1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We've 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: got some good news and some awful news. So I 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: will start with the good news. Early this morning, the 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: big beautiful Bill passed the House of Representatives two fifteen 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: to to fourteen. It is now on to the United 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: States Senate, where expectations are that it will pass at 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: some point in the next month and become the law 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: of the land. More flexibility in the United States Senate 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: because it's a little bit better of a majority fifty 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: three forty seven than what Mike Johnson was working with 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: on a regular basis in the House of Representatives. So 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: all of that very very positive news that happened early 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: this morning. Unfortunately, an awful thing happened late last night 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: in our nation's capital when too young, soon to be 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: engaged individuals, one from Kansas, the other from Jerusalem. It's 18 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: an awful story. The man in this relationship was planning 19 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: to propose, had already bought her a ring, and they 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: were shot and killed in cold antisemitic blood on the 21 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 2: streets of our nation's capital. And this is what globalized 22 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: the Intifada leads to this is why everyone on a 23 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: college campus that has been moronically walking around saying globalize 24 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: the into fada. This is what they are calling for. 25 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: This is, unfortunately what happens in Israel. Quite often, a 26 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: terrorist comes up and kills someone because they happened to 27 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: be Jewish, and it felt sadly inevitable, inevitable to me 28 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: that this would occur. But here is I want to 29 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: play the audio because there's no uncertainty about exactly what happened. 30 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Here. 31 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: Here is the individual who will soon be charged with 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: the crime if he has not already been shouting free, 33 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: free Palestine after he murdered two Israeli diplomats on the 34 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: streets of Washington, d C. 35 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: Here's cut too, so. 36 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: There's no uncertainty about what his motives are. This is 37 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: a chant that has been screamed loudly on college campuses 38 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: everywhere in many different American streets by people who claim 39 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: that Israel is the bad guy in the wake of 40 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: October seventh. Let me make sure that you know these individuals' names. 41 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: This is the Israeli ambassador Yekel Leiter discussing these victims 42 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: and talking about his conversation with President Trump. 43 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: The young man purchased the ring this week with the 44 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: intention of proposing to his girlfriend next week in Jerusalem. 45 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: They were a beautiful couple who came to enjoy an 46 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: evening in Washington's Cultural Center. On the way in this 47 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: BONDI was kind enough to hand me on the phone 48 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: and the other line was the President of the United States, 49 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, who told me that his administration is going 50 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: to do everything it can possibly do to fight and 51 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: end anti Semitism and the hatred that's being directed the 52 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: demonization and delegitimization of the state of Israel. 53 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Buck, you and I I don't think, sadly are surprised. 54 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: I was just about getting ready to go to bed 55 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: when the alert popped up on my phone late last night, 56 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: a little bit after midnight, and to me it felt 57 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: inevitable based on the way that the United States, many 58 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: people in the United States, on the left in particular, 59 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: but all so, there's people on the right who are 60 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: anti Semitic. This is where I would say the left 61 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: and the right unfortunately sometimes have agreement, but it's far 62 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: more pronounced, certainly on the left wing right now anti 63 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: anti Semitism is and this to me is a natural 64 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: result of being unable to distinguish between good and evil, 65 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: such that you then engage in evil acts yourself because 66 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: you believe you're doing something that is right and just. 67 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: And this is the importance of being able to teach 68 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: right and wrong. And unfortunately, the younger you are in 69 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: this country, the more likely you are to buy into 70 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: the idea that the Israeli state is the bad guy here. 71 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: We recognize that. First of all, I just it's heartbreaking 72 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: to see this. And I sit here and just say 73 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: that murdering a beautiful couple like this in cold blood 74 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: outside a social event, I don't know what could be 75 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: more demonic senseless. And you know, it's interesting to me 76 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: that the media, whenever there is a anything that they 77 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: can say how somehow involves right wing ideology, they'll speak 78 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: of something called and we've discussed it on the show 79 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: stochastic terrorism. So numerically random terrorism is effectively what it 80 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: is like if you do this enough, if you spread 81 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: this message enough, somebody will commit an active terrorism. They'll 82 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: talk about that if they can say that this is 83 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: somehow racist right wing ideology. Meanwhile, the left is soaked 84 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: in anti Israel, anti Semitic hatred, top to bottom, day 85 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: in and day out. It's in the media, it's on campuses. 