1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Does a dead person hold 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: the key? 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: Have the answers to a little girl who goes missing 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: in the middle of the night. 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about a. 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: Nine year old little girl de scrub In Sunshine, Asha Degree, 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 2: who disappears from her home literally in the middle of 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: the night. Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: for being with us. 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: In the early hours of Valentine's Day. Why does a 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: nine year old girl leave her home in the middle 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: of a dark, stormy night? 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: Why does a nine year old little girl leave home 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: in the middle of the night. 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Now, when we hear. 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: That happens, I immediately suspect the family because totistically, when 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: a child goes missing in the. 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Middle of the night, you can look right at mommy or. 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: Daddy or onto your uncle. But I don't believe that's 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: the case. Here where is Ausha. She had never run 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: away from home. She had great grades at school. She 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: was this little star, a star on the basketball court, 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: very shy everywhere, but the basketball court never gave anybody 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: a minute's trouble. This little girl has a million dollar smile. 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: I don't understand what happened to Usha? Joining me right now? 26 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: Are two guys that have been on this case. It's 27 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: right in their own backyard from the beginning. It's Donnie 28 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: Peeler and Dale Champion. And if you're not familiar with them, 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: I wish that you were, because they are the hosts 30 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: of crack House Chronicles. Now, having been to plenty of 31 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: crack houses myself as a prosecutor, I have mixed feelings 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: about the title of your podcast, hosts of crack House 33 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: Chronicles true crime podcast. 34 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: But what I do like is what they're doing. First 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: of all, listen to this. 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 4: I remember it was roughly about two thirty in the morning. 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 4: I seen her go to the bathroom. I remember I 38 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: heard her go to the bathroom. She had to pajamas on, 39 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 4: and she goes to the bathroom. I waited her to 40 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 4: come back into the room. She got into bed. I 41 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 4: cut the light off and I went to sleep. 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: You're seeing a Bryant Degree on Facebook Live. He's talking 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: about his sister Asha. What more do we know? 44 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 5: The night before Valentine's Day is stormy and shelby. Around 45 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 5: seven pm, the Degree's neighborhood loses power. Equila Degree normally 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 5: bays the children before their eight pm bedtime. But with 47 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 5: the power out, she decides to wake them up early 48 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 5: tomorrow for baths before school. Harold Degree gets home from 49 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 5: work around midnight and checks to make sure the children 50 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 5: are asleep. Is still overcoming her fear of the darkened storms. 51 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 5: Harold winds down in front of the TV and checks 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 5: on the children again around two AM before going to 53 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 5: bed himself. 54 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: Just thinking about this nine year old little girl that 55 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: is afraid of lightning and thunder outside, and the mom 56 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: making sure they have their bats and they're in their 57 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: pjs early on. I can't remember at this age I 58 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: would have the children bathed and in their pjs when 59 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: we ate supper at night. I'm just imagining little Asia 60 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: being afraid of the storm. And listen, I want you 61 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: to hear more of what her brother o'bryen says. 62 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 6: So well. 63 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 7: Mother used to knock on the wall to wake us up, 64 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 7: and she was like, y'all get up. She was getting 65 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 7: ready for work and whatnot? She said, or your sister, 66 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 7: I said, she in the bed like you know, playing 67 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 7: at the biddom as sleep. I ain't trying to get up. 68 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 7: I thought my mom just couldn't see my sister like 69 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 7: me and my sister used to sleep with the blanket 70 00:03:58,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 7: poured over our head. 71 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: Can't you just imagine that mom in the next room. Okay, 72 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: get up, get up, get up. 73 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: And there's always such a rush in the mornings when 74 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: everybody's trying to go to work and go to school 75 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: and get breakfast and make sure all the tea's across 76 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: the eyes are dotted before they go out the door. 77 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 2: And that's what was happening that morning. So the brother 78 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: O'Brien says, yeah, yeah, she's here. 79 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: They shared a. 80 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: Room, as my twins did for many many years, as 81 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: I did with my sister. 82 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: But there is a very subtle but critical fact. 83 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 8: Listen, I get up out of my bed half sleep. Okay, Mom, 84 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 8: maybe she went. Maybe she went in there to eat 85 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 8: breakfast or something. Maybe she woke up barely, because it 86 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 8: wasn't new for us, like we woke up. Really I 87 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 8: thought she was in there eating breakfast. At that point 88 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 8: in time, it was like, what's going on? Like where's Asia, 89 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 8: What's going on? 90 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: Where's Asha? And we're still asking that tonight, where is 91 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: nine year old Asia? And how oh could a dead 92 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: person hold the key to her disappearance? This as in 93 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: the last days more search warrants have been executed, and 94 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: we see an older model green sedan being towed away. 95 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: Now what is an older model Greeen sedan? 