1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. We are 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: headed into Memorial Day weekend. The Cubs are ten games 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: over five hundred. They're not fully healthy, but they got 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: Ian halfback. They won a series against the Marlins. They're 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: doing what they are supposed to do in this weaker stretch. 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: I believe they are now seven and two in that 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: twenty one game stretch against under five hundred teams. I'm 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: not even sure if the Reds are still under five hundred, 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: but they start three against the Reds, a talented team 12 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: that's probably not playing up fully up to its potential yet. 13 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: But the Cubs. 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: The Cubs are getting a lot of different contributions. Matt 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: Shaw's returned and he looks like the player that you know, 16 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: we kind of expected him to be, or. 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: Hoped he could be. The Cubs hoped he could be. 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: He is driving the ball to the right field with consistency. 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: It seems like every every other at bat is a 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: hard line drive to run. Daniel Palencia bounced back nicely 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: blew that game on Monday and comes back with a 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: real nice save, quick one two three inning. The bullpen 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: isn't perfect, but it has some talent there. 24 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: Brad Keller with. 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: Huge one and two thirds innings, just to I mean, 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: and obviously, you know, I don't think anybody that watches 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: baseball expected Kyle Tucker's slump to last much longer than 28 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: it did. 29 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: He is back to being Kyle Tucker. 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: Uh. Just you know, this is a this is what 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: they're not click. I wouldn't say they're clicking on all cylinders, 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: but they are. I mean, they won a game fourteen 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: to one, so I guess maybe they are. But they're also, 34 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, winning the games they should be winning series, 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: and like I said, they're ten games over five hundred 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: and first place heading into kind of what do we 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: call this a mile marker? 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: I guess in the season. 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to your point, I think that's the 40 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: most impressive part about this season thus far is that 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: they aren't really clicking on all cylinders. Like it doesn't 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: feel like the Cubs are kind of maxed out at 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: this point, like things have gone wrong and they've withstood 44 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: the injuries to show to Monaga and Justin Steele and 45 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: Javier assad and they've figured out to an extent what 46 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: works in the bullpen, you know, while acknowledging that there's 47 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: a lot of work to be done and they'll have 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: to bring in reinforcements here pretty soon. But like you know, 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: fifty games is not an insignificant amount of time off 50 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: the calendar. And when you see them ten over, when 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: you see how this offense has clicked, you see the 52 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: young talent rising to the surface, whether it's Kate Horton, 53 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: matchaw obviously Peek Armstrong becoming like an m VP candidate. 54 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: This is. 55 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: Pretty close to what the Cubs could have could have 56 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: hoped for back in Mesa, you know, boarding the plane 57 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 3: to Japan. Uh. It is, in just about every respect 58 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: a very impressive start to the season and one that 59 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: they think they can sustain. 60 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't see any reason why they 61 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: can't sustain it outside of stacking up injuries. 62 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: I like the idea that you know, they've built some depth. 63 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: Here, they've they've they've won while not maybe playing their 64 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: best or having some injuries. Kyle Tucker is the best 65 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: player on this team I know, pe K Armstrong is 66 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: probably the least in war right now. But I mean 67 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker is the one that's established himself. Let's just 68 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: say that he has the the history of doing this. 69 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: So they have that guy, they have a breakout star, 70 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: they have they have a lot of elements that. 71 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: That lead to success. 72 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we could talk about so many different aspects 73 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: of this team. 74 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: Really. 75 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: There's the the catching duo is just remarkable. Uh, the 76 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: youth that's coming up. Cad Horton is he was he dominant. 77 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that, but he's he's he's getting, he's 78 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: he's getting and miss and and he and he's you know, 79 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: he's he's producing. I think that's important. I think there's 80 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of positives that you can 81 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: bring up about this team right now. Patrick, Let's take 82 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: a quick break and then we will start talking about 83 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: the Red Series with our buddy, c Trent Rosenkrantz, who 84 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: covers baseball for the Athletic. 85 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: Ft FAM. 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 5: Let's talk about the h O F app If you're 87 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 5: into parlays, but sometimes you're missing the mark more than 88 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 5: you would like to, can I introduce you to some 89 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 5: serious analytics on an app that is easy to read 90 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 5: and comprehend. 