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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, Straight

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Speaker 1: Fire Fan, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire, Wednesday, September

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Speaker 1: twenty two, Little hump Day action for you. We've got

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Speaker 1: a special guest today. I've known him for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's um, the person that a lot

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Speaker 1: of folks on social media want to make him out

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Speaker 1: to be. His name is Darren Ravelle. You probably know him.

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Speaker 1: He used to cover sports business. Now he covers a

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Speaker 1: lot of gambling stuff for sports And you know, I've

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Speaker 1: known him for about fifteen years and we have a

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Speaker 1: lengthy interview life liberty, the pursuit of gambling. He's in

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Speaker 1: a memorabilia I'm not so much UM, but it's fun.

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Speaker 1: I like Ravelle. I'm sure a lot of the people

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Speaker 1: who hate follow him or me on social media will

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Speaker 1: definitely get worked up and clip stuff off and try

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Speaker 1: to make us look bad. But that's the price you

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Speaker 1: pay for putting out a daily podcast. Anyways. Darren revels

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Speaker 1: a great guy, UM. I like, he's a normal dude,

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Speaker 1: has a family. Uh. Someone actually was willing to marry him.

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Speaker 1: Unlike all these anonymous people who come after folks on

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Speaker 1: social media. Uh, and I tell the I tell some

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Speaker 1: good stories with revel dating back many many years, so

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Speaker 1: I think you guys will enjoy that. UM. I just

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Speaker 1: want to quickly go over this quarterback situation in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Did you have you guys noticed the injuries? Um Ben

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Speaker 1: late Tuesday at three and a half. Um, it's unclear

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Speaker 1: the immortal Davis Mills from Stanford, the one time five

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Speaker 1: star recruit who I believe had five knee surgeries. That's

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Speaker 1: an exaggeration. Um, he's starting Thursday. Uh. You got the

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton situation unresolved to a tongue Valoa and his issues.

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz with two spring dank. We don't know his status.

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Speaker 1: We don't know a Derek Carr by the way ankle injury,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what the deal is with him. It's

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Speaker 1: one of those weird weeks where the one position you

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Speaker 1: does so much damage to trickle down is enormous. You

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Speaker 1: could have an awesome, awesome primetime game for Sunday night

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Speaker 1: those teams goes down, suddenly you're looking at Nick Mullins

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Speaker 1: against Jalen Hurts or something along those, you know, and

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Speaker 1: it's just like, am I really watching this? I'm gambling

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Speaker 1: on it. I'll probably have fantoms implications, but the reality

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Speaker 1: is we need healthy quarterbacks in the league and that's

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Speaker 1: kind of why you gotta protect them. Um, Protecting Brady

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Speaker 1: has worked. Yes, I know the future is bright at

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Speaker 1: mahomes Uh to a lesser extent Lamar Jackson. But frankly,

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Speaker 1: it's obvious we need to protect the quarterbacks. If they're

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Speaker 1: not healthy, forget about it. You know you got a really,

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Speaker 1: really crappy product. All right, Without further ado, let's get

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Speaker 1: to the man, the myth, the legend. Darren Ravel of

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Speaker 1: The Action Network. Jason likes to think he knows everything

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Speaker 1: when it comes to sports. I know what sports dance want,

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Speaker 1: but for everything he doesn't he knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a

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Speaker 1: to straight fire. A guest I've known for probably about

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Speaker 1: fifteen years. Uh, we'll have random days every like six

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Speaker 1: He covered sports business. He's been at ESPN, He's been everywhere.

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Speaker 1: He is at Action Network now Darren Rovel, Darren, how

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Speaker 1: are you, Bud? How are you? I'm excellent. You know,

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Speaker 1: I cannot complain. Life is good, kids are in school,

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Speaker 1: you know, sports are happening. Gambling is fairly profitable so

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Speaker 1: far this season. UM, I don't know how. I'm more

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Speaker 1: curious about, how are you doing? How are you holding up?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? You know. Uh, we've figured out that COVID

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Speaker 1: So I mean, like, it's been amazing to cover this.

