WEBVTT - Scott Vincent

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. We come to

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<v Speaker 1>you every Wednesday. I am your host, Claude Harmon. This

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<v Speaker 1>week's guest Scott Vincent, been playing the last two years

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<v Speaker 1>on Live and I think it's one of the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cool, feel good stories. Here's a guy that was

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<v Speaker 1>playing the Japan Tour, had status in Asia, won a tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>got into the first live event in London last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I spent the last two years playing his golf

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<v Speaker 1>on Live. But I think there's been so many stories

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<v Speaker 1>and so much stuff written about money and excess and

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<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff. But I think Scott's story is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the stories that doesn't get talked about. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot didn't have big time status and wanted to try

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<v Speaker 1>and use live as an opportunity to play in better

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<v Speaker 1>tournaments and play against some of the best players in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. And that's what he's done. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>breakout year this year. He'll be playing on Live next year.

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<v Speaker 1>So he has a very unique story on how he

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<v Speaker 1>got to professional golf from Zimbabwe. But before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to a really really cool interview with Scott Vincent. I

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed it and I think you will too. Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>let me see if I've got this straight. Born in Zimbabwe,

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<v Speaker 1>live in Colorado. Up until two years ago, you're playing

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<v Speaker 1>on the Japan Tour. There are strange journeys that people

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<v Speaker 1>get on to play this game, but competitively. And you

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<v Speaker 1>played golf, U College, Golf, Virginia Tech. So you've been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of all over the place, spend some time on

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<v Speaker 1>the Asian Tour. In the last two years you've spent

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<v Speaker 1>on Live but the journey to get to where you

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<v Speaker 1>are now Zimbabwe believe it or not. A rich history

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<v Speaker 1>of Nicky Price, one of the greats of professional golf.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you get out of Zimbabwe and first of

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<v Speaker 1>all get to Virginia Tech. We got to start there.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey yeah, I mean Nick Price had a huge influence

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<v Speaker 3>in Zimbabwe golf and I was part of his academy

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<v Speaker 3>growing up and that that played a huge part in

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<v Speaker 3>my development coming through. Amazing coach called Roger Bayless who

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<v Speaker 3>helped get us all started, and just one of those

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<v Speaker 3>guys that did it for the love of the game.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't care that he made nothing from it. He

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<v Speaker 3>was just happy to pour into and yeah, help help

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<v Speaker 3>get all the fundamentals right, help help develop us young

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<v Speaker 3>kids coming through, and just anyone that had a passion

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<v Speaker 3>and was willing to work, he was happy to give

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<v Speaker 3>the time. So a huge I give a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>credit for him and getting my career going.

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<v Speaker 4>From there.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a connection with Virginia Tech, so I was

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<v Speaker 3>probably the fifth Zimbabwan to go there. Brendan Deong is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the better known guys that went there, but

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<v Speaker 3>the McDonald brothers myself, Sean Farrell was another one. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Brendan's obviously the top guy that made it from Virginia

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<v Speaker 3>Tech onto the PGA and had an amazing career, And

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<v Speaker 3>so that was kind of the connection. But how I

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<v Speaker 3>got scouted was through the Orange Bowl that happens every

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<v Speaker 3>year in December, Okay, just a great spot for international

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<v Speaker 3>kids to come and play and get some exposure and

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<v Speaker 3>see college coaches come down and have a look. And

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<v Speaker 3>so that's where the coach saw me and obviously like

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<v Speaker 3>what he saw and wanted me to come out.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a big, big move to come from Zim

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<v Speaker 1>to Virginia Tech, Because I mean that is a law.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, South Africa's a long way away. Zimbabwe's can

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<v Speaker 1>almost seem like it's even further away. Was there a

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<v Speaker 1>little culture shock when you got to play college golf?

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<v Speaker 1>You're playing Division one, You're playing in a big program.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Virginia Tech has a massive athletic program as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it take you a while to get adjusted?

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<v Speaker 4>It was a huge shift.

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<v Speaker 3>The culture of the food, the people, just how they

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<v Speaker 3>studied as well. Like I never had a computer growing up,

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<v Speaker 3>so everything's done on a computer. So I got my

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<v Speaker 3>first computer, had to learn how to type, spent the

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<v Speaker 3>first year basically just trying to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 3>use this thing. And then yeah, I mean, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>college was amazing. Like like you said, Virginia Tech has

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<v Speaker 3>a huge athletic program, and obviously golf has been fairly

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<v Speaker 3>successful too, but yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved I loved every moment that I had at

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<v Speaker 3>Virginia Tech. And funny story because it ties in with

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<v Speaker 3>liv golf, is my very first college tournament was at

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<v Speaker 3>rich Harvest Farms.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, that lives played the last two years.

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<v Speaker 3>Played there the last two years, and obviously coming from

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<v Speaker 3>Zimbabwe where the courses are very different to playing this course,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a really strong, big golf course that can

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<v Speaker 3>host a major, you know. Essentially, I remember coming off

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<v Speaker 3>of that tournament calling my dad and saying, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm good enough to play college golf.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I should come home.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe because of the golf, Because of.

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<v Speaker 4>The golf course.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was just so big, and I hadn't played

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<v Speaker 3>a golf course like that where you're not hitting wedge

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<v Speaker 3>into every single hole. It's like now you're hitting four, five,

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<v Speaker 3>six signs or woods into holes. And it was just

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<v Speaker 3>something that I and even now as a professional, you

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<v Speaker 3>play that course and you have a better respect for

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<v Speaker 3>it because of how tough it cam play. So funny

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<v Speaker 3>that then we go back and play it as a

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<v Speaker 3>live player now and okay, it feels a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>different because you've gotten used to the style and your

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<v Speaker 3>prep works different. Maybe you developed a bit more as

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<v Speaker 3>a player, and yeah, it's just kind of done a

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<v Speaker 3>full circle, which is quite funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So you turn prone twenty fifteen. Did you go to

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<v Speaker 1>Q school and the usual routes that everybody tries to

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<v Speaker 1>take you try and go, you try to get on

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<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour. If you don't get on PGA Tour,

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to get on corn Fair, corn Ferry, go

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<v Speaker 1>to Europe Asia. What was which qualifiers and qualifying schools

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<v Speaker 1>did you go to?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so first off, I wanted to do the typical route,

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<v Speaker 3>go through corn Ferry, went to Q School, got through

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<v Speaker 3>I think pre quality, then didn't get through first and

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<v Speaker 3>so it's like now what? And so I was playing

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of mini tour stuff and picked up very

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<v Speaker 3>quickly that this is not what I wanted to do

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<v Speaker 3>and just or not play on mini tours. I needed

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<v Speaker 3>to play a full season somewhere and just by chance,

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<v Speaker 3>a buddy reached out to me and said, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to do Asian Tour Q School, you should consider it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, nah, I want to be in America.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've spent time in America. That's where the

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<v Speaker 3>best are. I want to be out here. I was like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got nothing else to do in January. Let me

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<v Speaker 3>go and give it a shot. Go win first stays

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<v Speaker 3>and finished fourth in the final stage of Q School.

