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Speaker 1: time Cowboys reporter, joined by our man, former Cowboys safety
Speaker 1: Barry Church, our our other one and mate Danny mccraize.
Speaker 1: Got the week off, so Church, we're gonna go. We've
Speaker 1: got a whole lot of topics to get to here.
Speaker 1: It's April Fools Day, so we're not going to do
Speaker 1: anything crazy here, especially knowing that your your wife already
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, So I get up, crusted all
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Speaker 1: going on? Man? So I get to the garage door.
Speaker 1: April fools. Man, You know, it took me a minute
Speaker 1: to laugh because I was kind of mad at first,
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I forgot those April fools.
Speaker 1: So she got me. She got me a good one
Speaker 1: the day. And see she got you because she knows.
Speaker 1: She knows that that that hot button point and you
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Speaker 1: my car? So yeah, yeah, she got good. All right,
Speaker 1: let's dive into something that you're talking about the Cowboy fans.
Speaker 1: Something they want, and let's dive into the why it
Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet. Talking about linebacker kJ Wright looking at
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys in terms of trying to improve this
Speaker 1: football team. Something we talked about here on the Players Lives.
Speaker 1: I've advocated its hey, bring in some guys that no
Speaker 1: dan Quinn system, we did. You saw him do it
Speaker 1: with coaches, You've done it with some players. Why not
Speaker 1: adding even better player than Keyan O'Neill and Demante Casey
Speaker 1: and kJ Wright who spent ten years as a linebacker
Speaker 1: with the Seattle Seahawks. He's won a World championship there
Speaker 1: and he's a free agent now. So kJ Wright, thirty
Speaker 1: one years old, started sixteen games the last two seasons,
Speaker 1: eighty six tackles, one interception, ten passes defended last year
Speaker 1: and eleven tackles for loss of twenty sixteen Pro Bowler.
Speaker 1: What do you like about right and why do you
Speaker 1: want them? Look to me, I think kJ would be
Speaker 1: an upgrade over what we have at the linebacker position
Speaker 1: right now. I mean no disrespect to Lvee and Jalen Smith,
Speaker 1: but I just believe kJ is an upgrade. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: he can go out there and he can be that
Speaker 1: guy that covers so that you don't have to bring
Speaker 1: a safety down or get one of these secondary players
Speaker 1: to come down to cover a tight end. Because as
Speaker 1: you just mentioned, last year, he had ten passes defense,
Speaker 1: and that's huge for any defensive to have ten passes defense.
Speaker 1: But he did that at the linebacker position, and if
Speaker 1: you saw what he did at the Seattle defense or
Speaker 1: what he's done for the Seattle defense, he was that
Speaker 1: cover guy even when they had Cam Chancellor and Earl
Speaker 1: Thomas back there. He was that guy that took away
Speaker 1: tight ends and allow Cam Chancellor to be that that thumper,
Speaker 1: that that rat, that low hole player that looks for
Speaker 1: crossers and just uses his instinct to make plays out there.
Speaker 1: So I think it'd be a huge upgrade we were
Speaker 1: able to get kJ right. He has the long arms
Speaker 1: and like I said, he can cover and he's an
Speaker 1: all down linebacker. He can play against the run, so
Speaker 1: he can be your first and second down guy, and
Speaker 1: he can play against the pass so he can be
Speaker 1: that third down guy. The only thing I don't really
Speaker 1: necessary love about the move if we try to get
Speaker 1: kJ right, even though I see it as an upgrade,
Speaker 1: it's what are you gonna do with Keyan O'Neil. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got him in here to be that linebacker, that
Speaker 1: hybrid linebacker, maybe a third down sub package guy, and
Speaker 1: basically kJ Wright can do all that and more because
Speaker 1: he can be your first and second down linebacker. So
Speaker 1: if you bring him in there, what are we gonna
Speaker 1: do with Kyan O'Neil, or we gonna move transisted him
Speaker 1: all the way back to be that primary strong safety.
Speaker 1: And to me, I don't think that's a good move.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen this guy in the past. Yes
Speaker 1: he's a thumper, Yes he's a good box safety, but
Speaker 1: when you put him in a deep end of the field,
Speaker 1: when you make him that true safety, he struggles. And
Speaker 1: he struggles in coverage as well, either zone or man,
Speaker 1: he can struggle. So for me, I like where Keyan
Speaker 1: O'Neil is right now being that sub linebacker. But if
Speaker 1: you bring in an upgrade like kJ Wright, something has
Speaker 1: to happen. Either you move Keyan O'Neil back, you take
Speaker 1: you know, snaps away from Jalen Smith, or you get
Speaker 1: rid of Jalen Smith altogether. I'm not sure what that
Speaker 1: cap hit'll be because you know, his salary I believe
Speaker 1: is fully guaranteed now as of a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago or a couple of days ago. So for me,
Speaker 1: I just don't understand what you would do bringing him in,
Speaker 1: even though he's an upgrade, and even though he can
Speaker 1: help this defense immensely. You just already have so many
Speaker 1: players in those pieces. I would go I would go
Speaker 1: ahead and do it, and I would get rid of
Speaker 1: Jaylen Raley, or I would just put him in there
Speaker 1: and with Kean O'Neil on third downs. But overall, it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't know what to do, even though
Speaker 1: I see him as an upgrade, which you gotta see
Speaker 1: what the front office thinks. All right, So let me
Speaker 1: look at the Seattle end of this before I go
Speaker 1: back into the Dallas Cowboys positive of trying to bring
Speaker 1: in a kJ right ten year player. We're talking about
Speaker 1: a guy who's been there, Walter Payton Man of the
Speaker 1: Year nominee, so, you know, a good guy overall. Why
Speaker 1: haven't they got him a new deal. We're talking about
Speaker 1: a team that consistently competes in the playoffs. Does that
Speaker 1: not set off a red flag and for you that, hey,
Speaker 1: here's a real good football player. They're saying, we don't know.
Speaker 1: I could see that, but it's like, you know, like
Speaker 1: you just mentioned, he played sixteen games the past two seasons,
Speaker 1: so it's not like he's injury prone or he's missing
Speaker 1: games out here. And yeah, he's getting up there in
Speaker 1: the age. Once you cross that that thirty threshold of the
Speaker 1: the NFL, everybody kind of starts looking at you like
Speaker 1: a grandpa. But he's still making plays out there, and
Speaker 1: he's still playing at a high level. You just mentioned
Speaker 1: the ten passes defense. So for me, man, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure why they haven't brought him back. I mean, maybe they're,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get younger or going towards this rebuild.
Speaker 1: But to me, he still has the ability to play,
Speaker 1: and he still has to be able the ability to
Speaker 1: play at a high level. So I'm not quite sure
Speaker 1: why you know, Pete Carroll and the Seahawks haven't brought
Speaker 1: him back, But hopefully the Cowboys can go ahead and
Speaker 1: make that move for him. See if I were in
Speaker 1: scouting and i'm Will McClay, that's the question I want
Speaker 1: to answer like a good lord. Yeah, let me figure
Speaker 1: out and find out why I do not have Why
Speaker 1: this player does not have a contract when he's been
Speaker 1: so good for so long in this organization. That that's
Speaker 1: something I dive into. Now. On the flip side, if
Speaker 1: you're Dan Quinn, obviously to get a player that knows
Speaker 1: your system, who you've won a Super Bowl with, that's valuable,
Speaker 1: and I can see the move for the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: why they'd want a kJ Right. Here comes the next
Speaker 1: question you have, what does he want? You know that
Speaker 1: that truly is the big thing there. What does what
Speaker 1: does kJ Right want to me? If I'm a good
Speaker 1: football player and I'm out here this year in this market,
Speaker 1: especially since the first wave of free agency and the
Speaker 1: good money's gone, I would like a one year deal
Speaker 1: so I can put myself in a position next year
Speaker 1: that the cap can go up a little bit more
Speaker 1: and possibly get myself a multi year deal. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, he's thirty one years old, so he
Speaker 1: may be looking for a multi year deal right now
Speaker 1: to say, hey, look, I don't know what thirty two
Speaker 1: if somebody's gonna be willing to give me one as
Speaker 1: a linebacker? So what does kJ want Right want in
Speaker 1: order to play for the Dallas Cowboys? And if I'm
Speaker 1: kJ Right, you know I'm looking at Lavonte David. I
Speaker 1: think they're about the same age. I think maybe David
Speaker 1: maybe thirty and kJ Race thirty one. But he just
Speaker 1: got a multi year deal with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: where I think he's getting eleven eleven per year if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. So there's money to be had out
Speaker 1: there for him in that age range. But you, like
Speaker 1: you said, if I'm him, I might be just signing
Speaker 1: the one year and hopefully they can give him for
Speaker 1: maybe a one for six or one for seven, and
Speaker 1: then when that money taps in with that TV agreement
Speaker 1: with the NFL and those in the cat goes skyrockets
Speaker 1: back up, he'll be able to hit the market again
Speaker 1: for a multi year deal. But like you're saying that,
Speaker 1: by the time that hits, I mean he might be
Speaker 1: thirty two, thirty three by that time. And yeah, that
Speaker 1: age it is hard. It's really hard to get a
Speaker 1: multiple year deal unless you're a quarterback at that age
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So he may be looking to hit it,
Speaker 1: hit it one last time, hit hit a big deal
Speaker 1: one last time, like Lavonte David did. But if he's
Speaker 1: looking for that, sadly mistaken the Cowboys or not, I
Speaker 1: don't think they'll be in the plans of making him
Speaker 1: a multi year deal. I think this is more of
Speaker 1: a one and done type deal. And if they can
Speaker 1: get that done, I'm all for it. All right, you're
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Speaker 1: if you have kJ Right, Layton Banderash and Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: plus a Keyan O'Neil, if you're going into um a
Speaker 1: nickel package, who are the two linebackers you want out there?
