1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: The guys from Ping. They've kind of showed me how 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: much the equipment matters. I just love that I can 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: hit any shot I kind of want. 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 5 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 6 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 3: What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds 7 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 3: podcast Shane Bacon alongside Marty Jerts, and we got a 8 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 3: US Open champion, like a three day old US Open 9 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: champion with on this lovely, lovely Wednesday, Wyndham Clark joining 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: us Windham on a scale from one to Brooks Koepka 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: at the Panthers game after his last PGA Championship win. 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: How are we feeling on this Wednesday after a couple 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: of days of celebrating. 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: We're we're close to Brooks. Let's just say Sunday night 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: was a deep night, and even last night was so 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm running on fumes and you know I'm here at Travelers. 17 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Get a practice and get right back at it tomorrow. 18 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the game does not sleep. I can only imagine 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: the lesson you learned after lacc is I'm good enough 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: to win one of these things. Do you feel like 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: the lesson is walking away from Shinnacock winning your second. 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: Man, I mean kind of revalidation because I had such 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: a tough year last year, and you know, winning at 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: the CJ Cup was huge, almost winning a memorial, you know, 25 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: it's all big for your confidence. And then obviously to 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: break through and win another major just shows that you know, 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: I belong in that arena and I can not only 28 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: do it once, I can do it twice and believe 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: that I can do it again. So it's, uh, it's 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: huge to be able to pull something like that off 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: for your confidence and just going forward. 32 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: So Windom, Obviously it's been fun to see all parts 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: of your game coming together lately. But when I look 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: at your putting stats right around RBC, if I go 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: on day to golf, your putting stats have just exploded. 36 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: You've been kind of on a putting heater. Tell us 37 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: about how you know, uh, the Alley Blue came into 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: your life and uh and and how that came to be. 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: Yes, So I come onto the pink trailer quite often. 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm good good friends with the guys here and use 41 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: a couple of pink clubs. They always helped me with 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: my lofts and lies, and I was so while I 43 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: was waiting, I was just messing around with the putters 44 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: in the bag and the Alley Blue just caught my 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: eye and I go, can I get one of these? 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: And they go, yeah, sure, what grip do you want 47 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: on it? So we put on a grip. I kinda 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: played with it for a couple of days and then 49 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: ultimately put it into play in Houston, used it at 50 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: the Masters, and then when we got to RBC, I 51 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, it's good, but I feel like I 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: could do a couple tweaks to it to make it 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: exactly what I want. And that's when we lengthened it 54 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: to thirty eight inches, put on the bigger grip, and 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: then added tons of weight to the bottom. And starting 56 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: right there at RBC at Hilton Head is when I 57 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: started putting amazing. And then I believe I came into 58 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: the studio maybe it was a few couple weeks after that, 59 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: and we adjusted maybe the loft a little bit, got 60 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: onto quintech, made sure the role was good. The spin 61 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: every that we did in the lab was amazing because 62 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: it kind of verified what I loved about the putter. 63 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: The you know, the Scottsdale Tech technology of the aiming 64 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: part is really the main thing I love about the putter, 65 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: but then also the insert and it really rolls pure 66 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: and my speed has gotten so amazing. So after I 67 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: work in the lab is then when I went to 68 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: CJ and had maybe one of my best putting weeks ever, 69 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: and then Memorial was good, Canada was pretty solid, and 70 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: then obviously last week was really good. So it's it's 71 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: been a fun ride with the putter. And needless to say, 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm not switching from this one. 73 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: When did the confidence in your game switch? Because I mean, 74 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: you feel like a guy that probably needs the confidence 75 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: to play well. I mean I think there's you know, 76 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: certain players, especially more of the kind of athlete type 77 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: of golfers that kind of lean on their own confidence 78 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: to play awesome golf. And I'm assuming it's a little 79 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: bit of a chicken egg situation, right, It's like, am 80 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: I swinging well then I'm confident? Or am I confident 81 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: and then I'm swinging well? What point do you feel 82 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: like you felt that switch internally to where you went 83 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: from playing maybe not your best golf to play an 84 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: excellent golf. 85 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: I started, I honestly have said this multiple times this year, 86 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, I don't know where you played good, and 87 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: I go, that's not honestly true. I've had a lot 88 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: of good rounds, or I've been in eighth place or 89 