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Speaker 2: works for NFL Network. He'll recap what we saw last night,
Speaker 2: how dangerous are the Minnesota Vikings, and what would he
Speaker 2: do with Sam Darnold moving forward with that contract.
Speaker 3: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: We had it in hour one. We're going to keep
Speaker 2: it for hour two. Todd, give the wording on that.
Speaker 4: Which NFL franchise feels like it is in the worst shape. Giants, Browns, Raiders, Bears, Panthers, Jags, Titans, or.
Speaker 5: If you're so inclined to other and we have some
Speaker 5: early results that.
Speaker 3: You're interested, Okay, I am interested the Giants. How about
Speaker 3: we guess?
Speaker 5: Okay, Marvin's are not the first place, Marvin. Maybe they
Speaker 5: are the Titans.
Speaker 3: Okay, Paul, after last night the Bears, I'm gonna say
Speaker 3: the Giants.
Speaker 4: We've got twenty seven and a half percent. Say Giants,
Speaker 4: twenty four percent, Browns, followed by Raiders, Bears, Panthers.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Bears are in a bad situation.
Speaker 2: I think they've had a bad situation with the head coach.
Speaker 2: You've gotta have stability. If you have a rookie quarterback,
Speaker 2: you've got to have the same coach, offensive coordinator, head coach,
Speaker 2: and maybe you get that, you know, stability. This is
Speaker 2: a franchise that passed on Tom Brady late in Tom's career,
Speaker 2: and they passed on Jim Harbaugh. They don't make good
Speaker 2: decisions normally, and now you have the future of Caleb
Speaker 2: Williams at your fingertips. You got to make sure you
Speaker 2: make the right decision here. They passed on Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2: Are they getting Ben Johnson from the Lions? And is
Speaker 2: that enough to change the culture of the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to Mojo and Greg Olsen NFL and Fox
Speaker 2: will stop by as well. Vikings handle the Bears. Bears
Speaker 2: have lost eight in a row, thirty to twelve. The
Speaker 2: final Vikings now twelve and two. Bears dropped to four
Speaker 2: and ten. Falcons beat the Raiders. Falcons are seven and seven.
Speaker 2: That didn't feel like a win. And once again with
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, he is not done well. He's got one
Speaker 2: touchdown pass nine picks in the last five games. The
Speaker 2: Raiders dropped to two and twelve. See, I thought that
Speaker 2: was going to be a game the Raiders would win
Speaker 2: and then screw things up. Because if you're the Raiders,
Speaker 2: if you're Mark Davis, the owner, you want to make
Speaker 2: sure that you get the number one pick in the draft,
Speaker 2: worst case scenario, maybe the second.
Speaker 3: Pick, and there you got to get a quarterback.
Speaker 2: You can get shudor Sanders or cam Ward if they
Speaker 2: graded out and they you know, it feels like that's
Speaker 2: who you want, or you get Travis Hunter. But I
Speaker 2: look at the Raiders and Max Crosby will be back.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Antonio Pierce will be back. It
Speaker 2: feels like I have no information on this, but getting
Speaker 2: that number one pick maybe attracts more attention with coaching
Speaker 2: candidates there, did you leave your microphone on Marvin? I?
Speaker 5: Sure did.
Speaker 6: Preach.
Speaker 2: I like that, go all your bad self, like when
Speaker 2: you're in a movie theater and there's something that's getting
Speaker 2: ready bad gonna happen, and then you start to say something.
Speaker 7: It definitely felt very churchy. Oh okay from my part
Speaker 7: growing up in the church preaching. Sorry did you sing
Speaker 7: in the church choir?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: And the children's choir, oh you did? Yeah, my Zion
Speaker 7: Baptist Church children's choir. Okay, from about eight to eleven. Okay,
Speaker 7: that's how long church service.
Speaker 3: Was, from eight in the morning until eleven. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, I needed a pitch clock in church, you know.
Speaker 2: I needed them to speed it up a little bit there,
Speaker 2: because it used to be like an hour when you
Speaker 2: go for a Catholic Mass, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's like, uh, we we cut short some things here,
Speaker 2: speed up some things here. You want to get more
Speaker 2: people to go to church, make it thirty five minutes?
Speaker 2: And why why was my family always late to church?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 2: You know, granted my mom had to get six kids together,
Speaker 2: throw all of us in a station wagon, but even
Speaker 2: now when my wife goes to church, we're late because
Speaker 2: you go you wait till the last minute to get
Speaker 2: out there the door when it goes to church, at
Speaker 2: least in my family, it's like, let me see, it's
Speaker 2: gonna take seven minutes to get there. Let's leave and
Speaker 2: uh six and a half minutes. Nick can't find parking.
Speaker 2: Then you walk in because my wife's always.
Speaker 3: Like, oh god, I walk in late.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: Then you got a walk and there's bad seats.
Speaker 2: And it's like, it's okay, all right, I'd rather sit
Speaker 2: in the choir all the way up where the organ is.
Speaker 8: Yes, Paul, and the families that walk in late, the
Speaker 8: door creaks open and breaks the silence, and everyone does
Speaker 8: the judgmental turnback look to the late family. It's not
Speaker 8: that important to that, but not that important. And then
Speaker 8: you have to like, like you're breaking into a building,
Speaker 8: you tiptoe to your seat, excuse.
Speaker 3: Or you leave right after communion?