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<v Speaker 3>Full talk art now and playing out there. Amazing players,

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<v Speaker 3>huge culture change as well, out of your comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 1>And very different. I mean Asia. I think out of

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<v Speaker 1>all of the tours, scott probably has the most diverse

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<v Speaker 1>types of golf courses, types of grass, types of conditions

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<v Speaker 1>that you're com playing. I mean to me, the knock

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<v Speaker 1>on the PGA Tour and the corn Firy Tour has

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<v Speaker 1>always been but I think the golf is very similar. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're always going to play in pretty good conditions, You're

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<v Speaker 1>always going to play in pretty good weather. And back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day when I when I started playing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>started working and working with players. I went to work

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<v Speaker 1>on the European Tour and Trevor Immlman was, Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had him on the podcast. He's one of my good friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor was the first person I work but back then

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<v Speaker 1>it was Trevor Adam Scott, Sergio Garcia, Ian Poulter was

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<v Speaker 1>they were choosing Europe as a way to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>cut their teeth, and I thought the same thing again, Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to learn how to travel, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to learn a lot of different golf courses, different

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<v Speaker 1>weather conditions. But Asia is a completely different kind of

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<v Speaker 1>That's a whole nother. Like you said, the culture shock

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<v Speaker 1>of the travel, the culture shock of the food there is.

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<v Speaker 1>There is so much more I think to being a

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<v Speaker 1>competitive professional golfer and making it then what people think

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<v Speaker 1>it is. And I think one of the great things

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<v Speaker 1>about going and playing time. I mean, Brooks kept a

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks played in Europe. He didn't take the traditional route,

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<v Speaker 1>he missed in the US, didn't get his US card,

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<v Speaker 1>missed European Tour school, and then got onto the Challenge Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you feel like those type of experiences did

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<v Speaker 1>for you and how have they helped your development not

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<v Speaker 1>only as a player, Scott, but as a person as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it has a huge impact. It just

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<v Speaker 3>it opens your mind up and you play against different

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<v Speaker 3>people with different styles, and like you said, the foods

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff are just nothing that we're used to in America.

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<v Speaker 3>And to be honest, like I love it, I miss

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<v Speaker 3>it at times. The camaraderie of the tour. It's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the friendliest tours I've played on. But like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you're playing on golf courses where you have

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<v Speaker 3>no idea what you're going to. It could be perfectly

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<v Speaker 3>fine in pristine, amazing or one of the words golf

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<v Speaker 3>courses you are gone to. But regardless of that, it

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<v Speaker 3>was you know, I'm here for a reason. I've got

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<v Speaker 3>to figure that out. I've got to come play my best,

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<v Speaker 3>give my best effort and learn something and try and

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<v Speaker 3>put a good result in And so that that was

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<v Speaker 3>the cool part of that is that we all did

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<v Speaker 3>that together. We all kind of jumped on similar flights

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<v Speaker 3>off we went, stayed in random places who knows where,

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<v Speaker 3>and just got on with it. There wasn't much to

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<v Speaker 3>complain about it. We just we just kind of plodded along.

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<v Speaker 3>That's we were all on the same boat, which was cool,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there weren't these big names or little names.

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<v Speaker 3>It was we were all doing the same thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>yeah that what that does is it just develops you

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<v Speaker 3>as a person as a player. You learn a lot

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<v Speaker 3>about yourself and it develops your game. Of course, you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to learn different shots, different different ways to play.

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<v Speaker 3>And Asia Asia really helped with that. And and through Asia,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I got access to the European Tour as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And you Rookie of the Year in twenty sixteen on

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<v Speaker 1>the Asian Tour. So you come out of college, you

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<v Speaker 1>miss where you want to play. Everybody wants to play

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<v Speaker 1>on the PGA Tour. Everybody wants to play in America.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where the best players play. But you say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got so a lot of players I think, Scott

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<v Speaker 1>that I find interesting is they don't do what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Their dream is to go, Okay, I want to play

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<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour. I don't make it on the PGA Tour. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to play the corn Fairy. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't meet those two targets and those two goals, then

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen so many players say okay, well everything now

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<v Speaker 1>is is a come down, right, Everything now is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of it's kind of beneath me because I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was better than this, and I really don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be And I see a lot of players in go

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<v Speaker 1>they get status somewhere else, but because they didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>status where they wanted to, they struggle because it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like they self sabotage. They were like, oh, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>too good to be here, so I'm actually not going

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and do what you did. Is okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Asia now, I want to play in America.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to play on the PGA Tour. But what

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<v Speaker 1>you did was you went out and you're Rookie of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year in twenty sixteen. So you go and have

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<v Speaker 1>a really good, solid opening year of professional golf. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like that first year on the Asian

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<v Speaker 1>Tour where you were Rookie of the year. What did

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<v Speaker 1>you learn about yourself and what was the jump from Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I played college golf, played four were you there for

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<v Speaker 1>four years? So four years college golf Division one, So

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<v Speaker 1>you know how to travel, you know how to do

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<v Speaker 1>all of the stuff. But then you go and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the success that you wanted to have them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, by getting onto the PGA Tour, getting on

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<v Speaker 1>the corn ferry, you go to Asia. You weren't planning

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<v Speaker 1>even to go to Asia. Then you go out, you

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<v Speaker 1>get through first stage, you win first stage, win first stage,

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<v Speaker 1>and then basically finished top five. So now you're fully exempt.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you feel like was the jump from college

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<v Speaker 1>golf to professional golf that you kind of noticed and went, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is different now, is it? Or is it just golf?

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<v Speaker 1>And you go into the mindset of saying, listen, even

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<v Speaker 1>though this is Asian Tour, it's just golf.