Speaker 1: If you say we have kJ right, if you add
Speaker 1: kJ right, who you know? You know you're going into
Speaker 1: a nickel and dime situation. Who's going off the field. Yeah?
Speaker 1: If if it's a nickel situation, which is usually just
Speaker 1: two linebackers in there, I'm going with kJ and I'm
Speaker 1: going with lve. The reason I'm taking Jalen and Keyan
Speaker 1: o nile out one with Keyan O'Neil. If if they
Speaker 1: do decide to run the ball and get us in
Speaker 1: nickel and bring on eleven personnel just to get us
Speaker 1: in nickel to run the ball, I gotta have a
Speaker 1: bigger body in there. You know nothing against you know,
Speaker 1: Keyano Nil. I know he's a thumper down in there,
Speaker 1: But when you get those three hundred pound linebackers or
Speaker 1: lineman running at you, it's hard to get him off you.
Speaker 1: It's very very hard to get him off you. And
Speaker 1: at his size, being undersized as a linebacker in there,
Speaker 1: I think he would just get swallowed him hole in there.
Speaker 1: So I got to have a bigger body in there.
Speaker 1: So I'm going with lve and then kJ Right. He
Speaker 1: can do all the things as far as covering is concerned,
Speaker 1: that a Keyan O'Neil can do. So I put kJ
Speaker 1: right out there with him, and I let him handle
Speaker 1: all the coverage responsibilities, dropping back being that low whole
Speaker 1: player whatever you want to be, and I let Lvee
Speaker 1: handle the run responsibilities and getting everybody lined up. So
Speaker 1: I'd have those two out there just for the simple
Speaker 1: fact you've got one big guy for the run, one
Speaker 1: guy who's great at coverage, but he's also a bigger
Speaker 1: body that can help him the run. I just don't
Speaker 1: see Jalen Smith or Keyan O'Neill being able to provide that.
Speaker 1: So for me, I got both of those guys ain't
Speaker 1: going to nickel, and I think that'd be a hell
Speaker 1: of a Nickel combination. I mean, you got kJ right,
Speaker 1: l v E, you got you know, Wilson back there
Speaker 1: at the strong KZ if he's able to come to
Speaker 1: come together at the free safety, and you've got some.
Speaker 1: You've got two corners hopefully Patrick Surtan in there and
Speaker 1: a solid nickel. You know, that's a that's a hell
Speaker 1: of a combodation to throw out there. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: I hope we do get kJ up in here. So, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just pontificating here. If if you sign kJ right,
Speaker 1: So if you have kJ Right, Layton Vanderresh, Jalen Smith,
Speaker 1: Luke Gifford, Kean O'Neill, that's five linebackers and with an
Speaker 1: extra game added to the schedule, and looking at the
Speaker 1: health history in the past of a Layton band Resh,
Speaker 1: this could be something dan Quinn can work with. And
Speaker 1: we keep talking about giving the Carpenter tools. If he
Speaker 1: had these five linebackers here, I believe these could be
Speaker 1: good tools that he could go out on Opening Day
Speaker 1: and feel good about his football team at the linebackers position.
Speaker 1: And this is before you get to the draft, which
Speaker 1: happens later on this month. Oh, without a doubt. And
Speaker 1: then like you said, Luke Gifford, you'd have depth there
Speaker 1: and a Luke kit can also help out on special teams. So,
Speaker 1: like to me, the linebacker position is where you want
Speaker 1: the most depth at outside of the defensive line just
Speaker 1: because they can do so many things. They can you know,
Speaker 1: they got the run, they got the pass, but they
Speaker 1: can also help you out on special teams. You always
Speaker 1: want that big body guy I can run, who's athletic
Speaker 1: on special teams. You've gotta have that in there. And
Speaker 1: I think that's where the linebacker position can help us
Speaker 1: overall with having more depth, helping on special teams, and
Speaker 1: helping with the injury factor. Because we know Lbe he
Speaker 1: hasn't lasted since his rookie year, so we know at
Speaker 1: a certain point in this season he made miss a
Speaker 1: game or two. Wouldn't you love love to have an
Speaker 1: easily replacement in their kJ going near handled business. You
Speaker 1: wouldn't even miss a step right there. I think it
Speaker 1: would be a solid move, But we got to see
Speaker 1: what Will in the front office are going to do.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's dive into this Demante Kazy contract.
Speaker 1: It's one year, one point two seven million dollars and
Speaker 1: the player got one hundred and thirty seven thousand, five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars to sign. When you see that, you basically
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that, all right, the Cowboys five
Speaker 1: million dollar contract a whole lot of it is just
Speaker 1: kind of smoke, which is what I was gonna say
Speaker 1: about the Labonte David contract in Tampa Bay. They're signing
Speaker 1: a bunch of these contracts with avoidable years, so a
Speaker 1: lot of it is smoke. So the whole kazy deal
Speaker 1: of five million dollars really isn't five mill But in
Speaker 1: your opinion, what are they fil I mean that Neil
Speaker 1: got five million, but I mean what what what Neil
Speaker 1: got the five million? But I mean what Casey's got
Speaker 1: with the one year, one point one to seven million dollars.
Speaker 1: What do you think they're saying about the player. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that they're telling him, but you gotta come here,
Speaker 1: you gotta make the team. I mean, it's not if
Speaker 1: you get not not to say that that's such a
Speaker 1: low number. But we're talking about NFL. You're talking about
Speaker 1: contracts in the secondary and starting safeties and what they're
Speaker 1: getting out there. When you get a number that low,
Speaker 1: they're telling that player, Look, you you got to make
Speaker 1: the team. You're not guaranteed to come in here, and look,
Speaker 1: you are solidified as a starter day one. They gave
Speaker 1: you basically money that you know that you gotta go
Speaker 1: out there and earn your job, and you gotta earn
Speaker 1: your reputation out there, and I think Casey will be
Speaker 1: able to do that seeing as though when he is healthy,
Speaker 1: he is a ball hawk out there, and that's what
Speaker 1: we kind of need at that free safety position, especially
Speaker 1: in that hole in dan Quinn's position, because you need
Speaker 1: a guy that has super range. I could go back
Speaker 1: and forth. So if he can come on to the
Speaker 1: field healthy and playing his best ball, and I think
Speaker 1: he'll be able to make the team. But it shows
Speaker 1: me that this team is saying you gotta make it,
Speaker 1: and that also they're gonna look at a safety in
Speaker 1: the draft. They're gonna look at the safety I think
Speaker 1: in the draft that can help can promote some type
Speaker 1: of competition back there, because if they wanted CAZy to
Speaker 1: have the job solely, they able to pay them as such,
Speaker 1: and they would have said, hey, you know here, this
Speaker 1: is your job to have. We want you to be
Speaker 1: the leader back there, but they didn't pay them. They
Speaker 1: gave him that minimum with I think it was one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars sign and voter society.
Speaker 1: He has to he has to make the team, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna bring in competition, whether it be the draft
Speaker 1: or whether they bring in somebody else in free agency.
Speaker 1: They're gonna bring in competition. But the sole job of
Speaker 1: that free safety, I don't think is just simply Cazy's job.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to make the team, get healthy, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to compete in camp, and if he's
Speaker 1: able to do that and come out with the job,
Speaker 1: then they have a good free safety on their hands
Speaker 1: for the load. But overall, he's gonna have to make
Speaker 1: the team, and I think they're gonna bring competition for him.