Speaker 6: Oo.
Speaker 2: That was That was a great move by me, although
Speaker 2: I have to admit, well, I did admit finally too
Speaker 2: my you know what I didn't admit my my brothers
Speaker 2: and sisters they ratted me out. I used to drop
Speaker 2: them off for church, and I would carry a pair
Speaker 2: of con and put them in the trunk so I'd
Speaker 2: drop them off and I would have my younger brother,
Speaker 2: my two younger sisters, and I'd drop them off and
Speaker 2: I'd say, hey, get me, you know a leaflet, give
Speaker 2: me the the pamphlin.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'd go shoot basketball.
Speaker 2: And then I'd so I'd get my put my cons on,
Speaker 2: and then I would go shoot, and then I'd come
Speaker 2: back and pick them up, and then we go home.
Speaker 2: And you know, I had proof. And then they finally
Speaker 2: ratted me out. They said, you know, Dan doesn't go
Speaker 2: to church. And my mom was like, Danny, I go,
Speaker 2: what Dave says that you don't go to church. I go,
Speaker 2: I go to church. I don't go into church. Although
Speaker 2: there was a two year window, I pulled off one
Speaker 2: of the great ones. I said to my mom Notre
Speaker 2: Dame football re air Sunday morning, Lindsey Nelson and Paul Horning.
Speaker 2: You got to watch a truncated you know, they would
Speaker 2: cut down the Notre Dame game.
Speaker 3: And I said to my mom, I said, Mom, it's
Speaker 3: kind of like church. It's Notre Dame football. And my
Speaker 3: mom let me get away with that for two years, and.
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, my brother and then my
Speaker 2: sisters and then everybody became a Notre Dame fan, and
Speaker 2: then that ruined it. So then I had to go
Speaker 2: back going to church. I had to go to church
Speaker 2: every single morning when I was growing up. Every day
Speaker 2: it's Saturday, get dressed up, going there, little guy sit there.
Speaker 2: I had no idea what was going on. I just
Speaker 2: knew that I was already in trouble. I already had
Speaker 2: a sin, and the original sin. And I said to
Speaker 2: my mom what did I do? And she said, you
Speaker 2: didn't do anything. I said, I got a sin. I
Speaker 2: can't even get rid of it. I can't even go
Speaker 2: to confession. And then she goes, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: It's a really minor sin. I said, I didn't do anything,
Speaker 2: and she said, you'll get a chance to get rid
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 4: Yes, Tom, how long did you get away with playing basketball?
Speaker 4: And what made them finally decide this is bull? I'm
Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna rat Dan out. There's no way he
Speaker 4: can get away with this.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know why they turned on me, but you know,
Speaker 2: snitches get stitches, and you know, I take matters into
Speaker 2: my own hands.
Speaker 3: With my younger brother. He said, you do it again. No,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: It's you know siblings, they're gonna turn on you can't
Speaker 2: trust him even now, turn on me now? Yes, I
Speaker 2: think the eighth commandment is thou shalt not nark? Isn't
Speaker 2: it checking my notes? I was an altar boy.
Speaker 3: I think it's thou shalt not shoot hoops?
Speaker 2: Because my mom goes, don't you want to be closer
Speaker 2: to God and be an altar boy? And I go, no, No, Mom,
Speaker 2: I gotta make jumpers like I'm gonna I'm gonna make
Speaker 2: it rain.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna buy you a house, all right. Maybe I'll
Speaker 3: get you a dishwasher, yes.
Speaker 7: Martin, Yeah, be in all states way more more.
Speaker 2: I think Pete Merrivis said that if you if you
Speaker 2: said heaven or being all state All state, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, careful, third team all state. Yeah, wait, he's
Speaker 3: got to be first team. No, I wasn't first team.
Speaker 3: That's third team. That's all right, I'll take it. I'll
Speaker 3: take it.
Speaker 2: Maybe a shooting contest with me and steven A. Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe set that up there, Fritzie, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Good, look into that. That sounds fun.
Speaker 2: I might worry about Van Peasey more than I would
Speaker 2: steven A. I think I played one pickup game with
Speaker 2: van Pelt.
Speaker 8: From the free throw line.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he's probably got some nice for him, you know, shooter.
Speaker 2: All right, dang, I got sidetracked there.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: June in Virginia beach, Hi June, thanks for holding what's
Speaker 2: on your mind today?
Speaker 9: Good morning, Dan and Danetts. I call you every year
Speaker 9: around this I'm Today is my son, Marty's forty third birthday,
Speaker 9: and he just celebrated seven years of beating als. It
Speaker 9: has taken his body, but it's not taken his spirit,
Speaker 9: or his intelligence or his sense of humor. And Marty
Speaker 9: was almost born with a love of sports. He learned
Speaker 9: to read when he was three years old because he
Speaker 9: wanted to read the sports page and read about his
Speaker 9: football teams. And he picked the Detroit Lions when he
Speaker 9: was three years old as his team. So there have
Speaker 9: been a lot of lean years, but he's stuck with them.
Speaker 9: Barry Sanders is his all time favorite athlete. And I
Speaker 9: just like every year for you guys to sing happy
Speaker 9: birthday to him and give him a little lift. And
Speaker 9: I know that I'm going to be calling you until
Speaker 9: you retire every year for Marty's birthday because he's convinced
Speaker 9: that he has the Stephen Hawking kind of als it's
Speaker 9: gonna take his body, but it's figured out it's not
Speaker 9: going to kill him, so it's going to leave him alone.