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<v Speaker 3>It I mean, in the simplest form, it is right,

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<v Speaker 3>it is just golf. But I think from a personal level,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to start owning it yourself. It's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>here's where I'm at. What's the best I can do

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<v Speaker 3>with where I'm at? And how am I going to

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<v Speaker 3>get to those big dreams that I have? Obviously the

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<v Speaker 3>plan A didn't work out, But as we know, like

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<v Speaker 3>as we've seen with so many other players, there's so

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<v Speaker 3>many different ways to get back there, and different journeys

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<v Speaker 3>develop different people differently, And mine's being a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>different in that I've gone through Asia, tried a bit

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<v Speaker 3>in Europe that didn't work out so great, come back

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<v Speaker 3>to Asia, gone to Japan. But it's just been a

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<v Speaker 3>cool journey of just me learning more about who I

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<v Speaker 3>am and what I am like as a player, and

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<v Speaker 3>how I can continue to figure out ways to optimize

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<v Speaker 3>that and be better. And yeah, like you said that

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<v Speaker 3>first year, I mean it's quite a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and trying to remember a little bit more of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But obviously that was a validating moment in my careers. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we you know, we came to college, we figured that out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we were good enough for college golf. Now it's another

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<v Speaker 3>level up. You know, not many people get to chase

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<v Speaker 3>their dreams at the professional level, and you don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if you're going to be good enough.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously you have big dreams.

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<v Speaker 3>And you want to be good enough, and you're dreaming

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<v Speaker 3>of winning majors and playing at the highest stage. But

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<v Speaker 3>is that going to be a reality. You're not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And so going to Asian Tour maybe getting Work of

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<v Speaker 3>the Year was a little validation. It's like, okay, good,

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<v Speaker 3>that was great. Now how do we move on from that?

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<v Speaker 3>We continue to look at ways to improve and get better.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the few Western players that played in Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the Asian Tour, which is crazy on to itself,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's an entire another world which is golf

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<v Speaker 1>in Japan. And for people that don't know, it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to find a country more obsessed with golf than they

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<v Speaker 1>are in Japan. And the Japanese Tour is very, very specific,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you go into a completely another cultural shock

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<v Speaker 1>of the food in Japan. If you don't speak Japanese,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a struggle. You've got to get yourself around. How

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<v Speaker 1>many years did you play on the Japanese Tour?

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<v Speaker 3>So I did two full seasons out there. Obviously I've

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<v Speaker 3>got a little messed up with COVID and how that

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<v Speaker 3>all works, so two and a half something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I still have full status out there. But honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>Japan's one of my favorite countries. Like once you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of figure out the little things and how to move around,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's one of the simplest, most amazing love the culture, love,

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<v Speaker 3>food's amazing, love so many things about it. It's one

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<v Speaker 3>country and it's big, but it's small, and so the

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<v Speaker 3>travel in and around that is just incredible. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>excited to be going back there in a week's time

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<v Speaker 3>to go and play some bill.

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<v Speaker 1>You go back which tournaments you.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I'm gonna play the there's one called the ab

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<v Speaker 3>ABC event. And then two weeks later I'm playing Doune.

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix on Phoenix fiftieth anniversary of the Dunlap Phoenix. Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>is going, Brooks is Goings is going, He's won it twice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's playing a golf in Japan like on tour

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously you're not Japanese, there's a language barrier golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the look of the golf courses Japan that

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<v Speaker 1>dormant to where everything is burnt out, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>greens and the t's are bright, bright green. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the way some of the golf courses in Japan look.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah they're they're pristine, like they take so much

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<v Speaker 3>pride in doing everything one hundred percent. Some of the

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<v Speaker 3>best greens I've put it on and played on their

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<v Speaker 3>courses are incredible, and so it to me. I loved

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<v Speaker 3>it because it felt like right, this is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a slightly.

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<v Speaker 4>Smaller version of the PGA Tour.

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<v Speaker 3>And so good conditions, great conditions. You know, tons of

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<v Speaker 3>people watching, so you getting used to the crowds.

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<v Speaker 1>Of television, big stars in Japan, I mean, the the

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<v Speaker 1>players in Japan that are good are rock stars in Japan, phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they are. I mean, And it's interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>you said that because out of all of the tours,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's funny Adam Scott has said to Scotty loves

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<v Speaker 1>going to Japan, right, I mean, obviously the unicloth thing

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<v Speaker 1>now it helps, but Scotty's always gone and played in Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting that you mentioned that playing professional golf

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<v Speaker 1>in Japan is probably the closest you can get to

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<v Speaker 1>playing on the PGA Tour because the crowds are huge,

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<v Speaker 1>there's television every week, there are big superstars. All the

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturers have trucks, everybody's logoed up. So I never thought

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<v Speaker 1>about that, but that playing in Japan is probably as

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<v Speaker 1>close to being on the PGA Tour from an experience

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<v Speaker 1>as a player as you can get.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And so seeing that and tasting it's like, this is perfect,

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<v Speaker 3>This is amazing preparation for I'm trying to get to

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<v Speaker 3>and just loved it, you know, it depends an amazing place.

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<v Speaker 1>You got your first win in twenty twenty one, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>What was different? So you get your first really that's

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<v Speaker 1>your big that's your first big professional wine. I always

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<v Speaker 1>ask players did you need to play as good as

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<v Speaker 1>you thought you did to win your first tournament? Or

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<v Speaker 1>was the experience different? Because I think so many players

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<v Speaker 1>Scott feel like the only way they're going to win

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<v Speaker 1>golf tournaments is just to come in all guns, blaze

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<v Speaker 1>and shoot four rounds in the sixties and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>going to be this amazing m to shoot sixty three

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday or do something special? Was the experience afterwards?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have this kind of thought process saying Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't as hard as I thought it was?

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<v Speaker 4>Right on?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you it up so much in your mind and

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<v Speaker 3>you think it has to be absolutely perfect. And I

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<v Speaker 3>found that a lot of times just golf in general,

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<v Speaker 3>there's always a testing point at some point during the

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<v Speaker 3>round and which way is that going to swing? Are

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<v Speaker 3>you going to let it swing in your favor or

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<v Speaker 3>against because you're going to get tested at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously the nerves and everything and like that's all that's

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<v Speaker 3>all part of it. But at some point during the

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<v Speaker 3>round you're going to face something that's really uncomfortable, really challenging,

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<v Speaker 3>really difficult, and what are you going to do with that?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you going to let it.