86 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: They're safe harbor given and platform given to it in 87 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. And we are just to think that 88 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: this now happens in some kind of vacuum. You know, 89 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: this comes up Clay when we have the discussions of 90 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: they can't say that Trump is Hitler, but they oppose 91 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: violence against Trump. That doesn't really make sense, does it. 92 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: If you believe that Trump was Hitler, which is an 93 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: insane person statement, but the Democrats have said at countless 94 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: times as we know. But if you truly believed that, 95 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: then you would want to do anything to remove that 96 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: threat from the United States. And of course we saw 97 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: that two people tried in the election cycle, and one 98 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: put a bullet through Trump's ear. If you truly believe 99 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: that there is a genocide going on in Gaza, first 100 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: of all, you can't read or you can't process information, 101 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: because this wouldn't be a long and drawn out war. 102 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: If it was a genocide, Israel could just flatten all 103 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: of Gaza in a matter of days, no offens or butts, 104 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: and that would be the end. Of it. They could 105 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: kill every man, women and child in Gaza if they 106 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: chose to do so. The reason the war is taking 107 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: so long as first and foremost Gaza, I mean Hamas, 108 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: and the Gazins refuse to release civilian hostages that were 109 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: taken at the start of this war in the horrible 110 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: October seventh terrorist massacre. So to me, there is such 111 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: an inversion of morality that goes on here. And I 112 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: point this out as well, Clay, because you know you 113 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: said this yesterday. I've been advancing this point on the 114 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: show as much as I can because I started out 115 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: in Middle East studies in my life back in college 116 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: working the Arab Israeli working on the Arab Israeli issue. 117 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: My first ever real internship was for Dennis Ross, the 118 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: US ambassador under Clinton for the Arab Israeli peace Accords. 119 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: So I've been following this for a very long time 120 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: and I'm aware of a lot of the different dynamics. 121 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: But in this country it has turned into a shrill 122 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: left wing rallying cry, absent facts and just full of hatred, 123 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: and that results in things like we've seen on the campuses, 124 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: which is which is completely disgusting. And then can even 125 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: result in things like this. I would want to ask 126 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: these individuals who are on the campuses. I want to 127 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: ask the people who are always talking about the genocide 128 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: and Gaza, where are they on the genocide? And I 129 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: know it sounds like a what about isn't to some 130 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: people they want to make that claim, Clay, where's the 131 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: talk about the genocide going on in South Sudan? Or 132 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: is it every Do they care about every human life 133 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: and depression? Do they care about hospitals being bombed? How 134 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: many of them even know that the hospitals just bombed 135 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: in South Sudan. They have no idea. They don't pay 136 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: any attention because that is a fight among a lot 137 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: of different ethnic groups, but Arab Muslims, Black Africans, there's 138 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: no white people involved. And when there's no white people involved, 139 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: even though four hundred thousand people have died, there have 140 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: been mass rapes, there has been ethnic cleansing. I mean, 141 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: the most horrific stuff imaginable. It's been going on for 142 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: over a decade, I might add. And yet none of 143 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: the people that are walking around with cafaas on talking 144 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: about how every life matters and stop genocide. You don't 145 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: know a damn thing about it. You know why, because 146 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: they're costplaying as revolutionaries and they're just feeding in to 147 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: this anti white narrative that they think somehow explains the 148 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: Israel Hamas war. And that is how stupid they are, 149 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: and that is how malevolent their ideology is, and it 150 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: results in things like we saw last night. I think 151 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: all that's very well said. 152 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: I know there are maybe some people out there with kids' 153 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: grandkids that don't get this. Let me give you two 154 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: things that I think are very simple that you can 155 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: share with them and ask them to think about. One 156 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: is And I was over in December, and I don't 157 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: remember who told me this, but I've heard it repeated since. 158 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: But the first time I heard it was in Israel. 