1 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome to a new episode of Couch 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: Talks on You Need Therapy podcasts. My name is Kat. 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: I am the host, and if you are unfamiliar with 4 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: what couch Talks is, it is the bonus episode of 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: You Need Therapy where I answer questions that listeners send 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: to me at Catherine at therapy at podcast dot com. 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: Usually each week I answer one question. I always keep 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: it anonymous, and I always like to remind people that 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: although I am a therapist, it's called You Need Therapy, 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: and I am answering your questions. This podcast does not 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: serve as a replacement or substitute for any actual mental 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: health services. However, we always hope that it can help 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: you in some way. Now today, a couple things are different. One, 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm married. Now. This is my first episode that I'm 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: record as a married person. I got married on the 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: sixteenth and then took a little break, and I'm fully 17 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: back to celebrate that and also to celebrate a week 18 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: that is very important to me. We're going to do 19 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: something a little bit different today with couch Talks. So 20 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: instead of answering a specific question that you guys have 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: sent to me today, I am going to talk about 22 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: something that has to do with the week that it 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: is and the week that it is is, which is 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: a very confusing way to say that this week is 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: National Eating Disorders Awareness Week. So recently I've been putting 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: out a lot of content around specifically eating disorders within 27 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: the podcast, and I feel like that happens from time 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: to time just because I am a therapist that specializes 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: in eating disorders. But since we've been having a lot 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: of dedicated content to that on the Monday episodes, I 31 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: did not prepare a specific Monday episode dedicated to Nita. However, 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: I still wanted to give it the attention that it deserves. 33 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: And the purpose of nAeda Week is to help spread 34 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: awareness of the disease that is eating disorders, and to 35 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: spread awareness of how prevalent and also how serious they 36 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: really are, and also at the same time, to spread 37 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: awareness of the fact that there are resources available and 38 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: there is help available, and people don't have to continue 39 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: living their lives in ways that they are when they're 40 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: struggling with eating disorders of any kind. So again, to 41 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: celebrate this week and to do my part in the 42 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 1: neda weak world, I thought today would be a good 43 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: time to do a little mini episode about one of 44 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: the forms of eating disorders that can be ignored or 45 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: passed on as morally high behavior or just missed because 46 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: of the way it presents and the way our world 47 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: is obsessed with body image and health and wellness these days, 48 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: and that is orthorexia. Orthorexia is a type of disordered 49 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: eating where somebody becomes obsessed with the health of foods. 50 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: It's currently not recognized in the DSM, which is the 51 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: Diagnostic Statistical Manual for Mental Health Disorders, which is where 52 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: we get the codes and the things that we need 53 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: to diagnose clients with mental health disorders, and it shares 54 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: all the symptoms and the criteria that are needed to 55 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: meet each one, so they're not a specific orthorexia category. However, 56 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: when you are showing up with orthorexia, there is a 57 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: way to still be diagnosed. It still fits into a category. 58 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: It's just its own. I do have a feeling that's 59 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: going to be changing, But regardless of that, this type 60 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: of obsession with food and health can lead to a 61 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: diagnosis still within the eating disorder realm, and also oftentimes 62 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: it's co occurring with some other anxiety disorders and even 63 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: mood disorders, So I thought we just would talk about it, 64 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: do a little refresher because it's something that I feel 65 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: like is less known, less talked about, and less seen 66 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: as problematic when it is part of an eating disorder. 67 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: And eating disorders are progressive, So that means, even if 68 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: they seem not problematic right now, the longer that something 69 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: goes on, the worse it is going to get. So 70 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: let's get into it. Orthorexia, like I said before, it 71 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: in its simplest terms, means that there is an obsession 72 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: with healthy eating, and for people who are not immersed 73 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: in this field, that might not sound like a bad thing. 74 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: And eating healthy isn't bad, eating balanced isn't bad. That's 75 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: not exactly what is happening within this in a vacuum 76 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: that is not a bad thing. And someone also who 77 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: orthorex im most likely didn't start out being obsessed. But 78 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: like I said about eating disorders being progressive, they continue 79 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: to get worse and things can take a pretty fast turn, 80 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: not just because of reasons associated with that person that 81 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: might be struggling with it, because it's connected to our 82 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: culture now, and like I said, our world is very 83 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: obsessed with health and wellness, it's obsessed with diet and exercises, 84 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: obsessed with body image, the diet culture world, the beauty industry, 85 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: all of that. I mean, it's a multi billion dollar industry. 