Speaker 1: Welcome into the Ravens Press Pass podcast. The Ravens had
Speaker 1: another day of voluntary workouts today. We had a chance
Speaker 1: to hear from defensive coordinator Mike McDonald and outside linebackers
Speaker 1: David A. Jabo and a dafe O Way. Take a
Speaker 1: listen to what they had to say.
Speaker 2: All right, great to see everybody again thinking about it today.
Speaker 2: It's been a minute since we uh talk last. But
Speaker 2: I feel like you guys felt the energy out there.
Speaker 2: So the guys, the guys are here, they're doing a
Speaker 2: great job. We're mentally we're in the right spot, but
Speaker 2: we know we're at in the process too, are very
Speaker 2: very early stages of just trying to build our defense
Speaker 2: back to you know, to the point we can get
Speaker 2: rolling and build our foundation going to training camp.
Speaker 3: So here we are.
Speaker 4: With with with David from last year and now this year,
Speaker 4: we can talk about the killers.
Speaker 5: Where do you think he is physically?
Speaker 4: I know you're very limited what you do after her,
Speaker 4: but what do you see out that's physically right now?
Speaker 3: Well, I think Jamison.
Speaker 2: The first thing is is he has a full year
Speaker 2: of the of the program, you know, to to physically
Speaker 2: get himself, you know, to a spot actually talking to
Speaker 2: somebody out there today.
Speaker 3: I mean, he looks great.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's put on some good weight, you know,
Speaker 2: and looks stronger and looks fast right now. And I think,
Speaker 2: you know, more than anything, mentally, I think he's in
Speaker 2: a great spot as well. So I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: see a lot of confidence from him, you know throughout
Speaker 2: the process.
Speaker 3: That's that's great to see him in good spirits.
Speaker 6: May be ready for train it here first states.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, as far as I know, he's ready to
Speaker 3: roll today.
Speaker 5: You used a lot of three safeties last year.
Speaker 1: Is that something that you would like to keep doing?
Speaker 1: Is that was that more of a function of the
Speaker 1: personnelity you had?
Speaker 7: What's your fault on that?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yes, I ended up being just a function of who
Speaker 2: he felt like gave us the best chance to win.
Speaker 2: And to Kyle's credit, you know, he hadn't gotten a
Speaker 2: lot of reps at Nickel throughout the process. But you know,
Speaker 2: as we as we got Roque and wanted to keep
Speaker 2: p Q on the field as well, that was that's
Speaker 2: just like that was the right decision and obviously, and
Speaker 2: you know worked out for us and his credit, you know,
Speaker 2: he kind of fit in seamlessly, so you know, moving forward,
Speaker 2: that's what this process is all about, you know, figuring out,
Speaker 2: uh who has earned a job and who who's who
Speaker 2: earns the right to be out there and uh and
Speaker 2: play for us. How many safeties we have out there?
Speaker 2: You know that'll that'll depend on the situation. Could we
Speaker 2: do three safeties again?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: You know you could have more of a nickel body
Speaker 2: in there this year. I think, you know, depending on
Speaker 2: who ends up earning that spot.
Speaker 8: Like what makes Rock you said a good fit for
Speaker 8: this defense? And I guess even if just from Afar,
Speaker 8: what your impressions and def as a player?
Speaker 3: Yeah, with Rocket, I mean the best combining.
Speaker 2: He's so he's physical and he's such an aggressive player
Speaker 2: and uh, just that type of demeanor just fits in
Speaker 2: great here. And you know he looks great out there
Speaker 2: moving around, so uh, you know, we're excited to see
Speaker 2: what he can do and then what he can bring
Speaker 2: to the table for us.
Speaker 6: Ian how much does this kind of you know, a
Speaker 6: lot has made about attendance.
Speaker 9: I know this is all voluntary, but before we're only
Speaker 9: out here a couple of days. But see Marlin, it's
Speaker 9: his Twitter feed and he kind of lets you know
Speaker 9: where he is. It seems like he's been around most
Speaker 9: of the time. How much you see sort of set
Speaker 9: the tone form something like this by being here every
Speaker 9: day and being.
Speaker 5: Going for and all that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, I mean, it's huge for us.
Speaker 2: And those are conversations that that we've had with Marlon
Speaker 2: and guys like Roque and and you know, just encourage
Speaker 2: them to kind of take the team by the horns
Speaker 2: and and make.
Speaker 3: It their team.
Speaker 2: And some of the conversations we had last year was, hey,
Speaker 2: it was great that we hit our stride at some
Speaker 2: at fine you know, at some point in the season,
Speaker 2: but let's why don't we do that earlier? And having
Speaker 2: the guys around and building camaraderie and building a team
Speaker 2: chemistry is is a is a.
Speaker 3: Great byproduct of this whole process.
Speaker 2: As well as you know, improving your individual skills and
Speaker 2: under the skin of the scheme and all that kype
Speaker 2: of stuff. But that's really the biggest part in my
Speaker 2: opinion about this kind of a stage of the of
Speaker 2: a of the off season.
