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Speaker 1: Drive Time starts right now? Well, calm morning out there.

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Speaker 1: But where are all those people? Don't they know? We're

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Speaker 1: John it seems like every day I can remember turning

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Speaker 1: real question. Yeah. I took many selfie like that. Does

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Speaker 1: Max have them? No? Yeah, he doesn't need this of it.

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Speaker 1: That was just an Instagram scene that night. You leave

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Speaker 1: Birthdays over it is ready to work? Yeah, I'm ready

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Speaker 1: we go. Hi, welcome, Yes, Tuesday, I got the day right.

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Speaker 1: This week, let's address that John has a pop socket

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Speaker 1: this is like the most boring week of the off season.

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Speaker 1: entertain us. Uh next week, everything seems to pop state

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Speaker 1: next week exactly, and then the week after his draft time.

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Speaker 1: So away we go. But this week we're still postulating.

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Speaker 1: Are you tired of that? Do you know? Postulating? Why

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Speaker 1: And that's how we're gonna start big things here. Bryan

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Speaker 1: So why don't you lead us off their birthday girl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have the need versus the values of positions that

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Speaker 1: they'd have done something by now, because you would get

429
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Speaker 1: a veteran in here before April fifteen. If if if

430
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Speaker 1: you're planning to do it, so, does that mean they're

431
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Speaker 1: going to try to draft and develop. My theory is

432
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: they won't because if you're going to take one of

433
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: those Dave one two picks, I think you would take

434
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Speaker 1: a guy that you believe is special and a starter,

435
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: which means you're doing at number seven. Otherwise you're trying

436
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: to win now and you need your guys to play

437
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: right away. Uh. The knock on career is that there's

438
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: nothing that absolutely stands out and wows you. There's no

439
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: unbelievable arm talent like the guys in the first round. Dude,

440
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: that's why he's not listed in the first round. If

441
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Speaker 1: they're gonna take a quarterback here, then I agree. I

442
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: think it'd be greer. Okay. Um. I don't see the

443
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: quarterback either, although I am the best player available and

444
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: quarterback is the most important position of the field. So

445
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: if he's got the high is great on the board,

446
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:07,239
Speaker 1: then take it, because you never ever pass on the

447
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: top player on your board. The only reason I wonder

448
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: about it is he would have to come in and

449
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: be your backup, I would think, or or you're keeping

450
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 1: three and uh one snap away rookie quarterback. It scares

451
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: you because then all of a sudden, you're not really

452
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: backing your your quarterback up is something you believe is

453
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Speaker 1: gonna win now. So it's a weird spot there. And

454
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: and and I'll admit to not being able to quite

455
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: figure out what I think their strategy is there. Well,

456
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: I don't hold a lot of confidence in Cody custom

457
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: last and what we saw last year. So if this

458
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: kid has a high grade on the board, I don't know.

459
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if you lose your starting quarterback in this

460
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: game most of the time, you're in trouble. Anyway, if

461
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: you think this is a guy who couldn't develop, then

462
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with him doing that, although

463
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: I don't see it likely. Um. I think what's likely

464
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Speaker 1: is the Jaguars go tight end in the second round.

465
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Speaker 1: And we just talked about fant and Smith iming and

466
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Speaker 1: catching Hawkinson. In terms of where they might go, I

467
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: I think the stern Burger kid from Texas A and M,

468
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: who was an interesting kid. He started at Kansas, then

469
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: transferred to A and M. So he sat out in

470
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, played in two thousand and eighteen and

471
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: put up good numbers. Was an All American. Uh, great

472
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: catch radius right, got long arms and big hands, makes

473
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: plays in traffic. Is an explosive athlete. Now he doesn't

474
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: block at all, so he doesn't give you that if

475
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: if that's what you have to have that is not

476
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: his game. But he only played one year at Texas

477
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: A and M that's it, didn't really play Kansas and

478
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: obviously had the sit. So he's got lots of upside

479
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: in terms of his ability to develop as a player.