159 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: And it is this. If Israel put down its weapons, 160 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: it wouldn't exist tomorrow. If every other country in the 161 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: Middle East that hates Israel put down its weapons, there 162 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: would be peace in the Middle East. Israel is not 163 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: the progressor. Israel is trying to protect itself and most 164 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: of its foes want Israel, as you saw in October seventh, 165 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: waped the Jewish people in Israel wiped off the face 166 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: of the earth. That's what from the river to the 167 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: sea means. So that's an easy one that I think 168 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,359 Speaker 2: is that everybody can grasp. And two is another analogy 169 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: we have made, and I think it's a good one 170 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: because people sometimes say, Okay, well, why do you care? 171 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 2: How do you decide who's good who's bad. Well, I 172 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: was there in all the kibbutz's where all the innocent 173 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: people were murdered when Hamas decided to come into Israel 174 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: and rape and pillage and murder across a wide expanse. 175 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: But I want you to think about this when Biden 176 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 2: had our southern border wide open, or even now, if 177 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 2: somehow it were to occur, if a Mexican terror organization 178 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: came across our southern border and killed twelve hundred Americans 179 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 2: and kidnapped hundreds of them and went back into Mexico 180 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: and claimed that they shouldn't be attacked because women and 181 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: children might be harmed, what would we do to the 182 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: part of Mexico that the terrorists were in. 183 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: Fuck? 184 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: You would say, Ia, what do you think we would 185 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: do if they killed twelve hundred Americans went back across 186 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: their border and had hundreds of hostages. 187 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: Well, I joined the CIA because of nine to eleven, 188 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: So we could even use a more direct historical analogy here. 189 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: I think that October seventh was Israel's nine to eleven. Yeah, 190 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: and I think very clearly, and as a matter of percentages, 191 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: I think it might even be higher than nine to eleven. Oh, 192 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: infinitely infinitely higher because the Israeli population so much smaller. 193 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: So when you factor this out, yeah, after nine to eleven, 194 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, I will add, By the way, there's actually 195 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: a pretty good hunt for bin Laden on Netflix if 196 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: anyone's curious to look for something that's it's pretty well done. 197 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: My old friend Gary Burnson, who led the Jawbreaker team 198 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: is on it. Mike Morrell, whom I work for in 199 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: the CIA, who's a Lib and a Hillary guy. But 200 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: you know, there's some people that were there doing the 201 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: doing the work, and they're pretty good. But Clay people, 202 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: I think, I think sometimes leave this part out of 203 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: our response. After nine eleven, we said to the Taliban, Okay, 204 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: you guys have him, you hand him over or else. 205 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: They chose or else. Yeah, we had no choice. There 206 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: is no choice because the choice to not do anything 207 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: would be the choice to let evil win. And Hama 208 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: and Israel has the same choice after October seventh. And 209 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: this is the you know, this is where I get 210 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: very frustrated because there are people out there who think 211 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: themselves clever because somehow the only thing they ever have 212 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: a problem with is a response to terrorism. Yeah, it's 213 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: always the response isn't good enough. It's a little bit 214 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: like arguing with somebody who's wrong and just says I 215 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: don't like your tone. I don't like your tone. Well, 216 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: how are we going to is it? Who's right is 217 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: what matters? Okay, you can complain about my tone all day. 218 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: And amaspought this war upon themselves. They could have ended 219 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: this war after October seventh, for months and months and months, 220 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: given the hostages back and had an unconditional surrender. They 221 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: chose not to do it. They don't just hold Israeli's hostage, 222 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: They hold themselves hostage. That's the problem. They've decided we 223 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: would rather light ourselves on fire as a people in 224 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: Gaza than join civilization and stop this madness. 225 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal last weekend had a peace that I 226 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: thought was important. 227 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: I shared it. 228 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: People say, why did Hamas do it? Well, certainly they're 229 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: horrible anti Semites, right, they want Israel wiped off and 230 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: the Jewish people wiped off the planet. But in particular, 231 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: the timing of October seventh seems to have been directly 232 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 2: tied to fear that Saudi Arabia was going to normalize 233 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: relations with Israel and that would lead to more peace 234 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: in the Middle East, and they didn't want that to 235 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: happen because they thought that would undercut their political posture. 