Speaker 9: So looking forward to a long life.
Speaker 2: Well, June, you might have to call me when I
Speaker 2: retire from this just so we can say and sing
Speaker 2: the following Happy birthday, June.
Speaker 9: Thank you very much. Yes, I love you well, we
Speaker 9: love you too.
Speaker 2: Thank you very very nice that you call in and
Speaker 2: Uh June and Virginia Beach Uh, Andrew and Washington, Hi Andrew.
Speaker 10: Good morning, Dan Denne's thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 6: Have to follow that up.
Speaker 10: Happy birthday, Marty. I now want the Lions to win
Speaker 10: the Super Bowl this year, just for Marty.
Speaker 6: Seriously.
Speaker 10: On another note, there's no bad ideas about the NBA.
Speaker 10: How about every place on the active roster on the
Speaker 10: bench has to play sometime. You bring it back to
Speaker 10: you know, when you were in grade school and everybody
Speaker 10: got a rotation, So maybe that's an option that.
Speaker 6: Everybody has to play.
Speaker 10: But Dan, I did call because I'm going to join
Speaker 10: the surgery, the shoulder surgery group tomorrow, and I wanted
Speaker 10: to see how yours was going, what your recovery is like.
Speaker 10: What your PT was and how you are today.
Speaker 3: Everything's good. I do PT a couple of times a
Speaker 3: week here in the.
Speaker 2: Man Cave and making great progress there, So good luck
Speaker 2: with that. Andrew shoulders, they don't have it down yet.
Speaker 2: It's hips they do knees pretty good shoulders. That feels
Speaker 2: like an inexact science just from my own personal surgeries
Speaker 2: that I've had. But once again, minor surgery is when
Speaker 2: it's on someone else. Whenever they put you under, it's
Speaker 2: not minor surgery. Just say, let me see Rick and
Speaker 2: grand Rapids. Hi Rick, Uh, first one line line one,
Speaker 2: Marv Hey Rick or Rodney?
Speaker 3: This is Rod Hey, rod how's it going good? What's
Speaker 3: on your mind?
Speaker 6: Good? Good?
Speaker 11: Hey, first time caller, long, long time listener. Appreciate what
Speaker 11: you guys do. Uh, No bad ideas for the NBA.
Speaker 11: Since I'm in the heartland of NBA in Northwest Iowa here,
Speaker 11: how about we just make everything a three pointer except
Speaker 11: for inside the box.
Speaker 3: I don't want more three pointers.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 2: But once again, no bad ideas. I don't know if
Speaker 2: they do something with the court, I don't. And once again,
Speaker 2: we talked about this at LinkedIn the first hour Baseball's trying,
Speaker 2: but baseball needed to try. The NBA has had, you know,
Speaker 2: a steady decline in the last ten years.
Speaker 3: Baseball's had.
Speaker 2: Baseball had a great year this year, and there are
Speaker 2: things to build on the gold net bat.
Speaker 3: Do I like it?
Speaker 2: No, that doesn't mean that I would reject it. I'd
Speaker 2: like to see it if you did it in spring training.
Speaker 2: I mean that's how it started with the pitch count, Like,
Speaker 2: let's just see it before you go.
Speaker 3: That's stupid.
Speaker 2: If I would have said a red, white and blue
Speaker 2: basketball and a three point shot back when the ABA
Speaker 2: came into business, you'd be like, what yeh makey?
Speaker 3: That's silly.
Speaker 2: A lot of the stuff that was going on in
Speaker 2: the ABA, the NBA adopted, the NFL has adopted, Like
Speaker 2: you have to adapt or you get steamrolled. And you're
Speaker 2: going against this behemoth in the NFL. Now they're going
Speaker 2: to play games on Christmas Day. That was the NBA's
Speaker 2: coming out party. They don't care. They want to eat
Speaker 2: everything in front of them, the gambling, everything, and baseball
Speaker 2: and basketball trying to keep up having gambling. It it's
Speaker 2: it's nothing compared to the NFL.
Speaker 4: Yes, Dodd, what if you miss a three and they
Speaker 4: subtract three points from your score. That'll kind of reduce
Speaker 4: the number three points, especially the ones that aren't very
Speaker 4: good at taken them.
Speaker 6: What you just do?
Speaker 4: We were up seventy one sixty three and out sixty
Speaker 4: eight sixty three.
Speaker 6: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: There's no bad ideas to lose three points when you missed.
Speaker 3: There is no bad ideas today.
Speaker 6: None.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a break. Maurice Jones Drew will
Speaker 3: join us.
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Speaker 2: Over the last three games, the Bears have been outscored
Speaker 2: fifty three to nothing in the first half. Chicago's the
Speaker 2: first team to have three consecutive scoreless first halfs since
Speaker 2: the twenty eighteen Jacksonville Jaguars. Congratulations.
Speaker 3: How stead of a day.
Speaker 8: Stant of to day statuta day stand outa day.
Speaker 3: This is the start of the day.
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Speaker 2: Here's some advice for Bears fans. Don't watch the first half,
Speaker 2: just wait around and watch the second half might be
Speaker 2: a little more enjoyable.
Speaker 3: He is Maurice Jones.
