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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 1: Thanks take vologized.

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Speaker 2: We are the authority on all things R.

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Speaker 1: And B, ladies and gentleman.

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Speaker 2: My name is Tank and this is the Army Money Podcast,

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Speaker 2: the authority on all things R and B. Ah, My, my, my,

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Speaker 2: my my on today. If you are struggling in your

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Speaker 2: vocal dexterity, Uh, there's a man. You're singing from the

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Speaker 2: wrong place. If you are singing from the wrong place,

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Speaker 2: If your lyrics are malnourished and have no meaty depth

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Speaker 2: to them, if your production needs spiced so that the

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Speaker 2: masses can cater to that, what you do.

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Speaker 1: If you need a man to get you on a level.

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Speaker 2: Amen, whether it be gospel, whether it be R and B,

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Speaker 2: whether it be.

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Speaker 3: Pop Katie pop, pop.

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Speaker 2: Poppa Diddy pop, pop rocks, whatever it is, We've got

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Speaker 2: a man and his name as Eric.

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Speaker 1: Wow Wow talkings.

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Speaker 2: All I got to say is, I don't think I've

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Speaker 2: ever in my fifty plus ears hurt somebody intro me

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Speaker 2: like that. Ever, I know you, brother, Ever, I know

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Speaker 2: you and uh you know we we we family, you know, you.

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Speaker 1: Know trenches.

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Speaker 2: Over and I'm talking like you know this this for

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Speaker 2: me goes back, you know, to being a kid and

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Speaker 2: listening to you and your brother Wow, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, and studying.

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Speaker 1: And like what is that?

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Speaker 2: Who is that?

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Speaker 1: And studying that voice? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: And and then to to one day finally meet you,

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Speaker 2: and and then for it to go even further to

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Speaker 2: us to begin to have a working relationship with then

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Speaker 2: the brotherhood.

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Speaker 1: It's been. It's been pretty awesome.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I want you to know that, you know that is

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Speaker 2: not taken for granted. You know, I always call you

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Speaker 2: my sense you know what I'm saying, Like we we

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Speaker 2: always used to get in there and shad and go

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Speaker 2: vocal for vocal and then everybody everybody ain't able.

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Speaker 1: Yeah everybody.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know at my album release party, you you

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Speaker 2: you definitely you know, you know, showed up as the teacher.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I mean, it's my album release.

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Speaker 2: It's a backpack on show with a backroom. Man, I

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Speaker 2: got this my album release.

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Speaker 4: I got more of my.

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Speaker 1: Back ye, nigga, I'm backpack. Keep it back. You know,

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Speaker 1: the shine is supposed to be on me.

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Speaker 4: Some people keep a pistol, a bag of people, keep.

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Speaker 2: A vocal.

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Speaker 1: A bag of Keep listen when I say you kicked

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Speaker 1: our ass that night.

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Speaker 2: It was so crazy because I think Jamie knew you

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Speaker 2: could sing, but I don't think he knew that you

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Speaker 2: were going to do all of that.

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Speaker 4: You know, some niggas take an injury.

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Speaker 1: He put his hamstring drunk.

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Speaker 2: Don't give me in like, I don't think, well, like this,

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Speaker 2: Jamie pulled the hams drag everybody on that line.

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Speaker 1: It was like this, I don't, I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 2: And it was just like it was one of those

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Speaker 2: moments where I was just like, man, listen, I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: humbled all the time. Like I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 2: gotten used to people giving me that, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, And that just comes from my upbringing. But

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Speaker 2: and it's because singing is what I love to do,

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Speaker 2: is my passion, It's my gift. And the definition of

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Speaker 2: a gift is something that you give away. So me

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Speaker 2: giving it like that, it is just like that's what I'm.

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Speaker 3: Giving these singers, these vocals business.

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Speaker 2: But no, it's that that's just you know, and then

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Speaker 2: with people like you that that I know I can

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Speaker 2: as long as it touches like we were that. So

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you for being being who you are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And this guy, you know, I I met Jay

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Speaker 2: barber shop. Yeah, Kenny was cutting his hand like this

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Speaker 2: is pretty nigga. We just waved and pretty on.

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Speaker 1: This nigga, don't nigga, ain't got no clippers though.

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Speaker 4: Set the sars out.

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Speaker 2: Her was ollive oil and glistening on man man. Kenny

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Speaker 2: introduced us and and told me who he was. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: that's what's up like, and we like from that moment,

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Speaker 2: like we didn't see each other for a minute, but

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Speaker 1: It was like this was he was a real real

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Speaker 2: It was all from then and we've been family from

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Speaker 2: day one. So plus yeah, we twenty plus that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I met you at the fred Hammer Concept con at

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Speaker 2: Faithful Central when I was at the forum, like I

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Speaker 2: like yo, that's tank, let's take right there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we ended up meeting them like.

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Speaker 2: Let's take you take take it.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: The hints of time.

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Speaker 2: Well the first time, you know, I love this question.

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Speaker 2: Somebody said to you, but you said to yourself, Oh

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Speaker 2: I got some.

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Speaker 1: It was you know.

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Speaker 2: Me and Anson wrote and co wrote like three songs

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Speaker 2: on Commission number seven.

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Speaker 1: No Way the.

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Speaker 2: First the first song on the album second Chance, and

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Speaker 2: me and Anson wrote that song as we were driving.

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Speaker 1: Are getting on My Nerves?

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Speaker 2: No, literally we were now we were driving to act

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Speaker 2: for a concert. I just worked out to the seventh album,

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Speaker 2: maybe like two weeks ago. We were driving literally driving

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Speaker 2: to Achering for Commission concert and we we had done

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Speaker 2: the track. We've done the track, and I did the

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Speaker 2: stuff on top of it.

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Speaker 1: That was my track, like.

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Speaker 2: And he he did his Fred Hammon things. Look yeah,

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Speaker 1: Was fucking question. Second you are crazy dead Seriously.

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Speaker 2: We wrote it on the way to achron like it

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Speaker 2: So we're going into the studio to do number seven

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Speaker 2: I might give answered a couple of ideas, but sitting

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Speaker 2: And so what I did because I was so afraid

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Speaker 1: I wrote like two different.

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Speaker 2: Versions of this song, and I said, let me sing

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Speaker 2: so they don't take it and just let answer do it.

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Speaker 1: I came out.

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Speaker 5: Here the lean I've been thinking about you and the

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Speaker 5: way you make me feel inside, and that in that

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Speaker 2: That song turned out to be I Can't Live without You?

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Literally?

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Speaker 1: I can't live without you?

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Speaker 2: I can't live, I can't live.

