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Speaker 1: Welcome to Monday's edition a Big Blue Kickoff live here

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Speaker 1: on Giants dot Com. He's Paul the Tina on Lance

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Speaker 1: meddo with you for the next sixty minutes. Two zero

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Speaker 1: five one three is the telephone number. You can also

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Speaker 1: get to us via Twitter using hashtag Giants Chat. Today,

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Speaker 1: we're going to begin looking ahead to the actual two

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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen regular season. We're going to preview the Miami

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Speaker 1: Dolphins and each and every day throughout the course of

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Speaker 1: this offseason quiet time, we'll spend each day focusing on

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Speaker 1: another Giants opponents. Armando s Algero of the Miami Herald

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Speaker 1: will be joining us later on in the program, will

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Speaker 1: break down the Miami Dolphins, who the Giants are gonna

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Speaker 1: be hosting in week fifteen at MetLife Stadium. So that's

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Speaker 1: one thing on the agenda. Also, get to as many

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Speaker 1: phone calls and tweets as we can before that interview.

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Speaker 1: But ESPN dot com had a very interesting article about

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Speaker 1: main questions surrounding each NFC East team. We want to

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Speaker 1: delve into that, and we'll feel free to get into

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Speaker 1: any topic you want as you weigh in throughout the

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Speaker 1: course of the program. So Paul let's start with ESPN

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Speaker 1: dot COM's article, and they have a question for each

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Speaker 1: NFC East team. The Eagles question is can quarterback Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz get over the injury bug? So we'll get into that.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys question is what will coordinator Kellen Moore bring

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Speaker 1: And the Redskins question is when will rookie Dwayne Haskins

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Speaker 1: take over as the Redskins starting quarterback. So let's start

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Speaker 1: with the first of the two quarterback questions, and that

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Speaker 1: is Carson Wentz and whether or not he could get

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Speaker 1: over the injury bug. Well, the Eagles are banking on

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Speaker 1: that because Nick Foles signed with the Jacksonville Jaguars, Nate

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Speaker 1: Sudfeld is in line to be the backup quarterback, who,

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Speaker 1: in fairness, has spent a few seasons in Philadelphia does

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Speaker 1: know the system, but his sample size is minute. So

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Speaker 1: they need Carson Wentz to hold up because he has

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Speaker 1: by far more game experience on that roster than any

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Speaker 1: other quarterback. And you know when people ask this question, well,

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Speaker 1: none of us have a crystal ball, Paul. I mean,

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Speaker 1: of course, the Eagles are banking on him staying healthy.

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Speaker 1: And this is the other thing that I think gets misinterpreted.

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Speaker 1: Last year's injury was a back injury. That's what shut

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Speaker 1: him down at the end of the season. The way

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Speaker 1: people talk about it is it was the lingering torn

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Speaker 1: too soon from the torn a c L. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you that. But what shut him down at the end

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Speaker 1: of last season had no relation to the torn a

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Speaker 1: that's why, you know, as far as I'm concerned, you

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Speaker 1: have to think that Carson Wentz is going to be

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Speaker 1: the Carson Wentz coming out of the gate. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's going to be any lingering effects of any

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Speaker 1: of that stuff once he came back last year and

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Speaker 1: then the back was was the problem. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was clear to me that you know, he was

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Speaker 1: still physically capable of moving, escaping, and doing the kinds

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Speaker 1: dangerous quarterback in his earlier time with the Eagles. I'm

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Speaker 1: never in favor of running quarterbacks. I'm never gonna make

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Speaker 1: escapability is certainly incredibly valuable, especially when Peterson likes to

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Speaker 1: Of course, the big key to this isn't even so

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Speaker 1: The question really isn't so much about Wentz. It's about

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Speaker 1: how much pressure is his offensive line going to be

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Speaker 1: is for the Eagles and for any quarterback to your point,

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Speaker 1: because you're exposing yourself to more hits. And the play

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Speaker 1: and that is exactly what the Eagles want. A grinder

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Speaker 1: They can grind it and pound it when they want to.

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Speaker 1: I think he's one of the most creative minds in

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Speaker 1: The two of them worked together in Kansas City under

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Speaker 1: more of a reflection of their secondary being decimated by

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Speaker 1: of shootouts. I mean, look at that Saints game. If

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Speaker 1: they're probably not gonna keep all three of those quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: want to move Dwayne Haskins along slowly Paul or do

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Speaker 1: already Haskins comes in with little big time experience, having

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Speaker 1: We drafted this guy high, number one pick, blah blah

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Speaker 1: you do it. Well, he'll have a reason to make

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Speaker 1: a change, Jake Gruden if the schedule in the early

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Speaker 1: I mean, we talked so much about what the offense

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Speaker 1: another very impressive season. Can the offensive line hold up?

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Speaker 1: But you know, the defense, to me, needs to start

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Speaker 1: meeting the offense halfway. Paul. That's the best way that

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Speaker 1: back under them. Case point, Marcus Golden, there's an achilles

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Speaker 1: on every one of these teams, and I'm admitting this

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Speaker 1: to you. Well, I'm not giving me a hard time

432
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Speaker 1: saying that I'm I'm killing the other three giving I'm

433
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Speaker 1: killing all four teams because they all have an achilling.

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Speaker 1: I'm giving you more of a hard time for just

435
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Speaker 1: dismissing Jason winning because he was out of football diseason.

