1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Hey, this is and I'm welcome to stuff. I never 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: told your protection of I heart radio. So any I 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: have a few questions for you, just to actually and 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm feeling already no, yes, each other very well surprises 5 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, I will say that. Yeah, that's true. 6 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: But have you ever been in a musical? I? Oh 7 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: my gosh, I have really and it was a cindere 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: Elebors musical. Okay, who was this What part did you play? 9 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: I was in high school. And it's funny because I 10 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: actually auditioned for this role because I didn't want to 11 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: go to band practice that day. That's the only reason 12 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: I went. So I was very unprepared and it's one 13 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: of the worst auditions I did in my entire life. 14 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: And I shudder to think of it. But I auditioned 15 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: for the role of Bruna Hilda, who was one of 16 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: the step sisters. I did not get it, but I 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: got like random ball goer that was like all judgmental background. Yeah, 18 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: but it was a musical. I don't remember any of 19 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: the songs. Well's the second question, and I do know this. 20 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite musical that you go back 21 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: to and love? As you know, musicals make me a 22 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: little nervous. People spontaneously singing makes me nervous, which is 23 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: why I think one of the reasons I love Hamilton's 24 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: because it's singing all throughout and there's not like really talking, 25 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: so it's just music. It's the switch from talking to 26 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: singing that gets really okay that I didn't know about you. 27 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't quite understand that, but okay, okay, okay. 28 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like it's automatically too cheesy. No, it's 29 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: really funny. Because Eves of female first and our friend 30 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: of ours, she was talking about her love of music 31 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: goals and I love that you too share and she 32 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: said something that she doesn't like superhero movies because she 33 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: can't suspend her disbelief. I feel like I can't suspend 34 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: my disbelief when people just start seeing and that's fair. 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: I think it's definitely you're not the only one. And 36 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: I think she had a back and forth about not 37 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: sure she loved musicals or not she because we also 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: talked about what we are talking about today, which is 39 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: Cinderella and the it's the Brandy editions of the nine 40 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Cinderella made for TV movie during the Wonderful World of 41 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Disney presentations that happened on Sunday nights, and I was 42 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: very excited the minute it was advertised that it would 43 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: be coming out and streaming through Disney Plus. I automatically 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: it was like, holy crap, Yes, here we go. So 45 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: just so you know, it is a throwback. Obviously it's 46 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: been twenty four years and they had this whole like 47 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: get together reunion for the cast when it was the 48 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: twenty year anniversary. Of course it did not have Whitney Houston, 49 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: but it was such a fun time stick read when 50 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: I was going back to research this movie just a 51 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: little bit. So yes, it is a very much of 52 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: a throwback. And I have been a lifelong fan of Brandy. 53 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: I believe I've made you listen to Brandy because you 54 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: didn't know any of your songs that I was very 55 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: upset and I made you listen to it at the 56 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: Beach House, and of saying all throughout the Beach House. 57 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: By the way, Moitia, which is where her career kind 58 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: of started, was her show, her sitcom, and it was 59 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: coming around the same time as Family Matters was coming through, 60 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: so it was kind of having this uprise of seeing 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: black families as a part of the community, especially in 62 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: the sitcom community, and her show one of my favorites 63 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: and I watched it all the time. Definitely had her 64 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: cassette tape, the Brandy cassette tape, and listen to it 65 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: all the freaking time. She really was one of my favorites. 66 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, today we're talking about the nineties classic remake 67 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: of Rogers and Hammerstein. Uh, Cinderella, starring Brandy as the 68 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: titular of Cinderella and also Whitney Houston as the fairy 69 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: godmother as well as fact this is actually her part 70 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: of her productions. And yes, I was like, hey, Annie, 71 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: you know how we said that we're gonna do this 72 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: one movie. Nope, we're changing it completely and we're gonna 73 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: do this movie for actually in this movie Friday. And yeah, 74 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot to be said in conversation. Of course, 75 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: I feel like everybody knows the plot. We are going 76 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about it, but yeah, I 77 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: think it's pretty well renowned. I think so we've talked 78 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, are one of our book up 79 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: picks was a different take on Cinderella, so he does 80 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: in this show. I've talked about it more than once. 81 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: There's definitely a lot of renditions, and we're gonna talk 82 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: about that as well. But I think I just loved 83 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 1: everything about this musical and I am a die hard 84 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: fan of musicals. I grew up loving and appreciating it 85 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: because I was in chorus and I did sing a 86 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: lot as a kid. That was one of my favorite 87 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: things to do. My family is very musical, and though 88 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: we don't go out breaking out in song to talk 89 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: about our emotions, who we did. I've actually made that 90 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: comment to most of my cynical friends and they're like 91 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: Smith and must dumb stop it that I wish I 92 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: could just break out in song when I'm sad or 93 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 1: happy whatever, and I do. I do, as as people 94 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: I think I've already heard on our show. I do 95 