1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Oh, welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Hope all of you are ready for a fabulous weekend, 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: and thanks for spending your Friday with us. We've got 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: a lot of topics to discuss throughout the course of 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: the program. 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 3: We'll also take a few of your calls. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Eight hundred and two eight two two eight eight two 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: is the phone number here on the Friday edition of 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: the program. 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 3: Let's dive right into it. 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: The continued fallout of what's going on in Israel with 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 2: Israel preparing to enter Gaza is creating all sorts of 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: interesting political externalities here for Joe Biden. Uh and today 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: is also the Twitter one year anniversary. Ron DeSantis says 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: Trump can't win. Do we believe it? But let's start here. Buck, 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: I've got a thesis for you. I want you to 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: tell me if you believe it or not. Trump was 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: the glue holding together all of the Democrat Party's identity 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: politics coalitions. They could point to Trump and say he's 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: the great Satan, He's everything that unites us. Even though 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: this was a disparate coalition of identities that might not 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: have a lot in common otherwise. And I think what's 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: going on right now, and Joe Biden is not a 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 2: skilled enough politician, I don't think to address it is 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: you're now seeing a massive frame of the Democrat identity 28 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: politic coalition. We've mentioned that Jewish people tend to vote 29 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: Democrat sixty five thirty five seventy thirty. This is a 30 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: big advantage. But also the Rashida talib elon Omar wing 31 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: of the Palestinian caucus kind of call it what it is, 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: also overwhelmingly votes Democrat. And so you've got two identity 33 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: coalitions colliding. There isn't the great Satan of Trump to 34 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: connect them now. And there's a lot of concern that 35 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: the young coalition that supported Joe Biden overwhelmingly is in 36 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party actually way more receptive to Palestine, and 37 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: then the Jewish coalition obviously is not receptive at all. 38 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: So can he hold this identity politics coalition together? 39 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: In your mind? So what you have is the apparatus 40 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: of BLM and racial politics in this country has taken in. 41 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 3: This is why on college campuses, it's so apparent, has 42 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: taken in the Palestinian cause as a racial cause. You 43 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: don't even really hear about it talked about very often 44 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 3: in the context of a religious That's not really what 45 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: the left views this as they view it as white 46 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: versus brown or white oppression of brown people. Yes, and 47 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: that's the lens through which all of this is being seen, 48 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: and that has been a very potent force for Democrats 49 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: on a whole range of issues. Right. That is, Democrats 50 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: have used race and racial resentments and racial strife for 51 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: electoral lens. I mean, if you don't have the Democrat 52 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: Party winning particularly the black vote by as much as 53 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: it does in this country, but also other non white 54 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: voting blocks by the numbers that it does, the Democrat 55 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: Party will never is not a viable political entity. So 56 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: it's very important to them. But then at the senior 57 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: ranks of the Democrat Party you have, first of all, 58 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: you have a number of prominent Jewish leaders in the Democrats, 59 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer and there are others. You have Joe Biden, 60 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: who has a long history of supporting Israel. And so 61 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: there's this there is this this collision of interest that 62 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: is occurring here, and you see somebody like, for example, 63 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: here's here's Alan Dershowitz. Did you see this? Alan Dershowitz, 64 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 3: a prominent attorney Jewish American. Here he is yelling at 65 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: a bunch of protesters that they shouldn't be cowards hiding 66 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: behind mass play three. 67 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 4: They're free, They wear masks, They weep and cry, Oh, 68 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 4: my name will be revealed. 69 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: Maybe I will lose my job. Will you ought to 70 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: lose your job? 71 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 4: Would any client want to be represented by somebody who 72 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,119 Speaker 4: supported rapists? Would anybody want to be represented by somebody 73 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: who's a member the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazi Party? 74 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: Hamas is ku Klux Klan. It's the Nazi Party. And 75 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: if you support their terrorism, you're supporting Nazism. And you 76 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: can't do it anonymously. Sorry, Come out from behind under 77 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 4: your rock and make yourself known and bear the consequences. 