96 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 9: There? 97 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: It is have to do with Asia disappearing from her 98 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: own bed in the middle. 99 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: Of the night. Okay, I've got the cart way in 100 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: front of the horse. 101 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: So let's just start at the beginning, and I'm going 102 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: to do that with Donnie Peeler and Deale Champion, who've 103 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: been on this case the disappearance of Asia from day one. 104 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: Gentlemen, thank you for being with us. 105 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: I'll start with you, Donnie, tell me what you understand. 106 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: Happened in the morning that her family realized she's not here. 107 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: Where's Asha. Let's start right there. 108 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 10: Asha disappeared, her mom got up to give them little bath, 109 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 10: like le Bryant said, and she was gone. Was in 110 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 10: the house, Quilla. The mother was walking the neighborhood calling 111 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 10: for Asia, couldn't find her anywhere. That's when they called 112 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 10: the authorities come in and help the foundation. 113 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: Deal Champion joining us from Crackhouse Chronicles. How did you 114 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: guys get involved in the case to start with? 115 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 11: Well, that morning, actually going to work, we came down 116 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 11: by the area not knowing what was going on, and 117 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 11: got stopped in a roadblock and I thought it was 118 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 11: like a general license check or something, but actually they 119 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 11: were looking for the little girl. And that was really 120 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 11: a shock to me because it was that morning, nothing 121 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 11: going on. But later on we just kept wondering what 122 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 11: was going on, and then when we started this, this 123 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 11: is just our main, our main thing to find out 124 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 11: what's going on with her and do as much as 125 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 11: we could to figure out, you know, or just keep 126 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 11: it in the news, you know. 127 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: So you were actually Deal Champion partnered with Donnie peel 128 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: Or on the case Deal Champion, You were actually stopped 129 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: in a roadblock. 130 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 12: Yes, ma'am. 131 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 11: We were headed work. We had to be at work 132 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 11: at seven and so I would come through there. It's 133 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 11: probably a quarter two and uh. Yeah, the police were 134 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 11: stopping everybody coming down to the Highway eighteen right there 135 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 11: and checking the cars and asking if you had seen anything. 136 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 11: They were looking for a little girls. 137 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: So they told you why they pulled you over, right. 138 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 11: Dal Yeah, they were having a roadblock. They stopped everybody 139 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 11: it was coming down through there. 140 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, what would they say? What did they say to 141 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: you and they pulled you over? 142 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 11: Well, they just stopped because and I was trying to 143 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 11: dig to get my license out, and they go, no, 144 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 11: we don't need that. We've had a girl disappeared this morning. 145 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 11: And they were looking as they were talking to us, 146 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 11: you know, of course they're looking in the back seats 147 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 11: and stuff car. And they just said they wanted to 148 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 11: know if we had saw anything or you know, while 149 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 11: we were coming down the road on each side of 150 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 11: the road or why not. 151 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: In addition to Donnie Peeler and Deale Champion from Crackhouse Chronicles, 152 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: True Crime special guest, Mark Davis is with US former 153 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: sergeant supervisor and Patrol Division with Cleveland County Sheriffs. 154 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: The third officer on. 155 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: The scene, Mark Davis, thank you for making time for 156 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: us tonight. Mark Davis, tell me what you recollect from 157 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: the scene. 158 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 12: You know, I got to call early that morning the 159 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 12: parents said the child was missing. I sent two deputies 160 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 12: initially to respond to the house and began our investigation. 161 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 12: They called me shortly thereafter and said, you know, they 162 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 12: had searched the house physically and we couldn't find the child. 163 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 12: So I immediately started getting the resources on the ground 164 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 12: that I needed to search for the child. And within 165 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 12: an hour an hour and a half, I had over 166 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 12: one hundred people on the ground starting in search. 167 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: Mark Davis, what was your understanding as to have you 168 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: know the first thing we have to do the first thing, 169 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: and this is based on statistics. Has has nothing to 170 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: do with the nature or character of the family. You know, 171 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 2: doesn't matter if they are nuns and priests and virgins, 172 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: or if they grew up in a crack house. 173 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You look first at the family. 174 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: You look at them, you look at their stories, you 175 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: separate them, you get their stories. 176 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: Then you look at. 177 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: The stories you overlay to see if they all match 178 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: or if they generally match, because they're going to be 179 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: different in a few minor inconsequential ways. You look at 180 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: the scene, You look at the home, you look at 181 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: the bed, you look at the door. 182 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: Everything. You look to see if there's social media. 183 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: If the if the child has a phone, or if 184 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: they have social media, All of that matters. Do they 185 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: take a bag or is the window open, is the 186 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: window cracked? Has there been a forced entry? All of 187 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: that place into your deduction. So tell me what was observed. 