236 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: So the reason they stay attacked on October seven was 237 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: they were trying to stop peace from spreading even more 238 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: substantially in the Middle East. They're evil, and I think 239 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 2: you saw the motivation and any of you out there 240 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: with kids or grandkids walking around saying globalize the Intifada, 241 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: I think that they are so poorly educated that they 242 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: do not even understand how much of morons they truly are. Look, 243 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna talk more about this. We're gonna go to 244 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: Israel and talk with Yel Extein, she works at the 245 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: International Fellowship of Christians and Jews about what the reaction 246 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: is in Israel, which I'm sure is widely discussed and 247 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: was crushing to so many people over there to hear 248 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: that two young, innocent people who were soon to be 249 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: engaged were murdered in cold blood for being Jewish. This 250 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: is why, you know, our friend Carol Mark Whiz tweeted 251 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: that Jews need to go buy as many guns as 252 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: they can. And she in particular, she's on a plane, 253 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: or she'd be with us today. Maybe we can get 254 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: her on tomorrow. But she in particular Buck you know this, 255 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: went and taught herself how to fire a gun after 256 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: October seventh. And there are a lot of women out 257 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: there and popular I took her out and taught her 258 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: how to fire guns. We took her out for a 259 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: range day so that she knew how to defend herself. 260 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: So many people are like this. 261 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I talked about when I was in Israel, 262 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: I met a woman who's working with the IFCJ. Young 263 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: mom walks around with a handgun on her hip everywhere 264 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: she goes. Now, she was in the hospital having just 265 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: delivered a baby on October seventh, and her mom was 266 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: killed on October seventh. Her brothers had to go rescue her, 267 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: her husband who was holding the butcher knife right by 268 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: the door to try to stab people if they came 269 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: in to kill their infant children. I mean, this is 270 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: the reality of what people in Israel deal with every 271 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: day and unfortunately globalize, the Intifada has spread here. If 272 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: you want to educate, you want people to learn more, 273 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: trust me, just go to IFCJ dot org. You can 274 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: learn click there so you can talk to the kids 275 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: and grandkids in your family. Please just trust me. IFCJ 276 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: dot org go learn what is going on, what Israel 277 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: is having to deal with and trying to defend itself 278 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: and it's very existence. IFCJ dot org is that website. 279 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: Click to learn tab IFCJ dot org. All right, welcome 280 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: back into Clay and Buck. 281 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: We've been talking to you about this terrible, this heinous 282 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: double assassination of to a young Jewish couple about to 283 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: get engaged at in our nation's capital last night, and 284 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: this is should be the easiest thing for anyone in 285 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: American politics to condemn. Let's check in on Ilhan Omar 286 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: for a second member of the United States Congress. Play 287 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: cut seven. 288 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: Congresswoman, can I give your reaction to the shooting that 289 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 4: happened DC last night. I'm going to go for now. 290 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to go for now. Let me let me 291 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: just say something so we're all very clear on this. 292 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: We all know, right, that Ilhan Omar represents the constituency 293 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: a law. I mean, if you did a poll, I'm 294 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: telling you a large percentage of them support what happened 295 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: last night. They say that that's actually what should happen. 296 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: That's the truth. That is the truth. There are people 297 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: who vote for ilan Omar. There are people who vote 298 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: for some of these radical left, anti Israeli members of 299 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: Congress who think that violence is justified. I mean they 300 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: say it on college campuses, right, Why wouldn't this extend 301 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: to other people across the country. 302 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this is the definition of globalized the Intifada. 303 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: I mean, this is what happens in Israel sadly, on 304 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: a regular basis. A terrorist comes up and kills someone 305 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: because they're Jewish. This happens all the time. It's really 306 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: the only crime they have in Israel. And we don't 307 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: see this thing happen thankfully, very often here. But it's inevitable. 308 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: I mean, look, George Washington University, my alma mater, said 309 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 2: Death of the Martyrs on the library and had one 310 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: of the most long lasting campus takeovers of any university 311 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: in the country. They put a CAFAA on George Washington 312 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: in the center of the campus. It's sadly not a 313 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 2: surprise to me. I think that Washington, DC is probably 314 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: one of the most anti Semitic cities in America. 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Senator, we saw the big beautiful bill pass 333 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: by one vote in the House to fifteen to two fourteen. 334 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 2: I believe it is now onto the United States Senate. 