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Speaker 1: I can't live y'all? Yeah, that was that was the song.

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Speaker 2: I was twenty I just turned twenty one, but the

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Speaker 2: Troutman kidding and what gave me the inspiration? We used

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Speaker 1: M C.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, me and Ansen we toured with Commission.

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Speaker 2: Like when Fred heard our demo, he hired He literally

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Speaker 2: was doing oxkis like just you know, filling in here

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Speaker 2: the vocals for the band. When what year was from

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Speaker 2: ninety to like ninety four?

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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, we were on the road with him.

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Speaker 2: I had to have seen you because meantime, y'all, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but yeah, we toured.

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Speaker 2: With them for like the better part of three years,

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Speaker 2: and that gave us our start, like.

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Speaker 1: He was the first person to tell you, guys, he was.

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Speaker 2: That was That was where we we figured it out

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Speaker 2: because we had a couple a couple of bands that

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Speaker 2: we sang in locally in Ohio that they were they

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Speaker 2: were cool with being local or even regional, but we

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Speaker 2: had we had other other ideas. Our vision was a

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Speaker 2: lot bigger than Ohio. So we killed those two groups.

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Speaker 2: Was like, we'll just do it ourselves. And Fred actually

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Speaker 2: wanted us to be a part of a four a

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Speaker 2: if you know what Fred's company is called face to face.

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Speaker 2: Face to face was the name of our group. It

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Speaker 2: was me answering these two.

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Speaker 4: Girls and the company the group.

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Speaker 1: No, it was the name of the group.

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Speaker 2: First first we didn't have the company, so the group

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Speaker 2: one that came up with Dawkins and Dawkins Wow, and

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Speaker 2: Fred is my sensey, Like I tell people all the time,

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Speaker 2: Fred is that's who I studied. Fred put me on too,

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Speaker 2: course I loved Charlie Wilson, you know, but I get

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Speaker 2: That's my base because you can sound like you can.

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Speaker 2: You can him in front of him, and it kind

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Speaker 4: You're in the band wood if you listening to every day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's when he has a weird gift to

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Speaker 2: y'all here, ya can recreate bro. I'm listening to Tyree's demos.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And I'm literally looking at Tyr like I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I didn't see any of the Eric, and then so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in the movements.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the only way that's the difference, because you,

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Speaker 2: I mean when you're when you're dead on him, you'll

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Speaker 1: Him a little bit. But you can't help. I can't

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You can't help. You can't

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Speaker 2: I can say this. There's some records that are out

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Speaker 2: still singing it. I can believe it. Yeah, just certain

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Speaker 2: No, we're going to keep that, he says.

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Speaker 1: We do duets anyway, Like he tells, I have.

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Speaker 1: You got one? Just I like him?

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Speaker 4: Girl. That's that.

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Speaker 1: Listen to do it. Put me on the tyres no

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, y'all all the background here, y'all like this feature.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just two.

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Speaker 4: We sung background together, we.

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I said, you sound nice.

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Speaker 3: I was like no, because those vocals were from the demo,

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Speaker 2: It works if it were gonna mess up the vibe.

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Speaker 2: But treat you like Puff. It's it's the energy Faan

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Speaker 1: Do you feel it frustrated? You feel bad about it?

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Speaker 2: And I had to learn this from Jay. Right, sometimes

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Speaker 2: I wanted to I want my boy to go out bad.

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Speaker 1: Throw up.

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Speaker 4: You never came back. And I don't know this story,

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Speaker 2: But I have a similar story. I didn't know how

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Speaker 2: She's not singing, but I gave her melodically what she

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to give you her singing that.

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Speaker 2: And literally I just I did the same thing you did,

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Speaker 2: Like I don't know what. I don't know what to

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Speaker 1: We have people tell us that.

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Speaker 2: Our record save it from commit suicide. Just one of

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Speaker 2: That right, there was the gratitude success. That's success. That's

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Speaker 2: definitely success, and we answering. He says it so well.

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Speaker 2: He used to tell people because they would ask us like, like,

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Speaker 2: we don't measure our level of success by what we

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Speaker 2: If we're doing what he asked us to do or

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Speaker 2: the awards, the money, none of that stuff, obviously, because

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Speaker 1: Doing you know, some other stuff. I'd say that, but okay, yeah.

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Speaker 4: All right, all right, you know because use it.

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Speaker 3: It just would be the point where I ask, I'm

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Speaker 1: No it's not.

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Speaker 2: It's not everybody, but there are you know, there are

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Speaker 4: They're not doing gospel business.

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Speaker 2: It's questionable. But you know, to each his own, we

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Speaker 2: me and what.

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Speaker 3: They said about Big Reds books and the five Harties

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Speaker 3: about his questionable practices.

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Speaker 2: Question, that's funny, the five heart beats reference. But no,

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Speaker 2: not we're not following the trends. We're not trying to

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Speaker 2: that sounds like that. We've just always been like if

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Speaker 2: so many people that you know, even though even those

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Speaker 2: because of what you guys went through, you know, you're

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Speaker 2: able to hear that first hand. Yeah, you're able to

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Speaker 2: get those handshakes and hugs beat. They definitely say it

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Speaker 2: to us. I mean, and I think one of the

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Speaker 2: made me realize, oh so we were really making some noise.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget. We were on the third floor underdogs.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Teddy Riley came came to the studio. I never met.

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Speaker 2: Teddy Riley came to the studio. He's showing Dame is

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Speaker 2: something on some new keyboard thing. And as he's coming

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Speaker 2: Teddy Riley's one of the moment.

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Speaker 1: It's like that.

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Speaker 2: And and I went to introduce myself, like I'm Eric Dakers.

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Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I know who you are. I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know whoever?

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Speaker 2: Like yo, Me and my boys we listened to you

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Speaker 2: and your brother and Commission and the winers on our

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Speaker 2: tour bus all the time. That's all we listen to

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Speaker 2: on tour. I literally like, oh, okay, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna go home now. Nothing else.

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Speaker 2: If I'm good for life, I'm good like That was

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest compliments, Like to know that cats

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Speaker 2: like that listen to us and like he was a fan,

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Speaker 2: like a for real fan, And me and Teddy are

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Speaker 2: friends to this day from that moment, like like what

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Speaker 2: do you mean? You know, like literally Dawkins and Dawkins

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Speaker 2: Commission and the Winers was all they would listen to

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Speaker 2: that same thing from from Boys to Men told me

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Speaker 2: my dad put him on to Dawkins and Dawkins, like

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Speaker 2: he listened to Dawkins Dawkins as a kid, Like you know,

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Speaker 2: y'all are like the goats, your gospel legends.