78 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: Martin Luther King, didn't try to hide. You're trying to hide. 79 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 4: If you're ashamed of don't express them, but don't. 80 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 3: Hide, Clay. You know it's interesting. Also we saw in 81 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: the Trump era the rise of the use of terms 82 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: like white nationalism and white supremacy for the Republican Party 83 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 3: and fascism all together. That there was a fascistic, racist, 84 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: white supremacist Republican Party in this country, which is a 85 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: just the whole thing as an absurd slander. But it's 86 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: interesting with Hamas, you have an energy. You can make 87 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: a very clear case that Hamas is, as we've been 88 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 3: saying all week, morally indistinguishable from in its actions and 89 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: in its aims from al Qaeda or ISIS or other 90 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: jihada sentities that we know must be destroyed, not negotiated with, 91 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: not met with good faith, destroyed. And the left thinks 92 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 3: that that's going too far. Right Republicans, they've been saying 93 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: for years half the country clay is whites is part 94 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: of a white supremacist and fascistic even that there's a 95 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: lot of minorities, it doesn't matter that they're part of that. 96 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: There are a lot of minority Republicans. They're part of 97 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: something that is evil, the Republican Party. Democrats are comfortable. 98 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: Democrats are comfortable saying the Republican Party is evil. And 99 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: yet look at how I mean, how many Democrats are 100 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: not comfortable saying Hamas is evil. 101 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would even go a step further here, Buck. 102 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: You can point to people who are defending Hamas and 103 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: they try to say, well, I'm not defending Hamas. They 104 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: sometimes they do they say, well, this is about defending Palestine. Well, 105 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: I mean Palestine is. Hamas is more popular in in 106 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: Gaza than Joe Biden is in America. I think they 107 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: have like almost a sixty percent approval rating. Now, I 108 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: don't know how reliable polls are in Gaza in general, 109 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: but this is effectively a political party that is representing 110 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: the Palestinian people. But you have people like Rashida the Leab, 111 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: You have people like elan Omar Jamal Bowman who will 112 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: come out and say and we'll talk about Bowman pulling 113 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 2: the fire alarm a little bit later in the program, 114 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure. But you have them coming out and effectively 115 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: giving propagandistic talking points in favor of UH the the 116 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: the Hamas militants and UH and and everyone around them 117 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: who even makes and has any political part of power 118 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: at all, any kind of argument in favor directly of 119 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: white supremacy. 120 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: Right. I mean this, this is. 121 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: The great fallacy of the argument that America's overrun with 122 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: white supremacy. Okay, show me the entirety, give you know 123 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: the rest of the world and the non white poppular. 124 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: I mean, when was the last time you saw somebody 125 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: at the border, for example, crossing in the country that 126 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: you would describe as as white or Caucasian. 127 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: And it is. It is a non white influx of 128 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: millions and millions of people, yes, who are desperate to 129 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: be in this. 130 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: Gun, willing to die to get here. It would be 131 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: totally unnatural to make that choice if this was a 132 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: white supremacy ridden riddled country. But there's no one with 133 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: any political power who is a white supremacist. I can't 134 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: even think of anyone who has publicly come out and 135 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: said anything white supremacy related. And oh, by the way, 136 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: we've created such a free country that do you know 137 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: who is the most dominant successful group by ethnicity in 138 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: America today? Asian people. Asian people out earn white people overwhelmingly, 139 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: which is why they're now called what are they called 140 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: buck white adjacent because if you point out that Asian 141 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: people are successful, people say, well, they're kind of white adjacent. Well, 142 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: there's a big difference between a recent immigrant who's Asian 143 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: and who suddenly can't get into Harvard because their scores 144 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: are being discriminated against relative to other people, and it's 145 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: all just laughably absurd. 146 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 3: Nigerian immigrants the United States do better than the average 147 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 3: American household. I mean, when you look at these South 148 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 3: Asian immigrants to the United States, economically speaking, make more 149 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: money than the average American households. I mean, you start 150 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 3: to break this down, you realize the whole narrative of 151 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: white supremacy in the country is a falsehood. But beyond that, 152 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: and then they said, well, it's like you're denying racism. 