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Besides you talking about how old I am. 116 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 7: You've been covering the Reds since before I was born. 117 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 7: And then of course, of course, the great thing about 118 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 7: this is I'm totally playing into it because somehow I 119 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 7: just unplugged my camera and I can't get the background off. 120 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 7: When it does, I've turned in my father. Is this 121 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 7: a bit, Trent? 122 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 4: It is not a bit? 123 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 7: Sadly, I wish it were, because that would make it 124 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 7: would just make me feel better. But nothing's going to 125 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 7: make me feel better. We're just all gonna die sometimes. 126 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 7: So sign of a biscuit. Oh my god, I am 127 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 7: just like playing every stereotype that you can. And oh no, 128 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 7: it makes it worse. Apparently all I did was accidentally 129 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 7: clicked stop cam. Oh my god, you have seen me 130 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 7: age in real time, and I did a background once. 131 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: I can't get it off, but only on Crow, not 132 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: on Safari. 133 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 7: Oh god, I am my father and I don't have 134 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 7: me to call. It's like when he died, his spirit 135 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 7: of technological ineptitude entered my body. 136 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: There we go, all right, we see how about that ram? 137 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: All right? 138 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: Trent? 139 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Reds. They're not a dominant ball club. They 140 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: are not a bad ball club. They are the Cincinnati Reds. Uh. 141 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: One thing that I'm gonna start. 142 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 7: Like technological knowledge, like I exist somewhat. It was much 143 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 7: better many years ago. The glory days were there. Now 144 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 7: it's sometimes you go right, sometimes you don't. 145 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: Fifty shot its coin flip. 146 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: Let's let's start with this starting pitching. It's good because yeah, 147 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: I did not expect them to be this good starting 148 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: pitching wise. Uh, one of the best rotations going right, Now, 149 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: what what's the standout is it? It's you know, I 150 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: think everyone knows that Hunter well maybe not everyone knows, 151 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: but most of people should know. 152 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: Hunter Green's had a breakout season. 153 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: He looks like, uh, you know, a stud what what 154 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: clicked for him? And then what's going on behind him 155 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: in that rotation? 156 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, and it's pretty funny to like it's 157 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 7: a breakout year and last agreement the All Star team 158 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 7: like and so. But but it's a leveling up. You know, 159 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 7: there is an All Star level, but then there's a 160 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 7: young level. 161 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: Right. I mean we've I mean you have X amount. 162 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 7: I mean, what five hundred pitchers make the All Star 163 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 7: Game every year after injuries and replacements and all that. 164 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 7: So you know it's going from that top five percent, 165 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 7: top ten percent to the top one percent. And you know, honestly, 166 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 7: here's the thing with Hunter Green that is I pointed 167 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 7: this out and I kind of said it to him, 168 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 7: and he was like, yeah, I think you're right. Like, 169 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 7: for a twenty five year old, the majority of his 170 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 7: competitive pitches that he's thrown in his life in games 171 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 7: that you would consider competitive, have come at the big 172 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 7: league level because he was very he was monitored very 173 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 7: tightly as as a prep player. He was a two 174 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 7: way guy coming out of the draft. You know, he 175 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 7: didn't pitch that much for his high school. I think 176 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 7: it was like, I don't know, it might have been 177 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 7: like eighty innings total in high school, then was short 178 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 7: in the minor League's missed a year with tom Me 179 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 7: John and then debuted at what twenty two, twenty three, 180 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 7: twenty one, twenty two, twenty three something around there. So 181 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 7: he's a twenty five year old who the majority of 182 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 7: his competitive pitches in his life have been at the 183 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 7: big league level. That's that's a learning curve, right, Like 184 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 7: you kind of think about that and it's just mind blowing, 185 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 7: and so he's kind of it's it's funny to say, 186 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 7: but I think the biggest difference is is he trusts 187 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 7: his stuff, and you know, it's that's a learning process 188 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 7: because you know, when he got to the big league 189 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 7: level for the first time in his life, he couldn't 190 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 7: just outstuff people. You know, he wasn't so much more 191 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 7: dominant than everybody else he faced, and it took some 192 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 7: time to figure that out. And the thing that's different 193 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 7: with him if you look at his strike throwing, he 194 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 7: throws strikes and says, hey, hit it. I'm not going 195 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 7: to let you off the hook by throwing it out 196 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 7: of the zone. No, I don't care two strikes. I'm 197 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 7: still gonna throw on the zone. Do your best. 198 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: This is one O two yeah, and then and and 199 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 4: and that might not be his best pitch. Wow, I mean, 200 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 4: oh go ahead. 