1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two. On this Thursday, Dan and The 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: Dane's Dan Patrick Show spent some time with the mean 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: spirited Jay Billis. In the first hour of the program, 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: gave us some thoughts on Reggie Bush being welcome back 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: by the USC community. Jay thinks he should get his 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: heisman back and they should retire his jersey. We want 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: to make this clear about what happened with Reggie Bush, 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: because I think there's a misconception. This is the fall 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: of two ten is when Reggie Bush finally gave his 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: heisman back. Now that was the heisman that he won 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: in two thousand and five. He was stripped of it, 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: and he gave it back a year later, and now 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: he was stripped to the title. So if you look 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: at the heisman list, there's no one there. It's been 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: vacated for two thousand and five. It's like if you 17 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: go to the Tour de France Lance Armstrong, those titles 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: have been vacated. That's what happened with Reggie Bush. And 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: we were doing some CSI Heisman work back then. Holly, 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: I know was on the trail of where's that heisman? 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Because USC sent there, they get a copy of the 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: heisman that's in Heritage Hall with all the other Heisman 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: Trophy winners. Pat Hayden, the athletic director. They sent that 24 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: heisman back to the Heisman Trust, and then Reggie Bush 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: had his heisman, and then we found out that it 26 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: was sort of stored in San Diego. And then eventually 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush, the Heisman Trust has a large shipping container 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: and you know Carson Palmer sent that he sent put 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: his heisman in that shipping container when he sent it 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: to us, and it's here in our man cave just 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: to protect it, and they sent him this protective packaging. 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: And Reggie Bush eventually sent the heisman back. I don't 33 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: know if he's getting that heisman back. You know, he 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: can be welcomed back by USC, but the Heisman Trust, 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to say unlikely. And if you don't recognize 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: him as the winner, I don't know if you all 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden go on second thought, we're going to 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: recognize you as the winner. USC was unfairly punished. We 39 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: can all agree on that. And what happened with Reggie Bush. 40 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: You're starting to see some of the same kind of 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: information coming out with Zion Williamson. But this is a 42 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: whole different era. I mean, this is fifteen years later. 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if we care if players get paid 44 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: when they go in for a one and done. I 45 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: assume they're getting something on a one and done and 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: if Zion Williamson's parents got something. The tricky part is 47 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: it's Duke did Coach K? No? Was this a booster 48 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: and or shoe company involved in this? Now? Coach K 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: is the only reason why this is interesting for anybody, 50 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: because Zion is in the pros. You don't want Zion 51 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: on the stand and all of a sudden, Coach K 52 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: has to be on the stand. And maybe you do, 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: but that could be really damaging. But look, Duke's guilty 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: and the NCAA wants to go in and do an investigation, 55 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: go get him. Am I surprised? Would I be surprised? Nothing? 56 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: Nothing surprises me anymore. You know, did Zion deserve this? Hey? 57 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: You know he's a one and done? All right, we 58 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: can have that argument, that discussion. But Zion, to me, 59 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: if you're on tape with one of their assistant coaches 60 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: saying this is what Zion's parents want, or his stepfather 61 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: wants to go to Kansas. Why do I have the assumption, Hey, 62 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: he's going to Duke and he didn't get anything when 63 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: he could have gone to Duke from the beginning, which 64 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: is where you know, if player gets recruited by Duke, 65 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: you probably immediately go, I'm going to Duke. As I 66 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: told you, I guess it was earlier in the week. 67 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: I had a coach who said, when we were joking 68 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: about recruiting, and I said, now, why didn't you get Zion? 69 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: He goes, I got outbid. I said, what do you mean? 70 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: He goes, I guess the package that was being all 71 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: was better than the one that we were offering. And 72 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: so then I'm going, well, what did you offer? And 73 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: he talked about housing and cars and I said what 74 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: about money? He goes, No, it was housing and cars. 75 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: I don't know if money was transferred here. But once again, 76 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: this is what college athletics has been. Is it always 77 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: on display? Is every player going to be corrupted or 78 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: they try to corrupt him? No, I won't say that, 79 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: but I do. It happens, and it happens everywhere. Now, 80 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: if this was at Kentucky, we'd be killing Calipari. If 81 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: this you know if this is Kansas killing him, Rick 82 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: Pottino killing him, it's Mike Hushovski And I think obviously 83 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: innocent until proven guilty. What did you know? Are you 84 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: going to be a control freak with your basketball program? 85 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: But you have no idea this is going on? This 86 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: is the same thing that we railed on Rick Pottino. 