188 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: I want to hear first about the demeanor of the family. 189 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 12: The family, the mother and father was as what you 190 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 12: would expect having a nine year old child missing. The 191 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 12: mother was, you know, highly upset, you know, making phone calls, 192 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 12: talking to neighbors, talking to people that lived around them, 193 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 12: and family members involved getting everything going for us. They 194 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 12: were very cool, co operative with law enforcement. The father 195 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 12: you could tell her he had his own deep concerns 196 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 12: about his daughter being missing. The household was I lived 197 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 12: in household, but a clean household. I wouldn't mind sitting 198 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 12: down in the house and having a meal. It was 199 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 12: what you would expect for our house with two children. 200 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 12: The parents cooperated with us fully that morning, which you know, 201 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 12: but as you say, we always have things that we 202 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 12: have to question, and we began questioning those parents, and 203 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 12: you know you always look at the family first. But 204 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 12: every time that we questioned everything that we went into 205 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 12: that morning, the parents were cooperative. The parents were compliant, 206 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 12: They assisted us every way they could. They wanted to 207 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 12: find their little girl. 208 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 2: Well, it tells me a lot straight out to Renow psychologist, 209 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: TV radio trauma expert Karen Start, you can find her 210 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: at Karen'star Karen with the Sea by the way. If 211 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: you're looking for her, Karen Stark, as you and I 212 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: both know you look at the family first, then you 213 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: go out. 214 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: You look at then the aunties, then the uncles, and. 215 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: The cousins, and the grown cousins, then the neighbors, then 216 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: the teachers. 217 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: That's how it works. 218 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: If you want to find this child alive, that's where 219 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: you start, whether anybody likes it or not. But in 220 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: every case where I've seen a child missing, you don't 221 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: see mommy running up and down the street, banging on 222 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: doors herself trying to find the child along with the dad, 223 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: completely cooperative. That normally doesn't happen when we later find 224 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: out the parents are responsible. 225 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: So just at first blush, that tells me a lot. 226 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 6: Karen Stark, Well, it tells you that our usual suspects, 227 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 6: the people that would be closest to her, where everyone 228 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 6: would look, they're not going to be the people that 229 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 6: need to be found. They are the people that actually 230 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 6: are concerned about what happened. They don't have answers. So 231 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 6: it's really clear that we have to look someplace else 232 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 6: because where is Asia. Nobody in the family has done anything, 233 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 6: and she just disappeared in the middle of the night. 234 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: This little girl seemingly disappears in the middle of the night. 235 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: And let me understand something. Markin Davis, former sergeant supervisor 236 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: in the Patrol Division, third officer on the scene, has 237 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: one hundred guys on the ground within I would say 238 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: an hour after this child is reported missing. 239 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: He observed the parents. 240 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: He observed their emotions near hysterical, the mom looking for her, 241 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: and the father's deep concern the home was not awry. 242 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: Their stories matched. 243 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: Tell me something, Mark Davis, When you have all the 244 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: guys looking for her, what exactly were they doing? Now 245 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: we know what times you went to bed, and what 246 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 2: time do the guys start their foot searches. 247 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 12: Within a half hour of me being there, I had 248 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 12: a one of our canine officers on the scene began 249 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 12: to search with our canines. You know, we're doing you know, 250 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 12: like you heard from Donnie and them. We're stopping cars 251 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 12: on the main highway next to it. We're doing everything 252 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 12: that we can to find this little girl. You know, 253 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 12: the early hours are the most precious time, so we 254 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 12: were frantically working. You know, we have a emergency services 255 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 12: in our county that works with us closely. I had 256 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 12: them get fire department rescue on the way with the 257 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 12: search teams things like that, to have those people on 258 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 12: the ground to help us. So, you know, we were 259 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 12: cording it off the area. We were moving the search 260 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 12: and zones out as you know, the limits as far 261 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 12: as at least within a mile to start with, you know, 262 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 12: the first mile of that area to you know, start 263 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 12: you know, ground searchers for asia degree. You know, we 264 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 12: we still didn't know our canine hit hit on a track, 265 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 12: it went a direction and after a short while it 266 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 12: lost the track. And but you know, I was trying 267 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 12: to get all of my resources in place to search 268 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 12: for her within that neighborhood. 269 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: Joining me Rick Schaefer, former FBI Supervisory Special Agent Rick Schaefer. Normally, 270 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: when a child goes missing, you hear me screaming about 271 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: why didn't they issue an ambrelord? 272 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: Why didn't they do this? That, this the other thing. 