480
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: Got a pretty good frame on him. But the thing

481
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Speaker 1: I like about him is he's a get down the seam,

482
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Speaker 1: make a tight catch in traffic, and turn up the

483
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Speaker 1: field and make a play. He's got explosiveness to him. Um.

484
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Speaker 1: I like him, and I think he's a second round

485
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: pick right now. Based on the way that the tight

486
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: end position is getting momentum up the board, hump, I

487
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: would not be surprised to see him go this ro oute. Um.

488
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Speaker 1: The only X factor would be if there is a

489
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Speaker 1: push on tight ends like you're talking about in the

490
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Speaker 1: first round. It's conceivable that the ones they like at

491
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 1: that second round position, it could be gone in the

492
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: first round, and then the strategy then might make sense

493
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: to wait until the third round because there's so many

494
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: available if they go second round. This kid makes a

495
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: lot of sense. This is a kid who's climbing and you, sir,

496
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: oh uh I went Jalen ferguson the edge rusher from

497
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 1: Louisiana tech uh. And the reason for that isn't so

498
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: much Hymn specifically, it was to discuss the concept of

499
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: if they don't go edge rusher with that plethora of

500
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: edge rushers who available on the top ten, all of

501
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: a sudden you're in a weird spot because much like

502
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: offensive line teams generally, it's a little scary to draft

503
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: edge rusher late in the first round earlier in the

504
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Speaker 1: second because conventional wisdom is those guys are so important,

505
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: so special that if there, if they're capable of being

506
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: big time in the NFL, then they're probably going in

507
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: the top twenty unless you find a unique in Goguay

508
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: who slides so but it gets so rare, so like

509
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: quarterback with that, it gets so rare, it's really rolling

510
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: the dice after that spot. So there are teams that

511
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: shy away from you know, second round scares him because

512
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Speaker 1: their thought is if I'm taking in the second round,

513
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: why am I not taking them in the first. But

514
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: it makes sense because this kid has a first round

515
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: grade for a lot of people, had had a little

516
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: off field stuff that kept him out of the combine.

517
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: So he's a guy. If you're going edge rusher, it

518
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: would make sense around that. That'll do it for the

519
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552
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Speaker 1: from Orange Park, Florida. I think I still think losing

553
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: to Shaun Gibson is going to bite us. What you

554
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: think about Jared Wilson's abilities as a replacement? Also seriously

555
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 1: lacking depth of that position, aren't we Well, it's uh,

556
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: it's an X factor every season you have to go

557
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: in with a few that you don't know, and you

558
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: frankly don't know how Jared Wilson will play over a

559
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: sixteen game season this spot. I think he will be

560
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: the starter alongside Ronnie Harrison. I don't think it'll be

561
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: as distinct a free strong situation as it's been in

562
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: the past. UM, meaning all the times safeties sort of

563
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: played different versions of that role. It's more of a hybrid. See.

564
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: I see those guys being more of that than the

565
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: true strong free the buried Church into Sean Gibson or um.

566
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: I think they are then. Uh, I don't agree with

567
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: some of these draftniks who are saying it's their second

568
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: biggest position to need. UM. I think they'll take it

569
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: fourth through seventh round somewhere to give them depth there.

570
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: But I don't see them going that way in the

571
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: first round. And you know, Uh, to John, I think

572
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: losing him on some level will hurt. But out of

573
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 1: all the guys you had a chance to lose, they

574
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: had to make a calculated risk and say we're gonna

575
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: lose this position, or you feel like there are corners

576
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: around them to cover it up, and we have Ronnie Harry.

577
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: You can't have depth at every position, especially when you

578
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: have superstars that eat up your cap all over your

579
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: defensive roster. You're going to give something up. It had

580
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: in a seven point four five million dollar cap hit

581
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: for a free safety who is good and fit your defense,

582
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: but not elite. It was time to move on. Uh.

583
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: He was an undrafted rookie free agent, by the way,

584
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: and so is Wilson. Wilson is taller, he is bigger,

585
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: he is longer. What we don't know whether he has

586
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: Art Shawn's instincts. Gibson had exceptionally good instincts in the

587
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: passing game. He showed us that when we went to

588
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl with Cleveland and we saw it here.