436
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Speaker 1: When the guy you tell me the last time Jason

437
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Speaker 1: would have missed the football game because of injury. He's

438
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Speaker 1: one of the toughest players in the National Football League historically,

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Speaker 1: so I would put money on him holding up as

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Speaker 1: opposed after a year in the jacuzzi of the broadcast booth. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: they'll see there's certainly questions about he pick up where

442
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Speaker 1: he left off, how much playing time and they gave

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Speaker 1: him That's what I was giving you. But but the

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Speaker 1: point being the Giants receiving corps. We've already discussed at

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Speaker 1: infer need him that the Giants have potentially a better

446
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Speaker 1: top to bottom receiving corps than they had last year

447
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Speaker 1: when you consider that they lost Latimer. You know, for

448
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Speaker 1: a good part of the season because of injury. They

449
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Speaker 1: lost Beckham for a part of the season because of injury.

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Speaker 1: We know that Golden Tate is an outstanding throw down

451
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Speaker 1: conversion guy. He's always been that way. No matter what

452
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Speaker 1: you want to say about where he's gonna line up

453
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Speaker 1: or how many deep routes he runs, he moves chains

454
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Speaker 1: and that's what he does. Already drafted the catch as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so, no, it's not about the receivers. It's

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Speaker 1: it's all about how will the Giants managed to get

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Speaker 1: a pass rush going that is going to allow this

458
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Speaker 1: defense to get to the middle of the pack. That

459
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Speaker 1: is the the King Kong question about this roster of

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Speaker 1: this year. Well related to the question of that ESPN post.

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Speaker 1: Cody Latimer actually, interestingly was quoted by The New York

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Speaker 1: Post a few days ago when he was asked about

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Speaker 1: the outlook of the receiving corps. He said, quote, anybody

464
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Speaker 1: can get the ball. You're open, you don't get it,

465
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Speaker 1: it means somebody else is getting it and you're hoping

466
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Speaker 1: they can make a play. We got an unselfish room

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Speaker 1: in there. We don't really care. Actually, don't talk about

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Speaker 1: it at all. Who's getting the ball. It's a group effort.

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Speaker 1: The group can beat dominant period and quote, and I

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Speaker 1: think group effort is the best way to describe it.

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Speaker 1: Corey Coleman's another name I would throw out that's in

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Speaker 1: the mix. You know you mentioned Sladen the rookie, Benny

473
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Speaker 1: Fowler who's returning. He also was on the roster, Cody

474
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Speaker 1: Lattimer trying to get back to full health and hold

475
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Speaker 1: up for a season. There's competition. Russell Shepherd. Russo Shepherd

476
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Speaker 1: is another guy who's a special teamer but filled in

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Speaker 1: admirably when he was given his opportunity. So you know,

478
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Speaker 1: we named the good five six guys right there that

479
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Speaker 1: are gonna be all in the mix for solidifying that

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Speaker 1: third job and also solidifying the fourth, fifth, and six spots,

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Speaker 1: depending on how many receivers they keep. You don't answer.

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Speaker 1: I think the bottom line for the Giants, and we've

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Speaker 1: discussed this also in a different form or in different

484
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Speaker 1: angles over the course of the last five or six weeks,

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Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna have some really tough cuts at

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Speaker 1: the end of the summer camp U the receiving corps

487
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Speaker 1: is gonna be difficult to determine how many you're gonna

488
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Speaker 1: keep and who's gonna go. Same thing with the defensive backs.

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Speaker 1: They've got two positions there that are going to be

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Speaker 1: extremely difficult. They're gonna be gritting their teeth trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, exactly what are you going to do

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Speaker 1: with those guys, Because again, if you want to keep

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Speaker 1: an extra guy, you gotta steal somebody from another position.

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Speaker 1: You know, you gotta take that roster spot. You can't

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Speaker 1: have it. You can't have You're not gonna get that

496
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Speaker 1: extra tight end because we've gotta have an extra receiver.

497
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna get that extra lineback or that extra

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Speaker 1: lineman because we want to keep the extra defensive back.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Now it gets to be a

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Speaker 1: shell game. Good problem to have when you have competition

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Speaker 1: at various time. The Giants have had that in a while,

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Speaker 1: So I mean that's something to look forward to. As

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Speaker 1: far as their outlook, I think it could very well

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Speaker 1: take the first quarter of the season to see the

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Speaker 1: true identity of the defense. I don't necessarily disagree with that.

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Speaker 1: Two zero one four or five one three is the

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Speaker 1: telephone number we'll try to squeeze in a call or

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Speaker 1: two before we have Armando sal Gero coming on to

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Speaker 1: break down the Dolphins in a few minutes. Quick side

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Speaker 1: note related to what we were talking. Last game that

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Speaker 1: Jason Witten missed thanks to Dan Salomon, our producer, October twelve,

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Speaker 1: two thousand three, against the Eagles, due to a broken jaw.

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Speaker 1: So it's two thousand nineteen. He last missed a game

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Speaker 1: of two thousand three. He's probably get old sometimes. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that he's not getting up there in age.

516
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Speaker 1: My point is he is extremely durable. Scott is in

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Speaker 1: from Mexico and we opened up the phone lines to him. Scott,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Blue Kick Off Live. What do you

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Speaker 1: got for us? Doing very well? What's happening? I was

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Speaker 1: very listening intently to your conversation, and I have some questions.

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Speaker 1: I have actually two questions point about what you were

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Speaker 1: talking about, one on a different subject, but on the

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Speaker 1: one you were talking about as far as the team's

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you agree that in a serious injury to any

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Speaker 1: of those four teams in safe god forbid, an injury

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Speaker 1: to see Clon Barkley puts the Giants in the last place,

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Speaker 1: or in a serious injury to the quarterback in Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: may do the same thing that because of the way

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Speaker 1: the teams are formatted, that really any serious injury is

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Speaker 1: going to really impact any one of the teams because

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Speaker 1: of the lack of other personnel to hopefully fulfill positions.