153 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: Of course, no, there's always going to be people that 154 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: are going to judge people by superficial characteristics and that 155 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: make the immoral decision that they're going to view people 156 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: differently based upon skin color. That's always going to exist, 157 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: that always has and they're always going to be representing 158 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: all different races too, by the way, which is something 159 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: that's almost impossible to announce on the Democrat Party and 160 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: the rest of the world. Racism is understood to be 161 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: people thinking that people who aren't their race they're less 162 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: less comfortable around, they think less of them, or whatever 163 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: it may be. Only in this country is racism a 164 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: a single race phenomenon. Really, I mean, there are some 165 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 3: other you know, Western European countries, you can make the 166 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: same argument, but I'm talking about globally. It's certainly the 167 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: case that there are racisms of non white variety, meaning 168 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: people that aren't white can actually be racist. But you 169 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: look back again to the Palestinian Israeli debate as it's 170 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: playing out, and there's also just a lot of things 171 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: being said that are not true. I mean, here's where 172 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: she'd a Talib yelling at reporters who are asking if 173 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: she will denounce himas listen to how she responds. Playclip too. 174 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 5: Congress Wood, will you denounce a Mossy? Will you denounce 175 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 5: the US? 176 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: Why do you support terrists? 177 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: You're dehumanizing House to me, No, you're you're supporting terrorists. 178 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: No, you're supporting terrorists. You're supporting terrorists. Notice Clay, if 179 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 3: after nine to eleven I had said to somebody, will 180 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: you denounce these because fifteen of the nineteen hijackers were Saudi, 181 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 3: you're dehumanizing Saudi's. Everyone saying no, that's dehumanizing Saudis. I'm 182 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: saying people that did a thing. We're part of an 183 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 3: organization who are mass murdering terrorists have to be dealt with. 184 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: We have to have a right to isn't an interesting. 185 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 3: People will say Israel has a right to self defense. 186 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: Then you say, okay, so you support the invasions. Say 187 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: absolutely not. He said, well, then how do they have 188 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: right to defense? They're supposed to live with the you know, 189 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: the sort of demoicles dangling from above the state of 190 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: Israel with all these rockets and this Hamas terrorist infrastructure. 191 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: It's insane. 192 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is again emblematic what would we just 193 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: played that audio clip of Biden's extreme weakness on his 194 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: left flank, and I think the data is going to 195 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: start to show because Biden won young people overwhelmingly, there 196 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: is going to be Cornell West is already making an 197 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: argument for that far left fringe. And I've said Buck, 198 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 2: there's three ways Biden loses. One way is turnout is 199 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: way lower. I think we're trending towards and we've got 200 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: a stake bed I think on whether more people will 201 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 2: vote in twenty four than voted in twenty I think 202 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: we're going to trend towards less because I think Biden's 203 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: not going to have the same motivating factor. You could 204 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: also go into Biden has some form of physical frailty 205 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: that just makes it impossible to vote for him, and 206 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: then third party. Three of those I think are trending 207 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: against Biden, which is why I think Trump, if the 208 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: election were today, would win. Now, Ron DeSantis, when we 209 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: come back, Buck will play some audio for people, Ron 210 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: DeSantis said on CNN yesterday with Caitlin Collins. I believe, hey, 211 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: Donald Trump can't win. We'll play you that audio. I 212 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: actually disagree. I think Biden is so bad that all 213 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: three of those factors are working against him. 214 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: But we'll let you guys way into Yeah, eight hundred 215 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: two two two eight a two and hear that audio. 216 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure somebody you can want to be fired up 217 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: one a way. 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You'll hear more 236 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: about it than about a week or so you'll have 237 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 3: For a couple weeks, you have a Republican debate, primary 238 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: debate happening. Donald Trump is not expected to participate in 239 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: that primary debate. Once again, he is going to skip 240 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: the debates. I also think, is he I mean he's 241 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: going to want to debate Joe Biden. I would assume 242 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: I don't think Joe Biden will show up the debate 243 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. So this may be a change in our 244 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: perception and of how debates are are effectively a mandate 245 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 3: of the public for presidential runs. I don't do you 246 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 3: think that there'll be a Biden Trump debate. 247 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna want Biden to stand up 248 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: and talk to anybody. 249 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: For two hours. And I think I think Biden's just 250 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: set the rather Biden's gonna say that Trump is set 251 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: a precedent where you know what I stand for, you 252 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: know what he stands for. There's no point, I mean, 253 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: that would be my guess because to your there's nothing 254 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: but downside for Biden as the as a sitting president, 255 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: you know, unless people are going to switch there or 256 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 3: change their opinion of him based on whether or not 257 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: he shows up for this. But anyway, Ron desantists governor 258 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: of Florida. He is a fantastic governor. He is way 259 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: behind Donald Trump in the polls, as we all know, 260 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: and he's coming out to say he doesn't think Trump 261 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: can actually beat Biden. Play twenty two. You don't think 262 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: Donald Trump can beat Joe Biden? I don't. 263 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 6: I mean I think that I think. 