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<v Speaker 3>Linger and affect the way that you're going to finish

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<v Speaker 3>the day or you just this is all part of

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<v Speaker 3>the process, and so yeah, absolutely, it was just it

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<v Speaker 3>was just one of those days where the whole experience

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<v Speaker 3>and just being in that was just incredible. Obviously, the

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<v Speaker 3>golf kind of followed, and I did play really good golf.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was. It was cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to make a six footer on the last

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<v Speaker 3>hole to win it, and I couldn't really feel the putter.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so nervous and stroked it and I went

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<v Speaker 3>in and it was It was amazing, and my wife

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<v Speaker 3>was there and so we we had a special moment together. It. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was like you said, it wasn't like I had

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<v Speaker 3>to play absolutely prep golf.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just I had to be there. I just

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<v Speaker 4>had to experience it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just had to do my opining almost get out

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<v Speaker 3>of the way and just let it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Game when you get your first win as a professional, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what does it do for you mentally? Because you've been

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<v Speaker 1>basically your entire life has been about that moment, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've done all these things to make sure it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>When it finally happens, what's that experience like for you personally?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you just kind of go? Do you exhale? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it validation? What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>I think at that time it did feel like a

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<v Speaker 3>sigh of relief. It's like, man, I've knocked on the

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<v Speaker 3>store so many times and it hasn't opened it finally,

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, But I think over the years or a

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 3>few years on, it's just like this, this game that

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 3>we're chasing is just so fickle. It like comes and

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:11.160
<v Speaker 3>goes and comes and goes, and it's like if if

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<v Speaker 3>everything's about winning or losing, it's just it's that just

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<v Speaker 3>seems pointless to me. And so what I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>do is make this more about the person I'm becoming.

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, who am I becoming as a player and

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<v Speaker 3>as a person. And so that's how I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>judge it more now, whereas back then I was all

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<v Speaker 3>about winning, because you know, for the longest time, who's

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<v Speaker 3>the longest person that's finished top ten almost every single

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 3>weeks and it hasn't won. You know that, everyone said, Scott Viciica,

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 3>but and so it was. It was just nice to

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.359
<v Speaker 3>get past that and put that to bed and just

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<v Speaker 3>move on with me becoming the person undercoming.

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<v Speaker 1>And you won three times in Japan, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>tournament that qualified you to get into the Open Championship

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two. Yeah, and then so you go

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.439
<v Speaker 1>through like you said, you go through COVID and then

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:58.440
<v Speaker 1>you go and then not out of nowhere, but Live happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>And we have heard so much over the last two

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 1>years about the money aspect of Live, all of this stuff,

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>all these guys getting the bag. Well, you're one of

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 1>the guys that is the opposite end of the spectrum

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 1>from the Brooks, the DJs, the Brysons, who all got

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<v Speaker 1>a boatload of money, who all made a decision that

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people think was largely based on money.

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Your journey to Live was through the International Series, which

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>lived in a partnership with the Asian Tour to try

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>and have an opportunity for players coming out of Asia

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 1>to get to live. And you won what I think

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it was the week before the first tournament in London.

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>You won an International Series event which qualified I remember,

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean you were thrown in first year on Live,

0:25:55.800 --> 0:26:00.479
<v Speaker 1>three different teams. But the first tournament that Live has

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>in London, I was there. First tease packed, they throw

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:05.679
<v Speaker 1>you out.

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:11.400
<v Speaker 3>With DJ and Phil. Incredible. It's like, who's this guy?

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:13.879
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm thinking as well I can imagine what

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:18.199
<v Speaker 3>everyone else is thinking. So just yeah, amazing. Like for me,

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Live came out of absolutely nowhere. I was playing in

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Japan and I thought, let's go play this one in London.

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 4>Lives so much.

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 3>It's it's a nice person, it's it's in London, my

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 3>sister live, well outside of London, my sister lives there.

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 3>And win that and it's like, oh, you're heading to

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.160
<v Speaker 3>the live of it next week. I'm like, okay, cool,

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 3>what's that? And so yeah, just came out of nowhere.

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Was the decision to say, okay, I've got on to

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>a live event. I can play all eight this year.

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Was that a big decision because I think so many

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>people that are listening, we've heard so much on both sides, right,

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>We've heard the tour side of things, We've heard live

0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>side of things. I actually think people are tired of

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>hearing about it, right because at the end of the day,

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>it's golf, right, but not everybody, not everybody chose to

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>go to Live and it was a money grab for you.

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I talked to Wayde Ormsby about this as well. Who's

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>one of the livers or it's an opportunity for me

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 1>to play and somewhat try and climb up the ladder

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>that guys like DJ and Brooks and Bryson and Phil

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to climb up the ladder. Now, there

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>were times at their career that they did, but there

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>were a lot of guys that I think went to

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Live that have gotten tarnished with this brush that you're

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 1>a sellout. So you're just looking for a place to

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 1>play and trying to find a tour where you can

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>get a foothold, right.

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I you know.

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 3>One of the things is that we want to play

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 3>against the mists in the world, and like in Asia

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 3>and Japan, we don't get to see these guys very often.

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>A couple times a year, Like you said, Dunlap, Phoenix,

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>there might be maybe Ricky Fowler comes over. There's maybe

0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 1>one superstar from the US, but a lot Live gets

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>beat up because everybody says it was worthless. It was worthless.

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>It's worthless. But as a player, you're looking at the

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>caliber of players that have come over to LIVE and

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you're like, wait a minute, I can go play with

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>multiple major champions and currently when Live happens last year,

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at playing against arguably one of, if not

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 1>the best player in the world at the time, Cam Smith.

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>When Cam finally came over and decided to play, DJ Brooks, Bryson, Phil,

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Matt Wolf, all of these guys. You have this opportunity

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>to say, listen, I don't get an opportunity. I can't

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>get on a tour like this unless I qualify for

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour, even Europe now, unless it's the Middle

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>East Swing. You just don't get that quality of people.

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>So I know a lot of people think, oh, the

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Live fields are bullshit and the players aren't any good.

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>But somebody like you, you're looking at that, going, this

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>is an opportunity of a lifetime for me to play

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>against some of the best players in the world. And

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>then they throw you out in the first one and

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>you get paired with Phil who's won six Majors and

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you get paired with DJ, who's arguably i mean Phil's

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>he and Tiger are the best players of his generation.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>DJ's one of the top five best players of his

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>generation and is a superstar. What was that experience like

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>for you? Because you're Scott Vincent from Zimbabwe that lives

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>in Colorado, that plays on the Japanese tour, and then

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>you've got Phil and Dju both flew over on fifty

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>million dollar airplanes. I mean, there's a big difference between

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing and what they're doing.

