1 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just gotta let go. 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know, I like, let's just hit 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: record and see what happens. 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 3: I wanted to do with Shot in the Dark. Shot 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 3: in the Dark. Now you're ready to run here, Now 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 3: we're pros. You've been Wow. 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: So cool. 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Happy Friday, Happy Friday, Chip. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 3: Happy Friday. I know we're faking it, so biz Baby 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: Razzle Dazzle. 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: It's Tuesday for us, but this will be airing on Friday. 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: I'm actually traveling, so we are getting ahead of schedule. 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: I enjoy being ahead of schedule on the podcast. 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: It's less stressful for sure, because I feel like when 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: we're not ahead of it, we're like, oh shit, it's Thursday. 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: We gotta get this ship up. 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think sometimes with the Edge podcast, 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: we do try to wait because it's like some of 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: the topics we were making more timely and so it 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: felt like we needed to do it the day before. 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: But it's just not very realistic with our schedules. So 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: here we are. 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: Yep. 24 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: I don't know why I felt they need to tattle 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: on us that it's a Tuesday. 26 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 3: But it's important, you know. It's another example of like 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: doing things when you can, and it's thank God for Zoom, 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 3: you know, not a sponsor, but like prior to this, 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: like we would have had to have gotten in a 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 3: room together, you know, or I guess done and over 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: the phone. Did you ever do that? 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: I did a couple times way back in the day. Yeah, 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: it's so funny. I forgot about that because Zoom really 34 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: came to life for me during the pandemic. 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I never heard of it before that. 36 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: I got really acquainted with it. Everything else I did 37 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: used to do in person, or we would try to. 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: I had to do a couple over the phone, but 39 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: the sound was terrible, so you know. Anyway, Happy Friday everyone. 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: It is the end of the month, which again we 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: do this every month too with time, but like I 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: can't believe it. It's it's been so fast, and every time 43 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: I'm busy, I just feel like I lose time. And 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: I'm trying to be more conscious of that actually, because 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: it's like a little bit sad, like I feel like 46 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: I'm missing part of the summer because June's almost over. 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: It's wild. I don't know if I've ever said this 48 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: on here, so tell me to shut up if I have, but. 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: But never takes shut. 50 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: Up the theory that, like, you know, my parents used 51 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: to always say to me, like, you know, enjoy your 52 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: childhood because time starts to fly when you're older, and 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: you know the idea that, like, when you're a kid, 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 3: the summer, three months of summer is such a fraction 55 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: of your overall life. Right now that I'm turning the 56 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: corner to fifty, it's like three months is not a 57 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: lot of time anymore. So the mommer you get a 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: summer feels shorter because it's such a smaller fraction of 59 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: your life. 60 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: Well, and we're still working, right or the Chile. Do 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: you like have the time off, which is amazing, but 62 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: I think you have a little more of like the 63 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: feeling of that having the time off or whatever just 64 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: makes time go slower. 65 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, although vacation does fly by in my adulthood. Now, wow, 66 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: bless you. 67 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 2: Sorry that sneeze has been trying to come out since 68 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: we started recording. 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: Hey you guys, we're we're real here. 70 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: We're just like real life situations. Do you want to 71 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: give me a catch up on like what's happening with you. 72 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: I feel like I've been so in work mode that 73 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: I don't even know. So why don't you tell me 74 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: and the listeners any updates in your life? Do you 75 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: have anything for us? 76 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: What are some good updates for me? I mean, I 77 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: survived seeing my fest. 78 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: That was a wild time. 79 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: It was a wild time. It was good though, Yeah, 80 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: you know, I'm still tired from it. I don't recover 81 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: like I used to. Yeah, And the last weekend went 82 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: out on the road for a couple of days, which 83 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: was fun, but also again like did not sleep that 84 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: great and I might have been overserved on Friday. 85 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: It's funny I heard this about you, which is what 86 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about. 87 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: I apparently heckled a magician of like making fart noises. 88 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: And so why don't you tell us what was going on? 89 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: Because I actually went to Bonnery on Sunday and was 90 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: told a little bit about you left that weekend, and 91 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: someone said to me, does Chip like the next day 92 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: have anxiety? And I was like, no, I've never I've 93 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: never experienced Chip feeling like, oh gosh, I wish I 94 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: wouldn't have said that. 95 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: You're just you just laugh it off. 96 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: I mean I did ask like do I need to 97 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: be embarrassed? And then I saw a video and I 98 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: was like, oh, yeah, I mean I blamed the bartender 99 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: because because I mean alcohol in your drink I drank. 100 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: I drank the drinks, but they were stiff. And anyway, 101 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: my sister and brother in law, my nieces came to 102 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: the show and we were in Raleigh, North Carolina, and yeah, 103 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: I just had a good time. 104 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: And it was the week after CMA Fast You're kind 105 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: of like burning Stein. 106 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: I was like letting loose and it was all in 107 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: good fun and I was very There was a video. 108 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: There's video of it. So there was a magician that 109 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 3: came backstage after the show and was. 110 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: It Who was it? 111 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: Mike? 112 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, is it magic? Mike? 113 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: I think it is. 114 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, not to be confused with the Channing Tadeum movie. 115 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: He's amazing. Yeah, he keeps clean. Magic's amazing. 116 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 3: He was doing magic and there were kids at a 117 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: table and I was sitting out of a table sort 118 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: of in the corner, just hecking and. 119 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: Sounds like you should have been at the kids table. 120 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: I was like, butto like making cart noises, and I 121 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: had this like little fake microphone. But when I watched 122 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: the videos of myself, like I am struggling to stay awake, 123 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: Like you can tell that's all I'm trying to do. 124 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: It was just stay awake. 