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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: On eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: It's Ohio State and Notre Dame meeting in college football's

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Speaker 2: National championship game here in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: From the start of this thing, you know, we've been

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Speaker 3: knocking on the door, and I hope they're all proud

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Speaker 3: of what we've done.

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Speaker 2: Howard gets the step, takes the hand off, sets up

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Speaker 2: to throw screens at out the right side, and Jeremiah

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Speaker 2: Smith with it to the five and helped dance into

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Speaker 2: the end zone for an Ohio State touchdown. Jeremiah Smith

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Speaker 2: from eight yards out. He gets what ends up being

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Speaker 2: his fifth touchdown of the playoffs, and the Buckeyes are

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Speaker 2: a pah away from tying this game.

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Speaker 4: What it means Amen, that they have a lot of

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Speaker 4: trust to me to be able to make a play

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Speaker 4: Anton uh Me and my Cord. They put a lot

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Speaker 4: of trust to me just this season.

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Speaker 5: I'm just happy to be a buck up, that's all

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Speaker 5: I said.

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Speaker 2: Judkins the gift going left side off one defender Jutkins

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Speaker 2: to the five. Judkins to the goal line and into

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Speaker 2: the end zone for a touchdown when John Jutkins bouncing

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Speaker 2: off of defenders nine yard TD run when Sean Jutkins

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Speaker 2: is a point where.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of people that counted us out and

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Speaker 6: we just kept swinging and kept fighting. That's the reason

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Speaker 6: why you get into coaching is the sea Guys overcome things,

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Speaker 6: learn life lessons, and then reach their dreams.

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Speaker 5: This is what happened tonight.

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Speaker 7: Howard looking across the middle and has.

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Speaker 3: Space, takes up touchdown sneaking open Quis Quinn. Sean Judkins

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Speaker 3: in Ohio State stretches the league with a third long

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Speaker 3: touchdown drive tonight.

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Speaker 8: I don't have words many They've changed my life in

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Speaker 8: more ways than I can than I can say, man,

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Speaker 8: and I can't believe God gave me the chance to

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Speaker 8: be a Buckeye.

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Speaker 5: There's nothing like it. Howard under center, hands to Jutkins

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Speaker 5: straight away.

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Speaker 2: It goes Juckkins and into the end zone for another touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Quinn John Judkins a one yard jump to the end zone.

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Speaker 8: Man, they were they were running man coverage and uh

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Speaker 8: I said, Hey, I'm gonna go let this thing loose

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Speaker 8: for number four and let him make a play on it.

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Speaker 8: Man and uh, I was unbelievable play. Unbelievable play call man.

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Speaker 8: It took some nuts to call that.

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Speaker 5: So that was I was it? A fitting went ended?

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Speaker 5: Have you pressure?

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Speaker 3: Howard delivers downfield?

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Speaker 5: N Smith, Hey's got it.

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith hadn't had a touch in the second half

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Speaker 3: until that potential game clincher first out at the ten,

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Speaker 3: the longest toughest postseason climb.

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Speaker 5: In the history of the sport. And after all that, it's.

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Speaker 3: Ohio State together at the mountaintop, champions of college football.

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Speaker 9: It is my honor to present to you the twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty five to Football National Tip Biscos Ryan Day.

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Speaker 5: Where is day?

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Speaker 1: Fucking you are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 4: Oh, let's do it live on a national championship victory

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Speaker 4: Tuesday edition of Cleveland Browns Daily. Merely Bo college football.

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Speaker 5: Nate is here.

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Speaker 4: It is appropriate. The Buckeyes national champions of the college

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Speaker 4: football world again. Second time, it's a decade in between.

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Speaker 4: The third time. In the last twenty five years, only

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Speaker 4: Alabama has won more. Ohio State joins LSU as teams

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Speaker 4: of three national titles last twenty five years.

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Speaker 7: Pret Day, pre Day, prett Day, good and college football.

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Speaker 7: Nate had it, I mean.

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Speaker 4: Had it nailed it.

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Speaker 7: It was pretty easy. It was pretty easy to see

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Speaker 7: this was gonna be a historic run. The season could

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Speaker 7: have ended in the most spectacularly unsatisfying fashion in the

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Speaker 7: history of Ohio State football, and instead it ends in

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Speaker 7: one of the most memorable and spectacular fashions. Is the

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Speaker 7: national champions having run through Tennessee, Oregon, Texas, and Notre

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Speaker 7: Dame en route to this title, all of them relatively comfortable, comfortable, comfortable, comfortable,

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Speaker 7: to be honest with you. Texas was the tensest of

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Speaker 7: the three. But are four. It's they Timing is everything,

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Speaker 7: perfect time to have that hiccup, get a little bit

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Speaker 7: of a wake up call because now it's a twelve

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Speaker 7: team playoff and here you go, and now you're the

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Speaker 7: national Championships and champions. They were the best team. It

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Speaker 7: would have been in many ways as shame had they

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Speaker 7: not even gotten into the final four. Would have been

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Speaker 7: a catastrophe if it was just a final four playoff

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Speaker 7: this year, a catastrophe because they they're really good and

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Speaker 7: the only thing that stops them honestly is themselves, just

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Speaker 7: like they did against Michigan in the second half this game,

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Speaker 7: he gets super conservative and little. It's like, just do

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Speaker 7: what you're gonna do. You're gonna smoke people. Very easy.

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Speaker 7: Great win for them. Good for Ryan Day to be

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Speaker 7: able to have that, to have the opera tunity for

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Speaker 7: that redemption. I think we're entering in. This solidifies that

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Speaker 7: this is a completely new era of college football where

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Speaker 7: the regular season is important, but it is not the

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Speaker 7: end all be all it used to be. You couldn't

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Speaker 7: have one. Sometimes you can have one loss. Now you

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Speaker 7: can have two, and one can be horrific, and it

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Speaker 7: doesn't matter if you're the right kind of program, in

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Speaker 7: the right type of conference and playing the right kind

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Speaker 7: of way. The majority of the season, it was awesome.

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Speaker 7: They were dominant. I mean, jeremih Smith is incredible. Judkins

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Speaker 7: was great in this game, score and three times. Howard

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Speaker 7: looks very solid to me and certainly looks like somebody

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Speaker 7: who could operate an NFL offense with pretty good ease.

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Speaker 7: Better athlete than you know you might think in terms

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Speaker 5: It was easy. I like it.

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Speaker 7: I like it. Congrats to them, Congrats to asses ride

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Speaker 7: and high. I mean the only thing they tried to

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Speaker 7: derail them was the lady driving the cart was trying

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Speaker 7: to awesome powers right now.

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Speaker 4: Wall, Yeah, you gotta have trained you had a turning

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Speaker 4: radius is important.

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Speaker 7: But this game number one should have been played on

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Speaker 7: a Friday instead of Monday. We've said that ad nauseum.

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Speaker 7: It couldn't be more true. And while you could have

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Speaker 7: checked out from when it was twenty eight to seven, right,

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Speaker 7: wasn't twenty eight seven?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could have.

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Speaker 7: Checked out from there and then come back when it

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Speaker 7: absurd that it even got to that point. You watch

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Speaker 7: the Jeremiah Smith better than you could have checked right out. Again,

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Speaker 7: the game was really never in doubt.

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Speaker 4: I O, I disagree. I think there were moments in

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Speaker 7: Well that's why when he had to come back, even

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Speaker 7: when Freeman kicked the field goal, which was pretty inexplicable

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Speaker 7: in that moment to kick a field goal, because anytime

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Speaker 5: To do it.

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Speaker 4: So like the fact that he did that, My Hunches.

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Speaker 4: He had the fake on and then the way that

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Speaker 4: Ohio State had it schemed, they just kicked it because

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Speaker 4: HEISTI didn't even attempt to block it. They just stood up. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they just stood up because they thought a fake was coming.

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Speaker 4: So my Hunches he thought that was the case. And

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Speaker 4: then he said, well, it'll land with points anyway. We

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Speaker 4: still need to get two mores kind of the way

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Speaker 4: and then we can win it. We don't have to

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Speaker 4: get the two pointers. That's what's going through said, I'm

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Speaker 4: convinced a fake was called there. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: anybody would ever admitted or not. Here's the thing that

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Speaker 4: this Ohio State football team was afforded. It was afforded

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Speaker 4: a luxury. Previous Ohio State teams were not. Here's the

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Speaker 4: crazy thing about a highest ste history. Their best teams

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Speaker 4: don't win national titles. Yep, they don't. Their most talented

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Speaker 4: in two thousand and twenty that was kind of derailed

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Speaker 4: Alabama played a full schedule. The twenty fifteen team is

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Speaker 4: an absolute juggernaut talent wise, NFL Hall of famers all

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Speaker 4: lost to Michigan State at home. This team was afforded

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Speaker 4: inn and if that would have been the previous year,

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Speaker 4: the timing was right in fourteen. The timing was right

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Speaker 4: look at the final AP top five, they beat the

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Speaker 4: other four teams in the top five. In route to this.

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Speaker 4: They beat seven of the top ten teams in the

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Speaker 4: know that anyone's had to do anything like that. Well,

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Speaker 4: will not be unset. It's also just a real quick

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Speaker 7: Do you think that and because of nil and all

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Speaker 7: of that stuff, do you think that this was one

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Speaker 5: Ever?

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Speaker 4: No, I think the coach. I think what you're saying

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Speaker 4: is that because some of the talent has been spread

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Speaker 4: I think the middle has lifted, so I think so

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Speaker 4: I think what happened is is the road because there

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Speaker 4: were so many of them. No, you did not. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if they had to play another super team,

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Speaker 4: those might have been super teams on par there were

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Speaker 4: four teams I've said all year that were different talent.

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Speaker 4: It was Georgia, it was Ohio State, Texas, and Oregon.

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Speaker 4: They had to beat two of them in route to

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Speaker 4: I think that's the toughest road anyone's ever traveled to

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Speaker 4: win a national title, to beat those four teams in

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Speaker 4: order to do it. The other thing was going to

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Speaker 4: say is, you know, the thing about Ohio State football

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Speaker 4: is a warm blanket on the state. It's one hundred

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Speaker 4: and twenty five years of excellence. Right nine weeks out

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Speaker 4: that's the deal. And there's a great deal of responsibility

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Speaker 7: No, And it was and timing, as you said, is everything.

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Speaker 6: They talked to like he talked to his day's sun

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Speaker 4: It was so interesting when you think about I don't

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00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 4: think you'll ever see a team built like that. One

440
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 4: was built either in the sense of multiple fourth year

441
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 4: guys who could have gone to the league.

442
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Speaker 10: Not.

443
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 4: Portaling the right guys right like there. I didn't. I

444
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 4: knew who Will Howard was because I talked about college

445
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 4: football all the time, so I knew who he was.

446
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 4: At Kansas State, I knew he was primarily. I knew

447
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,120
Speaker 4: he's a runner. He's gonna give him a change of pace.

448
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,399
Speaker 4: I had no idea what his DNA was or what

449
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 4: made him tick. And there were other quarterbacks who were

450
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 4: in the portal who went to other places that said,

451
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 4: I'm going to the highest bidder period, and Ohio State said,

452
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 4: we don't necessarily need that. We need someone that fits

453
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Speaker 4: with a bunch of seniors, and they sought out Will

454
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Speaker 4: Howard and landed him. They kicked tires on Riley Leonard

455
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 4: and Dylan Gabriel too, but Howard was the one that

456
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 4: they really thought could could do this job. And his

457
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 4: personality fit with those seniors like a glove. I mean,

458
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 4: it was smooth the way that it all worked, and

459
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 4: he really grabbed the program by the throat. He did,

460
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 4: and he did that in the fall. He did it

461
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Speaker 4: in spring camp. They didn't annoyed him. They didn't name

462
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Speaker 4: him the starter until a couple of weeks in a

463
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Speaker 4: fall camp, and he just finished. He was a number

464
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Speaker 4: one quarterback in college football. In QBR, he just had

465
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Speaker 4: the twenty sixth best QBR season in the history of

466
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 4: the sport, just one spot behind Jalen Hurts in twenty nineteen.