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: come up with them singing, unless our producers edited out 96 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: because they're like Smith, this is ridiculous. But yeah, I 97 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: do love the whole thing. And my favorite actual musical 98 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: is Lams. It's always been one of my favorites, and 99 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: I think I loved it because the first rendition of 100 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: Lama's that I saw the character of Epenine, who actually 101 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: was a woman of Asian descent playing this character and 102 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: I've never seen I don't think I've adver seen that, 103 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: and up until like my high school, middle school years, 104 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: i've seen this rendition. I think it was a PBS 105 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: rendition of this musical and it was so fantastic. It 106 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: got me in the gut and I loved it. So 107 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: Lamis has always been one of my faves. Actually read 108 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: that in middle school. Great book too, But like everything 109 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: about musicals, it just gives me. I love it. I 110 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: love music that makes me want to dance. I love 111 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: music that makes you want to move. I love music 112 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: that makes me feel things like I appreciate Taylor Swift. 113 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: She gets me in the gut. I really wish I 114 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: was a teenager listening to this once again, but I 115 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: do love. There was a skit. I don't know if 116 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: you watched the S and L skit with Driver's License, 117 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: which is I would be a Rodrigo and her song 118 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: and they're like, it just gives me. Her words are 119 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: like I loved it because I feel like it's so honest. 120 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if mender that, but I'm like I 121 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: had this moment as an adult, think like, oh, she's 122 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: got all the fields. This is about a sixteen year old. 123 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: I am definitely old enough to be her mother, like right, 124 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: But that's what's what I love about musicals, and I 125 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: love seeing choreography, I love seeing dance. I was really 126 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: excited about what this representative as well. But yes, as 127 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: you can tell, I am a huge fan of this 128 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: movie and we're getting started right now. Yes, and also 129 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: just a note podcast on her network, the beg gil Cast. 130 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: I was so because, like we had talked about doing 131 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: it and then they came out with it. I was like, 132 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: son of Okay, they bot us to the punch. Well 133 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: we'll probably have a slightly different take, you know, we 134 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: will have a very different take, a guarantee. Okay, Well 135 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: there you go. So, yes, let's discuss this film or 136 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: in Death, which I just watched last night for the 137 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: first time. Yes, so it's fresh on my mind. We 138 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: are talking about the Broadway musical version of Rogers and 139 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: Hammersteon Cinderella created for Network TV, starring yes, the amazing 140 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: Whitney Houston as the Fairy Godmother and Brandy as the 141 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: role of Cinderella. It's funny because looking back, my family 142 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: only had the one TV and I remember the commercials 143 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: for this and I was vetoed. But I remember being like, oh, 144 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: you want to watch it? I was a man. This 145 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: should have not been something that I enjoyed as much 146 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: as I did, because I was seventeen when this about. 147 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: But I loved it. Hey, I can't help it. I 148 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: am who I am, You are who you are. So 149 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: the original TV version was portrayed by Julie Andrews, which 150 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: aired in nineteen fifty seven, and again by Leslie and Warren, 151 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 1: which was successful and ran annually from nine to nineteen 152 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: seventy two on CBS. It was so successful they had 153 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: over seventy million viewers, and so they kept replaying uh huh, 154 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: and it was a huge success. Uh. The actual movie, 155 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: the one we're talking about today, the nine ninety seven classic, 156 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: was aired in November nineteen ninety seven, but actually it 157 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: was in talks to be created and uh filmed as 158 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: early as nineteen ninety two, with the original idea that 159 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: Whitney Houston would play the main character of Cinderella, but 160 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: due to a different setbacks, it never came before wishing 161 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: and when it finally did come together, faced in part 162 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: to the Walt Disney Company's desire to relaunch The Wonderful 163 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: World of Disney anthology, which included live action movies like 164 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: Peter Pan as well as the old school Cinderella, would 165 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: be aired over CBS or you know, one of the 166 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: main networks. Brandy was brought on to play the iconic 167 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: role thanks to Whinney using herself, who actually gave her 168 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,479 Speaker 1: a call, a personal call to ask her to be Cinderella, 169 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: and of course she agreed. Uh, Brandy agreed very excited. 170 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: Her little interview about begetting that call was really precious. Also, 171 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: at that point in time, it was discussed that Whitney 172 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: would play the Fairy Godmother since she had aged out 173 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: of the role of Cinderella. Also, the movie included the 174 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: wonderful Whoopi Goldberg and her comedic timing is so fun. 175 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: I just love it. I think this is where she 176 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember if she got her in primetime Emmy, 177 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: which is how she got her egott. Oh yes, yes, yes. 178 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: She portrayed Queen Constantina. Victor Garber, who was a big 179 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: Broadway player as well as I see him on different 180 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: things now, played King Maximilian. Bernardette Peters, another big Broadway star, 181 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: plays the Evil Stepmother, and then Paulo Montoban as Prince 182 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: Christopher and of course Jason Alexander of Seinfeld as the 183 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: valet Lionel. Yeah. That was a big surprise to me 184 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: because you I think you told me about everybody else. 185 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: If you did, it did not register because I laughed 186 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: so hard and I'm just like what Like, he apparently 187 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: jumped at the chance. He was one of the first 188 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: ones to sign on because he was so excited to 189 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: do a musical because that's kind of one of his backgrounds. 