201 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: No, I mean I think that's a that's something a 202 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: lot of young pictures need to learn, is when when 203 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: they have nasty stuff, it's just hey, you throw strikes 204 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: with it, don't be afraid. Just you can you can 205 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: hammer the zone. These guys can't handle your stuff majority 206 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: of time. 207 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, just that what. 208 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 7: Was was being a being a hitter taught him like it, 209 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 7: thing's really really hard. If I just throw it. You 210 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 7: know a lot of these guys are gonna hit it, 211 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 7: but a lot of them aren't. And even if they 212 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 7: do hit it, okay, so what there's nine guys and 213 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 7: a fence behind me. Now that that is tough for 214 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 7: a great American ballpark because that fence is so far 215 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 7: and so you you lose some of those but like 216 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 7: that's also part of the maturation process. The best pitchers 217 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 7: I've been around in this ballpark, the Johnny Quato's, the 218 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 7: Luis Castillo's, the you know, whoever you name that they've had, 219 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 7: they don't care about the park. It just doesn't They 220 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 7: don't think about it because, you know, it's like it's 221 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 7: like playing with a bad defense. You can't get upset 222 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 7: about I don't know, name your your butcher in the 223 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 7: field here, but you can't be upset when they hit 224 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 7: the ball to the butcher and he butchers it. And 225 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 7: it's kind of like the same thing. So you just 226 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 7: kind of like, okay, what can what can I control? Well, 227 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 7: hopefully if it's you know, I'm not gonna throw it 228 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 7: inside to a right handed hitter if my butcher's at 229 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 7: third pace, you know, or in left field, and so 230 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 7: you just kind of like take that into consideration. But 231 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 7: every once in a while it happens, you hit it 232 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 7: there he boots it, and and and for Great American Ballpark, Yeah, 233 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 7: sometimes they'll hit it and it goes in that first row. 234 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 7: I mean the amount, the amount of times a pitch 235 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 7: sure has told me over my how many years, like 236 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 7: seventy years you said, so hot. That's just like you know, 237 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 7: that doesn't go out anywhere else, you know, And that 238 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 7: was even in the dead ball era when I started. 239 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: You know, So. 240 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 8: What look at that beard you've been growing it. Yeah, 241 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 8: it's never been cut. This is one hundred years of growth. 242 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 8: Only the beard grows, not's my abilities or my maturity 243 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 8: or anything else, cud just the waistline. 244 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: Well, I'm curious, Trent, when you know the Reds you 245 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: talk about extracting more from their young talent or having 246 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: that mentality of controlling that you can control. Where does 247 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: Terry francona factor into this? 248 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 7: What is he like to cover on a day to 249 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 7: day basis? You know, I keep kind of going back 250 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 7: to again, this is before your guys times, you know. 251 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 7: But but Dusty Baker. Uh, there's a lot of similarities 252 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 7: with Dusty in that he is confident in who he 253 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 7: is and his decisions, and he will take in other stuff, 254 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 7: but ultimately it lies on him. And and he's not 255 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 7: trying to prove anything to anybody because he's proven to everybody. 256 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: You know. These are both Hall of Fame managers and 257 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: for a reason, and so. 258 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 7: They're you know, what if if Nick Crawl decides, you 259 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 7: know what, this just isn't working, Hey, Tito, thanks and uh, 260 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 7: go on your merry way. 261 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure he'd be like disappointed that he 262 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: didn't get it a chance, But it's not gonna kill him. 263 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 7: You know, he's got he's got money, he's got uh, 264 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 7: he's already got. 265 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: A Hall of Fame resume whatever. 266 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 7: So like, I think there's something about I don't know 267 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 7: if there's a thing about managing scared or but there 268 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 7: is a managery managing cautious for sure or or whatever. 269 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 7: And certain guys, and quite honestly, like Craig Council has 270 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 7: that as well, where it's just like, what's you gonna do? 271 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 7: You know what, you fire me if I want a 272 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 7: job a job the next time, it's okay. You know, 273 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 7: It's not like us who's like, oh you fire me, 274 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 7: Well crap, what else am I qualified to do? I mean, Patrick, 275 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 7: you're qualified for anything. 276 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: What are we gonna do? So what else? I would 277 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: rather do nothing? 