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Speaker 1: And I was just curious what you what you're uh

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Speaker 1: comments were on. Well, I think when you say serious injury, uh,

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Speaker 1: it depends on what spot it's going to be at,

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Speaker 1: because I think each one of these teams clearly have

536
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Speaker 1: achilles heels going into the season. And at the same time,

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Speaker 1: each one of these teams has a unit or two

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Speaker 1: that is one of strength. So if you lose somebody,

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Speaker 1: even if it's a starter from one of those strong units,

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Speaker 1: you can probably still survive it and and maybe even

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Speaker 1: be in contention to win the division. But if you

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Speaker 1: lose a guy from one of the thin spots on

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Speaker 1: your roster, for example, Okay, yes, if if the Cowboys

544
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Speaker 1: losing the Joe Elliott, they're in deep doo doo. If

545
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Speaker 1: the Giants lose Barkley, they're in deep doo do obviously,

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Speaker 1: I mean you know, and I'll be and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you something else too. Now, the Redskins, they got a

548
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Speaker 1: paid but they also got guys coming back off of

549
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Speaker 1: injury and they think he can be a lead back.

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Speaker 1: So maybe if they lose a p maybe they're actually

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Speaker 1: in better shape then if one of the other teams

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Speaker 1: in the division lost their lead back. Because I think

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Speaker 1: if Joanna, if if Howard goes down, Jordan Howard goes

554
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Speaker 1: down for the Eagles, that's bad news for them because

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Speaker 1: they don't have much depth there. So it depends when

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Speaker 1: you say a key injury, where is the key injury

557
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Speaker 1: gonna be at a thin spot or a thick spot

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Speaker 1: on the roster? Well, I think it depends on the

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Speaker 1: depth chart basically, is what you're saying. And keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: Scot the Eagles two years ago when they won the

561
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they had a rash of injuries, and we're

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Speaker 1: talking about across the board. They lost their kicker, they

563
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Speaker 1: lost Carson Wentz, they lost running backs, they lost offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: and then they still went on to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to say there's a rule of

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Speaker 1: thumb that every time you lose a key player it

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Speaker 1: means all of a sudden your seasons do. It depends

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Speaker 1: on the competition in the depth jargon. Right. One of

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Speaker 1: the other things that I may disagree with you, Paul

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Speaker 1: on is uh that pressent. I'm not a fan obviously

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but I think he has one of the

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Speaker 1: highest QPR ratings in the league when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter where it actually counts, and so bringing

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Speaker 1: teams back, he's one of the top performers in the league.

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Speaker 1: So isn't it a bit disingenuous, even though I know

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Speaker 1: I think the point you were trying to make to

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Speaker 1: say he's not as good as some of the other quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: yet in crunch time when it really matters, he's one

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Speaker 1: of the best in the leagues. And Scott, listen, we'll

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Speaker 1: let you go on that note because we have a

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Speaker 1: guest coming up. Will let Paul respond. But do appreciate

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Speaker 1: the phone call. Thanks, I appreciate you got it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The problem is when you just quote a stat like that,

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Speaker 1: you have to take it in its proper context. So

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Speaker 1: you can talk all you want about quote rating. But

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Speaker 1: now again, what were the position that the Cowboys were

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Speaker 1: in in those games? Were they coming from behind, were

588
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Speaker 1: they in the lead? Was it that they were playing

589
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Speaker 1: week teams when he piled up some very good fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter stats. You know, if you're piling up great fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter numbers as a quarterback against the Swiss chief secondary,

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Speaker 1: and we know that there are a number of Swiss

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Speaker 1: chief secondaries in the NFL, well then what exactly does

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Speaker 1: that mean? Not a whole lot. That's why I again numbers. Boy,

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Speaker 1: you know, I can't stand when people just want to

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Speaker 1: quote one number two you and throw that out and say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a blanket statement off of one number.

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Speaker 1: There's probably about six, seven or eight numbers that have

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Speaker 1: to be meat loaf together before you can formulate any

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Speaker 1: kind of theory in terms of a broad scope. So

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Speaker 1: let's get to our guests. But that's my take on that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big Dak Prescott fan. Period. Well again, lord,

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Speaker 1: it's the NFC East along the way here on Big

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Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff Live PRECENTI by Cores Life. But now we

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Speaker 1: turn our attention to the two thousand nineteen Giants schedule.

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Speaker 1: First up, we're previewing the Miami Dolphins. The Giants are

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Speaker 1: going to be hosting the Dolphins on December in week

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Speaker 1: fifteen here at MetLife Stadium, and we're now joined by

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Speaker 1: Armando Salguero. He covers the Dolphins for the Miami Herald.

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Speaker 1: He's their Dolphins insider. Armando, you got Lance Meadow, you

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Speaker 1: got pauled A Tino here on Giants dot Com, Big

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Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff Live. Appreciate the time today, how's everything everything,

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Speaker 1: He's great. Thanks for letting me lead off here. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: it's never too early to start to speculate and get

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Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves in terms of the upcoming season. Now, Armando,

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Speaker 1: since you've been covering the Dolphins are quite some time,

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Speaker 1: you've seen your fair share of coaching changes, So I

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Speaker 1: want to start off big picture perspective, new head coach

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Speaker 1: and Brian Flores. What seems different maybe this time around

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Speaker 1: with them making a change compared to what you've seen

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Speaker 1: over the last few decades, in them making changes every

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Speaker 1: three or four years so often. Yeah, So what is

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Speaker 1: different this time around is that they have lowered expectations. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they have decided that they're going to hire. You know,

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Speaker 1: once upon a time, the Miami Dolphins were a team

626
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Speaker 1: that would go out and try to get the star

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Speaker 1: head coach. They They lost Don Shula but hired Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Johnson after he won two Super Bowls they moved on

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Speaker 1: and they plucked Nick Saban out of l s U

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Speaker 1: after he won a national championship. We're now at the

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Speaker 1: situation where, uh, Brian Flora has God bless him. He

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Speaker 1: he won a Super Bowl with the New England Patriots,

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Speaker 1: and he was the defensive play caller, but he was

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Speaker 1: the first year defensive play caller and he hadn't earned

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Speaker 1: the title of defensive coordinator yet. So he's a relative unknown,

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Speaker 1: unproven guy. He's gonna be a first year head coach,

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Speaker 1: going to have a first year offensive coordinator. He's going

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Speaker 1: to have a first year defensive coordinator. Uh. And they've

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Speaker 1: had an offseason where they really didn't do a whole

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Speaker 1: lot and they've actually talked about ownership, has talked about

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Speaker 1: three and thirteen and rebuilding, and in some interviews for

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Speaker 1: coaches they use the word tanking. So, um, I'm not

643
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: expecting a ton from Brian Florence right off the bat.

