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Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Casual Chaos.

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Speaker 2: This week, we have a special guest.

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Speaker 1: That is a part of a tiny club called Special Forces.

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Speaker 2: Kayla Nicole. Welcome to Casual Chaos.

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Speaker 3: Hey girl, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: How are you? I'm good? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm exhausted.

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Speaker 4: It's been a long week and it's only like what

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Speaker 4: Wednesday or something.

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Speaker 1: So my girlfriend I just got back from Bravocon. It's

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Speaker 1: it's exhausted.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, how's that.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's crazy a well old machine.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. They work us to the bone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, as they should, but it is a crazy weekend.

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Speaker 1: We're also in the midst of filming for Next Yet

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Speaker 1: m I C and then I was so I was

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Speaker 1: filming also at Bravo Con and also filming for podcast

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Speaker 1: for my podcast.

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Speaker 3: It was it was a lot doing all the things.

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Speaker 4: Did you have to do the thing where you sit

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Speaker 4: on a panel and people in the audience ask you questions?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I would be so scared.

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Speaker 1: No, Honestly, it's it's like you're like running off of

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Speaker 1: like fumes, like you are just like it's an adrenaline rush,

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Speaker 1: and like it really is so cool to see like

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Speaker 1: how much the fans love you? And everybody was talking

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Speaker 1: to me about Special Forces literally every nice I love that.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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Speaker 1: So Kayla was also somebody who survived and won Special Forces,

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Speaker 1: So can we celebrate that everybody? Like this is pretty cool?

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Speaker 2: I love that, Like we want like women and we

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Speaker 2: won and this is pretty freaking awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I think too.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like a plot twist, like I think

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Speaker 4: going into it a lot of times I don't know

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Speaker 4: about your cast but it's usually like the athletes or

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Speaker 4: the men that they think are going to like thrive

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Speaker 4: and win. So he's pretty cool when you're like the

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Speaker 4: underdog almost or like you kind of like sneak through

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Speaker 4: and surprise people.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, definitely.

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Speaker 1: The DS thought that I was going to be out.

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Speaker 1: Everybody thought I was going to be out within the

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Speaker 1: first couple of.

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Speaker 3: Days and then they told you that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like my castmates too, especially because my mom

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Speaker 1: left on day two, so they thought when my mom

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Speaker 1: left that I was going.

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Speaker 2: To leave like right after her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Can I just say that I love that you stayed.

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Speaker 4: I love that for you and that you got the

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Speaker 4: full experience. I think that they need to start handing

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Speaker 4: out trophies. To be honest, I need something to like

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Speaker 4: hang on my mantle.

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Speaker 2: I need a trophy.

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Speaker 1: I want like an additional bonus prize at the end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, also that cash prize.

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Speaker 2: Can we have a cash prize at the end?

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Speaker 3: Trauma?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, So you were on the season right before mine,

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Speaker 1: and you and Brody Jenner were the only two recruits

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Speaker 1: to actually make it through. What was running through your

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Speaker 1: mind when you found out that you made it?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: I crack up all the time when I see the

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Speaker 4: actual clip when the staff announced that I had passed,

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Speaker 4: because it's literally zero emotion. I am a shell of

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Speaker 4: myself at that point. I looked insane. My lips were chapped,

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Speaker 4: my hair looked crazy. Physically, I probably was the most

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Speaker 4: drained in that moment. As you know, that's you've gone

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Speaker 4: through twelve hours, I believe yah of interrogation. We were

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Speaker 4: chased by wolves the first like five hours. Prior to that,

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Speaker 4: we hadn't eaten. That's the interrogation process, which I think,

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Speaker 4: in my personal opinion, was the hardest part of the

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Speaker 4: whole show. Every day was incredibly difficult and challenging.

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Speaker 3: But like that last.

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Speaker 4: Day, I was literally asking myself minute by minute, why

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Speaker 4: in the hell am I.

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Speaker 3: Being missing myself?

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Speaker 2: No, I completely agree with.

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Speaker 3: You, girl.