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: fourth place or fifteenth place, and then I just you know, 90 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: I had a bad weekend and finished twenty eighth, so 91 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: then no one talks about it, right, And a lot 92 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: of that was the putting. And so what I would 93 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: say is, you know, I started off the euro was 94 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: in third place in Palm Springs and turned that into 95 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: a fifteenth place or something, and you know, that's just 96 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: an example, but I would say kind of around I'm 97 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: trying to think it was just before the players is 98 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: when I started at least feeling pretty good about my game. 99 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: And then I went to Tampa and Houston and actually 100 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: missed the cut in both of those, but was like, 101 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: I did a lot of good stuff, the only thing 102 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: missing is the putting. So I went to Augusta and 103 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: that's when you know, I really started using Alley Blue 104 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: and there was huge improvements. And then obviously it's like 105 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: the minute my putting switched at RBC, it's like it 106 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: all clicked because now all the hard work I did 107 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: on my golf swing. I was starting to see the 108 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: fruit of that by making the putts, and so it 109 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: was kind of definitely a little bit of chicken of 110 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: the egg. But I had been confident. I just didn't 111 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: make putts, And the minute I started making putts, it 112 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, yeah, we're back. My game's good. 113 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: Wendom you talked about like in the aiming technology on 114 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: the Alley Blue with the Scottsdale Tech with the we 115 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: have the Quiet Eye dot we call IQ technology. Tell 116 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: us about just your experience with that. Do you feel 117 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: like you actively used that to calm your gaze or 118 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: do you think it's just kind of passively, kind of 119 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: sitting in the background when you line up. 120 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's two things with well, actually, for 121 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: me three things. I love the onset because I think 122 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: it helps me aim the face and there's not you know, 123 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: for my eye, there's no distraction when there's an onset. 124 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: Then I love the fact that the putter's white and 125 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: the line is black. For some reason, for my eye, 126 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: I like that versus the black and white the other way. 127 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: And then and then the dot with the line, and 128 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: for some reason the separation between that, it's like the 129 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: dot really helps solidify that line. Sometimes lines for my 130 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: eyes look left, but the separation of the line and 131 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: then having that dot, it's almost like they match better. 132 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: And you know, for me, I have a very solid stroke, 133 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, not trying to like toot my own horn, 134 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: but as far as delivering the face in a really 135 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: good role, I do it so consistently. But my biggest 136 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: issue is the aiming part. And so I've been searching 137 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: for a putter honestly forever that I aim consistently, and 138 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: I really do think I found it, and I didn't 139 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: know what I was looking for. But when I I 140 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: picked up the Ali Blue and you know the fact 141 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: that it has the onset and then with the IQ tech, 142 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: it's like I didn't even know. And then to tell 143 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: you it's kind of like a softening of my gaze. 144 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm not actively using it, but I trained my aim 145 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: all the time, and every time I have my Caddy 146 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: look at it, he's like, yep, spot on, spot on, 147 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: spot on, And it used to be a little left, 148 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: or you're a little left. Oh, now you're right, and 149 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: now it's like no, you're on. It's perfect. So it's 150 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: just kind of something I stumbled upon and I'm definitely 151 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: glad I did. 152 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the technology within it obviously is something 153 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: that you were using to your benefit. I mean it's 154 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: been a putter I've been using for the last few months. 155 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with it. And again I think you said 156 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: you you're not actively leaning into it, but the fact 157 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: that you know it is there and you can use 158 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: it as a benefit. How many guys have come up 159 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: and grabbed your putter over the last few weeks and 160 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: said this might be something I need, I need to 161 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: maybe get involved in. 162 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: Well, I do know on the Pink truck. They've made 163 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: a lot a lot of guys, and I'm starting to 164 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: see it out there quite a bit. And then yeah, 165 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: some guys look at it. They couldn't believe how much 166 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: lead tape there is. I just like a heavy putter. 167 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: And then yeah, I mean everyone looks at it, especially ams. 168 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 1: I mean they I have a great story. I wanted 169 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: the CJ Cup. And then the next week I head 170 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: off and I get to wisp Rock where I played 171 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: my golf and I played a money game and two 172 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: of the guys in my group, one being thunder Dan Marley, 173 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: already had the Alley Blue and he said, he goes, 174 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: when I saw you make all those putts on Sunday, 175 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: I drove up to wisp Rock bought one, and he goes, 176 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: I've been using it since and that day he started 177 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: draining putts and he's like, I'm gonna be a problem 178 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: with this putter. So we were laughing. It was pretty funny. 