125 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: Yeah wow, so but whatever, you know, it was fun. 126 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I stayed nice. Other than that's always good. Well, 127 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: but other than heckling the magician. All that time that you, 128 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: me and Mary went to a House of Cards, you 129 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: also we talked about it have a thing about heckling 130 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: magician magicians. 131 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was. I mean, I can't speak to 132 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: how good magic Mike was because I don't even I 133 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 3: don't remember and with the magician, but I can tell 134 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: you that when we when we heckled the guy at 135 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 3: House of Cards, like he was a really bad magician. 136 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: Well he was a bad one, yes, and. 137 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: He thought he was funny too, and it wasn't funny. 138 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: So it's just like right out of the gate we 139 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: were like, I can't deal. We're stuck. 140 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: Well, don't put me in that category. I know, Mary Hill, 141 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: it was the two of y'all. I get so stressed 142 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: out in those situations when y'all are being loud. 143 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to die. 144 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to associate be associated with these people. 145 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: Like it's so stressful to me. I wanted to like 146 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: crawl out of the room myself. 147 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: It's all in good fun. 148 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Why don't think it's very fun for them? 149 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? Probably not. 150 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I always think. 151 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: It's funny, Like when you blamed it on the bar 152 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: tender just then, it was like have you ever heard 153 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: people the next morning after a big night they're like, 154 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: I think someone puts something in my drink. Chelsea Hammler 155 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: always has this joke and she's like, yeah, it's called vodka. 156 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: Like did she drink a lot? 157 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: I did? I did drink a lot. 158 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 159 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: Well, I went to Bonnery this weekend, as I just mentioned, 160 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: which is such a feat for first of all, because 161 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: I had CMA Fest through Sunday. Then that next Monday, 162 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: I left town to go to Minneapolis and then New 163 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: York for work. Hay back home when then we went 164 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: to Bonner after one day of rest, which is like, 165 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: you know me, that is just that is a big accomplishment. 166 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 2: But it was really fun. My client kit Moore was playing, 167 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: and then I saw Paramore, who I don't really like. 168 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say their music is really my thing, Like right, 169 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: they're whatever, They're great, but it's just never really been 170 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: my thing, like maybe a song or two of like 171 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: Haley Williams, though, have you ever seen her perform live? 172 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: Unbelievable amazing. I had no idea she is such a former. 173 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: She's so charismatic, Like her voice is killer. 174 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Her voice is killer. 175 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: But she also like moves around the stage and is 176 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: doing basically backbins while she sings amazing songs. Like yeah, 177 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: it's crazy how much she works the stage. I just 178 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: had such a big respect for her. I kind of 179 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: had a girl crushed because she's just like so cute. 180 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: You just want to be friends with her, Like she 181 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 2: seems really fun. 182 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: She was amazing. 183 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: Marcus Mumford, I am obsessed. 184 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: Like did he play Mumford and Son's songs or just 185 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: a solo stock? 186 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so he plays a couple Mumford and Son songs 187 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: and then he does his solo stuff. Then he plays 188 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: like other songs he's written for other artists, which he 189 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: played this one I love by New Basement Tapes. I 190 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 2: had no idea he had written it, just like crazy, 191 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: but like the fact that he I I have seen. 192 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: Mumford and Son's play at festivals before, and I love them. 193 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I love that first album like I wore 194 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: it out with such a fan, but I've kind of 195 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: forgotten about him, if I'm being honest, Like they just 196 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: haven't been on my radar maybe right. So when my 197 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: friend Courtney was like, oh, Marcus Mumford's playing, we need 198 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: to go see, I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot 199 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: about that. 200 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: Guy. 201 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: Wasn't really like overly excited. 202 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say. 203 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: I was just kind of like, okay, the fact that 204 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: he can walk on a huge stage at a music 205 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: festival with one guitar and sing acoustically. 206 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 3: It's a no band, no band wow. 207 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: And it was a nighttime show like that's something maybe 208 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: you would get away with in the daytime and kind 209 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: of like, you know, like it's just a dumb down set, 210 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: like it's just okay, Like that makes sense. His slot 211 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: was an eight thirty slot. Oh wow, people are like Hammer, 212 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: you know, like it's more of like the rockers like 213 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: Paramour and Food Fighters who I saw after him. But 214 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: like he went out there, he commands the stage. Then 215 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: in between the songs he's just talking and he's so funny. 216 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: Of course he has the cutest British accent. Like I'm 217 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: just obsessed and he's so cute, Like he has great style, 218 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: like physically cute. 219 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: He's just so cute. 220 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: So anyway, I'm new crush on him as well. 221 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 3: This might make you love him too. I remember early 222 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: days and of mon Friend and sons. Rather than having 223 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: a fan club, he started a book club that fans 224 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: could join and they would they would like read a 225 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: book a month God, and he would like I don't 226 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: know if he did zooms or how exactly it works 227 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: because I. 228 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: Wasn't a member, so he would like get on with them. 229 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: He was part of Yeah, he was part of it, 230 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: or maybe he would write a review or was you know, 231 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: like a Reddit style, but he was interacting with them 232 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: that way versus it just being like a normal like. 233 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: Praise me club. 234 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 235 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just funny too. He's like, you know, I 236 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: tries to like watch what I'm saying in between songs. 