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Speaker 4: How insane though going through my mind, I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 4: I don't even think it fully registered that they had

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Speaker 4: told me like, okay, you passed selection because I didn't

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Speaker 4: even like laugh or smile and they're like, Kayla, like

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, bro, I literally looked at them in

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Speaker 4: their face. I'm like, what did you just dick to me?

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Speaker 4: What did you just do to me?

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Speaker 3: Because I don't feel like myself anymore? Which has happened.

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Speaker 4: I wish that I could say I was excited, but

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Speaker 4: it took me like an hour or two to really

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Speaker 4: it really probably didn't hit me until we were like

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Speaker 4: in the back with the crew and like eating a

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Speaker 4: normal meal and I kind of like.

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Speaker 3: Got to put on chapstick and wash my face. It

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Speaker 3: didn't hit me until then.

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Speaker 1: No, I completely agree because like Sean and I Sean

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Speaker 1: Johnson one with me, and she's a beast, but we

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait, why are the DS standing there?

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Speaker 1: So if the das are standing there, maybe this is

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Speaker 1: a good sign, like they came to rescue us.

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Speaker 2: But then I'm like.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, like there's something ye like, is there more?

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Speaker 2: Is there more to come?

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Speaker 1: And then they were like and they really didn't. They

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Speaker 1: didn't show this fully, but they gave us a kind

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Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean? Like, because she was,

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Speaker 1: she was she was very wrong.

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Speaker 2: Oh she's amazing. She was.

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Speaker 1: She was very robotic, but only when we were doing

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Speaker 1: was used to. She was so disciplined from gymnastics that

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Speaker 1: but when the DS saw her, yeah, she was tough.

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Speaker 1: She was, that was her and because she was in

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Speaker 2: Like what is going on? Why are you not giving

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Speaker 3: She was insane, like she was the.

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Speaker 2: Best on this course, Like what are you guys saying?

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Speaker 1: And they were like complimenting me and being like number eighteen,

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Speaker 1: You've come such a long way. We thought you were

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Speaker 1: going to tap out, and like, listen, I really did

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Speaker 1: improve every single day on that course.

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Speaker 2: Like I improved physically.

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Speaker 1: My mental state I think was always there because I've

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Speaker 1: always been mentally strong throughout my life, but one hundred

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Speaker 1: number eighteen, you guys have past selection and I was

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Speaker 1: like that was incredible and hugging them and just honestly

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Speaker 1: and I felt this, And I don't know if you did,

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Speaker 1: but like Sean and I really didn't experience any like

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Speaker 1: finally from the DS. But I think other people who

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it definitely humanized them. I

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Speaker 4: oh you like that yet, Okay, Like I just you

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Speaker 4: it definitely humanizes them. I didn't have too much PTSD

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Speaker 3: I made it to the end. Very exciting and all that.

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Speaker 4: I remember, I kind of like blacked out for a moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, definitely, during this process it was just so

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Speaker 3: Because did you lose any weight? Oh, Like I lost

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Speaker 3: like ten pounds.

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Speaker 1: I lost ten pounds. I was so happy. I was

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Speaker 1: like keep it curling.

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Speaker 3: They're like right, feed me more slop and chicken.

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Speaker 1: Oh literally it was And it was because like I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you guys, like are I never ate dinner,

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Speaker 1: but my breakfast, like our breakfast wasn't terrible. It was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the plainest freaking oatmeal I'll every in your life. That

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Speaker 1: tasted like I don't even know, like not cardboard, but

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Speaker 1: it was just like bland as hell air. Yes, And

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Speaker 1: then there was hard boiled eggs and there was like

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Speaker 1: with either like chicken or like oxtail.

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Speaker 3: And like I actually like the fancy yeah, like I

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Speaker 3: actually liked that tale. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was like it was like short, like short, like

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Speaker 1: short beef, short, short rip, yes, like.

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Speaker 3: Like a oxtail out there.

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Speaker 1: Well I think because I think oxtail. I think oxtail

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Speaker 1: is like big in Morocco. Yeah, so I think it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but so maybe it was an oxen we started doing.