273 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: I'm on them, you know, like a cheap suit. But 274 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: Rick Schaeffer, I can't go there today. I can't rage 275 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: at what was done wrong because everything Mark Davis is 276 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: saying it happened. They got the canines out, they got 277 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: one hundred guys going door to door doing grid searches. Immediately, 278 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: he had guys out there pulling over cars, as you 279 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: heard deal Champion saying, at six o'clock in the morning, 280 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: six point thirty, trying. 281 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: To find Asia. 282 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: I can't think at this juncture in the search of 283 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: anything else they could have done. 284 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: They were doing it all. 285 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 13: That's correct they did. 286 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: It was commendable. 287 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 13: When we arrived there, the police department, the Sheriff's department 288 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,359 Speaker 13: had literally cultivated an army of not only law enforcement, 289 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 13: but neighbors and citizens that were searching areas, knocking on doors. 290 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 13: It was a remarkable response in a very short period 291 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 13: of time. When I talked to Sheriff Crawford at the time, 292 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 13: he asked if we could provide any resources to help, 293 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 13: and absolutely we said we would give him whatever we needed. 294 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 13: We sent evidence response teams down there to help look 295 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 13: inside the home. We had agents on the seat with 296 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 13: the Sheriff's Department to help them conduct any interviews, searches. 297 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 13: We provided every resource we could because it was unimaginable 298 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 13: that this beautiful little nine year old girl ventured out 299 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 13: of her house in the wee hours of the morning 300 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 13: in a very difficult environment. It was cold and raining 301 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 13: in February, and it was just unimaginable that she voluntarily 302 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 13: left that house and took the risk by herself at 303 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 13: nine years old to just venture out. 304 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: A devoted father checks on his two children before going 305 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: to sleep. By the morning, his daughter is gone. 306 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: Joining us an All Star Panels trade bakeout to Dale Champion, 307 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: Donnie Peel or Dale Champion. 308 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: Is this real? 309 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: Because I'm hearing not just one witness, but multiple witnesses, 310 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: more than one witness not connected to each other, state 311 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: they see a girl matching Asia's description walking along Highway eighteen? 312 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Is this true? Dale Champion? 313 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 11: As far as we know it is true. There was 314 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 11: a guy, his name was Jeff Ruth. He was a 315 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 11: driver for Sundrop Incorporated, or Choice Drinks, and he said 316 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 11: that he did see her and actually had turned his 317 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 11: vehicle around, not once but twice to come back and 318 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 11: actually see her. And there was a lawyer who's doing 319 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 11: some stuff on this, and he said he's actually talked 320 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 11: to Jeff and he the guy is one percent sure 321 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 11: that he saw and even there was a moment where 322 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 11: they locked eyes and this guy can't get it out 323 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 11: of his head and. 324 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 12: He knows it was her. 325 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: Okay, you know what to Donnie Peeler, when you have 326 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 2: more than one witness say the same thing, or Donnie Peeler, 327 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've learned on crackhouse chronicles. When a witness 328 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: has a level of detail, a story that is rich 329 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: in detail. For instance, that he actually locked eyes with 330 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: the girl. That's a detail you don't usually hear from 331 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: a liar. I mean you can, but details like that, 332 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 2: details like I've never been able to get it out 333 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 2: of my mind. Details like I turned back around and 334 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: looked at her. I'm sure it was her. Those are 335 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: details that enhance the credibility of the witness. And Donnie Peeler, 336 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: I'm understanding more than one witness saw her. Is that 337 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: correct to your understanding? 338 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 10: Oh? Absolutely, Nancy. There was another drug driver as a 339 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 10: father and son due of boy Blanton and Boyl, they 340 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 10: claimed that they had spotted it. A boyd Blator is 341 00:18:55,160 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 10: actually a former County Debbie. I would say he's the 342 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 10: credible what he saw that morning. 343 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: To Kathleen Murphy joining us now special guest out of 344 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: North Carolina Attorney Triangle, divorce lawyers who seen many, many 345 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: many custody disputes, custody kidnaps, children going missing. I don't 346 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: get any sense that the parents had anything at all 347 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: to do with this disappearance, based on many, many different 348 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 2: pieces of evidence, specifically and most thoroughly convincing more than 349 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: one eyewitness. 350 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: Stating they saw her on Highway eighteen that morning. 351 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 14: Well, one of the indicators is is this child been 352 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 14: kidnapped by one parent or another, and when the parents 353 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 14: are in separate homes, that increases the likelihood of that occurring. 354 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 14: That was not the case with these two parents. They 355 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 14: were in a dual family home, they had credibility when 356 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 14: they were answering the specific question separately, and so there's 357 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 14: absolutely no credible evidence that, in fact evidence to the 358 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 14: co trade that they were involved with her walking down 359 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 14: the road on eighteen and being seen by multiple witnesses. 360 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 1: Now, listen to what we learned about this witness. 