237 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: He's like, but when I'm up here by myself, there's 238 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: a lot of time to kill and so I just 239 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: start talking. But then sometimes when it's just me, I'm 240 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: a little more nervous too, so I have this anxious 241 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: energy and I overtalk and because like I don't really 242 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 2: realize all the curse words I say because some of 243 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: the words don't mean the same thing where I'm from. Like, 244 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: he's like, I use the word cunt a lot. 245 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: That's he's not a bad word. It's a really bad 246 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: word here, but. 247 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: Not and here specifically it's directed towards women. Where he's like, 248 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: when we use it, it's interchangeable, like it's not there's 249 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: no gender tied to the word cunt. 250 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: You know. 251 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: He's like, I prefer to my buddies as good cuts 252 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: or bad cunts, Like it's right, right, right. 253 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 254 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: So we were just like their version of asshole almost 255 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 2: like yeah, and he's like, what. 256 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: An asshole that? You know? It's like you could be 257 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: like a nice asshole, yeah yeah. 258 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: And he's like and then I noticed the last show 259 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 2: I did, there was this like six year old boy 260 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: in the front, and I'm like, gosh, I really got. 261 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: To watch what I was saying. 262 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: But then I looked over at him and he was giggling, 263 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, he has a good cut. 264 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: Though. 265 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: I was like, God brings it in the full circle. 266 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Yes. I just loved him. 267 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: So and then we saw food fighters, who I didn't 268 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: get to say for the whole sack because we needed 269 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: to get back to town. 270 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 3: But like they've girl, he's amazing. I just have you 271 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: ever watched the there's a they've got a documentary called 272 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: Back and Forth. 273 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: And what I was talking about driving a mini van? 274 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well he yeah, he doesn't the like they because 275 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: you know, obviously he came from Nirvana, Like they could 276 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: have gone straight into buses and trucks and all the things, 277 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 3: but he it was really important for him in the 278 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: beginning to make it feel like it was a new band, 279 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: so he did. He purchased a van, and their first 280 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: tour they did in a van. 281 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: I was talking about how he picks his kids up 282 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: in carpl in a minivan, and I'm like, could you 283 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: imagine Dave Groll driving up to his kids' school to 284 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: pick them up in a mini van? Like I just 285 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: love that he's like a soccer dad. 286 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah, I love that he seems like 287 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: a good dad. 288 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: He just seems super down to earth. Yeah, it was 289 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: kind of eerie. I'm not gonna lie because the drummer 290 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: obviously passed away and so they have I don't who's 291 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: the replacement guy. 292 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 3: I know it's Josh Freeze. Yeah, he's like he played 293 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 3: in nine inch Nails. 294 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: And okay, I mean he's also an amazing drummer, but 295 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: like it was just the whole shooting. Yeah, of course, 296 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 2: and it just like it's kind of haunting. I don't 297 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: know how else to say that, but yeah, but yeah, 298 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: I mean we were it was raining, even like I 299 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: stayed through that. What you know for me is like, whoa, 300 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: she must be having fun? 301 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 3: What'd you do with your hair? 302 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: I just let it go, man, let oh god, lived 303 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: lived bad moment. 304 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: It's a very British sort of festival experience to have 305 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: it like get rainy and muddy and oh wow, like 306 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: are your own little Glastonbury? 307 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I had it. I mean for a couple 308 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: of songs at least. Anyway, it was an interesting experience. 309 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I love music festivals when I can be 310 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: present in them and just enjoy the music. 311 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: So it was nice. It was really nice. 312 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: I saw I saw your your Instagram posts and I 313 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: was like, oh, look at Kelly down there was a farm. 314 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: I was really proud of myself for rallying. It felt 315 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: like a big rally because then I'm leaving again today. 316 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: So anyway, yeah, these are not real problems. These are 317 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: things to. 318 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: Be grateful for. 319 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: I'm just tired, but yeah, life has been really good 320 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 2: over here. Let's talk about confront a little bit. How 321 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: did you come about this month? 322 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it was funny because I know that 323 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: an I think we talked about it on here when 324 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: we first said the word, like, obviously we try and 325 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: keep things light and fun on Friday from edge correct 326 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: and confront on the surface, and when yeah, we first 327 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: landed on it, it felt confrontational, you know, like it 328 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: doesn't sound like a light word. And but I do 329 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: think it's like we found some really interesting ways to 330 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: look at it. Yeah, And you know, at the end 331 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: of the day, we talk about communication being you know, 332 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: paramount to everything, and you know, confrontation is a form 333 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: of communication. And you know, just like you can't know 334 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: what real happiness is unless you like let your let 335 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: yourself feel sad. And it's right again, it's like you 336 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: can't be happy if you are sweeping mad under the 337 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: rug too or unhappy under the rug. And you know, 338 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: sometimes we have you have to stand up for yourself. 339 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: It's the self preservation thing at times. So I thought 340 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: it was really interesting to sort of look at, you know, 341 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: how confront thing. Confrontation can be actually good And you know, 342 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: I think it's as long as you're working toward a 343 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: positive goal when you're confronting something, it's a good thing. 344 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: It might not be comfortable right for either person, but 345 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: I do think in the end, confrontation is really a superpower. 346 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: Like if you can master confrontation, like you really could 347 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: do anything, because you'll know how to confront walls that 348 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: you put up for yourself, You'll know how to confront 349 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: walls that others put up for you. You'll know how 350 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: to get through really hard times with whether it's relationships 351 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: or people at work or any sort of you know, partnership, 352 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: Like it's really important because you know, nobody's going to 353 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: do this life alone, you know, whether it's work or 354 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: play or whatever. So I don't know, it was like 355 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: in the end, I thought it was a really interesting word. Yeah, 356 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: you know, it played right into our hands. 357 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: It really did. 358 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: I think you kind of hit the nail on the 359 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: head as far as it allowing us to be to 360 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: kind of live our best lives. Like that was something 361 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: I talked to you. Remember our girl Terry Cole, she's 362 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: the boundary of Boss and she came on the Edge 363 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: actually a couple months ago, and talked about. 