WEBVTT - Episode 97: Wyndham Clark 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.320 The guys from Ping. They've kind of showed me how 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:05.040 much the equipment matters. I just love that I can 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:06.560 hit any shot I kind of want. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:08.440 We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:10.600 what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:13.600 What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.520 podcast Shane Bacon alongside Marty Jerts, and we got a 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.240 US Open champion, like a three day old US Open 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:24.720 champion with on this lovely, lovely Wednesday, Wyndham Clark joining 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.440 us Windham on a scale from one to Brooks Koepka 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.840 at the Panthers game after his last PGA Championship win. 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:33.440 How are we feeling on this Wednesday after a couple 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:34.800 of days of celebrating. 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:39.360 We're we're close to Brooks. Let's just say Sunday night 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.720 was a deep night, and even last night was so 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:46.320 I'm running on fumes and you know I'm here at Travelers. 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.040 Get a practice and get right back at it tomorrow. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:55.160 Yeah, the game does not sleep. I can only imagine 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.920 the lesson you learned after lacc is I'm good enough 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.480 to win one of these things. Do you feel like 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.720 the lesson is walking away from Shinnacock winning your second. 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.880 Man, I mean kind of revalidation because I had such 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.480 a tough year last year, and you know, winning at 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.360 the CJ Cup was huge, almost winning a memorial, you know, 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.120 it's all big for your confidence. And then obviously to 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.560 break through and win another major just shows that you know, 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:26.360 I belong in that arena and I can not only 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.520 do it once, I can do it twice and believe 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.200 that I can do it again. So it's, uh, it's 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.920 huge to be able to pull something like that off 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.440 for your confidence and just going forward. 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.320 So Windom, Obviously it's been fun to see all parts 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.319 of your game coming together lately. But when I look 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:45.760 at your putting stats right around RBC, if I go 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.880 on day to golf, your putting stats have just exploded. 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.280 You've been kind of on a putting heater. Tell us 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.800 about how you know, uh, the Alley Blue came into 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.120 your life and uh and and how that came to be. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.360 Yes, So I come onto the pink trailer quite often. 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.480 I'm good good friends with the guys here and use 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.040 a couple of pink clubs. They always helped me with 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.840 my lofts and lies, and I was so while I 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.960 was waiting, I was just messing around with the putters 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.240 in the bag and the Alley Blue just caught my 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.600 eye and I go, can I get one of these? 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.880 And they go, yeah, sure, what grip do you want 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.160 on it? So we put on a grip. I kinda 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.440 played with it for a couple of days and then 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.120 ultimately put it into play in Houston, used it at 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.760 the Masters, and then when we got to RBC, I 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.800 was like, Okay, it's good, but I feel like I 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:33.440 could do a couple tweaks to it to make it 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.840 exactly what I want. And that's when we lengthened it 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.000 to thirty eight inches, put on the bigger grip, and 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.639 then added tons of weight to the bottom. And starting 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:43.600 right there at RBC at Hilton Head is when I 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:47.160 started putting amazing. And then I believe I came into 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.840 the studio maybe it was a few couple weeks after that, 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.519 and we adjusted maybe the loft a little bit, got 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:59.160 onto quintech, made sure the role was good. The spin 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:04.600 every that we did in the lab was amazing because 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:06.760 it kind of verified what I loved about the putter. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:11.120 The you know, the Scottsdale Tech technology of the aiming 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:15.480 part is really the main thing I love about the putter, 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.360 but then also the insert and it really rolls pure 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.760 and my speed has gotten so amazing. So after I 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:23.880 work in the lab is then when I went to 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.960 CJ and had maybe one of my best putting weeks ever, 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.720 and then Memorial was good, Canada was pretty solid, and 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.840 then obviously last week was really good. So it's it's 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.400 been a fun ride with the putter. And needless to say, 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:36.640 I'm not switching from this one. 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.080 When did the confidence in your game switch? Because I mean, 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:45.640 you feel like a guy that probably needs the confidence 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.680 to play well. I mean I think there's you know, 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.040 certain players, especially more of the kind of athlete type 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.120 of golfers that kind of lean on their own confidence 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.440 to play awesome golf. And I'm assuming it's a little 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.600 bit of a chicken egg situation, right, It's like, am 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.000 I swinging well then I'm confident? Or am I confident 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.240 and then I'm swinging well? What point do you feel 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.040 like you felt that switch internally to where you went 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.440 from playing maybe not your best golf to play an 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:09.120 excellent golf. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.200 I started, I honestly have said this multiple times this year, 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.640 Everyone's like, I don't know where you played good, and 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.000 I go, that's not honestly true. I've had a lot 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:20.800 of good rounds, or I've been in eighth place or 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.880 fourth place or fifteenth place, and then I just you know, 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.440 I had a bad weekend and finished twenty eighth, so 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.240 then no one talks about it, right, And a lot 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:34.760 of that was the putting. And so what I would 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.280 say is, you know, I started off the euro was 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.680 in third place in Palm Springs and turned that into 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.159 a fifteenth place or something, and you know, that's just 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:49.760 an example, but I would say kind of around I'm 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.880 trying to think it was just before the players is 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.400 when I started at least feeling pretty good about my game. 0:04:55.960 --> 0:05:00.560 And then I went to Tampa and Houston and actually 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.480 missed the cut in both of those, but was like, 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.440 I did a lot of good stuff, the only thing 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.440 missing is the putting. So I went to Augusta and 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.480 that's when you know, I really started using Alley Blue 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:15.520 and there was huge improvements. And then obviously it's like 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.200 the minute my putting switched at RBC, it's like it 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.919 all clicked because now all the hard work I did 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.240 on my golf swing. I was starting to see the 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:26.200 fruit of that by making the putts, and so it 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.280 was kind of definitely a little bit of chicken of 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.719 the egg. But I had been confident. I just didn't 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.359 make putts, And the minute I started making putts, it 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.560 was like, Oh, yeah, we're back. My game's good. 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.279 Wendom you talked about like in the aiming technology on 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.760 the Alley Blue with the Scottsdale Tech with the we 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:45.640 have the Quiet Eye dot we call IQ technology. Tell 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.600 us about just your experience with that. Do you feel 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.279 like you actively used that to calm your gaze or 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.440 do you think it's just kind of passively, kind of 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:54.840 sitting in the background when you line up. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.120 Well, I think it's two things with well, actually, for 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.720 me three things. I love the onset because I think 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:03.680 it helps me aim the face and there's not you know, 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.719 for my eye, there's no distraction when there's an onset. 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.000 Then I love the fact that the putter's white and 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:13.280 the line is black. For some reason, for my eye, 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.760 I like that versus the black and white the other way. 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:21.159 And then and then the dot with the line, and 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.880 for some reason the separation between that, it's like the 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.919 dot really helps solidify that line. Sometimes lines for my 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.680 eyes look left, but the separation of the line and 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.200 then having that dot, it's almost like they match better. 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:40.839 And you know, for me, I have a very solid stroke, 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.400 you know, not trying to like toot my own horn, 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.080 but as far as delivering the face in a really 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:50.159 good role, I do it so consistently. But my biggest 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.440 issue is the aiming part. And so I've been searching 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.280 for a putter honestly forever that I aim consistently, and 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.120 I really do think I found it, and I didn't 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.159 know what I was looking for. But when I I 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.719 picked up the Ali Blue and you know the fact 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:06.280 that it has the onset and then with the IQ tech, 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.400 it's like I didn't even know. And then to tell 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.239 you it's kind of like a softening of my gaze. 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:15.040 I'm not actively using it, but I trained my aim 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.680 all the time, and every time I have my Caddy 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.600 look at it, he's like, yep, spot on, spot on, 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.000 spot on, And it used to be a little left, 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.600 or you're a little left. Oh, now you're right, and 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.680 now it's like no, you're on. It's perfect. So it's 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.480 just kind of something I stumbled upon and I'm definitely 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:31.000 glad I did. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.880 Yeah, I mean the technology within it obviously is something 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.720 that you were using to your benefit. I mean it's 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.440 been a putter I've been using for the last few months. 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.880 I'm obsessed with it. And again I think you said 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.640 you you're not actively leaning into it, but the fact 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.200 that you know it is there and you can use 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.240 it as a benefit. How many guys have come up 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.040 and grabbed your putter over the last few weeks and 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.480 said this might be something I need, I need to 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:52.280 maybe get involved in. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.200 Well, I do know on the Pink truck. They've made 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.560 a lot a lot of guys, and I'm starting to 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.600 see it out there quite a bit. And then yeah, 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.360 some guys look at it. They couldn't believe how much 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.880 lead tape there is. I just like a heavy putter. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:10.239 And then yeah, I mean everyone looks at it, especially ams. 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.679 I mean they I have a great story. I wanted 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.520 the CJ Cup. And then the next week I head 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.280 off and I get to wisp Rock where I played 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.120 my golf and I played a money game and two 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.720 of the guys in my group, one being thunder Dan Marley, 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.480 already had the Alley Blue and he said, he goes, 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.160 when I saw you make all those putts on Sunday, 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.679 I drove up to wisp Rock bought one, and he goes, 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.840 I've been using it since and that day he started 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.000 draining putts and he's like, I'm gonna be a problem 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.040 with this putter. So we were laughing. It was pretty funny. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:46.040 Thunder damn. Yeah, are you left eye dominant? Windham? And 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.280 because I've seen you kind of lining up the you're 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.520 getting your line on the shaft. And then also kind 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.200 of related to that question, do you are you a 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.080 line on the ball? Guy? Most of the time, all 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:54.440 the time. 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.520 Some of the time I'm left eye dominant. And I 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.760 think that's part of the reason why lines have always 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.320 looked bad to me, because I have to have the 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.439 ball up in my stands, So the more the ball's 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.120 up in my stands, the line looks left. But I 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.319 think I think that's part of the reason why the 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.280 IQ tech is so good. 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:12.480 M M. 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.240 I don't know what it is, but the yeah, the 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:18.640 left that honest. And then what was the second part 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:20.760 of the line on the ball? Oh? No line on 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:21.760 the ball. No line on the. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:22.480 Ball, No line. 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.360 I've done it in the past because I struggled amy. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.080 But now with this partter aim so good. It's like 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.760 I don't need I don't need any added amy, Like 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.959 it's already figured out. So nice. 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.000 Yeah, uh Wyndham. I wanted to ask about the tenth 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.600 hole at Shinnecok. I contend I think it's the best 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.000 championship par four in golf. We saw the good and 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.959 the bad of ten over the weekend with you. First, 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.120 I want to ask about the pitch shot on Saturday, 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.680 because of all the pars you scrambled to make, I 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.800 think that was your best one. A ton of guys 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.280 were hitting it over ten on Saturday. I think you 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.840 and Matt McNeely are the only guys that went low, 0:09:58.160 --> 0:09:59.960 and obviously you were able to get that up and down. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.280 Why did you think to go low there? And how 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.120 difficult was that shot from long of ten in that 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:06.720 third round? 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.240 Well, in the practice rounds, I actually tried going low 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.920 and it didn't work. And the greens were so much 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.240 softer those first few days, and I went high and 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:18.040 I actually hit a handful close, walked up and said, Dave, 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.839 we're not missing there. This is a terrible spot to miss. 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.880 So then of course, we find ourselves there Saturday, and 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.240 it had gotten so firm that I thought, even though 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:29.880 we were into the wind, I didn't think I'd be 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.760 able to stop it quick enough. And I thought the 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.520 like I thought I could make a bigger number by 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:39.480 trying to go high. So in my mind, I was 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.840 going to bail out, hit it to fifteen twenty feet 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.080 and then have to make a putt. And so I decided, 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:46.800 you know it, it's so firm, I'm into the wind, 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:48.960 I can be aggressive into the hill. I hit a 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.439 little hook fifty four, so I didn't want any extra 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.760 spin on it. I want to top spin and it. Yeah, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:56.480 it kind of worked out to perfection. You don't really 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.000 think you're going to hit it that close. But I 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.160 was definitely glad it didn't come back to me like 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.360 it did on five on the on Sunday. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.520 Yeah, I was gonna ask it was the same shot, right, 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.200 I mean five. I know the lies were different because 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:10.920 I think you were in the rough on five the 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:12.640 part five on Sunday, and I think you were in 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.440 short grass in that third run on ten. But yeah, 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.400 it was very interesting because you pull the shot off 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.480 on Saturday and you're kind of back there and I 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.160 was watching, you're kind of like practicing going low. I'm like, 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.720 this is a shot on ten, But Shinnacock doesn't allow 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.160 you many options to pull off like the hero shot. 