644
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: Well in mind, let me let me just go to

645
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: the the topic of of tanking. And I'm not gonna

646
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: pin them down with that word because it's a nasty

647
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: word in professional sports. But obviously there are a lot

648
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: of folks who believe that they would like to lose

649
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: as many games to get one of those upper echelon

650
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the draft in the spring of I don't

651
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: know if if if there's much weight to that or not,

652
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: but they did make a trade this offseason to a

653
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: whyre Josh Rosen, a former number one pick from the Cardinals.

654
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: So I ask you, um, are they I don't know

655
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: if the word committed as appropriate, because again there's so

656
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: much talk about them trying to get a high draft pick.

657
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: But are they in a waiting c mode to see

658
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: if Rosen can perform so well that maybe they won't

659
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: necessarily go for that next franchise QB next April? Or

660
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: are they in a in a mentality of, Hey, you

661
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: know what, we think Rosen is the next franchise guy

662
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: and all this talk about tanking is kind of hogwash

663
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: because we really would like to latch our wagon to him. Yeah,

664
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: it's more of the former than the latter. They are

665
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: definitely in a transition mode. They've portrayed the acquisition of

666
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, for which they gave up a second round

667
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: pick and a fifth round pick as a flyer. Um.

668
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: That must make him feel the good expect second round

669
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: guys and guys that were picked in the first round

670
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: the year before to be more than that. So he

671
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: is a flyer. They're putting no pressure on him to

672
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: be a franchise quarterback. If he is that, great, if

673
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: he's not, they're moving on to the picking of a

674
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: quarterback in the first round. It's as simple as that.

675
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: As far as the tanking thing, let me clarify it

676
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: for you a little bit. A lot of people have

677
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: tanking in their minds. As we're going to try and

678
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: lose on purpose. We're gonna ask players to to not

679
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: make plays. We're not going to coach hard. That's not

680
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: how the Dolphins have approached it. Uh and nor is

681
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: it how the Dolphins will approach it. But when you're

682
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: not signing the best guys, when you're not addressing all

683
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: of your needs or as many of your needs as

684
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: possible in the off season, when you're adding guys, you know,

685
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback today is not Josh Rosen, it's Ryan

686
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick and they signed him for five million dollars after

687
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: two or three other guys including uh, you know, um

688
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater down in New Orleans. Who's a backup that no,

689
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to go start for you because what

690
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: you're offering me is not legit. And so when that's

691
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: the situation, um, yeah, you're you're you've organically tanked the

692
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: off season and you're setting your sights on the next season. Well,

693
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: and I think that's a fair point. They certainly were

694
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: not very aggressive this offseason. I mean you look at

695
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: pretty much Dwayne Allen and Eric Rowe were their main additions,

696
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: and no coincidence, Armando, both of those guys have ties

697
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: to the Patriots with Brian Flores. So it's an extremely

698
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: small world, as you well know, given what's transpired this

699
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: off season. But I want to still stay on the

700
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. No matter who is going

701
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: to make the majority of the starts, whether it be

702
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh Rosen, A lot of it is

703
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: gonna depend on. Okay, what does this receiving corps bring

704
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: to the table. And you know last year, Armando, they

705
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: had a number of injuries, specifically DeVante Parker, who was

706
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: brought back small deal, approved deal. How big is this

707
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: year for a guy like DeVante Parker, not just for

708
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: the sake of the Dolphins offense, but for his individual

709
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: career moving forward. You know, it's interesting that you would

710
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: uh pick out the Dolphins receivers. That's actually one of

711
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: the areas of the team. That's that's solid, that's that's

712
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: pretty good. Uh. DeVante has is the former first round pick.

713
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: He has not lived up to that status. They brought

714
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: him back in approve it kind of deal. If he

715
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: doesn't work out this year, this will be the last

716
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 1: year with the Dolphins. Um and they did it for cheap.

717
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: He agreed to do it for cheap. He has all

718
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: the tools. He should be good, but something has been

719
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: missing and I don't know what it is. He was

720
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: better his you know, the month of December his rookie

721
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: year that he's ever been since. And his rookie year

722
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: was four and a half, was four years ago. So

723
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you is even in year five, he's

724
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: a project and an uncertain project who should be better

725
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: but hasn't been. Other guys that they've got in the

726
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: receiver corps are pretty good. Kenny Stills has been more

727
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: than solid. Um. You know, they they have uh death there.

728
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: They have guys that they think that they like. It's

729
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: one of those situations where if Albert Wilson who was

730
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: a playmaker last year until he got hurt. Stays healthy,

731
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: then that'll be good. If um, you know, I guess

732
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: Bryce Butler, who's a good backup veteran. If he stays healthy,

733
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: that'll be good. They got guys that they like. Jackie

734
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: Grant is a former six seventh round pick. He's very fast,

735
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: he makes a lot of dynamic plays. If he stays healthy,

736
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: that'll be very good. The point is, of all the

737
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: I guess the rooms that they have at the facility

738
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: where the players meet. The receiver room is you know,

739
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: not exactly an exclamation point, but they're okay. They can

740
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: actually win with some of those guys, whereas the other

741
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: positions not so much. Well, let's go to one of

742
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: those other positions. Kenyan Drake is is the lead running

743
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: back returning it. You know, I think he's a good,

744
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: solid NFL back. But if if they're gonna pin, I

745
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: think we just lost him. Appear as we have lost.