589
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: Now he had some breakdowns at times as well. Those

590
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: were more physical than instinctual. We have to find out

591
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: and they're trusting that Wilson has shown them enough on

592
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: the practice field, not on the game field, on the

593
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: practice field that he has instincts to play that position.

594
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: If you're going to be a sustainable winning team in

595
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: this league, sometimes you have to trust what you've targeted

596
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: and are developing DJ Chark a little bit of a

597
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: different story, but similar in a sense. You have to

598
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: trust what you've seen in practice, what you've scattered, what

599
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: you believe, and trust that you're going to see it

600
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: on the field when observers haven't had a chance to

601
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: see it yet. I think Wilson and Chark are similar

602
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: in that sense. I saw some flashes from Wilson last

603
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: year in the preseason and particularly that made me think, oh,

604
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: he's got a roster spot, there's enough there, and on

605
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: special teams, and late in the year when he was

606
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: in the game, saw some stuff you can't pay high

607
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: dollar high draft for a positions. You were confident he

608
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: was at least going to make the team. Last priests,

609
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: I remember us talking about that. All right, let's go

610
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: Bruce from Georgia. Please stop the band aid approach, think

611
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: long term and draft Haskins. There's gonna be fIF the people,

612
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: the readers who want this. UM. I wouldn't mind it.

613
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it will happen. But I think the

614
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: flaw in the thinking here for some people is there's

615
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: still sort of a thing out there that they see

616
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: folds as a band aid approach, as a one or

617
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: two year guy, And I don't know if he has

618
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: or not, but I think what people need to understand

619
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: is that's not how they think it. If he was

620
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: thirty five, you'd see it as a band aid. He's thirty,

621
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: and look at how many quarterbacks play well into they're

622
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: late thirties. Now they have to trust that they're right

623
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: about him. But when they and again, it doesn't mean

624
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: they're right. When you're trying to explain to people why

625
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: they make moves they make, they're thinking, is not that

626
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: we're bringing him in as a one or two year

627
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: a gay. So that's why, as much as I wouldn't

628
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: mind them doing Haskins, I don't think they'll go that

629
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: route because they don't see Folds as a short term

630
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: stop gast talking to people over there, they don't the

631
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: four year deal he's going to play into that, you know,

632
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: barring injury or barring a total collapse, which no one anticipates.

633
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: But they have a long term view with him. It's

634
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: not just when they went to the card of playing

635
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: with the Folds, a lot of people looked at it, well,

636
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: they're trying to win now, Well, of course they're trying

637
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: to win. Now, that's what he does. That's what Tom

638
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: and and that's why you keep clayss right. But they

639
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: see him as transforming this team from the defensive running

640
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: team to eventually passing team that is the staple of

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Speaker 1: the modern NFL. They think he's that guy. That's why

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Speaker 1: they give him the big contract in the big books.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap it up with Limo Bob from

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Speaker 1: Neptune Beach, Florida. With all these free agent signings, do

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Speaker 1: you believe we are positioned to move up in the draft?

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Speaker 1: Limo Bob really does drive by the good guy? Um? Yeah, there,

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Speaker 1: they are in better position straight up in the draft

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Speaker 1: because they're creating signs. But I don't think that that's

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Speaker 1: why they're doing it the free agent signings. As we

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Speaker 1: discussed on this show before their approaches, we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: free agency and make sure we fill up our depth chart.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure we would look on on our

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Speaker 1: white board we have enough tight ends to line up

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Speaker 1: and would feel okay there, we have enough right tackles

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Speaker 1: line up, We feel okay there. So they want to

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Speaker 1: go into the draft like that so that they're not

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Speaker 1: sitting there when the board starts counting down over here going,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this right tackles gone, this right tackles gone,

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Speaker 1: and now there's five right tackles gone, and we have

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Speaker 1: to take a guy who stinks here because we've got

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Speaker 1: a slot up there that we're worried about. So they

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Speaker 1: want to be able to draft as much as possible

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Speaker 1: without regard to need. But certainly being in that situation

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's specific. We have to do this