467
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 4: His run through the postseason those four games he played,

468
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Speaker 4: I would put up against Ezekiel Elliott's run in twenty

469
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Speaker 4: fourteen mane Omber two hundred in every game. I think

470
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 4: it's forget quarterback. I think it's as good a stretch

471
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 4: of play a Buckeye players ever had. Right there with Zeke,

472
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 4: I think they walk hand in hand. He's brilliant and

473
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 4: they needed all of it from him, and he had

474
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Speaker 4: to run a little bit last night and nobody saw

475
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Speaker 4: that coming. And then the other part of it is

476
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Speaker 4: it's appropriate that that the last play, the clinching play,

477
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 4: is to Jeremiah Smith because when Ryan Day was doing

478
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Speaker 4: his press conference on National Signing Day and officially that

479
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 4: letter of intent faxed in because you have to physically

480
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 4: get it before it's official. When they physically got it,

481
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 4: he was live at his press conference, and when he

482
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 4: got it, he fell.

483
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Speaker 5: To his knees.

484
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 4: In the spring game, when they're doing it on Fox,

485
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 4: he's Joel Klatt's interview him, and Ryan says, watch this

486
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 4: before the play because he wanted to show off the

487
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 4: new toy and what Jeremiah was all about. They all

488
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Speaker 4: knew what he was what they all knew what he

489
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 4: was and for a kid that precocious at eighteen, and

490
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Speaker 4: then the synergy of him dappening up Maurice Clerett afterwards,

491
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Speaker 4: who Ryan has brought on to talk to the team

492
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 4: every Tuesday, like he talks with Ryan about how to

493
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Speaker 4: manage all of it. They have lunch every Tuesday, those

494
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Speaker 4: two interacting. Yeah, I mean, it was it was a lot.

495
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you'll see one like it.

496
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Speaker 7: It was awesome. It was awesome from the the depths

497
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Speaker 7: of Buckeye despair because that's what I would call after

498
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 7: that Michigan game close to think that you would be

499
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Speaker 7: the national champs. There were a lot of people not

500
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 7: college football nat are you obviously, but there are a

501
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 7: lot of people thought they were losing to Tennessee. A

502
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 7: lot of the national people predicted them to be a

503
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Speaker 7: first round exit and have that be it.

504
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought I didn't know what I mean, I

505
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 4: covered every day. I did not know what would happen

506
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 4: in the Tennessee game. They just needed to be themselves.

507
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 4: That's that's all they had to do. They hadn't done

508
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 4: it yet, and we kept waiting to see it. And

509
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 4: that's why I think the Tennessee game was so critical,

510
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 4: because I think that was the time that you said, oh, Okay,

511
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 4: that's who they are. That's what we'd all been waiting for.

512
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 4: Is that type of avalanche, like who can hang with you?

513
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 4: The reality is nobody. But I don't know if it

514
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 4: took that long for them to like completely trust Will

515
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 4: because he was great in the Organ game. He was

516
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 4: awesome in the first Orgon game and they just came

517
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Speaker 4: up a little short.

518
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Speaker 7: But yeah, that was so long ago too. That was

519
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 7: we were in Cincinnati right now.

520
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Speaker 5: Uh, the first Organ game. We were in Philly.

521
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Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, no, not the the you're talking the

522
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Speaker 7: road Tennessee game.

523
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Speaker 4: Tennessee game was December since first, December twenty first. Yeah,

524
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 4: a month ago.

525
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Speaker 7: It's a long time ago. Yeah, that was we still

526
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 7: had the Dolphins the game and the Ravens games to go.

527
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, it's yeah, I mean this is they have

528
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 4: to fix the calendar of it. They've got to get

529
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 4: it sorted out. They can't they cannot be playing college

530
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: football this late into the year. I mean they're gonna

531
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Speaker 4: have they got in like winter workouts start in like

532
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 4: two weeks, like there is no off season. There's there

533
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 4: is a grind to this, that is the NFL just

534
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 4: has no point of reference on from a coaching standpoint

535
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Speaker 4: in that if those guys get four or five days

536
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Speaker 4: off a year, that's a that's it. They have no

537
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 4: time to unplug.

538
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Speaker 7: Do you think just because you had hinted at it,

539
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 7: but now we know that the Bears have gone in

540
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Speaker 7: another direction, perhaps it is not only the Bears, Phaps,

541
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Speaker 7: the Jags would be appealing that you think that he's

542
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Speaker 7: thinking of going to the NFL and saying, all right,

543
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Speaker 7: I've done it, going out yeah high note.

544
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure he's taking calls.

545
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Speaker 7: Yeah, why wouldn't you.

546
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Speaker 4: Of course he would like his quality of life like

547
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 4: got he's done it. Here are the coaches that won

548
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 4: national titles at Ohio State. Let me tell you if

549
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 4: you've heard any of these guys. Paul Brown, what he Hayes,

550
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 4: Jim Trussell, Urban Meyer, Ryan Day, Yeah, that's it. That's

551
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 4: the list.

552
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty good. I've heard of all of them.

553
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I figured you would college fooble name. No,

554
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 4: so I think he'll I think you you hear all

555
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: of that stuff. I'm guessing that Marcus hears from a

556
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 4: lot of people. I would not be I know that

557
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 4: Marcus is decordinator. Al Golden is likely going to go

558
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 4: to Cincinnati. That's something that's been happening kind of in

559
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Speaker 4: the in the.

560
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 7: Works the world where let's say Ryan Day takes the

561
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Speaker 7: Jags job. Yeah, that Marcus Freeman goes to Ohio State.

562
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Speaker 4: Is that, well, anything's possible. What I would say, like

563
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 4: if if we're this is just this isn't scores, It's

564
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 4: just nonsense on a on a Tuesday, Like if Ryan

565
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 4: Day were to leave, I don't know why you wouldn't

566
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Speaker 4: just hire laurentiis he's there, Yeah, he's the same Marcus.

567
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 4: Why can't James do it?

568
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 5: Ohio State? With Marcus is doing it? Notre Dame?

569
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 4: Why would that be?

570
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Speaker 6: By the way, it was a pretty sweet moment with

571
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 6: Trussell and the two of them.

572
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

573
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty awesome because started his coaching career with free.

574
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Speaker 4: He sure did. He left a very popular morning show

575
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 4: in Columbus. Did do so?

576
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 5: Number one in some market.

577
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 4: Really really really sad. He uh no, but his and

578
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 4: I've known Marcus and James since they were since two

579
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 4: thousand and seven. You got to remember in those days,

580
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 4: Marcus and James would come on to the Sunday night

581
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 4: TV show I would do all the time. They were like,

582
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 4: we'd have them on multiple times in a season, the

583
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 4: two of them would come on.

584
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 7: They're like Cole.

585
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 4: They were like Cole. Yeah, Like they'd come on and

586
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 4: you'd you'd talk whatever and have a ball. And so

587
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 4: I knew those guys. I know those guys obviously very well. Yeah,

588
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 4: And to see them embrace at midfield, the two of them,

589
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: and that's that's a force full circle moment there. Man

590
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 4: to get there. So I thought Freeman was. I thought

591
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 4: Notre Dame in Freeman won it without winning the national title.

592
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 4: I thought they won about as much as you could

593
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: win in perception all of it. Oh yeah they have.

594
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 4: They had a ton of injuries. I had a bunch

595
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: of Amy's side of the Famili's got a bunch of

596
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 4: Notre Dame graduates and they were saying how they were

597
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: texting last night, like the difference between a Marcus Freeman

598
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 4: Notre Dame and a Brian Kelly Notre Dame. Is this

599
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: down thirty one to seven. They lose forty five to ten,

600
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 4: and Freeman's teams battled when they scored that first touchdown

601
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 4: to make it thirty one fifteen, and he was doing this,

602
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: I thought he it was really Herbstreet pointed out, I

603
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 4: thought he was saying, go for two, and I'm like, well,

604
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: of course you're gonna go for two. He was saying,

605
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 4: we need two more of those, Yeah, two more eight

606
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: point drives.

607
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 5: They came off the field and he was high five

608
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 5: and he goes, that's one. Yeah, that's one.

609
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need two. We need that was that was great.

610
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: That was really good. Yeah, it was fun and and

611
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 4: so we'll see where it goes. But I do think

612
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 4: that that support. It's got to get things sorted out

613
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 4: from a calendar standpoint, and it's it. It is great,

614
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 4: and it is It is the second most popular sport

615
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 4: by a wide margin in this country, despite itself really

616
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 4: is like, it does not put itself in the best

617
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: position to succeed, and it's still so damn popular.

618
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 7: Do you like the fact? Now, one of the things

619
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 7: that people used to love about college football was how

620
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 7: much every game mattered.

621
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 5: Yeah. Period.

622
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, college football is now a lot like college basketball,

623
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 7: where you want to position yourself well, but you've got

624
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 7: to get into the dance, and if you get into

625
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 7: the dance, you have a chance.

626
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 4: I think it's a lot like the NFL now, is

627
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: what it is, the real apples to apples that you

628
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: you still have to have the most talented teams. I

629
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: think in the end of the they're not gonna see

630
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: Cinderella stories, right, I mean the four teams in the

631
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 4: final were Penn State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Texas.

632
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 4: Those are monster programs, right, So you're not gonna have

633
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 4: the randomness that college basketball has, much like in the NFL,

634
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: Like every once in a while, Jane Daniels sneaks through

635
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: with a young I mean an improbable run, but like

636
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 4: most people probably thought Philly had a chance to be here.

637
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: And on the other side, obviously it's almost.

638
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 7: There are three teams you knew that were going to

639
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 7: be there, and two of them are two two are

640
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 7: allowed to be Yeah, so that's that's that's the whole

641
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 7: that's so I think college football is really on that

642
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 7: the here's the thing about the regular season I think

643
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 7: it will always matter because you it's always gonna matter

644
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 7: a lot.

645
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: It'll it'll be minimized, and I do think it'll take something.

646
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 4: It's going to take a while for like Buckeye fans

647
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 4: especially to wrap their head around how to handle the

648
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: Michigan game, because you're right, in any other matter it does,

649
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 4: it matters. It's always gonna matter. It's always gonna matter.

650
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: That you saying it's not gonna matter, it's kind of

651
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 4: like saying, like us when we play Pittsburgh, it doesn't matter.

652
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 4: It does matter. It does. It doesn't mean what it

653
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: used to be. It's not the end of your season

654
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: if you lose it. And that's something they're going to

655
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 4: have to adjust to because for over a century it

656
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Speaker 4: was a gateway to you don't get this until you

657
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Speaker 4: get this. And during what He's era, he didn't even

658
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Speaker 4: care about this. He just wanted this. He's that's one

659
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Speaker 4: of the to beat Michigan. He didn't care about a

660
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Speaker 4: national title or a Bowl win. He just wanted to

661
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Speaker 4: beat Michigan. So there's a there's multiple generations that have

662
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Speaker 4: grown up that way, and they're gonna have to understand

663
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Speaker 4: that like that loss is now not okay, it's survivable

664
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Speaker 4: and advanceable. And that's the difference. So I think college

665
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: football is regular season now. I think Ohio State is

666
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Speaker 4: kind of like they're kind of the perfect example of

667
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Speaker 4: like the minimum requirement for a big time school and

668
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Speaker 4: a big time program. The minimum requirement is ten and two.