179 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: Thunder damn. Yeah, are you left eye dominant? Windham? And 180 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: because I've seen you kind of lining up the you're 181 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: getting your line on the shaft. And then also kind 182 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: of related to that question, do you are you a 183 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: line on the ball? Guy? Most of the time, all 184 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: the time. 185 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: Some of the time I'm left eye dominant. And I 186 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: think that's part of the reason why lines have always 187 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: looked bad to me, because I have to have the 188 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: ball up in my stands, So the more the ball's 189 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: up in my stands, the line looks left. But I 190 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: think I think that's part of the reason why the 191 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: IQ tech is so good. 192 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: M M. 193 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but the yeah, the 194 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: left that honest. And then what was the second part 195 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: of the line on the ball? Oh? No line on 196 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: the ball. No line on the. 197 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: Ball, No line. 198 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: I've done it in the past because I struggled amy. 199 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: But now with this partter aim so good. It's like 200 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: I don't need I don't need any added amy, Like 201 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: it's already figured out. So nice. 202 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, uh Wyndham. I wanted to ask about the tenth 203 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: hole at Shinnecok. I contend I think it's the best 204 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: championship par four in golf. We saw the good and 205 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 3: the bad of ten over the weekend with you. First, 206 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: I want to ask about the pitch shot on Saturday, 207 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: because of all the pars you scrambled to make, I 208 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: think that was your best one. A ton of guys 209 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: were hitting it over ten on Saturday. I think you 210 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: and Matt McNeely are the only guys that went low, 211 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: and obviously you were able to get that up and down. 212 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: Why did you think to go low there? And how 213 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: difficult was that shot from long of ten in that 214 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: third round? 215 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: Well, in the practice rounds, I actually tried going low 216 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: and it didn't work. And the greens were so much 217 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: softer those first few days, and I went high and 218 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: I actually hit a handful close, walked up and said, Dave, 219 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: we're not missing there. This is a terrible spot to miss. 220 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: So then of course, we find ourselves there Saturday, and 221 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: it had gotten so firm that I thought, even though 222 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: we were into the wind, I didn't think I'd be 223 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: able to stop it quick enough. And I thought the 224 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: like I thought I could make a bigger number by 225 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: trying to go high. So in my mind, I was 226 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: going to bail out, hit it to fifteen twenty feet 227 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: and then have to make a putt. And so I decided, 228 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: you know it, it's so firm, I'm into the wind, 229 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: I can be aggressive into the hill. I hit a 230 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: little hook fifty four, so I didn't want any extra 231 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: spin on it. I want to top spin and it. Yeah, 232 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: it kind of worked out to perfection. You don't really 233 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: think you're going to hit it that close. But I 234 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: was definitely glad it didn't come back to me like 235 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: it did on five on the on Sunday. 236 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna ask it was the same shot, right, 237 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: I mean five. I know the lies were different because 238 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: I think you were in the rough on five the 239 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: part five on Sunday, and I think you were in 240 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: short grass in that third run on ten. But yeah, 241 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: it was very interesting because you pull the shot off 242 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: on Saturday and you're kind of back there and I 243 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: was watching, you're kind of like practicing going low. I'm like, 244 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: this is a shot on ten, But Shinnacock doesn't allow 245 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: you many options to pull off like the hero shot. 246 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. The rough was the biggest thing, honestly 247 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: on that shot. If I was from the fairway on 248 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: the one on five, I think I would have been 249 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: able to pull it off or at least hit it 250 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: to where I would have had a ten to fifteen 251 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: foot for Bertie. So the rough kind of threw that off. 252 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: But I typically love I like going low. When you 253 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: can go low, I think you can, you know, control 254 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: it so much better and maybe eliminate the big miss 255 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: when you go low. 256 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: With the chip shot, Marty, it's really interesting that pros. 257 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: I feel like pro see lower high. You know, it's 258 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 3: like you either see lower high. I feel like Scotty's 259 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: probably a low guy. I think speed per typically is 260 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: a guy that's gonna lean low over high. And then 261 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: you get guys like like Rory, who's who almost always 262 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: it feels like, sees high first. I just think it's 263 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: so interesting that our minds as a golfer just simply 264 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: goes to one of those shots. And that's what you 265 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: see first. 