335 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: What happens there now? What should we know about, what 336 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: the process is in the Senate? What you want to see? 337 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 4: But you know, there's some good and some bad to 338 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 4: the bill. The good is the tax cuts. You know, 339 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 4: I've supported these in twenty seventeen. Some of them will 340 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 4: be making permanent and some of them will be adding 341 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 4: to I'm very supportive of that. I'm supportive of spending cuts. 342 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 4: I think the spending cuts are wimpy, anemic, and unfortunately 343 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 4: it won't do much to change the course of the 344 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 4: country towards a more fiscal physically responsible path. The thing 345 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 4: I'll really object to, though, and that prevents me from 346 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 4: supporting it at this point, is that it adds either 347 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 4: four or five trillion, depending on which version you look 348 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 4: at to the debt ceiling. This will be an historic 349 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: increase in the debt ceiling. We've never added this much 350 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: at one time, and frankly concern have never voted to 351 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: these things. Typically they've been passed by Democrats and sort 352 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: of the big government Republicans are forced to get together. 353 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 4: I always called it a day of shame. They had 354 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 4: to go down on the well and admit that there's 355 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 4: big spending plans had caused the debt to rise alarmingly. 356 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: But now it's conservatives voting for it. And my fear 357 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 4: is is that this will be the end of fiscal 358 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 4: conservatism here and in the country because there's very few 359 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 4: I mean, there were one or two in the House 360 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 4: that oppose this because the debt grows too much. Right now, 361 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 4: it's just me in the Senate, and it's not because 362 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 4: I opposed Donald Trump or not because I opposed that 363 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 4: the tax cuts or any of the spending cuts. But 364 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 4: I just don't think we should be the party that 365 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 4: raises the debt ceiling five trillion dollars. You know, come September, 366 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 4: the deficit this year is going to be about two 367 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: point two trillion. That's all Republican now, because Republicans have 368 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 4: voted for these spending levels, they're anticipating two point eight 369 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 4: to three trillion next year. That's just not conservative and 370 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 4: somebody's got to be left in the country wholes break 371 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 4: truth to power that we'll say, basically, we're supposed to 372 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 4: be the Conservative Party. 373 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: Senator Paul Are we at a point where we just 374 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: need to be honest as a country that if there 375 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: is no political will to change alter whatever somebody wants 376 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: to say about it, social Security, medicare, medicaid, maybe really 377 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: just medicare that in that equation, and defense spending is 378 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: not going to get cut, if anything, that's going to 379 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: go up. We're not going to tackle the debt, right, 380 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, is that mathematically what we are stuck with? 381 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: Is there some other way? I just worry that this 382 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: is you know, I remember when you came in on 383 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: the tea party wave. We've been talking about this issue 384 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: for a long time. There's a bit of fatigue over guys. 385 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: The debt bomb is ticking. The debt bomb is ticking, 386 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: and everyone goes, oh my gosh, let's do something about it. 387 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: You go, okay, maybe we need to reform entitlements. They go, 388 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: you're out of office. 389 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I've been pretty honest with it, 390 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 4: you know, since I was elected. When I was running 391 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 4: for the office the first time I said, those securities, 392 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 4: running out of money, those Medicare, and we're moving longer. 393 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: We're going to have to gradually raise the age of eligibility. 394 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 4: And I would laughingly say, you know, people would say, 395 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 4: do you hate old people? And I say, no, I 396 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 4: aspire a vehicle person. You know, I'm on my way. 397 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 4: I you know, I want to collect my Social Security, 398 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 4: my Medicare. And so in order to save these systems, 399 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 4: they have to be reformed. But when we take them 400 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 4: off the table and we present deficits as big as 401 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 4: the Biden deficits are bigger, we're just as guilty, and 402 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 4: we no longer can point to them as all these 403 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 4: are the Biden deficits or the Biden inflation that came 404 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 4: from the deficits. We'll be looking in the mirror because 405 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 4: we'll have the responsibility now. And I just I think 406 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 4: there still needs to be a conservative resistance against big 407 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 4: spending and against debt. And it is important. Our interest 408 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: rates about a trillion dollars and our interest payments about 409 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 4: a trillion dollars a year. But interest rates are still 410 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 4: edging up. You know, the interest rate for thirty years 411 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 4: at five percent. So we are gradually turning over into 412 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 4: a higher interest rate, and it's going to crowd out 413 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 4: all spending. At some point in time, the deficit for 414 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 4: this year will equal to budget. Congress votes on a 415 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 4: discretionary budget of about one point eight to two trillion dollars. 416 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 4: That's equal to the deficit, which means one hundred percent 417 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 4: of the budget we vote on will be borrowed this year. 418 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 4: So this should not be about allegiance to Donald Trump. 