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like I said, for me, it came out of

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 3>absolute nowhere. I was just playing an Asian door event

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 3>the week before, and next thing I know, I'm paid

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 3>with Phil and DJ, and I'm like, oh, is this

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 3>even happening? Like why is this happening to me? I'd

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 3>happily just play off Hall sixteen somewhere and just carry on.

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 3>But that, like, looking back, that experience is just invaluable.

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 3>You can't you can't put a price tag on that,

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:05.479
<v Speaker 3>Like to hit that first t shot with them, to

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 3>play the way I did, I actually had an amazing

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 3>then I played really well. I think I shut three

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 3>or four under that day, which was incredible under the circumstances.

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 3>And to rub shoulders with these two guys that I've

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 3>only ever seen on TV. I haven't seen them in

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 3>person before, and like, just the whole thing was so cool.

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Was it hard not to fan boy it right and

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>focus on your own game because all of a sudden

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you're playing with one of the greatest players of the

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>modern generation in Phil Mickelson, who's won you know, so

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>many major champions. I mean, he's an icon of the sport.

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And then DJ. You know everything about DJ, how far

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>he hits it, the swag, the whole thing. Is it

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>hard in that situation, when you get thrown into a

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>group like that and a big tournament to focus on

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 1>them and not focus on you because you're, like, man,

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I get to watch Phil Mickelson's short game today up close.

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I get to watch Dustin Johnson in a real tournament,

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>drive it close, right? Is it hard to say, Okay,

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I've got to stay focused on my sub because, like

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>you said, a lot of people go out into that

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>situation and play terrible, right and just go listen. The

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>situation was really big for me. It's a big tournament.

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.479
<v Speaker 1>I never played in a tournament this big, and then

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>they prepare me with you know, former world number one

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and two time major champion and you know Phil Mickelson.

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 4>That's that's not easy, no it yeah it was.

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 3>It was something just I think for me in that moment,

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 3>I was getting very self conscious. So actually I was

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 3>thinking more about myself and how I was going to

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 3>look in front of them, which I wish I was

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 3>more of, Hey, we get to watch this up close

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 3>and upfront, because I think that's a bit of approach

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 3>to learning and watching and trying to take in as much.

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, once we got going and through a couple holes,

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, I golf, it's a golf and you sittle

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 3>right into it and the hardcore you got that.

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I tell players like yourself all the time that are

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>new in that situation. It's always that's the same thing.

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>You're worried about what they're going to think about the

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>way you play. And I tell guys this all the time.

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>They don't give a shit about you. They couldn't care

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>if you shot sixty two or eighty. And that's not

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>that's not being rude about them or rude about you.

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>They just they don't care. They're focused on trying to play,

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and I think a lot of guys in your situation.

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 1>You get into that situation where you get paired with Tiger,

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you get paired with Rory, and you know you're like, oh,

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to embarrass myself and I don't want

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to look bad in front of them. They don't They

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>couldn't care less about your game, And that's hard to

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>think like that, but you have to think like that.

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>To be great, you have to not worry about other

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>people and not care how they play.

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's funny because like I'll go and play a

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 3>pro am with someone and that's exactly what they're thinking

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 3>about me, Like I'm worried about them and how they.

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Don't care less, you're worried about yourself.

0:32:55.960 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so that's exactly how I suppose do it think.

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Being out there for this year or two years now,

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 3>you start to realize that a bit more, that everyone

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 3>is just kind of locked in on what they're doing,

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 3>and like whether you're shoot in sixty two or eighty two,

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 3>it's like whatever, you know, we're going to walk the

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 3>fairways together and have a conversation and carry on with them.

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>They do anything in that round, that first round where

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>you were paired with DJ and Phil where they hit

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>a shot or did something where you went, Okay, I'm

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>in the show now, that's that's different. This is a

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:32.959
<v Speaker 1>different type of player than that I've been around.

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they are phenomenal players. You can't quit.

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 3>DJ's ball striking is absolutely incredible. Like the sound it

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 3>makes coming off the face is just it's just different.

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 3>And you don't hear that definitely not an Asia because

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 3>they're not built like he is.

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>And you certainly don't hear that in Japan either because

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to play with a player. And again, I don't think

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>people everybody that watches competitive golf thinks that the players

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>are interchanged. Right, the golf that's played in Europe is

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the similar golf that's played on the PGA Tour. Right,

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>there are different players. And if you play in Asia

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and then play in Japan, you don't see someone like

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Dustin Johnson who's six foot four, who hits it the

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 1>way that you don't see someone like a Rory McElroy

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>who hits it as far as somebody like Rory hits it.

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 1>You just don't see that in Asia, and you don't

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>see that in Japan. You might see it from a player,

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>but the player isn't really that good. He doesn't have

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>another box of tools in the toolbox. He Yeah, Okay.

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>You see players in Asia and Japan that hit it

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 1>a long way. You don't see players like DJ hit

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it a long way that have been number one in

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the world, that have won multiple major championships, like a Rory,

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 1>like a Bill, like these icons of the game. And

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>so when you see somebody like DJ, you just go

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Does that make you go, Okay, I need to hit

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 1>it further? I need to get in better shape. Do

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I need to try? I mean, because there is that thing, Scott,

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>when you play all of a sudden you come from

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:07.280
<v Speaker 1>playing Japan and Asia to live to where you're playing

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:08.840
<v Speaker 1>against some of the best players in the world, do

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.839
<v Speaker 1>you kind of go is it imposter syndrome? And you're like, oh, man,

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 1>am I supposed to be out here? Am I as

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>good as these guys? Am I going to stick to

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>my own game? Or am I now going to try

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 1>and do something that I can't do? That isn't me?

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's only human nature to kind

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 3>of go that way a little bit and start comparing

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 3>yourself to everyone else in it, and I found, at

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 3>least for me, it's just so deadly like if I

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 3>start comparing, like why why can't I wedge it like

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 3>Karen Smith or or public Karon Smith or or I mean,

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 3>he does so many things really well, and it's just

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 3>like you can get in this hole where it's like

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm not good, and then you start forgetting what you

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 3>do well. And so yes, there's a time and a

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 3>place for picking things that they do and asking them

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 3>questions and trying to absorb as much information and maybe

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 3>learn a shut or two. But at the same time,

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 3>I think it's really important to also realize what you

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 3>do and kind of stick to your game plan and

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 3>your way that you operate around the both course and

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 3>keep that kind of.