669
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Speaker 4: As long as you go ten and two, you'll be okay,

670
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Speaker 4: that's ins credible.

671
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Speaker 7: But that's a completely different world. It is.

672
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Speaker 4: It is, It totally is, and so there will be

673
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Speaker 4: folks are gonna have to learn to cope with that

674
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Speaker 4: a little bit. I mean, think about this. Ohio State's

675
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Speaker 4: next game they play is at home against Texas and

676
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Speaker 4: the Shoe that's the next game they play. That's arch

677
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Speaker 4: manning against Julian saying, head to head one year to

678
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Speaker 4: open the season next year, that's gonna be number one

679
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Speaker 4: verse number two in the country.

680
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Speaker 6: Well, and did in Texas this year. They were at

681
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Speaker 6: Michigan to open.

682
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Speaker 4: They were I didn't think they opened GiB but I

683
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 4: think it was like week two.

684
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Speaker 6: Okay, Now Michigan wasn't what Michigan was now. Ohio State's

685
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 6: got some holes that they're gonna but they've got playmakers.

686
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Speaker 4: Well, I was thinking about this on that, like that

687
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Speaker 4: NCAA football game they're at two ninety nine's Caleb downs

688
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Speaker 4: is a ninety nine and Jeremia Smith's ninety nine. That's luck.

689
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Speaker 6: Is there any scary thought like could they both want

690
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Speaker 6: too much money where you can't pay them?

691
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Speaker 4: I don't think so, because I think what they have

692
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 4: done and people think it's hokey or whatever, but I

693
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: think the proof's kind of in the pudding. They have

694
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Speaker 4: threaded the needle between compensation and culture and development. Right,

695
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: so you go there, we'll compensate you. Well, you're not

696
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 4: going to be poor. You're gonna be compensated. Well, this

697
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 4: stage is going to give you a lot. Jeremi Smith,

698
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you saw him in the Nintendo ad over

699
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Speaker 4: the weekend, So you're gonna get a national ad out

700
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Speaker 4: of being a Buckeye. He was in the Nike ad

701
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Speaker 4: last night too. I don't know if you picked up

702
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Speaker 4: on that. That was a Nike NFL College Football splice.

703
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: Jeremi Smith's going to make between three and seven million

704
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 4: dollars the next two years playing college football. That's just

705
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 4: a fact. So and Caleb Downs will be right there

706
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 4: with him. So those two guys are going to profit

707
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 4: hugely from that. And I think that they're smart enough

708
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: to know like this combination of and they do a

709
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: great job of recruiting and bringing in people culturally that fit.

710
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Speaker 4: Winning helps And now all of a sudden, who's got

711
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: it better than them? To steal the harball line? Who's

712
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 4: got it better than the Ohio State right now? Like

713
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 4: where would you even go? That would trump what they're

714
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Speaker 4: selling from a development standpoint and from the winds and

715
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Speaker 4: all of that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they got the.

717
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Speaker 4: Mountaintop right now, at the top of the mountain, gotcha.

718
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 4: And they've been there for They've been on the top,

719
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Speaker 4: on know, near the top of the mountain every year

720
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: for fifty years. Yeah, no slip. There's nothing else in

721
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Speaker 4: sports that can match it. I mean real Madrid, like

722
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 4: very shortlist of all you do is win, always get

723
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Speaker 4: it bats. It's just it's crazy. That's a fun one

724
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Speaker 4: fun game. Last night. We have a poll today at

725
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Speaker 4: Browns Underscore Daily, Which of the last three Buckeye Championship

726
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Speaker 4: teams was your favorite team? Twenty four, fourteen or O two?

727
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Speaker 4: Twenty four or fourteen are your three?

728
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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 6: It's one hundred and seventy votes already in the two

730
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Speaker 6: thousand and two team leads the way with thirty six percent. Yeah,

731
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Speaker 6: the twenty twenty fourteen with thirty four percent, and the

732
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Speaker 6: twenty fourteen team has thirty percent.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that funny? Like I it's it's I think that's

734
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Speaker 4: gonna fall in generational lines, like if you're of a

735
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Speaker 4: certain age, like I don't know how many people if

736
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Speaker 4: you're not, if you weren't here and didn't live through

737
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Speaker 4: the nineties, I don't know if you could appreciate oh

738
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Speaker 4: two and Tressel and you're gonna be proud of our

739
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: young champions and beating Miami and all of those things, Like,

740
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Speaker 4: unless you were here and had the nineties, I don't

741
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Speaker 4: know if you'd appreciate that. And the same is true

742
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Speaker 4: as with fourteen. This is the thing about Ohio State

743
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 4: when they do win a national title, it's like a

744
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 4: thirty for thirty in the case of those two, literally

745
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: thirty for thirties like that. It's so improbable, and it's

746
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: so many things that happened that make it happen. And

747
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 4: this one's just like that. You know, this one's going

748
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: to be just like it because that Michigan loss is

749
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Speaker 4: the worst Michigan loss maybe in the history of the program.

750
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Speaker 4: And six weeks later you're hanging a banner.

751
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it doesn't have When I would say it doesn't matter,

752
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 7: I meant it didn't have the consequences that it used

753
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 7: to have. And so plus it loses some of its significance.

754
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 7: It's still a rivalry game. Of course, you still want

755
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 7: to win it, but there are many rivalry games played

756
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 7: for trophies all around the country. We went through some

757
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 7: of the best ones. Yeah, yeah, they're cool. But this

758
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 7: what made this one so special was that oftentimes, if

759
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 7: your team was having the kind of year was supposed

760
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 7: to have, that game was neat You needed to win

761
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 7: that game to then go win the national championship. Yeah,

762
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 7: it was almost unfathomable to think of a situation where

763
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Speaker 7: you would lose that game and still win the national championship.

764
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 7: And now that will be could be the norm. Not

765
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 7: that you'd lose to them every year you're not going to,

766
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 7: but that one team could lose that game and win

767
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 7: the national title, whereas before that was not really.

768
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Speaker 4: And that's why I brought up I guess that's where

769
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Speaker 4: I was going when I brought up Texas and the

770
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Speaker 4: fact they played Texas next in the old days, if

771
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Speaker 4: Ohio State were to lose to Texas and the opener

772
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 4: at home that Monday show that I'm doing is a Morgue,

773
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 4: that's a Morgan Columbus like it is, Oh you got

774
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 4: to be what is I mean? That's what it was

775
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 4: like with the lost Oregon Yeah, yeah, they can't win anything. Yeah,

776
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: that you could think they get back in it, but

777
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 4: it's like this team's so flawed and so now like

778
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 4: you're going to coach all of those things differently, and

779
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 4: I think the Michigan game will eventually get there too.

780
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 4: The one thing I would say about the other rivalry

781
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 4: trophies like for example, Floyda Rosedale, which is Iowa Minnesota,

782
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 4: that great bronze Pig that they play for, those I

783
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 4: think are going to be are going to matter just

784
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 4: as much because if you're not in the playoffs, then

785
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: you can play for this thing. Yes, so I think

786
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: those will matter for them. But at the top of

787
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 4: the sport, yeah, there will be. And I think it's

788
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: going to take a why for Buckeye fans especially to

789
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 4: wrap their head around it. I think the trade off

790
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 4: is you could if you lose to Michigan, it's not fine,

791
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 4: but it's tolerable if you go do what this team did,

792
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 4: or if you win a couple of rounds. I remember

793
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 4: coming on we were talking like.

794
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Speaker 7: Well, they didn't even play in the Big Ten Championship. No,

795
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Speaker 7: they didn't.

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Speaker 4: But we said, like if if if you were to

797
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Speaker 4: lose to Michigan and beat Oregon in Texas and lose

798
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 4: to Notre Dame, Like, is there fire Ryan day chance? No,

799
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 4: probably not because he has those two monster wins under

800
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Speaker 4: his belt. But if you lose to Michigan and then

801
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 4: you lose to Tennessee, you're gone. So it just you

802
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: eliminate that margin for error is what it does. But

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00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 4: it's gonna take some good.

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00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 7: Use to because if you lost, take off what you're

805
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 7: said right there. So say let's say you play a

806
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 7: Powerhouse Week one, you lose it, Yes, it's like a more.

807
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 7: But at same time, it's like, all right now we

808
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 7: know we just we have to run the table. Yeah,

809
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 7: and so then that Michigan game, that's fact is massive.

810
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 7: Have to win it, have to win it, no question,

811
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Speaker 7: And now you can lose guess what you could lose

812
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 7: that early season Big one. You can lose twice and

813
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 7: you can lose that one.

814
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 4: You have that margin for air if you're if you're

815
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 4: the SEC and the SEC in the Big ten, you

816
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 4: got a two game margin for air. Yeah, that's it,

817
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 4: And that'll take some getting used to for folks.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's any worse.

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Speaker 4: No, and I think it's I don't think just like

820
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Speaker 4: it's like saying, like going to an NFL game between

821
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Speaker 4: two really good teams, if they're awesome, they're still awesome.

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Speaker 4: Just because one team isn't eliminated at the end of

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Speaker 4: it doesn't mean it's not great.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you right now, I got something that

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Speaker 7: I would like to take from the college football Playoff

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Speaker 7: and applied to the NFL Playoff. But that could be

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Speaker 7: a teaser. We can.

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Speaker 5: Let's do that.

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Speaker 4: Coming up next, we'll do that. We we haven't even

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Speaker 7: There's too much?

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Speaker 7: And eventually I'd like to get to a point where

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Speaker 7: and I don't care. I don't care one bit. The

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 7: But once you got to the next round, once you

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, or great Weather or Great Rose Bowl Miami.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, great Weather, you gotta have that. In the NFL,

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Speaker 7: and I think the way to go. This league makes

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Speaker 7: enough money. Yeah, then so much is invested in terms

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Speaker 7: field's frozen and it's snowing is stupid. And people can't

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Speaker 7: of ice is stupid. Yeah, these teams, I would think

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Speaker 7: you want the best team to win. Now the best

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Speaker 7: That's a real turnover him just dropping a football and

872
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 7: then Mark Andrews literally just dropping a football, not the

873
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 7: two point version where he just drops it in the

874
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 7: field to play, and then dropping the two quip that

875
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 7: doesn't happen in a dome. And to me that it's

876
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 7: it is ridiculous when you think of all the hype,

877
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 7: all the expense, all the time, all the investment that's

878
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 7: made on the NFL that when you get to, now,

879
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 7: what are the biggest games of the year, you're gonna

880
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 7: have unknown factors determining the outcome. And I get it.

881
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 11: It.

882
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 7: Teams up North they're like, hey, that's great, home field

883
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 7: advanced for us. Here's the problem with it. And and

884
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 7: I think anyway, I think every team in the league

885
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 7: should be mandated by twenty thirty. You have a retractable dome.

886
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 7: That's the deal. We're all making enough money, we can

887
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 7: all do this. And if it's good weather, sure we'll

888
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 7: leave it open. Yeah, grass fields everywhere, we know they

889
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 7: can grow grass indoors. They happens all around the world, yep.

890
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 7: And when it's bad weather, it's the dome. So that

891
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 7: we're playing pure football because you can be. And for example,

892
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 7: I believe with one percent. Number one of the most

893
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 7: entertaining game of the weekend to me was Commander's Lines.

894
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 7: Where was that played? Those playing a dome? It was awesome.

895
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 7: Bill's Ravens was was also very fun, but the weather

896
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 7: the play was sloppy. And then Eagles Rams was us

897
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 7: disgusting a slog I believe fully this is just me.