87 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: How do you not know? I don't know if coach 88 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: k knew where Zion's family was. I can't sit here 89 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: and go Maybe Zion didn't ask a question. What are 90 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: the odds that Zion sees where his parents are now 91 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: living and sees the house, the cars that they're driving, 92 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: and doesn't go, hey, mom, nice ride, where'd you get it? 93 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: You got three? And these are pretty expensive? Hooped. He's 94 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: here like you're going, wait a minute here, Like I 95 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: would do that. If my dad brought a drive a 96 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: new car home, I go, whoa, you got a new car? Dad? 97 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go on sailing. I'm not gonna say anything. Kids, 98 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: get in the car. We're moving which one? Dad? Can 99 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: you be more specific? Yeah, Paully. The thing I'm most 100 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: interested is if if this goes down the road and 101 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 1: doesn't get settled, actually he gets bigger. Does Mike Chessi 102 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: get the same treatment of guys like rip Puttino Because 103 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: Rick know a lot of people when he was accused 104 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: of different things and accused of paying players and et cetera. 105 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: They are like, well, even if he didn't know, he 106 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: should have known, and it's under his watch, so there's 107 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: no excuse. Well, Mike Schefski get the defensive side of that. Well, 108 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: he can't know everything. He wasn't but this is he 109 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: didn't participate it. This is the most publicized college athlete 110 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: we've had in a long time, and nobody thought anything 111 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: of where his parents were now living and what cars 112 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: he was driving. Do you not want to know? You know, 113 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: we gotta be We can't pick and choose when it 114 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: comes to this. Yeah. See, well, I mean you just 115 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 1: start going down. Just take a look at the NBA 116 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: Draft and how well duke players are doing there, and 117 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: I mean you start asking lots of questions. There's a 118 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of talent this program. Oh, by 119 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: the way, we got a new gear for Father's Day, 120 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: new shirts, caps, mugs, Father's Day. Check it out. Dan 121 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: Patrick shipping. By the way, you want to get those 122 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: orders in Monday's probably the last day before you can 123 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 1: get it for a Father's Day next Monday, Yeah, Monday, Okay. 124 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: Mclevin's got the new hat on there. We love this 125 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: new hat. Everybody that loves a new logo in the 126 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: new hat, I would get something good. I like that. 127 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: What's the pole question we're going with? Well, I did 128 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: put up which comes back first, MLB or NBA. It's 129 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: actually surprisingly closet MLB. I mean it should be right. Well, no, 130 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: it was going to be the NBA, the NBA. It 131 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: felt like they had all of this planned out. We 132 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: knew exactly what was going on, where it was going 133 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: to take place, We had the dates for everything. We 134 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: knew when the playoffs were starting in the NBA finals 135 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: were starting. We knew it all. And then all of 136 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: a sudden, Brian Windhorst and Adrian Wojnarowski of the Mothership 137 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: came out and said, not everybody is on board with 138 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: going to Orlando. How is it that players on the 139 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: twenty two teams who don't go and play in Orlando, 140 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: these are the teams that qualify and they can't prove 141 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: medical history, they don't get paid. But every player on 142 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: the eight teams who don't go to Orlando are going 143 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: to get paid the medical records here? Did you see 144 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: where they're not testing for marijuana for these players just 145 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: in case they were having some fun here in their 146 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: offseason while they're waiting for basketball to come back. But 147 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, is the anthem going to be played before 148 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: these games here? What if you know your partner, your 149 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: wife is pregnant, you're gonna be there for a couple 150 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: of months. And then I saw this where the NBA 151 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: might lock reporters inside. See, I think they need to 152 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: change that. You know, the we're gonna lock reporters inside 153 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: the Disney bubble for three and a half months. I 154 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: don't know how many members of the media are going 155 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: to go. It depends on what the availability is. But man, 156 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: they might lock report orders in and if you leave 157 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: the Disney bubble, you can't get back in. You're done. 158 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: Yes time, the reporters expected and encouraged to stay on 159 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: the grounds that the phraseology they could so they don't 160 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: fight with some kind of prison sentence for the next 161 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: three months. Well, yeah, I just don't think you want 162 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: to have the might lock reporters inside the Disney bubble. 163 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it's an interesting headline that I saw on 164 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: the Daily Beast, and that's why I clicked on it. 165 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: But this, according to the Professional Basketball Writers Association, a 166 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: memo that said a select group of reporters could be 167 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: locked inside the Disney bubble for at least three and 168 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: a half months and no options to re enter if 169 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: they exit quarantine. Yeapo, I see, I think this is 170 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: you're looking this the wrong way. If you're an NBA 171 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: reporter or media member who happens to have children, you 172 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: bring the whole family down and you work in passes 173 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: and the whole thing. Your kids are just banging on 174 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: you to go to Disney every year. Now, your kids, 175 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: we're going to Disney for eight weeks. Yeah, but Disney 176 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: is open, right, That's what I'm saying. You're you're the 177 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: big hero if you're dad. But I don't are you 178 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: able to go to Disney World. Let the kids stay 179 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: at the Matterhorn or whatever the other hotel is, and 180 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: you take care of the games. I don't know if 181 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: they're allowed to. Now. This was preliminary in what I 182 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: heard that they could go play golf, but that was zipped. 