361 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 15: There was a gentleman there that said he was on 362 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 15: his way to work that morning and he sees Asha 363 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 15: walking down the side of the road. He's sort of 364 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 15: in disbelief. You know, what's that small child doing on 365 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 15: the road this time in the morning. So he turned 366 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 15: around and proceeded back up eighteen at the slower pace 367 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 15: he came up, and you know, seeing the little girl 368 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 15: still walking south on eighteen and Rody's window down and 369 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 15: then said, hey, do you need help? And when you did, 370 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 15: she began to move down off the road. She didn't 371 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 15: really run, but she wouldn't letting grass grow under her 372 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 15: feet either. 373 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: You are hearing more elaboration by sergeants supervisor that morning, 374 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: Mark Davis as he's speaking on Craickhouse Chronicles. And you know, 375 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: Mark Davis, the way you put it right there, I 376 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: find it really interesting because when you first told me 377 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: that truck driver turned around, I wondered, well, what happened 378 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: when he turned around? Because if I were a little 379 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: girl on side of the road and somebody I didn't 380 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: know turned around and came back towards me, I'd take 381 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 2: off running. 382 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: And that sounds like what Asha. 383 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 12: Did pretty much. Yeah. I mean, you know, when he 384 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 12: approached her, she became suspicious, cautious and moved down off 385 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 12: the side of the road. 386 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I'm thinking about, Donnie Peeler and 387 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: Dale Champion. 388 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: You know, she was a. 389 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: Great little fireball on the basketball court, very shy at 390 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: school and outside of the home. Not shy at home, 391 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: but anywhere outside the home. Extremely shy, but an incredible 392 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 2: basketball player. I wonder if she was lured by somebody 393 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: saying they could make her a basketball star, a phenom, 394 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: but she couldn't tell her parents or they wouldn't let 395 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: her go. I'm just looking at every angle I can 396 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: imagine Dale Champion. 397 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's the big question, Nancy. Why was she outside 398 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 11: the house to begin with for all this to happen? 399 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 11: And that's that's the thing we can't we can't get 400 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 11: a grasp on It's hard for us to wrap a 401 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 11: brain around something. Why would she be outside in the 402 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 11: first place? And we've looked at so many angles and 403 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 11: we still can't make sense of it. 404 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 2: So to you, Rick Schaeffer joining US former FBI special agent, 405 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: I know the FBI is now involved and as a 406 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: matter of fact, has recently executed search warrants. They made 407 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: it very clear, it was made clear, if there was a spokesperson, 408 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: that no human remains were found. But we've been told 409 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: that there is direct evidence linking the disappearance of Asia 410 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: Degree to the location at which they executed the search warrant. 411 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to figure out who knew this 412 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: child well enough to lure her from the home. She 413 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: didn't tell her brother, which is very surprising. She told nobody, 414 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 2: and then when a stranger came to pick her up, 415 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 2: came back towards her, she ran. So it's not like 416 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: she was trying to hitch a ride and get away 417 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: from home. She was going to meet somebody. If it 418 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: were just an issue of her running away, then she 419 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: would have hitched your ride. 420 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 13: That's correct, And we looked at it from a number 421 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 13: of different perspectives. I mean, when we first got there, 422 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 13: obviously we wanted to take a look at the family. 423 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 13: As you suggested, we did a very thorough search of 424 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 13: the house. We found no indication of anything that looked 425 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 13: like substance abuse or problems inside the home. The parents 426 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 13: acted accordingly. They were very upset. The mother was particularly 427 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 13: distraught as she had run through the neighborhood trying to 428 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 13: locate her daughter. We interviewed the son, I think he 429 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 13: was ten years old at the time, but you know, 430 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 13: obviously in the presence of a parent, to try and 431 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 13: see if we could garner any additional information. But he 432 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 13: indicated that he saw her as she went up to 433 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 13: go to the bathroom and then went back to sleep. 434 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 13: We were obviously perplexed over the fact that you have 435 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 13: this beautiful little girl at nine years old? What would 436 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 13: cause her to leave the house not in the middle 437 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 13: of the day, but in the middle of the night 438 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 13: and take off walking down the street. 439 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 3: A worried family frantically searches for their missing little girl, 440 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: who they last saw safe and sound sleeping in her room. 441 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 2: What does a late model green sedan have to do 442 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: with Asia's disappearance? 443 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: And what did candy rappers have to do with her disappearance? 444 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 10: Listen it was a couple days later candy wrappers were 445 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 10: found in a shad behind turn her upholstery, candy rappers, 446 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 10: a pencil marker. 447 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 11: And even a Mickey Mouse hairbow. 448 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 7: It was hers. 449 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 10: Students at False Familiminary school confirmed that those were the 450 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 10: same type of candy that were given out as Valentine. 451 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: Treats to the rest of the class. So those were 452 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: confirmed as her items were they? 453 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: Was it her Mickey Mouse a paraphernalia? Were those her 454 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: candy wrappers? Why was she and the shed eating candy 455 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: or was that just thrown in the shed? Later with 456 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: me an all Star panel, but first out to Donnie 457 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: Peeler and deal Champion what about it, Donnie Peeler, that stuff. 