Speaker 6: My concerns of the rookies trying previous how you Amazin.
Speaker 10: Stood out in the party different film.
Speaker 3: Not really not yet no.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they got they're in a great spot.
Speaker 2: I mean their eyes, you know, they got big eyes
Speaker 2: right now in the meetings, and it's a lot for them.
Speaker 2: It's kind of they're drinking about it from the fire
Speaker 2: hose right now, and that's good thing, you know. So
Speaker 2: but it's a process and you know, they right have
Speaker 2: the right mentality as of right now. So I mean
Speaker 2: I commend him on that. But there's nothing really to
Speaker 2: evaluate from, you know, on the field so far.
Speaker 1: And like, how how different is this process this year
Speaker 1: compared to a year ago. You know, now you're probably
Speaker 1: bability on what you kind of put into place last
Speaker 1: year rather than thinking between some changes last year.
Speaker 6: How different is it?
Speaker 2: Well, I think here in the same language for the
Speaker 2: second year in a row, goes a long way from
Speaker 2: the guys, you know. I think they expected a lot
Speaker 2: of the things that we were doing prior and a
Speaker 2: lot of the words that we were using stay the same.
Speaker 2: We end up changing a good bit of vocabulary, so
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a learning process to go
Speaker 2: with that, you know, with any new system.
Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot.
Speaker 2: I think there's more interest things that tweak going into
Speaker 2: this year as well, So you know, there is going
Speaker 2: to be a process to go through it and things
Speaker 2: we need to kind of iron out as we go,
Speaker 2: you know, But I think you kind of have an
Speaker 2: envision in mind where last year we're kind of letting
Speaker 2: it see where I was gonna go, you know, based
Speaker 2: on who we had and who could do what with
Speaker 2: going into year three?
Speaker 11: Is there an area of his game that you're kind
Speaker 11: of focusing on this offs line?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: You know, No, I mean the things we encourage Doff
Speaker 2: to do is the things he's doing every day. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's he's coming with a great attitude. He's he's here,
Speaker 2: he's working hard, and that's all we're asking me to
Speaker 2: do right now is just focus on the process and
Speaker 2: let the results happen with you know, the work that
Speaker 2: you're putting in, and he's doing that.
Speaker 3: So to commend on on kind of his daily approach
Speaker 3: right now, like, do you.
Speaker 9: Think there were times last year when we're in a
Speaker 9: saxophonren't coming, maybe some frustration set in with him?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the obvious answer is probably yes.
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I'm sure anytime you're not getting
Speaker 2: the production that you want or expecting your personal goals.
Speaker 3: That's probably a source of frustration.
Speaker 2: But you know, I look back at last year and
Speaker 2: he's We're putting together the teach tapes and things and
Speaker 2: Chucks watching them, and we're saying, hey man, this guy's
Speaker 2: doing a lot of good stuff for us. And you know,
Speaker 2: does that show up on the on the on the statue.
Speaker 2: May not, maybe not, But the guy rushed outside, he
Speaker 2: rushed inside. I thought he really caught a stride at
Speaker 2: the end of the year. And you know, the sacks,
Speaker 2: I think that I just I really believe that they'll
Speaker 2: they'll come. You know, I'm really not I'm not worried
Speaker 2: about where what sack number is gonna end up at.
Speaker 2: But I think we're gonna be pleased where he's at.
Speaker 5: Would be more of an inside guy, you know.
Speaker 3: Or gay their job up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think I think he can rush inside
Speaker 2: and out. You know, I pay the skill set. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, it just gets on you a little bit quicker inside.
Speaker 2: So that's something you've got to get.
Speaker 3: Used to a little bit.
Speaker 2: But you know, we'll probably start him outside and see
Speaker 2: where Ghostmari. Similar to what we did with with a
Speaker 2: Dafe last year with.
Speaker 4: The Jabo last year, it was I mean it was
Speaker 4: pretty I seemed like he was ahead of the curve.
Speaker 4: Even getting back to suit up last year, he was
Speaker 4: an active more than he was what would have went
Speaker 4: to the reasoning of.
Speaker 5: You know, having him suit up, but I don't think
Speaker 5: he was only active for two game days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the outside backer, it's always a numbers issue
Speaker 2: of just how many reps you can you can get
Speaker 2: him out there, and we stayed pretty healthy once we
Speaker 2: got to that that kind of that.
Speaker 3: Critical number around the Saints game.
Speaker 2: So at just at that point of the year, it
Speaker 2: was just, hey, how can we make sure we're getting
Speaker 2: the guys enough reps when you know, if we're going
Speaker 2: to suit him up, it just there wasn't gonna be
Speaker 2: as many reps for him, and you know, those reps
Speaker 2: had needed to go somewhere else for us to you know,
Speaker 2: try to win the game.
Speaker 11: We're just how important was the classroom work last year?
