WEBVTT - Mia Changes Everything! 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:04.640 Amy and TJ present Aubrey o Day covering the Didty trial. 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:07.480 Hey guys, it's Aubrey O'Day. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.840 Welcome back to the coverage of the Diddy trial, brought 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.680 to you by TJ and Amy. I am so excited. 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:16.880 I know I always am excited about my guests, but 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:21.720 I have a very, very established attorney who has got 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.200 her own show with her husband on iHeartRadio called Legally 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:30.800 Burnette Emily. I have to say as one single non lawyer, 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:35.160 but think she is to one very housewifed up attorney 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:36.200 who is legit. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:38.920 I am so happy to finally be talking this case 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:39.159 with you. 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.360 I really want to get into me a bombshell this week, 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.360 bombshell for the prosecution. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.520 You know, I'm excited to talk to you too, because 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:49.640 obviously my husband and I have been covering the trial. 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:51.960 We do a lot of legal analysis, you know, we 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.640 break it down. We talked about testimony, you know, we 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.320 talk about Rico and what he's actually being charged with 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.640 and whether the prosecution is meeting those burdens. But I 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.200 will tell you it's very interesting for me as a 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.000 lawyer to talk to you because it's not very often 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.480 that I actually get the opportunity to talk to someone 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:13.360 who has personal experience with a legal issue that we're 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:15.320 discussing and that we're analyzing. 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.560 So this is a win win for both of us. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.480 So yes, I agree. 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.000 I can't wait. You can teach me how to catch 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.680 your husband, teach me the law, all right, but we'll 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:26.600 work on that, okay. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:31.480 So with Mia, I just want to first establish two 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:32.600 days of testimony. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.240 She still is going to be in cross on Monday. 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:39.200 We ended today with Brian Steel cross examining her. 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:41.840 For those that don't know, Brian Steele. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:45.040 Is in most cases probably one of the best most 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.800 effective lawyers on Diddy's side, and probably this was one 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.880 of the worst crosses in the entire trial for me personally. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:57.680 It ventured over into victim blaming, which at this point 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:01.600 I think Dawn the therapist is established for the most part, 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.200 everybody's kind of established. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:04.960 People that are victims. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.639 Do go back to their abusers, They do have shame 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.960 in their stories, They do go back to things that 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.800 are familiar in order to just forget and not and 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.160 pretend like it didn't happen, in order to find normalcy again. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:21.080 This contact back with abusers, this you know, wanting to 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.400 work back with them or communicate with them. It's a 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.440 nothing burger for me at this point. If that's all 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.360 you have, then you don't have much. 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.000 Well, I would agree with that, and I would say 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:31.919 that's basically what the defense has, and that's what they're 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:36.160 going to focus on on every single way forward. It's 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.079 always to be why did you stay, why were you 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.760 there so long? Why did you engage? Why did you 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.280 come back? Why did you keep showing. 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:43.680 Up for work? 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.720 And I thought it was really important that the prosecution 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:49.680 did put Dawn on, who I can't remember is she psychiatrists? 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:54.160 She's a clinic forensic psychology segment. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:59.560 Right, and we know she also testified and the ambramber Johnny, Yeah, right, 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.240 So but I thought it was really important that they 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:03.040 brought her forward. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.079 And I'm sure you probably agree with that, because that's 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.440 the question that the jury has is why did people 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.560 continue to go back? Why did they stay, why did 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.520 they show up for work the next day? Why did 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.480 they assistance spend years? And so it was important for 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.360 her to come on. But you have your own personal 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:20.320 experience in that realm as well. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.480 Yeah, And for me personally, you know, I was fired 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:28.560 on national television after years and years of leading up 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.480 this band for being raunchy and promiscuous and bad for business, 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.240 which none was true. I wish at the time we 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.800 were in an era where things like me Too, and 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.480 a lot of movements now that have occurred where you 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.040 can go against corporations and you can sue people for 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.000 wrongful termination, and it is something that feels more available 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.280 to us. Back then, even with parents' lawyers and very 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.200 established lawyers surrounding me, no one gave me that idea. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.720 And now, of course I'm past the statute of limitations. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.320 But I have seen what happens when you don't do 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.680 what he wants and you get fired and you get blacklisted, 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.480 and I experienced blacklisting, and I know what that looks like. 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.680 It's very real, the threat that everyone is saying about 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.600 not wanting to be well, I got to the other 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.160 side of it, and it's real. It's actually a real thing, 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.640 and it does happen, and it's humiliating and shameful, and 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:18.760 half of it I put out of my head, and 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.559 half of it I'll wake up out of my sleep 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.920 sometimes in cringe that I was in that position and 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:26.159 I didn't understand even that it was all designed just 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:27.760 to humiliate me a step further? 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:28.760 Right? 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.120 Wait, I can I ask a question because I think 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.240 this is ironic what I was listening to you talk? 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.480 Weren't you poised as the sexy one? 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.200 Wasn't that? Weren't they? Wasn't it? 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.480 The intent was to establish you as like the pretty 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.720 the sexy one, and then you end up getting fired 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.159 for being like the sexy one? 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:46.279 Was that the do I? 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:46.520 Really? 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:46.840 Yeah? 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.320 And also how funny is it I get end up 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.000 being fired for being raunchy and promiscuous and that's. 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:52.640 Bad for business. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.600 If it's bad for business, well then did he must 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:56.599 be really bad for business because we all know that 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.440 he likes a little raunchy and promiscuous At this point. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.400 Well, it seemed to work well for his business, actually, 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.159 because the fan has done it. 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.520 For years and years and years and years and years 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:07.840 and is a billionaire. 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.080 And that part right there for me is where I'm 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:15.200 at with this. I'm very I feel very strong after 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:18.640 me as testimony about what has been proven, and let 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.719 we'll get into that as we continue, But beyond that, 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.000 I'm really interested in systematic changes. You know, I talked 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.960 about Capricorn's testimony I would have liked it to go 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.680 a little bit further into details of who made payments 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.560 to her, and let's establish a few more people. 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.360 Because there are the trail is. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.440 You got to remember that this man was still in 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.080 order to stay at the levels and operate at the 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.919 levels of destruction that he was operating at for so long, 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.000 you have to have your pockets continuing to be fed. 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.599 You have to have the whole establishment basically behind you. 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:54.240 Now, how much. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.960 People's knowledge of things were is always something that I assess, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.440 but you know, my first hand knowledge of when I 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.640 was around, there were people that saw plenty of things, 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.720 and plenty of things kind of been stopped by very 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.880 big people. And they continued on. It continued on. They 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:10.919 fired me, and I even had to go back to 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.200 Reunion and get beat up some more under those same 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:17.560 terminology statements, everyone knowing damn well that those things aren't true. 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.200 I had to play the character of that, and they 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.719 just allowed me to get lashing after lashing. They created 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:25.800 a narrative that I could never get up under and 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.080 in fact had to play into for most of my career. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.440 I am definitely not sexy or pretty in my head. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:36.360 I've learned how to be according to society standards, because unfortunately, 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.680 that's the lane that I was left with, and that 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.760 was the only opportunity I had when I left. Everybody 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.400 pretended like there were opportunities and music in there, but 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.320 really all of those turned out to be rooms that 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.279 were built to humiliate and make me walk away in 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:57.080 very big, deep amounts of shame and feeling like I 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.560 wasn't good enough and like a loser, and not understanding 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.480 that all of that more orchestrated and controlled. And then 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.440 the only person that came to me with a real 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.400 big opportunity was Hugh Hefner to do the cover of Playboy. 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.880 And then that's how you end up going down a 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.480 lane that doesn't necessarily feel like you. 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.560 But there's a lot of limitations in my contract. 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.400 My mom's a good lawyer, so I didn't have to 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.800 show anything I didn't want to show. And you know, 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.680 you in chovern to the pictures that are painted for you. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.360 I'm sure even as a reality TV person, you've had 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.880 painted pictures of you created either by your cast members 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:31.440 or by editing or producers. They're all involved, and you've 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.200 had to find ways to sometimes lean in and sometimes 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:35.960 absolutely establish No. 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.720 Yeah, well, I would also say when you were going 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.080 through that, that was a different time period. And I 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.280 think that it was now because of all these women 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.559 that have come forward like Cassie and there's been women 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.720 before her, and with the Me Too movement, I think 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.720 women are more empowered now to stand up for themselves 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.240 and to say I'm not comfortable doing that, that's not right. 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.480 The problem is is that this was early two thousands 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.040 for you, right, And I don't think that you had 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:05.520 anyone advocating on your behalf. And when we talk about 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.120 Diddy and we talk about this trial and we talk 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.280 about the prosecution, you're absolutely right when you say that 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.160 this was a whole network of people that knew what 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.760 was going on. And clearly there were deep pockets, there 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.960 were people being paid, there were people turning away. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.720 What I loved getting back to the testimony with Mia 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.560 is she is the first witness to establish a different 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.920 pattern of behavior in regards to sexual abuse. This isn't 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:31.920 a girlfriend, This isn't somebody that wanted to be a girlfriend. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.360 This is somebody that was an employee. This was somebody 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.320 that was raped in ways where she's in a closet 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.640 packing his suitcase and he's got his dick out and 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:42.720 forcing it in her mouth. 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:43.880 Allegedly. 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:49.839 This isn't the standard freak off staged event that's going on. 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:53.200 And we're now venturing into other territories of other abusive 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.920 types of behavior. The force is still there, like in 0:08:55.960 --> 0:09:01.679 every other case, the coercion is still there. Basically, everything 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.000 he did, from making her live into in his home, 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:10.000 the not eating, not not being able, working ridiculous amount 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:11.679 of days, four or five days straight, all of that 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:12.440 was very standard. 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:13.280 We went through that too. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.960 I mean, to me, I just felt like, this is 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.080 what it is when you are working at. 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:19.160 This powerful of a level. 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.280 It wasn't until I worked at that powerful of a 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.840 level with that even more powerful essentially sometimes people that 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.160 I realized, oh, these motherfuckers take a lot of breaks. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.480 Y'all are a little bit late in all honesty. Presidents, sir, 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.680 you're a bit late. You're an apprentice. I mean, the 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.960 work ethic was way different over this side. But I 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.920 learned that actually people do get water and bathroom breaks 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:42.880 and food at lunch, et cetera. That's was just not 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.319 something that that that. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:45.920 We were used to. 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.640 But as far as Mia goes she's a critical witness 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.640 because unlike the other two government victims, this is just 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.320 not a former romantic partner. This is an employee. She 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:58.720 was sexually abused allegedly. They're victim blaming her on the 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.400 cross and it's not really working for me. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:02.760 It absolutely doesn't work. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.600 You know, you always have to wonder if there's that 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:08.640 one person in the jury that just doesn't understand. But 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.200 then again, you never know. They always surprise you. As 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.200 kind of what every attorney has always told me along 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:17.120 the way. Mia, in regards to Rico, I feel she's 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.080 established that in a big way. 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.120 So you because I've worried. My worry in this case 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:24.280 is establishing Rico. 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:26.360 So I was. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.480 Feeling up until this point where you're saying when Mia 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.800 comes in and again I don't know if we establish 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:33.640 this already, but me as a pseudonym. So that is 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:34.560 not her real name. 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.000 No, that's not a real name. 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.080 I was wondering if you know who she is? 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:43.720 Yes, yes, so you know her personally and you've met 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.920 her before or had interactions with her before. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.199 Yes, And what do you. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.200 Think I want to know your opinion on this. What 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.440 is do you think is her reasoning for using a 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.079 pseudonym because clearly she's sitting in court across from him. 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:57.360 He knows who she is. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.640 I assume it's just to keep her name out of 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:04.240 the press. However, at some point it's going to be 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.480 released and it's going to get out there. There's no 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.560 way you can keep that secret for a long period 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:08.960 of time. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.720 So to me, it's just let me say this. You'd 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.600 be really surprised. I did a search to see how 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.600 easy it was to figure out who she was based off. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:21.800 Of just her testimony alone. In regards to her work profile, right, 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:22.760 it's wiped. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:24.640 Oh wow, really. 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.440 It is wiped. It's not on the Revolt site. It's 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.800 completely wiped off of all of that. I have people 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.400 news friends that work for very big news sources that 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.640 all are still don't know who she is. They could 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.720 describe her to me because they're in court seeing her. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.400 I already know who she is, but I would never 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:48.440 tell anyone who she is. But I am super impressed 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.960 with how she really has been able to be the 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:56.040 glue that has connected a lot of these pieces together 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:01.040 because she provides a different a different experience within the 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.880 same being able to validate Cassie's experiences being able to 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.720 validate a lot of people's experiences also though, being able 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.320 to widen the gap of what an employee witnessed and 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.960 had to go through in that she was carrying drugs, 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:19.320 she was around criminal behavior constantly, she was assaulted, there 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.600 was force, there was coercion, and there was criminal behavior 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.360 going on allegedly the entire time. And I didn't see 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:31.040 Brian Steele doing his magic at all. And if anyone 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.160 could be magical in this moment, it would be him. 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:34.920 He's very good at what he does. 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.319 Right, And you have to remember, just everyone out there listening. 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.440 The prosecution has to prove Rico, which means that they 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:44.480 have to prove that Diddy worked as a criminal enterprise 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.600 and that he was at the top, and that all 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:50.160 of his employees were working together for a unified benefit 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.720 of this criminal enterprise. And so far, when you have 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.920 Cassie testifying and you have some personal assistance testifying, it 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.559 was like, I don't know, are we establishing a criminal enterprise? 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.440 What can you Can you explain to me what criminal 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.000 enterprise legally means? 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:04.400 Can it be? 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.480 Because what I've what I understand about RICO was created 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.360 for the mob families is to take that those situations down. 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.240 But in the past couple of years from what I 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.360 understand that it's really been stretched and utilized in other 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.520 cases in different ways, and you've been able to establish 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.400 smaller corporations run by one big. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.200 Lead and less people. 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.200 They've been able to utilize it and win in cases 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.200 that don't look as aggressive as a mob case would. 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.240 And so I really want you to explain to the 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:35.400 audience how small it could actually be and and still 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.600 have this successful RICO charge like exem and and R Kelly. 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:40.839 Can you can talk about those two. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.439 R Kelly was that's one person at the top there 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.319 was benefiting from a lot of things that had a 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.120 lot of people around him doing criminal things, moving people, 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.520 and he got charged. So tell me how low the 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.080 bar can be and still get a conviction in regards 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:55.600 to people. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:14:00.360 Well, you know, it's actually it defines RICO defines and 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.160 enterprise a criminal enterprise. It's actually defined very broadly, which 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.040 is good because we don't want to have a very 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.640 narrow scope on it. And it's really just a business 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.000 or a group of people that are based in criminal activity. 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.560 And really it's you have to have two criminal acts 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.560 within a ten year time period. So I feel like 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.760 there were a check right, check right, exactly, and it's 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:25.960 for one common just you know, one common unified goal, 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.040 which is Ditty at the top and whatever it is. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:29.400 That he can. 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.600 And also the one common, one common thread too is 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.160 who was paying everybody, and that is bad Boy Cassie 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.800 was doing. She said her full time job became being 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.680 a girl in the freak Offs doing sex work, but 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.760 she was paid under bad Boy with the same payment 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.080 that an artist waiting for ten albums to come out 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.840 would be being paid. But she wasn't making albums. She 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.240 was doing sex work and that was expected of her. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.440 Those payments were coming from bad Boy. MIA's payments were 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:03.080 coming from bad Boy. Capricorn's were coming from bad Boy. Allegedly, 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.400 all of the abuse was under Diddy and bad Boy 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.640 was his corporation. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.160 Right, And of course they had kid cutting testify to 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.240 the arson and burglary. 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.320 And kidnapping with Capricorn. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.480 Exactly, because there you have you're establishing not only is 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.200 there the sex acts and the sex trafficking, but then 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.760 you have the burglary or you have the arson, So 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:28.360 you're establishing obviously more than two criminal acts within a 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:29.440 ten year time period. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:33.400 So, you know, do you feel that it's been that 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.720 the burden has been met just right now today? 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:38.080 I don't know. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.000 I mean, I think so it really depends on how 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.720 savvy the jury is. And I really feel like there's 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.880 gonna First of all, we're only in week three of testimony, 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.200 so obviously there's going to be more people that testify, 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.800 and then it really comes down to prosecution when they 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.360 do their closing arguments to actually tie it all together 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.960 for the jury so that they understand how all these 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.400 people were involved, how they were paid, and how they 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:04.040 were all you in this criminal enterprise for his benefit. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:05.680 And I think that they'll be able to do that 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:06.800 once we have more witnesses. 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.120 Well, what kind of witnesses are you you personally still 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:14.040 wanting to see because I have to take the jury 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.840 and the possibility that somebody just doesn't get it on 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:18.720 the jury out of my head because there's so many 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:20.920 people that don't get it anymore in our society. I'm 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.240 scared to death about that. But if we put all 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.440 of that aside, and you who is credible and understands 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.280 this and understands the testimony. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.640 And is well versed. What more do you need to see? 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.800 You know, I would like more, I wouldn't. 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:39.480 I would like security to come forward, bodyguard bodyguards and 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.600 say I protected him, this is what I saw, I 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:43.760 took these payments. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.680 I just something, just a little bit more. 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.160 I mean, in my mind, Rico's established. I'm just saying 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:53.160 on a jury. Have they established it yet? I don't know, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.880 but we still have weeks of testimony, and obviously I'm 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.240 also it surprises me that you weren't summoned, you know. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:04.840 I think because so at there's a piece of my story. 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.480 There's pieces of my story that I can't speak about 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:11.960 because I have an exclusivity in a different situation. And 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.359 that was done prior to even understanding that any of 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.359 this type of justice was going to be something that 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.800 was available and real in my lifetime. 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.159 So a lot of us went. 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.199 In a direction to hope to seek justice with somebody 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:25.840 that felt like they were going to get to the 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.480 bottom of it. Now that we're getting it to the 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.000 bottom of it in front of the world that have 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.399 been allowed to do this, you know, but without sharing 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:36.359 my full story. So it's hard to get into that part. 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:40.919 But I will say, you'd have to remember. If something 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.760 were to have happened to you, you'd have to remember 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.280 it in order to sit on the stand and discuss it, right, 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.280 So that would be a reason someone would be summoned. 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.439 If somebody witnessed something and you didn't remember it, or 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.160 you had no recollection of it, then you wouldn't necessarily 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:58.400 be a valuable witness. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.000 As far as like the beatings and things like that. 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.840 A lot of the stuff that is being spoken about, 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:07.800 and a lot of the really bad stuff was happening 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.399 during a dirty money era of the run, and that 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.080 was after I was already fired. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:17.480 So you're saying a little pre maybe a little your 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.680 experience was before it really started to take off into 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:21.000 some of. 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:25.159 These in my opinion, allegedly it was taken off in 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:32.560 the nineties. But in regards to you know, these are 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:38.520 very specific criminal charges and you'd have to really be 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:44.240 able to bolster very specific criminal situations. And I have 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.720 never been a willing participant in anything criminal. 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.360 Okay, let me ask you a question, did you were 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.200 you aware of these alleged I guess they're not alleged 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.240 because they're on tape and we've seen them. But these 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.520 freak offs when you had your experience, was that something 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.000 that you had heard of, that you saw, that you witnessed, 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:00.760