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Speaker 1: So people want to make money in a way where

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Speaker 1: you there for sex. So let's say I have a

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Speaker 1: just say you have that ticket. Why is that worth Well,

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Speaker 1: ESPN had the chalk Probably I went from like fifteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty to forty stories a year on gambling, and

424
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Speaker 1: I said, can I do this full time? And it

425
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Speaker 1: became yes in you know, October of two thousand eighteen,

426
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Speaker 1: three or four months in when I'm like, wow, this

427
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: is like, this is right. It's funny. When I got

428
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Speaker 1: to Fox twenties sixteen, um, you know, I was like,

429
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Speaker 1: I can do more than this. And by seventeen I

430
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Speaker 1: was doing video NFL picks every week and gambling before

431
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Speaker 1: it was legal. I mean basically you could see what's

432
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Speaker 1: the Wayne Gretzky quote, skate where the puck is going,

433
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Speaker 1: not where it has been, and you can see the

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Speaker 1: gambling coming. So Fox, I have picks going all the

435
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Speaker 1: way back to four Fox and now it's like Fox. Listen,

436
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna brag and say what at the forefront,

437
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Speaker 1: but we're really crushing it from a content perspect and

438
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Speaker 1: it's funny. I do think it's funny how the Fox

439
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Speaker 1: Free Game show guys are like the win by six,

440
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Speaker 1: like like the I know they have NFL partners, but

441
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: it's very it's very funny how they're doing spreads without

442
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Speaker 1: saying they're doing spreads. I'm curious where do you when

443
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Speaker 1: do you think of tipping point hits or are we

444
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Speaker 1: already there but California still not legal? H there are

445
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Speaker 1: some big is. I don't think Texas is legal, right,

446
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: California and Texas are not legal. Florida, Massachusetts, Florida are not.

447
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Speaker 1: Those are some of the states. We're at twenty were states.

448
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Speaker 1: By the end of this year, states will be fully

449
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Speaker 1: operational in some capacity either mobile, retailer both. Um. But

450
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Speaker 1: but the you know the big states that people you

451
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Speaker 1: know complain about our Ohio, Florida, California, Texas, Massachusetts, UM.

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Speaker 1: You know, those are some of the states that yeah,

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Speaker 1: the uh, we'll start to wrap up here. I am

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Speaker 1: curious as to where you think this goes for sports leagues.

455
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: Obviously they're partnering with sports books everywhere, but as recently,

456
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Speaker 1: as you said, like three years ago, they were like

457
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Speaker 1: no gambling, no talk, none of that. I mean, it

458
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Speaker 1: has to be a staple now of pregame shows, right, pregame,

459
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Speaker 1: post game everything. So the question, I think the question,

460
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Speaker 1: I think it's definitely pregame, postgame. The question is is

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Speaker 1: my TV feed going to uh look like CNBC, my

462
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Speaker 1: former employer, And how much are they going to do

463
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Speaker 1: with the on screen gambling and drive live betting, because

464
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, live betting is about I think probably around

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Speaker 1: thirty of all betting from a money standpoint, all over

466
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Speaker 1: all over in the US. That that sounds high, it's

467
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's about right, and in Europe it's see. Now,

468
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Speaker 1: what's amazing is we in the US have sports that

469
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Speaker 1: are more likely to be live that. I mean they

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Speaker 1: have soccer, which is like there's no stoppages. We have

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Speaker 1: natural stoppages in baseball and football, and so so I

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Speaker 1: think that numbers going to be eight percent okay in

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Speaker 1: the next two years, and that means that the gambling

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Speaker 1: companies are going to want to drive betting and remind

475
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Speaker 1: people to bet with them live, and that means that

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Speaker 1: it has to be on the screen in some way.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder though, like Darren, this makes sense. But

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Speaker 1: outside of football season, so we're talking February through August,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the appetite exists for baseball basketball. I

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Speaker 1: mean maybe March madness, but NFL certainly all week the market.

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Speaker 1: You're looking at the market. You got the screen open.

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Speaker 1: But outside of NFL are the market the market? The

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Speaker 1: market exists, it does just as you look at all

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Speaker 1: the numbers. The market exists. It's just not as big.

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Speaker 1: The question for me is is baseball going to you know,

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Speaker 1: Rob Manfred and some of the gambling companies have bet

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Speaker 1: that the slowness of baseball, And I don't think you're

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Speaker 1: betting on pitch per pitch. No one's pitched by pitch,

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Speaker 1: no one's doing, but but we'll we'll be Will baseball

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Speaker 1: do it? You know what will baseball do? And will

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Speaker 1: it help? I don't know. All right, let's wrap up

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Speaker 1: NFL Week three or I mean wait, wait, college football?

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Speaker 1: Is there a game you absolutely love? Have you bet

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Speaker 1: anything yet this week in college? I have not been

495
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Speaker 1: anything this week in college normally what I'm a late better.

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Speaker 1: I'm usually bet I'm usually betting. Um, you know I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a quick better. I don't try to get

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Speaker 1: the value I like to see all week, um I am.

