to them, like you're just there's so

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:10.319
<v Speaker 5>many women that they have access to that they don't

0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:13.960
<v Speaker 5>see women as like valuable or even significant. I just

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 5>didn't feel significant, you know. Yeah, I don't know if

0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:18.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Was I in the wrong? Was in the wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>I think La is different too than others. Yeah, La,

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<v Speaker 1>La is because a lot of people there I think

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>aren't from there, and people move to LA because they're pursuing,

0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:35.080
<v Speaker 1>like you know, so they move there, and sois Sometimes

0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:36.960
<v Speaker 1>it can feel transactional, like what do you do?

0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 2>You know first, that's the first thing they all say,

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:41.240
<v Speaker 2>what do you do?

0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Atlanta is the same way.

0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I haven't been to I live there.

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:48.440
<v Speaker 4>It's very what do you do?

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 1>They do?

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<v Speaker 7>Ex where you're from because most people aren't from there,

0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 7>but it's very what do you do? There's a lot

0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 7>of like how can you help me? Help me type

0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:00.840
<v Speaker 7>of vibes? I get that, like how can I what?

0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:04.840
<v Speaker 4>What type of you know? What can you offer me?

0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 7>As far as like your resources and your network?

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 4>And it's just like, what's.

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<v Speaker 1>Up, Elena? I would think though you feel you seem

0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 1>like a prize. You could sing you're beautiful than your

0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:25.920
<v Speaker 1>baby hares have happened every time you keep looking at you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:58:28.200 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 1>That's one of them.

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<v Speaker 5>D M is like the dams are rowdy, rowdy. You

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:39.080
<v Speaker 5>can have to catch me in your life. Yeah, if

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 5>you're serious, it has to be in real life. Do

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:44.600
<v Speaker 5>you respond to the d M s. Who's the spiciest

0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:45.760
<v Speaker 5>d M you've gotten.

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<v Speaker 2>That? What was that? I wouldn't put them on.

0:58:57.800 --> 0:59:03.960
<v Speaker 5>It's always like high profile people who are actively in relationships.

0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:06.200
<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm like, I wouldn't want to, you know.

0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:09.760
<v Speaker 5>So I'm just like it's yeah, it's crazy, yeah.

0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Disappointing.

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<v Speaker 5>With you. You know, I'm not so keen on dms

0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:19.800
<v Speaker 5>because it's just like, what's really going on? So you're

0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 5>gonna have to catch me in real life and tell

0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:22.800
<v Speaker 5>me your story straight, and then.

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:24.680
<v Speaker 1>They'll be like, oh, that wasn't me from my pro

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:26.440
<v Speaker 1>that was my homeboy that do you know.

0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:26.840
<v Speaker 2>What I mean?

0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:28.800
<v Speaker 5>You know, and then they take a screenshot if you

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:32.320
<v Speaker 5>respond like, oh, Elene is responding like you know.

0:59:32.920 --> 0:59:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know the best.

0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is an approach on a business level, you think.

0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 2>So that would upset me if I think you're about.

0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:41.920
<v Speaker 1>To give you some money and they could be like

0:59:42.080 --> 0:59:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and they could really do business then get.

0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:46.400
<v Speaker 4>To know you as a p okay okay, okay and make.

0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:48.720
<v Speaker 1>You feel more comfortable. But that if they really want

0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to court you, okay, I would think, okay, because how

0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 1>else are you going to respond? You're not going to

0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 1>respond to somebody up Hey maybe girls know right, But

0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:01.320
<v Speaker 1>if somebody's like, you know, we have this baby hair

1:00:01.360 --> 1:00:02.960
<v Speaker 1>product that we think you'd be great.

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<v Speaker 5>To Yeah, what do you need? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I will respond to that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Ellene. We appreciate you so much for coming.

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<v Speaker 2>You so sweet, Thank you for having me. This was

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<v Speaker 2>so much fun. This was my first you know, girl

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<v Speaker 2>get together here and I had a great time.

1:00:24.440 --> 1:00:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I had a good time and we had a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Because your music and then getting to talk to you

1:00:28.840 --> 1:00:31.600
<v Speaker 1>in real life and understand where those songs are coming from.

1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that connection is important and so we got

1:00:34.320 --> 1:00:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a chance to really feel what your past experiences have

1:00:37.560 --> 1:00:39.600
<v Speaker 1>been like. And like you're only what twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Five, yes, twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is when all the ship stuff happens. I know,

1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you can get it out the way you want, like

1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:51.480
<v Speaker 1>all the shitty things to happen earlier, so that you're like, Okay,

1:00:52.040 --> 1:00:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you got that out the way, Dallas. I'm always grateful that,

1:00:54.760 --> 1:00:57.240
<v Speaker 1>like I went through a lot earlier on yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>that I could kind of like learn my lessons.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I'm never opposed to failing forward, so you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not opposed to tripping up this field.

1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:08.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I'm not opposed to it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, Elaine, thank you much, and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you check out her new project that's out

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Because you did this independently.

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<v Speaker 2>I did so.

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<v Speaker 1>And your heart doesn't feel so stone cold. It feels

1:01:20.320 --> 1:01:21.800
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's getting warm.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always warm.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just sometimes I set up real quick before I

1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:28.960
<v Speaker 5>do certain things or head you know, head places, or

1:01:29.040 --> 1:01:30.360
<v Speaker 5>engage with certain people.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm learning when to do, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm learning how to balance.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I'm planning my I'm going to be having a

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<v Speaker 5>national tour this Valentine's unfair, but yes, it's going to

1:01:41.480 --> 1:01:44.200
<v Speaker 5>be exciting and then hopefully there'll be more in the US,

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<v Speaker 5>so stay tuned to the socials.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, we have a music video idea for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You do what is it? You know the story of Medusa?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, and like she she turns men to stone, but

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<v Speaker 6>like the backstory is because she was she was heartbroken.

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<v Speaker 2>You should do a player on that. You a you?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 5>We like? Okay, creative director director direct all Bright, Well,

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<v Speaker 5>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Lift Service in Light.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.