190 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: But he had been a part of the Seinfeld world, 191 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: which he was, you know, garnering so much fame. But 192 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: also it made me excited to see him in this 193 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: role because I had seen him previously in Pretty Woman 194 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: and he's such an awful character yea that this kind 195 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: of redeemed him from me. Yeah. Yeah, Well it's I 196 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: don't know the name of the actress, but the redheaded 197 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: step sister. She was in Seinfeld and her episode is 198 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: kind of infamous to me because like, the backstory behind 199 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: it is really tragic and it was just something writers 200 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: were talking about, Oh, women are thinking on different levels. 201 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: How interesting. I think it was Yanne Cox who was Calliope. Yeah, 202 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: she's uh in an episode of Seinfeld, and I was 203 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: just like, oh, yeah, I mean this was this was 204 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: the year Seinfeld was ending. So I guess they were, 205 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, trying to find new things. She was a 206 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: ballet dancer too, he was. He had he had the moves. No, no, no, 207 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: not v Cox, but she also had the moves. Everybody 208 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: had good moves. I was impressed, you know what. Like 209 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: he definitely Jason Alexander is definitely a man of many talents. Yes, 210 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: that's how you should introduce himself. Yeah. So, Houston was 211 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: also a co producer alongside with producers of Gypsy, which 212 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: had been a successful television adaption that aired in E. 213 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: Craig's Don and Neil Maron and though at first there 214 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: were some mixed reviews, one because of the casting of 215 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: Brandy and Whitney Houston, but two also because the more modern, 216 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: slightly feminist edged the movie, it clearly since then, as 217 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: like so many movies we talked about on here, has 218 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: gained a lot of love. Right. But yeah, it was 219 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: successful nonetheless, like you said, with one of the highest 220 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: viewerships in decades. It had the highest Sunday night ratings 221 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: and was one of the most watched musicals at that time, 222 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: and apparently the cost of production was ten million dollars, 223 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: which is really really high at that time. They were 224 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: talking about how amazing the scenes were and how great 225 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: the castle was, and they're like, oh, okay, we're showing 226 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: out the big books. This was how they said it. 227 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: And they also did earn many nominations and awards, including 228 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: seven Primetime Emmys, Writers Guild of America, three in double 229 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: A CP Image Awards, and a few others. So yeah, 230 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: they were able to stay it on their own. Yeah. Absolutely. 231 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: But now let's talk about the plot. Wait, first, let's 232 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: pose for a quick break for working for our sponsor, 233 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: and we're back. Thank you sponsor. So, as we said, 234 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: a lot of you are probably pretty familiar with the 235 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: story of Cinderella, but for this specific version, we begin 236 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: with a beautiful scene of city market and all the 237 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: townspeople are scaring about. We see Cinderella who is following 238 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: after her stepmother and stepsisters, who are pretty much immediately annoying, 239 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: as I say are in most tales, And here we 240 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: are introduced to the charming prince, who was dressed as 241 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: a peasant so he can wander the market freely without 242 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: being accosted or bothered. And this is where the lovely 243 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: couple have their meat cute, the love I'm already calling 244 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: them a couple. We know what's going to happen. This 245 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: is where the meat cut between Cinderella and Prince Christopher 246 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: takes place, of course, and song they're kind of singing separately, 247 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: but the same thing. Yes, yes, of course we're supposed 248 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 1: to be together. Clearly they're singing the same song. Cinderella, 249 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: who is lost in her own imagination, is almost run 250 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: down by this royal care and she dropped all of 251 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: her staff, and the prince comes to assist, saying, just 252 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: like the royals, not caring if they're in anybody's way. 253 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: And though they're kind of immediately all struck with each other, 254 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: like just click, the chemistry is they're Cinderella is quickly 255 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: taken away by her stepmother and told off for speaking 256 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: to a stranger. Right. And also here's where we see 257 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of variastion in which she doesn't want 258 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: to be a princess, She just wants to be treated 259 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: like an equal, like a human, and she talks to 260 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: him about that, and of course that's the popular line 261 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: that we hear from everywhere. You're not like other girls, 262 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: are you? Well? I love, I love. She was like, 263 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: I just want to be treated with respect, like a human, 264 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, that's not like other girls. Most 265 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: of them don't want that. Well, most of them wants 266 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: to be a princess. I think most of them won't 267 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: say it. Well. From there we see the struggles of 268 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: the different lives of both Cinderella, who has dreams of 269 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: adventure and having a loving relationship away from her truly 270 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: awful steph family, and the Prince, who wants a normal 271 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: life or he can fall in love and not be 272 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: forced to be married. That's pretty funny. Um. And here 273 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: we meet the King and Queen and Lionel, Prince Christopher's vallet, 274 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: yes again played by Jason Alexander, who, by the way, 275 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: again was in the middle of his Signe Felt gig 276 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: and Yes, we also get to see his fantastic dance 277 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: sequence comedy dance musical sequence during this time. Yes, it 278 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: is wonderful accident which they did attribute to a specific movie. 