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Speaker 1: I am normally a total under better those That's my

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Speaker 1: my biggest bet on both college in the NFL. I

501
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Speaker 1: look for totals that have moved two or three points, um,

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Speaker 1: and then I bet the under of it. So I

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Speaker 1: have like the after it's moved, correct, I mean, Washington Buffalo,

504
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: have you hit that yet? I have not hit that yet.

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Speaker 1: So I got into forty seven Monday morning, forty five

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Speaker 1: and a half most places, forty six some places. Um,

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard other people talk about this, but I

508
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Speaker 1: said it on the pod yesterday, like it went from

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Speaker 1: forty to forty five and a half. So mc dermott

510
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Speaker 1: and Rivera were together in Carolina. They too low, right, yes,

511
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Speaker 1: too low. So they were buddies working together on the

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Speaker 1: same coaching staff and Carolina. When they finally met after

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Speaker 1: McDermott left, the first score of their game was nine

514
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Speaker 1: to three. These are like two defensive minded guys. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how points are scored in this one Buffalo Washington.

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Speaker 1: I mean I hit that earlier under under forty forty five,

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Speaker 1: forty four. I usually won't take although if there's something

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Speaker 1: that seems obvious to me, like like the Jets, I mean, god,

519
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Speaker 1: the Jets Patriots game was it was an easy under

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Speaker 1: for you, easy easy under four that was forty That

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Speaker 1: got that at forty three forty two. Um, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I just love the under because there's inherently value

523
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Speaker 1: on the under, because people don't root for the under,

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Speaker 1: So I look for unders. What about will you take it?

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Speaker 1: Will you hold your nose and grab Tampa rams under

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Speaker 1: fifty five and a half. I've been worried about Brady,

527
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: but but but you have to think of the defense.

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Speaker 1: I love fifty five and a half. I love that

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Speaker 1: that number is a good number for me. I I

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Speaker 1: I like that I would probably I would probably hit

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Speaker 1: that people seem to forget when so FI open last year,

532
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Speaker 1: and I know there was no fans. I think the

533
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Speaker 1: Unders were hitting at like for most of the season

534
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Speaker 1: and then it regressed a little bit. But everybody had

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Speaker 1: the over in Chargers Cowboys and it was under by

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Speaker 1: a mile and there was only one punt in the

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Speaker 1: whole game. I'm excited as far as sides. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to uh to take a ton of favorites because I

539
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Speaker 1: think it's you know, we've now we've now hit two

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Speaker 1: weeks of uh well, yeah, I mean the favorites came

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Speaker 1: back a little bit this week, but I think they'll

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Speaker 1: be They'll be under, They'll be underbook. So I'm gonna

543
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Speaker 1: look at the favorites this week. Fox Sports Radio has

544
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Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all

545
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546
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Speaker 1: within the I Heart Radio app. Search f s R

547
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Speaker 1: to listen. Five. I'm curious, uh last question. San Francisco

548
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Speaker 1: favored by three and a half at home against the Packers,

549
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Speaker 1: touching that I didn't touch last night either. By the way,

550
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Speaker 1: I'm what am I missing your Why is San Francisco?

551
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: I know that killed them twice I don't there there

552
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Speaker 1: there are some teams that I just universally don't touch.

553
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: I honestly do not have any confidence that I know thets.

554
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Speaker 1: I just I have no confidence, and maybe later in

555
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: the season I will, but I don't know who they are.

556
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: I think I know who the Packers are. Obviously they've

557
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: had two polar games, but I'm not touching that game.

558
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: The way you make money in gambling is not touching

559
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: the games, because the way you win money in gambling

560
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: is to not gamble. That that's the advice. Don't don't. Don't.

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Speaker 1: Don't bet on games that you're watching just because you're

562
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Speaker 1: watching it and you bet on it. Don't. Come on,

563
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: who doesn't love a good action play? Come on, if

564
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: you want to make money, I just told you I, Oh,

565
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: well that's I mean. I mean just just like pizza money,

566
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: you put down fifty bucks, hundred dollars just for fun.

567
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: That's fun. That's fun. But then people they want to

568
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: win money and then they tell me it was because

569
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: they were on the couch, and I'm like, that's two

570
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 1: different things. Like don't know you bet the game that like,

571
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, the most money? Now I got I got crushed.

572
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: But I had a tremendous amount of money on the

573
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Speaker 1: falcons this week, and and obviously I would have won.