419 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 4: I like the President, I voted for him, I support him, 420 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 4: and I'm with him on so many things, his cabinet, 421 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: Maha movement, all that stuff. But it doesn't mean we 422 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: should quit being physically conservative and asking the difficult questions 423 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 4: about are we full big debt? Are we not for it? 424 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 4: Are we different than the Democrats when it comes to 425 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 4: deficit spending? And right now we're looking kind of like 426 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 4: the Democrats as far as a result. 427 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: We're talking to Senator ram Paul. I want to build 428 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: on what Buck said because I do think it's interesting 429 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: the Tea Party movement started. You can correct me if 430 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: I'm wrong, because I may be a little bit off, 431 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: but I think I'm right. When under Obama the national 432 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: debt approach ten trillion since that time, we have nearly 433 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 2: quadrupled the national debt because it's rapidly approaching forty trillion, 434 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: and as you just laid out, you know we're headed 435 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: for fifty trillion, sixty trillion, and it just feels like 436 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: Buck and I talk about this sometimes on the program 437 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 2: because we see the responses when we bring it up. 438 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: You say, hey, this is unsustainable. People say, well, you 439 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: should just cut cost. The problem is if you look 440 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: at the basic math of what medicare cost of, what 441 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: Social Security costs, what the debt costs, and I don't 442 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 2: think most people want to replace national defense, even though 443 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: now we're spending more money servicing the debt on interest 444 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: than we are in national defense. That eliminates about eighty 445 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: six percent issh of the overall budget. Even if you 446 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: cut every other part of the budget, you're still going to, 447 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: as you just laid out, end up in a deficits situation. 448 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: To me, the only possible solution is you have to 449 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 2: address entitlement spending in a significant way. 450 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: And you know this better than anybody. 451 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: It seems like ninety five percent of politicians just say, hey, 452 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: I got to get elected in two years, Hey I 453 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: got to get elected in four years, six years, whatever 454 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: it is, we'll just kick the can down the road 455 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: and pretend that the looming debt crisis doesn't actually exist. 456 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 4: Well, you know, one of the reasons we've put forward 457 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: the Penny Plan budget to balance the budget is to 458 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 4: illustrate that it can be done, and it can be 459 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 4: done by cutting only a few percentage points. But you 460 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 4: have to cut a few percentage points of everything. So 461 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 4: when I started proposing this ten years ago, spending wasn't 462 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 4: nearly as bad, but it was it was headed in 463 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 4: the wrong direction. Ten years ago, you could free spending, 464 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: just don't increase spending. Spend the same amount each year 465 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 4: for five years, and the budget would balance. Then a 466 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 4: couple of years later we called it the Penny plan. 467 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 4: You had to cut one percent across the board of 468 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 4: everything on budget to balance the budget, to balance the 469 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 4: annual budget. Then it became the two penny plan. Then 470 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 4: COVID hit and it became the six penny plan. And 471 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 4: so that's about what we are right now. You'd have 472 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 4: to cut it six percent across the board. But I 473 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 4: tell people, look at it this way. If you still 474 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 4: had ninety four percent, Let's say your big deal is 475 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 4: your brother and grandmother had Alzheimer's disease. You want the 476 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 4: government to do research. So they come into me. They 477 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: all wear purple ribbons, and I have great deal of sympathy. 478 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 4: I have family members who have had and I say 479 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 4: to them, well, you know, we're short of money, and 480 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: you got one hundred million last year, could you live 481 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 4: with ninety four million this year? And every one of 482 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: them they're tearful thinking about their loved ones. They're talking 483 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 4: about something very personal to them, and they look at 484 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: me and they say, well, sure, if the country's short 485 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 4: of money, we could do with ninety four million. And 486 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 4: see that would be the same truth of everybody. Everybody 487 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: would just have to do with ninety four dollars out 488 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 4: of one hundred, and it would be less about eliminating 489 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: anything to anyone, but cutting everybody the six percent and 490 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 4: just saying we've got to do it. You do it. 491 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 4: For a couple of years, we balanced, the country begins 492 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 4: to grow, receipts grow again, and actually governments many could 493 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 4: gradually go up after a while. But I don't know. 494 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: I'm not afraid to do it, and I don't know 495 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 4: that I many less popular than I was when I ran. 496 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 4: You know, I got sixty two percent of the vote 497 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 4: last time in a state that has the significant population 498 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 4: that's dependent on government, and I have great sympathy for them, 499 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: but I want them all to do better. And I say, 500 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 4: I don't want to cut you off Medicaid, don't want 501 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: to get you private health insurance with the private job 502 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 4: and better payment. And so I don't know. I think 503 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 4: people do understand that if you're sincere. I think a 504 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 4: lot of the people that are Weasily and Waffley and 505 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 4: never really commit one way or the other and then 506 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 4: go home and tell everybody there for a balanced budget. 