278 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 7: But other than nothing because it doesn't pay well, I've 279 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 7: tried it unemployment. Uh, the hours are great, the benefits 280 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 7: are and pay is pat so I don't recommend. However, 281 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 7: the benefits, I mean, the hours are great. But but 282 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 7: you know, that's the thing. It's like, I think there's 283 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 7: something about he's not gonna panic. Oh you know, we 284 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 7: just dropped two with three to the pirates. There's no 285 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 7: panic in Tito. He's been around this a long time, 286 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 7: and it's kind of it's been fun for me because 287 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 7: as as aht of noted, I've I've been around for 288 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 7: a long time, so like, you know, I go back 289 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 7: to my Sparky Anderson days or Fred Hutchinson or whoever 290 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 7: else was managing, and and like. 291 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: It's just like they know what they're doing. 292 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 7: And it's funny because you guys have been around enough 293 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 7: when you have covered someone for a long time that 294 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 7: you know not only the answers but you know what 295 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 7: questions and what type of answer questions will get the 296 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 7: answer you're looking for. And it's been kind of fun 297 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 7: to watch others who who are not as seasoned as 298 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 7: I am. Is that the right word? Uh Like, just 299 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 7: figure out what Tito's gonna answer and what he's not. 300 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 7: And that is one of those things. I always love 301 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 7: you get the comments, so you don't ask the hard questions. No, 302 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 7: I asked the questions differently. I also don't always ask 303 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 7: them on camera, thank you very much. Uh And and 304 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 7: just because you ask somebody a question doesn't give you 305 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 7: doesn't mean they're gonna give you the answer to. 306 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: That you want. 307 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 7: So it's one of those things. It's just kind of fun. 308 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 7: There's there's a learning curve with any new manager. I mean, 309 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 7: you guys felt that last year, right for sure, you know, 310 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 7: and and so for covering someone it is just a 311 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 7: little different. 312 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 4: But it's been good. 313 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 7: He's you know, I'm pretty comfortable with the guy who's 314 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 7: an old school baseball guy. 315 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 4: You get, you know, you have that rhythm that. 316 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 7: You can get into and what's gonna what's gonna work, 317 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 7: and what's gonna not. 318 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: So it's been fun. He's He's obviously good at what 319 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 4: he does. 320 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 7: So whether they're you know, five hundred or five games 321 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 7: under five hundred or five games over five hundred after 322 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 7: sixty games or whatever it is, you know what he 323 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 7: knows that's sixty games and there's no panic. And this 324 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 7: team has kind of been up and down. But you 325 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 7: look at the roster and like, Okay, yeah, this is 326 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 7: a team that's probably a five hundred ish team. If 327 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 7: things break their way, sure they can win eighty eight 328 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 7: ninety games. If they don't, they can lose eighty eight 329 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 7: ninety games. And I think we'll see that over the year. 330 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 7: And I'm just I think it's nice. It is interesting 331 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 7: to have someone who has that perspective that I think 332 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 7: Tito wants to win every game, but he also realizes 333 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 7: and this is a line I've used many times and 334 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 7: I'm a big believer, and it is a manager's game 335 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 7: in the regular season isn't to win every game. It's 336 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 7: to win the most games. And those are two different things. 337 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 7: Now postseason win. 338 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Sure, let's take a quick break, and I have a 339 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: question about the offense when we get back. 340 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 5: Trent, I just want to say, before Arena Club, if 341 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 5: you were trying to very actively buy sell trade. It 342 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 5: was very complicated and used a lot of mail that 343 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 5: was unnecessary. 344 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 7: I don't know I even know how to do it, 345 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 7: But I'm glad we have Arena Club now because it's 346 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 7: a one stop shop for everything card related. 347 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 5: It is and right now you can get twenty percent 348 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 5: off your first slab pack or your first card purchase 349 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 5: by going to Arena club dot com. Slash foul, use 350 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 5: code foul. If you're a collector, you've got to check 351 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 5: out Arena Club. 352 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: Go get after it, all right, Trent. 353 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: The offense for me is where I thought this team 354 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: would be stronger. Obviously, Elie d la Cruz is not 355 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: having the type of season that some people expected. I 356 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: thought Matt McClain was going to be a huge catalyst 357 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: for this team. He's struggling. Will Bentson I think just 358 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: recently came back and one player of the week, that's 359 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: right right He's so is the offense trending in a 360 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: better direction right now? And maybe I haven't noticed? And 361 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: what's up with McLain and Ellie da la Cruz Because 362 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: I feel like, especially McLain, I thought he could be 363 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: like the guy that kind of stabilized things and got 364 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: them to be a more consistent offense. 