898
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 7: The Rams win if that game is played in a dome,

899
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 7: even in Philly, and that the Ravens win if that

900
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 7: game was playing a dome even in finn Buffalo. But

901
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 7: it started over three times and were dropped two point

902
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 7: conversion away. Yeah yeah, from tying the game. Now, I

903
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 7: think they probably scored too fast and It would have

904
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 7: been a great moment to see Alan can you get him?

905
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 7: And Fiel goal range blah blah blah that we were

906
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 7: robbed of by Andrews dropping that ball.

907
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 4: But you know, I like what you said there is

908
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 4: by twenty thirty because initially I thought one thing that

909
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 4: I don't like about the college football thing is the

910
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 4: burden it puts on fans to travel and what you

911
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 4: have to pay for tickets because they get into broker's

912
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 4: hands and then fees are at that. I don't want

913
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: neutral sites, none of that stuff. But I like what

914
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 4: you had at the end where mandated by twenty thirty

915
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 4: everybody has a dome or retractable so that you get

916
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 4: the best ball best ball. That's what you really want.

917
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 7: Too much invested in this for to have them to

918
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 7: mucking ridiculous. There's no reason. There's no reason, and I

919
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 7: think that's why you Super Bowls are going to be

920
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 7: in domes only. I would imagine sometimes they do do

921
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 7: a warm weather, but you even have rain in Florida.

922
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: That happened in Miami when they had the rain with

923
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 4: the Colts and the Bear that was brutal.

924
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 7: Long time ago.

925
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 4: It was a long time ago.

926
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, brutal, this is what it's I guess Tampa last

927
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 7: m was Tom Brady, so that to have been twenty

928
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 7: and then it was Rams in twenty one. Yes, yeah,

929
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 7: and they hosted in a laana. It has been domed

930
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 7: since it's it's you again so much time, and as

931
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 7: somebody who's had the privilege of working in ANFL building

932
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 7: and knowing what these guys put into it and knowing

933
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 7: what the coaches put into it and all that, and

934
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 7: the players, everybody in the organization, all of the fans

935
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 7: to think that your Ravens team Ravens, I think, and

936
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 7: I'll there, I know they are no longer playing. I

937
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 7: think they're the best team in the NFL right now.

938
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 7: I think they are the I think they're team complete,

939
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 7: and they're not going to play anymore because it was

940
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 7: played in an icicle and they couldn't hold the ball.

941
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 7: The other part of it is there is an inherent

942
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 7: inequity in this There is if you are a Northern

943
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 7: team or a Northeastern team, or a cold just called

944
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 7: a cold weather team versus a non cold weather team.

945
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 7: And that's just the way that the geography of the

946
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 7: country is laid down on their teams in both of

947
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 7: these type of climates. Yeah, the non cold, if you're

948
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 7: an Arizona Cardinal or in this you're inn La RAM,

949
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 7: there's nothing that you can do to simulate playing in

950
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 7: that game to get ready for that game, No, any

951
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 7: of it. There's nothing you can do. Are we going

952
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 7: to start moving teams and oh, we anticipate bad weather,

953
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 7: so they're going to go train for the week of

954
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 7: the game and run around out in the cold and

955
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 7: the snow. No, of course they're not going to do that.

956
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 7: But if you were the Eagles and you had that

957
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 7: game was played in La the Eagles don't have to

958
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 7: do anything to get ready to play a dome. I

959
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 7: guarantee they have an indoor practice facility. And what do

960
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 7: you need to simulate perfect conditions? That's not a hard

961
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 7: adjustment to make.

962
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 5: I'm with you.

963
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 7: All these games you'd be played in ideal conditions, and

964
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 7: I know they are the peers of all that's football weather.

965
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 7: If you watch the Eagles Rams game and told me

966
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 7: that you enjoyed that game more than you would have

967
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 7: if you watched that game be played in a dome,

968
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 7: I think you're nuts. They couldn't people couldn't cut your

969
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 7: slowly slow motion moving out of breaks. Jalen Hurts would

970
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 7: drop back and really couldn't move. You would just stand

971
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 7: there and part of it is knee got banged up.

972
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 7: But it was just an undera football.

973
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 4: I mean understand if while we don't have the dome situation,

974
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 4: I don't understand why turf fields in the NFL aren't

975
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 4: more like European soccer fields which are heated and the

976
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 4: footing is great, Like even when it's really cold in England,

977
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: like they don't have Manchester City is have a dome,

978
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 4: but it's really cold and they don't. There's no footing issues.

979
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 4: You don't see it in Germany when Bayern Munich plays

980
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 4: in Munich. You know it's cold in the winter, but

981
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 4: you don't see them slipping and falling all over the place.

982
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 4: The turf's great. Why does the NFL turf not great?

983
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like a minimum that get the heated field.

984
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 4: You get the heated field so that the whether it's

985
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 4: turf or grass, that it's warm and that you can

986
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 4: cut and have true cuts. Then at least if it's cold,

987
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: you have that sure so you have good footing because

988
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 4: you're right, it's it was bad the randomness. Take the

989
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 4: randomness out. That's what I'm saying at this point in

990
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 4: the season. When you're in the final eight, the elite

991
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: eight of the NFL, and you want nonsense, snow and

992
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 4: frozen balls to determine outcomes of games, I'm with you.

993
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 4: That's craziness.

994
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 5: It is. Yeah.

995
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 4: I think what College will do is they're gonna go

996
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 4: when they go to sixteen, it'll be the first two

997
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: rounds at home, and then it'll be neutral from there on.

998
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: Is the way it'll play out, So very similar to

999
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 4: this year. It'll just it'll be the last couple of

1000
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 4: games will be in domes. But I'm with you, and

1001
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 4: I love what you here lying on twenty thirty, Like

1002
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 4: have some sort of climate controlled situation at your operation.

1003
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 4: By twenty thirty everyone's making enough money.

1004
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm with you.

1005
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 4: I'm with you, brother. I like it all right. Time

1006
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: for one thought gibe.

1007
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 6: Indeed, Chiefs twenty three, Texans fourteen.

1008
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 7: So the girl, Yeah, I kind of said at the beginning,

1009
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 7: this one just never really felt in doubt to me.

1010
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 7: I didn't see the Texans going in there and winning.

1011
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 7: I thought that, you know, they played hard. It was

1012
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 7: game the officiating. This is just an overarching one. We

1013
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 7: possessed the technology to get all these things right. Like

1014
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 7: in some of those in real time. There was the

1015
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,959
Speaker 7: one where the two Texans went down and it looked

1016
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 7: like they crushed Mahomes, but they actually hit themselves. They

1017
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 7: didn't hit Mahomes. That's not a panel. No it's not

1018
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 7: so you can see it. No, we're gonna pick it

1019
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 7: up in the sky. And guy says, you know what,

1020
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 7: actually not roughing the passer. Contact was made opponent to opponent,

1021
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 7: that's it, or Textan to Texan not they didn't hit homes.

1022
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 4: The other one it looked like.

1023
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 5: He got crushed.

1024
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 7: I was like, oh, that's fifteen, but he got hit

1025
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 7: in his chest. Legal hit. Pick up the flag. We

1026
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 7: can see it. It's not that hard those are that.

1027
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 7: That's something that I think needs to be that needs

1028
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 7: to be fixed because the game, again too good to

1029
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 7: have these types of things kind of hanging over the head.

1030
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 7: Now that being said, into the game itself, the Chiefs

1031
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 7: play right now what I would call an incredibly boring

1032
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 7: brand of football that is just, for whatever reason successful.

1033
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 7: If they need to block a kick, they block a kick.

1034
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 7: They need your kicker to miss kicks. He's gonna miss

1035
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 7: kicks for whatever reason. They're just gonna do what they

1036
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 7: need to do. Kelsey was great in this when that

1037
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 7: was fun to see. But I mean the numbers. They

1038
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 7: have two hundred and they have one hundred and sixty two.

1039
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 4: And they ran for fifty No, they had, yeah, two

1040
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 4: hundred and twelve yards yards of offense. No, they they

1041
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 4: they are just uber confident. Then in a one score game,

1042
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 4: they'll win. That's it, and they just know how to win.

1043
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: They're gonna one score game. They never panic. The stuff

1044
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 4: with mahomes On going out of bounds, everyone's been talking

1045
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 4: about that. Stuff's real. How he bates those penalties on

1046
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 4: that stuff. I was very happy for Kareem hunt like run.

1047
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 4: He still runs hard. He runs the same way he

1048
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 4: ran here, just limbs flailing violently. Had a big run

1049
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 4: in this one longest run, second long youngest run from

1050
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 4: screams of twelve yarder eight carries forty four head, the

1051
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 4: touchdown five and a half a tote for Kareem.

1052
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 5: That was awesome. Yep. We'll finish up with the AFC.

1053
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 6: We'll come back to the NFC in our two since

1054
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 6: we're up you Gottes did here Bill's twenty seven, Ravens

1055
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 6: twenty five. Since we've been talking about that, bo Bishop

1056
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 6: one thought.

1057
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: Better team lost. Ravens moved it up and down the field.

1058
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: It will Derrick Henry still having that gear at his

1059
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 4: age is remarkable. Feels sick for Mark Andrews just because

1060
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 4: he is a circle of honor. Raven And he had

1061
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 4: a brutal fumble and was the throw perfect. No, but

1062
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 4: it is absolutely one NFL tight ends catch all the

1063
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: damn time. You just catch it and you fall back

1064
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: and you're in. They executed it perfectly. Lamar was just sublime,

1065
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 4: he really was. He had the one turnover but the

1066
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 4: last drive like only he can make some of those

1067
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: plays happen. And that now nose Flowers Batman got hurt

1068
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 4: on the last drive, like they had all of these

1069
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: things that hurt. They scored anyway, They scored anyway. I'm

1070
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 4: really happy for Buffalo, Love that fan base, love Josh Allen,

1071
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 4: love all of it. I wish these two teams got

1072
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 4: to run it back this week. I think we're all

1073
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 4: tired of Kansas City, so I wish these two teams

1074
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 4: could have could have played in an AFC Championship game,

1075
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 4: but they were not afforded that opportunity obviously because of

1076
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: the ring.

1077
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 7: He needed to be the one to be the one. Yeah,

1078
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 7: I mean, Ravens outgained him four sixteen to two seventy three.

1079
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 7: Ravens average seven point three yards per play in this

1080
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 7: one and lost. And they lost because of the weather too.

1081
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 7: Dropped forget the drop two point conversion. Andrews just fumbles

1082
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 7: untouched in the middle of the field in Buffalo territory.

1083
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 7: Then Lamar does it right around the fifty. You know,

1084
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Speaker 7: the one real turnover in the game was Lamar's pick

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Speaker 7: that netted no points. They got the ball right back

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00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 7: from the Buffalo Bills. I hated the fact that the

1087
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 7: conditions played such a big role. Thrilled for Buffalo. It's

1088
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 7: great scene Tamar Hamlin out there. But Lamar Jackson, I

1089
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 7: know that he's not gonna win, he's not going to

1090
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Speaker 7: get to the AFC Championship, all of that. But playoff,

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Speaker 7: Lamar and you hear no. The guy absolutely bald in

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Speaker 7: this game. It's crazy to me that they lost. The

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Speaker 7: other thing that's crazy again is that you watch this

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Speaker 7: Bills team and you know Allen sixty toy two for one,

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00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 7: towy seven. He's unbelievable as a runner. If they need

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Speaker 7: a few like he gets it still. Three rushing touchdowns

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Speaker 7: in this game, two for him, one for Davis. I

1098
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Speaker 7: didn't even know when Amari was in in this game.

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Speaker 7: One target.

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Speaker 5: Great point.