574
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 1: I mean those two freak interceptions. You were you were

575
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: in good shape early fourth quarter? I was. I was

576
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: in great shape. I was in great shape. I love

577
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Speaker 1: the high numbers, by the way, I love the high numbers.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I actually I forgot. I wanted to ask

579
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Speaker 1: you a, uh, where's your wife on this gambling stuff?

580
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: And be when you're hanging with these friends that you

581
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: brag about, Hey, I got this ticket from the game

582
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: like two hundred years ago. Um, do you talk to

583
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Speaker 1: them about a lot of gambling or is it more

584
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: just sports in general? Sports in general sports? And on

585
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: on the wife on gambling. Um, as long as I'm

586
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Speaker 1: not betting my face off so badly that I'm not

587
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Speaker 1: paying attention to my family, right, So like Saturdays and

588
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: Sundays are hard, right, But I'm juggling my My boys

589
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: are in five sports lacrosse, football, street hockey, basketball, and soccer.

590
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: So wait, wait, go to street hockey. Street hockey is

591
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: just hockey on like a blacktop. But is it roller

592
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: is it like rollerblades or something. No, it's just it's

593
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: it's you're in pads and kneepads and you're and you're

594
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Speaker 1: just you're running to the to the ball. Is that

595
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: that's a leak? Yes? Wow, I've never heard of that. Yes. Yeah.

596
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: It's tough with the juggling sports and gambling, and then

597
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,239
Speaker 1: you got your friends texting you, hey, hey, it's half time.

598
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: What do you think about halftime? Player? So listening the

599
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Speaker 1: juggling of football, you know. My wife, no, it was

600
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: a couple of things. She knows that I'm I'm pretty

601
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Speaker 1: much garbage before twelve on a on a on a

602
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: Saturday and the Sutnday right because I'm sitting down and

603
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: doing some things and doing some shows. She also knows,

604
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: like when the games are actually going on, like I'm

605
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: not trying to put anything on Twitter because it's just

606
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: a just a dump of things that's pool. Yeah, but

607
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: but she does know that I'm also garbage twenty minutes

608
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Speaker 1: before the game's ends because there's everything's closed. She'll tell

609
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Speaker 1: you she if you do ask if you asked Courtney,

610
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Speaker 1: when you know, when does Darren have to go into

611
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: his office, it's three forty five, because three four fifteen

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00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: that's when everything is closing. Up and then I got

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Speaker 1: to do it again at the end of the of

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Speaker 1: the second set of games and in between, you know.

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Speaker 1: So she knows times basically, you know. And that's how

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Speaker 1: we work. And otherwise I'm shuttling kids and looking at

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Speaker 1: the phone and I'm not watching much, like I am

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Speaker 1: watching the Red Zone when I can, but like I'm

619
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Speaker 1: watching the Action Network. Been seeing where my money is

620
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Speaker 1: in the moment, which is kind of crazy. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: n IFL. My wife gets it. She calls herself a

622
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Speaker 1: Sunday NFL widow during the season because I'm not I

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Speaker 1: just not doing anything. I don't care somebody's getting married.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, not doing it. If I have to fly

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00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: out of town Saturday wedding, fine, I'm on the first

626
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Speaker 1: flight back Sunday or the last flight out Saturday night.

627
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Speaker 1: Like my daughter's got a camping trip and all these

628
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Speaker 1: dads are organizing it, and I'm like, yeah, we're in

629
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Speaker 1: for Friday, but uh, I gotta leave Saturday night. You know,

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Speaker 1: That's just how it is during football season. It's that important,

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Speaker 1: all right. He is Darren Revel Action Network. He's uh,

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Speaker 1: he's a good follow on the Graham He's he's He's

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Speaker 1: obviously combative on Twitter. Uh some inevitably, I love the

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Speaker 1: Graham more than Twitter by far as well to Uh,

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Speaker 1: somebody's gonna text me and be like, how did you

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Speaker 1: not ask about him? Versus Clay Travis. Listen, Obviously, I

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Speaker 1: work sometimes with Clay Travis at Fox, so I'm not

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Speaker 1: getting into that. UM. I think I respect parts of Clay. UM.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes he says what he says because is uh,

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Speaker 1: it makes him money and he doesn't really believe it.

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Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. In other news, the Eagles

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Speaker 1: Cowboys game, Fox sends all these researchers Eagles Cowboys just

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Speaker 1: will wrap up on this. Darn the home team in

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Speaker 1: the last five matchups five and oh against the spread.

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Speaker 1: That's just so random and crazy, and probably use that.