Speaker 1: I think of this as a positive positive, meaning here's
Speaker 1: somebody that understands the system, so he can help teaching
Speaker 1: to the other people. Other positive is if Kazy is
Speaker 1: not the player that they think he is, they can
Speaker 1: cut him into not losing any money. And the other
Speaker 1: positive to me is you need options. This is a
Speaker 1: team that last year which stuff went bad. The options
Speaker 1: were awful. Okay, the options were awful, So if the
Speaker 1: right right, So if you've got Kaz, and you could
Speaker 1: add some more through the draft, possibly more through free agency,
Speaker 1: once again, give the carpenter more tools to work with.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to be positive in terms of looking
Speaker 1: at what they're doing and how this can work. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: you're going to need options. Dudes aren't always going to
Speaker 1: be healthy under defense or on the offense, and Casey's
Speaker 1: a guy coming off an injury. So I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have really protected themselves in a lot of ways here.
Speaker 1: If Kaz ends up playing well, then great. I go
Speaker 1: back and look at a kid from TCU, Jason Brett,
Speaker 1: who ended up signing a one year deal last year
Speaker 1: with San Francisco at quarterback, played really well as a
Speaker 1: four first round pick of the just couldn't stay healthy
Speaker 1: last year, one year deal, played well, and end up
Speaker 1: signing another deal with them. So I kind of look
Speaker 1: at CAZy this situation here. It's a deal that goes
Speaker 1: heavily towards the team and gives the player something to
Speaker 1: really strive for and the players at least in a
Speaker 1: system that the player understands. And I just I just
Speaker 1: see a lot of positive check Martine for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: from a financial standpoint and the potential of what the
Speaker 1: player could do if help it. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question, why do you think this organization just it
Speaker 1: puts such a low just such a low bar on
Speaker 1: a safety position, like what you don't think they would
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they go out there and solidify that safety position.
Speaker 1: They could have gotten you know, Anthony Harris for five million,
Speaker 1: They could have got a Ricardo Allen for nothing. Crazy.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't up broke the bank, but they would have
Speaker 1: solidified it, like, look, this is our guy going forward
Speaker 1: at free safety. This is it instead of running all
Speaker 1: these you know, all these not examples but experiments, like
Speaker 1: you know, they all these experiments they got going on,
Speaker 1: instead of just solidifying that free safety or why do
Speaker 1: you think that is? This is the frustration for me
Speaker 1: as a media member not having an opportunity to talk
Speaker 1: to Dan Quinn. I would love to ask him the question,
Speaker 1: what are you looking for back here? Tell me what
Speaker 1: the blueprint is for this defense here in Dallas that
Speaker 1: you're going to run because we don't know. And the
Speaker 1: other portion is they keep telling us, hey, we got
Speaker 1: some money, but we know they don't really have some money.
Speaker 1: So that's you know, these are great, great, great questions,
Speaker 1: and maybe they're thinking that they'll get somebody post June first,
Speaker 1: or they'll thinking, hey, look we'll try to address this
Speaker 1: as much as we can in the draft. I don't know, Barry.
Speaker 1: I mean really, I don't know, because I'm not really
Speaker 1: one sure of what the blueprint is, not just for
Speaker 1: the defense, but overall for the organization right now where
Speaker 1: you're trying to go, where you're trying to get to
Speaker 1: go back to Zekiel because that A guy stop me
Speaker 1: yesterday when I was taping my type of sports cast outside.
Speaker 1: He says, man, how many more years of Zeke? And
Speaker 1: I said, if I were you, I wouldn't be frustrated
Speaker 1: with them. I said, I wouldn't be frustrated with the
Speaker 1: as much as I would be frustrated with the process.
Speaker 1: That the organization paid Ezekiel Eli ninety million dollars at
Speaker 1: the time, the richest contract for a running back, and
Speaker 1: they go hire a coach who doesn't believe in the
Speaker 1: run game. That's not what he does. He's a passing
Speaker 1: game guy. So you can look at the player, but really,
Speaker 1: at some point in time, when do you look at
Speaker 1: the organization and say, well, what are you? You know,
Speaker 1: what are you trying to do? Because we had a
Speaker 1: better clue of what they were trying to do under
Speaker 1: Jason Garret, we knew they wanted to run the football,
Speaker 1: have a big, old offensive line. But if you're trying
Speaker 1: to be a passing team, do you need a big
Speaker 1: offensive line? And do you need to have spent this
Speaker 1: much money on the running back. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: you're still going to be dealing with his contract for
Speaker 1: a couple of more years. We just saw the signing
Speaker 1: bonus money get kicked in here, so it's not like
Speaker 1: you just cut, just move on your way. So these
Speaker 1: are the things I said, go back overall, Perry, I'm
Speaker 1: frustrated by because I don't know, you know, who are you?
Speaker 1: That's really a question. And I got it from Buck
Speaker 1: show Walter when he once managed the Texas Rangers and
Speaker 1: he's gone on manage in the major leagues a long
Speaker 1: time with different clubs, and he always would say, knew
Speaker 1: it thing. I always ask management, who are we and
Speaker 1: what are we trying to be? And I think that's
Speaker 1: a legitimate question. You can ask the Dallas Cowboys who
Speaker 1: are you? Because before they signed Ezekiel Elliot what everybody said,
Speaker 1: this is a running football team. You don't want Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott out there by himself. Dak Prescott's not good without
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliot look at his record and then they turned
Speaker 1: the football team really over to Dak Prescott. So that's
Speaker 1: that's a big question I have, and I'd love to
Speaker 1: talk to dan Quinn to get some more about, you know,
Speaker 1: some more thoughts on what he wants this defense to
Speaker 1: be and the whole safety position. It's like, dude, you're
Speaker 1: a Seattle you had Erald Thomas, you know, this is
Speaker 1: how you know you ran your defense. You had you
Speaker 1: had Neil and Casey when you were in Atlantic, and
Speaker 1: these guys helped you end up going, you know, going
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl. So what is it you want here?
Speaker 1: And is it here or do you need to go
Speaker 1: acquire it and get more of it? Obviously they'll tell you, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, Casey knows what we want to do, so
Speaker 1: they'll they'll pump that up. But you've already talked about
Speaker 1: how coming off an injury, you don't know exactly know
Speaker 1: what you have and the fact that they put so
Speaker 1: little money in Casey tells you what their faith level is.
Speaker 1: So I'd love to understand from dan Quinn what is
Speaker 1: it you need on the back end to complete and
Speaker 1: compete with this defense? Yeah, Like, like you said, what's
Speaker 1: the identity of the back end. I mean, are we
Speaker 1: going to be more of a Seattle back end where
Speaker 1: they played if they played man, but it really wasn't
Speaker 1: a match man like Sherman, didn't travel with the number
Speaker 1: one receiver, they didn't do any of that stuff. And
Speaker 1: they were they were a high zone team like they
Speaker 1: played man, but they were a high zone team. A
Speaker 1: lot of cover three, a lot of just roaming by
Speaker 1: the safeties and roaming by the corners. Is that what
Speaker 1: we're gonna be because I mean, as we've seen Digs
Speaker 1: is I think Digs in my opinion right now, I
Speaker 1: think he's more of a man corner. He locks down
Speaker 1: certain On the other hand, he can go out there
Speaker 1: and he can do both. He has a pedigree of
Speaker 1: doing both. So what type of type of system are
Speaker 1: we gonna run? We have a whole safety and CAZy,
Speaker 1: granted if he comes back healthy from injury, who's able
Speaker 1: to be that red line to red line or rangey safety.
Speaker 1: We got that in the box kind of camp Chancellor
Speaker 1: kind of knock your head off keyan O'Neil in the
Speaker 1: box right there as well. So are we trying to
Speaker 1: model that legion of boom or are we going into
Speaker 1: a different direction. These are the questions that I wish,
Speaker 1: you know, Dan Quinn would give us a solid answer
Speaker 1: on Richie. Gonna have to wait untill the season begins,
Speaker 1: but I definitely see them addressing this secondary in the draft,
Speaker 1: whether it be certain at the corner or getting a
Speaker 1: Richie Grant or somebody at that as safety to compete
Speaker 1: with Kaz and to compete with Wilson. I don't think
Speaker 1: we're done in the secondary, but I was just like
Speaker 1: some answers as to what the identity of this defense
Speaker 1: is going to be. All Right, we'll get into some
Speaker 1: of these players later on. Here, let me write down
Speaker 1: Richie Grant. Richie Grant is a guy that forty four
Speaker 1: I'm not big on, as so many other people here
Speaker 1: are Dallas Cowboys on the Gallas Cowboys podcast network. But hey,
Speaker 1: you know, we all have our things. Let's take a
Speaker 1: break here. We got to get into the fact that
Speaker 1: the NFL and now has a seventeen game regular season
Speaker 1: coming up in twenty twenty one, means you can have
Speaker 1: no mores. Jeff Fisher with say that's seventy nine boom,
Speaker 1: you can't. Hey, you know, eight you go eight eight one.