Speaker 2: Drew, NFL network analyst, RAMS Radio color analyst, and former
Speaker 2: NFL running back. Good to see you again, Good to
Speaker 2: have you on the program. How threatening are the Vikings?
Speaker 6: Mojo well first and foremost, Dan, great to be back. Second.
Speaker 6: No Jaguars lander will be allowed while I'm on here.
Speaker 6: No more Jaguars slander. We've had enough.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, we've had enough.
Speaker 6: Stat of the day, you know, unless it's positive, we
Speaker 6: don't want to talk anything negative about the Jags, all right.
Speaker 6: Stat of the day was a little That was a
Speaker 6: little tough for me to hear you say that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've learned my lesson. I'll try to be nice.
Speaker 2: Let me see if I can find something nicer. How
Speaker 2: about when I was gonna say.
Speaker 6: It's okay, we can move on, you know, you know,
Speaker 6: Jags near and dear to our hearts here and the
Speaker 6: Jones Drew household. Been a tough season, but we can
Speaker 6: move forward.
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't have this one.
Speaker 2: The Raiders have trailed by double digits, in all fourteen
Speaker 2: games this season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that doesn't That doesn't help either. That doesn't help.
Speaker 6: But we're going the wrong way. Let's talk about the Vikings.
Speaker 3: Okay, how threatening are the Vikings to me?
Speaker 6: I think the Vikings when Sam Darnold is and the
Speaker 6: way he's playing, they can beat anyone, especially in the
Speaker 6: in the NFC North. Now with Detroit going through all
Speaker 6: those injuries, and I know Dan Campbell's fired up about
Speaker 6: the the challenge that will be for his team, But
Speaker 6: in the NFL, it's it's about the Krim, Dela Krim.
Speaker 6: It's about the talent that you have on that roster,
Speaker 6: and miss is so many guys that they have right
Speaker 6: now on defense, David Montgomery out for this season. That's
Speaker 6: gonna be tough to overcome.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying they can't do it, but the way
Speaker 6: the Vikings are playing, they're my favor right now to
Speaker 6: win the NFC North.
Speaker 2: What would you do with Sam Darnold's contract moving forward?
Speaker 6: I would I would actually sign Sam to a two
Speaker 6: to three year deal, continue to let JJ McCarthy sit
Speaker 6: and learn, very similar to what kind of the Packers
Speaker 6: do with Jordan Love. If Sam can continue to play
Speaker 6: this way, I think the Vikings have a great chance
Speaker 6: to continue to build a roster with him and then
Speaker 6: obviously move on from him in a year two years,
Speaker 6: and then put J. J. McCarthy in there, and you're
Speaker 6: reading a role you got to you had a winner.
Speaker 6: So to me, I think they put themselves in a
Speaker 6: position out Let me be honest. I wasn't a believer
Speaker 6: in Sam Darnold. I don't think many were because of
Speaker 6: what he did in New York, and I know he
Speaker 6: played better in Carolina. I know he sat with the Niners,
Speaker 6: but what we saw from him as a full starter
Speaker 6: in New York was tough to watch, right, a lot
Speaker 6: of turnovers, a lot of mistakes being made. But kudos
Speaker 6: to him for working on himself, working on his game
Speaker 6: and going into Minnesota into a situation where you have
Speaker 6: a lot of weapons around you, and he's really taken
Speaker 6: advantage of this opportunity. So to me, he's earned the
Speaker 6: right to play again next year, especially being what where
Speaker 6: they're twelve and two right now and and you have
Speaker 6: a chance to win the North. To me, that's a
Speaker 6: huge accomplishment for not only does the Vikings organization, but
Speaker 6: for Sam himself.
Speaker 3: Pristine give mojo.
Speaker 4: The poll question question is which NFL franchise feels like
Speaker 4: it is in the worst shape? Bears, Giants, Anthers, Raiders, Browns, Jaguars, Titans.
Speaker 5: What in that group who's in the worst shape moving forward?
Speaker 6: You know, again, I told you no Jaguars slander, so
Speaker 6: you didn't have to put them in there. Also, Brian
Speaker 6: Callahan is a great friend of mine. No Titan slander.
Speaker 6: I feel like that franchise is on the rise, that
Speaker 6: they have a good defense, they're rolling. To me, it
Speaker 6: has to be the Giants, and the reason being is
Speaker 6: you let go of I want to say two or
Speaker 6: three players in free agency that are playing well for
Speaker 6: the McKinney in Green Bay, obviously Saquon and Philly, And
Speaker 6: I want to say there was another player that's actually
Speaker 6: playing really well that they let go of free agency.
Speaker 6: You just can't let talent hit free agency and not
Speaker 6: bring them back. You just can't do that. And a
Speaker 6: lot of that was because they paid Daniel Jones a
Speaker 6: ton of money. Now you let you, you let go right,
Speaker 6: And now you're sitting there in disarray trying to figure
Speaker 6: out what's going on. Another tough season for them and
Speaker 6: what makes it worse for me is that they did
Speaker 6: the off season hard knocks and the way they were
Speaker 6: talking about their players right, and that to me just is.