746
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: So we'll try to get Armando back on the line

747
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: as we can continue our discussion as we were getting

748
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: towards the question marks on offense and you know running game,

749
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: which you brought up. Yeah, Kenyan Drake is the main

750
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: guy because Frank Gore is no longer on the team. Well,

751
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: speaking of old guys, they're moving in the direction of

752
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: a younger but the roster. But let's face it, in

753
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: in limited action, because Drake has never been a workhorse

754
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: for this Dolphins team. He has performed well. He has

755
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: absolutely unt and and let's let's get to Armando. We

756
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: get him, We get him right back on the line

757
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: after that electronic glitch, Armando, What I was Armando talking

758
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: about the weakness of the Dolphins and that's what happens

759
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: when switched forward down in Miami kind of cut him off, Armando,

760
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: I was gonna say exactly, but but but certainly as

761
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: a as a mid range number of ball carrier, Kenyan

762
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: Drake has has been rather productive. The question becomes can

763
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: he be come the quote lead back for this offense?

764
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: And you know, if not, doesn't that become even more

765
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: of a problem as you try to develop some type

766
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: of passing game to give Josh Rosen a chance. Yeah. Look,

767
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: so Adam Gates, who is now in New York with

768
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: the Jets, he had Kenyan Drake uh in TV and

769
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: decided that's the guy that I'm going to ride after

770
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: they traded um, you know, a GI j G I

771
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: who had the previous years gained yards. So they trade

772
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 1: a gy and in the final six game seven games

773
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: of the season, Kenyan Drake goes off and he gains

774
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards and it looks great. Last year, Kenyan

775
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Drake comes in and he's supposed to be buck Eye,

776
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: and after about a game and a half he's a

777
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: third down back. And the reason is Kenyan Drake is

778
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: a home run hitter, but like many home run hitters,

779
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: he strikes out a lot. And so what happens is

780
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: he he can lose three four yards m two carries

781
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 1: and then go seventy five yards on the next carry.

782
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: But the Dolphins couldn't overcome the two or three yard

783
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: losses that he would invariably get, uh you know, every

784
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: time he touched the football. And the reason he did

785
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: is because he was kind of going off on his

786
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: own and not necessarily hitting the hole he's supposed to.

787
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: So they couldn't move the sticks to keep you know,

788
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: extending drives, to keep giving the ball to Kenyan Drake

789
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: to wait for that seventy five yard run. It was

790
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: one of those you know, chicken and the egg things

791
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: who came first, the seventy five yard runs or the

792
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: three and out, and so they turned him into a

793
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: third down back, made Frank Gore their guy who was

794
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: not remarkable, but they knew he was going to get

795
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: four yards and if they gave him the ball three times,

796
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: they were going to have a first down. That was

797
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: the thing with Kenyan Drake. That continues to be the

798
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: thing with Kenyan Drake. Can he discipline himself to where

799
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: is he's hitting the hole that he's supposed to hit

800
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: or is he going to go off on his own

801
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: and try to be the home run hitter? And sometimes

802
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 1: it works and sometimes it does well. There's only one, say,

803
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley, Amando, just just so, just so that's very

804
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: clear we're talking with, Yeah, absolutely, we're talking with Armando Salguero,

805
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: who covers the Dolphins for the Mammy Harold, the Dolphins

806
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: insider and the running game, the quarterback all dependent on

807
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: the offensive line and trying to get those three to

808
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: four yards that you were just talking about, Armando. And

809
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: they let je On James walk. He's now with the

810
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. So Jordan's Mills comes in at the right

811
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: tackle position. I know, Laramie Tunzil, that's still hoping for

812
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: him to you know, develop into perhaps that Pro Bowl

813
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: All pro S type of offensive lineman. What's the outlook

814
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: of this offensive line group which has some veterans yet

815
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: also some question marks, right, so I would say that

816
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: it's four question marks. And Laramie Tunsil, Larremyunsel obviously is

817
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: not a pro bowler. Okay, so not yet. But is

818
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: he a good player? Is he a really good player? Yeah?

819
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: He is that, He's absolutely that, and he happens to

820
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: be a really good player at a premium position, like

821
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned, left tackle. The problem is everybody else. Uh.

822
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: They did lose Juwan James to the Denver Broncos and

823
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: free agency, and you remember earlier we were talking about

824
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: how tanking organically, Uh, you know, if you lose somebody,

825
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: you sign some buddy. They lost a pretty good player

826
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: to Denver and then waited three months and in the

827
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: back end the free agency they signed Jordan Mills. And

828
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: Jordan Mills is fine. The first day of you know,

829
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: mini camp, the second day of mini camp, he's running

830
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: with the second team. And that's been the history with

831
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: Jordan Mills. He's on again. Off again. There's a reason

832
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: why he was available in May in free agency, and

833
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: the reason is he's not great. He's not good. He's

834
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: just a guy. And that's what the off season has

835
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: looked like in in a nutshell for the Dolphins in

836
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: many respects outside of the draft, they took a step

837
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: back rather than a step forward. All right, let's flip

838
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: at the defense before we let you go, Armando A

839
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: three guys who am particularly interested in the first round

840
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: draft picked Christian Wilkins, very high, highly rated defensive tackle

841
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: coming out of this past draft. And obviously Michael Fitzpatrick,

842
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: who we all thought very very much of going back

843
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: when he was the first round pick prior to the

844
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: last season. And then Kiko Alonso, who another guy who

845
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: has had a lot of a lot of headlines over

846
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: the course of his career and at times has been

847
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: very productive. Then of course, you know he winds up

848
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: coming over from the Eagles in that deal last year. Uh.