507 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 4: This is a problem with Republicans. It's going to They're 508 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 4: going to lose face, and they're going to lose any 509 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 4: semblance of sincerity because they're going to go home to 510 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 4: the Chamber of Commerce and to the Roadary and talk 511 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 4: about balance budgets next year or this summer. And yet 512 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: the deficit's going to be two point two trillion, and 513 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 4: all of it is responsible to Republicans. Now, this is 514 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 4: no longer the Biden deficit. This will be the GOP deficit. 515 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 4: And in the next two years are going to borrow 516 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 4: five trillion dollars somebody's got to stand up and shout no. 517 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: Well, at least down the line, if this doesn't stop, 518 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: you'll be able to look at all of us when 519 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: we're facing a true financial crisis and say, I did 520 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: tell you guys this is coming. So I know that 521 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: won that will be cold comfort. But you're very much 522 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: on the record with this one. I worry that American 523 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: politics have unfortunately gotten on this unstoppable amusement park ride 524 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: and we're going to run out of track. But anyway, 525 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: I also wanted to ask you something, well, actually, no, 526 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: this is very serious too. I was gonna say, go 527 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: to a lighter direction, but no, not really what you're 528 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: finding about, or what we're all finding out about, really 529 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: the new version of how the Democrats viewed Biden during 530 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: the election, this book that's come out, all of this stuff. 531 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: Where do you come I mean, as a doctor as 532 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: well as somebody who's in politics at a high level. 533 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's really supposed to believe that your Democrat 534 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: colleagues in the Senate didn't know Biden wasn't all there, 535 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: right or what? 536 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 4: No, this is really shocking. You're going to ever can 537 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 4: you believe it that Biden was actually mentally impaired, and 538 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 4: no one knew about it until wrote his book. This 539 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 4: is just shocking. I mean, what great reporting Tapper has 540 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 4: revealed that President Biden was missing a step or two. No, 541 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 4: I mean everybody saw it from miles away. The shuffling gate, 542 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: the absence stare, the you know, looking one way, looking 543 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 4: for people, never really certain of where he was, and 544 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 4: then the rambling incoherent sentences. So you know, and if 545 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 4: it were just someone you knew, you'd feel sorry for them. 546 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 4: But if it were my loved one, I would be 547 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: mad at the family for putting something like that out. 548 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 4: I think actually one of the most insulting things was 549 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 4: Jimmy Carter's family. As Jimmy Carter was dying and really 550 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 4: not conscious, they rolled him out for display of the 551 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 4: cameras after having just voted. And you know, it's a 552 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: sad time. Look, Jimmy Carter wasn't a great president, was 553 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 4: a great humanitarian, I think, and not a bad person 554 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: after the presidency. He should have been remembered for that instead. 555 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 4: I can't shake the image of you know, his mouth open, 556 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: unconscious and his idiot family parading him out there in 557 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 4: front of cameras. To stay just voted. You know, that's 558 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 4: that's kind of what they did to Biden for four years, 559 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: and it would have been much better. And you know, 560 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 4: he could have been remember, you know, I guess at 561 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 4: least just for being a crook, you know, as a 562 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 4: vice president instead of you know, being a bumbling president. 563 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: Do you believe that they found out on Friday that 564 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: he had stage four cancer? 565 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 4: You know maybe? And I don't really fault people as 566 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: much for this. If you've looked into prostate cancer, and 567 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 4: a lot of men have looked into the pros and 568 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 4: cons of the blood testing, it really has evolved and 569 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 4: changed a lot. So they used to have everybody at 570 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 4: forty start taking a PSA, but then they started finding 571 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 4: elevated PSAs and people having a prostage formood, which is 572 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 4: not a benign receiver procedure, and it's sort of unclear 573 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 4: whether they were early cancers that might have stayed and 574 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 4: hidden for dozens of years, and so the numbers of 575 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 4: surgeries of skyrocketed, and then they decided, after seventy you're 576 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 4: more likely to die from something else, they don't take 577 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 4: the PSA at all. And so it's weird because we 578 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 4: all have this mortality, and we like, I'm seventy one, 579 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 4: feel pretty