Speaker 1: But you know so, and we'll dive into Kyle Pitt's
Speaker 1: Patrick's certain fields, Richie Grant, we'll dive into that as
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Speaker 1: other running buddy, Danny McCray, has the day off. All right.
Speaker 1: Next week we're back to Friday, but we're doing this
Speaker 1: on Thursday, Good Fridays tomorrow and all the podcasts will
Speaker 1: take the day off. Here. Let's dive into something that
Speaker 1: I think is big that people aren't talking enough about
Speaker 1: on social media concerning all players, especially at Cowboys Nation
Speaker 1: Berry Church, and that is that the NFL owners approved
Speaker 1: a seventeenth game. That seventeenth game is going to be
Speaker 1: the Cowboys at New England to take other Patriots. They
Speaker 1: don't they do not play well at New England. They've
Speaker 1: never beaten Bill Belichick at New England. So Milke McCarthy
Speaker 1: versus Bill Belichick is the added game that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are going to get as a football player, barring having
Speaker 1: played this game and gone through sixteen, what does a
Speaker 1: seventeenth game mean for the body? And how do the
Speaker 1: Cowboys as an organization need to start thinking about having
Speaker 1: seventeen games? Seventeen games? So the positives about that as
Speaker 1: for a player is, look, you get more money. That's
Speaker 1: seventeen again, You're gonna get another check. You have more
Speaker 1: revenue coming in, a bigger piece of the pie with
Speaker 1: the owners, so you got more money coming in. And
Speaker 1: this is something that the players. I don't think they
Speaker 1: agreed upon this already, so it's not like they can
Speaker 1: really pretty much complain about it. I know I've seen
Speaker 1: a lot of the social media the players like, oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, a seventeenth game. How's my body can barely
Speaker 1: stand up for sixteen? And now you want me to
Speaker 1: do a seventeen. But this is something that you'll agree upon.
Speaker 1: This is something that the CB, the news, CBA when
Speaker 1: it came out, the owners proposed this and you guys
Speaker 1: agreed upon it as a player. So there's not really
Speaker 1: much complaining that the players can do because they already
Speaker 1: agreed upon this. Now when we're talking about seventeenth game
Speaker 1: for the season in the body, I don't think one
Speaker 1: more game will be that taxing on the body. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: they took out one preseason game and a little preseason
Speaker 1: for if you're if you're a bona fie starter, you're
Speaker 1: you're rarely playing anyway, as you might get in for
Speaker 1: you know, a quarter maybe at two quarters on that
Speaker 1: third preseason game. It's kind of a warm up for
Speaker 1: the season. So the preseason you're not really doing that
Speaker 1: if you're a starter. And then the seventeen games during
Speaker 1: the regular season or sixteen games or the regular season, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a task. It'll beat your body down and you'll
Speaker 1: by the time sixteen weeks come around, you're like, oh man,
Speaker 1: this has been a rough one. But that one more game,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be that much of
Speaker 1: a difference from the sixteenth game. I could see if
Speaker 1: it was going up to eighteen or one up to
Speaker 1: nineteen games, but one more game. I think these players
Speaker 1: should be able to handle that. So to me, they
Speaker 1: don't have the right to really complain when you signed
Speaker 1: off on that you're getting extra money. I don't see
Speaker 1: it as a as a as that big of a
Speaker 1: deal to add one more game to these players. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've seen some complaining about it, but overall, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's that big of a deal. Every plus you're
Speaker 1: getting more money. I say, you make it happen. But
Speaker 1: when we come to this New England matchup, man, I'm
Speaker 1: one in three against New England one in three. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is about what they do up there,
Speaker 1: but it is hard. It is extremely hard to win
Speaker 1: up there. Whether it's the weather conditions, whether they just
Speaker 1: got your number, whether they just you know, whether they
Speaker 1: scouted you today, I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 1: running up in New England is hard. In that seventeenth game,
Speaker 1: I hope, and I hope it's not to get to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. We got to win this game in order
Speaker 1: to get to the playoffs. I hope that's not the case,
Speaker 1: because it's extremely hard to win in New England against
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and Cam Newton. He got some weapons. They
Speaker 1: went in free agency and got some weapons there, so
Speaker 1: I think it might be a nice little battle up there.
Speaker 1: But hopefully it ain't for nothing to get to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: or we already got that sealed up. The schedule has
Speaker 1: yet to come out. If I'm the Cowboys, I'm hoping
Speaker 1: to get to New England in September. That to me
Speaker 1: is the yes, you want to play this game. It's
Speaker 1: as possible is. They're trying to add the new weapons
Speaker 1: and integrate them into their offense and defense. But I
Speaker 1: just sit here and think out, you don't want to
Speaker 1: be there in December. You don't want to be there November.
Speaker 1: I was there for that last Cowboys game up in Foxborough.
Speaker 1: It was a cold, wet, rainy day. Neither offense could
Speaker 1: get going. The Patriots were down wide receivers, and the
Speaker 1: game was won on special teams. It was one on
Speaker 1: a block, it was one on a block, a block punt,
Speaker 1: Patriots recover, score a touchdown and that was kind of
Speaker 1: the end. And I remember talking with Jerry Jones afterwards.
Speaker 1: I'm standing there next to Edward and Jerry was hot,
Speaker 1: and you could tell at that point in time he
Speaker 1: was done with Keith o quinn as a special teams coach,
Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett was going to find his way out
Speaker 1: of the door that was where he was because it
Speaker 1: was a winnable football game. You lost the game because
Speaker 1: you got out coached. You lost the game because you
Speaker 1: couldn't execute on special teams at faith in the game
Speaker 1: where you know, okay, you know, Matthew Slater, it's coming.
Speaker 1: You know. Bill Belichick put the emphasis there and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys lost right there. So they've had a tough time
Speaker 1: up there in New England. Man, So I'm telling you
Speaker 1: you want to get there as early as possible. It's
Speaker 1: like a Packers game. Did you get see the Packers
Speaker 1: on the schedule? Hope you can get the Packers sober
Speaker 1: late in the year because the odds against you are tough.
Speaker 1: It's tough, and I've been in there. I've been in
Speaker 1: both situations. I've played the Packers in the Divisional round
Speaker 1: of playoffs when it was bitter cold and lambeau Field
Speaker 1: we all remember it the catch that should have been
Speaker 1: a catch, but the refs that they were smoking wacky
Speaker 1: tobaccy or whatever they were smoking out there because it
Speaker 1: should have been a cash But anyways, the conditions are
Speaker 1: terrible at lambeau Field. That's what the other place you
Speaker 1: don't want to go and in Foxbor. I was there
Speaker 1: for the AFC Championship in twenty seventeen. It wasn't the
Speaker 1: it was just the bitter wind. Like it felt like
Speaker 1: the wind was just cutting through your pads because it
Speaker 1: wasn't raining, and it wasn't like it when the wind stopped,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like it was, you know, the unbelievably freezing
Speaker 1: cold like the frozen tundra. But the wind, man, the
Speaker 1: wind cuts through your pads, It cuts through your jerseys,
Speaker 1: whatever under armor, Nike stuff you got on, it cuts
Speaker 1: through that stuff a little. If we can get them
Speaker 1: on the schedule early, I think we got a better
Speaker 1: chance of being late in the season going against Belichick
Speaker 1: and going against all those opt ins and free agents
Speaker 1: once they jailed. I hope we get them knocked out
Speaker 1: earlier in the season because, like you said, it's hell
Speaker 1: going up to New England in late in the year
Speaker 1: like that. When I look at a seventeen game schedule
Speaker 1: and I think about some of the players that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had who dealt with health issues the past few seasons,
Speaker 1: I think of tackles Tyrant Smith and lell College. You
Speaker 1: think about linebacker Layton Vanderesh and then here they are
Speaker 1: bringing in Kean O'Neill and Demante Kazy, guys who battled
Speaker 1: in this seventeenth game. To me, speaks to the fact
Speaker 1: that you really have to understand and get depth. You
Speaker 1: need depth because it's already showing. We saw last year
Speaker 1: how tough it was to get through sixteen games for
Speaker 1: this football team. Now you're adding one more. Depth becomes
Speaker 1: very important. And I also come into this one. I
Speaker 1: think about death the church. You understand this because you
Speaker 1: cut your teeth here. Special teams, man. You know, when
Speaker 1: you start losing guys, Special teams is where a lot
Speaker 1: of these backups are going to be coming from. And
Speaker 1: then if they're playing specials, if you take them off,
Speaker 1: who takes their place? This is this is an important
Speaker 1: phase of the football game that the Cowboys, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: have got to figure out how to win it. If
Speaker 1: they can figure out how if they can win the
Speaker 1: offensive and special teams phase of football game, they're gonna
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to win this division. That's how I feel.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can, but that's just my feeling.