365 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm a big believer. I buy long term Matt McClain. 366 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: I just do. I'm a big believer in Matt McClain. 367 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 7: I think a lot of it is missing a year, 368 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 7: and like not only missing a year, but missing your 369 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 7: second year in the big leagues. That second year in 370 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 7: the big leagues is so difficult, and you add going 371 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 7: around for that second year plus missing a year and 372 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 7: being some time off you've got to give. 373 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 4: I am not panicking over Matt McClain. 374 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 7: I think Tito has kind of done the right thing 375 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 7: where Okay, he put him in there at the beginning 376 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 7: he struggled, all right, Now not just put him at 377 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 7: the bottom of the order, you know, and and let 378 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 7: him go through. 379 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: The Other thing with Matt is is I'm. 380 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 7: Gonna look at it, but it just feels like he has. 381 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 4: Hit the ball hard and gotten some bad luck. 382 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 7: And you know, nobody ever wants to hear that, right, Yeah, 383 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 7: nobody loves hearing that, But it's also true sometimes because 384 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 7: in the end that's what you need to do. You 385 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 7: need to, like, you hit the ball hard, and you 386 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 7: hit it online and if you do that over time, 387 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 7: you'll be all right. 388 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: And and so like you know, he's he really is. 389 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 4: Like just. 390 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 7: I'm looking at his his Wow, his swift right and 391 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 7: strikeout right are terrible. Yeah, but he's a good He's 392 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 7: hitting the ball hard right, that's the thing. It's just 393 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 7: making that contact. And I think that's timing right. We've 394 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 7: seen he can do it. It's just getting in that groove. 395 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 7: And and I think that'll come around. But that's me. 396 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: Uh And and as far as Ellie goes is this 397 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: just is he And just like a mercurial player player 398 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: in general. 399 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 7: Well, I think you know, a guy like Ellie is 400 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 7: going to have some streaks. 401 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 4: And I think you know he he you know every day. 402 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 7: That you show up and see him on the field, 403 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 7: he could be the greatest player you've ever seen, right, 404 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 7: And I think you've seen some strides in. You know, 405 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 7: as bad as it looks, his strikeout rate is gone 406 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 7: from uh, the sixth percentile to the eleventh and Okay, 407 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 7: that's still not good, but you're getting better. You're seeing 408 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 7: those improvements. I think a lot of this is seeing 409 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 7: him try to become a more complete hitter, and that 410 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 7: has been helpful. He's you also have seen some what's 411 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 7: it called what I'm talking about to the you know, 412 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 7: you've seen some progress on the right side of the 413 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 7: belt of the plate batting right handed. So I think 414 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 7: that's good as well. And there's stuff and again I'm 415 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 7: I don't like ever reacting to small little bits, because 416 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 7: that's when, like you know, that's what observation bias is right, 417 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 7: it's overreaction to small samples, and baseball is a long 418 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 7: term I've seen better at bats from from Ellie de 419 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 7: la Cruz. I don't think there's anything that he's doing worse. 420 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 7: I think he actually looks better because he's more balanced, 421 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 7: you know, it's not as up and down, up and down, 422 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 7: and and so again, maybe maybe it's me just being 423 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 7: like he and not wanting to look up why it's different. 424 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 4: But maybe it's just. 425 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 7: Like I believe in these two guys and I have 426 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 7: for a long time, and fifty games doesn't doesn't do 427 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 7: anything for me, just as like I again, Will Benson 428 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 7: had a fantastic week. Do I think he is the 429 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 7: second coming of you know, you know it could Is 430 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 7: he the second coming of of of Eli del Cruz? 431 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 7: Or is he the second coming of Aristide Sequino. Yeah, 432 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 7: you know, and and. 433 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 4: I'm not. I think if there's anybody. 434 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 7: Who can do it through your will and adjustments, it 435 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 7: is Will Benson, who's just an incredible, incredible young man. 436 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 7: A young man. He's twenty six. Jesus, how old am I? 437 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 7: Why are you guys picking on me like this? 438 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 4: So, yeah, that's the thing. 439 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 7: It's like, those are two guys that I just don't 440 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 7: worry about long term. 441 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: I think they're going to figure it out. I mean. 442 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 7: And the other part is if you have them on 443 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 7: the field, they both changed the game. 444 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 4: They really do. 445 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 7: It's it's a matter of getting on base, and that's 446 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 7: going to be important. But Ellie de la Cruz is 447 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 7: the one of the best base runners in baseball. He's 448 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 7: taking fewer chances on the bases, which I think is 449 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 7: good and bad. You know, like anything, it has its 450 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 7: positives and negatives, and he's kind of reflecting more of 451 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 7: what the manager's asking. 