439
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 4: Like like that's incredible, that's incredible.

440
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: To O Marion talking about, Yeah, my mom used to

441
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: play y'all stuff when she be cleaning up the house

442
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 2: like I've been. I've been a fan of y'alls for years,

443
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: Like I was like baby, actual baby, Like that kind

444
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 2: of stuff.

445
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: Hearing that they.

446
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: Realize how many how many people music touch and people

447
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: in other other spaces and other genres of music.

448
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: Or not even the music. I heard this one blew

449
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: my mind. Chante Moore a dear friend of mine, Now

450
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 2: she was married before like years we were. She she

451
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: would come hang out sometime when we come out here

452
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: with commission. So she's hanging out with one time and

453
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: her and her her former husband, they had a record store.

454
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 2: They on the record store and she told me that

455
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: were her husband at the time. He told me that

456
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: Wesley Snipes came in their store and bought like fifteen

457
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: of our CDs because he was a fan and he wanted.

458
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: To give Blade.

459
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: That's why I said, what dude, Wesley Snipes? It was

460
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: a Dawkins and Dawkins fan. You just never know, you

461
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: never know, you never know. I don't even get I

462
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: don't even get that when you know, when we don't

463
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: get the accolades and all that kind of stuff.

464
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: And that was like we're moving in some areas in

465
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: different spaces. Yeah, So.

466
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: Did you make the decision or did someone grab you

467
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: from the R and B world that that put you

468
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: into space where you know, you became this very sought

469
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 3: after vocal producer, producer, and ultimately you know, king songwriter

470
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 3: Like like like was it you know what I mean?

471
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: Like you know you had already did your thing in gospel.

472
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 3: You were all you know, you had, you had your

473
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: footprint in gospel.

474
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: It's this story goes back to when I lived in Detroit,

475
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 2: Me and a friend of mine named Chaka black Man. Okay,

476
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: he had he had a he used to do beats

477
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: and stuff in Detroit, and so I met him through

478
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 2: some mutual friends in Detroit. I think Marcus Divine introducers, Yeah,

479
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: the heat Miser. He introduced us and Gerald hadn't like

480
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: we were all we all ran together, Gerald Ditrich and

481
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 2: they all from Detroit.

482
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: All from Detroit, Okay, so they they.

483
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 4: They have amazing singers, Yeah, amazing.

484
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: So they introduced me in Chaka and and they were

485
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: doing stuff with Chaca. But Chaka he took a liking

486
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: to me. Like we started collaborating on stuff, and one

487
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: thing led to another.

488
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: We ended up he was doing R and B.

489
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: He wasn't doing no gospel. So I'm kind of literally

490
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: like kind of sneaking doing this, like writing love songs

491
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: that you write love songs, that's what you're doing. And

492
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: so I tried my hand at it and it was

493
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: like it it worked. So we ended up doing I

494
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: think one of the first R and B groups that

495
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: I worked with. You probably never heard the song was Brownstone.

496
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: Brownstone and a group called Solo. They did this this

497
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: wedding song that we wrote, So we ended up going

498
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: to Philly. We were at what's the the Main Well.

499
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: The popular studio there at the time was Will Smith

500
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: and all them cats. What I Forget Overhea Overbrook. We

501
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: worked out of Overbrook Studios. Did this duet with them.

502
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 2: That was my first ever R and B. I was

503
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: I was probably maybe twenty two, cause this is after

504
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: I moved to Detroit. So we traveling and doing stuff.

505
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: We travel to New York working with some other groups

506
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: and stuff. So that's when I really started doing R

507
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: and B. Probably ninety maybe ninety two, ninety three dish

508
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: cause I was still with Commission and doing stuff with Chaka.

509
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: So cut to like ninety five. Started having little little

510
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: issues with my first marriage, and uh then decided to

511
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: leave Detroit cause I was like, I got to get

512
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: out of here. I need a different a different scenery

513
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: because it's gone. I felt like it was gonna take

514
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: away take away who I was musically if I stayed there,

515
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: just because even the mentality in Detroit is crabbing a barrel.

516
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: Like not a lot of cats want to help each

517
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: other to get out. They trying to get out. But

518
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: everybody's me, me, me, every man for himself. But when

519
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: I found Chaka, he was like, hey, man, like, whatever

520
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: I'm working on, like you can work on with me,

521
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 2: And he had connections out here, so we ended up

522
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: coming out here, and after saying I would never move

523
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: to California like California New York, I was like, nah,

524
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: I'm good. Came out here going through the separation, divorce

525
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: or whatever, came out here in ninety six and never

526
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: looked back. Oh man, first deal I did out here,

527
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: we did a production deal me, Chaka and another friend

528
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: of our, Stephen Brown, did a deal with John McClain

529
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: a and M Records. That was our first production deal.

530
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: So I was here like and from then that led

531
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: to us working with Christine Aguilera on We ended up

532
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: co writing come on over Really Yeah, I correct?

533
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: You know, you know, you know when you meet somebody

534
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: and the other person that's like the introduce, the introducer

535
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: or I don't even know.

536
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 4: That's the actual work makes the uh.

537
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: That's for people that don't know in this industry, when

538
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: somebody's making an introduction, they're also giving off credits.

539
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 4: So it's like, oh yo, this is my god such

540
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: and such, who did you.

541
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying even even if they're even even

542
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: before if you don't hear them, or do hear them

543
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: when they just know they ran off your credits.

544
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 4: Because that's absolutely what my guy Ken.

545
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: Kenny through Chocka though, because Ken you to cut his hair.

546
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: That's how I knew Kenny. And so that whole connection,

547
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: like from Christina, like her first the Christmas record, I

548
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: did like five joints on the air and you beats

549
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: singing on Angels we have heard on high on that record.

550
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: And from there she wanted me to do all her

551
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: vocals for the Stript Records, So I did every song

552
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: that Scott Storch produced. I did the vocals for Christina.

553
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: And that's that's what got me into the pop world.

554
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: Ron Fair, Ron Fairs, He's He's the reason for me

555
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: being the pop pop guy. Like and that lasted for

556
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: a few years and then ran into Damon Met Damon

557
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: and from there went into the whole underdog situation.

558
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 4: What year did you start writing without it all?

559
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: It was two thousand, like two thousand and one. I

560
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: believe it was the year that how Are You Gonna

561
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: Act Like That? Came out?

562
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: That's when I you first got there.

563
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the first R and B song that

564
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: I wrote, like that got.

565
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 4: That, that's your first R and B hit, first hit?

566
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow after two thousand and two thousand and two.

567
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, in two thousand and two.