458 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 10: Found in that shed, Nancy, it could possibly be her stuff. 459 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 10: The kids at the school identified it possibly being stuff 460 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 10: that given them at school. But from my understanding too 461 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 10: that those sheds were right there at that upholstery stop too, 462 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 10: and some of that stuff could have fell out of 463 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 10: furniture there. That was always back in my mind. You know, 464 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 10: it's just crazy thing that she would be that far 465 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 10: off the road. 466 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: Another saying, Donnie Peeler could easily have been other children 467 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: playing in that shed after school. 468 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that. We don't have a 469 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: DNA match. 470 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: We don't know how to link that back to her, 471 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: and I wonder where that shed is in relation to 472 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: where she was spotted on the road. Another question to you, 473 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: let me go to you, Donnie Dell Champion. Is it 474 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: true that, according to a report, I found Asha had 475 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 2: money and a wallet at school before she disappeared. 476 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 11: I do know that SHD is a couple hundred yards 477 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 11: off the road. It's not real close. 478 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 10: You can't even say it from the road hardly, Okay. 479 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 2: Straight out to Karen Stark joining us who has been 480 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: researching and studying the case. 481 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: Karen stark. 482 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 2: I'm almost convinced that she packed a few things in 483 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: that backpack. 484 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: What do we know. 485 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 6: She packed some of her favorite outfits. And if you 486 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 6: think about this, Nancy, it's pouring outside. This is a 487 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 6: shy little girl, very obedient. She does not put on 488 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 6: a rain coat protect herself from the rain. She packed 489 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 6: some of her favorite outfits, but nothing that will keep 490 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 6: her warm or sustain her. And then she walks out 491 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 6: in the rain. Totally uncharacteristic for this nine year old. 492 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 16: A complete mystery, completely and I've been looking for any 493 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 16: upheaval in her life or any signs that she was upset. 494 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 16: This is the only thing I found. Listen to her brother. 495 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 4: Only thing that she was even upset about at the 496 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: time that we knew was that she had lost her 497 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 4: championship basketball game. The championship games was that weekend. That Saturday. 498 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 4: She was one of the star players on her team. 499 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 4: Her team was in a dog fight of a game 500 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 4: and she ended up filing out, and she felt that 501 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 4: she let her teammates down. But by the time my 502 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: game started, which was like an hour or maybe a 503 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 4: hour or two hours later, like she had that genuine 504 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: smiled as she always wore. 505 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 2: So I'm trying to figure out Kathleen Murphy joining us 506 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 2: a high profile lawyer out of North Carolina triangle divorce. 507 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 2: What would that have to do, if anything, with her 508 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: getting a few of her favorite outfits and leaving in 509 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: the middle of the night, not telling the brother that 510 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 2: we just saw O'Brien, not telling her parents. 511 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: What could have lured her out? Was it in connection 512 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: to her basketball career? 513 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,239 Speaker 2: Did someone tell this nine year old little girl they 514 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: could make her a basketball star. 515 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 14: I don't know the identity of the person in the 516 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 14: search warrant, and so once you know the identity of 517 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 14: the person in the search warrant, you may be able 518 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 14: to tie it to some connection with Asha. It could 519 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 14: be a connection with basketball, like you said. But I 520 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 14: have a seven year old grandson. He would never go 521 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 14: out in the ring. He would never go out in 522 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 14: the middle of the night, that seven to nine year 523 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 14: old age. It's very concerning why she would actually put 524 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 14: herself in the middle of nighttime rainstorms without any protection. 525 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. 526 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 9: They were making an access road right here, there's a 527 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 9: log cabin up on the hill and they were cutting 528 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 9: this access road going to that cabin and that's where 529 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 9: they found her book bag back in there. 530 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 17: More than a year later, pacious backpack turned up into 531 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 17: construction site thirty miles away. It raised new questions but 532 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 17: yielded few clues about the missing girls whereabouts. 533 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: A search was done in that area, same type of situation. 534 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 13: People were interviewed, evidence was collected and sent all and 535 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 13: until this day a she's still not been located. 536 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 2: We're getting that information from the FBI. Mark Davis with 537 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: a sergeant supervisor on the case at the time, Well, 538 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: can you tell me about the location of the book 539 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: bag and are we sure it's acious? 540 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 12: Yes, I know, it's been confirmed it was Asia's book bag. 541 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 12: They released some of the items and told to some 542 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 12: of the items once again, this is almost a year 543 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 12: into the investigation before they released what was some of 544 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 12: the items into the book bag, but it was confirmed 545 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 12: it was hers and it was north of where she 546 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 12: lived on High eighteen, approximately twenty to thirty miles away 547 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 12: good Gravy. 