279 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was, but I feel like 280 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: it's one of those many accents like we hear from Wanda, 281 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: from you know, uh m, c character. He was like, 282 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: what is happening? And Princess Leah's first accident, You're like, 283 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: what is happening? But he does the same thing, and yes, 284 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: and we find out that the Queen Whoopee is planning 285 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: a ball for Prince Christopher so he can find a bride. 286 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: And then since Lionel out to not only get all 287 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: of the things for this giant ball, which one of 288 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: my favorite names is him with the fake cake, Yeah 289 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: that was pretty good because I was like, what he 290 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: goes out to invite all the women of the village 291 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: for possible candidates to be his bride, not Lionels, but 292 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: Prince christ first. Yeah, I was pretty impressed when people 293 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: when a stepmother was hitting on him, he was like nah, 294 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: like sworry, Yeah, as he should be. So then we 295 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: see Cinderella who has these dreams of adventure and leaving 296 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: her corner in my own little corner as the song, 297 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: and she requests to go to the ball, which is 298 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: met with scoffing out right now from her stepmother. So 299 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: from there we see the stepsisters and stepmother leaving, but 300 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: who arrives but the beautiful fairy godmother Whitney Houston, and 301 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: like this swirly gold like I had those things in 302 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: the nineties, right, like for a hair like that was 303 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: a popular shape. I think I still have some somewhere. 304 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: I think was what is this? And it always falls off? 305 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: The little stars all falls and the trail like glitter. 306 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: So she arrives in that kind of swirl. Two grant 307 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: Cinderella's wish of going to the ball, and this is 308 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: where we see the classic part of the fairy Tale 309 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: of Mice turning into Coachman, a pumpkin turned into a carriage, 310 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: and a duet that will be forever iconic. According to Samantha, Yes, 311 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: the song Impossible by Whitney Houston and Brandy and also yeah, 312 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: that g literally floating presence of Whitney Houston as she 313 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: should be remembered, and the dress of course choose the 314 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: song is impossible slash It's possible obviously where it comes from. 315 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: Oh wow, look at me? Which, Yeah, the reason I 316 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: say it's iconic the minute I thought about this movie, 317 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: That's the first song that popped into my head and 318 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: I was like, it's impossible, Like that's just like, yes, 319 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: there it is. It's so cheesy. I love it. I 320 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: love cheesy movies. So at the ball with the beautiful 321 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: blues and purples and one nderful dance sequence, we get 322 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: to see the parents being passed around as the women 323 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: tried to fight for his attention to become his bride. 324 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: But Cinderella then makes her entrance and the entire crowd 325 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: stops as Prince Christopher makes his way to her. Everyone 326 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: is enamored, but at last midnight comes around and Cinderella 327 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: runs away after a wonderful duet of do I love 328 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: you because You're beautiful? Yeah? You know, but of course 329 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: losing one of her slippers as she leaves. I feel 330 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: like this was one of the parts of the movie, 331 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: and it's in every version of this fairy tale pretty much. 332 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: I was like, this is a terrible way to meet someone. 333 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: Sounds it's exhausting. You're just dancing with somebody for like 334 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: ten seconds. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. Though that sequence 335 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: lasted a lot longer than I remembered. I was. I 336 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: played this as I was writing this up, and I 337 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: waited for this thing, and I was like, listening is 338 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: last thing a whole lot longer than I remember, because 339 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: it's not a really long movie in itself. So I 340 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: was like, wow, this is okay, okay. And of course 341 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: we also see that the Queen and King dance with 342 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: her and talked to her about her family and her 343 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: She's all kind of like, oh my gosh, shouldn't we 344 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: see the step family going? She looks familiar? Who is that? 345 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you know, whispering in the background trying 346 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: to figure out who she is, which is of course 347 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: part of every single one of the movies. No one 348 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: can recognize this woman who Felix fairly recognizable. Yeah, she 349 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: just had dirt on her face, and which is the 350 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: of course, the meeting of her name Sinder. But yeah, 351 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like those of all the things. 352 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't believe that's the fun. That's a superman syndrome, right, 353 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: But I did. I did appreciate. I'm just watching this 354 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: like this is a dair way to meet somebody. And 355 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: then I love that when Brandy just runs away from 356 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: Whoopi Goldberg and she's like, all right, I like her. 357 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: I'd have questions, but you know, she's really excited that 358 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: maybe the princess about to marry House in babies. It's 359 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: true that's what she wanted. After a yes, but problem 360 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: the princess, you know, trying to find his his last 361 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: of and taking this shoe around and testing it in 362 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: all the women of the land. This is another part 363 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: that was funny, Like it is a fairy tale, so 364 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: like and even as we discuss with rom coms, there's 365 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: just the fantastical element to it. But I'm like, I 366 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: feel like there are certain people you could just say 367 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't your fairness, all right, So we find the 368 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: step sisters and even the stepmother trying to trick the 369 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: prince by trying to fit their feet into this glass slipper. 