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Speaker 1: so that we can trade. What are the Jets pay

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Speaker 1: I think it was three second round pass. There's no

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Speaker 1: way the Jaguars are going up, No way. They need

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Speaker 1: They need a running back. You're not going to trade

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Speaker 1: away exactly. You're not going to trade away what what

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Speaker 1: don't think they will. Yeah, I mean to be literal

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Speaker 1: you're going to a kid's EF. You say so, I

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Speaker 1: care what what's best for you. They're looking at you like, no,

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Speaker 1: you don't heard what you said about Haardson because he's like,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna call the name. Well, Alabama had one player

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Speaker 1: going to third round last year. Guess who it was,

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Speaker 1: Jenny and gonna be this young man they went to

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Speaker 1: the jag Oh the drama. Big news around the league

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Speaker 1: yesterday was Nick Saban and Ronnie Harrison For context and

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Speaker 1: we'll get your opinion after the tweets. Nick Saban was

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Speaker 1: on a telephone call and said, if Ronnie Harrison would

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Speaker 1: have come back for a senior year, he could have

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Speaker 1: been a first round talent and cost himself millions of

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Speaker 1: dollars by not doing so. Ronnie Harrison tweets back this week,

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Speaker 1: tweet that's going to be in our top tweets, number

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Speaker 1: one tweets to tweets tweets top tweets. Coaches get so

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Speaker 1: but hurt nowadays about a kid making a decision to

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Speaker 1: live out his dreams and go pro makes me think,

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Speaker 1: do you really care about the success of the kid

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Speaker 1: or how well your program performs? Tweeting that back at

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban, who says that Ronnie should have come back

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Speaker 1: for his senior season because he cost himself millions of

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Speaker 1: dollars doing so well. The best part of the tweets

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Speaker 1: keep your name out to your mouth or hashtag keep

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Speaker 1: my name at your math. I like, well, and here's

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Speaker 1: what my guess is having. I don't know Nick Saban,

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Speaker 1: but my guesses he was trying to make a point,

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Speaker 1: and his point probably got away from him a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and he used Ronnie Harrison as an example. I doubt

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Speaker 1: he was trying to criticize Ronnie. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: know why he would, so I would give Nick the

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Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt in that sense. He was probably

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Speaker 1: trying to make a point that I can't imagine him

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Speaker 1: really trying to be critical Ronnie Harrison. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why he would. I don't know the relationship, but I

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Speaker 1: can certainly see why Ronnie in this day and age,

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Speaker 1: when things sort of get going, would have taken that

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Speaker 1: as he does. And you know, if if a kid

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Speaker 1: So in that sense, uh, I kind of ran the

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Speaker 1: numbers in this a little bit. Yesterday. He wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: if he had been like a late first round pick,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have made nearly as much more as Saban's

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Speaker 1: quote kind of indicated, but it's uh, again, come out

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Speaker 1: when you want to come out, because you're losing money

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Speaker 1: every year that you don't. So there's so many different

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Speaker 1: angles to both men are looking out for their boat,

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Speaker 1: for their their enlightened self interest, right, Um Saban is

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Speaker 1: put that tweet back up, would you? Max? Um Saban

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Speaker 1: is of course looking out for his program first and foremost, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're coaching team, you're not looking out

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Speaker 1: for the individual more than you're looking out for the program.

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Speaker 1: So he's looking out for his own enlightened self interest,

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Speaker 1: and obviously Ronnie Harrison is as well. They're looking out

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Speaker 1: to make the best move for themselves, which is it's

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Speaker 1: just the nature of football. Now here's my band on this.

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Speaker 1: You've got a coach who's making NFL head coaching money,

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Speaker 1: coaching players, some of whom could could be making NFL money.

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Speaker 1: Who are you to tell them? No, you got yours? Right?

