WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Have They Done Enough? 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:08.200 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:18.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:23.400 languge broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the start. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:33.599 Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, and NEWI Scrugs. Hi. 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:38.000 Everybody's special edition of the Player's Lodge. Normally we are 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.400 show that comes at you on Fridays, but because of 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.000 Good Friday, we are going to do the show today 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:47.080 on Thursday, and we'll try to make sure we retweet 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.760 it and put it out on all the social media channels. So, um, 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.120 let all your friends know, kay, same is the show 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.279 that we did the show today. I'm Scogs, a long 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:58.200 time Cowboys reporter, joined by our man, former Cowboys safety 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.720 Barry Church, our our other one and mate Danny mccraize. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.000 Got the week off, so Church, we're gonna go. We've 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.040 got a whole lot of topics to get to here. 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.319 It's April Fools Day, so we're not going to do 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:12.559 anything crazy here, especially knowing that your your wife already 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.880 got you on April Fool's Joke today. Man, she got 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.680 me good man six thirty in the morning. Uh, here 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.160 a loud bang, I wake up. She's Oh my goodness, baby, 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.920 the shovels followed all over your sports car, the windows busted. 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.080 I'm like, oh man, So I get up, crusted all 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.040 in my eyes. I'm running to the door, all what's 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.520 going on? Man? So I get to the garage door. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:36.360 April fools. Man, You know, it took me a minute 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:37.960 to laugh because I was kind of mad at first, 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:39.759 and I was like, man, I forgot those April fools. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:41.319 So she got me. She got me a good one 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:45.039 the day. And see she got you because she knows. 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.520 She knows that that that hot button point and you 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.120 know your car, oh yeah needs something, So she knew, 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.600 Oh she must. When you in the car, you go ahead, 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:54.720 what what? What? What? Not? My not my car? Not 0:01:54.840 --> 0:02:03.760 my car? So yeah, yeah, she got good. All right, 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:10.040 let's dive into something that you're talking about the Cowboy fans. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.120 Something they want, and let's dive into the why it 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:17.200 hasn't happened yet. Talking about linebacker kJ Wright looking at 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.120 the Dallas Cowboys in terms of trying to improve this 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.359 football team. Something we talked about here on the Players Lives. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.800 I've advocated its hey, bring in some guys that no 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.840 dan Quinn system, we did. You saw him do it 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.280 with coaches, You've done it with some players. Why not 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.720 adding even better player than Keyan O'Neill and Demante Casey 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.399 and kJ Wright who spent ten years as a linebacker 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.839 with the Seattle Seahawks. He's won a World championship there 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:45.280 and he's a free agent now. So kJ Wright, thirty 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.960 one years old, started sixteen games the last two seasons, 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:52.000 eighty six tackles, one interception, ten passes defended last year 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.720 and eleven tackles for loss of twenty sixteen Pro Bowler. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:56.320 What do you like about right and why do you 0:02:56.320 --> 0:03:00.680 want them? Look to me, I think kJ would be 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.239 an upgrade over what we have at the linebacker position 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.600 right now. I mean no disrespect to Lvee and Jalen Smith, 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.800 but I just believe kJ is an upgrade. I mean, look, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.000 he can go out there and he can be that 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.200 guy that covers so that you don't have to bring 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.840 a safety down or get one of these secondary players 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:17.799 to come down to cover a tight end. Because as 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.320 you just mentioned, last year, he had ten passes defense, 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.400 and that's huge for any defensive to have ten passes defense. 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.760 But he did that at the linebacker position, and if 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.120 you saw what he did at the Seattle defense or 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.480 what he's done for the Seattle defense, he was that 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.520 cover guy even when they had Cam Chancellor and Earl 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.280 Thomas back there. He was that guy that took away 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.680 tight ends and allow Cam Chancellor to be that that thumper, 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.160 that that rat, that low hole player that looks for 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.960 crossers and just uses his instinct to make plays out there. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.320 So I think it'd be a huge upgrade we were 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.200 able to get kJ right. He has the long arms 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:51.960 and like I said, he can cover and he's an 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.480 all down linebacker. He can play against the run, so 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.360 he can be your first and second down guy, and 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.200 he can play against the pass so he can be 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.960 that third down guy. The only thing I don't really 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.320 necessary love about the move if we try to get 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.600 kJ right, even though I see it as an upgrade, 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.760 it's what are you gonna do with Keyan O'Neil. I mean, 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.920 we got him in here to be that linebacker, that 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.440 hybrid linebacker, maybe a third down sub package guy, and 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.080 basically kJ Wright can do all that and more because 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.240 he can be your first and second down linebacker. So 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.160 if you bring him in there, what are we gonna 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.400 do with Kyan O'Neil, or we gonna move transisted him 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.640 all the way back to be that primary strong safety. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:28.920 And to me, I don't think that's a good move. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:30.760 I mean, we've seen this guy in the past. Yes 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.240 he's a thumper, Yes he's a good box safety, but 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:34.919 when you put him in a deep end of the field, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.640 when you make him that true safety, he struggles. And 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.680 he struggles in coverage as well, either zone or man, 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.039 he can struggle. So for me, I like where Keyan 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.920 O'Neil is right now being that sub linebacker. But if 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.440 you bring in an upgrade like kJ Wright, something has 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.360 to happen. Either you move Keyan O'Neil back, you take 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.120 you know, snaps away from Jalen Smith, or you get 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.400 rid of Jalen Smith altogether. I'm not sure what that 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.520 cap hit'll be because you know, his salary I believe 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.800 is fully guaranteed now as of a couple of weeks 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.040 ago or a couple of days ago. So for me, 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.479 I just don't understand what you would do bringing him in, 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.400 even though he's an upgrade, and even though he can 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.360 help this defense immensely. You just already have so many 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.200 players in those pieces. I would go I would go 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:15.360 ahead and do it, and I would get rid of 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.120 Jaylen Raley, or I would just put him in there 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.320 and with Kean O'Neil on third downs. But overall, it's just, 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.240 you know, you don't know what to do, even though 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.560 I see him as an upgrade, which you gotta see 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.039 what the front office thinks. All right, So let me 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.159 look at the Seattle end of this before I go 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.560 back into the Dallas Cowboys positive of trying to bring 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:39.760 in a kJ right ten year player. We're talking about 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.560 a guy who's been there, Walter Payton Man of the 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:47.320 Year nominee, so, you know, a good guy overall. Why 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:52.120 haven't they got him a new deal. We're talking about 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.919 a team that consistently competes in the playoffs. Does that 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.760 not set off a red flag and for you that, hey, 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.640 here's a real good football player. They're saying, we don't know. 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.520 I could see that, but it's like, you know, like 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:07.240 you just mentioned, he played sixteen games the past two seasons, 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.200 so it's not like he's injury prone or he's missing 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.200 games out here. And yeah, he's getting up there in 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.760 the age. Once you cross that that thirty threshold of the 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.640 the NFL, everybody kind of starts looking at you like 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.279 a grandpa. But he's still making plays out there, and 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.640 he's still playing at a high level. You just mentioned 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:25.880 the ten passes defense. So for me, man, I'm not 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.000 sure why they haven't brought him back. I mean, maybe they're, 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.839 you know, trying to get younger or going towards this rebuild. 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.719 But to me, he still has the ability to play, 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.320 and he still has to be able the ability to 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.680 play at a high level. So I'm not quite sure 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.760 why you know, Pete Carroll and the Seahawks haven't brought 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.039 him back, But hopefully the Cowboys can go ahead and 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.000 make that move for him. See if I were in 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.760 scouting and i'm Will McClay, that's the question I want 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.839 to answer like a good lord. Yeah, let me figure 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:55.640 out and find out why I do not have Why 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.760 this player does not have a contract when he's been 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:02.760 so good for so long in this organization. That that's 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.760 something I dive into. Now. On the flip side, if 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.880 you're Dan Quinn, obviously to get a player that knows 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.040 your system, who you've won a Super Bowl with, that's valuable, 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.480 and I can see the move for the Cowboys and 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.800 why they'd want a kJ Right. Here comes the next 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:20.160 question you have, what does he want? You know that 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.280 that truly is the big thing there. What does what 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.920 does kJ Right want to me? If I'm a good 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.440 football player and I'm out here this year in this market, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.040 especially since the first wave of free agency and the 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.600 good money's gone, I would like a one year deal 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.280 so I can put myself in a position next year 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:39.360 that the cap can go up a little bit more 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.760 and possibly get myself a multi year deal. But at 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.480 the same time, he's thirty one years old, so he 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.240 may be looking for a multi year deal right now 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:47.760 to say, hey, look, I don't know what thirty two 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.920 if somebody's gonna be willing to give me one as 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.680 a linebacker? So what does kJ want Right want in 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.720 order to