364 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: How to set boundaries with us. I love her. 365 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: She's a psychotherapist, she's the author obviously of that book. 366 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: But I had her back on. 367 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: This week to talk about just what healthy confrontation looks like. 368 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: And one of the points that she made was just, 369 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: you know, you can't live life without having things to confront. 370 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: You just can't, Like, you can't have really true, authentic 371 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: relationships without having something that comes up. Even if it's 372 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: like the relationship is great, there's just gonna be stuff. 373 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: It's like two humans ever, like navigating anything is gonna 374 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: there's gonna be her difficult. Yeah, we all and we 375 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: all have our own like past, our own shit or 376 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: whatever it is. And so the more that we learn 377 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: to do that in a healthy way, but also to 378 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: take ownership of our own feelings and learn how to 379 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 2: communicate about them, just like you said, that really does 380 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: open up us, open us up into like living. 381 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: A whole life, like a bigger life, a. 382 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 2: More aligned life. Things that we weren't even aware we 383 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: were missing might fly in and I just I don't know. 384 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: I just have such a peace about. 385 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: That and knowing that, like the more we actually try 386 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: to stuff that down. Like if you're not confronting anything 387 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: in your life or having confrontation, healthy confrontation in your relationships, 388 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: something is not authentic, right because that's just like you're 389 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: not communicating. So I just think we miss out on 390 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: so much. So I love the topic too, and it 391 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: really did bring up a lot for me. Is there 392 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: one thing like specifically you would say you learned well, 393 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 2: I mean. 394 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 3: I definitely had to. You know, I won't go into 395 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: specifics because it's work stuff, and I you know, I 396 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 3: am pretty open about some things, but like there it 397 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 3: was a challenging week last week and I had to 398 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: sort of confront something and knowing that, like, I think 399 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 3: because I had read so much about confrontation for this podcast, 400 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: it gave me some of the skills to like feel 401 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: comfortable in it because it's like, look, I don't I 402 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: don't think it's good for people just to be confrontational people, 403 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: you know, like, that's not I don't think the goal here. 404 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: I think it's a healthy confrontation. No, it's healthy confrontation. 405 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 3: And you know, I think one of the most important 406 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 3: things about confrontation is that you have built a rapport 407 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 3: with somebody that you're trying to save or rescue or 408 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: whatever it is. And if the person knows that you're 409 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 3: coming from a place of caring, then it makes it 410 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: a whole lot easier, even if it's not comfortable. Yeah, 411 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: So there, you know, there was a moment where I 412 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: really had to stand up for myself at work and 413 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: I felt fine about it. And normally I wouldn't have 414 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 3: because I would have been more worried about like the 415 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 3: aftermath of it and just avoided the whole thing. But 416 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: I can look at it now and then like if 417 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 3: I hadn't done that, I would still be sitting in 418 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 3: a place where I'm not comfortable. Sure, that's and that's 419 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 3: not fair, you know. It's like and we got past it, 420 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 3: you know, like right now in the past, and no 421 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 3: one's harping on it. We got through it and it's done, 422 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 3: And had I not confronted it, I might still be 423 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 3: dealing with it. 424 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: Well. 425 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: Also, you set up I think that, I mean, you 426 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: told me the story obviously, so I know it, but 427 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: like to keep it vague and so that it's not 428 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: just like talking to details about your work life. But 429 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: like I feel like what you did, you were able 430 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: to do it in a kind way. And it was 431 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: also like using your voice, so you stayed in your power. 432 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: Like I feel like so many times in the past 433 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: we both have been guilty of this where we just 434 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: give our power away because we want to keep the peace. 435 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: But it ends upcoming back in the like in the 436 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: future lingers, and it sets the dynamic up to be 437 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: one where that's going to happen again, because it's like, 438 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: once it happens and you give your power away, that's 439 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 2: what you communicate to the other person, is okay, right, 440 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: And so that would have just become the dynamic. And 441 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 2: now hopefully it's like no, we know, Chip can't be 442 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 2: walked all over or whatever it is, and or it's 443 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 2: going to be called to the table and I'm gonna 444 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: have to actually deal. And so yeah, like I just 445 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: think that you did a really good job. I'm glad 446 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: that like what you had learned here. 447 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 3: Helped with that. Yeah, look at us changing lots. God, 448 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 3: it's hey, all you know, if we change one life, 449 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: they've done our jobs. 450 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't even know if anyone listening. 451 00:20:52,680 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: This is like our phone call of the week. I 452 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: had a similar situation. 453 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: There wasn't like there hasn't been a specific action that's 454 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: been taken yet, but I've been kind of grappling. It's 455 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 2: a work slash friendship situation for me, and it plays 456 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: into some other things going on in my life. 457 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: And when I was talking. 458 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: To Terry she I was really like trying to pick 459 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: her brain about healthy confrontation, because I know I've definitely 460 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 2: played my part in unhealthy confrontation in. 461 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: The past, like whether it's that I stuffed. 