264 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 7: That would you endorse him if he is the number why? 265 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 6: I've already said that I signed the pledge. I'm supporting 266 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 6: a Republican nominating trail. 267 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: Well for me it is. 268 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 6: I mean, I think when when you sign something, I 269 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 6: know some people don't do that. But when I agreed 270 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 6: to participate in the baits, I knew what that meant. 271 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 6: I knew whoever comes out of that process. But here's 272 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 6: the thing. I'm not just going to take my ball 273 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 6: and go home. I'm going to do follow the process, 274 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 6: respect the people's will. I think ultimately, you know, they'll 275 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 6: make the judgment that I'm the best foot forward, and 276 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 6: I think we'll get it done. But look, at the 277 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 6: end of the day, I'm not going to just cry 278 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 6: in the corner. I mean, I think Biden needs to 279 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 6: be defeated, and I think a Republican needs to do it. 280 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: So I mean, yeah, I was just going to say buck. 281 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: I think Caitlin actually stepped on that answer because he 282 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: was about to explain why he didn't think Trump could win, 283 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: and then she dove right into will you support him? 284 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: I'm far more interested in the analysis of why DeSantis 285 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: doesn't think Trump can of. 286 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: Course, Well, also, there's no doubt that DeSantis will support 287 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: Trump as the nominee. I mean, in my mind, heyeh's 288 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: zero zero doubt he's going to do that. He's going 289 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: to keep his word on that, and I think his 290 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: heart will be inext. I think he wants a Republican. 291 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: I think he wants a Republican to be president. I 292 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: think he thinks Donald Trump would probably do a good job. 293 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: I think his primary concern, well, you know, it's tough 294 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: to say primary concern, but I think that Ron DeSantis 295 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: is the only he's the only person running against Trump 296 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: who I think believes that he has a better chance 297 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: of beating Joe Biden than Donald Trump does. Maybe Nicki Haley, 298 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: maybe Haley really do I look, I think, and this 299 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: is maybe the shift in the election. Maybe I'll change 300 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: my mind again. I had concerns coming out of twenty 301 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: twenty two about whether Trump could beat Biden. I mean, 302 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: I think I said him on the show. 303 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: I think whomever the Republican nominee is, I think DeSantis 304 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: would beat Biden. I think that Trump will beat Biden. 305 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: I think Nicky Haley would beat Biden. I think Vive 306 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: Karamaswami would beat Biden. Wow, I think you are I 307 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: love your confidence. I do I have nowhere near your 308 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: confidence level. And all this so here's what I think 309 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: has shifted. I don't think the Republican electorate is as 310 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: focused on electability because Biden's so weak. I think if 311 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: Biden were stronger, there would be a more aggressive analysis 312 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: individually of who is the better candidate to beat Biden. 313 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: I actually think a lot of people out there believe 314 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: that the Republican will win. 315 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: That's where I am. But look at how Democrats coalesced 316 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: around Biden. Biden was a loser in the election that 317 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: he won, and. 318 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: We should talk about this when we should talk about 319 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 2: this when we come back. I think the third party candidacy. 320 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: I think the young people are moving against him. I 321 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: think Biden's going to lose, and I think it's Biden 322 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: weakness that's the story right now, not necessarily Republican strength. 323 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: Those in the note refer to an IRS loophole as 324 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: the Secret Royalty Program. This IRS loophole is one that 325 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 3: allows for Americans to collect thousands of dollars or more 326 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: in payout every year. 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So how do you do that? 336 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: Where do you go? Well, start this way, go to 337 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: Secret Royaltyprogram dot Com. Again, that's Secret Royalty Program dot Com. 338 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 3: You're gonna want to visit before the upcoming deadline. Secret 339 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: Royaltyprogram dot Com paid for by wide Mote Research. 340 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're gonna 341 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: take some of your calls eight hundred to eight to eight, 342 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: eight to two. We're discussing the DeSantis argument there that 343 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 2: he made on CNN that he doesn't think Trump can 344 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: be Biden. Then I understand that because if you're running 345 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: against Trump, one of your calling cards can be I'm 346 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: the guy that's going to be Biden, on the gal 347 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: that's going to be Biden. Buck, I asked a question. 