play for the Dallas Cowboys? And if I'm 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.680 kJ Right, you know I'm looking at Lavonte David. I 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.040 think they're about the same age. I think maybe David 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.640 maybe thirty and kJ Race thirty one. But he just 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.920 got a multi year deal with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.040 where I think he's getting eleven eleven per year if 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.840 I'm not mistaken. So there's money to be had out 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.120 there for him in that age range. But you, like 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.440 you said, if I'm him, I might be just signing 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.120 the one year and hopefully they can give him for 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.560 maybe a one for six or one for seven, and 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.880 then when that money taps in with that TV agreement 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.480 with the NFL and those in the cat goes skyrockets 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.240 back up, he'll be able to hit the market again 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.080 for a multi year deal. But like you're saying that, 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:32.680 by the time that hits, I mean he might be 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.760 thirty two, thirty three by that time. And yeah, that 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.320 age it is hard. It's really hard to get a 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.000 multiple year deal unless you're a quarterback at that age 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.840 in the NFL. So he may be looking to hit it, 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.080 hit it one last time, hit hit a big deal 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.559 one last time, like Lavonte David did. But if he's 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.200 looking for that, sadly mistaken the Cowboys or not, I 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:52.920 don't think they'll be in the plans of making him 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:54.439 a multi year deal. I think this is more of 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.360 a one and done type deal. And if they can 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.959 get that done, I'm all for it. All right, you're 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.640 checking out the players last right here, on Dallas Cowboys 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.200 dot com. We're brought to you by hotels dot com. So, 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.200 if you have kJ Right, Layton Banderash and Jalen Smith 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:13.600 plus a Keyan O'Neil, if you're going into um a 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.600 nickel package, who are the two linebackers you want out there? 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.560 If you say we have kJ right, if you add 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.680 kJ right, who you know? You know you're going into 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.640 a nickel and dime situation. Who's going off the field. Yeah? 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.040 If if it's a nickel situation, which is usually just 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.360 two linebackers in there, I'm going with kJ and I'm 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.680 going with lve. The reason I'm taking Jalen and Keyan 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.600 o nile out one with Keyan O'Neil. If if they 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:41.240 do decide to run the ball and get us in 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.360 nickel and bring on eleven personnel just to get us 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.280 in nickel to run the ball, I gotta have a 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.240 bigger body in there. You know nothing against you know, 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.120 Keyano Nil. I know he's a thumper down in there, 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.480 But when you get those three hundred pound linebackers or 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:53.560 lineman running at you, it's hard to get him off you. 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.600 It's very very hard to get him off you. And 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.360 at his size, being undersized as a linebacker in there, 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.640 I think he would just get swallowed him hole in there. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.679 So I got to have a bigger body in there. 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.480 So I'm going with lve and then kJ Right. He 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.360 can do all the things as far as covering is concerned, 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.480 that a Keyan O'Neil can do. So I put kJ 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.559 right out there with him, and I let him handle 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.680 all the coverage responsibilities, dropping back being that low whole 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.000 player whatever you want to be, and I let Lvee 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.520 handle the run responsibilities and getting everybody lined up. So 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.200 I'd have those two out there just for the simple 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.400 fact you've got one big guy for the run, one 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.920 guy who's great at coverage, but he's also a bigger 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.840 body that can help him the run. I just don't 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.880 see Jalen Smith or Keyan O'Neill being able to provide that. 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.040 So for me, I got both of those guys ain't 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:36.760 going to nickel, and I think that'd be a hell 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.600 of a Nickel combination. I mean, you got kJ right, 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.560 l v E, you got you know, Wilson back there 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.160 at the strong KZ if he's able to come to 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.719 come together at the free safety, and you've got some. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.200 You've got two corners hopefully Patrick Surtan in there and 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.800 a solid nickel. You know, that's a that's a hell 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.400 of a combodation to throw out there. So, like I said, 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.400 I hope we do get kJ up in here. So, man, 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:02.280 I'm just pontificating here. If if you sign kJ right, 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:06.000 So if you have kJ Right, Layton Vanderresh, Jalen Smith, 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.480 Luke Gifford, Kean O'Neill, that's five linebackers and with an 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.720 extra game added to the schedule, and looking at the 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.800 health history in the past of a Layton band Resh, 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.160 this could be something dan Quinn can work with. And 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.440 we keep talking about giving the Carpenter tools. If he 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.719 had these five linebackers here, I believe these could be 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:28.400 good tools that he could go out on Opening Day 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.480 and feel good about his football team at the linebackers position. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.360 And this is before you get to the draft, which 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.559 happens later on this month. Oh, without a doubt. And 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.840 then like you said, Luke Gifford, you'd have depth there 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.440 and a Luke kit can also help out on special teams. So, 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.240 like to me, the linebacker position is where you want 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.120 the most depth at outside of the defensive line just 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.320 because they can do so many things. They can you know, 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.040 they got the run, they got the pass, but they 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.640 can also help you out on special teams. You always 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.000 want that big body guy I can run, who's athletic 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.360 on special teams. You've gotta have that in there. And 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.120 I think that's where the linebacker position can help us 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.960 overall with having more depth, helping on special teams, and 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.960 helping with the injury factor. Because we know Lbe he 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.480 hasn't lasted since his rookie year, so we know at 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.200 a certain point in this season he made miss a 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.400 game or two. Wouldn't you love love to have an 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.360 easily replacement in their kJ going near handled business. You 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.439 wouldn't even miss a step right there. I think it 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.400 would be a solid move, But we got to see 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:22.840 what Will in the front office are going to do. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:28.200 All right, So let's dive into this Demante Kazy contract. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.880 It's one year, one point two seven million dollars and 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.680 the player got one hundred and thirty seven thousand, five 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.839 hundred dollars to sign. When you see that, you basically 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.600 come to the conclusion that, all right, the Cowboys five 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.760 million dollar contract a whole lot of it is just 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.640 kind of smoke, which is what I was gonna say 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.199 about the Labonte David contract in Tampa Bay. They're signing 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.040 a bunch of these contracts with avoidable years, so a 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.800 lot of it is smoke. So the whole kazy deal 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.480 of five million dollars really isn't five mill But in 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:02.320 your opinion, what are they fil I mean that Neil 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.880 got five million, but I mean what what what Neil 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.640 got the five million? But I mean what Casey's got 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.760 with the one year, one point one to seven million dollars. 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:14.520 What do you think they're saying about the player. I'm 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.560 saying that they're telling him, but you gotta come here, 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.559 you gotta make the team. I mean, it's not if 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.840 you get not not to say that that's such a 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.640 low number. But we're talking about NFL. You're talking about 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.160 contracts in the secondary and starting safeties and what they're 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.360 getting out there. When you get a number that low, 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.560 they're telling that player, Look, you you got to make 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.560 the team. You're not guaranteed to come in here, and look, 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.920 you are solidified as a starter day one. They gave 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.640 you basically money that you know that you gotta go 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.079 out there and earn your job, and you gotta earn 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.960 your reputation out there, and I think Casey will be 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.360 able to do that seeing as though when he is healthy, 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.120 he is a ball hawk out there, and that's what 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.600 we kind of need at that free safety position, especially 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.760 in that hole in dan Quinn's position, because you need 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.840 a guy that has super range. I could go back 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:56.640 and forth. So if he can come on to the 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.360 field healthy and playing his best ball, and I think 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.440 he'll be able to make the team. But it shows 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.280 me that this team is saying you gotta make it, 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.480 and that also they're gonna look at a safety in 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.760 the draft. They're gonna look at the safety I think 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.120 in the draft that can help can promote some type 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.760 of competition back there, because if they wanted CAZy to 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.400 have the job solely, they able to pay them as such, 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:17.920 and they would have said, hey, you know here, this 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:19.320 is your job to have. We want you to be 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.400 the leader back there, but they didn't pay them. They 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.520 gave him that minimum with I think it was one 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.600 hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars sign and voter society. 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.640 He has to he has to make the team, and 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.040 they're gonna bring in competition, whether it be the draft 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.920 or whether they bring in somebody else in free agency. 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.720 They're gonna bring in competition. But the sole job of 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.440 that free safety, I don't think is just simply Cazy's job. 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.680 He's gonna have to make the team, get healthy, and 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.800 he's gonna have to compete in camp, and if he's 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:45.160 able to do that and come out with the job, 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.200 then they have a good free safety on their hands 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.280 for the load. But overall, he's gonna have to make 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.360 the team, and I think they're gonna bring competition for him. 