548 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: So somebody had to take her or her book bag 549 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: by vehicle by vehicle, and that's where the green sedan 550 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: may come in. 551 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: Listen. 552 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 17: Investigators published images of a car that may have picked 553 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 17: up a show. They believe it was a nineteen seventies 554 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 17: model Lincoln Continental Mark four or a Ford Thunderbird with 555 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 17: rust around the wheel. Wells investigators revealed two items found 556 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 17: anacious book bag, a Doctor SEUs children's book from her 557 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 17: school library Mcgelligan's pool and a new Kid's on the 558 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 17: Block concert T shirt which didn't belong to Asia. 559 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a mind twister right there, Mark Davis. So 560 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: a school book at Doctor Seuss book from her school 561 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: from her school library, and a T shirt that did 562 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: not belong to her. 563 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: What do you make of it? Mark Davis? 564 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 12: It's one of those situations that you know, we couldn't 565 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 12: decipher it either. You know, you know, while I was 566 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 12: it there, there was a lot of things. There were 567 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 12: a lot of questions. This is far past the point 568 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 12: that I was in an investigation, involved in the investigation, 569 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 12: but you know, there was speculation on all of us 570 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 12: as far for as officers went. You know, what did 571 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 12: it mean? And as far as I know, that's never 572 00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 12: really been answered. 573 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: Somebody gave her the T shirt because Rick Schaeffer joining 574 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: US former FBI special agent. If someone is luring her, 575 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: then I could understand somebody giving her a T shirt 576 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: that her parents don't even know about. 577 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 13: Well, that's correct. In fact, one of the things that 578 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 13: we looked at was through the Probation Parole office is 579 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 13: the current sexual offenders registry. It wasn't digitized in electronic 580 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 13: format it is now, but when we were provided it, 581 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 13: we started a pin map and we were shocked at 582 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 13: the number of people within a close proximity to Asia's 583 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 13: home that had been involved in being considered an individual 584 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 13: placed on the sexual offenders registry. And as a result 585 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 13: of that, we conducted numerous interviews with people that had 586 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 13: been convicted and had either relocated or currently living in 587 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 13: the Cleveland County area. 588 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: And back to the search. 589 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: In the last days, a search has gone down directly 590 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: connected to Asha's disappearance listen. 591 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 5: The Cleveland County Sheriff's Office has now confirmed that a 592 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 5: search of six to twenty one Cherryville Road is connected 593 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 5: to asia degree. Nearly fifty investigators with the Cleveland County Sheriffs, 594 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 5: the FBI Evidence Response Team, and North Carolina SBI agents 595 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 5: spend two days at the property with canines and multiple 596 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 5: items of interest or sees for testing. Investigators have not 597 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 5: revealed what those items are, but have said the search 598 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 5: warrants were obtained based on physical evidence directly connected to 599 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 5: Asha's disappearance and the green sedan. 600 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 18: Listen on the second day of the search at a 601 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 18: home on Cherryville Road, four miles from Asia degrees, home, 602 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 18: investigators moved to a second location, a home on the 603 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 18: corner of Cherryville and Rollingwood Drive. Agents are seen going 604 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 18: into the home and walking in and out of a 605 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 18: fenced area behind the home. Minutes later, a flatbed tow 606 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 18: truck arrives to the property. When it leaves, it's carrying 607 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 18: a green four door sedan with rust in the wheel 608 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 18: wells extreme similar to the car the FBI has been 609 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 18: looking for. 610 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: Dale Champion, joining us from crack House Chronicles along with 611 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 2: partner Donnie peel Or. Dale Champion tell me about this 612 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 2: recent FBI search and the vehicle. 613 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 11: Yeah, they came in I think it was Tuesday, and 614 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 11: they just fawned this place, come in and rumors were 615 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 11: find what was going on, and it was coming out 616 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 11: saying that it was about Asia. So everybody's just got 617 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 11: more hyped up. And then it kind of switched or 618 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 11: the rumors were saying other things. So we didn't know. 619 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 11: Then they put out the press release saying it was 620 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 11: definitely connected to Asia, and then they pulled this green 621 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 11: car out and after that everything got really tight. Lift 622 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 11: I think they put the gag on anybody around that 623 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 11: had anything to do with So it's been very quiet 624 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 11: ever since then. But I think they're supposed to release 625 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 11: the Daffi Davids on these search warrants this week, possibly today. 626 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 2: Joining us now Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Sydney Center, Sydney, 627 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 2: we now learn that there are updates in the case. 628 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 2: As we go to air, I'm learning about a search warrant. 629 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: What can you tell me, Nancy? 630 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 19: Yes, So we got hundreds of pages of documents relating 631 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 19: to eight search warrants tied to Asia degrees disappearance. Investigators 632 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 19: have released both the probable cause applications, the probable cause 633 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 19: applications for these search warrants and the returns. So we 634 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 19: now know that they are searching properties tied to Roy 635 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 19: and Connie Deadman, which seemingly have no connection to Ashia's disappearance. 