348 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: We were just talking off the air. So I've been 349 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: arguing for some time that to me, there are three 350 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: pathways by which Biden loses in twenty four, assuming he's 351 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: the nominee, which I still can't believe, but it appears 352 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: that they're going to put him forward. 353 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: You're gonna win a steake bet on that. 354 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: I think third party support and increasingly there may be 355 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: a third or fourth or fifth party on the ballot, 356 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: and I think that hurts Biden. Decline and turn out. 357 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: We got a stake bet I think fewer people will 358 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: vote in twenty four than voted in twenty and the 359 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: last one. Biden's age, infirmity, there's something that occurs. So 360 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: let me just ask you this, and I don't want 361 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: this to happen, and I old people do out there 362 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 2: like oh Clayton. 363 00:19:59,119 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 8: No. 364 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: Let's say Biden is walking off Air Force one, or 365 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: he's coming down the steps off of the helicopter and 366 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: he catches foot catches, which is not crazy, or could 367 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: be going upstairs as well, foot catches, he falls, he 368 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: breaks a wrist, he breaks a foot, and he's on 369 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 2: crutches or having to wear a sling as a cast. 370 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: Is Biden still the nominee if that happened in the 371 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: next two weeks or would the infirmity And the reason 372 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: why I'm asking this is I don't think this is 373 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 2: crazy to think could happen in the next year. If 374 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: you watch the way Biden can't lift his feet, the 375 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: way he's tripping everything else. If we have something that 376 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: is impossible to ignore, he's got a sling on, he's 377 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: got some sort of cast on, he breaks a bone. 378 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: Is he still the nominee? Well, I've said all along 379 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: that I think that they would have Joe Biden in 380 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 3: a wheelchair and as long as he is still. 381 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: So, you think even if he fell down the stairs, 382 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: there's video of him like falling and he breaks a bone, 383 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 2: that they would stick with him. 384 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 3: The Biden twenty twenty four campaign is not about Joe Biden. 385 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 3: It's about stopping Donald Trump from ending our democracy. And 386 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: that will be enough for every Democrat in my mind, 387 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 3: who voted for Biden last time to come out again 388 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 3: and vote for him this time. And the question then 389 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 3: just becomes what does it do in the six states 390 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: that are in play for voters who are either persuadable 391 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: or you know, can be determined to determine whether or 392 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: not they're actually going to show up right, whether they're 393 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: high propensity voters. So that's how I see it playing out. 394 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 3: I think the answer is yes, Joe Biden will probably 395 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 3: be the nominee. The only thing that stops it is 396 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 3: if he literally physically cannot be and we don't need 397 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: to get into that, but it's why we have a 398 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: vice president. And then they'd see if they can have 399 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. And remember, there would be a whole if 400 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 3: Joe Biden for reasons of health did have to step down. 401 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: I think there'd be a lot of sympathy there'd be 402 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 3: depending on what happens. I don't want to get too 403 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 3: into this, but everyone understands what the possibilities here are. 404 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 3: And I think there would be a rally to Kamala 405 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: as the vice president, the first black female president, you 406 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 3: know that. I think they could pull this all together 407 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: in a way that it's not like she's gonna win 408 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: or he's gonna win. Neither of them are are in 409 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: the position to get any kind of a landslide. Can 410 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 3: they just you know, eke out of victory. And there's 411 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: a lot that's going to be in play between now 412 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: and then that I think could could shift. One thing 413 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: we do have in our favor is at least we 414 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: have one so well. There's truth, social there's rumble. There's 415 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 3: a few. To be fair, but Twitter is no longer 416 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 3: fully in the hands of the part is an activist 417 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: left play it is actually now it's one full year 418 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: anniversary of Elon Must's purchase. How do you think it's going? 419 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: I would give so I use Twitter less increasingly, to 420 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: be fair, I don't even really tweet very much anymore. 421 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: I go in and I'll retweet, you know, OutKick articles, 422 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: but I hop in right like I'm not on it 423 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: all day. 424 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 3: I hop in. 425 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: And in just wanting to see my timeline, because I 426 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 2: do think people still come in a lot of you 427 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 2: out there busy at work, but you may say, hey, 428 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: I want to just kind of see what the last 429 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: twenty four hours, what's kind of floating around out there? 