Speaker 1: How can you improve those football team in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one but adding that seventeenth game, it's going to tax
Speaker 1: you and Samarius here, it's gonna be taxing. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be taxing. And like you said, we have a team
Speaker 1: that's fielded with guys I hate to say it, but
Speaker 1: guys that are injury prone. I mean, looking back n
Speaker 1: Smith Lie College just came off hit Zach Martin. Our
Speaker 1: whole linebacking crew, I mean, our whole safety crew. If
Speaker 1: you think about Kean Kneel with the Achilles, Kazy with Achilles.
Speaker 1: So we're fielding a team with injury prone players. So
Speaker 1: that's seventeenth game. It could be extremely taxing for this team.
Speaker 1: But that's why I love the signings of a guy
Speaker 1: like c. J. Good, one who can come in here
Speaker 1: help the special teams out. You don't really have to
Speaker 1: take him from the defense to be it be a
Speaker 1: part of the special teams. He's already entrenched in a
Speaker 1: special team so he can be there for you. And
Speaker 1: also I hope they get this done. But with that
Speaker 1: seventeen game, we need a guy like Joe Looney. We
Speaker 1: need a guy that can go out there and he
Speaker 1: can be that interior swing offensive lineman. He could be,
Speaker 1: he could play guard center or the opposite guard. We
Speaker 1: need somebody like that who can fill in, especially with
Speaker 1: adding another game. I don't think it'll be that taxing,
Speaker 1: but as injury prone as this whole team has been,
Speaker 1: I think we need to get depth pieces, and Joe
Speaker 1: Looney would be an excellent death piece as we've seen
Speaker 1: him come in and play well for injured Zach Travis
Speaker 1: Frederick when he was here and then he had to
Speaker 1: move over to guard last year a couple of times.
Speaker 1: So for me, I feel as that we need to
Speaker 1: make those signings. But like you said, man, this injury
Speaker 1: prone team heading into a seventeen games regular ski regular
Speaker 1: season that could be pretty taxing. This is where your
Speaker 1: pro personnel department's gotta be on its game here because
Speaker 1: we know come training camp, if the Cowboys are allowed
Speaker 1: to have training camp, and by all account, just hearing
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell and what people are saying that this should happen,
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose guys and you're constantly having a list
Speaker 1: of you who do we bring in here for the
Speaker 1: seventeen game schedule? Here I am, I'm worried about, Okay,
Speaker 1: where do you go? Also, we hadn't talked about it
Speaker 1: very much. But the backup quarterback position here? Where did
Speaker 1: the Cowboys go? You weren't thinking that you needed a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback last year, but you did, and Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: was the guy that they were able to rely on.
Speaker 1: So where do you good? Yet? Do it? You know
Speaker 1: were good? Then? Baby? You know you know where I'm
Speaker 1: going with this. You know I'm gold. We are good
Speaker 1: at back. I'm telling you you gotta trust in double
Speaker 1: G Man. You gotta trust in Gilbert. He showed they
Speaker 1: could company, he could play man. He saw against the
Speaker 1: Steelers when they at the time they were undefeated, defense
Speaker 1: was rolling. He can't even play it well. I think
Speaker 1: you gotta give him a shot to at least be
Speaker 1: the backup here. I think I think he can help
Speaker 1: you out, especially if something were to happen let's knock
Speaker 1: on wood, but especially if something would have happened to
Speaker 1: that pressed out, I think he could come in and
Speaker 1: do some damage. Man. So I think we're personally good.
Speaker 1: I'm probably the only one out here in the Cowboys
Speaker 1: fan and the fandom or whatever that believes in Gilbert.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, I think we're good at that
Speaker 1: backup spot. I would I would venture to say this
Speaker 1: that Will McClay and Mike McCarthy would have their eyes
Speaker 1: open to see is there a potential backup player that
Speaker 1: they could improve upon from Gilbert with ten draft picks.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to upgrade from
Speaker 1: Ben da Nucci. To me, you gotta be out of here.
Speaker 1: I go back to what Bill Parcels used to say.
Speaker 1: You're always trying to churn the bottom of your roster. Okay,
Speaker 1: that bottom of the roster. You know, You're trying to
Speaker 1: look at these How can we get better here? How
Speaker 1: can we find another person? The Cowboys did it last
Speaker 1: year and getting Andy Dalton that was a circumstance has
Speaker 1: just worked out well for them. So to me, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm looking to do. And Bend Nucci, I don't look.
Speaker 1: Let's be fair to de Nucci from this standpoint. He
Speaker 1: didn't have a full training kid, he didn't have an offseason,
Speaker 1: and when he got when he got thrown in there,
Speaker 1: you got thrown into the toughest level of competition out there,
Speaker 1: and you're going from playing at James Madison University to
Speaker 1: going on the road on Sunday night football to play
Speaker 1: against the Philadelphia Eagles. That's tough. That's tough. I don't
Speaker 1: think we should judge him and several other draft picks
Speaker 1: based on last year alone, to say, man, this guy's
Speaker 1: no good, let's give him a shot. But if you
Speaker 1: have ten draft picks and you're getting towards and you're
Speaker 1: looking towards the sixth, sixth round or so, and you
Speaker 1: see a guy that you say, oh, look, we think
Speaker 1: we could get something with this player, and Mike mccarthur
Speaker 1: thinks that they can develop them, something to think about that.
Speaker 1: That's that's what I see. And so you could have
Speaker 1: somebody that's pushing Ben de Nucci that Denucci at least
Speaker 1: has the ability he's been in the offense four years ago,
Speaker 1: have a little bit better understanding. But I am of
Speaker 1: the belief that you should always take a quarterback. I
Speaker 1: do think that ron Wolf did very well with that,
Speaker 1: that philosophy of let's always look for a guy in
Speaker 1: Through the years, you saw the move on from an
Speaker 1: Aaron Brooks, a mad hasseleback, a Kurt Water. They went
Speaker 1: through dudes, they went through some Mark Bark Bronelle was
Speaker 1: up there at Green Bay for a while. So they
Speaker 1: went through a lot of quarterbacks and through the years. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they were on point about what they were doing.
Speaker 1: So I'll be interested to see if the Cowboys continue
Speaker 1: this with the draft. I hope they do, especially Arned
Speaker 1: with ten picks um and I I you don't know
Speaker 1: how many guys. I don't see ten players making this,
Speaker 1: ten picks making the football team. But stranger things. Stranger
Speaker 1: things have happened, But I don't think so this is true.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm also surprised that the Cowboys didn't
Speaker 1: at least kick may Maybe they did. Maybe they did,
Speaker 1: but they didn't kick the tires on a Colt McCoy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's over in Uh. I think
Speaker 1: maybe Arizona signed him or something Arizon. You know, he's
Speaker 1: been the league, he's proven as a backup, and he
Speaker 1: came in and he he was a part of that
Speaker 1: win over Seattle, if I'm not mistaken. When he was
Speaker 1: with New York last was that natal Yeah, I believe
Speaker 1: he was with them the win over Seattle. He's a
Speaker 1: guy that he beat us before. He came in as
Speaker 1: a back up in Washington and beat the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: To me, I'm surprised they didn't kick the can on
Speaker 1: a guy like that. I'm all right, I'm all right,
Speaker 1: you're all right on that. You don't want you one
Speaker 1: of that Colt McCoy. Uh, you know what, I believe
Speaker 1: that there'll be another cult McCoy that can can get free,
Speaker 1: especially once you This is the beauty of the draft.
Speaker 1: Once the draft gets done and once guys, once teams
Speaker 1: have to start signing these guys too. I do believe
Speaker 1: we're going to see some post June cuts. We're gonna
Speaker 1: see some guys be available with that. That will happen.
Speaker 1: So so I'm not, oh my gosh, let's go get
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy. I'm good. I'm good. God, Yeah, I'm look
Speaker 1: at a Trubisky, looks wasn't two point five to go
Speaker 1: to Buffalo? That like we could have made a move
Speaker 1: on that. I mean, I know he's not dude, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't want him to be your starter or nothing
Speaker 1: like that. But he comes in for for for a game,
Speaker 1: for a game. Maybe you know. I'm good. I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm good. Look, I watched I watched a lot of
Speaker 1: Carolina football man and the thing about Mitchell Trubisky coming
Speaker 1: out of school that I never understood he couldn't beat
Speaker 1: at Marquis Williams, and the coaching staff was trying to
Speaker 1: be that try like, dude, you can beat this guy.