452 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 4: Right. 453 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 7: So David Bell was a big believer in, Hey, we're 454 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 7: gonna press and sometimes we're gonna get thrown out. 455 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: You know. 456 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 7: David Bell, like the contact play was on anytime you're 457 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 7: at third base, and you know, Tito's a little less aggressive, 458 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 7: and he'll say that we're still aggressive, but within reason. Well, 459 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 7: you know, previously they just said, hey, Ellie, do what 460 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 7: you want. If you think you can get it, get it, 461 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 7: whereas maybe Tito's messages closer to if you know you 462 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 7: can get it, get it right. There's a there is 463 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 7: a slight difference, and so we've seen that. 464 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 4: And it's funny. 465 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 7: I've like got all these things like why isn't Ellie 466 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 7: hitting home runs? Why isn't he stealing basis, like, well, 467 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 7: he's got more home runs on the team than anybody 468 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 7: on the team, and he has more stolen bases than 469 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 7: anybody in the league. Okay, you know it's it's it's 470 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 7: all about expectations. That's kind of I think our expectations 471 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 7: for Ellie de la Cruz are I mean, they're show 472 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 7: Hay levels. Yeah, And and is that fair? And with 473 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 7: show hey, show hey it. You know where was show 474 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 7: hey at twenty two? Oh he was in Japan. He 475 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 7: wasn't even overhear yet, you know so I think that's 476 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 7: a lot of it is is what we expect. And 477 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 7: baseball is funny that way, whereas, like you know, most 478 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 7: other sports, you go to the gaming you expect. You know, 479 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 7: you're gonna see your guy and he's gonna you know, 480 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 7: Lebron James is gonna Lebron James that night. Well, baseball 481 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 7: you can go to like you can go to a 482 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 7: whole Angels series, well back in the day and say 483 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 7: Angels and say Mike Trout and he didn't Mike Trout. 484 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 7: Or or my aunt here's a better example. My aunt 485 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 7: went and it lives in Arizona. She went to a 486 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 7: Diamondbacks Dodgers game last year. 487 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 4: She got so. 488 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 7: Annoyed because the fans right behind her were just screaming, 489 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 7: show hey the whole time or no, it's oh Tony, 490 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 7: because I can hear her say it, and she's like, 491 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 7: and he. 492 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 4: Went over four, he didn't get a hit. He staks. 493 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 7: It's like, I think my aunt, like she's she's a 494 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 7: brilliant person, and I will trust her on anything about energy, 495 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 7: uh and and and those kind of things. She's an engineer, 496 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 7: but I don't trust her about baseball. 497 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 498 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 3: Call In terms of expectations here, I feel like the 499 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: Reds are one of those teams in the middle, like 500 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 3: that it's not as hopeless as Pittsburgh. They have not 501 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 3: maybe overachieved to the extent that the Brewers have in 502 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: recent years. 503 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: But I don't know. 504 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 3: When I watched the Reds from this distance, they always 505 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 3: have like nice, interesting position players. You have a pitching now, 506 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: they're attractive enough to draw Tito off his couch in Arizona. Like, 507 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 3: what is the scenario in which the Reds catch fire 508 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: and ruin the cub. 509 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 4: Season and chase them down in the division? Like, how 510 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 4: does that happen? 511 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 7: Okay, first, Ellie gets a little more consistent. Matt McClain 512 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 7: is Matt McClain. Austin Hayes stays healthy because when he's 513 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 7: been on the field this year, man, he hits Gavin 514 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 7: Lux continues to Gavin luck Bucks like it's I don't 515 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 7: think it's that far away. You know, you can squint 516 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 7: and see it. I'm not betting on it because I 517 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 7: know too much about baseball to ever bet on baseball 518 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 7: or in sports in general. 519 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: Because it's just I have long enough. 520 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 7: I remember his rookie year, Sid I bet this kid 521 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 7: will never remount to anything, and I was wrong. No, 522 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 7: So so like that that's part of it, and it's just, yeah, 523 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 7: I can see it. 524 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 4: There's a there's a way where it happens. 525 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 7: And in this division you don't look at any team 526 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 7: other than the Pirates and say, I know what's gonna happen. 