430 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: I would give him a B plus. I think if 431 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: I were rating it, I think there's far more freedom 432 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: to say what you think. And compared to YouTube, and 433 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: compared to Google, and compared to where the other Instagram 434 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: restrictive social media properties out there, TikTok. I think Twitter 435 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: is more free speech latent. I think it's just not 436 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: as easy to use for me, and a couple of 437 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 2: things I would change if I were given a magic wand. 438 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, the user experience has declined a little bit. I 439 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 3: hate the two feeds thing, and there's a few things 440 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: that I have getting or actually rid of the blue checks. 441 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 3: I know people said it was a a caste system 442 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: on Twitter, but you know, I can't. I can't make 443 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 3: a joke to Clay on Twitter and think that he's 444 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: actually gonna see it, and vice versa because of the 445 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: way they've changed things, whereas back in the day we 446 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 3: definitely would have been able to see it. So we 447 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 3: miss things like that. But anyway, I think it's interesting 448 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: or it's in the context of what's happening right now 449 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: with the national conversation over Israel and Hamas and Palestine 450 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: and all this stuff, that there are people looking at 451 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 3: the numbers and TikTok, which is the social media platform 452 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 3: of choice. I mean YouTube is the you know, video 453 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 3: platform of choice for longer form stuff for younger people, 454 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 3: but TikTok, for true social media, is now what the 455 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: twenty five and under set is using more than anything else. Yeah, 456 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 3: TikTok is overwhelmingly propaganda in favor of Palestine, Hamas, et cetera. 457 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 3: And I just think Clay, if you had Twitter if 458 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: the old Twitter was still in place, you might see 459 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: an even bigger ground swell of these protests. And I 460 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: mean it's been big as it is, but I think 461 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 3: that social media amplification of honestly anti Semitic stuff would 462 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 3: be even stronger if you had had the old Twitter 463 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 3: in place, because on this issue, all of a sudden, 464 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 3: there's different rules. On the issue of Israel and Palestine. 465 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 3: The rules change for what kind of things you can say. 466 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 3: We've seen in the college campus college campuses play the 467 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 3: president of Harvard has discovered nuance when it comes to 468 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: what kind of free speech should be allowed. Suddenly you're 469 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: you know, it's very different. If you say all lives matter, 470 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 3: you get fired. 471 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: If you say, well, Palestinians are actually the victim, people say, well, 472 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 2: let's talk about nuance and difficulty and colonialism and the 473 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: oppressive state upon which the Hamas universe has has dwelt 474 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 2: for so long, and what the impact of their decision 475 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: making would be. I think it's important for even older 476 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: people out there to understand what their kids are geting 477 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: exposed to. And I don't post on TikTok. I have 478 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 2: an account on TikTok because I want to see what 479 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: is circulating and what is what is becoming algorithmically favored. 480 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: And I just we'll take some of your calls in 481 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 2: this next segment. By the way, you can weigh in 482 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 2: on a lot of different topics start off the show. 483 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 2: But I under thirty five's coming out in favor of Hamas, which, 484 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: as you've pointed out, Buck is basically the equivalent of 485 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 2: being like, hey, al Qaeda is making some good points, 486 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: which is you. 487 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: Need to take a longer look at bin Laden's philosophy 488 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 3: before you condemn him. That's basically what these college kids 489 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 3: are saying. 490 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: Yes, and I get the decision to rebel, but I 491 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: think for those of you out there, there's a really 492 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: great deep dive I think that could be done and written. 493 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: But the first thing that I remember going. 494 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: Viral in a social media age that was intensely political 495 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: and was basically being established under the realm of good 496 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: and evil was the Joseph Coney thing, where suddenly every 497 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 2: sixteen year old in America cared about this what I mean, 498 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: basically like a war criminal that's in Africa. But they 499 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: managed to create a depiction of him as if he 500 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: were the embodiment of all that is evil. And suddenly 501 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: every sixteen, seventeen, eighteen year old in America, because they 502 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: were on social media, saw this on their feed, and 503 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: they were convinced that Coney was the worst person who'd 504 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: ever existed in the history of the world, and they 505 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: all had deep feelings about what should be done to 506 