462 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 2: Things and then I explode or I'm just not dealing 463 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: with things head on so that I'm I'm like people 464 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: pleasing and trying to keep everyone happy versus actually just 465 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: owning my truth whatever it is. I'm definitely contributed. And 466 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 2: so I was kind of quizzing her because I don't 467 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: know exactly how to handle this certain situation. And one 468 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: of the issues is is that the person that I'm 469 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: in this situation with, I'm not sure how they're going 470 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: to take it, and so like I feel like I 471 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: want a tiptoe and I want to you know, I'm 472 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 2: doing the thing where I'm like, well, if I just 473 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: say it this one right way, like then everything might 474 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: be fine. And so that puts so much pressure on 475 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: how I handle it, first of all, but second of all, 476 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 2: it's just like I'm not being authentic again when I'm 477 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: doing that, I'm people pleasing or being codependent or whatever 478 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: you want to call it. And so I really got 479 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: to the fact of like I can only do my 480 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: part in confrontation in general, like I want to make 481 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: sure that I'm bringing the healthiest version of that that 482 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: I can, you know, to the table, but like the 483 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,239 Speaker 2: other side of it is the other side of it, 484 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 2: and I can't control it, Like I can't control how 485 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: that person reacts, I can't control how they take what 486 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 2: I say, I can't control what they do with it after, 487 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: and so I have to release them and know that 488 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: Like in my life, I genuinely at this point at 489 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: almost forty one next month, by the way, is it 490 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: just kidding? No, I do I feel good? I love forties. 491 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 2: But yeah, like at this point in my life, I 492 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: really don't want relationships even if their work or whatever 493 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 2: they are work friendship's romantic, where healthy confrontation isn't happening, 494 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 2: or that confrontation in general is just one sided. Like 495 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: if I can't bring that to the table and it 496 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: be received, I'm not sure, that's a healthy situation for 497 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: me to be in period. 498 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean you certainly cannot control anyone else's 499 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: reaction to it. What you control is your method of 500 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: delivering it. It's going to be with kindness and caring. 501 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 3: You can control like when you do it, because timing 502 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 3: can be everything you're not going to want to, like 503 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: when it's a really bad moment for the person to 504 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 3: receive it and drop bombs and yeah and that like 505 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: and also too if you at the end of it, 506 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 3: you can be like, I hope this is something that 507 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: we can get through. I really value our friendship like totally. 508 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: Then that's all you can do. 509 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: And then it's like up to them to take care 510 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: of their side of the street. It's scary, I would 511 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: I would be lying if I didn't say, especially because 512 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: because of how I've been in the past. You know, 513 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: I think when you're trying to change behaviors, it feels 514 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: really uncomfortable at first, but I also feel. 515 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 1: Very at peace. 516 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 2: And this month with our topics, it's just really reiterated 517 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: to me, like I have to confront the my own 518 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: shit in my own life, and that means. 519 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: Good and bad. 520 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: Like we've had a lot of other guests, or I've 521 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 2: had a lot of other guests on the velvet side 522 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: of things who have faced challenges or themselves and just 523 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: like face them head on and they're like, Hey, this 524 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: is what I want for my life. And I feel 525 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: I feel like very in that time of my life, 526 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: like this is what I want for my life, This 527 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: is the kind of relationships that I want, This is 528 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: who I want to be, and all I can do 529 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: is operate that way and then everything else is. 530 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: Up to the universe. So right, yeah, we should. 531 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 3: I think it's a really powerful, mature place to be. 532 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 3: And I know whenever I have someone that comes to 533 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: me and maturely confront something, I always appreciate it. 534 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: Me too, and that but to me, that shows the 535 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: health of the other person, you know, I mean, or 536 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: it's like sometimes we have reactions initially and then we 537 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: can process through them. But like if a person isn't 538 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 2: capable of that, like what am I doing wasting my 539 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: energy and time? Like I have spent way too many 540 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: years trying to like hold the relationship for both people 541 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: and I cannot do that anymore. Like it it's literally 542 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: almost killed me. So yeah, so I don't know It 543 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: was very freeing when I got to that piece and 544 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: just kind of like settling into you know, I can 545 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 2: only do my part. 546 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens there you go. 547 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: We did have a couple of emails come in that 548 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: specifically to me, asked questions that felt confronting. So should 549 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: we should we give the listeners little advice? So we've 550 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: we've not done this in a minute to have started 551 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: reading an email as. 552 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: I said that I'm here, I'm here. 553 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: Are you typing? I'm trying it. Let's confront this. Okay. 554 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: This came from Megan. She said, Hi, love your pod. 555 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: Just ended things with my boyfriend of three point five years. 556 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: Any insight on how to move forward, especially with the 557 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: feeling of shame around being alone but now, but no, 558 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: he's not the person for me in your thirties. So 559 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: she basically got to the point where she's like, this 560 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: is not my person. Timeline sucks because like time's ticking. 561 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's the pressure we feel as women, right, Yeah, 562 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 2: you've mentioned before that you don't really relate to this 563 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 2: at all. 564 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: Well no, not really. I mean I can relate to 565 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: the like being in a relationship where you're like, oh, fuck, 566 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: this isn't the right thing. Yeah, but there being other 567 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: factors that make it scary to end it, you know, 568 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 3: Like you know, I moved here with a boyfriend and 569 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 3: we were like living in a house together, and it 570 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 3: was like right, he was going to be homeless, you know, 571 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, So I mean there are those those 572 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: things that like affect a decision. But yeah, the ticking 573 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 3: time of like you know, what's it called nature's clock? 574 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: What do you call that? 575 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: I sort of feel like this is when you send 576 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: me like all the memes about vaginas, Like I love 577 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 2: when you try to reference. 578 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 3: Anything about what is that called? 579 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: Though? 580 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 581 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: Like nature? I guess like I actually don't know. 582 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 3: Something, Yeah, like your internal clock. 583 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: Like internal clock maybe that's yeah, whatever, biological. 584 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: Clock, biological clock, that's that's the wording. Okay, So yeah, 585 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 3: I mean I that that I don't relate to, but 586 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 3: I you know, I will say that, like, as scary 587 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 3: as it is, it's a lot scary to be stuck 588 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 3: in a relationship that's not for you, Amen, and opening 589 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: yourself up to the possibility, opening yourself up to the 590 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: possibility of finding the right person shouldn't be scary because 591 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 3: now you can you know, so, I think you have 592 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 3: to look at the positive side of it, and you know, 593 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 3: I know loneliness is a thing, but like, don't feel shame. 