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Speaker 1: If I'm a player and I see the coach making money,

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Speaker 1: and the coordinators in college football make a ton of money,

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Speaker 1: now heck, the staff makes what NFL coaches make. But

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Speaker 1: I can't touch that because I'm supposed to be here

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Speaker 1: playing for you so that you win more championships. If

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Speaker 1: in my comment at the top was I can't believe

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Speaker 1: that Nick was really trying to go after if if

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Speaker 1: he was, it was dead wrong. It opens a can

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Speaker 1: of worms, John, because we saw a couple of years

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Speaker 1: ago when the Northwestern players tried to unionize. Right, you

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Speaker 1: have all these players who are putting their bodies at

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Speaker 1: risk every week for coaches who are already paid. That's

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Speaker 1: what I don't like about college football is is that

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Speaker 1: now you tell these kids they have to stay for

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Speaker 1: three years or four years. My senses, if you can go.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting, there's an article this morning and it's

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Speaker 1: not coincidenced by the way it was written yesterday. You know,

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Speaker 1: on the Sports Illustrated side, kylin Ka here wrote one

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Speaker 1: where she talked to NFL personnel people about who could

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Speaker 1: have come out after one year. Right, give me some

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Speaker 1: players who pastor present, who could play in the NFL

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Speaker 1: as teenagers. There aren't many. Very Adrian Peterson comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: Most kids won't come out after one year because they can't.

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Speaker 1: But everyone should be able to leave when they're ready

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Speaker 1: to leave. Everybody absolutely should have the right. But in

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Speaker 1: no way should they be paid to play college football.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not and I'm not advocating that. What I'm

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Speaker 1: indicating is is kids, when kids have the right, when

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Speaker 1: kids have the chance to go, when they're told by

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Speaker 1: whatever committee, kind of like the NBA works. When they're

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Speaker 1: told by whatever committee, Yep, you're gonna come in, You're

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Speaker 1: gonna be a seventh round pick. They should be able

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Speaker 1: to make their mind up after the freshman year, of

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Speaker 1: the sophomore year, the junior year, whatever. Eliminate this. Coaches

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Speaker 1: don't want that and a third round pick in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: unlike the NBA where there is no third round. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: a third round safety is going to get every ample

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Speaker 1: tune to make the roster. He's probably gonna be a

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Speaker 1: starter by coming out early. Remember, he gets a year

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Speaker 1: closer early to the second contract, and also gets a

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Speaker 1: year more to play in the league, which in a

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Speaker 1: short career, if he plays eight years rather than seven

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Speaker 1: at the end of his career, could be a couple

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Speaker 1: million dollar. And let's not forget just because you stay

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Speaker 1: an extra year or two doesn't mean you're going to

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Speaker 1: go from being a third round pick to the first round.

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Speaker 1: Right guarantees, no guarantees at all. Some guy can hurt, right,

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Speaker 1: or some guys just are a third round talents. That's

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Speaker 1: as good as they are, right, Some aren't. Some are

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Speaker 1: well get it is. Look at marsh and l Adam

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Speaker 1: Are the kid from South Carolina came back, would have

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Speaker 1: been a millionaire, came back. It was never the same

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Speaker 1: when he got running back. Absolutely, that's always the risk.

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Speaker 1: So if they want to come out, they should be

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Speaker 1: allowed to come. And then you know, just to be

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Speaker 1: fair that the converse is Josh Allen, the pass rusher

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Speaker 1: from Kentucky who stayed an extra year. He probably would

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Speaker 1: have been a third round pick. And if he does

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Speaker 1: come out, that's where he goes. But he stays and

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Speaker 1: he makes more money. So you can point out both.

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Speaker 1: All I'm advocating for is if I'm a freshman and

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Speaker 1: I'm Adrian Peterson and or Moris Clarett thought he was

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Speaker 1: the guy, and I can come out, let me test

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Speaker 1: the waters, figure out a way to let me test

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Speaker 1: the waters. A opening his mouth like that when he's

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Speaker 1: already getting paid, it's not going to get any sympathy.

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Speaker 1: It's just not going to happen. Another proponent to that

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Speaker 1: that John mentioned is the risk of injury. Lane Kiffin,

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Speaker 1: who used to be at Alabama, pointed this out. If

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Speaker 1: sixty juniors got second and third round grades, how would

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Speaker 1: they all go in the top fifteen if they come back,

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Speaker 1: some come back and going worse rounds than what their

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Speaker 1: junior grades were. Love when kids live and fulfill their dreams.