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: him because it was an emotional response genned up by 507 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: social media. Now, sometimes that can be positive, but this 508 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: idea of good and evil they are exploiting, I think 509 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: the emotions of a lot of young kids who frankly 510 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: are ignorant about much of American and world history and 511 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: want to buy into this disneyfication of the world where 512 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: if you're white, you're a bad guy, and if you're 513 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 2: a brown you're a good guy. 514 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: It's it's not even that they're doing a relativistic Oh 515 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 3: good and evil is really hard to understand. They're they're 516 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 3: brainwashing people think that Israel's the evil doer here. Yeah, 517 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 3: that's the you know, it's not just oh, things are complicated, 518 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 3: there's nuance. You know, let's let's take a step back. 519 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 3: This needs more study. Whatever. They're fine with framing this 520 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: conflict as good versus evil. They just have it in reverse. 521 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 3: And again this is why I make this distinction. No 522 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 3: one of any you know, standing or reputation on this 523 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 3: issue is saying Isra should go in there and just 524 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: just harm as many Palestinians as it can. This is 525 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: a war against amass a terrorist entity, the same way 526 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: that Al Qayeda, the same way that isis the same 527 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: way that these other groups around the world that have 528 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 3: engaged in very similar behavior under honestly similar auspices. You know, 529 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: we have no problem sending our military to go and 530 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: deal with them, and that means using lethal force, that 531 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: means killing them. We actually have to We actually have 532 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: to understand that that Israel defending itself means there's still 533 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: has to be able to kill Hamas operatives in considerable 534 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 3: numbers involved in this attack. That is what we're talking about. 535 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: I don't shy away from that at all. But this 536 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: this idea that there's some kind of a genocide going 537 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: on in Gaza, or that this is about harming all 538 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: the palace to any people, harming women and children. Know, 539 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 3: Hamas are the ones who want the genocide, they just 540 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: don't have the means to do it. 541 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: We'll take some of your calls to close out our 542 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: number one lots still to come. In the meantime, Our 543 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: veterans have done so much for us. When you devote 544 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: your life to protecting our freedoms and keep us safe, 545 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: you're owed debt of gratitude. These are men and women 546 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: who raise their hands to sacrifice for this country, and 547 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: when they're done serving, they re enter a difficult job 548 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: market in an economy with rampant inflation. 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We want to take some of your 568 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: calls here if you want to get in on the 569 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: conversation eight hundred and two A two to eight A two. Also, 570 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 3: don't forget you can send us emails. Become a Clay 571 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: and Buck VIP. Go to Clayandbuck dot com. That is 572 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: our website. You can sign up there to be a VIP. 573 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: You get some cool perks, including a special inbox which 574 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: we are which is sentence shared to shared with us 575 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: each show throughout the show. Let's take Jose in Texas 576 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: up first. What's going on, Hose, Hello Buck. 577 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 5: Two quick points, actually three quick points. First point is 578 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 5: that the rot that begins in this nation with the 579 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 5: lack of fidelity to the constitution. Second is that the 580 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 5: Prinsior Dorsowitz was correct. 581 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 8: The right to. 582 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 5: Protest belongs to the individual or is constitutionally to the individual. 583 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 5: As soon as somebody dance a mask and they protest, 584 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 5: they deserve to be immediately arrested because they lose their right. 585 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: The right to protest does. 586 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 5: Not belong to a mask entity. It belongs to an individual. Third, 587 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 5: I can't believe that every time that the twenty is 588 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 5: that that twenty twenty election is mentioned, it is not 589 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 5: also mentioned that way that that elition was conducted completely unconstitutionally, 590 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 5: which made it unconstitutional. He was an unconstitutional election, and 591 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 5: that should be mentioned along with the loss of Donald Trump, 592 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 5: because I acknowledged she did lose the count, but how 593 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 5: was that count achieved in the way we look Thank. 594 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: You for the call, Jose. We agree with you that 595 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: the election in twenty twenty was rigged. Here's the problem. 