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Speaker 4: It was like cooled pork or something like that. We

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Speaker 4: started doing things. I was like Jesus might in prison.

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Speaker 4: We started doing things like taking the jam and putting

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I told my family before I left that there's

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I totally agree with you. I think that was

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Speaker 1: But that show also shows you at your rawest points

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Speaker 2: I want to finish. I want to.

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Speaker 1: Get through this, And it was the best feeling in

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Speaker 3: Absolutely no, I agree.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you can relate to this too, as someone

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Speaker 4: But this experience, nobody can take it from you, Like

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Speaker 3: We did the day.

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Speaker 2: We did the we did the damn thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agreed, But if.

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Speaker 1: They ever did a Special Forces All Star no, no, okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bro okay, and I've told them, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 3: Don't call me. You want somebody to host the chow

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Speaker 3: I got you. You want a reunion, call me. I'm

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Speaker 3: not doing this again. I did it. I did it,

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Speaker 1: I would do it for the challenges, but I don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't even want to do the challenge. Wait,

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Speaker 3: I didn't you have one?

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: We only failed because we didn't we didn't get the code.

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Speaker 2: I didn't like smell the gas.

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Speaker 4: Like I almost urinated on myself, Gia from the gas.

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Speaker 3: I thought that I was going to die minute and.

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Speaker 4: Fully breathe your eyes are watering, you have not running

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Speaker 4: It's actually Brodie who also won the show. That was

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Speaker 4: Fox is kind of crazy, like they might actually let

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Speaker 3: So another task that I would never do again. Also,

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Speaker 2: See that that stuff kind of me a thrill.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's what I thought too when we were jumping

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Speaker 3: Seven and bad ass.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. They put me over dry land on a bridge

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Speaker 2: That was the bungee cord. Right were you?

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Speaker 2: You know, like I'm going to my bands were trading, and.

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Speaker 4: they're giving you safety protocol and they're breaking things down

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Speaker 2: Rudy, that's what you gotta do, got it?

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Speaker 4: You know what.

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Speaker 1: Though, did you guys have to well, I know some

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Speaker 2: I go okay. And when they say that to you,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to leave though, so I just have

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Speaker 3: It's almost it's insane.

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Speaker 4: But I think it just shows you how powerful our

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Speaker 4: You get the same quote unquote exposure, you get the

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Speaker 4: and all those things. You're literally doing this because you

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Speaker 4: At least for me, I can regulate my emotions, that

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Speaker 3: We do not have to do this. So I think

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Speaker 4: And I mean I commend you for doing it because

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Speaker 1: this is their playground. We're entering their world. They don't

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00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 1: strew around, they don't give it what production says. They

446
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 1: want the course to run the way they want it

447
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 1: to run.

448
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 3: And if in their real life experience too.

449
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so if you mess with that, that's just

450
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,400
Speaker 1: like that's disrespectful to them exactly.

451
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I definitely left the experience having so much more.

452
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I already always had respect for people in

453
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 4: the line of duty and service, but I left that

454
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 4: experience like, wait, I get that I had the chance

455
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 4: to go home after this. There's people who spend their

456
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 4: lives and dedicate their lives protecting and serving us, and

457
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 4: that to me was just like wow, like people do

458
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 4: this every single day.

459
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

460
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: And then it's like, literally, did you guys have to

461
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: write the death letters too?

462
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 4: Oh my god?

463
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, that tore me apart. I hated that tore me apart.

464
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 2: Horrible.

465
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 3: That was who did you write your letter to your family? Yeah, yeah, same.

466
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: And it was horrible.

467
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: And I just, you know, just like looking at Billy

468
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: as he walked in and like told us that they

469
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: had to write these letters all the time because they

470
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: know they didn't know if after this mission, if they

471
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: were going to come home. And I'm just like, you

472
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: sit there and think, and You're like, that is terrifying

473
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: because there actually going to combat where they can actually

474
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: not come home. Like, yes, sure we feel like we're

475
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: in it, but no, they're actually in it. And I mean, I, oh,

476
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 1: but I because I agree. I didn't have anyone close

477
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: to me, like my friends or family that you know,

478
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: served in the military or were in any line of duty.