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Speaker 1: What do you say if they get hurt and loose?

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Speaker 1: Hashtag Mark Matt Matt Barkley, who's a huge example of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: point I R guaranteed. Yeah. So let's wrap up top

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Speaker 1: tweets with more drama. What's going on with this league

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00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: right now? With Antonio bount and Juju Smith Schuster I

853
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: don't care Field sweeps this out, which was a Instagram

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00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: message that Juju since Antonio Brown his junior, basically asking

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00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: him for advice about how well he performs in the league.

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00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown tweets this out as some type of insults,

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00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: but it makes Juju Smiths shoes to look even better.

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Speaker 1: So I'm a little confused what the motive was there.

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Speaker 1: If I was, the Raiders would be really worried right now,

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00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: because what Brown should be happy He's left Pittsburgh he's

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00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: here with us. We have paid him, we have given

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Speaker 1: him the adelation that he needed, the adulation that he

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Speaker 1: you know, we love him, and he is still focused

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Speaker 1: on the past when I need him focused on the present. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd be worried about that I had paid a guy

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Speaker 1: who was not going to be with me. I always

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00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: try to step back, and you know, I'm a firm

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Speaker 1: believer that you don't really know what's going on in

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00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: somebody's head, so you can't really know their motivation. I

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00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: don't know what you guys are thinking other than you

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00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: want to get me off the air. But um, certainly,

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00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: if Brown's true nature is what he is showing in

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00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: recent weeks on Instagram, which or social wherever, which is

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00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: constantly worried about his other team, then I'd be worried too.

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00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: Maybe that's all in act, Maybe all that goes away

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00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: when training camp starts and he'll be fantastic, focused, whatever.

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Speaker 1: But I'm with you, it's uh, it's a bizarre way

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00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: to behave when you've gotten what you want. Our mutual

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00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: friend Vic Catchman used to talk about free agents who

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00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: left Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh was a place where players were treated very,

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Speaker 1: very well, um the championship. Pedigrees there being a Steeler

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00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: meant something. And he always used to point out that

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00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: guys who leave in free agency, they always kind of

884
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: want to be back there. They didn't want to leave

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00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: because very few places are like Pittsburgh. And I can't

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00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: help but read about Brown and think all he wants

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Speaker 1: to do is be back in Pittsburgh. And he's piste

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00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: off because he had to leave. I never wanted to leave,

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Speaker 1: never want to leave in the first place. It's a

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00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: little bit of a different situation. Levy on Bell's situation

891
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: was a little different because he was a running back

892
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: and there's a weird pay versus value age equation going

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00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: on the running backs right now that I can kind

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00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: of separate that a little bit. Uh, Antonio Brown could

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Speaker 1: have and should have been a legend for life in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: and Uh, it's it's just a very very strange story.

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00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: And my guess is, knowing a little bit about the

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00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: Steelers organization, as good as he was, they're doing cartwheels

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Speaker 1: that he there anymore, and they can't wait for him

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00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: to just stop talking about that. Stay tuned on the

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00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: Bell thing. I bet there's a point this year of

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00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: the Jets, even though they were in New York, have

903
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: always been known as sort of the circus like atmosphere

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Speaker 1: of a franchise. Don't be surprised if he does it.

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Speaker 1: Long for the stability of the Steeler, Yeah, I don't

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00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: know at all. I don't know. I haven't studied it enough.

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00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying the running back is a little

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00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: bit of a different dynamic right now because they pay issue,

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00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: but wide receiver has got nothing to do with that.

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Speaker 1: Strange if I was if I was Mark Davis right now,

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, what did we just do? Yeah? All right,

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Speaker 1: that'll loude for our show. Thanks John, You're right, he'll

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Speaker 1: be at his desk, Holliday, I got a full day

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Speaker 1: ahead of me, but for Joe and Max, that'll do

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Speaker 1: it for this screw. See you next week on Jags

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Speaker 1: Drive Time.