183 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: You could leave the property go play golf. I don't 184 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: know if you can go to Disney World with your 185 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: family because that's open for business. Yeah, but then you 186 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: fast forward to you know, you're there for eight weeks, 187 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: and you fast forward to week two when your kids 188 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: are already bored of all the rides because they've been 189 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: on them thirty seven times, and you're like, I probably 190 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: to Disney World. How can you be bored? And you're 191 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: losing your mind? And now you're trapped there for another 192 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: seven six, seven weeks with board kids Disney World. You're 193 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: at Disney World, how can you be bored? Yeah? Mcglov 194 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: I don't understand. The NFL training camp opens July twenty eighth, 195 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: and they haven't said a thing about not letting reporters there, 196 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: so you could have throngs at the NFL reporters just 197 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: openly walking in and out of camps. I don't know 198 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: how it's gonna work. They haven't said anything, but the 199 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: NBA's gonna be out of step with everybody else. Everyone 200 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: else is gonna be doing this normal. Yeah, but I 201 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: think the NFL is letting everybody else do some testing 202 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: here and then they're just watching. The NFL gets to 203 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: cherry pick on all of this and say, well, that work. 204 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: That didn't work. We got to fix that. We can 205 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: do that better. That's great. Feels like that's what they're 206 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: doing right now. And I don't know if the members 207 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: of the media have to be you know, sequestered over 208 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: here and then you can have a player who shows 209 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: up via zoom or six feet away. I don't I 210 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: don't know. It's just not that they're not gonna be 211 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: milling about in the locker room here for at any sport. No, No, 212 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that. Right. We'll get phone calls here 213 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: coming up. NASCAR made a significant announcement yesterday it will 214 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: ban the presence of the Confederate flag at all events. 215 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: Now there's gonna be a faction of the racing fans 216 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: who aren't happy. But NASCAR's statement said at all they 217 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: want to provide a welcoming and inclusive environment for all fans, 218 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: and that's the only acceptable position here. You can forget 219 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: arguments about history and heritage. And I know I'm going 220 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: to hear about this. Please be nice to Marvin when 221 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: you call in to get mad at me. The line 222 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: is the flag made people, some people very unhappy, and 223 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: that's all we need to do. Take it down. And look, 224 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: I have a dear friend and Darius Rucker. I love 225 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: him and I've known him for twenty six years and 226 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,239 Speaker 1: he has not stopped in wanting to get the Confederate 227 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: flag taken down off the state House. They finally did, 228 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: but it took him a long time. But he has 229 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: talked about this. Why do we allow this? He will 230 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: go sing the anthem at NASCAR events. He's been there 231 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: and he knows that he's looking around and seeing Confederate flags. 232 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: Bubba Wallace can't applaud you enough. The only African American 233 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,239 Speaker 1: driver in the sport, and he urged the sports organizers 234 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: to implement the Confederate flag ban. Now, all of a sudden, 235 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: you have an opening. I'm sure that he wanted to 236 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: do this before. Now with Black Lives Matter, and he's 237 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: got that on the side of his car, headed on 238 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: his car last night at Martinsville. Now there's the opening. 239 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: NASCAR can't go m We're not going to be listening 240 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: to that because nothing has changed from NASCAR's perspective except 241 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: for here's Bubba Watson saying it's time for a change. 242 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: Because NASCAR was not going to change this. Now this 243 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: is a privately run business, a family run business, and 244 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: sometimes drivers do things to push their teammates ahead. And 245 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: that's exactly what Bubba Wallace did for everyone. He didn't 246 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: win the race last night, but he won something far 247 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: more important. And to take that stand and do it now, 248 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: and to do it in that sport. I have great 249 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: admiration for what Bubba Wallace was able to do. But 250 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: you start to look around and you ask yourself why 251 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: was this allowed? And it was allowed, it was tolerated. 252 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to have people still 253 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: bringing the Confederate flags in. This is a sport that 254 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: started in the South. It started it was bootleggers. You know, 255 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 1: these are guys who were racing cars, getting you know, 256 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: whiskey to other places and of all things, of all 257 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: names to have, here's Bubba Bubba in the South, and 258 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: it's an African American in NASCAR taking this stand courageous, 259 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: but has the Black Lives Matter on his car? Had 260 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: that last night? As as we move forward with this, 261 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: and I have to believe that people when you bring 262 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: in Winnebagos or I mean, these are people get there 263 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: on what Sunday or Monday, they stay the whole week, 264 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: and you're probably going to have this Daytona Darlington where 265 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: somebody's going to bring out the Confederate flag. There's only 266 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: so much you can do. But I applaud NASCAR for 267 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: listening to Bubba Wallace here. And Bubba Wallace had the platform, 268 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: he had the stage, he had the microphone. He took it, 269 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: he took it, and then he dropped it, dropped the 270 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: mic after what he said. And I great admiration for 271 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: the courage that that had to take in that sport. 