479
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: So I I of course appreciated it, but I I

480
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: didn't have that personal connection to it. And after doing

481
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: Special Forces, I was I was blown away.

482
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 2: My respect for them just.

483
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: Was beyond oh yeah, oh yeah. You built such a

484
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: dynamic career across sports, broadcasting, entertainment, and fashion, and you're

485
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 1: known for so much more than one chapter of your

486
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: personal life. But with everything that you've been through publicly.

487
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: Do you feel like special Forces came into your life

488
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: exactly at the right moment?

489
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. Absolutely.

490
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 4: And you know, in hindsight now it's been what a

491
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 4: year and some change now since I had the actual

492
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: experience it aired to answer your question. In hindsight, I

493
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 4: think I needed this experience more than I ever knew,

494
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 4: especially just fast forward to where I am now in

495
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 4: my career and being in this very like forward facing

496
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 4: public figure position. This industry is not an easy one,

497
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 4: and you have to have really really tough skin. You

498
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 4: have to be extremely resilient. And what I'm learning in

499
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 4: this chapter of my life and what I'm trying to

500
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 4: do is really just reclaim my own power and stand

501
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 4: in that and own that. And I think being on

502
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 4: this show it allowed me a very interesting and unique

503
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 4: experience in a way of seeing that and manifesting that,

504
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 4: like physically, but also like mentally and emotionally. Like I

505
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 4: learned so so much about myself during this experience. And

506
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 4: I don't think that anything in my life could have

507
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 4: taught me the lessons.

508
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: That I've learned from this show.

509
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 4: Like there's nothing that I could possibly do that's gonna

510
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 4: make me feel that fight or flight emotion. But then

511
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 4: at the same time, I'm I'm thankful for that, right,

512
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 4: Like I don't need to experience that again to learn

513
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 4: that about myself.

514
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 3: But how does that translate in my everyday life now?

515
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 3: I think that there's.

516
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 4: Certainly moments where I feel very broken and defeated and

517
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 4: misunderstood or you know, you name it. But what I

518
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 4: did learn from that show is just I'm so much

519
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 4: more than public perception that like, I am my own individual,

520
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 4: And although sometimes it does feel a little bit like

521
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 4: dehumanizing to be in the position that I'm in, to

522
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, I'm constantly just like clickbait or

523
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 4: a headline, I think what that show taught me is that.

524
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: And one of the stuff I've told me this is

525
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 4: that you have to pay eighty percent of this life

526
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 4: that we live in is just a bunch of noise, right,

527
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 4: and twenty percent is what really matters. And that or

528
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 4: it's like twenty and eighty. Either way, let's just say

529
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: it's the eighty percent is noise and the twenty percent

530
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 4: is what really matters. And I'm choosing to focus on

531
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: the twenty percent, and the twenty percent for that is

532
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 4: my family, my friends, My business is my podcast, the pregame,

533
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 4: whether it's my wellness brand, tripe therapy, Like I really

534
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 4: have been just focusing and pouring myself into the community

535
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 4: that loves me and that sees me and understands me,

536
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 4: and that brings me the most peace and happiness and joy.

537
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: So no matter what's really going on in the world,

538
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 4: if I focus on those things that twenty percent that

539
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 4: really matters, like that's that's all that I can do.

540
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: I love that, and that that really is like what

541
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: the show teaches you, You gotta you have to focus on

542
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: and prioritize what really matters because anything else doesn't matter.

543
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: So and that's why they really.

544
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: Want you to lock in and tune in with yourself

545
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: and look at the bigger picture. And like Special Forces

546
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: changed me, like changed my entire life.

547
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 3: I love that.

548
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 4: Though It's like I almost kind of wish more people

549
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 4: could experience it to some level, to some degree, because it.

550
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: Is I think the whole the whole world needs to

551
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: experience it. Everyone needs a wake.

552
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: Up call for everyone. Send everybody off to war. Like

553
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: that's insane, that's an insane thing to say. But let's say,

554
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: like I wish that there was like you know how.