Speaker 11: You know, does it feel like mentally he's a year
Speaker 11: two player, you know, he has kind of experience why
Speaker 11: he is the closer to a rookie. It was that
Speaker 11: really valuable experience for him in the classroom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure it was.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of things that were there's
Speaker 2: a lot of carryover from what he had heard when
Speaker 2: we were at Michigan. So I think just you know,
Speaker 2: for rookies that the process of not having a this
Speaker 2: is what you're doing from sun up to sundown, coming
Speaker 2: to a building like this, talking to guys like Josh
Speaker 2: Ross and just what it takes to be a professional,
Speaker 2: you know, and taking care of your body and preparing
Speaker 2: and things like that.
Speaker 3: It's not an easy process.
Speaker 2: You know, all of a sudden, it's someone telling you
Speaker 2: what to do all the time to now you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of those decisions you have to make on
Speaker 2: your own. And to his credit, I mean, there wasn't
Speaker 2: really a false step. I mean through all the rehab
Speaker 2: and stuff. Someone mentioned it earlier. I mean he's ahead
Speaker 2: of schedule and he was healthy once you were ready
Speaker 2: to go, But you know, it just didn't number wise,
Speaker 2: just didn't shake out coming.
Speaker 5: Off of un or either Michael years.
Speaker 2: See, yeah, it's been it's been great to see Mike
Speaker 2: and I guess you guys you saw the start that
Speaker 2: he was off to last year, so you know, it
Speaker 2: was disappointed to lose him. It was an opportunity for
Speaker 2: the other guys to step in and do a good
Speaker 2: job for us in the middle. Can rattle off all
Speaker 2: those guys, but you know, I mean, they do just
Speaker 2: do a great job. But having Mike back in the
Speaker 2: middle of defense will definitely be a big, big point
Speaker 2: of contention for us moving forward.
Speaker 3: But I'm excited to see what he does.
Speaker 5: Like that.
Speaker 12: It was early days, but what's I guess impressed you
Speaker 12: were shouting out to you about what Chuck Smith was brought.
Speaker 10: To that position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chuck's been great, man, He's just he's a great guy.
Speaker 2: I didn't really known him much, you know, prior to
Speaker 2: this whole process, so getting to know him and his family,
Speaker 2: his background. He's from Athens, Georgia, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 2: Clark Central not Cedar Shills unfortunately, but we.
Speaker 3: Can get over that. But yeah, he's he's been great,
Speaker 3: and he's he's added a lot of value to that room.
Speaker 2: And him and we were working great together, Matt, those guys,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just really cool how they're blending the
Speaker 2: skills between both positions and getting it taught on the field,
Speaker 2: and the guys are the guys are jacked up, and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of enthusiasm and it's just it's exciting
Speaker 2: time this time of year, like with here.
Speaker 6: Here a defensive line.
Speaker 11: Obviously there's not too many humans on Earthly plays Campbell,
Speaker 11: how do you go about kind of replacing him and
Speaker 11: what are your thoughts on your young accounts and defense on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously we love Glais and uh, I
Speaker 2: don't think you look at it like we're trying to
Speaker 2: replace him. You know, there's things that he does that
Speaker 2: not a lot of people, like you said, can do
Speaker 2: on the on the field. So you know, there's there's
Speaker 2: things that will get kind of piece wised, you know
Speaker 2: that we bring, you know, whether it's interior rush or
Speaker 2: you know, playing kind of all all across the line
Speaker 2: on early downs.
Speaker 3: You know, and we have the guys that do it,
Speaker 3: but we have a great young core d Lineman.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great opportunity for for Matt a bike,
Speaker 2: for for Brody to to really step up their interior
Speaker 2: pass rush game. Travis Jones second year, I mean, he's
Speaker 2: looking really good out there, so you know, just to
Speaker 2: get just an opportunity and again, like you know, we're
Speaker 2: flexible with personnel group, so we could we could sub
Speaker 2: it out, put put another outside backer body in there.
Speaker 2: I could put a d B body on the game
Speaker 2: inside back er, So it's flexible at this point.
Speaker 6: Do you see Piers as I are kind of helving
Speaker 6: and that subsiding of using.
Speaker 2: Camp that was up Pierce, you said, uh, yeah, just
Speaker 2: just having another VET guy that's done it at a
Speaker 2: high level. Man, of course that's gonna help us. Uh,
Speaker 2: different position, different skill set. But I think I think
Speaker 2: Michael Pierce is an underrated interior rusher too, So you know,
Speaker 2: when when the time comes, I think you'll see what
Speaker 2: he can do, you know, and pass downs as well.
Speaker 10: There're two more guys, Mike.
Speaker 12: The defense really came strong, came on strong at the
Speaker 12: end of last year, just to fite you guys on
Speaker 12: having that you know, all our pass rush if you
Speaker 12: get these kind of you know, year of a year improvements,
Speaker 12: especially for some of those guys who are a little.
Speaker 6: Bit banged up the next last year.