Speaker 3: This kind of like, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Now, Yes, the Browns have a tough situation. I think
Speaker 6: all those teams are in pretty volatile situations. But to me,
Speaker 6: the Giants just how it went about it, what it
Speaker 6: looked like from the outside, and then getting a peak
Speaker 6: on the inside it looked exactly what we thought it
Speaker 6: was going to look like, and then the season you
Speaker 6: have it just doesn't work well for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really surprised that they allowed those behind
Speaker 2: the scenes phone calls and you have the you know,
Speaker 2: the GM talking to Saquon Barkley, and it just it
Speaker 2: was embarrassing because I mean, not having you know, read
Speaker 2: the room, understand what you're saying. You're saying it on
Speaker 2: TV cameras and you're basically saying this one Barkley, Yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead and see if somebody likes you. But you know,
Speaker 2: come back to us and let us know. Man, I'd
Speaker 2: be out the door be like nope, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to look back on this.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, shout out to the scout too, or the
Speaker 6: one of the personnel people were like, are you sure
Speaker 6: you want to do this? Right? He was there to
Speaker 6: make sure, like are you sure you want to let
Speaker 6: saquad walk? And they were kind of like, yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 6: We're not going to pay a quarterback forty million dollars
Speaker 6: to turn around and hand off to a thirteen million
Speaker 6: dollar back, Like, well, guess what. Philly is more than
Speaker 6: happy to do that. And you know, to be quite honest,
Speaker 6: he shouldn't be. He should be paid ten times that
Speaker 6: amount to what he's done for Philadelphia in their offense.
Speaker 6: Right in a situation where he won them a couple
Speaker 6: of games while guys were hurt, and he's been the
Speaker 6: focal point of that offense. He needs to go back.
Speaker 6: You know, if it's me and I'm I'm glad I'm
Speaker 6: not his agent, because we'd be going back to the table, Sir.
Speaker 6: I'd be knocking on the door, like we need a
Speaker 6: couple a little bit more of this pie that you
Speaker 6: got going around here, you know.
Speaker 2: Maurice Jones drew NFL Network and List. I don't know
Speaker 2: if Kirk Cousins is your friend, but I have to
Speaker 2: ask you, is it time to bench Kirk cousins in Atlanta.
Speaker 6: Okay, so this is the thing. I we had this conversation.
Speaker 6: I do a show every Monday for the people in
Speaker 6: the UK and Ireland for NFL, and it's we do
Speaker 6: a Monday night show and we talk about it. Like,
Speaker 6: Kurt is a great guy. He's great in the locker room,
Speaker 6: but you can't continue to turn the ball over at
Speaker 6: the rate he turned the ball over. And to me,
Speaker 6: I believe, look, if you want if you're fighting for
Speaker 6: this spot and you want to win it, maybe you
Speaker 6: feel like, hey, Michael Pennix, is are ready yet? Or
Speaker 6: I gotta go see that. I can't sit back and
Speaker 6: have this guy and ow throw a touchdown for what
Speaker 6: four or five weeks, continue to lose games that are
Speaker 6: winnable games and put us in a position where where
Speaker 6: we're not playing well. Now, he does do a great
Speaker 6: job off of play action pass, but they've been in
Speaker 6: some drop back pass and situations where he's just made
Speaker 6: bad decisions. And to be quite frank with you, I
Speaker 6: don't know he's still hurt or if Father Thomas caught
Speaker 6: up to him, But sometimes when he throws the football,
Speaker 6: it doesn't seem like he had a lot of that
Speaker 6: pizazz that he had on it when he was in Minnesota,
Speaker 6: and so for me, I just think it's time to
Speaker 6: see what we have. And I know they're in the race,
Speaker 6: and I know they're still winning, and I love Raheem Morris,
Speaker 6: so I'm gonna believe and trusted him. But if I
Speaker 6: was the coach, I would have pulled Kirk a while
Speaker 6: ago and saw the young guy was gonna do.
Speaker 2: What's the difference with Josh Allen this year as opposed
Speaker 2: to maybe the last couple of years.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, So first and foremost, I think he's just
Speaker 6: playing with the confidence and understanding of this offense, and
Speaker 6: it must be the same offense. Uh. You know, obviously
Speaker 6: Joe bradyer in their connection, but Watson him versus the Rams.
Speaker 6: So you gotta remember this is again I worked. You said,
Speaker 6: I worked for the Rams, big Rams fan. That's why
Speaker 6: I said, no slander for the Rams, Jags, Raiders, we
Speaker 6: refuse that. And the Titans because my guy Brian Callahan
Speaker 6: and Nick Holts. But I saw Sakuon Barkley versus the Rams,
Speaker 6: and I was like, this is the best player I've
Speaker 6: ever seen football, And my god, like this is crazy,
Speaker 6: you know, then double back a couple of weeks later,
Speaker 6: the next week or something crazy like that. Here comes
Speaker 6: Josh Allen and I was like, no, this is the
Speaker 6: best player ever. Right. He was throwing the ball. He's
Speaker 6: had a couple throws. If they were arrows, they would
Speaker 6: have killed some of those receivers away. He just hit
Speaker 6: him square in the chest like he was putting the
Speaker 6: ball in positions. The Rams defenders were in great position,
Speaker 6: and he was the throw to Mac Hollins for a touchdown,
Speaker 6: a couple of throws to Mary Cooper, and then his
Speaker 6: ability to take off and run and he's he's again,
Speaker 6: you're bigger, he's your biggest runner, right, so he the
Speaker 6: goal line opportunities. Then you see the way he's running
Speaker 6: and taking the time, Well, he picks his spots when
Speaker 6: he wants to be superman. If that makes sense, I
Speaker 6: think that's what that's what's the difference we've seen between
Speaker 6: Josh Allen now and Josh Allen before. He always wanted
Speaker 6: to be superman, always want to make the throws, always
Speaker 6: want to do all these things. Now he allows the
Speaker 6: game to come to them, meaning they're going to run
Speaker 6: the football. He's not gonna take chances. And then they
Speaker 6: have play calls where they probably talked to him throughout
Speaker 6: the week like all right, this is where you could
Speaker 6: be Superman if you need to be. These are the
Speaker 6: moments where we need you to be Superman. We need
Speaker 6: you to run the ball here, We need you to
Speaker 6: extend the play and throw the ball down the field
Speaker 6: here on this third down, Like there must be a
Speaker 6: code word that they tell him where he turns from
Speaker 6: you know, park in to Superman. And he goes out
Speaker 6: and does it. And again a guy like like I said,
Speaker 6: like he's clearly right now. You know, obviously I'm a
Speaker 6: running back enthusiast and I love RBS and I'm all over.