568
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: But in two thousand and one, I was also on

569
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 3: the next album after the album with I like them

570
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 3: girls on it. They're not on the same album two

571
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: thousand and one.

572
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: It was next.

573
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: This was the next album after that.

574
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: So no, no, it's interesting, man, because how all of

575
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: our paths crossed through that, Like obviously we had met

576
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: you know, you know before at the barbershop, and then

577
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: you had met Tank through you know, Commissioner, we said,

578
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: said having but obviously the way we truly connected and

579
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: our and we really created our brotherhood amongst us three

580
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: through the Underdogs.

581
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 4: Right, So the Underdog starts.

582
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: In ninety nine, Yeah, somewhere around in ninety eight, ninety nine,

583
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: and obviously we all know it starts with Damon Harvey

584
00:33:54,200 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: and myself. Interestingly enough, it turned into something later when

585
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 3: I left the first time where it became this super team.

586
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: When I came back and I meet you, I meet you.

587
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, It had become this like

588
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: Voltron you know what I'm saying, and this, you know,

589
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: this transformer of just amazingly talented guys that I could

590
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 3: have never imagined.

591
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 4: That's what it was going to turn into, you know

592
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 4: what I mean?

593
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: Because you know the the the initial startup was.

594
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 4: Dark Child. It was Rodney Freddie and Lashawn Damden. Harvey

595
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 4: were Rodney and Freddy and I was Lashawn Daniels. You

596
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, that's literally what the.

597
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: That's that's a great analogy.

598
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: I mean, because that's exactly what it was. You know

599
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, because I mean, because you know,

600
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: Harvey had come from Dark Child, so this is a

601
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 3: because it was of his mind of what we were

602
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 3: going into. Me and Damon were already working together. We

603
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: were already working together, and this you know, when Harvey

604
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 3: came to play basketball and then Damon stolen pretty much

605
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: That's how I looked at it. I was like, Yo,

606
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: he stole Harvey. Was like, I didn't even know Harvey did.

607
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what Harvey did. Later on I

608
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: find out that Harvey kind of stole us, you.

609
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 4: Know what I mean. Harvey came with the Dark Child sounds.

610
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: It's really great.

611
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now and now we was cracking.

612
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying because I like them girls?

613
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 4: Is one a Dark Child.

614
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: Record, absolut that funny story. Before you finished, I walked

615
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: into the studio Freddy and Lashawn were working on a

616
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: record with Destiny's Child for this some soundtrack, and y'ah

617
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: it's like, yo like them girls. That joint is sweet.

618
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 2: Promise on everything.

619
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: We were at.

620
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 4: I know the whole movie switched.

621
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: And listen ready at this at the console. Now were

622
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: boys like we family for years. They both looked like.

623
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: We didn't do that song, like sure did that's that's

624
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: yah sound y' y'a didn't do that. They was like, no,

625
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: we didn't do that. That's that Harvey Harvey and Damon.

626
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 2: I was like, no, that sounded like dark Child.

627
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: I would being petty, like, no, that's dark Child all day.

628
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: It sounds like guitars, the drums, like the all the

629
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: all has all the all the Dark Child elements. And

630
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: they was they knew somebody didn't know. So I was

631
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: like wow, because and I love the song like it was,

632
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: didn't take away.

633
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 4: From it was very low key until it wasn't.

634
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, because that record, that record, that record steam

635
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: rolled the music business and not not this is before

636
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: the record ever comes out. That record steam rolled the

637
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: music business. Multiple people bought that record, multiple people sang

638
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: that record, you know, and it was just it was

639
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: one of those things where it went to the highest bidder.

640
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: Tyres ended up being the highest bidder at the end

641
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: of the day. And but it was it made waves

642
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: like what is this because and this is something that

643
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: was different in that song too, was that Lashawan and

644
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: I were very different writers.

645
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

646
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we come from very different places.

647
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 4: Our mindsets were very different.

648
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 3: So it was a dark Child record with a very

649
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: aggressive top line. If you listen to that record, I'm

650
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: literally saying parking lot pimping, Like I say that, I

651
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: say that on an R and B song, you know

652
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, I'm like,

653
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: it's gonna be straight parking lot of pipping. So that

654
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: in itself too, made it like, Yo, this is way

655
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: more aggressive because Dark.

656
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: Child they were clean.

657
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: They were clean, and that's why they were so amazing too,

658
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 3: because it was like, yo, they're getting it off. They

659
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: are getting it off, and it can go in so

660
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: many places because it's so clean.

661
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 4: This was aggressive you know what I mean.

662
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 3: I like them girls was aggressive and it just gave

663
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: a different, you know, a different styling to loved it.

664
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: But they were, you know what, they had already done

665
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: love record. But we were absolutely stealing for sure. That's

666
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 3: a I mean, but that's a dark Child record.

667
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: But I mean, no, ain't no. But it was definitely.

668
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 4: I'm in there dancing.

669
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: Child.

670
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: It was.

671
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: It was definitely the best has the best, but it

672
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 2: was it was still a great song.

673
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: Like yeah, I know, people loved it. People loved it.

674
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: It's hard to like, stealing is one thing. Doing a

675
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: good job is another's another. It's definitely another that. Yeah,

676
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: I did a good job at that stealing.

677
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: It worked out.

678
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: It definitely worked out.

679
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: I got attracted to the movement with how You're Gonna

680
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: Act Like That? A lot of people tell me that

681
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: that's that's what That's what was part of me coming back.

682
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: That's what brought me to the book. Like that How

683
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: you Gonna Act Like That came out and me and

684
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: my guys are sitting there listening to him, like who

685
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: is that? He's like you think of Ciscoms, Like, nah,

686
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: it ain't Cisco. He ain't that clean and it was like,

687
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 2: it ain't a vun. I'm like, who is it? Somebody

688
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: was like, it could be Tyrese. I was like, nah,

689
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: terre saying nice like that. Then somebody said it is

690
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: tyr is it?

691
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: Who are you working with? How do you get that?

692
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 2: The sound was so y'all had Tyresse is such a

693
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: crazy space. Then I was like, because I've alread been,

694
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: Terry said already, you know we had already you know,

695
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: went back and forth with each other, had already.

696
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: Jumped on him. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

697
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 2: I was like, I know what he can do, e Coal.

698
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: He can't do this weird competition eat like me.

699
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 4: Though, but now he had just hit a game.

700
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: When he just hit how you gonna act like that?

701
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 7: It took him up. That's definitely. I was so mad.

702
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 7: I was like, who did it?

703
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: Who did it?

704
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: And that was also the establishment of what that sound became.