Speaker 12: But what does it kind of just do for for
Speaker 12: what this team, what this defense can do in twenty
Speaker 12: twenty three.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think it's about always trying to
Speaker 2: push the envelope forward and keep improving, you know, so
Speaker 2: I think I think a lot of the credit that
Speaker 2: was from our improvement throughout the course of last year. Again,
Speaker 2: you know, really looking forward to this year. But it's
Speaker 2: just the guys mentality of trying to improve and trying
Speaker 2: to keep them getting better until can we find a
Speaker 2: sweet spot of where we kind of live schematically and
Speaker 2: we're comfortable with that. So you know, this year, really
Speaker 2: the mentality is like we want to just keep.
Speaker 3: Taking our game to the next level, whatever the situation is.
Speaker 2: You know right now that the whole mentality is not
Speaker 2: it's like it's hard to run plays on air against
Speaker 2: our sof you see our offense, they're running plays, you know,
Speaker 2: a million plays a day. Like there's nobody out there
Speaker 2: run plays against for us. So we got to work
Speaker 2: on our skills. It's a great opportunity for us to
Speaker 2: work our fundamentals and really build our our foundation.
Speaker 3: Is really the message right now.
Speaker 2: So you know we move into actually start practice OTAs
Speaker 2: and really training campus kind of a focus right now
Speaker 2: that we can hit the ground run and we have
Speaker 2: a solid foundation moving forward.
Speaker 13: Like you go back to jab O Flack College, he's
Speaker 13: a late bloomer anyway, or got a late start to football.
Speaker 13: People talk about a guy's ceiling like, you know, having
Speaker 13: a heinzen. Do you look at him still as being
Speaker 13: a guy like in ceiling?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Harves talks about it.
Speaker 2: With all your players, you need we got you have
Speaker 2: a have a big vision for your guys. And if
Speaker 2: if they're not setting their goals high enough and your
Speaker 2: vision isn't big enough for your players, like you're not
Speaker 2: doing the right things, especially as a coach. So of course,
Speaker 2: I mean we have we have big visions for for
Speaker 2: John and the things that he that we want him
Speaker 2: to be able to do. And you know, I just
Speaker 2: don't look at last year as a setback. It's just's
Speaker 2: he's here and he's developed. That he had all this
Speaker 2: time to to learn the scheme, to learn the drills,
Speaker 2: to build the foundation to get physically stronger mentally isn't
Speaker 2: a great spot.
Speaker 3: So I think it's all positive.
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Speaker 10: Yeah. Man, it's a blessing man just getting better every
Speaker 10: day and building camaraderie, you know, uh, building the old brotherhood.
Speaker 5: What you weighted you gain Avid since uh be injury?
Speaker 10: Uh, probably a solid like ten pounds. You know, I
Speaker 10: lost some, you know, just kind of being inactive. So
Speaker 10: I put it on a solid by ten pounds of muscle. Yeah,
Speaker 10: I appreciate it.
Speaker 7: How would you describe your excitement for this year given like.
Speaker 10: Kind of the road that when you was going, Yeah, man,
Speaker 10: like I said, just a blessing. Uh and uh I
Speaker 10: just can't wait, you know. Uh, I've never been injured before. Uh,
Speaker 10: I've never had to just sit down and uh, testing
Speaker 10: my patience, but uh it was definitely for the better.
Speaker 5: How was that experience for you?
Speaker 12: If you talk about that, that being around everything but
Speaker 12: not being able to play.
Speaker 10: Yeah, man, it's uh you gotta stay close to God,
Speaker 10: cause definitely a test uh my patience, you know, just
Speaker 10: tryna trying to rush things, but also knowing that I
Speaker 10: gotta do it the right way. Uh. But it all
Speaker 10: worked out for good man. I'm back hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 6: They mean you when you were.
Speaker 12: Drafted that that was gonna be essentially a red shirt
Speaker 12: season and and they were gonna be expecting.
Speaker 6: Things from you afterwards.
Speaker 12: Now that time is caught you feel that pressure and
Speaker 12: excitement and what's that feel like for you?
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's never pressure, man, It's just what we do.
Speaker 10: Cause I'm just excited to be out there, uh with
Speaker 10: my brothers and just do play football.
Speaker 7: John mentioned earlier this year, you know, critical got off
Speaker 7: yourself to step up the and with the injury behind you,
Speaker 7: sort of where do you feel like you're happening process
Speaker 7: of development and where you want to be getting into
Speaker 7: the season.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, uh, these OTAs have been critical man.
Speaker 10: Just uh, you know, the playbook's never been a problem,
Speaker 10: cause you know I had it uh in Michigan. But
Speaker 10: I mean it's just getting better day by day. Man.
Speaker 10: Uh when I see it every day. Uh oh, our
Speaker 10: whole brother again better too. So it's a whole union effort.
Speaker 5: You know what Chuck Smith brought on him.
Speaker 10: He's a guru. You know, he's at guru. He's he's
Speaker 10: just bringing the best side of us and he brings
Speaker 10: a lot of energy.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 10: You know, lets us be ourselves, you know, let's us
Speaker 10: lets us kind of like dance off the ball. And uh,
Speaker 10: I'm really excited, you know, just to see how how
Speaker 10: our development comes.
Speaker 5: And said he goes with the season yet.