527 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 7: And even the Pirates you had some hope a while early, 528 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 7: real early, it's gone and shattered like you know it does. 529 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 7: But like every other team, like the Cubs, I think 530 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 7: they're better offensively and don't know if that pitching holds 531 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 7: up all year. The Brewers, it looks like okay, I 532 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 7: mean they're they're kind of where the Cardinals were a 533 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 7: couple of years ago. It's like, oh your depeomagic died? 534 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 4: What happened? 535 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 6: You know? 536 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 7: And the Cardinals they're not very good. You look at 537 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 7: them and like they got hot and they did. 538 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 4: Well, But are they good? No, I don't know that 539 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 4: anybody in this division is good. 540 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 7: Every four of the teams in the division can be good, 541 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 7: But is anybody like even what are we fifty games 542 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 7: in somewhere around there? 543 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 4: Like where are we like? 544 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 7: And take away what I just said about betting and 545 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 7: that you shouldn't do that, although our sponsors would disagree, 546 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 7: I'm sure like, is there any team that you would 547 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 7: look at in this division right now and say, okay, 548 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 7: they're going to win this division. 549 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: I mean, since we're on a Cubs podcast, I'm gonna 550 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: say that the Cubs have the advantage. 551 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: But I don't. I'd never advantage, Like, yeah, you know 552 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: what they have. 553 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 4: They have the money advantage right now. 554 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're going to and they're going to be 555 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: very aggressive. Oh we lost Trent. Uh, well, I'm assuming 556 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to use technology. 557 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: Oh wait, he's he's back. Did you just did you 558 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: just remove yourself? 559 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 4: Trent? 560 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: All right, well we'll. 561 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 4: Take we'll take the head. I tried to do something. 562 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: All right, well this is oh my goodness. We're gonna 563 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: leave you with this. 564 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 4: Trent. Trent over under on Connor Joe. 565 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: Hits seven this weekend. He is a Cubs killer. 566 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: You may not be aware of that since he's just 567 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: joined the Reds, but he will. He will kill the 568 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: Cubs this weekend. Just to give you a heads up. 569 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: All the all the listeners right now are nodding along 570 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: and cursing Connor Joe's name because I I've watched him. 571 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 4: Now. 572 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: This will be the third or fourth team, maybe the 573 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: fourth team he's been with, Yes, fourth team because. 574 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 4: Red when he's a rule five pick by the Reds 575 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 4: one year. 576 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: Okay, but I've seen him. 577 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: I've seen him beat up on the cubs, with the Rockies, 578 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: the Pirates, the Padres, and now it'll be the Reds. 579 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 2: He will he. 580 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: Will come up with a big hit, or he will 581 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: hit a three run homer. Something will happen. It's just 582 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: the reality of the situation. I'm just preparing you for that. 583 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: Get your Connor Joe's story written. 584 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 4: I love that, you know. 585 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 7: I say, hey, never bet on baseball. That's a terrible idea, 586 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 7: And yet here we are yet another betting line, the over. 587 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 7: So I will show you, like how brilliant I am 588 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 7: that I know I'm dumb, and I'm gonna go with under, 589 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 7: which means over is gonna win, and I will look dumb. 590 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 7: But hey, man, that's what I've done this whole time, 591 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 7: Like everybody was like, why do you have this idiot on? 592 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 7: He can't even work a computer, And and for that, 593 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 7: I just said, get off my lawn, crazy kids. 594 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: Grant, thanks so much for joining us. Make sure to 595 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: read Trent's work over at the Athletic. Appreciate your time. Man, 596 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: We'll see you soon. 597 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: Take it easy, say you guys, all right? Patrick here 598 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: we go. 599 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna do our arena club player spotlight. Okay, Patrick, 600 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: I think the player we're gonna focus on today is 601 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker. Kyle Tucker had six hits, six hits against Miami. 602 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: He was kind of the guy that got things going 603 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: on Wednesday and Tuesday and Wednesday he got the he 604 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: got the offense going. He was the entire offense for 605 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: the most part on Wednesday. 606 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 607 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: He has a one fifty seven way to run screat 608 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: at plus slash land two seventy eight, three eighty seven, 609 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: five point fifty two. This man is everything the Cubs wanted. 610 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: They paid a hefty price. You know, Cam Smith is 611 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: maybe not tearing the cover off the ball right now, 612 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: but he's a young, talented kid. 613 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 2: Uh. 614 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: Esak Pritis is doing everything everyone expected he would in Uh. 615 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,959 Speaker 2: Uh is it DACD what's the name of the park? 616 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: What in Houston let let let. 617 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 4: On Field? Maybe I don't know. 618 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 2: Uh. 619 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: And you know, Hayden was nesk. He's on the shelf 620 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: with TJ. But still they gave up a lot to 621 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: get Kyle Tucker. I don't think anybody nobody should be complaining. 