healthy. I think I should get a PSA. 580 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 4: Or I'm eighty two and feel healthy. Maybe I'll get 581 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: a PSA, or maybe I'll just roll the dice. I'm 582 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 4: getting older, I'm going to die from something. So these 583 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 4: are they're difficult and personal decisions. So I don't follow 584 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 4: him for any of that. And I think there is 585 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 4: a chance he didn't know they said he got a 586 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 4: PSA that was probably normal back when he was seventy one, 587 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 4: and it's a slow going cancer, and there's you know, 588 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: he's eighty two or eighty three, and you know, the 589 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 4: downside to the surgeries are a lot of different side 590 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 4: effects from the surgery. Is not a perfect surgery by 591 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 4: any means, And so I don't know. I guess I 592 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 4: don't follow him because I think the decision making process 593 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: is a very personal one that a lot of men 594 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 4: are having to go through. And really it's not an 595 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 4: easy one because it's not what I can. 596 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: To ask you really quickly about doctor pauls or Senator Paul, 597 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: doctor Paul. My own father, by the way, I had 598 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: had to go through this. So a lot of us 599 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: listening it's very it's very personal and exactly what you're 600 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: talking about. But why is this happening to so many? 601 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: This is we're not a point where men are being 602 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: told something like what seventy percent or eighty percent of 603 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: them will have some form of prostate cancer. This can't 604 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: be normal. Do you have any any working theory as 605 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: to what's going on? 606 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 4: Actually, it actually is kind of normal. They've done a 607 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 4: natural study of the natural course of the disease. And 608 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 4: when they do autopsies of men in their seventies who 609 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 4: die for other reasons, you just die. And they take 610 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 4: one hundred people who died and they look at the prostates, 611 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 4: it is like, seventy percent of them have cancer in 612 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 4: the prostate, but never had any symptoms that didn't spread 613 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 4: anywhere in their body, and they died from something else. 614 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 4: That's why it's a difficult decision. If it were just 615 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 4: a breast biopsy or a lumpectomy that they did to 616 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 4: the prostate, you didn't have to worry about all the 617 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 4: other possible problems. It wouldn't be such a big deal. 618 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: But since the surgery is a pretty dramatic thing, you 619 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: obviously don't want to do the surgery on people who 620 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 4: don't need to have it. 621 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so one hundred years ago, we think as many 622 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: men were having this issue as today, I'm asking honestly, 623 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: I have no idea. 624 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, probably, but one hundred years ago, you know, the 625 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 4: average life expectancy was forty five and so aase we 626 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 4: live longer, there's going to be a lot more people 627 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 4: with it. But it's even worse than that. They apparently 628 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 4: have done autopsy studies of men who die in their twenties, 629 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 4: and I've seen at least one report saying eight percent 630 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 4: of men in their twenties already have a form of 631 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 4: prostate cancer. So that makes you wonder if it's more 632 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 4: hyperplasia or something that's not quite cancer, and that maybe 633 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 4: our grading system needs to be better refined to figure 634 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 4: out when we need to do surgery and when we do. 635 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 4: So it is a complicated subject. I guess it. Don't 636 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 4: follow him for it because look, he's eighty two and 637 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 4: he's had twelve years without having to deal with any 638 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 4: of the symptoms of having the surgery. And I don't know, 639 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 4: I don't know what would have been better, and nobody really, 640 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. There's a lot of ends or butts 641 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 4: about how to make the decision. The guy that invented 642 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 4: the PSA was a test with a chairman of the 643 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 4: department at Stanford for many years. He finally came to 644 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 4: the conclusion at the end that PSA is also related 645 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 4: to a benign enlargement of the prostate as well as cancer. 646 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 4: And it's difficult to distinguish because men's prostate gets bigger 647 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 4: over time, and that's why most older men have trouble 648 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 4: with urinary symptoms. But it's not all cancer. A lot 649 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 4: of it's benign. And because the surgeries involved, you other 650 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 4: decide do I want to do you know, do I 651 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 4: want to watch it? Do I want to do surgery? 652 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 4: And it's a difficult decision for a lot of men. 653 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: Senator Paul, Doctor Paul wearing both hats today for us. 654 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show, sir, 655 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: Thank you. This is nine to eleven. The Tunnel. The 656 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: Towers Foundation has been supporting America's greatest heroes and their families. 657 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: Heroes like Mark Hulbert. Mark was born into a military family. 658 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: His father served for twenty five years and his grandfather 659 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: fought in World War Two. 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