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While Viacom projecting poor results for 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: its quarter ending this month, but the company shares well, 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: they seem to be following the potential moves of the 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: chief executive, Philippe Dowmon. Is he closer to an exit? Well, 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: let's find out more from Porter Bib. He is managing 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Partner Media Tech Capital Partners. You can be followed on 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: Twitter at Porter three. Al Right, Porter Bib, give us 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: your estimate of Philippe Dowmon. Will he be the chief 29 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: executive of Viacom come Labor Day? Absolutely not. He's on 30 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: the down escalator right now and they're holding the exit 31 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: doors wide open for him. He's his only hope right now, Frankly, 32 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: is the delays that the three or four legal actions 33 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: that are pending right now might take over the course 34 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: of a slow summer. But he's definitely out of the picture. Well, 35 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: why why did he do this? I mean, why did 36 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: why did uh revsone decided this was time for him 37 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: to go? Well, I'm not sure it was entirely Sumner's decision. 38 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: I think Sherry Redstone, who has made a rapprochement with 39 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: her father after many, many years of estrangement, she has 40 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: a very clear picture of the fact that over the 41 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: last five years Phil Dolman has lost almost half of 42 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: the share value, the market value of Vehicom, and he's 43 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: shown absolutely no inclination of being able to reverse that trend. Porter, 44 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: what if you could tell us about the actual businesses 45 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: and whether they will be combined if indeed Mr donmin 46 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: leaves Viacom. Well, there there's a lot of talk right 47 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: now on the street about putting CBS and Viacom together 48 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: when they were split. Um, when half a dozen years 49 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: ago Redstone thought he could take one and one and 50 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: create four or five out of separate entities. That hasn't happened. 51 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: One and one now equal about one and a half um, 52 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: not two and less. Moonviz is uh the real star 53 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: of this sort of tale because he's done miracles with 54 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: CBS with without any real global franchise, without a whole 55 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: lot of content creativity beyond the basic CBS network. UH, 56 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: and he's shown a very daring and leadership position in 57 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: terms of network chief executives in going over the top 58 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: before and separately from his competition. So you just said 59 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: that you didn't think that Sherry Redstone wants to run 60 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: the company. You have that, Well, that's that's her declared position. 61 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: She She has met frequently with Domin and with with 62 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: Moonves and is pretty articulate about the fact that she's 63 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: trying to preserve the value of the Redstone trust and 64 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: maximize the value that Domin is seeing dissipate every day 65 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: in Vehicom. So if that's the case, and with the 66 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: potential alst of these five Viacom directors, what do you 67 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: think is motivating Sherry Redstone value? She she wants to 68 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: get the best value she can for Vehcom. I don't 69 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: think she ever intends and never has intended to uh 70 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: get involved in direct management. She's vice chairman right now 71 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: of both companies and she's going to uh do whatever 72 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: she can to maximize the value of Vehicom. CBS is 73 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: probably fully valued right now with not a lot of 74 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: growth opportunity. The word on the street is that these 75 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: companies have to come back together. Um Les Mondos is 76 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: not particularly enamored at that idea, but I think that 77 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: it's very likely that there once the Dolman situation is 78 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: resolved and the new board that Redstone has nominated, UM, well, 79 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: it takes place, and that that's sometime late summer. Uh. 80 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 1: He's done a very judicious and and appropriate job of 81 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: getting approval of the Delaware Chancery Court, and that that 82 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: might take six or eight weeks. But once the new boy, 83 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: which is a highly competent independent board is in place, 84 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: Dolman's gone. The old board, which is heavily uh leaning 85 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: towards Mr Dolman, will also vacate. Then there will be 86 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: a move to put the companies together, and that will 87 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: probably trigger uh the interest of some white knight acquirers, 88 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: of which there is no limit. Well, there is this 89 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: the time to buy Vehicom. I think you're already seeing 90 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: the stock going went up a little bit better than 91 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: one percent today just on on the news of of uh, 92 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: the the change of board members at Redstone and announced yesterday. 93 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: I think it's you have to realize that this is 94 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: a content company. Vehicom has a terrific underperforming cable networks MTV, Nickelodeon, 95 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: b ET, Comedy Central. They are certainly terrific brands that 96 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: have seen better days, but they still have a great 97 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: value in terms of the archival content and the potential 98 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: under new management to become very, very prominent over the 99 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: top um distribution channels. Again, they also have Paramount Pictures, 100 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: which Dolman has tried to find a minority investor in 101 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: and somebody is going to see that is not only 102 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: a huge library of great product, but a potential global 103 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: motion picture company. Porter big thank you so much for 104 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: joining us managing partner Media Tech Capital Partners. Thank you 105 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: for joining us on taking stock right here on Bloomberg Radio. 106 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: Coming up on Bloomberg Law, a new hedge fund insider 107 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: trading case that is revealing the flow of information between 108 00:07:53,680 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: Wall Street and Washington d C. That's next,