849
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: Those three guys are are they the heart and soul

850
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: of what this defense is going to try to be? Yeah,

851
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: Wilkins is going to be, you know, uh, supposed to

852
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: be a future cornerstone and from all accounts so far,

853
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: so good, So I'm not too worried about him. He's

854
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: gonna be good. He's gonna be fine. That's a good player.

855
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: Uh Minka Fitzpatrick who was theeen first round pick. Another cornerstone,

856
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: another good player. They need to find a place to

857
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: put him though, because they've got him this a season

858
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: working at check this out, uh Nickels outside corner, uh

859
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: Strong safety, free safety, and some linebacker. That that seems

860
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: to be a trend though in the NFL. You know that, Ormando,

861
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: we're seeing that a lot more because teams seem to

862
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: think that, Okay, if we've got this multidimensional Swiss Army

863
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: knife of a safety who can play two, three, four's,

864
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: five spots, even some outside linebacker, right, that seems to

865
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: be the trend nowadays with these coordinators. So I don't

866
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: know if the Dolphins are unique in that way, No,

867
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: absolutely there. You know, one of the words that that

868
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: ring in my head even in the off season is multiple.

869
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a multiple defense. We have multiple players

870
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: that do multiple schemes that they do well. They got multiple.

871
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be multiple because coordinators think that

872
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: multiple equals good in the dictionary. At least that's that's

873
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: what they're trying to sell you on. We'll see how

874
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, when you have Tom Rady and you and

875
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is helping multiple works, We'll see. We'll see. Uh.

876
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: So there's that, and then the last thing you mentioned,

877
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: k goes. He goes a good soul and a good player,

878
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: and he's a good professional. He prepares, he's ready on

879
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: game day. He never misses a practice. As far as

880
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: being down here is concerned. I know he's had injuries

881
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: other other places. He's not the problem, I guess is

882
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: is what I would say to you. He's part of

883
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: the solution, not the problem. Well, big theme on defense,

884
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: and this goes to tie into the tanking theme that

885
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: you've been weaving into this conversation, Armando, is where exactly

886
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: is the pass rush going to be coming from for

887
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins this season? And the reason I bring

888
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: that up it's similar to the conversations were having about

889
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: the Giants, Armand You'll lose Robert Quinn, you lose Cameron

890
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: Wake this offseason. They combined for twelve and a half

891
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: of the team's thirty one sacks last season. Okay, so

892
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: you mentioned Christian Wilkins, But in all seriousness, I mean,

893
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: who's stepping up, Who's gonna be that guy that consistently

894
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: gets after the quarterback. I was looking through the numbers

895
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: on Mondo. I mean, you're lucky if you find five

896
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: to six career sacks between all the guys on the

897
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: defensive front. Yeah, I don't know. That's their problems. And well,

898
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: I was hoping you have some answers. Is absolutely correct,

899
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: And one day during the off season, Brian Flores was

900
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: painted that exact picture and his answer was, I'm happy

901
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: with our pass rushing man. That's what I had. Coach

902
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: is supposed to say, right, of course, he's not gonna say,

903
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, we suck. We've got no pressure on

904
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback. But it's not November yet, it's not October yet,

905
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: it's not December yet. You can get away with saying

906
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: that now. But look more at the stuff that they

907
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: do rather than the stuff that they say. Midway through Um,

908
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: they're O T A s. And just before their mini

909
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: camp they signed Nate Orchard, who was cut in Cleveland

910
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: because you know, they didn't think highly enough of him

911
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: to be a good pass rusher, who was cut in

912
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: Buffalo for the same reason, and now he's the guy

913
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: that the Dolphins think might be an answer. My point

914
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: to you is this, they need help, and they got

915
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: rid of Cameron Wake and I get it. You know,

916
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: he's thirty seven years old, but he's thirty seven years

917
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: old and he had, you know, seventeen sacks the last

918
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: two years. So I like thirty seven year olds that

919
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: have seventeen sacks in two years and really don't make

920
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Armando. Does someone want to tell

921
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: the Miami front office that Orchard has only five career

922
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: sacks like their pass ushers? Okay, okay, okay, just the

923
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: guys bring up I don't want to hear fact. Okay,

924
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: don't let facts ruin a good narrative, as they always say. Wow,

925
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: well last one for me, Armando, before we let you

926
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: go on the defensive front, you talked about makea Fitzpatrick

927
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: and then trying to move him around. You know, they

928
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: also have Rashad Jones, who has been a big staple

929
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: of their secondary Xavien Howard. They gave a big monster

930
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: contract extension too, and then they bring in Eric Row

931
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: on the free agency front. Given all the questions in

932
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: the front in terms of getting after the quarterback. What's

933
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: your assessment though with the secondary overall? Can that you,

934
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: in your opinion, make up and counter what they're lacking

935
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: in the past. Rush H Well, I would say Xavian

936
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: Howard can. He's an elite cornerback in the NFL and

937
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 1: he's getting paid like it as well now, so he's

938
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: not the issue. The issue is the other boundary. And

939
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: that's where you mentioned Derek. Do we lose Armando? I

940
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 1: think we lost him and he lost him again second time,

941
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: and he was actually talking about the positive aspects of

942
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: the Dolphins last time was on the negative. Damn, damn.