266 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and there's a but it was just there's 267 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: so many of those around Shinnacock where you as a 268 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: viewer windom we're just you know, we're just not sure 269 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: whether you're gonna go lower high. You know, it's fun 270 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 2: to watch the decision making process. 271 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've gotten obviously comfortable with going high. 272 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: It just all dependent, Like people don't realize, you know, 273 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: part of the reason why tour pros are so good 274 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: is the short game shots that we can hit. But 275 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: there's so many more factors. It's like, Okay, how's our 276 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: lie Where am I landing? Is there hills at downhill 277 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: my end of the grain? Or am I not? Where's 278 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: the wind coming from? And like at Shinnakock, because the 279 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: greens were so extreme, the difference between downwind and into 280 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: the wind was huge, So you could have a really 281 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: tough shot, but it was into the wind and it 282 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: actually became easy. And then conversely, downwind, even though you 283 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: have tons of green, it became hard to really control 284 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: the distance. So we're thinking about all those factors. I mean, 285 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: it's very rare that I throw grass up for a 286 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: chip and shock Shinnacock maybe do that multiple times because 287 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to know do I have any angle of 288 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: wind to help me with the shot or is it 289 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: always hurting me? So you know, that's kind of stuff 290 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: that you think about at a major championship, which you 291 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: normally don't do it your irregular. 292 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: Tourament Windham, speaking of wind in shot making, let's talk 293 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: about your three wood there on sixteen, the big slice. 294 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: Tell us about that shot. How much yardists did you 295 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: have to take off from maybe your full rip three 296 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: wood there? 297 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we decided to put a three iron in 298 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: play that week, and I normally play a five pink 299 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: five wood, and we just said the only hole we 300 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: would actually maybe ever hit it on is sixteen if 301 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: the wind switches, and of course we have it, but 302 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: we use the three arm way more than the five wood. 303 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: So we get up there and as we're walking up, 304 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: I go, how much do you think this is just 305 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: going to be a perfect five wood? And Dave goes, 306 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be spot on. We were hitting our 307 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: five wood about we've been hitting around two sixty in 308 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: the air to cover the front was like two sixty 309 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: and so it was literally like perfect. So, uh, we 310 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: talked about three iron and I said, it's just too 311 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: narrow and if we miss right with the three arn 312 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: then we're short sighted. And I can't hit the three 313 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: arm far enough and high enough to the left to 314 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: cover the first bunker. So he's like, I think we 315 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: got to hit three wood and if anything, air long 316 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: and left, and so we were hitting. So we were 317 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: like a little over two sixty to the flag. I'm 318 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: flying three wood two eighty two eighty five and we 319 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: had a little kind of help off the right, so 320 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: I had to hit kind of a specialty shot. Otherwise 321 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: it'd have flown for sure mid to for sure mid 322 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: green and then rolled away over, which wouldn't have been terrible. 323 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: So I have a shot that I can really take 324 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: off a lot of spin and distance by just hitting 325 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: a real big cut and it's almost like a heel cut. 326 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, we took off about fifteen to twenty yards, 327 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: and I didn't think I was going to pull the 328 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: shot off to perfection. You know, you're just trying to 329 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: hit it on the green or get it up there 330 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: near the bunker. And you know, I was just fortunate 331 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: landed right into the front of the green and killed 332 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: off all the steam and went to four feet. 333 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask about the shot you in theory 334 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: are going to remember from this week. I'm assuming you 335 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: have some from LACC week that kind of pop in 336 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: your mind from time to time? Is it the three wood? 337 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: Is that the shot you feel like in a year 338 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: or two you will remember the most from Shinny Week? 339 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is the Shinny Week in La. 340 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: There are so many similarities, it's almost deja vous. I 341 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: hit an amazing threewood into whole fourteen in La on Sunday. 