272 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: All right, we'll get some phone calls in here and 273 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: then we'll take a break. Brad, and North Carolina joins us. Hi, Brad, 274 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: what do you have for me today? Hey, good morning, Dan. 275 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: I just wanted to comment on the Duke's zion situation 276 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: and just here in North Carolina at the hypocrisy of 277 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: especially our local media going through what UNC went through 278 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: for the better part of the last decade. And we've 279 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: just got hammered by people like Dan Kine of the 280 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: Newsroom Deserver and none of that is occurring because for 281 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: some reason, Mike Hushovski and Duke are just holier than now. 282 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: And so I appreciate that you guys are shining some 283 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: light on it because it's something that really just doesn't 284 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: get talked about here locally. All right, Well, I know 285 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: that battle lines are drawn there with North Carolina and Duke, 286 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: and North Carolina is saying, wait a minute here, whenever 287 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: we're investigated, nobody comes to our defense. No, they don't. 288 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: The reason why Duke is probably getting a little a 289 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: little more sensitive treatment here is because of Mike Shuchevski 290 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: and what he has represented to the sport and to 291 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: his players and to that community. It doesn't mean that 292 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: Duke didn't do this or that coach didn't know about this, 293 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: because I don't know that. All I know there's information 294 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: out there that Zion Williamson greatly improved his family's living conditions. 295 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: Rent was eight ninety five and it went it went 296 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: to almost five thousand. I don't know what you get 297 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: for five thousand dollars a month in Durham, North Carolina. 298 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: But they had cars as well. Now you've already had 299 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: a lot of conversation about did Nike was Nike paying 300 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: Zion to go to Duke? And maybe coach you know, 301 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: does Coach K say, Zion, are you getting paid? I 302 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: don't think that conversation probably takes place if his parents 303 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: are getting paid. Does Mike Shashevsky ask about that. I 304 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: don't know how far coaches go in protecting your program 305 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: because you have to ask those questions. If I have 306 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: a highly recruited athlete, I know that I gotta understand 307 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: exactly what's going on here because this could come back 308 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: and put my team on probation while you go into 309 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: the NBA. I'm still here and I have to deal 310 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: with the aftershocks here. I don't know if you get 311 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: around asking those questions. And would Zion Williamson be forthcoming 312 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: or did he know? Did he care to know? Did 313 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: he get anything his parents did? And this goes back 314 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: to Reggie Bush. If Reggie Bush pays the money back 315 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: to this marketing firm or he stays with him, this 316 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: goes away. When he said I'm not going to pay you, 317 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: then he rated him out and that led to something 318 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: that almost rivaled SMU when they gave them the death penalty. 319 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: But you had Yahoo Sports that went in, and then 320 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: the NCAA came in and piggyback that and then all 321 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: of a sudden USC and USC has not recovered It 322 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: was like a death penalty, a death sentence for that program. 323 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: If Reggie Bush pays them back or stays with him, 324 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: this doesn't come out. Zion Williamson, if he stays with 325 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: his marketing firm or agents, this doesn't come out. But 326 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: it does. And then people realize Zion Williamson is worth 327 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars, maybe even more. And these people 328 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: are saying, wait a minute, you sign a contract with us. 329 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: We want this, We deserve something here, and this is 330 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: all about future earnings. Here. Jay billis join this last 331 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: hour and he said, I don't think this, you know, 332 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: goes to trial. I don't know if there's a settlement here, 333 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: but it does feel like some damage has been done 334 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: because it's Zion Williamson, it's coach k and it's due Kampo. 335 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: Can you guys imagine the job of being a compliance 336 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: officer at a big time football or basketball school. Like 337 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: you're trying to put out fires all the time, avoid 338 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: issues in advance. But you have ninety five football players 339 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: at a huge football school and you're do you even 340 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: go in the player parking lot and look and see 341 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: what they're driving up to the client's officer? Are you 342 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: trying to avoid finding out about that. I would that's 343 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: gonna be the weirdest job I go back to. And 344 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: this points out the hypocrisy of the NCAA. But sometimes 345 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: you know, they get blinded. You can't see the forest 346 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: due to the trees. Rick Majerris was at Utah, and 347 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: I've told this story because when Majerris told me this, 348 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: I didn't believe. Rick Majerris is at Utah and he 349 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: got in trouble with the NCIA, and I said, how 350 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: would you get in trouble with the NCAA. He goes, well, 351 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: sit down, like you know, there's gonna be some really 352 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: wild story. Goes one of my players, one of his 353 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: parents passed away. He needed to fly back to Los Angeles, 354 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: and I took him to lunch before he went, and 355 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: they the nc double A punished me because I took 356 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: my player to lunch just to talk to him console 357 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: him before he flew back to Los Angeles. You got 358 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: all this other stuff going on, and we're going to 359 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: crack down on Rick Majerris at Utah because he gave 360 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: a kid a free lunch. 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Reggie Bush was a guest on The Herd 370 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: yesterday and he talked about being welcome back by USC 371 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: the ten year probationary period or that he had to 372 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: disassociate from USC. That ten years has now ended, but 373 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: he went a step further. He wants his heisman back. 374 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: Here's Reggie Bush. To say that I don't want it 375 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: back would be a lie, you know, and so I 376 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: do want to be completely honest about that or one percent. 