555
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: That not like I think everyone needs Like, no, I

556
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: just not that everyone. I think it's just an amazing experience.

557
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: Like I think every like if any if, if everybody

558
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: could have the.

559
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: Chance to experience that.

560
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's incredible, it's life changing.

561
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyone would grow from it if you're open to it,

562
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 4: if you are.

563
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: Of course to seeing seeing the true benefit of it.

564
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: Because I think too, like, if you go into it

565
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 4: with the wrong mindset, it's it's probably easy to like

566
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 4: leave early on, or to just like.

567
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: Quit and give up on yourself.

568
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 4: And you know, not to speak negatively about anyone that

569
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: chose to do that for themselves, but you definitely have

570
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 4: to go into it with an open mind and a

571
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: desire to learn about yourself. So if you go into

572
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 4: it with the outlook, I think, yeah, you can definitely

573
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 4: leave with with a lot and grow a lot, for sure.

574
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: Definitely.

575
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: I want to talk about something that just went so

576
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: viral on the internet.

577
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: Your Halloween costume.

578
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: You posted that Tony Braxton look with the he Wasn't

579
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: man enough moment, and people immediately obviously started making their

580
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: own assumptions and their own storylines. And this is honestly

581
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: what you kind of talked about on Special Forces on

582
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: what yeah you hated And I remember watching you throughout

583
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: the season and honest and resonating with you when you

584
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: would talk about this.

585
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: What was your intention behind that? TikTok?

586
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Halloween every year, and I talked about

587
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 4: this's on my popt the pregame. I love Halloween so much.

588
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 4: Growing up, I grew up in a very sheltered home.

589
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 4: We didn't get to celebrate Halloween too much. Like I

590
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 4: got to be either like an angel.

591
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 3: Or an animal, and I got to.

592
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 4: Do the church trigger treating and the trunk parking lot like.

593
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 4: I didn't have very much freedom. So in my very

594
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 4: big grown age of thirty four, in my adulthood, I

595
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 4: do whatever I want and I love it so very much.

596
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 4: I've kind of found this little niche pocket of Halloween

597
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 4: where I choose a celebrity or artist that I really

598
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 4: admire and it typically involves me doing some sort of

599
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 4: like performative dance number. Last year, I was Sierra and

600
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: I did specifically the Ride music video.

601
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: Which was very spicy, had a little viral moment there.

602
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: This year, I did Tony Braxton, who wasn't man enough

603
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: for me? And I said this too. I literally grew

604
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 4: up on this album. This record specifically though, is like

605
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: a classic two thousands bop. I know that you're a

606
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 4: little bit younger than me, so you.

607
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: Probably have you ever even heard that song before?

608
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew I knew this and viral, but

609
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't need I Yeah, guys, don't kill me.

610
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: I don't even know who Tony Braxton is.

611
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't cover don't kill me.

612
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: I don't.

613
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm all I need to like educate myself more when

614
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: it comes to see.

615
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: This is why performative Halloween costumes are important, because after

616
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 4: we get off of this zoom, I want you to

617
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: go and I want you to one shout out Tony braxim.

618
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 4: I want you to download the song, add the song

619
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 4: to your Apple Music. I don't know, get on TikTok

620
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: and add it to your sounds.

621
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: Okay, so her song.

622
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: The song is now trending, by the way, it's like

623
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 4: top one hundred on Apple Music.

624
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: Like wait, but I love. We've started a whole little movement.

625
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: So if you want to dress up in a sexy

626
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: Halloween costume and feel and do what you gotta do

627
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: and feel confident.

628
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: Little shake a little something, Yeah, do that, what's the problem.

629
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 4: Sometimes you got to like you got to reintroduce yourself

630
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: to people sometimes, you know, because they forget. Like you

631
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 4: saw me on Special Forces, I was a little crusty, dusty,

632
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: but I can get it together, you know what I mean.