636 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 19: So how they tied the Deadman's to Asia was her 637 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 19: backpack located about six miles south of Morganton, North Carolina. 638 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 19: This is nearly thirty miles away from Asia's home. That 639 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 19: backpack discovered a year. 640 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 2: Hold on sid you're talking about deadman's home, and isn't 641 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 2: that less than four miles from where Asia was last seen? 642 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 19: That is correct, Nancy, So their home, the property is 643 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 19: to properties that were searched. The dead Men's owned a 644 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 19: nursing home facility in Vale, North Carolina, and frequently took 645 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 19: patients up to Broughton Hospital in Morganton. So they frequently 646 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 19: traveled along Highway eighteen, passing Asia's home, passing. 647 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: Let me understand what you're saying said. 648 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: You're saying that the deadmans owned a nursing home and 649 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: they would take patients back and forth up Highway eighteen, 650 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: which is where a Sha was last seen walking right. 651 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 19: Correct, correct, and where her backpack was found just six 652 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 19: miles south of Morganton. So the real connection is that backpack. 653 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 19: That backpack was found under deep grass. Grass had grown 654 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 19: over it and appeared to have been there for a 655 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 19: very long time, and it was wrapped in two plastic trashjacks. 656 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: But what investigators have joseus be good. 657 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 2: Why would you wrap a kid's backpack and trash bags, 658 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 2: two of them. 659 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 19: Right, it seems like it was definitely a disposal of evidence. 660 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 19: They did not want to be caught with Asha's belongings. 661 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 19: So what investigators found in those trash bags were two hairs. 662 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 19: One of those hairs belonged to one of the dead 663 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 19: men's daughters. She was thirteen at the time. The other 664 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 19: hair belonged to a patient under the dead men's care. 665 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so these hairs connect back to the dead men's 666 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: and they're on Asia's backpack. 667 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: I understand that. 668 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 2: Also, a neighbor said three rooms at the deadmon property 669 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: were padlocked. They were full of dead men's personal property. 670 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: I understand police have also sees cameras, journals, a trash bag, 671 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: children's clothing, and a rifle from the dead man home. 672 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 1: Is that true? 673 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 19: Yes, it's absolutely correct. And those journals were actually penned 674 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 19: by the dead men's daughters. So they had three daughters. 675 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: At the time. 676 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 19: The youngest, Annie was thirteen, and they had two other daughters, 677 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 19: Sarah and Lizzie, both sixteen years old at the time 678 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 19: of acious disappearance. 679 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 2: That's where we're getting the word that a dead person 680 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 2: may have the key to unlock the disappearance of Asia exactly. 681 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 19: That is referring to Russell Underhill, that patient underneath the 682 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 19: dead Men's care. So at the time Underhill did not 683 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 19: actually reside in the dead Men's Vale, North Carolina rest home, 684 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 19: but Connie Deadman did attend to him at the rest 685 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 19: home he was at, and Roy Deadman was listed as 686 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 19: his emergency contact. So it's kind of an odd connection. 687 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 19: But the only connection between the dead Men's daughter, thirteen 688 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 19: year old ann Aalie, and Russell Underhill is Roy and 689 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 19: Connie Deadman, and they now are officially listed as suspects 690 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 19: in Asia's case. 691 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: They are denying any wrongdoing it all, of. 692 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: Course, as does the lawyer for the dead patients. So 693 00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: let me just consolidate this her back Asia's backpack is 694 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: found double wrapped in trash bags and dance undergrowth grown 695 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 2: over with foliage in it. There is the hair that 696 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 2: links back directly by DNA comparison to the dead Man's 697 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 2: daughter and to one of the dead Men's patients and 698 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 2: their nursing home who is now dead. Do I have 699 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 2: it exactly? 700 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a bombshell, Sydney. 701 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 19: Absolutely, Nancy, And it's unclear exactly where investigators are going 702 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 19: with this. The Deadmen's have given multiple numerous statements to 703 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 19: police and they've even passed polygraph tests, so it's very 704 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 19: unclear what the connection is. But that Green nineteen seventies 705 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 19: is sure that the FBI was looking for was towed 706 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 19: from the dead Men's home, and this was a nineteen 707 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 19: sixty four. 708 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: There was Franky Sydney. 709 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: Other items receives, including a human tooth, yes, a. 710 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 19: Plastic bag, and lots of explanations for that. That could 711 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 19: have been the first lost baby tooth. They have three daughters, 712 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 19: so there are lots of plausible explanations for that. But 713 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 19: could it be tied to Asia. 714 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 2: I just hate, hate what the parents have been going through. 715 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 2: There is a forty five thousand dollars reward in connection 716 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: with the location of nine year old Asia degree tip 717 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 2: line seven. 718 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 1: Zero four four eight four four. 719 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,919 Speaker 2: Eight two two repeat seven zero four four eight four 720 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: four eight two two. 721 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: We wait as just as unfalse. Goodbye friend,