377 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: I want my Hismol trophy back. But also at the 378 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: same time, I'm more focused on the kids now because 379 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: what happened to me is in the past, and we're 380 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 1: not going to change what happened, and we're not going 381 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: to be able to, you know, change everything that happened 382 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: that situation. But what we can do is learn from 383 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: it now and right, and that's why I'm so happy. 384 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that kids will now be able to 385 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: make money off their name, image and likeness. That's my 386 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: that's my focus right now. The Heisman trophy and everything 387 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: that happened with USC that's in the past. What I 388 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: love to have it back. Hell yes, But at the 389 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: same time, is it my focus right now? Absolutely not. 390 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: All right, that's Reggie Bush on the Herd yesterday, and 391 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: you can stop sending your emails and your tweets about 392 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: OJ Simpson. Why didn't he have to give his heisman back? 393 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: He didn't do anything wrong in college. This is an 394 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: NCAA rule that Reggie Bush broke. That's why they want 395 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: the heisman back. They got the heisman back O. J. 396 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: Simpson was not declared ineligible. Heisman has no jurisdiction over 397 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: what OJ does later in life. I wish they did. 398 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: They could take a heisman back where he sold his height. 399 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: Didn he sell his heisman and then try to steal 400 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: it back? Hello, Twitter world, it's me he apology waiting 401 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: for him to weigh in on Reggie Bush there, that's 402 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: exactly what Reggie I'm sure so he can sell it 403 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: just like I did. Yeah, yeah, I can imagine Reggie 404 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: Bush if OJ comes in his corner. I don't need 405 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: it that bad. I don't need the award that bad. 406 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: I can. I got it some other trophies in my 407 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's got tons of trophy. Uh, Tim and 408 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: South Carolina? Hi, Tim, what do you have for me today? Oh? Damn? 409 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: And thank you too. Marvin Jay Bulls is a hypocrite. 410 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: I can begin there. It's absurd that he's got analogy 411 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: with the beer thing. I mean, Duke rulfully and intentionally 412 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: violated us in the done few years, and they're clothing 413 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: themselves in this shroud of fire. Than to hell. Listen, 414 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: I don't have a dog in the fight with Duke 415 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: North Caroline. I'm gonna graduate of South Carolina. But we 416 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: know it, he goes on. That's not the point. If 417 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: they don't like the rules, change rules. The Dukes know 418 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: better than anyone else and make sure you get in 419 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: trouble just like everyone else. Well, I have to I 420 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: have to wait till I have proof in front of me, though, 421 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: just be I don't care who the coaches, what the 422 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: program is. I would need to have proof if coach 423 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: K is involved in it, what Duke knew was it 424 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: a duke booster, because that's the information that came out 425 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: yesterday that a duke booster set up Zion's family. None 426 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: of it surprises me. There's still an element of shock 427 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: if coach k is somehow implicated in this, if he's 428 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: directly involved in this, there's still the element of shock there. 429 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: But you know, I think we talked about this, what 430 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: would be the sports story that would shock you, Like 431 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: if you said Cal Ripken, Derek Jeter, we're using steroids, 432 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: that would shock me. That would Lance Armstrong didn't surprise me. 433 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: Mark McGuire didn't surprise me. This Zion Williamson's story does 434 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: not surprise me as valuable. Just think about the millions 435 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: of dollars he means to so many different people, ESPN 436 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: and a duke, and Zion's not getting anything out of 437 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: it other than hey, we give you a platform. You 438 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: got thirty one games, they're gonna be televised. Go out 439 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: there and enjoy. And we got some pre shoes. Oh 440 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: that's right, you blew through a pair of shoes and 441 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: we got another pair of shoes for you. Parents had 442 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: their hand out saying hey, can you take care of us. 443 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: They had tons of offers. I don't know what they 444 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: ask for, but I'm assuming for somebody to know what 445 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: you want, you have to tell them what you want. 446 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: There's a market for you. Zion had to go to 447 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: school for eight months, and it's a silly NCAA rule, 448 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: but you're gonna have these high profile players go. And 449 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, these coaches are saying, all I need is 450 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: one great player. I get that one great player. It 451 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: can change my entire program, keep me employed for years. 452 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: I might win a national title here. The amount of 453 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: money and the pressure that it's that's there. But if 454 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm the kids, hey, what's in it for me? I'm 455 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: going to go there. I have to go there. Because 456 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: Zion could have gone right to the pros. RJ. Barrett 457 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: could have gone right to the pros. There's a lot 458 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: of these players, most of the mark. You know, these 459 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: Marquet players can go right to the pros. But coaches, schools, 460 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: everybody benefits but the player. And if he wants to 461 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: take care of his family, I certainly understand it. But 462 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: if you're going to break a contract, that's different. If 463 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: you said Zion got this at Duke, great couldn't care 464 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: less because other schools were bidding on this. But if 465 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: you're going to break