594 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: You should be really proud of yourself for sure taking 595 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 3: that step, because if that is scary. 596 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that you just said that you shouldn't 597 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: feel shame, because it's like, first of all, I guess 598 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: the main thing that came up for me when I 599 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 2: initially read this was I totally relate in the thirties specifically, 600 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: I think that women feel that pressure immensely. 601 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: Excuse me, I hick up. 602 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 2: They feel it immensely because like in your twenties, it's 603 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: kind of all fun and games, like you're just having 604 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: crushes all the time. Maybe it doesn't feel very it 605 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: doesn't like feel like it has to be very serious. 606 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 2: And then when you get to thirty even it starts 607 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: to feel a little more like, Okay, I can't make 608 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: the excuse of I'm in my twenties anymore. I don't 609 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: need to worry about that. I'm just gonna have fun. 610 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: Like you just kind of start to feel like life 611 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: is a little more serious and you're more of an adult. 612 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: And so yeah, you start to look at things a 613 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: little differently. But the thing about the timelines, and I 614 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: do get that it's a little more difficult if you 615 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: want to have kids, But like, ultimately, the main thing 616 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: that I've learned is that shit is made up, like 617 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: it's beat into our head from day one. But it's 618 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: just this like human construct that we've created that isn't real. 619 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: Like everyone in this life is on a different journey, 620 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: and to try to say that we should live our 621 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: lives all the same is fucking ridiculous, Like it's just 622 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: not real. And I'm here to learn my lessons so 623 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: that my soul can evolve, and so are you, and 624 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: so is Megan, and so is her ex and like 625 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: all the things. And if that relationship served its like 626 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: served its purpose for the season that it did, that's okay. 627 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: Like not all relationships are supposed to last forever, and 628 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: in fact, like most won't, you know, But that doesn't 629 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: mean it didn't bring something to your life, into your 630 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: soul for its next evolution. So I guess my like, 631 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: if I have to give one advice, it would be 632 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: to really try to let go of the idea that 633 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: your life needs to look like anyone else's and just 634 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: embrace where you are now and like try to stay 635 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: open to what the universe is bringing to you, because 636 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: you can't bring in new good stuff while you're still 637 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: holding onto the past. Like right, it sounds like that 638 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: relationship wasn't serving you, so like you said, good for 639 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: you for letting it go, and you're just opening yourself 640 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: up to something greater, Like there's only gifts coming your way. 641 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: That's how I. 642 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: Feel, and especially if you stay open to that. Like I'm, 643 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: like I said, about to turn forty one, I have 644 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: absolutely no fear about relationships anymore. 645 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: It's wild. 646 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: Like I used to feel like, oh my god, time 647 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: is ticking, my life is over. I'm never whatever, but 648 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: like I don't feel it, And so it's opened my 649 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: dating life up to so much more fun enjoy and 650 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: everyone who's coming is teaching me something and however long 651 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: they stay great and if they need to go, okay, 652 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: like it's just it'll be okay, you know. 653 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: Right, If you are. 654 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: Worried about kids, go freeze your eggs, start saving your money, 655 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: start doing like you have options, right, So I would 656 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: just really try to let go of fitting your life 657 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: into a little box and like, go do you this 658 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: is the time to shine girl. 659 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: Well yeah, and when doing yourself, that's when someone's going 660 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: to see the authentic you, yes, and be like there's 661 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 3: my girl y. 662 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: Yes. 663 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: Like getting to know yourself. It's like I kind of 664 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: hate when people talk about you can't love anyone else 665 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: until you love yourself. But I do think the truth 666 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: in that statement is like, until you know yourself, it 667 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: is difficult to find a relationship that works for you, 668 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: you know, because and that was like a lot of 669 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: my thirties was I didn't know who the fuck I 670 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: was at all. I think you guys probably knew me 671 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: more than I knew me, if that makes sense. Like 672 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: I'm talking about my friend group, like you all could 673 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: see who I was more than I could, Like I 674 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: was still testing things out to be like am I 675 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 2: this person? Am I that person? 676 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: You know? 677 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: And now I can sit a little more confidently and no, 678 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: I am this person. Even the bad parts are like 679 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: the hard parts, and it is interesting, like you said, 680 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: what it's bringing in is so much more aligned and 681 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: makes me so much happier than anything else I've had. 682 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: So look, you're growing too. 683 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: I'm trying always. Okay, here's another one. This one comes 684 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: from Nikki. She said, I'm sorry, I was trying to 685 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: write an email. She's slid into my DMS. I feel like, 686 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: but I feel like I or my job is attracting 687 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: so many people that quote unquote want things from me 688 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: or I find out months later friendships were purely one 689 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: sided so they could enjoy the perks. I even had 690 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: an old friend call me out online for not helping 691 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: her business with my job. I mean, apparently I'm doing 692 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: something right that people want from me, but they don't 693 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: invite me trying to connect because I make things happen. 694 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: So basically she's feeling used is the summary of that. 695 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm getting played more and more. 696 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: I love connecting with people, like you say, Kelly, but 697 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: lately the balance is off. I don't want to be 698 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: the planner all the time in work and play. I 699 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: guess it would be like if every person you come 700 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: into contact with constantly ask you if their outfit was good. 701 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: That's funny, you ask me if I look at that, 702 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: and I'm like, nope, not worried about you. I invite 703 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: people to my work events because I can, but not 704 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: everyone gets that invite. But I let friends go because 705 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: I let a friend go because she made judgy comments 706 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: about me while I was in work. Mod I had 707 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: to stop because having her for company while out was 708 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: becoming hurtful. My true friends say, you need celebrity a 709 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: micro celebrity boot camp. Everybody wants to be with you. 710 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm not screening situations. 