Speaker 10: Uh we all we all playing towards the super Bowl. Man,
Speaker 10: that's it, you know, as a team, you know, and uh,
Speaker 10: the more close we stay together, yeah, we we gonna
Speaker 10: do incredible things.
Speaker 5: A At this point, do you even think or feel
Speaker 5: about it at least at all? Is that even id?
Speaker 5: Is that anything into your thought process at all?
Speaker 10: The h Yeah, honestly, I'm tired of hearing about it,
Speaker 10: you know, I'm really tired. I'm in It's in my past.
Speaker 10: I've grown from it, It's made me stronger, and uh yeah,
Speaker 10: I'm I'm ready to move on from it. Man, I'm
Speaker 10: one hundred and ten percent. Uh yeah, physically.
Speaker 7: Where you feel like you are, obviously it's a helpful
Speaker 7: putting How does that.
Speaker 6: Prepare to where you moved for the and you close
Speaker 6: to that that.
Speaker 10: I honestly feel better, you know, I swear I feel better,
Speaker 10: Uh feel more explosive and uh you know, I'm just
Speaker 10: like I said, right to put put on the show.
Speaker 11: How much did that sack strip at the end of
Speaker 11: last year and really your only game with significant action,
Speaker 11: how much did that kind of boost your competence? Say, hey, man,
Speaker 11: I'm here, I I can play this.
Speaker 10: Level yeah, I mean the only game I really played
Speaker 10: to kind of just continue doing what I was doing
Speaker 10: in college. You know it just it kind of as
Speaker 10: made me feel like I belong and again kind of
Speaker 10: get me more excited for this upcoming season.
Speaker 5: What are your big uh the add of strength is
Speaker 5: gonna do for you? As far as you know what
Speaker 5: you want?
Speaker 10: Do you wanna feel? Yeah, it's it's more confidence, you know, uh,
Speaker 10: you know, be more stable than myself, you know, growing
Speaker 10: up against grown men now, so you know it's I
Speaker 10: just a uh a big confidence boost.
Speaker 9: See how long did you take until after the last
Speaker 9: season before you started training and.
Speaker 6: Working setting goals for this or?
Speaker 14: Uh?
Speaker 10: Can you repeat that?
Speaker 5: So? How long did you take a break after last season?
Speaker 10: Or did you go right into it? Or yeah, I
Speaker 10: mean y your buddy or breakdown if you don't. So
Speaker 10: I took a you know, a month break, went back
Speaker 10: home to Scotland see my family, you know, madech made
Speaker 10: sure they felt the love, and then I was right
Speaker 10: back in here and working with my brother A Dafe.
Speaker 10: We've been crafting all off season, you know, cause we
Speaker 10: got big goals.
Speaker 11: What are the emotions going back to the UK to
Speaker 11: to play the game, and is there any piece of
Speaker 11: advice that you'll give your teammates for gom?
Speaker 10: Uh the emotions, Uh, man, God's plan, you know it
Speaker 10: just spinning back home and uh being around surrounding my
Speaker 10: by my people. I know, my people from Scotland's gonna
Speaker 10: come watch and uh you know any advice, man, Just
Speaker 10: embrace it. You know it's a lot different, uh than America.
Speaker 10: You know, the accents, different environment, different, but you know
Speaker 10: it's gonna it's gonna be a blessed experience.
Speaker 6: You just mentioned adape.
Speaker 8: How important is that friendship?
Speaker 6: Has that friendship been to your career?
Speaker 8: And you thinking about being able to play with him
Speaker 8: at this level coming this fall?
Speaker 6: You know what does that mean to you?
Speaker 10: Honestly, I see as a brotherhood at this point. You
Speaker 10: know we we lived in the same dorm and in
Speaker 10: high school. You know, he went off to Pennsy I'm
Speaker 10: Michigan and now you know everybody be playing across from
Speaker 10: each other. Man, it's just everything to me, you know,
Speaker 10: just you know, make me feel more. You know at home,
Speaker 10: you know, feel feel the love and you know support,
Speaker 10: especially through my injury.
Speaker 5: Do you guys ever taught in high school in the dorm. Hey,
Speaker 5: we'll play together the NFL for baby.
Speaker 10: That's up. Nah, honestly, I mean you gotta realize we
Speaker 10: we just started playing football. You know, he starts junior
Speaker 10: that I followed him, and uh, we're just taking it
Speaker 10: day by day. So that's this kind of just confirmation,
Speaker 10: like it's all guys playing for real. You know, you
Speaker 10: know we all met, we met back up, you know,
Speaker 10: at the highest level, and uh, just ready to see through.
Speaker 4: Is there any kind of motivation for last year where
Speaker 4: you know you you were for found town for it
Speaker 4: and said take anything.
Speaker 5: Is there any motivation to show Hey, you know I
Speaker 5: was saying in the second round, but I'm still a
Speaker 5: first found talent here.
Speaker 10: Yeah, man, I know I'm here for a reason. So
Speaker 10: the end of the day is just to come show
Speaker 10: what I got. And uh, again, like I said, as
Speaker 10: a team sport man, just win the Super Bowl so
Speaker 10: we could all win.