a contract, that's when things come 466 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: to light. That's when people get angry here, they get mad, 467 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: they go public with things. That's what happened with Reggie Bush. 468 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: If Reggie pays the money back, nothing happens. But Reggie 469 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: lost his heisman told you disassociate for a decade. I 470 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: don't know what happens with Zion Williamson. I will be 471 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: surprised if it goes to trial. But can you imagine 472 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: coach k Up on the witness stand? How far does 473 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: this go? All? Right? More phone calls Cody and Tennessee, Hi, Cody, 474 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: what do you have for me today? Hey? Rols, I've 475 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: just comment on the zign and pan. I've played NACYC 476 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: for four years and so seen it and was around it, 477 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: and I'd be surprised to see if there's if there's 478 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: a paper trail. You know, one of my favorite coaches 479 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: told me that he's like, you know, if the NCAA 480 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: comes looking, the programs that are trying to be the 481 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: cleanest will be the dirtiest from the outside because there's 482 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: not a facilitator. And then you have road boosters who 483 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: are doing dumb things. I gotta want for to Tahoe. 484 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: I was dumb enough to call my damn tell him 485 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: I was on the way to get it, and uh. 486 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: And so I didn't get it. But you know it's 487 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: simple to do. You know. My booster calls his car guy, 488 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: tells him what I'm good for. And I was en 489 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: route to go. He had three on the lot, used 490 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: and U. And so I go in, I fill out 491 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: the paperwork, I apply for the financing in house. I'm 492 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 1: gonna guaranteed get approved in house and U and then 493 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: he's gonna give me the money to take the payment. 494 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: Everybody and it goes that way all the way through. Wait, 495 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: so you were gonna get well, Cody, you weren't good 496 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: enough to get a new Tahoe. You gotta use Tom. No, 497 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna be the kicker. I was a punter. Oh okay, Oh, 498 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: Pauli is doing research on you here code. Hopefully that's 499 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: not your real name, Cody, because Pauli's now going Cody Tennessee. 500 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: He won't take me, luncher. I didn't get it, Okay, 501 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: all right, fact no, but you know, but they would 502 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: they would make the car payment for you, so you 503 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: you fill out all the paperwork and then you have 504 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: somebody who's making the car payments for you. Either. Most 505 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: of the time they would just would give them the 506 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: guy cash. You know. I got guys that played it, 507 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, and getting recruited, and I actually had quite 508 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: a few offers and so, uh, you know, I have 509 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: friends that played all across the country and uh and 510 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: it was the same song and dance. I played golf. 511 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: He'll I played golf with the guy and he's a 512 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: bagman for the Nike A you right now. And but 513 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: it's it's not even the guys, it's the women's. Wait, 514 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: he's given money to women to go to college. They will, 515 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: he will go and uh, yeah, they they you know, 516 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: they're kind of hired guns. I guess they'll get these 517 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: really good players, you know, to go play a tournament 518 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: on this AU team if they're not with especially if 519 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: they're from like a smaller town. I mean they're paying 520 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: for even that. Yeah, Paully, Cody's got a lot of 521 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: points here because when we will used to go on 522 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: those Nissan tours for sports, Ill Shore would go down South. 523 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: We would hear the craziest stories. They would say, like, well, 524 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: you know these teams that are really good at it, 525 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: they don't get caught because they know how to do this, 526 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: they've been doing it for years. They find a booster 527 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: who can keep his mouth shut, who could funnel money 528 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: without getting caught. Like Cody's saying, they'll get your tahoe, 529 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: but they'll legally let you rent the tahoe or pay 530 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: for it, but they hand your bag of money to 531 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: pay for it. Everyone Cody, which the wildest story you 532 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: heard recruiting was the wildest story. I don't even know. Yeah. 533 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: I have a buddy who's a big booster and he 534 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: got upset with football and he's at a different school 535 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: than I went to, and he started going with basketball. 536 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: And he said, man, I thought football was bad. He 537 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: said basketball it's crazy. And I was like, what are 538 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: you talking about. He said, well, they don't talk about 539 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: the players. And how you know these four star five 540 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: stars what you hear a lot now? He said, you 541 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: know were in basketball. They'll refer to them is maybe 542 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: a five and seventy guy or three and a hundred. 543 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: And he said, well, the first number is how many 544 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: people are involved in the recruiting. You have a mother, 545 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: an AU coach, high school basketball coach, maybe you've got 546 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: a mother father. And so the first number is how 547 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: many people are taking a cut of the bag, and 548 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: then the second number is how much it's going to 549 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: cost where they're at right then, and you know, so it's, uh, 550 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: you got a guy it to five and a hundred. 551 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: It means that you've got five people with their hands 552 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: in the bag and it's gonna probably cost about one 553 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: hundred grand. And like what Paul he was saying, there 554 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: is a facilitator and the clean programs, the head man's 555 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: not going to be involved, but they know who is involved. 