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Speaker 1: I don't even care. It doesn't matter. It's just that,

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, in the last five matchups the home

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Speaker 1: team is undefeated against the spread. I like that. I

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Speaker 1: like dealing with the Cowboys in general because I always

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Speaker 1: think that they're they get you know, they're they're over bet.

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Speaker 1: And my greatest life bet of my life was Cowboys

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Speaker 1: bills on Thanksgiving two years ago. A year ago. Can't

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Speaker 1: remember Cowboys were favored, and you know when you think

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Speaker 1: about the live algorithms, you think about, well, what when

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Speaker 1: do they get screwed up? They get screwed up on

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Speaker 1: the most casual gambling day besides the Super Bowl, Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: and with and with a team that everyone loves, the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: So I had a plan. I always tell people, just

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Speaker 1: because just because you can tweet, don't just tweet just

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Speaker 1: because you can tweet, Okay, don't just live gamble because

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Speaker 1: it's live. You should have If you're gonna live gamble,

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Speaker 1: you should have a position going in. So my position

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Speaker 1: going into that game is I hope the Cowboys score first,

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Speaker 1: maybe a field goal, ideally a touchdown. If they score,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to pound the Bills money line because because

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Speaker 1: the live money line will with the algorithm, with the

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Speaker 1: casual betting, is not going to be what it should be.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys go up seven nothing it should in that moment,

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Speaker 1: it was like five minutes in, the Bills should have

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Speaker 1: been about plus three at the most, they were plus

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Speaker 1: five fifty. I hit that big. Eight minutes later the

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Speaker 1: Bills are up four seven one, and then it's over

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Speaker 1: and I hate I hate Thanksgiving food, just hate it?

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Speaker 1: What you hate Thanksgiving food? What's wrong with you? I

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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't eat the stuffing. I can't. I

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Speaker 1: don't like turkey, that type of turkey. I like Delhi turkey.

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Speaker 1: And I was smiling. My wife's like, you hate this

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Speaker 1: holiday other than like, other than winning on a NFL

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Speaker 1: gambling Oh my god, I was, I was a turkey.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was so happy, awesome. All right, Darren Revel,

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Speaker 1: good dude, he's a good guy. I don't care what

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Speaker 1: the people say on social media. It's social media's fake anyway, right,

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Speaker 1: it's all bs. All these keyboard warriors can anyways. I'm

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Speaker 1: getting now, I'm getting upset, Darren. All right, Hey, thanks

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Speaker 1: for taking the time. Man continued access at actually network.

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Speaker 1: Thank thank you. And if you're gonna hate me, hate

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Speaker 1: me to my face, come up to me. Nobody does that.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's ever come up to me. Has anyone ever come

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Speaker 1: up to you and said, dude, I hate you? You

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Speaker 1: suck one or one or two times, but it's always

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Speaker 1: with a laugh. For a you know, take a picture

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Speaker 1: with me, bunny years put in your Twitter profile? What

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Speaker 1: are we in the middle school? Oh my gosh, that

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Speaker 1: is that's pathetic. I mean, my problem is if someone

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Speaker 1: was a jerk to me, I wonder if we would

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Speaker 1: go to fists. But I'm that's just not in my

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Speaker 1: d n A um hm I have I've never really

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Speaker 1: thought about that. The only the only time I go

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Speaker 1: to fists is is when the flight attendant says, sorry

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Speaker 1: for the innvenience, but the WiFi can you put? I

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna say, can you pull your mask up?

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Speaker 1: But oh, here we go FI speaking of fists. Um

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Speaker 1: how what? Why? Why isn't barstool paying you to fight

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Speaker 1: somebody in the ring. I don't know. I was willing

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Speaker 1: to fight the f t uh. I asked for what

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Speaker 1: I thought was a reasonable a dollar figure of two

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Speaker 1: million dollars. If jose Canseco, who's like random as tell

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Speaker 1: gets like one point three million dollars, I just for

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Speaker 1: two million dollars, we would sell the hell out of it.

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Speaker 1: I listen, if you could get me on that undercard

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Speaker 1: and get me seven figures, I'll definitely fight some for

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Speaker 1: a mill who cares as long as somebody in my

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Speaker 1: weight class. I'm not now p f T is that

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Speaker 1: the guy who wears a long hair in the glasses right, yes, yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're I don't. I don't even. Ultimately, Portnoy said he

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Speaker 1: he would, he would not. He knows that if I've

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Speaker 1: made two million dollars, I'd experienced great joy and he couldn't,

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Speaker 1: he couldn't accept whatever that guy alright, man, take it easy,

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Speaker 1: thanks again, right later