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 4>Close to home, because I've gone.

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 3>Both ways and disappeared off down a rabbit hole where

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 3>it's like I'm just not built to do that, or

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand how to do that. Now maybe down

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 3>the road I will, but just no, so let me

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 3>not compromise everything that I'm doing just to try and

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 3>figure out something that someone else is doing. So that

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.280
<v Speaker 3>comparison thing is is I've got to be very careful

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 3>of that, but you can definitely learn a lot.

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.439
<v Speaker 1>So three live teams. Last year you were on torqu yep,

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 1>you're on.

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I was on iron Heads, I believe at one point,

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 3>and then I think I started on Smash but she won,

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 3>was the captain for Smash. Yeah, something like that.

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 4>That was before Brooks came Well brooksk.

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>So now we cut to the chase twenty twenty three.

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>You go to the irons Heads, Kevin Nah, See Wan Kim, yourself,

0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Danny Lee four point seven million dollars this year. And

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>if I'd have told you last year, Scott that you

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>were going to have the year that you've had on

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Live this year, because I don't think again, Yes, there's

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money that live in the Saudis have

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>been brought into professional golf. And yes, you can make

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the argument that guys like DJ and Brooks and Phil

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>and Bryson that they didn't need that kind of money

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>anyway because they'd already had these amazing careers and they

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 1>were already multimillionaires and.

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 4>Stuff like that.

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>That was not the case for you, Right, You're not

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>flying around net jets every week, you're not building you know,

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:36.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand square foot houses, right, that's not the golf

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>world that you live in. So to have this opportunity

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to come to make almost five million dollars this year,

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>to be a full year on a live team, regardless

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.839
<v Speaker 1>of which side of the fence people are that are

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>listening that, whether they're pro live anti live. Your experience

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>and what did you like about the opportunity and what

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>did you feel was different about the live opportunity that

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:05.240
<v Speaker 1>was different than having full status on the Asian Tour,

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that was different than having full status in Japan? How

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>is the experience different for people that are listening that

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>having been a part of.

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 3>It, Yeah, I think for me the biggest thing is

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 3>that it's completely out of my comfort zone. Like I've

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I understand Asia, I understand Japan, and there's a comfort

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 3>level to that. This this whole live thing for me

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 3>as a player and a person is it's very uncomfortable

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 3>because it's new territory.

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 1>You're playing in the US, you're playing big tournaments, huge

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 1>outside the US, You're playing probably in front of more

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>people than you normally play. For me, I mean they

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:40.760
<v Speaker 1>get big, big crowds in Japan.

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But and the courses and the style of courses,

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 3>and just how demanding it is, just off the tee

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 3>into the green, on the greens, around the greens. It

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 3>was just more about am I going to embrace this

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 3>or am I going to kind of shy away from it?

0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 3>And so we've been working really hard and just trying

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 3>to embrace these moments because as a player and as

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 3>a person, you're going to face these things that may

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 3>make you feel very uncomfortable throughout your life. And I

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 3>think this year, more than ever, I've embraced some of

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 3>that a little bit more and just kind of faced it,

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:14.839
<v Speaker 3>which doesn't guarantee that you're going to pull it off

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:17.279
<v Speaker 3>and do it perfectly fine, but it's going to help

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 3>you down the road. And so this year was just

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 3>facing a lot of those uncomfortable situations and moments. And Saudi,

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 3>for example, was a hugely uncomfortable week for me.

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, as you go into the final individual round

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:36.240
<v Speaker 1>or tournament of the year and Live was in Jedda,

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>the top twenty four guys on Live are guaranteed their

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>spot for the following year, and then everybody else kind

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>of goes into this kind of pool of players. Some

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 1>of the I mean, listen I think a lot of

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 1>people also don't understand the inner workings of Live. There

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>are players that have multiple year contracts, guys like Brooks DJ,

0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>they're captains, they've got there, they've got contracts for a

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>long time. Someone like yourself, you're on a year to

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>year opportunity to try and keep your playing privileges. So

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:11.320
<v Speaker 1>for you to finish in Jedda on Sunday and basically

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:16.880
<v Speaker 1>play your way into another year on Live, it's a massive,

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>massive thing for someone like you at this point in

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:21.280
<v Speaker 1>your career.

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, like I was saying, that day was just

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 3>very uncomfortable. One of the things that I've tried not

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 3>to do is look at the school board, look at

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 3>where I'm at. You know, I felt like I've played

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 3>really well this year, but looking back, I was around

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 3>thirty first, and thirty first. To get to twenty fourth

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:39.399
<v Speaker 3>as a massive jump that you need to make going

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:43.720
<v Speaker 3>into the final event and obviously have a great second

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 3>round where I'm now in the second last group, but

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.360
<v Speaker 3>again I don't know where I stand over all, and

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what I need to do. And I

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 3>get pulled into an interview and the first thing they

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 3>bring up is you sitting right now at twenty fourth position,

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, great, the whole thing that I've been

0:40:58.520 --> 0:40:59.919
<v Speaker 3>trying to do the whole year, it just gets camp

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 3>is right there accidentally. But again it was perfect for

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 3>me because then I had to deal with that as well,

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 3>and so now I know exactly what I need to

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 3>do and where I need to finish. Now I've got

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.879
<v Speaker 3>to go play the next day and sleep that night

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 3>and just deal with everything that comes along with that.

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 1>So No, Saudi golf course is tricky. It's tricky because

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a desert style golf course. If you hit it offline,

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.320
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to have a good lie. It's wide open,

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>it's very very windy, and on Sunday when you shot

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 1>or under, it's blowing twenty to thirty. And you get

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 1>out on those holes near the water. Thirteen, it's always

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:45.240
<v Speaker 1>haling off the right. There's water right, it's dead left. Sixteen,

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>it's always haling off the left. What did you learn

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.399
<v Speaker 1>about yourself? Because then your back's up against the wall right,

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:54.280
<v Speaker 1>So then you know exactly what you have to do, right, Okay,

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.359
<v Speaker 1>So you know that if you're on the bubble going

0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>into Sunday, So you're the twenty fourth guy. You know

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that if you're inside the top twenty four next year,

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you have full status on life, which is a huge

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 1>opportunity right now, the amount of money they're playing for

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to have another opportunity to play, it's massive for someone

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>at this stage of your career, coming from where you've

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 1>come from, right, coming from the tours that you've come from,

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 1>playing where you've been playing. So how do you go

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 1>about that mentally because you're trying not to get caught

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 1>up in the moment.