342 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: Then I hit this amazing three wood on sixteen and shiney, 343 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: and then I had to two putt from fifty some 344 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: feet on the last hole to win, and I did 345 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: both times, left it, you know, eight inchest to the 346 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: sixth inches. Yeah, yeah, and it was easy. So those 347 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: were kind of definitely some things. I think the three 348 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: went on sixteen and then the putt on sixteen on Sunday, 349 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: those were kind of the two biggest biggest moments for me. Yeah. Yeah. 350 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: You by the way, on eighteen, I think at LACC 351 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: you had one ninety four in on Sunday. I think 352 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: you had one ninety nine on Sunday at Shinny and 353 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: you had six you had sixty feet at LACC and 354 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: you had fifty two feet and change. We were like 355 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: laughing about it. We're in studio prepping to like wrap 356 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: up this championship like this is LACC, Like all you 357 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: need is like the Hollywood stars there and you're basically 358 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: hitting the exact same moment. 359 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: For winning it. Honestly, it was crazy. And I leaned 360 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: on LACC when I was on eighteen. I said, hey, 361 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: I've done this before. It's uphill. I typically leave uphill 362 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: puts short. And that was the same stuff I was 363 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: telling myself at LACC. I knew it broke a ton 364 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: and I said, okay, we just got to give this 365 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: a little extra. I visualize what happened at LA and 366 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: I you know, and then I pulled it off. It's 367 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: amazing what the what the mind can do. It's pretty cool. 368 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: Whenever you liked that. You talked a little bit about 369 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: the insert in the Scott Sale Tech the Peedbacks material. 370 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: What was your experience with it, because we've we've made 371 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: a lot of custom putters for our players over the years, 372 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 2: but it kind of changed the field. The response, the 373 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: kind of cor the ball speed off the face. You've 374 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: liked that feedbacks insert right out of the gate. What's 375 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: your what's your experience with that? 376 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: You know this might not be the answer you want, 377 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: but I'm so much on aiming of a putter if 378 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 1: it looks good, and I can adjust to the insert. 379 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: But what I will say is the ball doesn't come 380 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: off super fast, which I like because I like to 381 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: be able to stroke, like, feel like I can hit 382 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: the golf ball. Where some putters like you take like 383 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: a Scotti for example, it comes off so fast for 384 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: me that I feel like I can't really release the putter, 385 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: and especially downhill putts if you have to be so tended. 386 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: Now some guys like that, but I like when it's 387 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: softer on those difficult, you know, fast putts, I can 388 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: still feel like I stroked the golf ball. Now. Conversely, 389 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: on the other side, uphill puts become a little tougher 390 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: because you have to hit it harder. But I like that. 391 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: I like to be able to feel like I can 392 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: hit it hard. So that's what I love about. But 393 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: that insert. 394 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you mentioned on Pardon My Take you turned 395 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 3: your phone off over the weekend, you said you were 396 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: kind of you kind of took some time away from 397 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: the phone. We are all obsessed with our cell phones. 398 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 3: I mean they're around us all the time. What do 399 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: you do to fill the time like that, you're not 400 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 3: scrolling or or texting with buddies or checking scores and stuff. 401 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: I was hanging out with my girlfriend, a big wave 402 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: of Dave, my agent, was there. We were either playing 403 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: card games, watching a movie, World Cup while watch World 404 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: Cup for sure, we were betting on the World Cup. 405 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean we're doing anything to basically try to keep 406 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: our minds off of the golf and checking your phone 407 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: and scrolling and seeing any either negative stuff or just 408 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, focusing too much on outcome and whatever. So 409 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: we just shut it all out and we were having fun. 410 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. 411 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: I mean the late tea times, you know, I mean 412 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: these are things I think people that maybe aren't around 413 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: golf tournaments that often don't understand. But I mean, you're 414 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: going back to back on the weekend, right late tea times. 415 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 3: I mean these are late. These aren't noon. I mean 416 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 3: you're team off at three and change right on Saturday. 417 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: I mean you've got all day to burn. You can 418 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: go get a workout in, go for a walk with 419 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 3: a girlfriend, go get a coffee, like and all of 420 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: a sudden, it's ten am. It's not you know, one 421 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: when you're trying to go to the golf course. I mean, 422 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 3: I'm assuming that part of the let's call it the 423 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: weekend of a championship, when you're in it has got 424 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 3: to be the biggest grind. I'm assume when you get 425 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 3: the golf course is probably when it feels easy. 426 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're one hundred percent right, Chane. It's the anticipation 427 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: when you tea off at three forty five on like 428 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: we did on Saturday. I mean, you're just like antsy, 429 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: You're like, I just want to get out there, and 430 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: you're like, shit, I still have four more hours till 431 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: we're actually pegging it, you know, and uh so, yeah, 432 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: that's definitely one of the toughest things. But you're all 433 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: right once you get there, then you're like, okay, we're 434 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: back to work, Like this feels normal, I'm ready, let's go. 435 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: Uh But yeah, it's just the waiting and you're it's 436 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: just it's torment. 