711 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 3: Well help. 712 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: You might deal with this a little bit in your job. 713 00:33:51,000 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I feel like, hmm, yeah, I 714 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 3: potentially I do. I don't. I feel like I've I 715 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 3: surround myself with good people. You do that have like 716 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 3: gotten I mean probably the worst culprit though, would be 717 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: my sister. But I don't ever feel like she's using me, 718 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: you know, Like I just think that like and and 719 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: it's yeah, I think the one thing she doesn't recognize 720 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: is that, like any favor that I ask on her 721 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 3: behalf is one less favor that I can ask for myself. Sure, 722 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So, but I'm happy to 723 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 3: like I want to get her whatever she wants, you know, Like, 724 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: I'm yeah to do that. So I haven't really you know, 725 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: It's been very rare that I have felt that I'm 726 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 3: being used. But the interesting thing is, like sometimes in 727 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 3: like the dating space, I'm definitely recognized when I am 728 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 3: trying to like use it to my advantage too, you know. 729 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so, and sometimes that's dangerous because then ultimately 730 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: you feel like you're being you Like you're like if 731 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 3: it doesn't, if you're not clicking, you're like, now they're 732 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 3: just using me, you know. 733 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 2: And sure, yeah, but then ultimately you were the one 734 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: who started I was the. 735 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: One that started it. So you know, I think we're 736 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 3: all a little guilty of it because it's Yeah, I 737 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: think sometimes that you know, it's really important with work 738 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 3: to not let your work define who you are, I know, 739 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 3: and in those instances that's like me being like part 740 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 3: of me is like this special access I can get you, 741 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: and that's not me. You know. If this person is 742 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 3: not going to like me, they're not going to like me. 743 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 3: If they're gonna like me, they're gonna like me. Sure, 744 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 3: no matter what I do. The other stuff is just 745 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 3: like icing. Yeah, So I do think it's important for 746 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 3: Niki to like remember that, like her job isn't what 747 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 3: she does, or isn't her job isn't who she is, 748 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 3: And if she feels like anyone in her life is 749 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 3: starting to look at her as her job. Then it's 750 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 3: probably a good time to stop inviting them to do 751 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: the fun things that your job, you know, in titles 752 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 3: you too, so that people stop associating and then like 753 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 3: your real friends will appreciate the time away from work 754 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 3: with you a lot more. I mean, for us working 755 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 3: in music, a lot of what I like to do 756 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 3: in my free time is go to see shows. You know, 757 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: It's just what I love to do. So and it's 758 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 3: it's harder for me because I don't think of those 759 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: as like work things. I think of those as things 760 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 3: that I'm getting to do and I want some friends 761 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 3: to come along with me. So it's a little bit different. 762 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: But don't you feel like, for the most part, like 763 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: you would be talking about when you say friends, you're 764 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: talking about our friends a lot of coworkers well and 765 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 2: co workers, and it's like people that we've been friends 766 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 2: with for so long that I think we've developed the 767 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 2: relationship ahead of time. So like, I guess my point 768 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: is saying, like you made a great point when you said, 769 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 2: I have to realize when I'm leading with that and 770 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: dating because I don't know these yes, like you have 771 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 2: to kind of earn that sort that space in your life. 772 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 2: Mm hm, yes, yeah, correct, I love that point. I 773 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 2: think that is really great. And also, like I do 774 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: talk about this a lot where I feel like I 775 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: can get in that one sided dynamic where everyone just 776 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 2: like wants something from me, but like ultimately that's on me. 777 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 2: It always goes back to me. Like if I have 778 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: actually had a couple friends going through really hard times, 779 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 2: and I have myself have had a lot on my plate, 780 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 2: and so I've had to really like catch myself because 781 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: I can start overgiving and taking on their problems as 782 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: my own because I do want to help them. They 783 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 2: are people that I love. But if it's taking away, 784 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: like if it's giving so much energy that I'm not 785 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 2: able to function in my own life, that's not good 786 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 2: for either of us, Like and I know they wouldn't 787 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: ultimately want me to do that, and so that's when 788 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 2: I have to start setting boundaries. Mostly the boundaries are 789 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: with myself if I'm being really honest, like I feel 790 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: like most of my friends are very accepting of mean 791 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 2: like needing to stay to boundary. It's mostly like I 792 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 2: have to watch myself sort of like what you're saying 793 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: with the dating to where I'm holding true to myself 794 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: in my schedule and my needs first, and then when 795 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: i'm my cup is full, saying okay, like what can 796 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: I do? Because if we're depleted in our and we're 797 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 2: on empty, like we're not good for anyone else either. 798 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 2: So I think there's it's like a multiple thing. It's like, 799 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: don't lead with that, like you said, like let people 800 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: earn that space in your life. And then also if 801 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 2: you continuously are finding this dynamic, like it might be 802 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 2: time to look at why or like how much you're 803 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 2: giving in a relationship and if you're holding boundaries with 804 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: yourself or kind of cause I think kind of like 805 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 2: we'll keep attracting the same thing until we learn the 806 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: last thing. So like exactly if you're continuously in that, 807 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 2: then there's something the universe is trying to show you. 808 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 2: So that's what I got on that one. 809 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 3: There you go. 810 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 2: It's always about looking in the mirror, you know, right, It's. 811 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 3: Well, especially when it's something that is habitual, is not 812 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 3: the work. If it's you're seeing it come up a 813 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 3: lot in your life, Oh yeah, then I think it's 814 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 3: important to look in the mirror and be like, well, 815 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 3: maybe it's not. 816 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: What's the common denominated? 