Speaker 12: Then you talk about winning the Super Bowl and that's
Speaker 12: the team's goal and that's the ultimate lever players individual
Speaker 12: goals like that.
Speaker 6: You also said you and jop Alway have losty goals
Speaker 6: for this season. Is there anything you wanted to share
Speaker 6: on kind of some of the personal.
Speaker 10: Stuff I think in particular. Man, just we just want
Speaker 10: to be impact players. Uh, we just want to be
Speaker 10: dependable and uh, make sure you do our job at
Speaker 10: the highest level, you know, so you know hard hards
Speaker 10: will be happy. Man. That's gonna go back to your
Speaker 10: college number. David sucks not letting me man. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 10: we had discussions. Man. Uh, you know it got a
Speaker 10: bit shoddy involved a little bit, but that's that's above
Speaker 10: me is a legend. Uh. So I'm gonna stick with
Speaker 10: ninety and well you try. I tried. I had to
Speaker 10: try to try to try, alright, but nah, he's not
Speaker 10: going for it. I mean, just go to the Bible studying,
Speaker 10: just you know, just kind of thank God for bringing
Speaker 10: me this far and uh and just go to sleep. Man.
Speaker 10: We gotta work tomorrow. So yeah, I can't do too much.
Speaker 6: Is there a a target playing wait for for you
Speaker 6: and mind career?
Speaker 10: Uh? Probably? I mean two fifty five. I'm comfortable. You know,
Speaker 10: I've know where you're at right now. Yeah, that's why
Speaker 10: I'm at. Uh. I've never really been focused on way. Uh,
Speaker 10: but you know I know our nutrition and strength staff though,
Speaker 10: don't guide me in the right direction.
Speaker 5: Right. So with your number now is your you know,
Speaker 5: you have to go to your secondary number. Do you
Speaker 5: have any kind of reason for that second number?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 5: Is there any kind of reason for for for your
Speaker 5: number down?
Speaker 10: Nah? Nor? I mean, if I'm being there, I was
Speaker 10: number seventy one in high school, so not Yeah, number
Speaker 10: number is not really mean much, you know. It's what
Speaker 10: you do with the number that you know.
Speaker 7: So yeah, you uh, you know you know that job
Speaker 7: better than anybody.
Speaker 6: Just how much do you think? How easier is he
Speaker 6: for this season?
Speaker 5: You show everybody what he could get?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 14: I think, you know, It's like, I'm just so excited
Speaker 14: for him to, you know, really show everybody who we like,
Speaker 14: who he really is is as like a player as
Speaker 14: a person. And I could tell, like cause we were
Speaker 14: working together in the off season, uh with with my
Speaker 14: gouy Mo and you you could just tell like he
Speaker 14: was motivating. He had a enter drive to just prove something,
Speaker 14: not just to everyone else but to himself. So you know,
Speaker 14: I'm really excited for what he can show.
Speaker 10: Ohing.
Speaker 6: What's it been like working with truck Spen so far?
Speaker 14: It's been good, you know, working with Chuck, He's like
Speaker 14: giving us a insight that. You know, a lot of
Speaker 14: guys like me in particularly like hasn't ha like hasn't
Speaker 14: had cause a lot of my coaches, you know, they're
Speaker 14: great coaches, but they haven't really played the position. And
Speaker 14: you know, he's played the position. He's trained a lot
Speaker 14: of guys that played the position at a high level.
Speaker 14: So you know, I'm getting a little titbits that you know,
Speaker 14: I wouldn't have necessarily gotten from you know, the pastes,
Speaker 14: past years and everything.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there is a natural you know, it's passed out
Speaker 7: if you guys presumably example something where you can think
Speaker 7: of that.
Speaker 14: How you you know, uh, I can't. I can't give
Speaker 14: you a pinpoint, you know, a way. But it's just
Speaker 14: the way his approaches. You know, he's obviously like he's
Speaker 14: serious about getting us better than everything, but he's also
Speaker 14: laid back and he also like knows in individually how
Speaker 14: to you know, tap into us, you know, cause we
Speaker 14: all have goals what we wanna do, you know, me,
Speaker 14: me and myself. But you know, I think he does
Speaker 14: a good job of being relatable and you know, being
Speaker 14: down to earth and everything, but also you know, holding
Speaker 14: out what we wanna do.
Speaker 6: A dofy, what are some of those goals for your great.
Speaker 10: Freedom, you know, I got those in my head.
Speaker 14: Man, I can't give that to y'all, but you know
Speaker 14: it's definitely the to be dominant, you know, and and
Speaker 14: and just you know, help our defense to be the
Speaker 14: the best thing that you know we can be this year.
Speaker 6: So can't valueate your last.
Speaker 14: Season, say it was a learning season, a year to
Speaker 14: develop and and and things like that. I got better,
Speaker 14: not just you know, on the field, just because knowing
Speaker 14: what I can I can work on, but you know,
Speaker 14: mentally and you know, as a player as a p professional,
Speaker 14: learning things you can work on and building on it
Speaker 14: as a man and everything. So you know, I feel like,
Speaker 14: you know, it was a good season for me in
Speaker 14: that aspect.