633
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: I mean when I saw you at the Nile on

634
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: a d you looked absolutely stunning and you did not

635
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 1: look drusty dusty. We like, the the braids were a

636
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: smart move, Like, what else were you supposed to do?

637
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: My hair was getting tangled in the mud every day,

638
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: and I had hair extensions in my hair like God, and.

639
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 4: My braids, my braids were dreadlocks by the end of it,

640
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 4: like it was giving locked in together, crazy crazy times.

641
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: Oh I love that. Throughout Special Forces.

642
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: I know when I was watching you, you've really just

643
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: wanted people to see a different side of you, and

644
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: you really did want to shut out the noise. I

645
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: know the DS told you that eighty percent of it

646
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: is the noise and twenty percent of it is what

647
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: is important.

648
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: So moving forward in.

649
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: Your life, how did you really shut out the noise

650
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: and move on and just keep going and create your

651
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: own path.

652
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: I think that for me, obviously, social media is a

653
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: huge part of my life. It's a huge part of

654
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: my career as someone who is a content creator, influencer,

655
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: whatever title that you want to give me. And I

656
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: kind of laugh at it now looking but I have

657
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 4: come to the realization that when I close my phone,

658
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 4: whether it's turned off, exit out of the app, all

659
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: of those voices and literally all of those people.

660
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: And all of those opinions are non existent.

661
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 4: Like we put so much weight and emphasis on the

662
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: opinions of the internet bots on the Internet, fake.

663
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: Pages with fake pictures.

664
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 4: I had to almost like slap myself in the face, like, girl,

665
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: get over it. Like you're never gonna you're never gonna

666
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Speaker 4: win everyone over.

667
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Speaker 3: You're never gonna have one hundred percent support of the world.

668
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: That's just a part of life. I don't care if

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Speaker 3: you're a public figure or not. That's just life.

670
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Speaker 4: More people, young people, specifically, I really want to know

671
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Speaker 4: this message turn the freaking phone off, like literally turn

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Speaker 4: the phone on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, that was the best thing of Special Forces.

674
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Speaker 3: Not having any of it.

675
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Speaker 2: You're not having my phone. I loved it.

676
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Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, But like more people we kind of like

677
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 4: do this same song and dance of like, and I

678
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 4: get it.

679
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: It sucks.

680
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: It sucks to deal with online harassment or bullying. Like

681
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: I feel like that's such a universal thing that a

682
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: lot of people experience.

683
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: Turn it off.

684
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 4: You don't have to do it, like even a part

685
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: of my job. I don't have to look at that

686
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: every day. If I don't want to, I can do

687
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: my job, post my content, and get on the best

688
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: thing Apple started doing is sharing your screen time. If

689
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: your screen time is more than thirty minutes, something's going on, Okay.

690
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: That's enough. You don't need more than thirty minutes on

691
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Speaker 3: them DMX.

692
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 4: Walk out, grass, go grocery shopping, pain a picture, talk

693
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 4: to your family, walk your dog, do something.

694
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Speaker 3: Because all that is irrelevant.

695
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Speaker 2: Yeah, be relevant.

696
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Speaker 1: What do you think people have misunderstood about you the most?

697
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Speaker 3: Girl, I don't know everything.

698
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: At this point, I don't even care anymore, you know

699
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: what I mean?

700
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Speaker 1: Like I have, Well, you don't feel like people got

701
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: a better understanding of you after Special Forces?

702
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: Honestly, Gia, I hope that they did.

703
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Speaker 2: But I also but you're like, I don't even know.

704
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't care less, Like I know what I

705
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: got from that experience. I'm so proud of how I

706
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: carried my self, how I finish strong. That literally is

707
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 4: all that matters to me. Everybody else, I don't care.

708
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: Go do some right headline about it.

709
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: I don't really care, no exactly.

710
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: You're known for your confidence and humor online. Are you

711
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: totally an open book or do you have a private

712
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: side to you?

713
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: Oh? God, I'm so private.

714
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 4: That's why I laugh all the time because people think

715
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Speaker 4: that I'm sharing one hundred percent.

716
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: I'm probably shared like thirty.

717
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 4: Percent of my truth. And people be choking on a cheerios.