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you're trying everything you can, and the moment's there,

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 3>like you can't really avoid it. So again it's just

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 3>am I going to embrace this? Am I going to

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:42.839
<v Speaker 3>learn from it regardless of how the result comes out

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 3>or shy away from it? So you know that night

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 3>was it was a tricky night to get good rest.

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.919
<v Speaker 3>But again you kind of remember in your your bank

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 3>of memories that I've played well with not very much sleep.

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 3>So that's okay, And yeah, we just I just went

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 3>into the day exactly like I would treat it any

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 3>other day. Hit my routines take up half the putting

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:07.399
<v Speaker 3>greed to do all my putting drills and then yeah,

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 3>just just cruise through the routines and play. And again,

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't look at school boards, or I try not

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 3>to because I find that just gets me caught up

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 3>in results and all over the place. So I'm just

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 3>playing and I don't really know where I'm at. I

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 3>just know that this is important right here, So let's

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 3>start it in. Let's the best shot that we can.

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:28.760
<v Speaker 3>And we're not trying to play safe or push or anything.

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 3>We're just playing golf. And so I played amazing like

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.439
<v Speaker 3>that whole day, and like looking back and dissecting that round,

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 3>it's like the cool thing was is that under those circumstances,

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 3>like a few more puts go in and it's like,

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm actually at a chance where I could win.

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you had it on the background, you had a

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>legit chance to win. I mean because the margins were

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.839
<v Speaker 1>so tight. There was only really there was probably ten

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 1>or fifteen guys within like one or two shots of

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 1>a lead. Right, And it was a tough day Brooks.

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>That wasn't he was the leader. He shot zero the

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:02.839
<v Speaker 1>day before. He didn't really have his best stuff until late.

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>We made puts when he needed to do. You say

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 1>to yourself Okay, I've got a game plan, I've got

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>an idea of what I'm going to try and do.

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Did you have a target score in mind? Did you

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 1>have any of that or were you just basically saying, listen,

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm just taking each each each shot, each hole as

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>they come.

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just each shot as it comes. For me, that

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 3>seems to be the best way to go. Didn't really

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:27.440
<v Speaker 3>have a target number or anything, and it was just

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 3>less play because like so often is like the round

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 3>cannot start the way you want, but it can finish

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 3>even better than you expect, or vice versa. You know,

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 3>you can start off hot and then it can kind

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.919
<v Speaker 3>of just get all funky and you just not really

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 3>finish and take advantage of the holes that you should.

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.320
<v Speaker 3>So for me, it was just we just play. We

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 3>just played like this was going to be a great

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 3>day of learning, regardless whether it worked out or didn't,

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 3>and grateful it did. And it came down to Sergio's

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 3>part on the last hole, which I couldn't watch. I

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:58.839
<v Speaker 3>don't want to be standing there wishing something on someone else.

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 3>I just got away and and eventually the news comes

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 3>that it was good enough.

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.240
<v Speaker 4>So just amazing.

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of people that the team element

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>of live. They don't get it. They don't understand it.

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>They think it's a gimmick. They don't think it's real.

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Your experience of being on the iron Heads this year,

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>what did you like about it and what is the

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 1>team part about it? How is that different and helpful?

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe in a way that you didn't.

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Think it's a special bond. You actually like your team

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:39.239
<v Speaker 3>is like your family in a way. Like the one

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 3>thing I really loved about the Ironheads and Kevin and

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 3>his captain Sye is he just he let us do

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 3>our golf on our own, like he knows that we're

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 3>all good enough and he doesn't need to coach us

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 3>and tell us what to do. He just let us

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 3>do our own thing, which I really respect and I

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 3>think that was great. But at the same time, he

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 3>could bring it in and we could go and play

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:59.479
<v Speaker 3>games together, and we could compete and keep it fun,

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:03.280
<v Speaker 3>and we went out for dinners, we hung out together.

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:05.839
<v Speaker 3>It was you know, obviously a.

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Little bit like I'm guessing, like college golf again, a

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 1>lot to where you're traveling, kind of staying in the

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 1>same hotels. I mean, to me, that's one of been

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite things about the experience on Live,

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>which has been vastly different than the PGA Tour, is

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.320
<v Speaker 1>it does feel a little bit Live. To me, feels

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot more like when I started traveling in Europe

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>on the European Tour in the early two thousands. It

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 1>was a traveling circus. It was the same group of people,

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and you mentioned Asia's a little bit like that, because

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:36.760
<v Speaker 1>you don't have this massive disparag difference between the superstars

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and everybody else, right. I mean that's the thing in

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 1>the US that people don't realize the PGA Tour. It's

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:45.439
<v Speaker 1>very different because the superstars, you don't really if you're

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>not a superstar, you don't see these guys, right, You're

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:50.799
<v Speaker 1>they're certainly not on the same planes as you are, right,

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 1>They're not on you know, whatever airline you're taking, because

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 1>they're either flying with all the other superstars private, So

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 1>there's a big difference. And I think the cool thing

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:05.799
<v Speaker 1>about Live for me is it does feel like a

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 1>traveling circus, like we're all big, one big family, and

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 1>that part of it's fun.

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:13.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so fun, Like we joke around together, there's

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 3>internal jokes, and then when you feel another member coming

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 3>and making fun of when you're defending them, and so

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 3>it's like, it's just an amazing atmosphere and I think

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:24.640
<v Speaker 3>I think it's really cool and special and it's a

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:28.319
<v Speaker 3>game changer because golf can be very lonely. You do

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 3>a lot of things on your own. It's an individual sport,

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 3>that's just the way it is. But this team thing

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 3>just adds a different level to it.

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you watch as you're trying to not watch your

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>own score, are you watching the team score?

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, watching how the team's doing, seeing, hey, how's Danny

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 3>playing today? Okay, good, that's great. Let's you know, let's

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 3>see we can help out or whatever. And there was

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 3>something Danny talked about when he had his win in Arizona.