705
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 3: That was like that record established, Oh the Underdogs sounds different. Yeah,

706
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 3: when you brought me fully out of retirement and you said, Jay,

707
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 3: yeah you have to do the song with me at

708
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: the awards, Yeah, it's like showed up, showed up to

709
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 3: my house and my broke knee yeah, yeah, yeah, and he.

710
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 4: Was like, all right, Jay, go through it. A couple

711
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 4: of times. I am here. I just needed you to say.

712
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: You're gonna be fine. Yeah, like pick your breathing spots.

713
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: You're good, like.

714
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: No, Bro, Thank you though, yeah, thank you though. Because

715
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: you are, I should save you under confirmation. There is

716
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: no seriously, bro, your confirmation for a lot of things

717
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: and a lot of people than you. And I'm sure

718
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: you don't always hear that.

719
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: I think that's the first time.

720
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: Well you've heard it today on today like it, So

721
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: y'all better call him the confirmation.

722
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: So I'm doing it.

723
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: That's what you are, man.

724
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 2: Thank you.

725
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: That's what you are for for so many of us,

726
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: in so many If it's a song somebody plays you,

727
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: if it's the vocal that they think they're about to

728
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: go up there and sing for somebody, if you say

729
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: it's good, we're rolling, that's what's up.

730
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 4: So thank you, bro, that's what's up.

731
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: Thank you. Anytime you already know.

732
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 4: Do you like the piano that he's playing.

733
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: It's pretty stingy, pretty.

734
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: He is.

735
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 4: He as terrible as you were in London.

736
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: He's playing like you don't hear me talking.

737
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: It's not anywhere near the terrible.

738
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 4: I was like, don't you agree?

739
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: Yah?

740
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: He ate.

741
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 4: Showing up? Okay, Dame Dame, he's a day.

742
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 6: Time as a top five.

743
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmm your top five? Oh, your top five.

744
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: Top five?

745
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 4: I gotta find my white man beer.

746
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: Yes, I can't. Got Eric Talkin's top Heavy Talkinstopper, seas.

747
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 8: So Joe top top top five, Rick Taucus.

748
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 4: Who you like?

749
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: Who are you like? Who you like already?

750
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: Who you like?

751
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: Who?

752
00:43:48,719 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: Your top five? Your top five? Top God?

753
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: Oh man, Wow, that's definitely not to put that inn

754
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 2: put that in five.

755
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: That's my bottom.

756
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: The bottom ships.

757
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: Your top five R and B.

758
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 4: Song have to wipe his.

759
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: Man, that was funny. You made me sweat. I'm on

760
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: past it. Yeah, I got here my pastor rag just

761
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: in case, Just in case.

762
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: My top five R and B songs.

763
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 3: Yes, m we're going songs that we're gonna singers. Which

764
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: songs in their Yeah, we're going songs the first time

765
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: because everybody else gotta go singers first.

766
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: But you got songs.

767
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 4: You a man of the songs.

768
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: Top five R and B songs.

769
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: Past, present, and future, whenever you went your world future

770
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: mind your uh, I'll go ribbon in the sky. Mm hmm.

771
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: You gotta stay in my old, my old school bag,

772
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: song for you that you.

773
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: Have the way, Yeah, mm hmm, earth winding Fire, after

774
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: the love is gone.

775
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 4: You going there? Yeah, you're going there.

776
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I gotta give these These are foundational,

777
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: they are building blocks. They are cornerstones of all R

778
00:45:51,880 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: and B today two more uh and this is probably

779
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: it just had some sentimental value to me. Algebra after all,

780
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: hm hmmm, after all. Yeah, I won't be the one.

781
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: I don't be the one the hold you in my

782
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: in my I just it's something about that record. It's

783
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: nostalgic for me. So anytime I hear it, I literally

784
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: transport back to you. The first time I heard it,

785
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 2: And yeah, I was making out with the older woman.

786
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 4: Ah my, hey yeah, hey, lift this off right now.

787
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 4: Was she quite a cougar?

788
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: She was? She wasn't even she wasn't that much. She

789
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 2: was probably she probably had me by like seven years,

790
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: seven eight years, But I was. I was a teenager,

791
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: So that's that's yeah, that's fine.

792
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, that's fine.

793
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 4: Did you have a car?

794
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: I did, but she did. As long as she did,

795
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: you know.

796
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 3: She got more respected, you know, because guys had a car,

797
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: come pick me up.

798
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can do a guy. Yeah.

799
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. For the world.

800
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 2: That the word for the world and everything.

801
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: You had a curl too, no, not to hang.

802
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 2: I had the curl on top of my commission days.

803
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: It was curly on the top fade. Oh yeah, yeah,

804
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: I was official. I got to see those photos. You

805
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: got number five, number five, hm hmm. It's so hard

806
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: because I love so many songs. But and and this

807
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: this will be after preface this one. Get here if

808
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: you can, Leader Adams.

809
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: Up ball.

810
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 4: That song is incredible.

811
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: I have a.

812
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: Story and she's not even the original one. Brenda Russell

813
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: did that first. Alida covered it, but her version of it,

814
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: just like Olida Adams called me her vocal mate.

815
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: Hmmm.

816
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: And it it changed. It changed my life to hear

817
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: her say that to me, Like I did a song

818
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: with her on this gospel record that she did called

819
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: come and Walk with Me on the Water, And I'm

820
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: singing on the song with her on her record and

821
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: she called me her vocal mate. So yeah, wow. And

822
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: I was a fan of verse from that Get here

823
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: if you can, and so meeting her was one of

824
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 2: those moments. But that song is it's another one that transports.

825
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: So okay, all right, Yeah, you're Top five R and

826
00:48:53,400 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: B singers, Top five R and B singers, Stevie Wonder Yeah,

827
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: Charlie Wilson, mhm, he.

828
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: Like my daddy, take that.

829
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: Take that? Oh Joe mm hmm, love Joe, just clean.

830
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 4: Your kind of get mentioned enough.

831
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: Definitely Bestow.

832
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 4: When he go to the upper room too.

833
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: Oh it's lights out that he's singing in his natural

834
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: naturally y.

835
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, I was like, bro, are you

836
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 1: really going to do right?

837
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: Are you going to do that tonight? He said, I

838
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: gotta do it. Move like that.

839
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 1: That's it in full voice.

840
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 8: Bro.

841
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: Hate him?

842
00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, the real bad He's made it.

843
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: Man, listen you old man.

844
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: You're on my list. Thank you, brother, You're definitely on

845
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 2: my list. Number five, she's not well, I mean, Brandy

846
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: gotta be Brandy. I gotta put her in my top five.

