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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at Advocates Law dot com.

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Speaker 2: Thomas is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Sophie. So in

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Speaker 2: a little while, So in just a few minutes, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna call Sophie and see if she'll tell us why

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Speaker 2: she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date. But

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Speaker 2: before we do that, Thomas, how long has it been

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Speaker 2: since you heard from Sophie.

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Speaker 3: It's been about four days.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's not too bad. You sure you get ghosted.

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Speaker 5: I have sent a few messages and I haven't heard back,

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Speaker 5: so at this point I do.

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Speaker 3: Think I'll get ghosted.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, let's hear about your date. How did that go?

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Speaker 5: So, in my mind, it went pretty well. I think

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Speaker 5: we had some drinks and advertisers. We got to know

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Speaker 5: each other a little bit, and it was good overall.

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Speaker 5: There was one moment where we I don't even want

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Speaker 5: to call it an argument, but we did have a

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Speaker 5: little like heated back and forth for a minute.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I'm thinking that's what it probably was.

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Speaker 2: If I were to guess, Okay, well, let's get to

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Speaker 2: the heated back and forth in just a second.

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Speaker 4: How do you get there?

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Speaker 3: Oh, we were just we were just getting getting like

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Speaker 3: getting food.

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Speaker 5: I picked her up and we went and uh yeah,

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Speaker 5: just got some food and drinks and it was pretty

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Speaker 4: So what was the heated debate about then?

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Speaker 5: So we were going through uh, we were talking about

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Speaker 5: my dating profile and stuff, and she kept just being like, uh, so,

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Speaker 5: what's your real height or or or so what's your

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Speaker 5: real job?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do you It's right here, like

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Speaker 3: I already said it, believe me.

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Speaker 5: Uh, it seems like she didn't believe me, and so

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Speaker 5: it just got kind of back and forth. But once

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Speaker 5: I cleared it up, I feel like everything for the

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Speaker 5: rest of the night was good and we had fun.

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Speaker 2: Was she joking or she actually legit didn't believe it?

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Speaker 3: It seemed like she she didn't believe me.

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Speaker 6: If she didn't believe you, that that wasn't a you problem,

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Speaker 6: Like I think that that would just mean that she's

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Speaker 6: been lied to and those apps had been leading her

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Speaker 6: astray many times before you. So you know, I guess

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Speaker 6: it would depend on how you've responded to that. So

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Speaker 6: you yelled back or what did that sound?

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, no, I don't think. I wasn't trying to uh.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't yelling back or anything. But I think after

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Speaker 5: the second time, I'm kind of like, so, what's your

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Speaker 3: I was kind of like, well, this is my real job,

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Speaker 3: Like these are this is what I did. That was

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Speaker 3: I'm not lying.

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Speaker 5: I might have sounded a little more in chance, So

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Speaker 5: that's why I say it wasn't really an argument. It

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Speaker 5: was just kind of like a heated thing from expers

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Speaker 6: I mean, can I ask, was there like your height,

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Speaker 6: exact heights, lie.

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Speaker 4: About their height to ask it's there.

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Speaker 3: I don't do that. I put it.

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Speaker 5: I put my real height on there, and I put

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Speaker 5: my job on there.

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Speaker 6: That's cool that you're out here telling the truth. I

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Speaker 6: think that that's understandable. And it well not understandable, but

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Speaker 6: you know, we respect that.

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Speaker 4: Are you a shorter.

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Speaker 3: Dude, I'm I'm six foot flat.

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Speaker 4: Oh. I don't think it was the height. I don't

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Speaker 4: think it was the height here. Was there anything else

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Speaker 4: that happened on the date that may have caused a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit of I don't want to say tension, but I

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Speaker 2: was gonna say friction, But usually friction could be a

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Speaker 6: She did words, she kind of asked for it. She

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Speaker 6: kind of walked right into friction. Maybe she's one of

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Speaker 6: those people that gets turned on by arguments. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: you know how some people are into that and they

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Speaker 6: like like a heated debate. So maybe if you engaged

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Speaker 6: That would be really sad, and that would be a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe interesting.

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Speaker 4: How did things end with you guys?

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Speaker 3: It was pretty good. We we we hogged.

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Speaker 5: We didn't kiss, but uh, it wasn't It didn't feel

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Speaker 5: like things were bad. It felt like at that point

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Speaker 5: the energy had kind of turned around and Advisor backed up.

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Speaker 2: Did you say anything about future plans? Like you know,

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Speaker 2: when you guys parted ways?

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Speaker 3: I said, I'll I'll text you and she said, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, okay, all right, well and you've heard nothing in

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Speaker 2: fourte So we'll play a song come back and then

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Speaker 2: call her see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting.

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Speaker 4: You and maybe get you another day to right.

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: Plus on come back, get your first day, follow up,

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Speaker 1: Date, follow Hello. Powered by the Advocates injury attorneys online

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Speaker 1: at advocates Law dot com.

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Speaker 2: Right in the middle of today's first Date follow up

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Speaker 2: if you're just joining us, Thomas is on the phone

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Speaker 2: and Thomas is getting ghosted by Sophie. So we're about

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Speaker 2: to call her right now and see if she'll tell

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Speaker 2: us why she's ghosting and maybe get him another date.