Speaker 1: He could never beat Marquise Williams, who's nothing more than
Speaker 1: a practice player on an NFL squad for a couple
Speaker 1: of years. So that had I had questions there. Then
Speaker 1: he had only thirteen starts and so he ends up
Speaker 1: being thirteam All acc behind Lamar Jackson, who won the
Speaker 1: highs for that year at Louisville and Deshaun Watson, who
Speaker 1: went on to win a national championship. So I just
Speaker 1: never got the whole Trubisky deal. And I shake my
Speaker 1: head at the process of how this guy got pushed
Speaker 1: up in the draft process and people thought he was
Speaker 1: going to do all these things that I just like,
Speaker 1: huh wait. And so when you talk about bringing Mentell
Speaker 1: Trubisky and now you know what you are. Now you're
Speaker 1: adopting that dog from the shelter. This this headed issues
Speaker 1: issues of polem. Might mean bite, you don't know what
Speaker 1: you're getting out. You know what kind of dog you get.
Speaker 1: You know you got it from the pound. We don't know.
Speaker 1: But because the take off would be so much lower.
Speaker 1: I don't want that, dude, Okay, I don't want that dog. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to fight a better dog, all right, No, No,
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want that. Man. I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm good. Man. He's like, he's like that. Uh you
Speaker 1: when you go to the pound, you see when they
Speaker 1: say mix terrier mix, you know, uh um, you're like that,
Speaker 1: you know what the mix is because they told me
Speaker 1: because our dog, our dog looks like a boxer, like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a boxing And then when you looked at the
Speaker 1: little the little car, he said boxer mix, Like, well,
Speaker 1: what's the mix? Mix? Was pitbull? They don't They don't
Speaker 1: say boxer pitbull because you probably I don't want a
Speaker 1: part of pitbull. So you don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I get mental to risk. So I don't want
Speaker 1: let Buffalo deal with that. If you're the cowboy, we
Speaker 1: don't need to deal with Where the dude who's been
Speaker 1: all scattershot out, I don't know what I'm getting there, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know because this dude has
Speaker 1: been put through the ringer. I remember the story, worry
Speaker 1: where and that came out that he was mad that
Speaker 1: they had NFL network on at the facility because they
Speaker 1: were trashing in Oh yeah, man, yeah, that was so
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe he said something like that, man, like
Speaker 1: a couple on. Man, you even quarterback in the National
Speaker 1: Football And he said, turned it off because I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear the negative talk about me. I mean,
Speaker 1: the couple got you gotta be you got you gotta
Speaker 1: be a little bit stronger than that. Yeah. See, I
Speaker 1: just and I just look at him overall. This was
Speaker 1: a this was a player who was overdrafted Day one.
Speaker 1: I was just I was just never a Trabisky fan
Speaker 1: because I go back to what Bill parcels. You're talking
Speaker 1: about how many starts he wanted to see out of
Speaker 1: a quarterback and what do you want? He didn't fit
Speaker 1: any of that. He just didn't not fit any of that.
Speaker 1: And the player they were talking about, I'm like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, this guy's not better than Deshaun Watson. Fact
Speaker 1: had happened Deshaun Watson, you know, wasn't even a game. Um.
Speaker 1: I just when I looked at the resume of what
Speaker 1: Watson had coming out of Clempson, I look at what
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky. I'm like, how was this a conversation? But
Speaker 1: it was. And you think about how much Chicago look
Speaker 1: not just Chicago, look at everybody who passed on Mittell
Speaker 1: true who I mean, who passed on the Shaun Watson
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes and the quarterback situations they find themselves in. Today.
Speaker 1: You got Chicago, all right, Chicago passed. They were trying
Speaker 1: to trade three first round picks, try to get Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: They don't have a franchise quarterback. So then you have
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Forty nineers decided they didn't want
Speaker 1: either one. Okay, then now here would start with Jimmy
Speaker 1: g just trading a boatload to get the third pick
Speaker 1: in the draft. Love the jacket they got the Jaguars. Jaguars,
Speaker 1: we want to take Leonard Fournette. I think Fournette was four,
Speaker 1: but they took Leonard Furnette. He's no longer on the
Speaker 1: football team. Now they've got the number one pick, they're
Speaker 1: taking Trevor Lords the Jets. Jets decide we're going to
Speaker 1: take safety Jamal Adams instead of taking the Shawn Watson
Speaker 1: to Patrick Mahomes. Here the Jets with the second overall pick,
Speaker 1: talking about dumping Sam Donald, who they took number three
Speaker 1: pick a couple of years ago, you know, back in
Speaker 1: the back in the you know, the quarterback business, because
Speaker 1: they haven't gotten a guy. So all these teams who
Speaker 1: passed on a dude, and I always go back to
Speaker 1: Watson because he had to proven resume, Harry, that was it.
Speaker 1: Patrick a winner, you know, Mahomes was a guy in Alabama.
Speaker 1: He's a winner. I'm surprised, man, just like you. I'm surprised, right.
Speaker 1: You know, Cleveland, Cleveland had two shots at it. Cleveland
Speaker 1: the number one pick. They took Miles Garrett of Arlington
Speaker 1: turned out to be the right pick. But then they
Speaker 1: had the twelfth pick in the first round and they
Speaker 1: traded it away and Houston came up and got it
Speaker 1: from Cleveland and they took Watson. So I'm just shaking
Speaker 1: my head at these teams and made these mistakes here
Speaker 1: and after you after these guys, we think about this now,
Speaker 1: after these guys have failed, okay, because Mitchell Trubisky's a
Speaker 1: failure for them, you don't what are you going to
Speaker 1: get and how much work do you have to do
Speaker 1: to rebuild this guy. You know, you're that's a lot.
Speaker 1: So you're saying the cowboy right now, Dak Prescott gets
Speaker 1: hurt again, you want to throw Mischell Trubisky out there.
Speaker 1: You'll be comfortable with that, you okay, That's why I
Speaker 1: am comfortable, though. I say, I'll tell you what we
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta be in the greet. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: can we agree on this one? Double g Gilbert. I
Speaker 1: think it's a better backup solution than what we got
Speaker 1: in the league right now, like like because you don't
Speaker 1: you're not a fan of coulpe McCoy. You ain't liking
Speaker 1: at your bisky Chase Daniel. I just think he's there.
Speaker 1: So I think I think we got a solid backup.
Speaker 1: I mean, unless I were saying there's something in the
Speaker 1: fifth or sixth round, I think that's solid. I think
Speaker 1: that's solid option. I would I'm right here, take colpe
Speaker 1: McCoy to camp and go figure it out. I'm at
Speaker 1: col mcoy. I mean, Garrett Gilbert, take Gilbert the camp
Speaker 1: and figure it out. You're the Cowboys. I mean I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't have I'm not sitting here saying no, no, no,
Speaker 1: let me see more. You know, let's once again on
Speaker 1: ota a training camp, some preseason contests. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy spoke about wanting more competition at his press
Speaker 1: conference two weeks ago when I was at there, So
Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to Gary Gilbert, but I'm also not
Speaker 1: opposed to saying, hey, what else could happen? What else
Speaker 1: could follow your way? Because you can get lucky that way.
Speaker 1: And maybe you have another case where like Andy Dalton says, hey, look,
Speaker 1: you know what I just want to beat right here
Speaker 1: in Texas and this makes sense for me. Who knows
Speaker 1: how the Cowboys can get lucky. Got lucky with Everson Griffin,
Speaker 1: they got lucky with Robert Quinn, and in each situation
Speaker 1: was a little bit different. But you saw yourself getting
Speaker 1: a player that you didn't expect to get at a
Speaker 1: price that was comfortable for you. So let's see if
Speaker 1: that ends up turning that way for the quarterback market.
Speaker 1: All right, Look, there's guys I want to get to here,
Speaker 1: but let's touch on the draft. Kyle Pitzpatrick Stain justin
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Speaker 1: Cowboys reported joined by former Dallas Cowboys safety Barry Church
Speaker 1: are other runner buddy Danny McCray has the day off,
Speaker 1: so let's get into the draft. The Cowboys currently have
Speaker 1: the tenth overall pick in this year's draft, which is
Speaker 1: this month because now it's April first. Kyle Pitts is
Speaker 1: a guy that Cowboy fans keeps salivating over. The tight
Speaker 1: end from Florida who in eight games, Church had seven
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy yards and twelve touchdowns. He had his
Speaker 1: Pro day this week. The clocked in at four point
Speaker 1: four four in his forty times each two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty six pounds merely six six and has the largest
Speaker 1: wingspan for a wide receiver or tight end in the
Speaker 1: last twenty years. So you look at Kyle Pitts and
Speaker 1: he checks off a lot of box And here's what
Speaker 1: I'll say to the Cowboy fans who want them stop.
Speaker 1: The guy's not going to be there at ten. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not. When you look at everything, people say, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be there. So the retort I keep getting back, Well,
Speaker 1: they say about CD Lamb last year. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: about wide receivers in Church. You understand it's very well
Speaker 1: having been a defensive bat. Different teams have different schemes
Speaker 1: and different visions for players. The Raiders wanted Henry Ruggs.