370 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: But as Cinderella is trying to leave for not knowing 371 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: the prince is there, he discovers her and yes, the 372 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: shoe fits, and they get married and live happily ever after. 373 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: So we're not to believe. Yeah, so I do love. 374 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: There's a couple of commentary and thoses's one she's leaving 375 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: and he makes that same statement because she almost gets 376 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: ran over by another carriage and he's like, like those royals, 377 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: they don't care. He realizes he knows her. And then 378 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: also I also love the fact that people like I 379 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: feel like there's probably more than one person with her 380 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: shoes size. So oh, I don't know if that's the 381 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: best way to gauge if this is the same person, 382 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: just say it. So I do love. That's also the conversation. 383 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: And then me my COVID mind was like, there's so 384 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: many germs. I don't want to wear someone else's good 385 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: gross shoes, especially blast slippers. Can you imagine how sweaty 386 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: your feet would be in them? Oh gosh, that is true. 387 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sweaty feet, t am. I. I feel like 388 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: anybody wouldn't glass slippers. Yeah. Yeah, and even if you're 389 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: wearing hose, that's even wars. I think. All I can 390 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: think is I can't imagine. I mean, the sho's gonna 391 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: be pretty sturdy. And I say it all the time. 392 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: I am very clumsy. Yeah, I'm clumsy that she was 393 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: gonna break. There's gonna be glass at my foot. I mean, 394 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: to be fair, she fell a lot in that movie, 395 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: at least twice. I mean, their magic shoes they can 396 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: probably withstand more than I'm giving them credit for. And yeah, 397 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: that's fair. And also Whitney Houston created them. And then 398 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: I feel like she knows the power of a good shoe. 399 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And I bet she had a little role 400 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: in like it didn't fit anybody, but maybe maybe maybe 401 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: like it has like a long yeah, I think so 402 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: we've created a rationale behind it. I like, yes, we 403 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: have made this makes sense. We did want to talk 404 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: about some themes now that we've covered the plot, but 405 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: first we're gonna pause for one more quick for worm 406 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: our sponsors every back thank you spouts there, right, So 407 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: there's several themes in any fairy tale, but what we 408 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: did want to focus on were these few, which includes diversity, 409 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: which is one of the first things that we had 410 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: talked about. I think you and I when we were 411 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: talking about how amazing this movie was and how divers 412 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: it was, and why it was so important to me 413 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: as a person of color growing in an all white 414 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: community to see this representation and this this was the 415 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: first rendition of the specific telling of the fairy tale, 416 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: and with Brandy and Whitney taking the lead roles, they 417 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: became the first African American actresses to play these iconic characters, 418 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: including the fact that Brandy was the first black actress 419 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: and first person of color to portray this lead character. 420 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: As in fact, it was something that was important for Whitney, 421 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: as she had stated that she wanted something for her daughter, 422 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: who apparently came on the set a lot, as well 423 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: as a lot of the other kids. Like actors, kids 424 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: would come onto the sets. She wanted her daughter to 425 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: see that this character was represented by someone that looked 426 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: like her, and the importance of seeing someone like her 427 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: as the main character as the actual princess. Right, And 428 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: it wasn't just that having an Asian male actor playing 429 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: the main male lead was very new and unheard of, 430 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: though other actors were considered, like Heay Digs the Beautiful 431 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: Day Digs, Paolo Mentalban went out in the Ends, right. 432 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: He wasn't on several other musical at that time as well, 433 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: apparently including being the understudy for The King and I 434 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: oh M, which is a really sad musical. Yes, okay, 435 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: keep going. Yes, the diversity within the entire cast was 436 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: something pretty new and it was noticeable. It wasn't a 437 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: feature or even something that overtook the film, and in 438 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: that way it delighted the audience. Unlike many films today, 439 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: there wasn't a question of how it's possible that Whoopee 440 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: and Victor would be able to have Paolo as their son, 441 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: or Bernadette had a young black woman and a young 442 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: white red head for her children. That's just how it was. 443 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: It just was. It was really interesting too, because I 444 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: was reading seven article from the l A Times about it, 445 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: and of course they address it, but they just kind 446 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: of again smooth over it, just like it's a it's 447 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: a fun musical. We'll see hopefully this gamble as the 448 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: heat they put it will pan out. So definitely was 449 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: that conversation of whether or not is it a risk 450 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: or is it something that should be happening more often? 