Speaker 6: But what he's done the last couple of weeks scoring
Speaker 6: forty points in back to back games against defenses that
Speaker 6: have played really well throughout this season. And I mean,
Speaker 6: what's that? Who had forty eight that last week? He
Speaker 6: has forty two the week before, whatever it might have been,
Speaker 6: Like like my goodness, And so to me, he's just
Speaker 6: he's really learning his when the moment is for him
Speaker 6: him to go out and show what he can do.
Speaker 6: But he's relying on his teammates and that's that's what's
Speaker 6: great to see.
Speaker 3: Great to talk to you as always. Hope you're doing well.
Speaker 6: Oh always, Well we'll get going. Look listen, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: be honest with you. I had youth football, I had
Speaker 6: high school football. Uh we lost the state championship game
Speaker 6: to the number one team in the country. I'm still
Speaker 6: haven't moved out of my bed in three days.
Speaker 3: Did you did you cry?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 6: I don't cry, just I just you know, replay the
Speaker 6: game over and over and over again. But our kids
Speaker 6: played really well. We just we did. We had some
Speaker 6: opportunities we didn't take advantage of. And so I watched
Speaker 6: the tape. I'm sitting here. I mean I I silent cried,
Speaker 6: which means I didn't like boohoo, but like a couple
Speaker 6: of tears dropped, because you know, just losing. Losing is hard,
Speaker 6: but you can learn from losing. And I'm learning that
Speaker 6: I'm a terrible loser. And I'm again we're going back
Speaker 6: to the drawing board. We're ready to go see the
Speaker 6: kids in a couple of weeks. You know, is Uh
Speaker 6: going to do Christmas? He's gonna get Christmas this year.
Speaker 6: Sanna doesn't come to losers houses. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But the kids already know, like Sena doesn't come. He
Speaker 6: doesn't like that. He loves winners. So we gotta, we
Speaker 6: gotta read, We gotta figure this thing back out again.
Speaker 3: Is your son being recruited?
Speaker 6: He is, He is being a recruit. He has offers
Speaker 6: by call in Utah right now, has a couple other
Speaker 6: schools talking to him. So uh, he's a sophomore, but
Speaker 6: he had a he had a really good sophomore year.
Speaker 6: And we're getting ready for our junior year here. Like
Speaker 6: I said, back back to it. No Christmas this year.
Speaker 3: Good to talk about it.
Speaker 6: Good to talk to you as well.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Mojo. That's Maurice Jones Drew. He has the
Speaker 2: most rushing yards, rushing touchdowns, scrimmage yards, scrimmage touchdowns of
Speaker 2: any NFL player five seven or shorter.
Speaker 5: That's something.
Speaker 3: Stead of the day.
Speaker 5: Stat of the day.
Speaker 3: Here comes that one stat of the day. Okay, all right.
Speaker 5: I have to hang your hat on. Yeah you have
Speaker 5: to reach a little higher to hang the hat on,
Speaker 5: but you gotta hang out well.
Speaker 2: Does Muggsy Bogues have the best stats of any player
Speaker 2: five foot five and under in NBA?
Speaker 6: History.
Speaker 5: Likely.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I gotta google Earl Boykins. Oh ooh, Earl.
Speaker 3: Muggsy was pretty Muggy was a starter in the league.
Speaker 3: Muggsy was pretty good. Yeah, Paul, If.
Speaker 8: We did greatest American sports athlete under five to ten,
Speaker 8: because you can't go international because then Messi ruins the
Speaker 8: whole thing for everybody, that would be a fun topic.
Speaker 3: The best American athlete five ten or shorter? Where are
Speaker 3: we going? Because that's that's the cutoff.
Speaker 8: Is it under five to ten or five to ten
Speaker 8: in under your call?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: Who That's when guys will lie about their height. That's
Speaker 2: when they'll go, hey, I'm not five five ten and
Speaker 2: a half. I'm actually five nine and three quarters. Is
Speaker 2: Jack Nicholas five ten or under? I think he might.
Speaker 2: Now he's probably listed in the program at five to ten,
Speaker 2: but when I met Jack, he wasn't five to ten.