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Speaker 7: No, just watching it.

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Speaker 4: What happened?

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Speaker 7: It's Amari Cooper.

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Speaker 4: I know it's wild. It really is.

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Speaker 7: It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great point out of you. Like I

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Speaker 4: honestly forgot he was a bill watching the game. I

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Speaker 4: forgot he was a Buffalo bill, and I thought he

1109
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Speaker 4: would go in and be like, it's amazing.

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Speaker 7: I thought he's there, dude.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing.

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Speaker 4: We'll go around the league. There's a lot of NFL

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Speaker 4: news to get to. In the second hour of the program,

1114
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Speaker 4: will get to the NFC side of things as well.

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Speaker 4: Our good buddy Tyvas Powell. He was the MVP the

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Speaker 4: will join us with the perspective on a second national

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Speaker 4: title in the last decade for Ohio State. That is

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Speaker 4: all right, how nervous were you in the fourth?

1135
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 12: In the fourth?

1136
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 4: In the fourth?

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Speaker 13: I was not nervous in the fourth quarter this day.

1138
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 13: I knew that day.

1139
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 9: First of all, did Jaydon Great house Kia was the

1140
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 9: guy that I kept telling everybody that he was.

1141
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 12: He had some juice to you.

1142
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 9: I was wondering how they were going to stop this kid,

1143
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 9: and he ended up making some plays.

1144
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 11: Now, the thing about them is I knew this.

1145
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 12: The way Ohio State has played this entire year.

1146
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 9: Okay, they're gonna get to twenty eight points and know

1147
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 9: that you're not gonna get to twenty eight points. So

1148
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 9: once they hit twenty eight points or got.

1149
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 12: To thirty one, it is instant.

1150
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 9: You can tell they took their foot off the gas

1151
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 9: and any moment they can put their foot back on

1152
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 9: the accelerator at nor To Dame wouldn't have had an answer.

1153
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 12: So I was never nervous at all.

1154
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 4: All right, hold on, ye you're telling me. You're telling

1155
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 4: me when they run two straight quarterback keepers up eight

1156
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 4: at the time, up eight, they were in two straight

1157
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 4: quarterback keepers with some dude and at number forty nine

1158
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 4: on the field, no travion, no quinchean telling Notre Dame.

1159
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 4: We're running the quarterback dude. If that ball ain't there,

1160
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 4: to Jeremiah, now it was, But if it ain't there,

1161
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: that's a one score game.

1162
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Speaker 5: Baby.

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Speaker 13: Listen to me, yo, you know what prow I don't frint.

1164
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 9: Okay, I'm not one of those guys that get nervous

1165
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 9: in situations.

1166
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 12: I've been here before. This name my first rodeo.

1167
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 7: So I was calm the entire way I was with you.

1168
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 7: I was calm. I thought it was it was, it

1169
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 7: was toast. My question, though, is you mentioned why ever

1170
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 7: take the foot off the gas? Why not keep scoring

1171
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 7: and really end the game. Why even let it get

1172
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 7: to a point where they're one third down stop away

1173
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 7: from getting the ball back down eight in the fourth quarter?

1174
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 7: Why why did they kind of go into that shell

1175
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 7: after the Abukah fumble.

1176
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 12: Well, you know, see, that's been the problem morell year.

1177
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 12: That's been the.

1178
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 9: Question that everybody wants to know, you know, and maybe

1179
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 9: could go to the killer mentality or whatever you want

1180
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 9: to say. I know, back when my head coach was

1181
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 9: there and I was playing with my team rag, we

1182
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 9: were stepping onto accelerator the entire way.

1183
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 12: But I don't know. I guess they you know, they

1184
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 12: kind of wanted the.

1185
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 9: Cruise to this one and if they need to get

1186
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 9: back up, they can get They know they got the

1187
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 9: ability to do that.

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Speaker 13: I think that's the one knock, if you had to

1189
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 13: nit pick this, that was the one knock is that they.

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Speaker 9: Never really fully just blew a team completely out the

1191
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 9: waters like they should have.

1192
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 4: Well, I think they did that against and against Oregon.

1193
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 4: I do think that you can get better than that,

1194
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 4: But they also go to his point, though, I think

1195
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 4: you hit it, and I think it's important that people

1196
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 4: hear that. Their mentality, Titus, and you nailed it, and

1197
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 4: you're around it a lot, and I'm around a lot too.

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Speaker 4: Their mentality was twenty eight. That was the number they

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Speaker 4: that was. I don't know if they talked about it

1200
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 4: outwardly that much, but that was a very real conversation

1201
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 4: around that operation was we're gonna play sixteen games at

1202
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: twenty eight. Let's chill this thing out, get everybody, and

1203
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: let's just get to the end of the game. And

1204
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 4: you don't want to do that in the National Championship game.

1205
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 4: And it did lead to some nervy moments in the fourth,

1206
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 4: but in the end, it comes down to, look, we've

1207
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 4: got one of the most transcendent receivers to ever come

1208
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 4: out of South Florida and we got it one on one. Buddy,

1209
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 4: My oldest is screaming at the TV. Dad, Jeremiah's one

1210
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 4: on one. There's no safety, there's no safety. I go, buddy,

1211
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 4: I think they see it.

1212
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 9: It was a I don't know why they decided to

1213
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 9: die like that. I get it that you feel like

1214
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 9: your secondary is really good, but like you gotta be

1215
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 9: realistic with.

1216
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 13: Yourself, like you you couldn't you didn't have the guys

1217
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 13: to cover these wide receivers for four quarters.

1218
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 12: And I get that.

1219
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 9: You you you couldn't go zone because you didn't have

1220
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 9: a pass rush. You was without some of your best

1221
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 9: pass rushers. So they were in a vine the entire night.

1222
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 9: They were being better off just playing the two high

1223
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 9: safety looks and letting Ohio State dincon dunk their way

1224
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 9: down the field.

1225
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 13: But they was like not trying to back down. They

1226
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 13: was playing one high, and I was like, are you serious.

1227
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 9: Like it should be coaching mal practice to call one

1228
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 9: high against Ohio State wide receivers.

1229
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Speaker 11: I mean, they were cooking them, dude, even on.

1230
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 9: The bomb at the end of the game. The Jeremiah

1231
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 9: Smith I went back and watched that play a Mecca

1232
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 9: didn't and one mixtape his dude off the line hit

1233
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 9: the ground and the only reason he didn't, thought to

1234
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 9: America because that safety had to.

1235
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 12: Come down and arrive to dig.

1236
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 13: So I'm like, this is sad that y'all see what's

1237
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 13: going on.

1238
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 9: And y'all will continue to stay a man the man

1239
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 9: like it was his coach of male practice.

1240
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 11: I think that they might have been in on the spree.

1241
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 12: I'm not gonna lie. They were trying to let ee take.

1242
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 6: Well.

1243
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 7: They certainly, they certainly did get there. And that's the thing.

1244
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 7: Just sometimes it's just that simple throat to flour. It

1245
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 7: works out. It works out pretty well. We were talking

1246
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 7: about Tyvis earlier, how this is a team that you know,

1247
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 7: capitalized on a change in rules that in other seasons,

1248
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 7: every year prior to this one in the sport of

1249
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 7: college football would not have ended with the national championship.

1250
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 7: It would have ended with disaster against Michigan, and who

1251
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 7: knows where that would have left. But they had this opportunity.

1252
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 7: They had a very difficult run. They made it relatively

1253
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 7: easy fashion all the way through with that gauntlet that

1254
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 7: they went through. What do you think now going forward

1255
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 7: as a guy who played for the Buckeyes about now

1256
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 7: that you know you can lose the Michigan and win

1257
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 7: a national championship that it's a very different world. How

1258
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 7: does that change that game?

1259
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 9: First of all, I hate it. Okay, I'm in the

1260
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 9: camp where we got to win every game. You know,

1261
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 9: obviously I didn't get that we lost the Presinia Tech

1262
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 9: but that last.

1263
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 12: Game, and people don't want to hear this.

1264
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 9: Yes, is losing some power, Yes it is, but to

1265
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 9: the people of Ohio and the people of.

1266
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 13: That state up nor like they it's still there.

1267
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 9: Like the bragging rights is really what it's about. That's

1268
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 9: basically what that game has now turned into. Who can

1269
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 9: brag for three hundred and sixty five days. I think

1270
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 9: that really not that they've won this national championship. I

1271
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 9: think it takes pressure off of Ryan Ding next year.

1272
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 9: I'm actually interested to see how he performs in that

1273
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 9: game because now it's not coaching for his job, like

1274
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 9: now it's you know, like it's just another big game

1275
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 9: to me now, so like I'm not gonna be hand

1276
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 9: over heels trying to get everybody prepared because we know

1277
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 9: how to win big games. So I think that game, yes,

1278
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 9: it is gonna lose a little juice that the fans

1279
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 9: don't want to hear.

1280
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 13: But to me, a guy from Ohio, a guy that

1281
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 13: was born here.

1282
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 12: A guy that's played in it, that game always means.

1283
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 11: The world to me.

1284
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 12: It's still life or death to me.

1285
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 9: But I understand that it's not the end of the

1286
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 9: world if they lose that game. To me, it is though,

1287
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 9: but I understand how some people could be like, it's

1288
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 9: not the end of the world.

1289
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna take some getting used to for everybody,

1290
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 4: and some folks just aren't want to get used to it. Tyus.

1291
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 4: I said this in the morning. I said it this morning.

1292
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 4: I said it was ze in the first hour here, Like,

1293
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 4: I think this is the biggest discrepancy between what a

1294
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 4: win does and what a loss would have done, maybe

1295
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: in college football history. If they lose this one, that

1296
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 4: whole group leaves with nothing. There's nothing, there's not a ring,

1297
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 4: there's nothing, there's not Michigan, there's not Big ten, there's nothing.

1298
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 4: They leave completely empty hand. Instead, they get to leave

1299
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 4: at the top of the sport. And that's you think

1300
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 4: about the pressure that they played with the last month.

1301
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: You think about the burden that they carried with them,

1302
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 4: and the gap of what could have been had this

1303
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 4: not gone right. It's about as satisfying a result as

1304
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 4: you're gonna get.

1305
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, I was sitting there. I was talking to somebody

1306
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 13: yesterday about that.

1307
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 9: I was explaining to them, like, this team never beat

1308
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 9: the team up. Nor this team never been to Indianapolis

1309
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 9: to play for a big championship. And I always say

1310
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 9: ten to fifteen years from now when they decided to

1311
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 9: have kids, if they didn't win this game.

1312
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 12: What was they coming back to?

1313
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 9: What was what was they going to show their kids

1314
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 9: that daddy did for Ohio State? It would have been nothing.

1315
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 9: So to me, when you if you notice with young men,

1316
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 9: like if you get to know, if you get to

1317
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 9: know these guys and you understand like who they are,

1318
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 9: are you understand how important this was and how grateful

1319
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 9: that you are.

1320
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 13: That they got this d done because, like I.

1321
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 12: Said, they deserve it.

1322
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 13: They've been through a lot, and they've been a little

1323
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 13: four years here.

1324
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 7: To your point, though, they needed to do it right.

1325
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 7: Could you imagine no gold pants and no national title.

1326
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 7: I mean, now it's gonna hurt, but that's gonna matter

1327
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 7: because they.

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01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 11: Can.

1329
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 13: I can't.

1330
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 4: I know you can't. He doesn't know any other way.

1331
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 9: In all seriousness though, like they they definitely needed this

1332
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 9: now is uh.

1333
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 13: When they come back, people gonna look at them differently.

1334
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 12: Like I say, life is a champion in.

1335
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 11: Columbus is very well, it's.