Speaker 1: Their idea was looking at Henry Ruggs basically like a
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill two point uh. Hey man, we want a
Speaker 1: speedy guy, Bam, let him get out here. Ruggs isn't tall,
Speaker 1: but he's super super fast. So Jerry Judy ended up
Speaker 1: fitting exactly what the Denver Broncos wanted in a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: And these are the things that happen. And so wide
Speaker 1: receivers it's a different there's a kind of a different
Speaker 1: play you want to got to be an ex me,
Speaker 1: so there's different things you want from a receiver in
Speaker 1: terms of your scheme. Kyle Pittsson Titan is pretty pretty
Speaker 1: pretty simple of what it is you're gonna want from
Speaker 1: the player. So I don't think it's gonna be like
Speaker 1: a CD Lamb where you have Hey, there's different types
Speaker 1: of receivers and fit us versus. Hey, here's Kyle pitch.
Speaker 1: You kind of know what he's gonna do. Do you
Speaker 1: want yourself a George Kittle, Travis Cass, Travis Helfy. Right,
Speaker 1: That's that's what you're kind of looking at right there.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a lot different than looking at
Speaker 1: wide receiver. And based on that, I don't see him
Speaker 1: fall in the tent. If he's the generational talent, and
Speaker 1: if he's cooking the way our guy, Dave Hellman says
Speaker 1: here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, and he's cooking up quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: then there's no way he falls to ten. That's my tent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no way. You're completely right, man. Look this guy,
Speaker 1: as everybody says and all the reports out there, is
Speaker 1: supposedly this generational talent, and he's a mismatched nightmare, especially
Speaker 1: when you line him up at a tight end position.
Speaker 1: And I don't doubt that the guy ran a four
Speaker 1: point four or five out there at his protay at
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty five pounds. I mean, that's extremely
Speaker 1: hard to do. That's extremely hard to run with if
Speaker 1: you're a linebacker of safe or anything like that. That
Speaker 1: is pure speed. He has the height, like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: he has the are the longest arms in the past
Speaker 1: twenty years, so you know, his catch radius is extremely ridiculous.
Speaker 1: So this guy will not fall all the way to ten.
Speaker 1: But even if for some miraculous, crazy reason he ended
Speaker 1: up falling to ten, I still wouldn't personally. Personally, this
Speaker 1: is my personal opinion. I would not go and get him. Yes,
Speaker 1: he can be a mismatched nightmare and all that other stuff,
Speaker 1: but we already have mismatched nightmares on our offense. Our
Speaker 1: offense is already loaded. And this is a team sport.
Speaker 1: It ain't like basketball where you're like, oh, let me
Speaker 1: just add another superstar and we'll take off. No, this
Speaker 1: is a team sport. And if you have such a
Speaker 1: heavy loaded offensive side and your defense is struggling mightily
Speaker 1: like we did last year, I don't care who you
Speaker 1: got out there, you're not gonna do anything. You're gonna
Speaker 1: end up being we will now end up being seven
Speaker 1: and seven and ten or something like that. You won't
Speaker 1: be able to go out there and compete on every
Speaker 1: game basis because some teams out there, to build Belichi
Speaker 1: teams of the world out there, they're gonna find a
Speaker 1: way to take away cowfense. They're gonna find a way
Speaker 1: to take your offense and knock it down a little bit,
Speaker 1: and you's when you're gonna need your defense to step up.
Speaker 1: And if we don't have anybody, we don't have talent
Speaker 1: or anybody on the defensive side of the ball to
Speaker 1: go ahead and match up, we're gonna be struggling. We're
Speaker 1: gonna struggle as a team, and we're gonna be writing
Speaker 1: the same boat we were last year saying what's going on?
Speaker 1: Why aren't we winning these games? We're giving up too
Speaker 1: many points? Well, we kick the can too far down
Speaker 1: the road on the defensive side of the ball. We
Speaker 1: need to subject. We need to go ahead, and we
Speaker 1: need to pick defense. I'm gonna be a complete one.
Speaker 1: We need to pick defense. Church. Look, I've been singing
Speaker 1: that same song with you for a while, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask you this question because I consistently hear this
Speaker 1: when people hit me on Twitter at NEWI scrugs. It's
Speaker 1: any Wy scruggs on Twitter. Take the best player available
Speaker 1: and you figure it out to figure out the rest later.
Speaker 1: Just take the best player available. So, if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: big Board has Kyle Pitts rated as one of the
Speaker 1: top four players in the draft, any team miraculously, which
Speaker 1: I don't believe, but miraculously sits there at ten. Do
Speaker 1: you follow your board or do you go with the defensive?
Speaker 1: Need you tell me what you do? No? No, because
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a luxury for teams that have
Speaker 1: already had an established team. They already have an established
Speaker 1: identity on both sides of the ball. They got what
Speaker 1: they want, and now they're just like, all right, well
Speaker 1: let's pick you know, this is the best guy available.
Speaker 1: Let's let's just add them. Let's just add them to
Speaker 1: the team. We don't have that luxury as a Cowboys. Yes,
Speaker 1: we have a stacked offensive team with multiple guys out
Speaker 1: there who can catch the ball and do damage after
Speaker 1: they catch the ball. We're stacked offensively. Defensively, we're the
Speaker 1: exact opposite. We're injury prone, and we got demolished last year.
Speaker 1: So for me, if you're going out there saying, all right,
Speaker 1: let's just pick the our best, the best available player,
Speaker 1: he's the highest ranked on our board, and let the
Speaker 1: chips fall from there, I think you're gonna sit there
Speaker 1: and be in the same situation that you were in
Speaker 1: last year, where you have a struggling defense and an
Speaker 1: offense that can be one injury away from from from
Speaker 1: being you know, not as good as we thought they
Speaker 1: were coming into the season. So for me, I don't
Speaker 1: think we have that luxury of going best available player.
Speaker 1: I think we need to hit the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball and make sure that side of the ball
Speaker 1: can match our potential in our power on the offensive side.
Speaker 1: If we can do that, then we have a team
Speaker 1: that can actually do damage out there. But if we're
Speaker 1: just gonna keep stockpiling on offensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: I know it sales tickets, and I know they love
Speaker 1: to put up points and all this TV rings and
Speaker 1: all that good stuff, but you're not gonna win many games.
Speaker 1: You need to have a balanced team, and right now
Speaker 1: we're a heavily, heavily talented offensive team, not so much
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. That's why for me,
Speaker 1: if there was a defensive linement or a defensive you know,
Speaker 1: person in the front seven that stood out amazingly, I
Speaker 1: say we would go had to go get that guy.
Speaker 1: But there's not that guy in this draft on the
Speaker 1: defensive line that can make I think the changes that
Speaker 1: this team that this defense is need. There's just not
Speaker 1: that guy out there in this draft. So I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta address our secondary, and I think you go
Speaker 1: to I think he goes to our tam All right,
Speaker 1: So based on Patrick's your team and looking at so
Speaker 1: far of what people are projected, Okay, we could see
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks go early on the Cowboys. Could
Speaker 1: could be sitting here looking at Cirta, which, according to
Speaker 1: most rankings, is the highest rated defensive play. Let's say
Speaker 1: he goes nine to the Denver Broncos. If Patrick's off,
Speaker 1: If if Cirta's off the board, where do you go?
Speaker 1: That's a toughie, man. It depends how it depends how
Speaker 1: much I think personally, it depends how much you love
Speaker 1: the corner from South Carolina, Jays Horn. I believe his
Speaker 1: name is Yeah, I believe because killn Farley, the guy
Speaker 1: from Virginia, the corner from Virginia who many had above
Speaker 1: certain before he had this back surgery and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I think once he had those injuries and has to
Speaker 1: have surgery, I don't think that high. Yeah, he dropped out.
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't want to go that high and
Speaker 1: pick him because he won't even be ready until Campell,
Speaker 1: who knows how to shape and all that other type
Speaker 1: of stuff. So me, you gotta look at the corner
Speaker 1: from South Carolina to see if he if he's in
Speaker 1: the same ball parker, if he's in the same realm
Speaker 1: as a certain and he's worth getting that number ten pick.
Speaker 1: If not, then you might want to trade back. You
Speaker 1: might want to trade back, stop pile some picks and
Speaker 1: adjust the defense that that way, get a lot of
Speaker 1: picks on the defensive side of the ball that way.
Speaker 1: But for me, I'm still I'm still even if certain
Speaker 1: for some reason's not there, I'm still not go on offense.