Speaker 10: When you watch the tape.
Speaker 12: Behind season, you see you're so close on so many plays,
Speaker 12: you know what were the emotions would kind of reflect.
Speaker 10: On that and it was like damn.
Speaker 14: But you know, like I said, it's like that's how
Speaker 14: life is. You know, you have you have, you know
Speaker 14: times that you don't get it, but it's what you
Speaker 14: do next and you can pick yourself up. You know
Speaker 14: a lot of times I was close, but it lets
Speaker 14: me know that you know I when I you know
Speaker 14: when I when it does click, and you know, when
Speaker 14: everything goes how how I want to it's gonna, I'm gonna,
Speaker 14: I'm gonna, I'm gonna sew. So you gotta look at
Speaker 14: it like that way, not not the negative way. So
Speaker 14: that's how I that's how I view how did.
Speaker 8: Feel like rushing from the inside, which seems like you
Speaker 8: flashed quite a bit doing that late in the season,
Speaker 8: And you know, how is that different than kind of
Speaker 8: health the.
Speaker 14: Enci It's a little different because he's coming to you
Speaker 14: right now. And I feel like it helped me because
Speaker 14: I could use some of my twitch and my length,
Speaker 14: you know, to create space stuff like that. So once
Speaker 14: I once I was doing that, it actually kind of freed,
Speaker 14: you like freed my mind and in terms of like
Speaker 14: what moves I wanted to do, and you know, I
Speaker 14: could incorporate that on the edge too. But I really
Speaker 14: liked it because once I beat it, I'm right in
Speaker 14: front of the QB, So you know I liked it.
Speaker 10: An ass, But do int your really what is your?
Speaker 7: What is the biggest tectic chap? Whs were as you
Speaker 7: feel life's been too To get into that next stuff.
Speaker 14: Just making sure you know you have a plan in
Speaker 14: your head, not just trying to react. You know there's
Speaker 14: a there's aspect of that you wanna react to, but
Speaker 14: making sure you have a plan. You know, uh rush
Speaker 14: angle and then ripping. A lot of times, you know
Speaker 14: I would get off the block, but it was kind
Speaker 14: of all balance. So when I got to the QB,
Speaker 14: you know, I wasn't taking a straight line shot. And
Speaker 14: it also upfield shoulder. There was a lot of times
Speaker 14: where you know I missed because of the upfield shoulder too.
Speaker 14: So little things like that.
Speaker 1: We got that your uh Ropeland modeling kind of setting
Speaker 1: it telling out there and you.
Speaker 5: Gotta be into better on ds of the suit.
Speaker 14: Yeah, Ropeland, you know, I manage man, you know always
Speaker 14: you know, the loudest guy in the room. Actually him
Speaker 14: and Martlely compete for that. But I would say, you know,
Speaker 14: they're really setting the tone and just being here and
Speaker 14: letting us know that guys that are established and you
Speaker 14: know have you know, got to places that we all
Speaker 14: wanna go are still year working and showing us you
Speaker 14: know the ropes and everything.
Speaker 5: You know, you know where God lot better than any
Speaker 5: of us. Will people called out ceilings. What would you
Speaker 5: say when the good.
Speaker 10: Sealing he doesn't have one.
Speaker 14: You know, he he's he's like he's smooth with his
Speaker 14: rush and then you know in the run game, he's
Speaker 14: all he's he's getting better every day. And he's so smart,
Speaker 14: like that's a lot of things people don't even understand,
Speaker 14: Like he's so savvy in that aspect as well. So
Speaker 14: his ceiling's crazy, Like he got a sack and you
Speaker 14: know he was off a kill one a killes man
Speaker 14: like y'all gotta think about things like that. So his
Speaker 14: his ceiling's crazy. Man, we got chucked to teach him,
Speaker 14: you know, and he his stories like me too. You
Speaker 14: know he started junior year. Yeah, and you know he's
Speaker 14: just sore since then. So you know, his ceilings he
Speaker 14: doesn't have one, you know, you know, yeah, you know, obviously.
Speaker 6: You weren't completely healthy.
Speaker 12: Loss of sage and now it was fiased not it
Speaker 12: was uh Nowams David, uh just w what is it
Speaker 12: kind of do for for you guys?
Speaker 10: And how good could this past fresh be.
Speaker 14: Especially on the age you know, we're all just getting
Speaker 14: to another year to you know, like this is the
Speaker 14: first year, you know, I didn't have a surgery or
Speaker 14: something like that. You know, David's coming off the Achilles,
Speaker 14: uh Ties is coming off the Achilles, and so you know,
Speaker 14: we're all just I wanna say a hundred percent, and
Speaker 14: you know we gotta we gotta a lot of time,
Speaker 14: you know, just honing our skills and not just you know,
Speaker 14: trying to get our bodies back to where you know,
Speaker 14: where we wanna be. So you know it's really gonna help,
Speaker 14: you know, and you know for me it's j It's
Speaker 14: helped me as well because I can hone in on
Speaker 14: getting stronger, I can go, I can hone in on
Speaker 14: you know, getting better in the playbook and stuff like that.