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Speaker 2: But before we do that, Thomas, why don't you catch

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Speaker 2: everybody up on your date with Sophie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So, Sophie and I met on one of the dating apps.

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Speaker 5: We ended up going out for drinks and appetizers. It

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Speaker 5: was a pretty good time overall. At the beginning, we

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Speaker 5: were going over my dating profile and she was pointing

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Speaker 5: out some like things that she thought were maybe I

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Speaker 5: kind of a little tension there for a moment, but

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Speaker 5: after that it was all right. But I haven't heard

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Speaker 4: All right, Were you ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here we go. Huh, I may speak to Sophie.

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Speaker 2: Please speaking Sophie, Hi, how are you? My name is

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Speaker 2: Jewbell and I host a radio show it's called The

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Speaker 2: Jewbel Show.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Sophie, I'm Nina. Also on the show. Hi, I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 4: Hi on the phone with you. How are you?

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Speaker 7: I'm good. There's so many of you.

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Speaker 4: Well, we do a segment on the show. It's called

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Speaker 4: the first Date follow Up.

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Speaker 2: So that's where if you go out on a date

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Speaker 2: with somebody and then you end up ghosting them, that

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Speaker 2: and ask why you're ghosting them. So you're currently actively

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Speaker 2: ghosting somebody I think, okay, and his name is Thomas.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, and you went out with him a couple

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Speaker 4: of days ago.

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, it was like like four or five days

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And he says you haven't talked to him since you

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Speaker 2: guys have gone out, so we're wondering if you would

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Speaker 2: tell us why you're ghosting him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm good. I'm just like really awkward about

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Speaker 7: just avoid doing that. On our date, he like we

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Speaker 7: if you get into like a fight on your first date,

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Speaker 4: What was the fight about it was just like.

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Speaker 7: A couple of things. Like he was just being super

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Speaker 3: And so that was weird.

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Speaker 7: And he got really like defensive about it. And then

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Speaker 7: I mean I just think he's like, I don't know,

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Speaker 5: To me.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't playful, not for me.

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Speaker 7: because it's like I don't like having people like kind

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Speaker 6: So you didn't get the vibe that he was lying

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Speaker 4: So what made you feel like he was lying about

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Speaker 4: So because I felt like he wasn't truthful with you, yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean he definitely. I would be literally shocked if

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, well let's ask him because now I have

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Speaker 2: to be truthful. Sophie Thomas is on the other line

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Speaker 2: listening and wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Sophie.

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Speaker 7: Uh, it's really awkward.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 5: I just hold on because I feel like maybe I

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Speaker 7: First of all, sorry, if I said all that stuff

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't lacking here, we don't.

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Speaker 5: I just wanted to feel like I feel stuck before

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Speaker 4: Well, what do you consult on?

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Speaker 3: I mean, just various businesses hire me?

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Speaker 7: Okay that you guys, come on, that's like, what is that?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so that's cool. So what did you consult on

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Speaker 4: your last job?

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Speaker 3: It was it was a it was a construction business.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, would you consult with them? Like with that,

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Speaker 4: what do you do specializing in construction just.

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Speaker 3: Sort of coding and just general like permit stuff.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I mean it's like you didn't really answer anything

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Speaker 7: about anything. So it's like, what project are you working

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Speaker 7: on right now?

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Speaker 3: Right now? I'm in between projects?

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Speaker 7: Okay, So what was your last project? The one that

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Speaker 7: just finished?

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Speaker 5: It was it was for an updating like a subway station?

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Speaker 4: What I mean, people really do this?

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Speaker 7: Does this sound like that's true?

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Speaker 4: I can.

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Speaker 2: I can see Selfie's side on this, Thomas. You're not

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Speaker 2: giving enough detail to make it sound convincing.

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Speaker 5: Really, I was just gonna I mean, the truth is

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Speaker 5: I work from what was my dad's company, and I

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Speaker 5: still you know, I've taken over a lot of responsibility.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like maybe that's that's something I've been

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Speaker 5: hesitant to say because it's not like I've built it myself.

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Speaker 4: I think that's where also, maybe there doesn't need to

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Speaker 4: be that much pressure on your job on a first date.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, fine, okay, so all right? Really what about

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Speaker 7: the height?

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Speaker 3: Like how tall are you?

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Speaker 7: Actually?

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Speaker 5: When I go to the doctor, they say I'm a

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Speaker 5: six foot flat?

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Speaker 7: Are you pain in this?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 3: If you want to go on another date, you could

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Speaker 3: measure me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there you go, Sophie. Would you like to go

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Speaker 2: on another date with Thomas. We'll pay for it, then

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Speaker 2: you can measure him.

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Speaker 7: No, I don't want to measure him. I don't want

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Speaker 7: to do that. Okay, No, there's absolutely no way.

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Speaker 4: They don't sound that compatible. To be honest, we're not. Okay.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for being honest.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for thanking me.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's your lot. Yeah, you could have measured me

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Speaker 3: in more ways than one.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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