556 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: So you've got this you know, kind of circle of 557 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: boosters who are in contact and they get the money 558 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: together and you've got your facilitator and they facilitate all 559 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: this and then the money transfers hand and uh, and 560 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: then there's a lot of what happened with like I 561 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: think that Eric Dickerson story where you know he got 562 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 1: the again and then he didn't go to school there. So, uh, 563 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: you have a lot of that. Those guys milk it. 564 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: And you know, probably the saddest thing about it is 565 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: that a lot of times the kid doesn't see it. 566 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: It's that five people involved. Those five get it, and 567 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: the kid goes to school, and of course then he's 568 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: taken care of. But but those big numbers, a lot 569 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: of times the kids don't even see. We're talking to Cody, 570 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: the punter from Tennessee joining us here on the Dan 571 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: Patrick Show, Best Guest of the Week. Should I end 572 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: the call with war Eagle, no tide rocky time. We 573 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: can't get in that right, NC will be down. We're 574 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: getting close to okay, alrighty, Hey Cody, great to hear 575 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: from you. Thanks for calling the show Man, appreciate you. 576 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: All right, that's Cody in Tennessee. I could have listened 577 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: to him tuck all day. I know we should add 578 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: him to do the next segment I can listen to. 579 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: I was worried that the more Cody talked, the more 580 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: we were going to narrow down where Cody was punting 581 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: when he was in his college days. The three and 582 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: the three one hundred is pretty interesting. Three and one hundred, 583 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: three people hundred large to get somebody to go to 584 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: the school. Yes, poably, that's what I ever heard, was 585 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: we were down south and they would tell me how 586 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: they got players at a certain school and they said 587 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: an alum owned a riverboat casino, and they would go 588 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: and they would tell this player go to the riverboatboat 589 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: casino and go to that blackjack table, or go to 590 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: that table over there, and they would just tell him, 591 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: when you walk in, look for the dealer with the 592 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: hat on, walk in and put your money down the table. 593 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna win every hand, and they would He would 594 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 1: walk out with twenty thousand dollars in legal winnings at 595 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: a blackjack table. Now, I know you're not supposed to 596 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: do that if you're a college athlete, but no one's 597 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: gonna rat on you because it's well, it might have 598 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: been legal, but it was illegal. How he got his 599 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: legal cash. Yes, in the real world, Yeah, it was 600 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: legally illegal that I got twenty thousand dollars. I remember 601 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: because I was at Eastern Kentucky and of course we 602 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: weren't good enough to have anybody get paid. But Kentucky. 603 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: I was told that players would go to the race track, 604 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: and when they first got to Kentucky, maybe they were 605 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: being recruited, and you go to the racetrack and basically 606 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: somebody would say, you know what horse do you like 607 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: they would. They would bet for you and then you 608 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: would make money. A guy that I played against who 609 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: was from Dayton, came back with one of those four 610 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: fifty Mercedes, those uh the sels, those two seaters and convertible. 611 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: He came back one summer and we were like, whoa, 612 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: what's going on here? Where'd you get that? Take a 613 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: break here? More phone calls coming up here on Dan 614 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 615 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 616 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 617 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 618 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live every day at YouTube dot com. 619 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: Slash the Dan Patrick Show. Get some more phone calls here. 620 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: I figured that Marvin was going to get inundated with 621 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: people telling recruiting stories. Here it happens, but at the 622 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: good programs, it doesn't get out that it's happening. It 623 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: starts to leak out. At some of these other programs. 624 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: You usually have a system in place that this is 625 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: you know, time tested, that this is how it's done, 626 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: and that's how it's going to continue to get done. 627 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: It's just the shoe companies getting involved. That took the 628 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: boosters out of the equation in some of these situations. 629 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: The shoe company, they were bringing in some real money here, 630 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: and that's why it's all it's important to go back. 631 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: That's why coaches, to me should not have been paid 632 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: contracts with shoe companies because it just opened the door. 633 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: If you're going to have these camps where you know 634 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: the abc D camp that was a Nike camp that 635 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: I went to back in the eighties. You had all 636 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: of the big names there, Sonny McCarroll, the legendary shoe 637 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: guy who signed Michael Jordan to that Nike deal. You 638 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: had all these players there. Then they start wearing Nike, 639 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: and then if you're going to funnel them to a 640 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: Nike school, it just you're opening yourself up to the 641 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: possibility of kids getting paid to you go into these 642 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: schools and these coaches have these contracts with these shoe companies. Hey, 643 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: you gotta help me out here, because the shoe company 644 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: wants to get that player wearing their shoe at one 645 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: of their schools, and that coach who has a contract 646 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: with that shoe company wants you to help them get 647 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: some of these players. Yes, Todd. It's just a big mess. 648 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: Is it's not going to get better anytime soon. Mclough 649 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: and update the poor results which comes