596 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: If you believe twenty twenty was rigged than we do, 597 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: why do you think they're not going to try to 598 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: rig twenty twenty four too? So I think you have 599 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: to be careful in becoming self defeating. I think it's 600 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: going to be harder to rig the election in twenty 601 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: twenty four without COVID, right, but they're going to try 602 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: to grab every loophole they can. We know that there 603 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: is going to be a concerted effort by the media, 604 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: as there was with the Hunter Biden laptop and all 605 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: those things, to not allow stories which are negative to 606 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: Biden to circulate. Now, on the question he asked about 607 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: the mask, the reason they're wearing ask because they're trying 608 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: to avoid responsibility for what they're saying. 609 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 3: Right, But the matter of this, they get to hide 610 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: their identity and they they don't have to worry about 611 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: whatever it is that they think is gonna happen with 612 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 3: COVID these days. Richard and Gainesville, Florida. Richard, what have 613 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 3: you got for us? 614 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 8: Hey, gentleman, thanks for taking my cars. This is actually amazing. 615 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 8: You guys are doing a wonderful job taking over for 616 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 8: the for the great Rush Limbaugh. First of all, I 617 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 8: think Rond De Santis is right. I think the only 618 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 8: one who can lose to Joe Biden is unfortunately Donald Trump, 619 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 8: because he pissed off so many of the UH independent voters. 620 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 8: I don't think they're gonna side with him no matter 621 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 8: what he does. Unfortunately, if he is the nominee, I 622 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 8: will still vote for him, but I would love to 623 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 8: see the Santas as a president. Last point is when 624 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 8: y'all talking about Hamas. I'm a disable combat veteran, multiple 625 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 8: tours to Iraq. 626 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 5: Thank you. 627 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 8: I feel sorry for those people because the war that 628 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 8: they're having to fight has no death definitive enemy. They 629 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 8: don't wear uniform, they look just like me and you. 630 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 8: Kids will carry guns and part to illustrate some of 631 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 8: this for you, I'll bring you back to a couple 632 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 8: of movies that I know are fiction. But if you 633 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 8: look at the movie Blackhawk Down, where you see those 634 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 8: little kids carrying AK forty seven's, that's factual. The other part, 635 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 8: the other movie that i'd bring you back to is 636 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 8: The Kingdom with Jamie Fox about the bombing in Saudi 637 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 8: Arabia that probably didn't happen, but if you look at 638 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 8: how the bombmaker, Albahamsen was teaching his grandchild, this is 639 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 8: what you do. These kids are taught this from. 640 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 3: Birth, no doubt you have me. 641 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 8: Look, unfortunately, you don't know friend from foe, and I 642 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 8: feel the. 643 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 3: Urban warfare that they Thank you, first of all, thank 644 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 3: you for your service, Richard. Thank you for calling in 645 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: the urban warfare. Situation that Israel's going into in Gaza 646 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 3: is going to be very difficult. Hellish and could have 647 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 3: much higher casualty rates than IDF has suffered in the past. 648 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 3: Hopefully that's not the case. We will see. Perhaps this 649 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: preparation time will will limit both IDF and civilian Palestinian casualties, 650 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: which is which is certainly a goal of all of it. 651 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: Well one, we're here Greg in Wisconsin. Greg, you want 652 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 3: to weigh in on Trump in twenty twenty four. What's up? 653 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 5: Ah? 654 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 7: Yes, my belief was where it is going right now. 655 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 7: At best, Donald Trump would have a fifty to fifty 656 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 7: chance of winning if the election was held today. Reason 657 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 7: why I say that is because, like Tom some of 658 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 7: the other College I say that Trump has really ticked 659 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 7: off a lot of people, but also to believe that 660 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 7: there would be a lot of people that would stay 661 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 7: home and not vote from Biden just to the how 662 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 7: in top of they is, but the Democrats always seem 663 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 7: to be able to find the votes. 664 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 3: Look, thank you for the call. I think we're going 665 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 3: to have a lower turnout. 666 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 2: I think there's going to be not just a third party, 667 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: but a fourth and fifth party on many of these 668 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 2: different state ballots. Buck and I still think that at 669 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 2: some point this is what we started off or talked 670 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 2: about earlier. I think there's going to be a Biden 671 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: age related issue. I don't mean health, I mean like 672 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: he trips in falls. I mean he steps off a 673 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 2: stage and falls. We've already seen him fall on the 674 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: You don't think it's going to impact things. I think 675 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: it's the single most consequential thing in the mind of 676 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: independent voters. I just I think they decided Biden can't 677 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 2: do the job, and there's going to be a video 678 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 2: montage that incident that just makes it clear. 679 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: That's my thought. His competitor is almost eighty Yeah, so 680 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. We'll see. We'll talk about 681 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 3: Israel Palestine here in a second, or Israel versus a 682 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 3: MA stick around for that