451 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: And as in fact will be stated in Jet magazine 452 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: at that time when she was explaining why the diverse 453 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: casting made perfect since she said quote before, it was 454 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: either all black or all white, but never a normal 455 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: mix of people. This integrated cast is how the real 456 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: world is. This is more normal than being a part 457 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: of a cast that doesn't have any color in it. 458 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: So I think it's really important that that's what it 459 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: was made for. The idea of what a fairy tale 460 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: is to me, like you see a growth of a 461 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: community and in this inexplicable way of being in life, 462 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: like no one sings, no one dances in the middle Street, 463 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: I really sad about this. There's no balls really, you know, 464 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: all of these things and the community doesn't come together, 465 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, to throw a ball to get married off. 466 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: But I've seen maybe I'm just missing out on some things. 467 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's the fantasy. And this fantasy includes this 468 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: dipers cast that makes other children feel seen. And I 469 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: think it was so important, and I think that's a guess. 470 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't a child that was seventeen, but it was 471 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: so new for me going up in a culture that 472 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: didn't see me as a leading character or even a 473 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: part of the bigger story. Again, there's no Asian female 474 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 1: actors in this so but just having the representation of 475 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: having a woman of color was interesting. To have an 476 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: Asian man being seen as a prince as something wanted 477 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: as a whole new conversation. So yeah, definitely had a 478 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: bigger conversation and that that's what it represented, is the 479 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: full fantasy of being included. Yeah, and we did want 480 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: to talk about feminism here, and I know that's we 481 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: I think we've done other episodes specifically on feminism of princesses, 482 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: and that is a topic and fairy tales that comes 483 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: up a lot in conversations of like anxiety around that 484 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: and like what messages are we sending to children with 485 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: these things. So there is absolutely the romantic fairy tale 486 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: element of this, with the prince coming to sweep Cinderella 487 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: off her feet, and that just all resting concern of 488 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: being married off and having children. That's very present throughout 489 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: this rendition, though, was a little more feisty than the others. 490 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: They tried to do less of a damsel and distress 491 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: thing and more of an independent character who stayed in 492 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: a real, toxic, harmful familial relationship for the sake of 493 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: her deceased father rather than just wanting to be rescued. 494 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: In fact, a couple of differences were that she didn't 495 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: need to be saved because she was about to leave 496 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: on her own accord at the end, and she wasn't 497 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: asking to be a princess, but a woman who, as 498 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: we said, who has her own mind and has cared 499 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: for like a person, a human right too much. It 500 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: wasn't a massive change or overhaul, but it's still got noticed, 501 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: my slemon. I mean, it's been a long time since 502 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: I've seen the original Disney persion, but I just noticed, 503 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: like with the scene when she's in her corner and 504 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: she's talking about all the avengers she wants to have. 505 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: That felt very different, like I knew. And then a 506 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: lot of the takes on this she wants to get away, 507 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: but it's see more is like she's just trapped there 508 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: and can't get away, right, So, and I think that's 509 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: the other part of that. She stayed out of loyalty 510 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: and a promise she makes her father so and which 511 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: I believe is a part of the original fairy tale. 512 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: I think, I think, which you know, we don't see 513 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: that in Disney. We see the Disney version which they 514 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: which this is one Disney version, but the Disney cartoon 515 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: movie version, which she sings about someday her principill come, 516 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: which is a whole different conversation. She's not looking necessarily 517 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: for prince to come. She wants her own adventures, and 518 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: when the ball comes about, she imagines meeting the prince. 519 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: But that's a whole different conversation. But yeah, it's still 520 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: got some people not happy about this rendition, which was 521 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: still again I was like, it wasn't that big, but 522 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: people still won't be angry. And yes, of course the 523 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: movie does seem to have happy ending with marriage and royalty, 524 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: but that wasn't her goal. Yes, the tropes are very 525 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: much still there. It is a bit of a different take, 526 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: which again we talked about the fact that some did 527 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: not like it, and when it came to the theme 528 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: of being rescued versus being happy and loved, you know, 529 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: that was a little bit of a change, which I 530 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I think I like that because we don't 531 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: necessarily want to be rescued. Yo, we can rescue ourselves. 532 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: How about that? How about that? Okay, just treat us 533 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: like humans with respect. You're you're a different type of girl. Huh, 534 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: You're not like other girls. That was and we couldn't 535 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: talk about a romantic musical without the themes of love. 536 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: That is the whole goal for the prince to either 537 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: find love or be happy single and not be pushed 538 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: into anything just for the sake of duty. And in fact, 539 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: that was like his his his compromise with his mom was, 540 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: I will do this one more ball, but then I'm 541 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: doing it my own way. If I don't find somebody 542 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: I like, right, it seems fair, Yeah, it seems super fair, 543 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: And I do love again. The Queen will be a Queen. 