86 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: It is highly, highly, highly part of our culture. And 87 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: so there is so much we can take, so much 88 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: content we can absorb, and so many things we can 89 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: pay attention to that are all going to impact the 90 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: decisions we make and the types of food we eat, 91 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: and what we think is right and what we think 92 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: is wrong. It's easy to be taken down a really 93 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: really really really dark rabbit hole. There's a lot of 94 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: manipulation in that as well, which I've talked a lot 95 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: about on this show in various ways. To give you 96 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: a quick breakdown on what orthorexia can look like, even 97 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: though it is a little bit nuanced, I wanted to 98 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: hit some main points of what we look for and 99 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: what we see something that feels like it might be 100 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: bordering on the orthorexia side. These are some of the 101 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: things that we look out for and some things that 102 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: you might want to pay attention to within yourself or 103 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: maybe within a loved one that you are worried about. 104 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: So I took these warning signs for orthorexia from the 105 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: actual official need A website, the National Eating Disorder Association, 106 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: So this comes from their website, and I'm basically just 107 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 1: reading them off of there, but they fit very well. 108 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: So here they are. One compulsive checking of ingredient lists 109 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: and nutrition labels. Two an increase in concern about the 110 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: health of ingredients. Three cutting out an increasing number of foods. 111 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: This could be like all sugar, all carbs, all dairy, 112 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: all meat, all animal products, or an inability to eat 113 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: anything but a narrow group of foods that are deemed 114 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: in quotes healthy or pure. Five unusual interest in the 115 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: health of what others are eating. Six spending hours per 116 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: day thinking about what food might be served at upcoming events. 117 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Seven showing high levels of distress when safe or healthy 118 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: foods aren't available. Eight obsessive following up food and healthy 119 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: lifestyle blogs on Twitter, Instagram, and or TikTok. Possible body 120 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: image concerns. However, I do want to say orthorexia isn't 121 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: always associated with body image. It's not so much always 122 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: centered around just what our body looks like. It is 123 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: often centered around the quality of food, the type of food. 124 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: I think of it as like the clean eating non toxic, 125 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: all natural to the extreme type of person, and you 126 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: can really care about all of that stuff and live 127 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: a non toxic lifestyle or not lifestyle all of that. 128 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: And when these things are all combined, when we're seeing 129 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: something that can be labeled as disordered. It is when 130 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: those things affect the quality of one's life. And I 131 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: think that's a big part of this, because I don't 132 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: want people to think like, oh, I can't use non 133 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: toxic products at home, or I can't be concerned about 134 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: the type of foods I'm eating and wanting to make 135 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: sure that I'm not eating things that would be dangerous 136 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: or not good for me to ingest or all of that. 137 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: It's okay to eat organic like all of that stuff. Like, 138 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: that's not what we're saying here. When it comes to orthorexia. 139 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: It's when the obsession with that affects the quality of 140 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: one's life, and when it takes over somebody's life and 141 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: it no longer is I care about these things. It 142 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: is like a make or breakdo or die. I am 143 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: spending hours, if not days, weeks, all of my time 144 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: is consumed by a lot of this stuff, and it's 145 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: affecting how I interact with my friends, my family, the 146 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: ability for me to show up the events that I 147 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: go to. What I I'm allowing myself to engage in 148 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: and is it stealing joy from me and the people 149 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: around me? And I really want people listening to this, 150 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: whether it's resonating with you or it's reminding you of 151 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: a loved one, to know that people who have eating disorder, 152 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: specifically this type of eating disorder, are not failures at all. 153 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: They don't have some character defect or moral failing that 154 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: the rest of us are immune to. More times than not, 155 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: the people that are struggling with orthorexia are simply wanting 156 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: a better life. They want to fit into society, They 157 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: want to avoid current or future health complications. They want 158 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: to feel more comfortable in their own body or in 159 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: their own skin, things like that. I mean, how many 160 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: of us have heard how the type of food we 161 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: eat affects our health? Probably one hundred percent of us, 162 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: because probably all of us have heard that it's everywhere, 163 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: and it's not a false statement, it is true. The 164 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: issue that I think we run into here is to 165 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: what extent and how far are we willing to go? 166 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: Eating clean promises a life free of any ailments plus happiness. 