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.000 No, it doesn't. The rough was the biggest thing, honestly 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.400 on that shot. If I was from the fairway on 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.400 the one on five, I think I would have been 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.000 able to pull it off or at least hit it 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.080 to where I would have had a ten to fifteen 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.920 foot for Bertie. So the rough kind of threw that off. 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.680 But I typically love I like going low. When you 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.960 can go low, I think you can, you know, control 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.280 it so much better and maybe eliminate the big miss 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:51.959 when you go low. 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:56.120 With the chip shot, Marty, it's really interesting that pros. 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.520 I feel like pro see lower high. You know, it's 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.960 like you either see lower high. I feel like Scotty's 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.680 probably a low guy. I think speed per typically is 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.080 a guy that's gonna lean low over high. And then 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.760 you get guys like like Rory, who's who almost always 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.280 it feels like, sees high first. I just think it's 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.640 so interesting that our minds as a golfer just simply 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.240 goes to one of those shots. And that's what you 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:18.920 see first. 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.600 Yeah, yeah, and there's a but it was just there's 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.680 so many of those around Shinnacock where you as a 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.960 viewer windom we're just you know, we're just not sure 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:29.760 whether you're gonna go lower high. You know, it's fun 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:31.439 to watch the decision making process. 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:36.520 Yeah, I mean, I've gotten obviously comfortable with going high. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.920 It just all dependent, Like people don't realize, you know, 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.040 part of the reason why tour pros are so good 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.920 is the short game shots that we can hit. But 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.160 there's so many more factors. It's like, Okay, how's our 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.439 lie Where am I landing? Is there hills at downhill 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.600 my end of the grain? Or am I not? Where's 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.960 the wind coming from? And like at Shinnakock, because the 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.360 greens were so extreme, the difference between downwind and into 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.120 the wind was huge, So you could have a really 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.760 tough shot, but it was into the wind and it 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.959 actually became easy. And then conversely, downwind, even though you 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.400 have tons of green, it became hard to really control 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.520 the distance. So we're thinking about all those factors. I mean, 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.600 it's very rare that I throw grass up for a 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.480 chip and shock Shinnacock maybe do that multiple times because 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.240 I wanted to know do I have any angle of 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.520 wind to help me with the shot or is it 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.360 always hurting me? So you know, that's kind of stuff 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.680 that you think about at a major championship, which you 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.960 normally don't do it your irregular. 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:38.600 Tourament Windham, speaking of wind in shot making, let's talk 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:42.839 about your three wood there on sixteen, the big slice. 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.360 Tell us about that shot. How much yardists did you 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.400 have to take off from maybe your full rip three 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:47.800 wood there? 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.680 Yeah, So we decided to put a three iron in 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.600 play that week, and I normally play a five pink 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.319 five wood, and we just said the only hole we 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.960 would actually maybe ever hit it on is sixteen if 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.080 the wind switches, and of course we have it, but 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.319 we use the three arm way more than the five wood. 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.120 So we get up there and as we're walking up, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:07.920 I go, how much do you think this is just 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.160 going to be a perfect five wood? And Dave goes, 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.080 it's going to be spot on. We were hitting our 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.480 five wood about we've been hitting around two sixty in 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:19.040 the air to cover the front was like two sixty 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:24.280 and so it was literally like perfect. So, uh, we 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.160 talked about three iron and I said, it's just too 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.600 narrow and if we miss right with the three arn 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.880 then we're short sighted. And I can't hit the three 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.360 arm far enough and high enough to the left to 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.000 cover the first bunker. So he's like, I think we 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.480 got to hit three wood and if anything, air long 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.760 and left, and so we were hitting. So we were 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.600 like a little over two sixty to the flag. I'm 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:48.800 flying three wood two eighty two eighty five and we 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.520 had a little kind of help off the right, so 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.840 I had to hit kind of a specialty shot. Otherwise 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.960 it'd have flown for sure mid to for sure mid 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.720 green and then rolled away over, which wouldn't have been terrible. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.160 So I have a shot that I can really take 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.440 off a lot of spin and distance by just hitting 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.080 a real big cut and it's almost like a heel cut. 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:12.120 So yeah, we took off about fifteen to twenty yards, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.240 and I didn't think I was going to pull the 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.480 shot off to perfection. You know, you're just trying to 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.520 hit it on the green or get it up there 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.760 near the bunker. And you know, I was just fortunate 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.240 landed right into the front of the green and killed 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.120 off all the steam and went to four feet. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.440 I was gonna ask about the shot you in theory 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.320 are going to remember from this week. I'm assuming you 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.240 have some from LACC week that kind of pop in 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.400 your mind from time to time? Is it the three wood? 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.160 Is that the shot you feel like in a year 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.480 or two you will remember the most from Shinny Week? 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.320 You know what's crazy is the Shinny Week in La. 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.040 There are so many similarities, it's almost deja vous. I 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:48.480 hit an amazing threewood into whole fourteen in La on Sunday. 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:52.640 Then I hit this amazing three wood on sixteen and shiney, 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.280 and then I had to two putt from fifty some 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.560 feet on the last hole to win, and I did 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.560 both times, left it, you know, eight inchest to the 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.720 sixth inches. Yeah, yeah, and it was easy. So those 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.320 were kind of definitely some things. I think the three 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.200 went on sixteen and then the putt on sixteen on Sunday, 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:15.240 those were kind of the two biggest biggest moments for me. Yeah. Yeah. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.680 You by the way, on eighteen, I think at LACC 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.480 you had one ninety four in on Sunday. I think 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.200 you had one ninety nine on Sunday at Shinny and 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.800 you had six you had sixty feet at LACC and 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.240 you had fifty two feet and change. We were like 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.880 laughing about it. We're in studio prepping to like wrap 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.920 up this championship like this is LACC, Like all you 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.720 need is like the Hollywood stars there and you're basically 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.120 hitting the exact same moment. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.640 For winning it. Honestly, it was crazy. And I leaned 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:48.120 on LACC when I was on eighteen. I said, hey, 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:52.040 I've done this before. It's uphill. I typically leave uphill 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.520 puts short. And that was the same stuff I was 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:59.120 telling myself at LACC. I knew it broke a ton 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:00.920 and I said, okay, we just got to give this 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:05.359 a little extra. I visualize what happened at LA and 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:06.919 I you know, and then I pulled it off. It's 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.400 amazing what the what the mind can do. It's pretty cool. 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.600 Whenever you liked that. You talked a little bit about 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.640 the insert in the Scott Sale Tech the Peedbacks material. 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.600 What was your experience with it, because we've we've made 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.240 a lot of custom putters for our players over the years, 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.679 but it kind of changed the field. The response, the 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.320 kind of cor the ball speed off the face. You've 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.400 liked that feedbacks insert right out of the gate. What's 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:28.879 your what's your experience with that? 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.520 You know this might not be the answer you want, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.320 but I'm so much on aiming of a putter if 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.719 it looks good, and I can adjust to the insert. 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.720 But what I will say is the ball doesn't come 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:44.439 off super fast, which I like because I like to 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.800 be able to stroke, like, feel like I can hit 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.520 the golf ball. Where some putters like you take like 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.000 a Scotti for example, it comes off so fast for 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.160 me that I feel like I can't really release the putter, 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.880 and especially downhill putts if you have to be so tended. 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.600 Now some guys like that, but I like when it's 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:07.720 softer on those difficult, you know, fast putts, I can 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.520 still feel like I stroked the golf ball. Now. Conversely, 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.680 on the other side, uphill puts become a little tougher 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:14.800 because you have to hit it harder. But I like that. 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.159 I like to be able to feel like I can 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.560 hit it hard. So that's what I love about. But 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:19.520 that insert. 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.080 Yeah, when you mentioned on Pardon My Take you turned 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:24.679 your phone off over the weekend, you said you were 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:26.720 kind of you kind of took some time away from 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.359 the phone. We are all obsessed with our cell phones. 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.399 I mean they're around us all the time. What do 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:33.040 you do to fill the time like that, you're not 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.200 scrolling or or texting with buddies or checking scores and stuff. 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:38.800