847
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:42,959
Speaker 3: It's Brandy as as as two young men who grew

848
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 3: up in the church.

849
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 4: Is Brandy the closest thing to church?

850
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 3: And R and B for y'all, for y'all, no, no,

851
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: because I feel like I'm gonna tell you who.

852
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, it's two of them. It's two fantasi

853
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 2: for sure, and jazz them. Yep.

854
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: The closest thing to church, and it starts with Aretha Franklin.

855
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: Definitely choice.

856
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: But there there today there descendants of their direct descendants

857
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: of the Franklin.

858
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: They can do everything.

859
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: Because I feel like I feel like the church vocalists,

860
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 3: the true church vocals. They always mentioned Brandy, She's always mentioned. Yeah,

861
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 3: like even just in conversation, I forget our show, just

862
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: in conversation that when when you start talking about the

863
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: vocal that they will never.

864
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 4: Leave, say, Brandy is the RS.

865
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: She's the R and B version of Kim Barell.

866
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, she started patting herself after Kim.

867
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: That's what she is.

868
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: So for anybody was listening to R and B, you

869
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: had never heard Kim Barell before in your life, you

870
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: didn't know where those patterns were coming from me, you

871
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So Brandy was where people were

872
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: getting those undescribable, unrecognizable alien type patterns.

873
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 4: I heard Brandy before I heard Kim Barrell.

874
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Brandy came out before I heard Kim Barrell,

875
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: before I heard Kim Berrell trading. I heard Kimbrell first

876
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: and then and then overlapped with Brandy, and I was like,

877
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: so as I'm learning Kim Burrell learning how to do

878
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: it down in that trinity, I'm looking at him like

879
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I said, you got it. I just

880
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: listen to Brandy every day. Yeah, literally every definitely, yeah,

881
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: I said, oh yeah. And then the production so the

882
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 2: Crouches was on something. It was definitely on something was

883
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 2: it was on there. I didn't really like the song

884
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: that Damon did though, I ain't go I ain't on front,

885
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: what's on with that?

886
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: What's over that?

887
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: Because it was one that was the scale was a

888
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: little different the way she was singing against what he

889
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: was playing.

890
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: So I didn't really I remember that was that was

891
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: her my least all the funk on that album.

892
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 9: And some of the people and some of the peoples

893
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 9: and fuzzy yeah arrest, so that thank.

894
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: You.

895
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: That was the old funk. When I talk about band work,

896
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: it is still all of that.

897
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 4: I can see that.

898
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was her vocal mixed with that.

899
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: Nobody was doing that.

900
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: So crazy, like if you hear her vocal on that,

901
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: like when she's singing it live. I met Brandy when

902
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 2: she was she was on tour Boys Men and Warren

903
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: was playing. He was in the band, and he introduced

904
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: me to Brandy. We were in Milwaukee. He was doing

905
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: a play and here they were playing, like maybe two

906
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: blocks away from where we were playing.

907
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: So I went over there.

908
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: D Lo was playing drums, Corne on bass, Dave forming

909
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: on guitar.

910
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: This band was crazy.

911
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: They was done.

912
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: So took me over there.

913
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 2: And you know, Brandy, she's a she's a singer junkie,

914
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: like she loves somebody that could sing. So one was like,

915
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: it's my boy air DWK. It's like he sings and stuff,

916
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: and he's in this play down the street. She was like,

917
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: for real, sing something. You know, she's young, Brandy, like

918
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: she's all getting She she says, sing something. I sang

919
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: a song for you. When I tell you, Brandy almost

920
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: busted my lip.

921
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: Running at me like, oh my god, you're so dumb.

922
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: So from that moment we became like really close, Like

923
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 2: she gave me her number. We would call and call

924
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: each other. And she came to Detroit doing the State Fair,

925
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: and so I went and hung out with her and stuff.

926
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: So I went took her to her hotel to get something,

927
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: and as we were walking down the hall, she was like,

928
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: I need to do something. I need some different stuff.

929
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: Give me something to sing on on the baby, Baby Baby.

930
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: It's like so one of the verses.

931
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 5: Like come to my mind.

932
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: Something something like that, like to change up the way

933
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 2: she sings. And I kept singing it over and over

934
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: to her. So literally, every time I would see her

935
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: singing that song, like when she was on TV, she

936
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: would do that part. And she'll tell you to this day.

937
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: Whenever she sings it, she does those little things that

938
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 2: I gave her back in ninety four ninety five. You

939
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: got a little you got a little intricate detailing. It's

940
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 2: just a little thing. It's a little thing that's changing

941
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: of when you do it. It's timing and placement. It's

942
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: so meticulous, bro, It's it's pretty stupid. That's my girl.

943
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: Let's get to your vote, true man, We're gonna field

944
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 2: your R and B artist. You're perfect R and B artist. Okay,

945
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: Where you gonna get the vocal from the performance style,

946
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: from the styling and the passion of the artist. Let's

947
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 2: start with the vocal. Vocal mm hm, you can pick

948
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 2: yourself too.

949
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 4: If you want to R and B singer.

950
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: Basically, I mean I I I didn't want to. I

951
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: didn't want to say it, but since you said I could,

952
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: I was gonna pick somebody else. But I would absolutely

953
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: have to be the vocal.

954
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can have an ego sometimes.

955
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: Listen, I ain't nobody saying nothing.

956
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even I don't call it ego.

957
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 2: I just I'm really confident in what I do.

958
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: I feel like everything I got versus the same, on

959
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 3: a versus note fight. That man got that man got

960
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: tone to that man got patience.

961
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 4: He can sing a verse, he can.

962
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: Sing a verse.

963
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 3: All you great singers, you see what my finger just

964
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 3: did doing all the foolishness.

965
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 4: Can't get through the verse. You gotta be able to

966
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 4: get through the verse.

967
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: Story.

968
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: Talk to the story. He knows what's about the story.

969
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 3: And he ain't gonna miss and if he do miss,

970
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 3: he gonna bring it back around like.

971
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: We almost recover.

972
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 4: I wanted to tell him he missed.

973
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell him.

974
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: You missed right there. You are human, human, Absolutely get

975
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: take the vocal. You understand I'm gonna take it.

976
00:57:59,120 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

977
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: Performance style, performance style on stage mm hmm.

978
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: Usher mm hmm.

979
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should be getting usher cutting a rug any

980
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: roller skate yeah you can?

981
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: Can you sing and rollerskate?

982
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: Never never tried it, but every time I see it, I'm.

983
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: Like, fool up there, roller skating singing like it's nothing.

984
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 4: Getting busy though, like it's regular like getting busy.