Speaker 8: Yes, Paul, you know old school basketball, Calvin Murphy, the
Speaker 8: NBA guard, Yeah, he was great Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's clearly under five times, I think, Yeah, I think, uh,
Speaker 3: five to nine. Uh, can we check and see what
Speaker 3: Jack Nicholas, Barry Sanders, Barry Sanders, Oh boy, pretty great.
Speaker 3: He was five to nine.
Speaker 2: Let me see if we can get Jack Nicholas's right there, Todd,
Speaker 2: are you googling right now?
Speaker 5: I was texting a upcoming guess something.
Speaker 7: Oh okay, yes, yes, Marph, it says Jack Nicholas is
Speaker 7: listed at five to ten.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's really five to nine.
Speaker 2: Well no, I don't think he's five to ten, but
Speaker 2: he's barely five bear go barely?
Speaker 3: Okay, I respect that one.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Todd. Uh who else would be under five?
Speaker 2: Five to ten and under? I think you have to
Speaker 2: do five ten. There's a lot of people who listed
Speaker 2: at five to ten, five to ten are under. All right,
Speaker 2: let me take a break, uh, Michael Vick and a
Speaker 2: couple of college jobs. We'll talk about that. More phone
Speaker 2: calls as well.
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Speaker 2: Once again, no bad ideas when it comes to helping.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say fix the NBA. Help the NBA.
Speaker 2: That's all just being open minded, sort of like baseball's
Speaker 2: been the last couple of years. Me just try some things,
Speaker 2: throw them out there. See if they were. I think
Speaker 2: the NBA needs some help making it a little bit
Speaker 2: more enjoyable. Tune in factor.
Speaker 3: Ratings a steady decline in the last ten years.
Speaker 7: Yes, morph the NBA should go with the elm ending.
Speaker 7: They had it in the All Star Game a couple
Speaker 7: of years, where there's a target score. Yeah, where it
Speaker 7: always ends on a made basket, almost like pick up basketball. Yeah,
Speaker 7: instead of oh, they run the clock out, somebody's you know,
Speaker 7: winning by fifty points or thirty points or whatever. It's
Speaker 7: always going to be a tight game and you're always
Speaker 7: playing to win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's drastic, but it was interesting. There was a
Speaker 2: curiosity factor there. Once again, no bad ideas. Speaking of
Speaker 2: which Michael Vick maybe two coaching opportunities good idea, bad idea.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much coaching experience he has. One
Speaker 2: is Norfolk State. Now, he was obviously very big time
Speaker 2: athlete in Newport News, Virginia that area and Sacramento State.
Speaker 2: Sack State wants to get into the PAC twelve and
Speaker 2: they've been a successful smaller school what is that FBS
Speaker 2: FBS FBS, and you know they want to up the ante.
Speaker 2: They want to get into the PAC twelve, you know,
Speaker 2: the new and improved PAC twelve and Michael Vick. I
Speaker 2: don't know if there's any ties to Michael Vick with Sacramentum.
Speaker 2: We certainly know with Norfolk, but I could see that happening.
Speaker 2: I could see, and you're starting to see this. You know,
Speaker 2: Eddie George is coaching in college d and of course
Speaker 2: took a college job. Ed Reid almost took a college job.
Speaker 2: And these are smaller schools, historically black colleges and universities
Speaker 2: giving them an opportunity. But Norfolk State with Michael Vick,
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, what is any coaching experience?
Speaker 2: Maybe high school, but I don't know. But see everybody,
Speaker 2: everybody wants to get to get the Dean Sanders effect.
Speaker 2: That's what North Carolina is hoping for. Bill Belichick, you
Speaker 2: got your Dion. Well, no, there's only one don You
Speaker 2: can have Eddie George. Eddie George a wonderful guy, not
Speaker 2: Dion ed Reid, He not Dia. Michael Vick not Dion.
Speaker 2: You got to have personality, and he has more than enough.
Speaker 2: But he has been in our world, in our life
Speaker 2: for thirty years. We've seen prime, We've seen all of
Speaker 2: this good, bad, great took the job at Jackson State.
Speaker 2: Everybody's like, what what are you doing there? He was
Speaker 2: just there just to get people's attention, and then Florida
Speaker 2: State didn't hire him. Travis Hunter was going to go
Speaker 2: to Florida State. Dion's like, Hey, I'm bringing my boys,
Speaker 2: and uh, why don't you come with me?
Speaker 3: We're going to Colorado.
Speaker 2: And I think even Travis Hunter's like, damn, it's cold there,
Speaker 2: and Shador's like, oh no, we'll heat it up. End
Speaker 2: up winning the Heisman. They had a great year, almost
Speaker 2: qualified for the college football playoffs. But if you think
Speaker 2: you're getting Dion Sanders, think again. In one guy, that's it.
Speaker 2: But if I'm Sacramento State, all right, you got people's
Speaker 2: attention with Mike Norfolk, I get that one, just you know, geographically,
Speaker 2: but trying to get a coach that kids are going
Speaker 2: to want to play for that they know who he is,
Speaker 2: and you know, Mike's Mike's kind of reserved. He's shy
Speaker 2: almost now. He wasn't when he was on the field.
Speaker 2: That was his personality. If you're recruiting, like this is
Speaker 2: what this is? The knock on Belichick? Can he relate
Speaker 2: to these players, his personality, how's that going to come across.