for back first 650 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: NBA or MLB. Now people are saying NBAI, MBA. Here 651 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: is the Commissioner Major League Baseball, Rob Manfred, and he 652 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: is guaranteeing we're having baseball this year. We're going to 653 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: play baseball in twenty twenty one percent. If it has 654 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: to be under the March twenty sixth agreement. If we 655 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: get to that point in the calendar, so be it. 656 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: But one way or the other, we're playing Major League Baseball, 657 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: all right. I know that back in March they said, 658 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, during this pandemic that you know things are 659 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: going to change. Here they have emergency powers. Commissioner has 660 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: emergency powers. But they didn't factor in that there wouldn't 661 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: be fans in the stands. We thought, maybe we don't 662 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: have one hundred and sixty two games. There's no language 663 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: in this agreement that they signed back in March. They 664 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: agreed to in March about no fans in the stands. 665 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can blur the lines. Now go, well, 666 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: but you know we're under the you should have been 667 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: on the impression we're not going to have fans in 668 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: the stands. I have to look at this from both sides, 669 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: and the players are thinking about now, the owners are 670 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: thinking about down the road, they're thinking long term, players 671 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: are thinking short term. How many players we get caught 672 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: up in Mike Troutnick's thirty six million should be happy 673 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: coming back to make seven? All right, it's not your 674 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: money that you're talking about. It's his and he earned 675 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: that money. Bryce Harper what he makes and now what 676 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: he would make if it's pro rated. If you look 677 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: at the number of players, it's probably sixty percent who 678 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: are making less a million dollars or less. So baseball 679 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,479 Speaker 1: has a lot of players who make money, good money, 680 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: but they have even more players who don't, who do 681 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: need to come back, who do need this paycheck here, 682 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: And we get caught up on the top tier, the 683 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: top part of baseball salary structure, and we're not being 684 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: fair to the everyday player who may only play for 685 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 1: three years or four years and it is a great living, 686 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 1: but we're going to cut that in half or third 687 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: and then they go back to work. That's where I 688 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: think we should have more focus on, not what Clayton 689 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: Kershaw is not going to make or Mike Trout or 690 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 1: Bryce Harp because they're going to make that up. They've 691 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: made a lot of money. It's the players who don't 692 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: make money. Yeah. Time Now, if the commissioner plays that 693 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: mandate card, what's that going to do to future negotiations. 694 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: I know we're living in the moment they're trying to 695 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: salvage a season now, but eventually they're going to have 696 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: to do another longer term agreement between the players and owners. 697 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: That's going to get infinitely more messy if he plays 698 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: that card and makes them play. I can't even get there, 699 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: Todd And because there's so much in front of me 700 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: now of what's this going to mean down the road, 701 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: because I don't even know if we get down the road. 702 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: And if we get down the road, what's it look like? 703 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: Is it smooth, paved, rocky muddy? I have no idea, 704 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: but this is what baseball. Baseball has put themselves in 705 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: this position, and if the commissioner says we're playing fifty games, 706 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: let's go, that's not going to bode well as we 707 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: get ready for another collective bargaining agreement. Just not going 708 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: to happen. By the way, baseball had its draft last night, 709 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 1: and I didn't watch any of it. I just wanted 710 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: to know if Spencer Torkelson was going to be drafted 711 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: number one by the Tigers. And I saw it on 712 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: the bottom line and I said, okay, I'm done. Spencer Torkelsen, 713 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: because you guys might not know this. Arizona State he 714 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 1: went to. Arizona State has had four players go number 715 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: one overall, Rick Monday that was the first ever draft 716 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty five, Floyd Banister, Bob Horner, and now 717 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: Spencer Torkelsen. By the way, Barry Bonds drafted sixth overall 718 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty five. But I was wondering number one 719 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: overall picks in a single sport. There are three schools 720 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: that are tied for the most number one overall picks, 721 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 1: and they are football programs, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, USC, Arizona State. 722 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: Because of the four number one picks in baseball, Auburn 723 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: is there with four, Duke with four, Georgia four, Stanford 724 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: with four. That feels like a stat of the day, 725 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: stat of the day, sat of the day. That last 726 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: stat of the day stat of the day here comes 727 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: that what stat of the day. And there's very little 728 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: interest in the baseball draft because I don't know what 729 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: the percentages are. Maybe stats in can help on those 730 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: drafted in the first round who will even make a 731 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: major league roster. And Spencer Torkelsen, is he going to 732 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: play next year? And if he does, okay, then there's 733 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of a carry over here, and you go, okay, 734 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how well that guy can play. 735 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: But most of these younger players going into the minor 736 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: leagues for a few years. Yeah, mclen he has a 737 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: lot of torque in this way. Thank you stealing Todd's line. 738 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: And that's embarrassing that you so am. I one more 739 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 1: hour to go, Dan and the Dan and Stan Patrick's Show.