1336
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 9: Very nice and these guys are gonna understand what that's

1337
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 9: like once they're done playing or.

1338
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 12: Whatever they do in life. You know, when they get

1339
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 12: introduced to say.

1340
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 13: This is Nashal you know, champion blah blah blah, like that.

1341
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 11: May it means something.

1342
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 13: It holds more weight, you give more credibility into sport.

1343
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 12: So it was big for this.

1344
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 4: It's football immortality is what it is. Every time you're

1345
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 4: introduced for the rest of your life, that comes first

1346
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 4: National Champion Tyvas Powell. Every time I introduce you, it's

1347
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 4: the most valuable player of the National Championship game. Tys Like,

1348
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 4: that's it's the like doctor Tyvus Powell. That's what they got.

1349
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 4: They got that now forever, and you know what that means.

1350
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 4: And you know the crazy thing about I was thinking

1351
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 4: about this juxtaposed to you guys in fourteen, there's a

1352
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 4: great deal of financial gain around Columbus appearances autographs because

1353
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 4: everybody wants everybody's signature who played on that team. These

1354
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 4: kids can now profit off of all of that. My man, Yes,

1355
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 4: like you're gonna have Caleb Downs of Jeremiah Smith. They're

1356
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 4: gonna walk around they already kind of do. They're gonna

1357
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 4: walk around like NFL players in Columbus.

1358
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 12: Must be nice.

1359
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 9: You know, it must be nice to be able to

1360
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 9: just put a table out and say I want to

1361
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 9: do autogram signings and get.

1362
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 13: All the process the proceeds from it.

1363
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 12: You know, it's and.

1364
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 4: Keep your eligibility.

1365
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 13: You know what now that I think? Now, did I

1366
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 13: think about it? You brought up the m v B.

1367
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 11: I was a little upset that Caleb.

1368
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 9: Downs nor Latha Ransom didn't get it. You know, for

1369
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 9: the past two National Championship VY the deference the MVP

1370
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 9: has went to a safety and they let this linebacker

1371
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 9: come steal it from him.

1372
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 12: So I was a little upset about that.

1373
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 9: But overall, Cody Simon is an unbelievable guy and an

1374
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 9: even better player, so he's the right guy to get it.

1375
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 12: I mean, he got the block over for a reason.

1376
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,439
Speaker 13: Can't wait to see what he does on the next level.

1377
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 12: He's gonna be a really good player.

1378
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 4: How proud were you of Caleb Downs on the one

1379
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 4: where he filled where he blew up the block that

1380
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 4: was trying to block him inside.

1381
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 11: Come on, man, listen, man, the kid is just instinctual. Man.

1382
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 9: He understands football like you gotta you gotta crack the

1383
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 9: guy that's cracking you and still.

1384
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 13: Get back in and make to play it.

1385
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 9: And what makes Caleb so special is his open field

1386
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 9: tackling ability is out.

1387
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 13: Of this world.

1388
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 12: Man. This guy rarely.

1389
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 9: Misses tackles and he actually could cover really well. You know,

1390
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 9: I was always like to be critical of guys. It's

1391
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 9: not like how it was back when I was coming

1392
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 9: out where you can have a box safety in a

1393
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 9: post safety.

1394
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 13: No, no, no, you guys know how the NFL is.

1395
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 12: You gotta be able to cover it.

1396
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 13: Ain't none of that box safety stuff.

1397
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 12: If that's the case, you're gonna.

1398
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 9: Play line backer. No, this guy, Caleb Downs is the

1399
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 9: full package. He can play the post, he can play

1400
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 9: man the man.

1401
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 13: Obviously we seen him against Tyler Warren and.

1402
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 9: Some of those tight ends, locking those guys down. And

1403
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 9: then this is a guy that absolutely makes every tackle.

1404
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 9: I mean it was a play in this game where

1405
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 9: he was getting stiff to the ground.

1406
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 11: And somehow he's still made the tackle.

1407
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 9: So this guy, this guy's a musty TV. Whenever he

1408
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 9: comes out, Man, he's gonna go very high.

1409
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 12: In the drags.

1410
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 7: Tyvas Will Howard went on a pretty historic r BO

1411
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 7: was saying that it was on par with Zeke's great

1412
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 7: run back in fourteen. What do you make of him

1413
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 7: as a as a pro prospect after getting to watch

1414
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 7: him all year? Is this somebody that you think can

1415
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 7: come in and lead a team to a championship at

1416
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 7: this level?

1417
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 12: I don't think not right away. I'm not gonna say

1418
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 12: that if you draft.

1419
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 9: If you draft, like say Cleveland Browns, beside the draft,

1420
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 9: Will Howard, you know, I don't think he would be

1421
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 9: the day one starter. I think he's one of those

1422
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 9: guys that needs to sit behind, you know, an established

1423
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 9: guy for maybe a year or two because I think

1424
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 9: he still is learning the game. I mean, if you

1425
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 9: watch him this season at Ohio State, from the Acron

1426
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 9: game to that National Championship game, that's two different wheels.

1427
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 9: Will at the beginning of the season was a guy.

1428
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 13: That could not make every throw on the on the

1429
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 13: on the field. This was a guy that had that

1430
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 13: threw bad passes.

1431
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 12: Once or twice a game that was like what are

1432
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 12: you doing? That's not who he is anymore.

1433
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 9: And the fact that he was able to change that

1434
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 9: in one year. Oh that this guy is like a sponge.

1435
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 9: But I think he needs to get with a quarterback coach,

1436
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 9: with a guy in the league, or a quarterback coach

1437
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 9: in the league.

1438
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 11: That's they'll continue to build.

1439
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 13: On that process that he's learned.

1440
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 9: He's shown you that he can end season change his mechanics,

1441
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 9: change his mind, his.

1442
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 12: Thought processing, his ball, his approach.

1443
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 11: They can do that in one season.

1444
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 9: Just imagine if you get him for an offseason, be

1445
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 9: able to work well for an entire offseason, Let him

1446
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 9: get a year to learn the game on an NFL level,

1447
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 9: and then give him the keys. I think that that

1448
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 9: guy can be a really good NFL prospect, but I'm

1449
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 9: not gonna say right away.

1450
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:38,479
Speaker 11: He will be that guy.

1451
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 4: The way he climbed the pocket, he was not doing

1452
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 4: that in September, and he did that a lot in

1453
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 4: this run. When the pressure would come around, he would

1454
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 4: step up and then keep his eyes downfield, Tyvas. He

1455
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 4: was not making those plays in September. He was making

1456
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 4: them in December. Ryan actually said this today. He said,

1457
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 4: if his footwork is right, he's as accurate as any

1458
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 4: quarterback I've ever had, but that his footwork gets loose.

1459
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 4: He's never had coaching like this. He's never had this

1460
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 4: level of coaching, and now he got like quarterback masterclass

1461
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 4: for one year, and who knows what would have happened

1462
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 4: with the second year, but he's got certainly a lot

1463
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 4: of the measurables. Get you out of here on this one, buddy.

1464
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 4: If you you talk to some of these kids on

1465
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 4: this team, you mentioned how swed it is to be

1466
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 4: a national champion in columbuson in Ohio. Does the how

1467
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 4: does your life change? How is all of their life

1468
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 4: going to change?

1469
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 5: Now?

1470
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 9: Well, their life is going to change because now and see,

1471
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 9: this is the part as an athlete.

1472
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 13: This is how it changed.

1473
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 9: You understand what it takes to make it to the

1474
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 9: highest mountaintop. And you know this is something that I

1475
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 9: credit Kevin Stevanski to last year with the Cleveland Browns

1476
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 9: was when he was able to make those guys selfless.

1477
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 12: If you want to win it all, you have to

1478
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 12: become selfless.

1479
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 11: It is very difficult to.

1480
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 13: Do in the NFL.

1481
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 9: But if you can find a way to get to selflessness,

1482
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 9: to where it is not about me, it's about I

1483
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 9: don't want to let that guy next to me down,

1484
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 9: that's where you become special. And these guys have been

1485
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 9: through that process.

1486
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 13: And understand that that's what it takes to win it all.

1487
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 9: So I think that that's what's gonna help them be

1488
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 9: better pros, is that they'll find a way to get

1489
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 9: real close, real tight knick with some of those key guys,

1490
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 9: some of those core guys on the team and becomes selfless,

1491
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 9: and I think that's what's gonna fulfill them to have

1492
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 9: great NFL careers. Think about it, a guy like me,

1493
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 9: a defensive MVP that played safety at Ohio State. When

1494
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 9: I got to the NFL as a rookie, I was

1495
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 9: in the lob and the way that I became selfless

1496
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 9: is that forget playing safety, forget playing corner.

1497
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 13: I need to make an impact. So that's gonna be

1498
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 13: on special teams.

1499
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 9: So I'm wanting to go out there and sacrifice my

1500
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 9: body and put my body on the line for special

1501
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 9: teams because I want to be a part.

1502
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 13: Of this group, because this group is such a family.

1503
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 9: That was the way of me being selfless, and I

1504
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 9: think this group has got that same mentality in the

1505
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 9: same message. It is going to help him have a

1506
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 9: very productive career.

1507
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 4: You're the best, buddy, Thanks for your time.

1508
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 5: Yes, I appreciate you all.

1509
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 13: Go Bucks, Go Browns, Go Calves, the.

1510
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 4: Great Times Pow Jody, so the two. He's always happy.

1511
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 7: Man, It's almost like that's like a Bernie sign off.

1512
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, he added to go Calves, go Bucks, go brown

1513
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 4: then he gets some go Calves, and then you met,

1514
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 4: let's go That's right, all right, we'll do the NFC

1515
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 4: sided things on the one thought. Coming up next, you'll

1516
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 4: see Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN.

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Speaker 4: up one thought around the divisional weekend and for that

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Speaker 6: Hello, Gibbet, Good afternoon, gentlemen. Saturday night, probably the most

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Speaker 6: fun game back and forth and probably on the shocking aspect,

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Speaker 6: pretty shocking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially I mean like z Had Washington I think

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01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 4: he may have picked him to win it, but com

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Speaker 4: way that heartsick for Detroit, heartsick for that fan base. Yes,

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01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 4: heartsick for Dan Campbell and the players. They were obviously

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01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 4: not whole in any way defensively in terms of what

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Speaker 4: they thought that they were going to be. I misread

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Speaker 4: the margin for that. But I also didn't see Jared

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01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 4: Goff having maybe the worst game he's played in a year.

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Speaker 4: He had a five pick game earlier in this season,

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01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 4: but I mean it was a bad golf too, So

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Speaker 4: I mean every time they were starting to get back

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Speaker 4: in it, like he threw that pick on the on

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Speaker 4: the post and you got to throw that further out,

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 4: like everybody knows that. I just feel really bad for them.

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01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 4: Jane Daniels is brilliant and there will be plenty of

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Speaker 4: conversation about him. I just think about going fifteen and

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01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 4: two and you get that playoff game and you I

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01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,480
Speaker 4: kind of feel like, I don't mean to be fatalistic

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Speaker 4: about it, but I do kind of feel like that

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Speaker 4: the window for Detroit was there, and now this will

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Speaker 4: be a different Yeah, staff new OC, probably be a

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01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 4: new DC. There'll be some guys coming back, some guys

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 4: leaving on the roster, like this kind of window that

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Speaker 4: they had, they could have maybe won last year in

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Speaker 4: San Francisco. This team was lined up for that and

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01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 4: maybe they blew it. You feel sick for them about that.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it is tough. It is tough, tough, tough, and

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01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 7: I would have loved to have seen them win this game.