167 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: I would for sure give it all the ghosts, But 168 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: does that really ring true? Is that really going to 169 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: keep us from every obstacle in our life? And is 170 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: it actually going to allow us to experience joy? If 171 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: we were so obsessed with eating this specific way, how 172 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: much is eating that specific way impacting the quality of 173 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: your or our lives? And how much does it take 174 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: away the quality of our lives? We have more, even 175 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: more recently, confused normal experiences of being human with things 176 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: that we should try to avoid at all costs. And 177 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: I talked a lot about this with Caroline Sherman the 178 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: episode that I did with her recently when she came 179 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: on a couple of weeks ago. And we've become obsessed 180 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: with things like inflammation and bloating and all the gi microbiome, 181 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: gut health, all of that, and we have taken very 182 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: no more experiences, and we have manipulated them, and now 183 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: we see them through a different lens, and a lot 184 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: of times it's a very disordered lens when we're using 185 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: terms like bloating when really we just might be full, 186 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: or it's like we're constantly looking for something to fix 187 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: or change or do better in and I don't fault 188 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: that on the individual. I think that, like I said earlier, 189 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: we're wanting better lives, so we're paying attention to things 190 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: that we hear and read and see. And what is 191 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: happening around us is that diet culture and the things 192 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: that are involved in diet culture, whether it's influencers, companies. 193 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: Just like marketing campaigns, diet culture uses a lot of 194 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: fear to encourage us to buy into things to in quotes, 195 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: help our health that actually don't really matter or actually 196 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't really affect us that much. And this is not 197 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: me saying we shouldn't care about our health, because I 198 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: think we can and we should, and that is very important. 199 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: I talked about this that with Crystal when she came 200 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: on that the podcast a month or two ago, about 201 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: how we want to reclaim health as something that we 202 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: can care about and pay attention to. But diet culture 203 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: has really really manipulated what that really means and what 204 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: that can look like, and it's easy to get carried 205 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: away with. I think we can care about taking care 206 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: of ourselves and experience freedom from food restriction rules and 207 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: food fears, and I want to remind people as I 208 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: kind of close this out, I did a whole episode 209 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: on orthorexia a couple of years ago. I'm going to 210 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: link that in the show notes that it will just 211 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: give you more context to this, because this was just 212 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: like a little teaser almost. It just wanted people that 213 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: have never heard of this to know it's a thing. 214 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: I also want to remind you as I'm closing this 215 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: out that eating disorders are progressive diseases, and even if 216 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: we aren't there yet, I just want us to be 217 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: mindful of the things we are starting to do. It 218 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: is really easy, really easy to get sucked into that 219 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: rabbit hole. I mean every day I feel like I 220 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: see something new that even I'm like, oh wow, should 221 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: I pay attention to that, Whether it's like I mean, actually, 222 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't even want to say them because I don't 223 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: even want to give any more time and energy to 224 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: these things that we really don't need to be paying 225 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: attention to. But every day there's something new, and we 226 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: can start out with really good intentions, and I think 227 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: it is a really really helpful practice to continue to 228 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: check in with ourselves and even ask our friends for 229 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: accountability when we think that we're getting a little too 230 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: far into something, not because we should be assuming that 231 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: we're going to take things too far, but because we 232 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: all deserve to pay attention to what can happen when 233 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: we mix good intentions with a culture that wants you 234 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: in a industry that thrives off of you, thinking that 235 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: you need more and you need to do more, and 236 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: you need to continue to become more obsessed with things 237 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: that you probably don't need to be obsessed with at all. 238 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: Now I'm getting into my Catherine Rant style, so I'm 239 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: just going to close us out and say that yes, 240 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: these things are progressive and we need to pay attention 241 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: to them. And also I want you to know, as 242 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: scary as that can sound, help is also available. And 243 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: while there's no exact cure fre eating disorders, there's not 244 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: a one size fits all for that. We can offer 245 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: hope through therapies and resources that have been shown to 246 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: help people recover. And I know everybody listening to this 247 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: does not live in Tennessee. And so rather than simply 248 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: give you guys a list of therapists and dieticians that 249 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: can be helpful resources, I wanted to give you something 250 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: that more people can benefit from. So in the show 251 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: notes I'm going to link that episode. I'm also going 252 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: to give you a small list because I don't want 253 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: to overwhelm anybody of books and social media accounts that 254 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: I have found as helpful in the realm of recovery. 255 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: So I hope you guys enjoy those, and I hope 256 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: you guys are having the need a week you need 257 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: to have, the day you need to have. And I 258 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: will be back with you guys on Monday for another 259 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: new episode.