817 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well yeah, like I talked about that with 818 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: Terry too. 819 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: Should you know? 820 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 2: Our instinct des humans is to always look at the 821 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: other person. It's so much easier to put blame, like, 822 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 2: especially when we're confronting new issues in our life. It's 823 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 2: just like, well they did this, but like, what's your 824 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: part in it? And that's not to say they're not 825 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 2: doing anything. You just can't control them, so you can 826 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 2: only control yourself anyway. That's our phase. Uh huh. Do 827 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: you have anything else? I can't even say it without laughing, though. 828 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 2: Do you have anything else you want to give to 829 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 2: the people about this month of confrontation or confronting? 830 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 3: No, I'll just reiterate to like, remember to be as 831 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 3: kind as possible when confronting things, whether it's to yourself 832 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 3: or to others. 833 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you guys haven't listened to the Terry 834 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 2: podcast yet, she gave an amazing example of how she 835 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 2: confronted something with her husband that I loved, Like, she 836 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: sat with it for a minute until she and she 837 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 2: couldn't like something kept coming. 838 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 3: Up for her. 839 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: She sat with it to try to figure out but 840 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 2: it was the behavior he was doing, but it was 841 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 2: about something in her and she never actually figured out 842 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 2: exactly what it was with her, but the way she 843 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 2: approached the conversation with him was with so much ownership 844 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 2: and then just asking for what you need. And I 845 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: just loved it. It like really helped me. So go 846 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 2: check out that podcast with Terry Cole. We also just 847 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: had a bunch of fun guests. One I did tell 848 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 2: you I really the one thing popping up in my life. 849 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 2: And we're not going to get to this topic today, 850 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: but if anyone else has any thoughts on this al 851 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 2: Pacino situation. 852 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 3: Oh lord, I can't get off it. 853 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 2: Like I literally cannot get off the fact that this 854 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 2: eighty three year old man just had a baby with 855 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 2: a twenty nine year old I'm shuk. Yeah, nobody, there's 856 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 2: one person in my life who gave me the reaction 857 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 2: I wanted, and everyone else is kind of like why 858 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 2: do you care? 859 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that's kind of where I said, It's like 860 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 3: why do I care? 861 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 2: But it's also a lot I don't know, fine, but 862 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 2: he's eighty three, Like, I can't believe you can still 863 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 2: get it up. 864 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 3: I know, well, I'm sure there's a pill involved, but 865 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: maybe but like his sperm is still good. It's the best. 866 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: Stuff fucked up thing about life. The men can have 867 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: kids until. 868 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 2: Literally the day they die, and we literally have a 869 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 2: geriatric pregnancy at the age of thirty five. 870 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: Don't even get me started on this. 871 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 3: Und don't even get me started. It's just like a 872 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 3: hold water. We don't have this wild. 873 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so it is literally, like it's why you 874 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 2: guys don't feel the pressure. I mean, like, I know 875 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 2: you're you're in a gay relationship, and so I think 876 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: it's a little different. But in hetero relationships, like there's 877 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: so much of that Peter Pansy dream, and guys are like, 878 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 2: what's the rush, And we're like, there's such a rush, Like, right, 879 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 2: we have to live in the rush, you know, we're 880 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 2: forced to. And so we're also forced, I think, to 881 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 2: grow up a lot faster in a lot of ways. 882 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, if I was a dude, I'd be like, whoa, 883 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 2: I can have a baby at eighty three, bitch. 884 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 3: God. I mean that's but like maybe it is a 885 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 3: self preservation thing too, because women take on so much 886 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 3: work in the role of being a mother. Could you 887 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 3: imagine if you were a new mother at eighty five 888 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 3: years old. 889 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: You couldn't be. 890 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 3: You couldn't. I think dad can just like go watch 891 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 3: TV and like a normal you know at any a 892 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 3: that's what they're doing. You know, it's like yeah, and 893 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 3: that's I'm stereotyping. I know it's not every doubt, but 894 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 3: man's one. 895 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: You think al Pacino is, let's talk. 896 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 3: Because he know the kid's name, who knows, he probably 897 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 3: will have trouble remembering it at that age. So I 898 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 3: just er four, Oh. 899 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 2: My god, his kids, his other kids are older than 900 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 2: his new baby mama. 901 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm being so judgy right now. I know. 902 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 2: It's just one of those topics that I like, saw 903 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 2: the headline this week and I like skip past it, 904 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 2: and then I was scrolling more and then I was like, 905 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 2: wait what And I went back and I went on 906 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 2: such a deep dive of that girl because everyone too 907 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 2: was like, well, money can buy a lot or whatever. 908 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 2: That girl's rich. She's like a royal. They have billions 909 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: of dollars. She doesn't need money. Also, guess who she 910 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 2: dated before al Pacino? Hell, Nick Jagger in his seventies. 911 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 3: Wow, she likes at least she's consistent. 912 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 2: I mean, she doesn't even have daddy issues. She has 913 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 2: granddaddy issues right heels. I just like there's I don't know, 914 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 2: I know way too much about this family now, but 915 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 2: her sister dated Prince Michael Jackson. Prince Jackson. Oh really, 916 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 2: do you have any questions about this family? You, guys, 917 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 2: email me at the edge at me velvet dot com 918 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 2: because I know everything. 919 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 3: All right, casual, I'm trying my brain sometimes just won't 920 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 3: let me be anyway. 921 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 2: Like I said, you can email us at the edge 922 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 2: at velvet edge dot com. You can also hit me 923 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 2: up on Instagram. I'm at Velvet's Edge, Chip. 924 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 3: I'm at Chip DOORSH. It's c H I P D 925 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 3: O R S C H. 926 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 2: And as you guys are going into the weekend and 927 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,240 Speaker 2: you're living on the edge, I hope you can remember 928 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 2: to do this way more than I can and always 929 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 2: remember to a. 930 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 3: Casual. 931 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 2: Wow, you really made us like wait for that one. 932 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 3: Wow, it was like actual I think maybe too loud. Okay, 933 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: all right, bye bye