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01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 7: I mean the second quarter in this game was this

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01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 7: funny quarter of professional football as we have seen in

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Speaker 7: a long time. Forty two points were scored, just back

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Speaker 7: and forth. Teddy Bridgewater comes in and leads a touchdown drive.

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Speaker 7: Now Grandy handed it off mostly but nonetheless was out

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Speaker 7: there for a touchdown drive when GoF had gotten knocked

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Speaker 7: out By the way Cough got crushed and there should

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01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 7: have been a flag on that interception return like that

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01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 7: was crazy for all the way they go out of

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Speaker 7: their way to protect the quarterbacks and then right there

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Speaker 7: he gets absolutely annihilated by Louvu. I like this Washington team.

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Speaker 7: Jade and Daniels, I've talked about him a lot. Is

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Speaker 7: a stud. McLaurin is great, Diami Brown has become what

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Speaker 7: they thought he would be when they drafted him. Ertz

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01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 7: is reliable when you need a big catch. Eckler can

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01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 7: still play. They've got a lot of pieces. They are very,

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Speaker 7: very scary. I wanted the Rams win badly so that

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Speaker 7: this game will be played indoors, and I would have

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01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 7: thought that would be a better game. Now it's going

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01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 7: to be in Philly, Woo. Who knows what the weather's

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01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 7: going to be like. But Jaden Daniels is awesome. I

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01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 7: don't know if you read that whole story about him

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01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 7: and VR and everything that he does for every game,

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Speaker 7: the preparation, it's wild, and he does it all I

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01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 7: think one point seventy five speed so that the game

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01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 7: seems slower. He sees all the coverages, sees everything. I

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01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,879
Speaker 7: think everybody should be doing that, and he actually wouldn't.

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Speaker 7: He said that it was part of his requirement that

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Speaker 7: he would not go to a team that wouldn't draft them,

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Speaker 7: that wouldn't do the VR stuff. That was one of

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Speaker 7: his things coming out of college because I think it

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Speaker 7: really helped when he went to LSU. I read the

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Speaker 7: whole thing, But what a win from the Commanders and

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Speaker 7: you talk about situation. I was having this conversation with

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Speaker 7: somebody like if Jade and Daniels got dropped into Chicago

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Speaker 7: and Caleb Williams got dropped into Washington with Cliff. They

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Speaker 7: probably have very different looking rookie years now. I think

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Speaker 7: it's pretty easy to say right now and feel confident

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Speaker 7: that you know, Jane Daniels probably the better quarterback of

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Speaker 7: the two, just seeing how well he's playing. But you

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01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 7: said it earlier, and it's so correct that the situation

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Speaker 7: matters so so greatly.

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Speaker 4: One thing on that no one come out here for

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Speaker 4: their flowers on Jane Daniels like they predicted it. We

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Speaker 4: were at the combine, we had everybody on was number one.

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Speaker 4: It was number one, Gap Gap. It was a big

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Speaker 4: Drake may Or Jayden and Daniels. I like Jade Daniels

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Speaker 4: a little more to it, but it's Caleb and then

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Speaker 4: a drop. The only person was Herbie. He's the only

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Speaker 4: one who said I like Jade Daniels the most. It's

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Speaker 4: the only one I can recall was Kirk Kurbstreet saying it.

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Speaker 4: Everybody else said Caleb Gap May Daniels, So like this

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Speaker 4: was not like, oh yeah, I knew Jade Daniels to

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Speaker 4: do this.

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Speaker 7: No, you did not.

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Speaker 4: You did not know it. So it seems like he's

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Speaker 4: got the answers to the test.

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Speaker 7: I drafted him in every fantasy league basically that I

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Speaker 7: had this year and guided me to championship, which I

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Speaker 7: appreciate Jayden that he did that, but that was because

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Speaker 7: people thought he was going to be such a good runner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he ran statisticalations.

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Speaker 7: Right exceptions, but the fact nobody thought he was gonna

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Speaker 7: come out here complete almost seventy percent of his passes

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Speaker 7: as a rookie and twenty five to nine touchdownder sceptraight

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Speaker 7: hundred rating. None of them.

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Speaker 4: They didn't think he'd win either, like he Also, it's

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Speaker 4: one thing to stat pannam be a good fantasy player,

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Speaker 4: like he's clutch.

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Speaker 7: He had one, didn't He have something like three straight

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Speaker 7: games where he produced more scoring drives than he had incompletions.

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Speaker 11: Yet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was early in the area.

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Speaker 7: And you take all the other quarterbacks that are great, Mahomes,

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Speaker 7: all of them. I think it was Mahomes Manning Brady,

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Speaker 7: and they'd done it three times combined in their careers.

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Speaker 4: Remember that playing them that he had done that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so he Yeah, guy's unbelievable is what he is.

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Speaker 7: He probably had another one here because he had a

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Speaker 7: game where he had he went twenty five for thirty

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Speaker 7: and they scored forty two points. So that's another game

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Speaker 7: where he would have done that. He's unbelievable, man. He

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01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 7: and it in this game. The running numbers look a

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01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 7: little bit better than they actually were. But you go

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01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 7: back to the game against Tampa. I mean he had

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01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 7: to do it all himself in that second half, and

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Speaker 7: he did it.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 6: You know you guys talk about you know, role reversals.

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Speaker 6: I mean the situation that he got dropped into in

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Speaker 6: Washington with Cliff running the offense. Yeah, yeah, and Quinn

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Speaker 6: just be in the stabilizing forces, the head.

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Speaker 4: Coached weapons eler like little things, nice little free.

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Speaker 6: Which I'm not sure if I'm Ben Johnson, you're still.

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Speaker 5: Shock part of that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean, obviously he likes Kleb, But I mean,

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Speaker 7: to me, Jacksonville is just it's the number one job,

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 7: and there's un Really they're reinterviewing.

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Speaker 4: There must be there must not be a belief in

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01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 4: Trevor the way that we think people must see stuff

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01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 4: on film that they don't believe.

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Speaker 7: Or now it's coming out that he doesn't love ball.

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Speaker 5: I guess.

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Speaker 7: I mean the guy was out there playing with his

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Speaker 7: His ac sprain was so big on his left shoulder

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01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 7: that it looked like there was a person standing on

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Speaker 7: his shoulder because and he was playing football. When my

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01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 7: was heard, I didn't want to do anything. You guys

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Speaker 7: out there playing football, So I don't I questioning his

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01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 7: love of the game. To me is I don't get that.

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Speaker 6: The final game in the divisional playoffs out of the

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Speaker 6: NFC came center afternoon. It was a snow globe Philly

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Speaker 6: twenty eight, Los Angeles twenty two, oh Bishop one.

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Speaker 5: Though.

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Speaker 4: This was bad ball. It was really bad ball. It

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Speaker 4: was not a fun game to watch. It was just

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01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:21,679
Speaker 4: bad ball. I have so as well documented so much

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Speaker 4: respect for McVeigh Stafford and the way that they did it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what to expect out of Philly weekend

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01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 4: and week out. Saquan's obviously unbelievable. I'm sure they're favored

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01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 4: in the game against against Washington this weekend.

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Speaker 5: I haven't seen it.

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01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 4: The two teams split the two games they played. Philly

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Speaker 4: won in Philly twenty six to eighteen, and then the

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Speaker 4: most recent one was on the twenty second, where Washington

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01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 4: won thirty six thirty three in Philly so that you

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Speaker 4: have that look forward to.

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Speaker 7: But this game was unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: I just think in the end, it's just I just

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01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 4: wish that game. I wish the weather would have cooperated

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01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 4: and would have got to see it played the way

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01:16:58,160 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 4: that it was it should have been played.

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01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 7: Yes, agreed, that was my point earlier, even though I

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01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 7: was roundly rebuked and red by my uh co host.

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01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 4: I just think you want oh foreshadowing.

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01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 7: Not co host co my plate by play my partner

1694
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 7: in the booth nose foreshadowing watch.

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01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 4: Out No, I uh yeah, I just want to see

1696
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 4: good ball and it just wasn't. And I don't know

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01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 4: what the weather.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sold on Philly being a team that can

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01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 6: win at all. I get I think they win in

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01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 6: spite of their coaching a lot of times.

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Speaker 4: This is just brings it back to I know we're

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01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 4: doing an NFC now and like my kids hate the

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01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 4: Ravens because they used to be the Browns, so like

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01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 4: two of them made them one of them rooting for Baltimore.

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01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 4: I have no rooting interest for there. I do not

1706
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 4: need simone doing victory laps. This was their year, this

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01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 4: is there.

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01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 7: That's why Lamar, you saw the frustrating nineteen.

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Speaker 4: Out of Henry Henry running the way that ain't that

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Speaker 4: the US.

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Speaker 6: Had that you want to talk about not having something,

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01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,799
Speaker 6: we thought, that's not acquiring Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 5: Okay, what's that going to do? How's that really going

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01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 5: to help?

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01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 4: This was their year.

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01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 7: By the way Kansas they did last year in the NBA,

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01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 7: it didn't help them, but like it did and this

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01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 7: this is their team.

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01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 4: The whoever wins the the AFC feels like it feels

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01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 4: very good. I think so, and I think balt I'm

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Speaker 4: with you. I think Baltimore's they were the most dangerous

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01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 4: team in the league.

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Speaker 7: What we had right about Baltimore was their defensive losses

1725
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 7: were going to be a major impact, and through eleven

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01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 7: weeks we were spot on. Not that it really impacted

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01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 7: their record all that much, but it did cost him

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01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 7: enough to get to not have the number one seed,

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01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 7: and then they became the number one defense in the league.

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Speaker 7: From week eleven on, they had it, they had it

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Speaker 7: all going. They turned it over obviously, I think some

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01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 7: of it weather related, and they still had every chance

1733
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 7: to go down there and not win. If people are

1734
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 7: anything like that was he dropped that they did lose,

1735
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 7: but nonetheless, Josh Allen's gonna have a minute and a

1736
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 7: half to go get a field goal, and it felt

1737
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 7: like he would. Yes, but they shouldn't have been in

1738
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 7: those Yeah, they were so good and it's it's a

1739
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 7: devastating loss for them. I think, I really.

1740
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 5: Do think Lamar knew it too.

1741
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 7: I think that's why he was so frustrated, Like how

1742
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 7: many how many bites at the apple do I get

1743
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,839
Speaker 7: where it really feels like we could do this where

1744
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 7: you know why?

1745
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 4: I look across the field and I go, yeah, we're

1746
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 4: better than them.

1747
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 7: Yeah we lost.

1748
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 5: We lost.

1749
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 7: And by the way, you go back to last year,

1750
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 7: people forget. Here's the other thing. With kind of the

1751
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 7: disrespect that Lamar is getting, he has changed. There was

1752
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 7: a time when it was true he was not a

1753
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 7: good playoff quarterback. That time is long gone. No, they

1754
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 7: had Kansas City beat they Flowers fumbled at the one

1755
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 7: inch line yep, after a completed nice pass and try

1756
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 7: to get in and that in essence, that play, along

1757
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 7: with some others, cost them that game. But they had

1758
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 7: every chance to beat Kansas City in that game.

1759
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, they did.

1760
01:19:58,320 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 4: Lots of news around the league. We will get to that,

1761
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 4: get to some soundbites coming up as well. He listened

1762
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,920
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1770
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1771
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,799
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1772
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,360
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Speaker 4: of your Cleveland Browns. Ben Johnson reportedly, it's going to

1774
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 4: be the hit. Well not. I saw him on a tarmac,

1775
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 4: so he's in Chicago, so he's well.

1776
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 7: He actually came in and they did the whole thing

1777
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 7: where he comes in the building and everybody's there giving

1778
01:20:59,479 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 7: him a standing.