Speaker 14: So it should be good for all three.
Speaker 6: Did you play wait that you want to play at?
Speaker 14: Yeah, I wanna say, like anything around the two fifty five,
Speaker 14: two sixty, what did you now? Two fifty seven?
Speaker 11: Yup?
Speaker 6: But you look back at at last few points thousand injuries.
Speaker 7: Like that with data side was the frustration if he
Speaker 7: looks at the production to his point.
Speaker 14: And if so, obviously you know, as like a pro,
Speaker 14: you know, you you have things you wanna do, but
Speaker 14: you gotta understand everyone is injured. So that's never an excuse,
Speaker 14: but obviously, like you can, there's always levels to where
Speaker 14: your body's gonna be at. So I know that, you know,
Speaker 14: when I'm a hundred percent or you know, when whatever
Speaker 14: percentage I was at, you know I I could do this,
Speaker 14: But there's no frustration. And then obviously you know there
Speaker 14: was times where I was there but if my concentration
Speaker 14: maybe wasn't there and I coulda got it. So and
Speaker 14: there's guys that you know, we're in that situation that
Speaker 14: you know still made those plays. So it's it's not
Speaker 14: it's not an excuse, but I know where I'm at
Speaker 14: now and I know what I can do now.
Speaker 8: So there's how much communication if you had with Justin
Speaker 8: Houston this offseason or you still hopeful he could wind
Speaker 8: up back here?
Speaker 14: Hey man, Justin you know, he's his own man, you know,
Speaker 14: and he's really driven on what he wants to do.
Speaker 14: So you know, I'm hoping, you know, whatever he does
Speaker 14: is for the best for him. But you know, we
Speaker 14: would love to have him back, you know, and everything
Speaker 14: like that. But you know, Justin Justin, I know he's
Speaker 14: gonna make the right decision for himself.
Speaker 11: What are the conversations like with you and David Jabo
Speaker 11: and just kind of a dream of hey YouTube Russian
Speaker 11: passers terrorizing quarterbacks to the NFL level together.
Speaker 14: You know, we just wanna we just wanna show, like
Speaker 14: Baltimore a different thing that you know they haven't seen necessarily,
Speaker 14: but you know, we know that there's there's it's a
Speaker 14: real opportunity right here, a real great story coming from
Speaker 14: like where we both come from being together starting football league,
Speaker 14: you know, soaring and you know, having trials, tribulations, you know,
Speaker 14: beating that. So we know the opportunity that we have.
Speaker 14: You know, we just wanna, we wanna be those guys
Speaker 14: for Baltimore.
Speaker 6: Okaya, David said, sick of talking about last year?
Speaker 14: Sit?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 6: David said, you sick of talking about last year and
Speaker 6: everything moving forward?
Speaker 9: You personally, at what point of the off season did
Speaker 9: you forget about last year and everything that you said
Speaker 9: you learned.
Speaker 6: And just became fully focused on what death think you're
Speaker 6: going forward.
Speaker 14: No, I never forget, Like I don't, I don't forget.
Speaker 14: I use this kind of motivation, but obviously it's like
Speaker 14: you want to switch. But I didn't really take a
Speaker 14: lot of like off season, like I went straight to
Speaker 14: the gym just to try to get strong, because I
Speaker 14: knew there's no real off season. But you know, obviously
Speaker 14: you gotta like switch your mode to all right, it's
Speaker 14: the next page, what are we gonna do this year?
Speaker 14: But you know, as a competitor, you obviously you remember
Speaker 14: things that you gotta work on. You remember the things
Speaker 14: that you missed on so you can bounce back for
Speaker 14: the next year.
Speaker 6: Patrick Clean had a breakout year three. You kind of
Speaker 6: look at it.
Speaker 11: Year three is all right, you know, I've got my legs.
Speaker 11: I mentally physically like it's an opportunity to kind of have.
Speaker 3: That breakout year.
Speaker 14: Yeah. I mean I feel like Pat was, he was,
Speaker 14: He's always been a dude. But you know, I feel
Speaker 14: like three year three, you know, it's a year where, like,
Speaker 14: you know, you had a good year the first year,
Speaker 14: second year, guys know who you are, they know some
Speaker 14: of your moves, but the year three, like all right,
Speaker 14: you start all right, okay, you know some of my moves,
Speaker 14: but now I got more moves for you now, So
Speaker 14: I guess, yeah, year three is a year where you
Speaker 14: probably tie it all in together. So maybe, yeah, defy,
Speaker 14: are you.
Speaker 6: And David keep a track of who wins those kind
Speaker 6: of get up competitions.
Speaker 14: I mean, yeah, you know we're competitive, but we also
Speaker 14: know who we are, so you know, like we'll probably
Speaker 14: try to be everyone else before we try to be
Speaker 14: each other. And then once that comes up, then I'll
Speaker 14: probably sain't me, but you know, may me not do that.
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