718
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: This is the tip of the iceberg, sweetie.

719
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Speaker 3: I'm sparing you all. Okay, I'm sparing you.

720
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Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's awesome though. Wait, you're funny choking on

721
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: your cheerios.

722
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Speaker 3: I'm dead.

723
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Speaker 4: Seriously, and I'm a scorpio to you. I'm very I

724
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 4: won't say secretive, but I'm very private. Yeah, and intentional

725
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 4: with the things that I share, you know what I mean.

726
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: Like, I don't share a lot.

727
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Speaker 1: Which is good though, because I feel like that keeps

728
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: like like that just keeps you.

729
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: Grounded and like true to yourself, you know.

730
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, especially living in a time where it's a part

731
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 4: of the culture to overshare in a sense like people

732
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Speaker 4: think and.

733
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Speaker 1: Well, because yeah, if you overshare, then that shows authenticity

734
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: and it gravitates and traction and everything.

735
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but there is there is a very delicate dance

736
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 4: that I have tried to master because I do always

737
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 4: want to be genuine. I want to show up as

738
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: my authentic self. But that doesn't mean that I have

739
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 4: to give everyone every part of me. I can save

740
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 4: some things for myself, that's okay.

741
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is something people wouldn't be able to know

742
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: about you from what you post on social media?

743
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Speaker 3: Hmmm, jeez. I think lately probably I've become quite the recluse.

744
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if it's an age thing.

745
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Speaker 4: Like my older homegirls will always tell me like, there's

746
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 4: going to be a time, girl where you can't drink

747
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 4: the way that you do and you got the one

748
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 4: to go out. And I used to be like, you're

749
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: so boring, you're so boring going to the sweater And

750
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Speaker 4: now I don't know what happened. I turned thirty four

751
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, it's like you have to

752
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Speaker 4: pay me to come outside.

753
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Speaker 1: You are I mean, listen, I'm still twenty four, and

754
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, I can't drink like I used to

755
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Speaker 1: when I was in college, Like I feel horrible the

756
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: next morning.

757
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Speaker 3: Wait until you're thirty four.

758
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: You're gonna literally be looking at that shot at tequila

759
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: and thinking about your next week, Like, do I really

760
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 4: want to ruin my Thursday of next week by.

761
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: Drinking the store shop right here? I don't know.

762
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: Things change, but I'm not mad at it, Like I'm

763
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: just in a different air in my life. And I

764
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 4: think my presence on social media has certainly shifted. I

765
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 4: used to be posting this and posting that, and I'm

766
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: at the store and I'm at a party and here

767
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: in my club, and I just have become a little

768
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 4: more just a little more private, And I kind of

769
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 4: like enjoy my at home alone moments the most right now,

770
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 4: my solitude, Like it's become my safe space. So maybe

771
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 4: that's what people might not know about me these days.

772
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: You've had such a great career words, broadcasting, fashion, fitness,

773
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: and now podcasting. Are there any lanes that you'd like

774
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: to lean into next?

775
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 4: I think acting is my my little pride and joy.

776
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: Another thing people might not.

777
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: Know about me. I have been a part of like.

778
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 4: Two projects this year that were really cool, and I

779
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 4: certainly hope to do that more in the future.

780
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Speaker 3: I've been taking acting classes.

781
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 4: It's such a like humbling experience, and it's also extremely terrifying,

782
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: so I feel like I'm doing something right. You know,

783
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: whenever you're trying something new and it freaks you out

784
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 4: a little bit.

785
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: I think that it's supposed to feel uncomfortable before it

786
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: feels comfortable.

787
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 4: You gotta lean into that, like there's there's a lot

788
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 4: of freedom on the other side of fear. So I'm

789
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: I love this acting world for sure.

790
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Speaker 2: I love to hear that. All right.

791
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Speaker 1: K le Well, thank you so much for coming on

792
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: Casual Chaos. This was such an amazing episode and we

793
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: are the baddest ever for a winning special. Yeah period.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Ga, thank you, Bache

795
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Speaker 4: Understand