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.960 I think of this as a positive positive, meaning here's 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.520 somebody that understands the system, so he can help teaching 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.840 to the other people. Other positive is if Kazy is 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:03.920 not the player that they think he is, they can 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.360 cut him into not losing any money. And the other 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.520 positive to me is you need options. This is a 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:15.120 team that last year which stuff went bad. The options 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.120 were awful. Okay, the options were awful, So if the 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.000 right right, So if you've got Kaz, and you could 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.520 add some more through the draft, possibly more through free agency, 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.120 once again, give the carpenter more tools to work with. 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:34.960 So I'm trying to be positive in terms of looking 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.520 at what they're doing and how this can work. Ultimately, 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.640 you're going to need options. Dudes aren't always going to 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.600 be healthy under defense or on the offense, and Casey's 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.480 a guy coming off an injury. So I think the 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.680 Cowboys have really protected themselves in a lot of ways here. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.400 If Kaz ends up playing well, then great. I go 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.640 back and look at a kid from TCU, Jason Brett, 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.520 who ended up signing a one year deal last year 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.840 with San Francisco at quarterback, played really well as a 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.040 four first round pick of the just couldn't stay healthy 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.440 last year, one year deal, played well, and end up 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.520 signing another deal with them. So I kind of look 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.520 at CAZy this situation here. It's a deal that goes 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.560 heavily towards the team and gives the player something to 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.640 really strive for and the players at least in a 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:17.120 system that the player understands. And I just I just 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.880 see a lot of positive check Martine for the Cowboys 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.040 from a financial standpoint and the potential of what the 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.680 player could do if help it. Let me ask you 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.880 a question, why do you think this organization just it 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.200 puts such a low just such a low bar on 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.280 a safety position, like what you don't think they would 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.240 Why wouldn't they go out there and solidify that safety position. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.800 They could have gotten you know, Anthony Harris for five million, 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.280 They could have got a Ricardo Allen for nothing. Crazy. 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.120 It wouldn't up broke the bank, but they would have 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.440 solidified it, like, look, this is our guy going forward 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.920 at free safety. This is it instead of running all 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.720 these you know, all these not examples but experiments, like 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:53.720 you know, they all these experiments they got going on, 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.120 instead of just solidifying that free safety or why do 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.640 you think that is? This is the frustration for me 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:01.880 as a media member not having an opportunity to talk 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.760 to Dan Quinn. I would love to ask him the question, 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.280 what are you looking for back here? Tell me what 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:12.480 the blueprint is for this defense here in Dallas that 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.439 you're going to run because we don't know. And the 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.960 other portion is they keep telling us, hey, we got 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:20.920 some money, but we know they don't really have some money. 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:26.800 So that's you know, these are great, great, great questions, 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:30.080 and maybe they're thinking that they'll get somebody post June first, 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.600 or they'll thinking, hey, look we'll try to address this 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.080 as much as we can in the draft. I don't know, Barry. 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.680 I mean really, I don't know, because I'm not really 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.840 one sure of what the blueprint is, not just for 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.800 the defense, but overall for the organization right now where 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:46.800 you're trying to go, where you're trying to get to 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.240 go back to Zekiel because that A guy stop me 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.920 yesterday when I was taping my type of sports cast outside. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.800 He says, man, how many more years of Zeke? And 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.320 I said, if I were you, I wouldn't be frustrated 0:17:58.320 --> 0:17:59.800 with them. I said, I wouldn't be frustrated with the 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.800 as much as I would be frustrated with the process. 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:07.040 That the organization paid Ezekiel Eli ninety million dollars at 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.320 the time, the richest contract for a running back, and 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.119 they go hire a coach who doesn't believe in the 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.760 run game. That's not what he does. He's a passing 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:17.879 game guy. So you can look at the player, but really, 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:19.520 at some point in time, when do you look at 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.639 the organization and say, well, what are you? You know, 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.520 what are you trying to do? Because we had a 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:26.920 better clue of what they were trying to do under 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:28.679 Jason Garret, we knew they wanted to run the football, 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.600 have a big, old offensive line. But if you're trying 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.239 to be a passing team, do you need a big 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.399 offensive line? And do you need to have spent this 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.480 much money on the running back. Oh, by the way, 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.040