Speaker 1: I just to me, I just we just don't have
Speaker 1: that luxury. So I would trade back. So let me
Speaker 1: throw this here at ten. Would you be comfortable with
Speaker 1: linebacker Micah Parsons from Penn State. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think because I don't think, okay, him at
Speaker 1: the linebacker would be that game changing of a player
Speaker 1: out there. I don't think he brings that that edge
Speaker 1: rusher that would go after the quarterback every day. I
Speaker 1: don't think he brings that Miles Garrett type playmaking ability
Speaker 1: every single down. I think he's a great piece, and
Speaker 1: I think he can be a great piece on a
Speaker 1: deep that surrounds him with great pieces as well. But
Speaker 1: at ten, Michael Parsons, he's super athletic, he can you know,
Speaker 1: he has all that, But I don't think he can
Speaker 1: fit in this defense, seeing that we already have a
Speaker 1: Keyan O'Neil. We got that jail and we got that LV.
Speaker 1: I just don't see where he would fit and then
Speaker 1: make our defense that much better seeing as a certain
Speaker 1: he could come in and plug and play immediately and
Speaker 1: upgrade our secondary. So for me, I still trade back.
Speaker 1: I don't see Michael Parsons as that type of game
Speaker 1: changing player out there. I could be wrong, but I
Speaker 1: just don't see him as that game changer. Now there's
Speaker 1: thoughts about the Cowboys trading out at ten, and I've
Speaker 1: talked about it before here. But if you are in,
Speaker 1: if you're wanting to trade up, say you're the Bears.
Speaker 1: You want to trade up and you want to acquire
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you know the Cowboys aren't taking one at ten,
Speaker 1: so you don't need to come up to ten. You
Speaker 1: go to eleven. See what I'm saying. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: Cogol Cowboys aren't the team you You probably don't call
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But it'll be interesting and if Justin Fields
Speaker 1: and I told you I had this process back in December,
Speaker 1: man I said, Man, Jack will fall on this process
Speaker 1: because it's just the way it happens. Man. Every year,
Speaker 1: it seems to be a not every year, but every
Speaker 1: few seasons there seems to be a black quarterback in
Speaker 1: the mix of the first round. He just gets obliterated
Speaker 1: through the scouting process and Justin Fields getting trashed. Dan
Speaker 1: Orlovski telling the Pat McAfee that he heard that Fields
Speaker 1: was quote last guy in, first guy out, and quote
Speaker 1: questions with Justin Fields work ethic and quote where's his
Speaker 1: desire to be a great quarterback? That these were things
Speaker 1: if people were telling him. Then he comes back out
Speaker 1: today with a very long, lengthy statement saying, Hey, I
Speaker 1: talked to Ohio State coaches and they dispute what was
Speaker 1: heard around here. But you're just still seeing Justin Fields
Speaker 1: take a hit. Now, if you're the Dallas Cowboys, this
Speaker 1: could play to your benefit. Maybe somebody does want to
Speaker 1: come to ten to get Justin Fields. We have seen
Speaker 1: the tenth overall pick in play. If you want a quarterback,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes was a ten Okay, Kansas City went from
Speaker 1: twenty seven to ten with the Buffalo Bills in order
Speaker 1: to get Patrick Mahomes, and the Bills ended up getting
Speaker 1: a first round pick the next year. And then the
Speaker 1: pick they used the twenty seven it was Tredavious White.
Speaker 1: What a great pick that turned out to be a trade.
Speaker 1: It turned out to be for the Buffalo Bills. Then
Speaker 1: the other ten pick we saw was Josh Rosen, where
Speaker 1: Arizona went up to go get him and they selected
Speaker 1: him from UCLA. Ended up not working out because the
Speaker 1: very next year they decided to go ahead and when
Speaker 1: they had the number one pick and they took Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: But we have seen ten in play, so how far
Speaker 1: how far did the Cowboys want to find? That could
Speaker 1: be that to me, could become the thing. If there's
Speaker 1: a trade in play, how far do you fall? The
Speaker 1: Bears could be there at twenty looking for something, The
Speaker 1: Patriots at fifteen could be looking for something. The Raiders,
Speaker 1: I think they married seventeen, they could be looking for something.
Speaker 1: So there's some teams that couldn't make a move. Before
Speaker 1: the Championshisco made the trade. I thought, hey, maybe they
Speaker 1: could do something here, and they did. But they went
Speaker 1: all the way the three. So we'll see, man, this
Speaker 1: thing and this thing. If they're a cowboy finger, why
Speaker 1: this wide open? It could be a possibility. I mean,
Speaker 1: you look at if the Jets decide to hold on
Speaker 1: to Sam Donald and just get you know, options around him,
Speaker 1: get weapons around him, you could see one of these
Speaker 1: quarterbacks dropped, you know, a Trey Lance or Justin Fields
Speaker 1: dropped all the way to ten. But I'm surprised, I'm remarkable.
Speaker 1: You were completely right about this about how Fields would
Speaker 1: get tracked. And I was just like wow, like I'm watching, yes,
Speaker 1: being and watching all these things, and no matter what's
Speaker 1: going on, I've never seen somebody dropped so far when
Speaker 1: there's no games to be played, Like there's see, we've
Speaker 1: seen what his resume has. He's been to the college
Speaker 1: football playoffs two years back to back as the Ohio
Speaker 1: State starting quarterback. And it's just after the games of
Speaker 1: being played. You say, all right, he's the second best
Speaker 1: quarterback in his draft as soon as the games are done.
Speaker 1: I don't see how he's dropped. I've seen some reports
Speaker 1: where he's beep down and maybe pick fifteen, like you said,
Speaker 1: pick fifteen with the Patriots. So I don't see how
Speaker 1: someone drops that far when there's no games being played.
Speaker 1: But like you said, it's just this is how it
Speaker 1: is nowadays. Hey man, I go back to when Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater was criticized for his hands. Oh, Teddy Bridger, he
Speaker 1: got small hand, got small hands, and I remember Gil
Speaker 1: Brand had tweeted something out about the hands. And then
Speaker 1: there was another quarterback. I can't remember the quarterbacks name,
Speaker 1: but the quarterback ended up having the same amount of hands,
Speaker 1: the same the same hand size, I should say, and
Speaker 1: they were like, yo, hands were good. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: And then Bridgewater and his mom, I guess his mom
Speaker 1: was his agent, and so he got docked on that
Speaker 1: and people like his pro day wasn't good that he
Speaker 1: wore the glove. I mean, it was a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff on Bridgewater where this young man they ended up
Speaker 1: getting run down and and it was crazy. It was
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. So, um, I'm not shocked. We saw what
Speaker 1: happened with Deshaun Watson. Who else got hit in this
Speaker 1: process here a couple of years ago. So it was
Speaker 1: Bridgewater Watson, it was another it was another black quarterback,
Speaker 1: and it's escaping my mind right now. But but we've
Speaker 1: seen this happen and it's just what it is. And
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, I told you it was going to be
Speaker 1: a guy that got hit. I remember telling Pat Doney
Speaker 1: my weekend guy over NBC five, and he didn't believe it.
Speaker 1: About Fields, I was like, dude, just watch this process
Speaker 1: is going to kill him because it normally does. And
Speaker 1: now we see a guy like Matt Jones rising up
Speaker 1: super high like we saw Mitchell Trubisky. So this is
Speaker 1: this process can be cold, and you just gotta hope
Speaker 1: that you don't fall in the in the crosshairs of
Speaker 1: it because it doesn't make sense. It didn't make sense
Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson. The very things that Deshaun Watson was
Speaker 1: criticized for his senior year for interceptions by Todd McShay
Speaker 1: were excused by Todd McShay when Sam Darnold came out.
Speaker 1: It's like both guys were asked to do a lot
Speaker 1: by their by their coaching staff and it resulted in picks.
Speaker 1: But the coaches were like, hey man, look um, we
Speaker 1: don't care. Just just just just stay you know, just
Speaker 1: do your thing. We don't care about the picks. Just
Speaker 1: you know, it was all on you. So it's a process.
Speaker 1: It is. It's tough, man, It's tough. John Finds seems booked.
Speaker 1: The quarterback Doug Williams talks about, Uh, these these instances
Speaker 1: in these cases for these quarterbacks, man, and it could
Speaker 1: be an unfair process. And there's gonna be some other
Speaker 1: players to get run down as well. This is what happens.
Speaker 1: It's time to the year. Guys get run down. But
Speaker 1: turn on the tape, is what I just simply say, Man,
Speaker 1: turn on the tape and if you just it, Fields,
Speaker 1: I feel for him. From that standpoint, you're also getting
Speaker 1: hit for Dwayne haskins failures. You're not Dwayne Haskins. To'd
Speaker 1: be like, you know, how come Ohio State quarterbacks don't
Speaker 1: do anything well until Patrick until Patrick Mahomes came along?
Speaker 1: To anybody in Texas exam was anybody producing anything from
Speaker 1: Mississippi State until Dak Prescott came along. So it's it's
Speaker 1: it could be an unfair process. So, uh, it is
Speaker 1: what it is, man, it is what it is. But
Speaker 1: uh too, it's tripped man. So I feel for Fields.
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