943
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: You could probably just thank him, maybe, maybe see if

944
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: we could get him back on the line, bring him

945
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: back and thank him, because it doesn't sound like the

946
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: the positive conversation would have taken more than fifteen seconds anyway,

947
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: and we're just about running to the end of our program. Look,

948
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: it's quite clear based on our conversation with him that

949
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: when the Giants play the Dolphins on December, which is

950
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: week fifth scene of the of the schedule, Uh, it

951
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: doesn't sound much like that's going to be a Dolphins

952
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: team very interested to coming into MetLife Stadium and playing

953
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: their butts off to get a win. Let's put it

954
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: that way. It just doesn't sound like, well, there's clearly

955
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks surrounding that team. That's the

956
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: biggest table. That may be a wounded team, a tired team,

957
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: team that might be a little bit disinterested. Uh. Certainly. Uh.

958
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 1: If you look at the Giant schedule in the final

959
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: month of the season, that would be the softer of

960
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: the opponents that would remain. Of course, now it depends

961
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: on how the Giants look at that point too, depending

962
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: on you know, what is going to be meaningful. But

963
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: this is what I will always say about the picture

964
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 1: that Armando was painting about the Dolphins. Teams like that, though, Paul,

965
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: regardless of who they're playing, where they are in the standings,

966
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: are dangerous teams because you're putting players on the field

967
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: in all likelihood that later season who have absolutely nothing.

968
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: That is true, and when you put players on that

969
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: have nothing to lose, I think that makes them an

970
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: extremely dangerous team. More so in their home though. You're

971
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: talking about a warm weather climate team that's got to

972
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: come up to MetLife in the middle of December if

973
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: it's cold, and chances are it will be how nasty,

974
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that could take a lot of

975
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: hard out of your real quick it could. Listen, there's

976
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks in terms of what the

977
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 1: Dolphins are gonna look like at that point through the season.

978
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: But we do thank Armando cel Gero from the Miami

979
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: Herald joining us grace. It was a lot of fun

980
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: on the Miami Dolphins. Absolutely well. I mean, he's certainly

981
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: is not gonna go out of his way to paint

982
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: the Rosie picture because there are some question marks and

983
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: that the pass rush when I was looking over the

984
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: numbers a little bit closely, I mean, it reminded me

985
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm not saying it's an identical comparison, but

986
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say the Giants have similar

987
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: questions because of these home known commodities that they're hoping

988
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: again again after the quarterback. And whenever you do that,

989
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: you hope that your secondary can make up for it.

990
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Armando was getting into when we

991
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: lost him. But I think the Dolphins secondary, you can

992
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: argue us a lot more proven commodities than the Giants

993
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: will bringing to the table because the Giants are growing

994
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: lying on a lot of rookies, So with rookies comes

995
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: some question marks. But you know, I think one of

996
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: my biggest takeaways from the conversation about Miami is it

997
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: just goes to show you there are a lot of

998
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: teams around the NFL that don't have a complete story

999
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: in place for the two thousand nineteen season. They've got

1000
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks, they have holes here, they

1001
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: feel they have depth there, and Miami is no different

1002
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: than the Giants and some of the other teams. As

1003
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: we're going to continue to preview the two thousand nineteen campaign,

1004
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: we should get to a couple of tweets before we

1005
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: finish up the show. A. J. Marshall uh says that

1006
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and Xavier Ximenez um the only two Giants

1007
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: who haven't signed their rookie contracts. Do you expect them

1008
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: to be before training camp starts? Well, yeah, because all

1009
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: these guys are slotted. I mean, gone of the days

1010
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: where us as reporters would have to spend the entire

1011
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: summer trying to track down agents and players because you

1012
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: could almost guarantee there was going to be a holdout

1013
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: somewhere along the line, and many times it was going

1014
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: to be the number one pick well with the slotted

1015
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: system that the new cb a UH put into effects

1016
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: several years ago. In fact, it's the best thing. And

1017
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: one of the only things I really like about the

1018
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: last CBA that was signed is that these rookies are slotted,

1019
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: so you have very minute negotiations going on about guaranteed money,

1020
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: about injury protection money, about incentive money. Every one of

1021
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: these guys pretty much knows what the full package is

1022
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: going to be worth the structures in place, which is

1023
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: why there were no holdouts anymore, very few. I mean

1024
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: Joey bos is one guy that comes to mind, but

1025
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: that was because of the offset language in the contract,

1026
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: which is sometimes the miniscule stuff. Minuscule stuff, and if

1027
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: a guy does happen to miss a day or two, max,

1028
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: that's it. You know, it used to be here's a

1029
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: go man. It could go weeks, oh of course, and

1030
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: it can be training camp, and it could be multiple

1031
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: rookies because one guy is waiting for another guy to

1032
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: take care of his contract. Rae Kwon Smith, by the way,

1033
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 1: is another one that comes to mind for the Bears.

1034
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: He was also a recent holdout, but to your point,

1035
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: far and few compared to what it was like under

1036
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: the old c b A, where rookies were making monster money.

1037
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about the contract Sam Bradford got,

1038
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: and that's one of the reasons why, by the way

1039
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: they made it that the veterans are going to get

1040
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 1: more money than the rookies in the long run. Yeah,

1041
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: So we get Clayton Harding, who really confuses himself, says, uh,

1042
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: I don't know that they'll be better without O. B J.

1043
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: But they can be effective. Talking about the receivers, which

1044
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: was the question we were talking about on ESPN earlier, right,

1045
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: he says, they played sixteen to the last thirty two

1046
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: games without him, so it's not new. And now they

1047
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: have a better D line and that are better O

1048
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: line and take, both of which are better than when O.