Speaker 2: I don't know how Michael Vick will be in the
Speaker 2: room with you know, these parents zoom calls. Kids want
Speaker 2: to be a dual threat, you know, a quarterback.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't have any idea.
Speaker 2: What Norfolk State football program has been like the last
Speaker 2: ten year, five years. I know Sacramento State has played
Speaker 2: playoff games FBS.
Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin does every single college college coach need to
Speaker 7: be charismatic.
Speaker 2: I think if you're trying to get Dion effect, then like,
Speaker 2: if I'm hiring you, what am I hiring you to do? Like,
Speaker 2: I need you to go in there and you're the face,
Speaker 2: So be in the face. You've got to be out
Speaker 2: in front. You got to be recruiting. You got to
Speaker 2: you know, when you're at the press conference, when you're
Speaker 2: being interviewed, you're there all the time. You're you're out front.
Speaker 2: And this is what Belichick's going to have to do.
Speaker 2: Hey we need you go to the basketball game. Hey
Speaker 2: you know we got booster meeting here. Hey we have this,
Speaker 2: we have that. We that's what college is now. You
Speaker 2: can delegate to a certain degree, but if you're going
Speaker 2: to be that focal point, that figurehead. We want to
Speaker 2: see you. Then it comes down to I know Belichick
Speaker 2: can coach. Belichick gives you an advantage over every coach
Speaker 2: in America because he's a better coach than any coach
Speaker 2: in America. So you always have an advantage going into
Speaker 2: a game. I don't know. Now Michael Vick was a
Speaker 2: player coach, then might be a little more interesting for me.
Speaker 2: But good if he gets an opportunity. And look, I've
Speaker 2: spent time with Mike. I've mentioned this before. You know,
Speaker 2: we know what he did with dog fighting. Everybody knows
Speaker 2: that he went to prison. He paid a price. He
Speaker 2: went to a hardcore prison, and when he got out,
Speaker 2: Tony Dungee took him under his wing and said, look,
Speaker 2: I want to help you. And one of the things
Speaker 2: he did, he said, I want you to go and
Speaker 2: talk to these kids at a prison outside of Tampa.
Speaker 2: And Tony asked me, Tony had done me a favor,
Speaker 2: and he said, I want you to do me a favor.
Speaker 2: I want you to come down here with me with Mike.
Speaker 2: And I got to see Mike in a prison yard
Speaker 2: and I'm guessing ninety five percent were African American and
Speaker 2: probably ninety five percent were under twenty five years of age,
Speaker 2: but they listened to it. When he spoke, they listened
Speaker 2: and he went around. There were even there were guys
Speaker 2: who were in their jail cells who weren't allowed out
Speaker 2: in the yard that you know, they had done something
Speaker 2: where they were on lockdown. Mike went in and walked
Speaker 2: around and talked to everybody who was there in their
Speaker 2: jail cell through the through the bars and spoke to them.
Speaker 2: And you could see the reaction from these kids. And
Speaker 2: they were kids twenty five and under, it felt like.
Speaker 2: And Tony Dungee wanted wanted Michael to kind of share
Speaker 2: his experience he had been in prison, and I, I,
Speaker 2: you know, I do root for him. I like, Mike,
Speaker 2: did he make a terrible mistake?
Speaker 3: Yes he did.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 2: I went to dinner with him with Tony Dungee one
Speaker 2: night in Tampa, and uh, you know, he was very reserve,
Speaker 2: very quiet, and probably not trusting of me because I
Speaker 2: was a member of the media. But you know I
Speaker 2: could I could tell where he just looked around the
Speaker 2: whole night. We were in a booth and uh, I
Speaker 2: think it was Lee Roy Selman's restaurant and he just
Speaker 2: looking around constantly because people would walk by and he
Speaker 2: didn't know how they were going to react to him.
Speaker 2: But I mean we've had him on subsequently and we've
Speaker 2: talked football, and you know, he he knows what happened,
Speaker 2: and you know, he could even have a dog and
Speaker 2: want to have a dog for his kids, and you know,
Speaker 2: so there's a lot tied up in all of that,
Speaker 2: and I don't know, it sounds like, you know, these
Speaker 2: universities may be past that and giving him an opportunity
Speaker 2: to coach. So maybe he can walk in and you know,
Speaker 2: he doesn't have the same impact that Dion had, but
Speaker 2: nobody does. But maybe they'll listen to him. Maybe you
Speaker 2: can recruit, maybe he can build something there at Norfolk
Speaker 2: State or Sacramento State.
Speaker 7: Yes, Mark, because maybe sometimes the name is enough if
Speaker 7: you're a quarterback and you're the parents, So the parents
Speaker 7: might be more geek to meet Michael Vick than It's
Speaker 7: almost like the Deon Sanders thing, like they don't know
Speaker 7: Diana as a player, but their parents love them. So
Speaker 7: if my kid was twenty and Michael Vick walked in,
Speaker 7: I'd be super excited, no matter how charismatic. He might
Speaker 7: or might not be. Just the name alone rings bells
Speaker 7: to where. You know what, Let's give Sacramento State a shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe yeah, Pull.
Speaker 8: I'm reading the Sacramento b this morning and the reporter
Speaker 8: said it's premature say Michael Vick as the next coach.
Speaker 8: They're talking to a number of coaches and his name
Speaker 8: leaked out.
Speaker 2: Well, the Norfolk State thing, that's real, and I get
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