985
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, USh is great usher styling the drip. Let

986
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: I just put that on for you styling.

987
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 4: Hm, it's.

988
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: Probably I'm so not a suit and tie type guy,

989
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: but somebody that's clean every time they perform its.

990
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 4: Neo lell be flying flying suits, he getting busy.

991
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: Getting I like.

992
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: I like the way he I mean, he's so confident

993
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: about everything that he does when he's I think when

994
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: he looks like that, it's like his hat, his brim

995
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: is right, and the suit he does.

996
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 4: Is very fly. Yeah, it's very Vegas.

997
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 1: It's very Vegas. It's very shell. It's very shell.

998
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: I like that. The passion of the artist heart regret

999
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 2: mm hmm, you sweat mm hmm, or shall I shout

1000
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: hold on a few people coming to mind? And I

1001
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: guess because of how I feel her when she sings,

1002
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: it's Jasmine Sullivan like mm hm, oh yeah. The passion

1003
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: she sings with like you. You believe she's gone through

1004
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: everything that she's singing every ounce of it.

1005
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: Since she's no.

1006
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: You still yeah, she's I believe everything she sings. I

1007
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 2: love that.

1008
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: Vout Trump, Yeah, I love that. That is.

1009
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: My vote. Try that sword.

1010
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 4: My piano player gotta get got it, you know what

1011
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 4: I mean? My organ is in st quiet an organ.

1012
01:00:52,520 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: But I'm nervous. I'm saying no names, lady, no names.

1013
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying no name, say no name, but you did.

1014
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: Don't say she no name, saying no.

1015
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 4: Saying so beautiful, don't you?

1016
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: You got themes on for every segment that is amazing.

1017
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,959
Speaker 1: This guy's great man. You just take that on the road.

1018
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 1: This guy's great man. Oh sho oh man.

1019
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 3: You know what that leads to the You know that

1020
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 3: I ain't saying no names part of the show, the

1021
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 3: portion of the show, the portion you know where the

1022
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 3: story can be funny, are fucked up?

1023
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1024
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 4: Are funny and fucked up?

1025
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: You hear me?

1026
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1027
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 3: And your and it can be from your gospel day,

1028
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 3: it can be from the R and B day.

1029
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: You got days, you got days? Okay, you could be

1030
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: from the soundtrack day, you got days. Maybe you got

1031
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: days for days. You got days for days.

1032
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 4: The only ruling I can't say no, I can't say, well,

1033
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 4: let me know when you're read.

1034
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 2: They leave that story out.

1035
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

1036
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: Said who you was? We she can't say that that

1037
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: what you did.

1038
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 4: I can't say no that.

1039
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 2: If I said, you don't know who it is, I

1040
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: mean anybody, I don't know what it's called.

1041
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 4: You ain't say no, no, you put no face with

1042
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 4: the case, so.

1043
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: Saying you can get it off.

1044
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 4: Let me know when you're ready, you let me.

1045
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1046
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 4: You're the proper introduction.

1047
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: Okay, you're ready. It's just this just be a funny one, okay.

1048
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 3: Okay, So right now, this is Eric Dawkins of Dawkins

1049
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 3: and Dawkins. You know what, his brother might not like

1050
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 3: the story he gonna tell because he ain't had to

1051
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 3: do with it, because we ain't saying no names. But

1052
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 3: it's still Eric Dawkins of Dawkins and Dawkins, the underdog himself,

1053
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 3: here to tell us an amazing story.

1054
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 4: But he does not say anything. He doesn't Eric Dawkins anyone.

1055
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: So I used to be a part of a group,

1056
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 2: a group of guys, and we had this little game

1057
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,479
Speaker 2: that we would play. First of all, you don't never

1058
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: want to be the first one to walk in the

1059
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: building when the group of us is together, because ultimately

1060
01:03:54,080 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 2: somebody's going to yell something out and hide behind the corner. So,

1061
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: oh whatever they say, it's all you when you come

1062
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: in the building. And normally it's the lobby is full

1063
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 2: of people. It has to be somewhere that's crowded, so

1064
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: you gonna get that look like either you're crazy or

1065
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: or they think you about to shoot up the place

1066
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 2: or something. It's always always a game. So it's one

1067
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 2: particular time we were at a at a show and

1068
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: I'll i'll give you some some examples of how the

1069
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 2: game goes or and you really it's just you saying

1070
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: the craziest thing, and they don't have to be walking

1071
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 2: into the building, but just just saying the craziest thing,

1072
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 2: like and putting putting everybody in a really funky situation.

1073
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: So this one particular guy who was walking on the

1074
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 2: beach in the Bahamas. So this yoked up guy who

1075
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: was you know, doing some some workout, and so he

1076
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 2: walks up to him and he's not he ain't cut

1077
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 2: up or nothing, but he walks up to this guy

1078
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 2: and it's like, y, you work out a lot high,

1079
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: you're pretty big, and he was like yeah, it's like

1080
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 2: how much you how much you bench? I don't know,

1081
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: three fifty four hundred, Like really, hm, I whooped your

1082
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: butt all up and down this beach. And the guys

1083
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 2: were like and the guy looked at him like oh really.

1084
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 2: So he starts getting this up together cause you think

1085
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: you know, and he's like, nah, man, I'm just playing.

1086
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm just playing and playing.

1087
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 2: So that kind of stuff just out of the out

1088
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: of the blue, just say something the craziest thing you

1089
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 2: was say or do something. So this particular time, we're

1090
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,479
Speaker 2: at a show and I ain't gonna say no names,

1091
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 2: but one person who kind of self proclaimed as the

1092
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 2: king of the game, uh, was leaning over a balcony

1093
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: you could see over into the lobby of the venue.

1094
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: Lobby was feeling up cause it was almost sheltered. So

1095
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: he's leaning over his balcony and if you look up

1096
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: you can see him. So he was kind of not

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01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 2: trying to be too seen, but kind of seen. So

1098
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, oh my god, this is the perfect opportunity.

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01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: I am about to let him have it, and I'm

1100
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: looking around for the other fellas nobody is anywhere to

1101
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 2: be found, and I think I gotta do this before

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01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 2: he moves because I missed the moment. So I sneak

1103
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 2: up behind him and he's leaning on the on the

1104
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 2: banister and with all my weight, I wasn't too much,

1105
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't that big, but I leaned on him and

1106
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: in the most obnoxious imitation of his voice I could do.

1107
01:06:51,880 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: I said, in my amrody may the bolted, not gonna

1108
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 2: say no names. But this person literally fell back, almost

1109
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: choked laughing. Of course, the people looked up at him, like.