1779
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's in a does not work well here. His

1780
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 4: color is a great he's like in a bright blue

1781
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 4: history bright blue pant with like a turquoise jacket, which

1782
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 4: it looked very ninety for this.

1783
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 7: He's right here, He's like, this is what we want

1784
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 7: to be.

1785
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 4: So he was the prize in most people's eye of

1786
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 4: of being the head coach everybody kind of wanted. So

1787
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 4: they get him. They have a ton of offensive weaponry.

1788
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 4: There must be more to that Jacksonville situation. As we

1789
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 4: were talking about a couple other things, Bob Salah his

1790
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 4: second interview with the Jacksonville Jaguars for their head coaching vacancy,

1791
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 4: and then Aaron Glenn is going to interview in New

1792
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 4: york Ian Rappaport reporting the goal is to keep him

1793
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 4: from leaving the building so Glenn could be the head

1794
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 4: coach there. I would not want that job.

1795
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 7: No, I think it would be a very difficult job.

1796
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 7: And you know one of the things that's hard too

1797
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 7: is and Belichick railed against it today and you know,

1798
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 7: you see it and even in Gibbe's notes here with

1799
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 7: Ben Johnson and he said, you know, he's been busy

1800
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 7: together putting together a stat I think it's very common.

1801
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 7: It's like, Hey, if I end up going to be

1802
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 7: a head coach, do you want to do this? Do that?

1803
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 7: But you know you're thinking about these interviews. You're thinking

1804
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 7: about all of these things when you should be as

1805
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 7: locked in as you can beyond winning. And I think

1806
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 7: it's they just.

1807
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,799
Speaker 4: Need to what do they need to do? The suspend

1808
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 4: it until the super Bowl, spent till super Bowl or

1809
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 4: after the super Bowl, no coaching hires still after the

1810
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 4: super Bowl, no coaching interviews still after the super Bowl?

1811
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 4: I think is that enough?

1812
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 7: I think you should be able to do interviews probably

1813
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 7: leading up to it, because there's the two weeks, but

1814
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 7: it has to be in the first week so that

1815
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 7: the week leading to the super Bowl is totally free.

1816
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 4: There should be an there should be a window that

1817
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 4: is a dark period, yes, where this can't happen.

1818
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 5: I agree with that.

1819
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 7: The hard part is you have teams that are out

1820
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 7: so they want it.

1821
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 4: But if what are you doing anyway?

1822
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 5: Though?

1823
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 7: Right right?

1824
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 4: I think ahead not that big a deal. No, there's

1825
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 4: nothing to do. I mean the Senior Bowls coming up,

1826
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 4: but like you have a scouting staff for that, Like

1827
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 4: you're goinging plenty of time to catch up, you get

1828
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 4: the combine, you get all of it. You could quite

1829
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 4: honestly just shut it off, turn the spickot off, give

1830
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 4: one week between that first week of the Super Bowl

1831
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 4: and then the second week is black again, and it'd

1832
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 4: be fine.

1833
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 7: I think you could get it all done right there.

1834
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 7: You hit all done that you need.

1835
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 4: Yeah that I agree with you on that all right.

1836
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 4: Time for some sound bites some of the very best

1837
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 4: calls from the divisional round. Let's start chronologically with Kansas

1838
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 4: City and Houston. This is the Mahomes touchdown pass to

1839
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 4: Travis Kelcey Mitch Holthus on ninety six point five to

1840
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 4: the fan in Kansas City.

1841
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 5: Three receivers to the right.

1842
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 2: Mahomes stepping up again, tries to throw a light cod

1843
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 2: touchdown Chansas City, Travis Kelsey.

1844
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 5: Owning this game an eleven.

1845
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 7: Yard touchdown, playoff pat to playoff Kelsey and the Chiefs League,

1846
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 7: nineteen twelve.

1847
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 4: My kids were saying during the to the Kansas City

1848
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 4: the UNFL is rigged us on Kansas City in there,

1849
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 4: and in their words, I crashed out. I did crash

1850
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 4: out on them. My wife goes, gosh, that was harsh.

1851
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, I can't have my kids sounding like my

1852
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 4: Twitter timeline. Yes, I can't have it. We're not going

1853
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 4: to be ignorant about how the world works.

1854
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 7: No, and I actually saw a stat that over the

1855
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 7: last six years, the Chiefs have one of the biggest

1856
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 7: penalty yardage differentials in the league to the negative. Yeah,

1857
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 7: it doesn't feel that way when you watch them. I

1858
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 7: believe me. My father is inundating me at all times

1859
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 7: with your father anti Chiefs memes.

1860
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 4: Why does he hate him just because they beat his niners?

1861
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 7: I think they're just the too much winning, too much winning.

1862
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 4: There's a lot of parallels between them and his beloved Warriors.

1863
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that winning and the calls and all

1864
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 4: of it, there's a lot of it. Well, yeah, look,

1865
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 4: that's what happens when you're good. That's part of it.

1866
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 7: That's part of being good.

1867
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 5: It's part of being good. Man.

1868
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 4: All right, let's go to Washington and the Leos.

1869
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 5: You just want to do the final call? This problem.

1870
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 4: You tell me if we're picking just specific call. Yeah, we'

1871
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 4: probably u against a little Yeah, let's go with the

1872
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 4: final call. This is the final call. Bram Weinstein, London

1873
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 4: Fletcher on the call.

1874
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 6: Steps off, good pocket, throw it a little bit, picked up,

1875
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 6: Jeremy Chiz got it.

1876
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 5: That's it.

1877
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 4: Celebrate like it's nineteen ninety one. We're going to the

1878
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 4: NFF Championship game.

1879
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 9: This is the Motown, the home of Motown, and tonight

1880
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 9: they'll be playing the Blues.

1881
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 4: Baby, that's pretty nineteen ninety one. I mean you want

1882
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 4: to talk about an abyss that that operation was in Yeah,

1883
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 4: for the Snyder ownership.

1884
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 5: Yeah and now.

1885
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, look at it as big as book at him.

1886
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 7: I enjoy I enjoy their style. I like I like

1887
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 7: what Brahm and Lennon Fletcher are doing.

1888
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 4: A lot of passion there. Here's Philly and the Rams.

1889
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 4: You want which one you want to do on this one?

1890
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 5: Give it? Do you want to do them both?

1891
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 7: Uh?

1892
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 5: We can do the Barkley one with Merril Reese.

1893
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 7: Oh, here's Meryl Reees on wip hurts of the gun

1894
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 7: on the first down, he goes to Barkley. He prints a.

1895
01:25:58,479 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 5: Tackle, he's on his way.

1896
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 13: Here he goes.

1897
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 3: He's at the forty thirty twenty fifteen ten fun.

1898
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 9: Touch them, say what party?

1899
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 12: Seventy eight guards?

1900
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 4: Well, lock him up, boy, he is a special football player.

1901
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 11: I like that.

1902
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 7: Oh, early, that was good. That was a get a

1903
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 7: little a little quicker lot.

1904
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 4: Oh all right, into the Bills and Ravens we go.

1905
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 4: Let's start with Nance and Romo on the dropped two pointer.

1906
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 7: The whole season essentially comes down to this play for

1907
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:40,560
Speaker 7: these two great teams. Whoa, whoa cliff.

1908
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 4: It got it over the polish shot.

1909
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 3: He had the two point conversion in his hands, Andrews

1910
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 3: did not hold on.

1911
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, oh Baltimore.

1912
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 7: The drop by Henry earlier and just had to drop as.

1913
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 4: Well earlier and for the game even to go possibly overtime,

1914
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 4: and the conditions.

1915
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 13: The balls just to the little bit short.

1916
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 5: You gotta catch that all day.

1917
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 7: It just sucks, brutal you.

1918
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 4: I think Allen goes and gets some three though, I think.

1919
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,719
Speaker 7: To see fun to watch, Yeah, fun to watch.

1920
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 4: I find that this is a w B a L

1921
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 4: radio in Baltimore. Uh, Jerry Sandusky and Rod Woodson on

1922
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 4: the call.

1923
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 10: Lamar in the Shaka takes the snap Bill's rush three.

1924
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 10: Lamar drifting to his left, patiently waiting, waiting. Now he's

1925
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 10: flesh from the pocket to the right, resets his feet,

1926
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 10: fires to the coal line.

1927
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 14: Touch down Isaiah likely well a sliding catch, and now

1928
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 14: it comes down to a two point conversion for the tie.

1929
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 10: The two point conversion. Lamar takes a snap, rolls to

1930
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 10: the right throws complete, no drop it.

1931
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 14: Mark Andrews hit him in their hands, and Mark.

1932
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 10: Andrews dropped at as he fell into the end zone,

1933
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:09,799
Speaker 10: one of the more shorthanded players the Ravens in Ravens history.

1934
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 5: Dropped it. Hit me right in the hands. It's good.

1935
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 4: I was unaware that Rod Woodson, who is so synonymous

1936
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 4: with me as a Steeler, is on Ravens Radio.

1937
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, always in the booth right next to us.

1938
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 5: Very nice.

1939
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 7: It couldn't be nicer, I think as a Steeler. Two.

1940
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's an All NFL seventy five team corner.

1941
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 5: He's he's it.

1942
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 4: You know we were and now he's And I know

1943
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 4: he finished there. He played safety there at the end.

1944
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 4: I get it. But I think it's it feels to

1945
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 4: me like he probably played twice as long in Pittsburgh.

1946
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 4: Maybe I have that too much.

1947
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 7: Ten years in Pittsburgh, four years in Baltimore. He was

1948
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 7: a three time Pro bowler in Baltimore, and he was

1949
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 7: a one, two, three, four, eight time Pro bowler in.

1950
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Speaker 4: Dude, he is a He is on the very short

1951
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 4: list of that game you talk about in the Hall

1952
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 4: of Fame Corners. Oh yeah, he's in that game.

1953
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 7: Five time first team All Pro with the Steelers, zero

1954
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 7: time first team All Pro with the Ravens. And then

1955
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 7: I don't know if you know this or not. I

1956
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 7: didn't remember this. In two thousand and two at the

1957
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 7: age of thirty seven, he led the NFL with eight picks,

1958
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 7: was a Pro Bowler and a first team All Pro

1959
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 7: with the Raid of Raiders.

1960
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 4: He was on that team with Callahan that got to

1961
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,639
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl and lost. The group like after Gruden left.

1962
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 4: Do I have that right?

1963
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Speaker 7: So they went eleven and five, it was Callahan and

1964
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 7: let's see, they lost to the Bucks in the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1965
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 7: So he was All Pro clear at the end at

1966
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 7: thirty seven years of age. Never an All Pro with Baltimore. Yeah,

1967
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 7: so I remember him playing a year with the Niners

1968
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 7: in ninety seven.

1969
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Speaker 4: I don't remember that either.

1970
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 5: So he went.

1971
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 7: So he was ten years straight with the Steelers and

1972
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 7: then at thirty two goes the Niners for one year,

1973
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 7: Baltimore for four, and then the Raiders for the final

1974
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 7: two his career.

1975
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Speaker 4: Man, all right, so much more to come. You listen

1976
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Speaker 4: to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN.

1977
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1978
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1979
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1980
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Speaker 4: All right, there you go, fun program. Congratulations to the

1981
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Speaker 4: Buckeyes winning their ninth national championship, their third in the

1982
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Speaker 4: last quarter century. I was fun to relive it. Thanks

1983
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Speaker 4: Tyvas Powell. Obviously a lot of NFL to get through.

1984
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Speaker 4: As we start to turn our attention to the conference

1985
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Speaker 4: championship games, we'll do that tomorrow on the program. The

1986
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Speaker 4: next level is coming up next. Thanks for listening, everybody.

1987
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1988
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1989
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