622 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: This is just a remarkable level of production. 623 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm trying to be less online, but you know, 624 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 3: his Tucker's performance dipped a little bit, and I think 625 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 3: there was some chatter on social media about that. I 626 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 3: just think it's impressive what he brings to the table 627 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: every day, and that even you know, if he wasn't 628 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 3: maybe crushing the ball there for a little bit, you know, 629 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: a couple games in late April, there are pockets in 630 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 3: May still contributing at a really high level, taking his walks, 631 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 3: setting an example, taking pressure off teammates. I think, like 632 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: we started the show this season, while he's had some 633 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 3: unscripted moments thus far, the overall body of work the 634 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: Cubs would have taken it in spring training, and like 635 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker is at the top of that list, like 636 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 3: really well liked teammates, like a tone setter for the 637 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 3: entire tire lineup. 638 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 4: I think what Joe Madden. 639 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 3: Liked to call a force multiplier who just makes the 640 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 3: players around him better, Like the Cubs pieces just fit 641 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 3: nicer because of what he does in so many phases 642 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 3: of the game. 643 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I absolutely agree force multiplayers a good way to 644 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: describe it. Takes the offense to another level. Obviously, young 645 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: guys stepping up. He's not alone in this lineup, but 646 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: he deserves a lot of credit for kind of bringing 647 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: it to another level. All right, Patrick, let's check out 648 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: the slab pack we ripped from our friends with Arena Club. 649 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: So let's see who do we got here. This is 650 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: not Kyle Tucker from my understanding, it is Jacob Robinson. 651 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 2: That is a fancy card. 652 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: I'm a card collector, Patrick, I collected a lot of 653 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: cards as a kid. I started collecting again in the 654 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: pandemic with my son, so I'm into this. 655 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 2: You know you can you can trade this. 656 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: You can use the buyback program from Arena Club to 657 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: get Kyle Tucker's card if that's if you so want 658 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: to these are This is fun stuff. I love collecting 659 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: with my kid. He actually got a bunch of stuff 660 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: from his grandpa recently. Even though he's a teenager now, 661 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: he's still you know, I don't want to call him 662 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: out to his friends. Maybe maybe his friends don't want 663 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: me to say this, but he still opens cards with me. 664 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: I think it's fun. 665 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 5: I just want to say before Arena Club. 666 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: What I wanted to hit. 667 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: Right now, you can get twenty percent of your first 668 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: lab pack or card purchase by going to arenaclub dot 669 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: com slash foul and use codefoul. That's arenaclub dot com 670 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 1: slash foul, code foul for twenty percent off your first purchase. Yeah, 671 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, baseball cards I think are just kind of 672 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: the heartbeat of baseball and my youth. I know that 673 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: I did a lot of it with my dad, and 674 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: I do it a lot with my son now, and 675 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: it's still fun for me. 676 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 3: I've had a similar experience of you know, did it 677 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 3: as a kid and then as my son got into 678 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 3: the game. Like, it's kind of amazing how cards are 679 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 3: kind of timeless and how once you're at a certain age, 680 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 3: like it really draws you in. And to get a 681 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 3: Jackie Robinson, you know, a real piece of history. It's 682 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 3: pretty cool. 683 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, Patrick, We will be back next week 684 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: with more episodes. We will have a weekend slate of 685 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: Reds games. We'll see the Reds are always dangerous and 686 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: they're painting the Cubs, but whether they're good or bad, 687 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: so you know, we'll see how this weekend goes. The 688 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: Cubs have been playing well through like maybe not. I 689 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: think we both agree they're not playing their best baseball. 690 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: But they're winning the games against the bad teams, and 691 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: that's so huge. We cannot forget twenty two three and 692 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: how that what happened when they sunk against some some 693 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: bad teams early on in the season and that bit them. 694 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 2: So win these. 695 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: Games, win series, try and try and get through this 696 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: easy stretch looking good. Uh and then and then you know, 697 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: we'll see where they are come June or yeah, June 698 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: and July. 699 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 2: All right, thanks so much for listening. 700 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: This is Northside Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs podcast. 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