437 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: You talked about playing a little bit of golf with 438 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: thunder Dan. We also have for our one hundredth episode 439 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: of the pod, The Chuckster's Coming On. UH, tell us 440 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: a little bit about your relationship with with Charles. Uh. 441 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: Chuck and I have known each other for quite a while. 442 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Fujimoto kind of set us up good friends. Everyone 443 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: knows him in Scottsdale, and Uh, Chuck and I have 444 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: good banter back and forth. We always text each other, 445 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: you know, he's remember at WIST Rocky never shows up, 446 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: so I always give him crap that I never see him, 447 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: and I want to see his new I haven't played 448 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: with him since his his game's a lot better. So 449 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: we we have a fun, friendly relationship. And then obviously 450 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: I've gotten to know and gotten close with with thunder Dan, 451 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: who's really good friends with Chuck. So it's become a 452 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: fun group of guys that I like to hang out with. 453 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: And you know, those guys have stories that you could 454 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: just you know, you just want to sit and listen 455 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: to them tell NBA stories of what they were doing. Michael. 456 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: You know, they lived in the heyday of basketball, So 457 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: it's it's a fun relationship. Let's just say that. 458 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, better stories, less social. I think the nineties might 459 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 3: have been in you know, when you think about what 460 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: it was like to be an athlete back then, when 461 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: am I every year, it feels like there's a new 462 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 3: kind of guy. You don't want to play against, a whisper. 463 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: I think about the Assassin back in the day and 464 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 3: how good he was. Rumor is it's been JJ spawn 465 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 3: as of late. Is there a king of whisper right 466 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 3: now in your opinion? 467 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so went the Assassin. It was Scott Harrington, it 468 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: was Chez Reve and it's JJ. JJ has been the 469 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: guy at wisp Rock that's so hard to beat. The 470 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: golf courses set up perfect for him, Like the holes 471 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: that I'm in between driver and three wood. He can 472 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: just hit his perfect cut driver not even think about it. 473 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: He's a great iron player and he just he He 474 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: was shooting in like average of sixty five over the 475 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: entire time we were playing. I mean some were sixty ones, 476 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: some were sixty seven, but it was always five under 477 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: or better. And he was just taking everyone's money. So 478 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: he's that guy. 479 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: Had you had a great finish last year the Open Championship, 480 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: how much you looking forward to heading over to Royal 481 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: Birkdale this year? 482 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? I've never been there. I hear great things about it. 483 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: You know, I hear it's one of the better in 484 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: the rotation. My putting coach Mike Kanski and Phil Kenyon 485 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: are there. They have their studio, so that's gonna be 486 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: fun to kind of go and get on some of 487 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: their tech there. But yeah, I love that tournament. It's 488 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: definitely one of my favorite events of the year. I 489 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: just love links golf, I love the fans, I love 490 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: the history and tradition, and you know, traditionally I've struggled 491 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: putting there just because of the speed of the greens, 492 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: and I kind of figured it out last year, and 493 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: so I'm excited to get back there with with this part, 494 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: are now now feeling more comfortable on kind of the 495 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: slower greens with all the wind. 496 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: Well, Whendom, I I know it's been a kind of 497 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: a whirlwind of a week. I know you've been doing 498 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 3: a boatload of media. I know you're getting your clubs 499 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: kind of fixed right now. Downstairs. We appreciate you taking 500 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: a minute to chat with us. The connection worked, which 501 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 3: was a bonus. I think there was there was some 502 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: iffy moments there, a little like the early parts of 503 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: your final round. You know, you're like make a couple 504 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: of bogies early, but you kind of turned it around, 505 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: which we were really happy to see. The congrats on 506 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: the victory man. We're fired up for you and UH 507 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: and hope travelers week listen, don't count the man out 508 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: of traveling. 509 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you can fade me all you want. 510 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: I hope you do. And I'm gonna text you Sunday 511 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: and say gotcha after after what. 512 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: You endured on the weekend, especially on Sunday with the fans, 513 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: I am not counting you out in neaty capacity, dude. 514 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: That was That was quite an away game performance by you. 515 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: And uh, hopefully everything comes uh comes flowing your way 516 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: in the future. And congrats on the victory man. The 517 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: putting was great, the ball striking was great. And two 518 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: times a US Open champion that is Wyndham Clark. This 519 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: is the Ping proven Grounds Podcast 520 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: M HM.