1049
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: B J was out before. Okay, well, that's what we

1050
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: were trying to say, is that you can't put the

1051
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: biggest question on the receivers because it would appear that

1052
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 1: they've got enough in the room to get the job

1053
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: done and to be functional at the very least, maybe

1054
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 1: even better than that. So he kind of he kind

1055
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: of agrees with us there in a roundabout way, and

1056
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: then follows up with another tweet which basically contradicts himself, saying,

1057
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: he disagrees with me that the pass rushes the number

1058
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: two question, not the number one. Well, that's absurd. Obviously

1059
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: the pass rushes the number one question because you just

1060
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: answered it, Uh, Clayton Harding, but yourself by saying the

1061
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: receivers should be good enough there, you know, obviously the

1062
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: pass rushes the number one question. He says the d

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Speaker 1: line is number one. He says the old line is

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Speaker 1: number one. Actually, what he's saying is he's saying that

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Speaker 1: the pass rush he would have put is the number

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Speaker 1: one question. He put pass rush number two. He put

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Speaker 1: old line ahead of pass rush. If you were asking

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Speaker 1: about the major questions around through the giants. So he writes,

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Speaker 1: if it can stay healthy, pass protected open holes, we

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Speaker 1: win eight or more. If not, we don't, no matter

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Speaker 1: what the pass rush does. So he he thinks the

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Speaker 1: old line should be number one, pass rush should be

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Speaker 1: number two. You were talking about pass rush being number one,

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Speaker 1: and I would agree with you. I think the pass

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Speaker 1: rush absolutely is one of the biggest question marks surrounding

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Speaker 1: this team. I think old line is up there. I

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Speaker 1: agree with Clayton. I wouldn't put on line number one.

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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to maybe put old line number

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Speaker 1: two because here's the thing. The Giants made changes on

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Speaker 1: the old line. It's not as if that unit hasn't

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Speaker 1: been addressed. The question is can a guy like Mike

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Speaker 1: Remer's hold up and stay healthy? You know, that's a

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Speaker 1: big thing. How does the chemistry come along between Soldier

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Speaker 1: and Hernandez In year two? Who wins the center job

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Speaker 1: and you know what happens with Zeitler and Members or

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Speaker 1: whoever wins that right tackle job, because nobody has been

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Speaker 1: crowned yet. So there's still question marks on the old line,

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Speaker 1: but some of the questions have been addressed by bringing

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Speaker 1: in new phases. Well, I think we go to that here.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem with this philosoph for you on this,

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Speaker 1: because if the Giants starting five offensive lineman as we

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Speaker 1: see it, stay healthy, that's not a huge question anymore.

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Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, if you're going to

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Speaker 1: play the health card or the injury card, you could

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Speaker 1: play that with almost any position on almost any team.

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Speaker 1: So what you have to say is if the unit

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Speaker 1: is healthy. Okay, Clayton, I want you to to understand this.

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Speaker 1: If the unit is healthy, they should be much better

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Speaker 1: and by far, by far, a much better answer than

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Speaker 1: question this defense, should they're starting eleven be healthy, we

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Speaker 1: still don't know where the pass rush is coming from,

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Speaker 1: even if all eleven starters are healthy. And again, I

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Speaker 1: know we use the words starter liberally because there are

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Speaker 1: so many substitutions. But if if the entire Giants defense

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Speaker 1: stays healthy the entire season, we could sit here for

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Speaker 1: the next two hours and still not tell you with

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Speaker 1: any confidence where the pass rush is coming from. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's put it this way. If you compare the defensive

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Speaker 1: line to the offense line, it's not a stretch to

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Speaker 1: say you have an idea what you're getting from the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. Nate Soldiers approven veteran Zeitler's approven Veteran Remer's

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Speaker 1: has approven veteran. Yes, It's there a small sample size

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Speaker 1: in terms of the center position between pullyan Halapio, yes,

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Speaker 1: and Hernandez is only coming off his rookie years, so

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Speaker 1: I'll give you that. But on the defensive line, Paul

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Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence has yet to play one NFL game, Dalvin

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Speaker 1: Tomlinston is still young. B J. Hill's only coming off

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Speaker 1: his rookie year. So I mean that alone. And then

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Speaker 1: if you want to talk about the edge rushers slash linebackers,

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Speaker 1: whether it be the Zimenez is the Lorenzo Carters of

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Speaker 1: the world, again unproven commanities. So injuring Golden coming off

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Speaker 1: at torn A c l and seventeen. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: just by those facts alone, I put pass rush number

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Speaker 1: one in offensive. I don't even I I wouldn't disagree

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Speaker 1: with you there. I understand why he's saying there's some

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Speaker 1: question marks with the offensive line because listen, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to put words at Clayton's mouth and went maybe

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Speaker 1: Clinic could call in another show because obviously running out

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Speaker 1: of time and we could hash this out. But it

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Speaker 1: is fair to say we haven't seen this offense of

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Speaker 1: line as a unit on the field that we striven

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Speaker 1: seeing that unit, Paul, it's fair to say it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of the land unknown. Hey, it looks great

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Speaker 1: on paper, but you know what, how many times did

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Speaker 1: you talk about football teams that look great on paper,

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Speaker 1: NBA teams, NHL teams and it doesn't come to fruition

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Speaker 1: resume that shows some substance. And that's my point. That's

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Speaker 1: my point. On paper, the proven resume, not to proven

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Speaker 1: Giants resume the proven resume over the course of an

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Speaker 1: NFL career exactly. With that being said, that's gonna wrap

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Speaker 1: up our program. Appreciate Armando sal Gero from providing some

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Speaker 1: inside on the Dolphins. You the listeners, whether it be

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Speaker 1: on the phones on Twitter, We're gonna continue to preview teams.

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Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers is going to be up tomorrow

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Speaker 1: as we transition to the NFC Big Blue Kickoff Lives

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Speaker 1: always presented by Cores Light for Paul to Tina on

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Speaker 1: Lance Meadow. Thanks so much for tuning into Monday's edition

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Speaker 1: to the program. Stay locked the Giants dot com for

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Speaker 1: all the latest and we'll speak to you tomorrow. I

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Speaker 1: have a go one