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01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: Why would you.

1111
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 2: I ran back to the guys like I am truly

1112
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 2: the king of this game from this day. For he

1113
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: walks in the room like you got me, you have

1114
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 2: the crown. Now you are to this day Like if

1115
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: I mentioned it, I'm the reigning king of the game

1116
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: with guys, and.

1117
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: So you have to embarrass them. I had to.

1118
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 2: You have to embarrass the person. A couple of guys

1119
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 2: were put out. They they took themselves out of the

1120
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: game because it was getting too bad for super embarrassing.

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01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: I think answer was the first person that took himself

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01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: out of the game. Were so this, uh, this one

1123
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: person took themselves out of the game. This one, this

1124
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 2: one guy took himself out of the game because we're

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01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis and we go into this restaurant, a famous

1126
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 2: restaurant in Minneapolis, and he's hungry.

1127
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: So he's trying to like get.

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01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 2: Off the bus, I'm ready to eat, opens the door

1129
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: and walks in and somebody yells, hey, y'all, I'm hungry.

1130
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: Like there happened to be two police officers right there

1131
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 2: and they turn around, look and literally had the hands

1132
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 2: on it. Like he said, Okay, I'm I'm done. I'm

1133
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: done with the game. Don't don't play that with me.

1134
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 2: The second one, which was funny, we had a rest

1135
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 2: stop somewhere on the turnpike, and the way to get

1136
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 2: over to the rest area that the like the store

1137
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 2: or whatever, there's a walkway over the freeway. It's kind

1138
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: of a nice little walk. So one one guy in

1139
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 2: the band, he had to go to the bathroom like

1140
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 2: really bad, like, so he had a little we called

1141
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: it a scootie walk, like you kind of clinching. Yeah.

1142
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: The turtlehead man.

1143
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 2: So he there's these two older white people that are

1144
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 2: coming towards us, so he's in a hurry. He walks

1145
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 2: through the door and somebody else move out my way.

1146
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: I got a doodo.

1147
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: These two old people literally stopped and man.

1148
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: He got back on the bus. I'm out the game.

1149
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 2: The idea was to swell somebody so bad that they

1150
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 2: get out the game. So I think I was the

1151
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 2: last one to actually do. I was the one to

1152
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: swell the person who I won't say what name it is,

1153
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 2: and that kind of ended the game for that where ended.

1154
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 2: I came out on top trumpet. Good job, Eric, I

1155
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: ended the game. Name starting it around here. Yo. It's

1156
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 2: really funny though, like you're doing right. You're just so

1157
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 2: anxious to go into a building and you didn't. You

1158
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: ain't paying attention. You just walk in and somebody throw

1159
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 2: that voice out with you. Yeah, that's excited. My name

1160
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 2: is myrtle, some foolishness. It's fun Eric Dawkins, my brother, comrade,

1161
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 2: my teacher.

1162
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: Familia, familia.

1163
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 2: We thank you, man, absolutely, thank you man. You You

1164
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: know I can't I can't say enough good things about you.

1165
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 2: I don't have one bad thing to say about you ever,

1166
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 2: not a one.

1167
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: I love y'all.

1168
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 2: Cast man, brother. This is the way the way I

1169
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 2: was raised. Yeah, yeah, folks, they did a really good job. Amazing,

1170
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: amazing job. It's so funny. I told him one time.

1171
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 2: It's when I was getting a little, a little bold

1172
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 2: and on my own.

1173
01:10:59,120 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 1: I'm grown.

1174
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: I called my mom and dads like, you know what,

1175
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 2: y'all did a hell of a job raising me. I

1176
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: said that to the to the bishop wife, and it's like, well, wow, okay, yeah,

1177
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 2: thank you. They didn't know I responded that, but I

1178
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 2: meant it just like that. That's how I had to

1179
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 2: tell them, because you know, I'm out here in Cali.

1180
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm doing my thing. I ain't in trouble with with nobody.

1181
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: Ain't got no enemies. I'm just, you know, based on

1182
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: how they raised me and my brother, Like, I just

1183
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 2: love people, So I make it a point to be

1184
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 2: as consistent and open honest with everybody, Like you don't

1185
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 2: have to wonder what I think about you, Like good,

1186
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 2: badd and different. You're gonna know, but I'm always gonna

1187
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 2: be the same, the same.

1188
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah no, And why while we're here, man, I want

1189
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 3: to I want to say thank you to both of y'all.

1190
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 4: For two things.

1191
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 3: One making me better singer, and y'all know I you know,

1192
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not the singer singer like I sing

1193
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 3: because I have a gift and I love to sing,

1194
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 3: but I'm not like a singer singer.

1195
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 4: But being so, I don't sing a lot. I don't.

1196
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 4: You'll never just catch me walking down the street singing.

1197
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 4: It's not me.

1198
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 3: But being around y'all, working with y'all, it made me

1199
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 3: perfect my craft. It made me to work on my

1200
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 3: craft and even care about it to be like, you know,

1201
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 3: these niggas are so good.

1202
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: I got it.

1203
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 3: You know that's a chopping So I thank y'all for

1204
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,839
Speaker 3: that one and two for singing at my father's funeral.

1205
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 3: You you speaking at the funeral, You know what I'm saying,

1206
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 3: and that like obviously you know most people be like Bro,

1207
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 3: we brothers, and but that's still a thing man, where

1208
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 3: it's like you have to sit back and truly appreciate

1209
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 3: it and say thank you because it really meant a

1210
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:00,799
Speaker 3: lot to me and my family.

1211
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: And I appreciate y'all more than more than Welcome bro.

1212
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 3: And thank you for coming and doing the podcast with us,

1213
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 3: and you know, anointing us. You know what I mean,

1214
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 3: we probably selling cuss words on here because we didn't

1215
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 3: cuss when I was here.

1216
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 4: But I don't do R and B.

1217
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: You do R and B.

1218
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 3: You with us, y'all know I can't. I kept it

1219
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 3: fully clean. Well, Ike was here, but you do R

1220
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 3: and B. So you know you know I bout a

1221
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 3: cus't gonna do it.

1222
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 2: You save, you saved. My name is Valentine and this

1223
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: is the Army Money podcast. Their hold all things R

1224
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 2: and B.

1225
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: And this has been our brother man.

1226
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 2: This has been one of the most amazing human beings

1227
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 2: to emigrade the universe. Man. And and that's how I'm

1228
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 2: gonna leave me, mister Aaron Thumpers.

1229
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, your favorite singer.

1230
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, R and B Money.

1231
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 3: R and B Money is a production of the Black

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01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:10,320
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01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:18,120
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01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,400
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