544 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it Queen will Be because I love actions, 545 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: which is by the way, this was after direct was 546 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: already filmed and she had gotten because I don't think 547 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: anybody knew how talented she was when it came to 548 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: like singing and dancing and all of that. So like 549 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: she did it. Also Sister Acted as another one of 550 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: my favorite movies, and we might have to do that too, 551 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: both of them birth them so and of course she's 552 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: not a theme. But I have to talk a little 553 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: bit about Whitney Houston because her presence she made this film. 554 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: She made this film as in like she created it 555 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: a b her presence, her songs, her voice. It was 556 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: a whole different level when we know that when it 557 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 1: comes to Whitney Houston and her abilities and her talent, 558 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: it exceeds, it just goes beyond. And it was even 559 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: doing this time. I think there was a lot of 560 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: people watching her very closely. She was becoming famous, but 561 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: she was slowly getting caught up in some of the 562 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: controversies that we've known of her. But obviously her love 563 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: for her daughter really comes through with what she wanted 564 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: this film to be. And I think that's something that's 565 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: so important that we have to to acknowledgedge that this 566 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: was not just about making something fun and making something 567 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: to be successful. It was something that she wanted to 568 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: leave back for her child and to have this type 569 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: of legacy for young black girls everywhere. And she kind 570 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: of like when we talk about you know, female first, 571 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: she didn't see it, so she created it. That wasn't 572 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: there for her, so she created it. And I think 573 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: that's something glorious that it needs to be said. Of course, 574 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: not everyone has the talent of Whitney, Houston and Brandy, 575 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: so it's a little harder to be like I can 576 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: be that person, sure, but I think that's something that 577 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: we need to definitely acknowledge that this movie is bigger 578 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: than just being a fun little fairy tale. It does 579 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: leave a legacy for many who have not seen themselves 580 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: represented in any type of tail that has a happy ending. 581 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: And that's what this kind of was, taking something that 582 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: many take for granted and making it new. So I'm 583 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: just gonna put that there. Yeah, Yeah, it was a 584 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: really refreshing take because we do know that story. And 585 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: we're not going to get into this too much today 586 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: because we've talked about them before. But there are the 587 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: tropes like fairy tale tropes in there of the evil 588 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: stepmother who seems muney hungry or status hungry, the queen 589 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: who is desperate to find a bride for her son 590 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: so she can have a grandchildren grandchildren, who's also a 591 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: bit over the top of nagging, and then the father 592 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: who seemed dismissive, tunes out his wife and also makes 593 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: kind of a questionable comment about wanting to be with Brandy. 594 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: I was like, that's I don't know if you should 595 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: have said that and what. We definitely shut it down, 596 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: but I'm still like, wow, there's that great. Yeah, I 597 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: mean that's definitely part of the thing is like I 598 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: think people are rebranding fairy tales, which is beautiful, but 599 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: the original intense definitely have a lot of like what so, yeah, yeah, 600 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: soundifes were probably really annoying. Sorry, well you're welcome everyone. Yeah, 601 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: so it was a fun one. I so, yeah, that 602 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: was what. Okay, I need to know since you did 603 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: not know. Of course, you knew what kind of to expect, 604 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: but I think I've been hyping it up a lot 605 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: about how excited I was. What were your thoughts, what's 606 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: your review for this movie. I thought it was really good. 607 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: It was one of those things where I was like, 608 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, this isn't something I would normally watch, but 609 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: I felt like everyone for a project like that, it 610 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: would have been really easy to kind of be making 611 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: fun of it almost with your performance, but I feel 612 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: like everyone was like really there with their whole heart 613 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: and having fun. And so I thought all the performances 614 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: were really good and it was funny, and I just 615 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: remember kind of watching it again, the isn't like something 616 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: I would normally watch, but for for a moment, I 617 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I can see why people love this 618 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: because it feels really light, like kind of like just this, 619 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: like I'm in a nice light state of being kind 620 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: of happy and feeling kind of goofy, right, Like even 621 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: the villains are not serious villains. Yeah, and everyone looked 622 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: like they were having fun, which I really Yeah, I 623 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: appreciate it. There you go. I like the word I 624 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: appreciated it. It's true though, it absolutely is a thing 625 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: that I feel like some of my favorite movies. One 626 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 1: of the things I love about them is the actors 627 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: did embrace the role so much and leaned into it 628 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: so much and had so much fun with it, right, 629 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: And I think they did talk about the fact that 630 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: when Whoopee was signed on, they originally wanted her to 631 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: play a different character, but because she was so busy, 632 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: like she was like, come back to me, come back 633 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: to me, come back to me, and so they finally 634 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: were able to loop her in. Um a kind of 635 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: the same thing with Whitney Houston, Like she plays godmother, 636 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: but she's not. Fully, she didn't have to be there 637 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: all the time because her schedule was, you know, jam packed, 638 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: so it was kind of perfect for her scheduling. But yeah, 639 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: I again, these are this is my childhood, what I remember, 640 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: and this is something that allowed me to see beyond 641 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: my white circle because as an adopted child in the 642 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: mountains of Georgia, that's a whole different conversation. Again, I 643 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: think I've talked about the fact that I've had many 644 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: encounters with my own family with trying to figure out 645 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: where I fit in in a family who is disapproving 646 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: of brown people. For the most part, not disapproving, but 647 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: definitely very uh prejudice towards brown people. And it is 648 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: an internal, internalized prejudice that they would never say out loud, 649 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: except for they accidentally say that something's out loud. And 650 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: I remember my love for Brandy by like just everything 651 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: she did, including this movie. I think it was like 652 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: fifteen fifteen when she was coming about with her single 653 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: with her all of songs, and I got into a 654 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: full blown argument with my younger brother, who was a 655 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: little older than me, but he's the youngest of my 656 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: two brothers now about her. That argument was my eye 657 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: opening moment of how there's something wrong in my family here, 658 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: I think. And I remember having a conversation with my 659 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: mom about what would look like if I dated someone 660 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: outside of the outside of white people, which is hilarious. 661 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm not white, but that knows over people's head a lot. 662 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: That's what happens in a lot when you're swept under 663 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: the whole really erasure and title of model minority comes in, 664 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: as well as the fact that there's this whole layer 665 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: of saber complex. So of course she would not straight 666 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: from what we have brought her to. Essentially, that's the 667 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: best way I can say that. But I think it's 668 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: a whole big conversation where I had to find my 669 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: own identity because I had no one there to understood, 670 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: and so kind of like Brandy, kind of like the Reilla, 671 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: finding my own corner of what that meant an understanding 672 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: race and a whole different level and pivoting towards my 673 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: own understanding of who I was versus who my family was, 674 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: you know. And yeah, again I was seventeen. But it 675 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: was doing these times like family Matters that was coming out, 676 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: the Cosby Show that was happening, you know, all as 677 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: a fresh prince of bel Air. It was these big 678 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: comedies that made me be able to see outside of 679 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: my small community. So it was a definite interesting moment. 680 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: And again I also lived in a fantasy world. I 681 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: lived in a world that really I wanted something completely different, 682 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: and musicals were that for me. I told you, like, 683 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: I don't understand because I'm such a cynical individual. You 684 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: would think that I'm so like over the top, abrasive 685 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: and just really like we talked about dead inside. I 686 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I've been known to being called souls, Like, yeah, 687 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: I have no soul type of conversation because I do 688 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: seem so straightforward. But I loved musicals, and of course 689 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 1: there were specific musicals, so I like the more modern takes. 690 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 1: I didn't love the Rogers and Hammerstein versions back then. 691 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: So Carousel Oklahoma hated those hated up with a passion. 692 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: Of course, they're all really tragic and some of it 693 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: had a lot of like abuse backstory, so I was like, uh, 694 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: but like I loved Singing in the Rain was one 695 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: of my all time favorite movies. Anything with Sixtaries, who 696 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: is a white woman who danced. I think she was 697 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: in like a classical dance in ballet beautiful. I loved her. 698 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: Fred Astaire watched his movies like nobody's business. So I 699 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: definitely grew up and like my parents would laugh about 700 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: the fact that I should have been born in the 701 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: forties fifties, which I'm like, I wouldn't have fit in 702 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: any people were not fitting in at that point. But okay, 703 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: but like there is this love of escapism that I 704 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: really enjoyed, and this musical was able to be a 705 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: musical that was more inclusive as where everything else was 706 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,439 Speaker 1: just white people being dancing and cute. You know. So yeah, 707 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: I have a love. I have a love for musical 708 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: that's weird, even not talked about it. I recommended one 709 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: to her and I was like, please, please, please understand it. 710 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: It's really sexist and it's really bad, but it's such 711 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: a great musical. Yeah, that's it's always a caveat, an 712 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: interesting caveat, especially on this podcast, because I feel like 713 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: we have to mention it. But yeah, you'd be like, 714 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: I love this thing, but pretty sexist. Yeah, it did 715 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: not age well, just so you know, Well, we've talked 716 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: before about how hugely important that is to see your 717 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: self represented, especially at younger ages, but all all the time, 718 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,280 Speaker 1: and so this will I think this will have a legacy. 719 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: And I'm so happy we got to watch it. It 720 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: made you were so excited. I was so excited. No, 721 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: it's awesome and it's awesome. We've talked before. Just seeing 722 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: people get like pumped about things can bring you joy. 723 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 1: So I'm glad. Thank you. I look forward to many 724 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: uh random bursting into song from you in the future. 725 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: That's gonna happen. I know it is, um, So thank 726 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: you so much listeners for checking this one out. I 727 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: as always tend recommendations for future movies or books or 728 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: any other topics we should cover. You can emails at 729 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: Stuff Media mom stuff at iHeart media dot com. You 730 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: can find us on Instagram at stuff. I've Never Told 731 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: You or on Twitter at mom Stuff Podcast. 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