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't worried about himself. He was just seeing how

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:57.320
<v Speaker 3>the team was doing and we were moving up nicely

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 3>and that fired him up. So yeah, it's it's cool.

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 3>It's something else to chick well outside of yourself, which

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:02.720
<v Speaker 3>is great.

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>So twenty twenty four, do you reset your goals because

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 1>obviously now you've had two full seasons on lift, so

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you played all eight the first year, you played fourteen.

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 1>This year you'll play a full schedule next year. The

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 1>mindset of going into that first live tournament in London

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 1>to where you get thrown in the deep end with

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:26.360
<v Speaker 1>DJ and Phil and you're thinking, Wow, this is way different.

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Is the mindset now Okay I feel comfortable. Do you

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like, okay, twenty four is my opportunity to say, okay, now,

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe I feel like I can win, Maybe I feel

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like I can win more than one time? Is that

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the mindset moving forward? Do you adjust based off of

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:47.839
<v Speaker 1>the two years you've just had.

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 3>I think overall, you know, there's still these big dreams

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:55.320
<v Speaker 3>and goals that I have personally from a golf standpoint,

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 3>and so it's just about am I continuing to move

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:04.239
<v Speaker 3>closer to those? And I think when I stopped trying

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 3>to learn and get better, that's when I think my

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 3>golf career is probably coming to an end. And I

0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:10.440
<v Speaker 3>think right now, I've just got tons of learning and

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 3>growth to do. You know, I'm always trying to find

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:16.359
<v Speaker 3>ways to get better. I'm like this off season, I'm

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:18.880
<v Speaker 3>so excited for it, Like I can't wait to see

0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:21.719
<v Speaker 3>the changes that I can make going into next year.

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:25.399
<v Speaker 3>And I think, just for me, just I'm just trying

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 3>to get better each and every day. You know, we

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:29.439
<v Speaker 3>can learn, we can grow, we can we can find

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 3>ways to improve, and that that's what I'm going to do.

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 3>We we do have some goals that we would like

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 3>to achieve, and I think people would call that crazy,

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:40.200
<v Speaker 3>but I think I've got to shoot high, you know,

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:41.280
<v Speaker 3>I've got to shoot for staff.

0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:43.440
<v Speaker 4>So we'll see that where that ends up.

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Lastly, you you pot with the flag in. I have

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 1>no idea how you pot with the flag it Fitzpat

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Matt Fitzpatrick Fitz does it? Yeah, you pot with the

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:55.280
<v Speaker 1>flag in from every distance?

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 1>What I mean? Bryson, We've I've talked to his crazy

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 1>ass about this as well. The rest of us look

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:05.839
<v Speaker 1>at that that aren't flag in putters and go, what

0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the hell are you doing? What is the thought process

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:09.160
<v Speaker 1>behind the flag in?

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:12.239
<v Speaker 3>I think it started in COVID when we had to

0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:16.319
<v Speaker 3>leave the flags in, and then I started hearing some

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 3>stats backing it up that you actually make more putts.

0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 3>And then I started to find that it was something

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 3>smaller for me to aim at, and so aiming at

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:28.920
<v Speaker 3>the pin smaller than the hole, and so it kind

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 3>of lucked in my focus a little bit.

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Never thought about that one and that one. Okay, that's

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:37.640
<v Speaker 1>that's the first real answer anyone's given me. Okay, all

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the numbers Bryson tried to give me all that bullshit.

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 1>It was just like, you're crazy, right, But the focus

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:48.720
<v Speaker 1>from and I would imagine from three five those short

0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 1>range puts leaving the the flag in it does give

0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you an extra focus that you're just going to try

0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and hit the middle of the flag right in the

0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:59.799
<v Speaker 1>cup right. You worry about it bouncing it out.

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 3>It's happened one time, but from what distance.

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:03.759
<v Speaker 4>It was a longer putt.

0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 3>It was like a forty foot putt and it was

0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:08.760
<v Speaker 3>forty miler, no wind, and it just timed it perfectly

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:12.600
<v Speaker 3>when it flag is ending back. So it's only happened once.

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 3>If it does get really windy, sometimes I do take

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 3>it out, especially on those shorter ones, but I think

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:20.520
<v Speaker 3>I think it's been good to me, so I'm gonna

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 3>keep going with it.

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Well. One of the cool things about talking to you,

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:25.399
<v Speaker 1>and one of the reasons why I wanted to talk

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:27.040
<v Speaker 1>to you, is I think over the last two years

0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:31.799
<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of divisiveness with regards to live

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 1>versus the PGA tour and the fans and everybody feeling

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:38.879
<v Speaker 1>like they're getting pulled in a lot of different directions.

0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:42.399
<v Speaker 1>But I think one of the good, really cool, feel

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 1>good stories about what Lives done has been your story

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>and your journey. For a guy that didn't really plan

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 1>to go to live, it kind of fell into your lap.

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>You got an opportunity, and you really really taken advantage

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:01.360
<v Speaker 1>of this opportunity in it it has been life changing

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 1>for you. And I said this to you earlier today

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:05.759
<v Speaker 1>when I saw you. One of the cool things is

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:09.600
<v Speaker 1>when you walked in to the clubhouse and Jetta, all

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:12.239
<v Speaker 1>of the players that had finished, all the caddies, everybody,

0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody when you walked in stood up and clapped and

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:21.279
<v Speaker 1>because they knew that you secured another year that you

0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:25.759
<v Speaker 1>can tell you know that doesn't happen anywhere else. Your

0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:30.160
<v Speaker 1>friends that you play with, that you know in professional golf,

0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 1>on whatever tour you're playing, they're happy for you.

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 1>But I think one of the cool things was to

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:39.200
<v Speaker 1>see the response of everybody on live from player caddy

0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and all the people associated with it. They were also

0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 1>genuinely happy for you when you did what you did.

0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:49.239
<v Speaker 1>In Saudi Arabia and secured another year of playing privileges.

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:52.279
<v Speaker 1>To me, that was something that was really cool, and

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I think everybody's really excited to see what you can

0:52:56.600 --> 0:53:00.440
<v Speaker 1>do next year and listen with as hard as you work,

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and you're one of the hardest working people I've seen

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>in a long long time. I mean, you put the

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:08.520
<v Speaker 1>hours in and I like the fact that I watch you.

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm OCD, I'm a rule. I mean, I need structure, redvant.

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I take a lot of comfort in the fact that

0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you and your caddie literally every week take up half

0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:21.960
<v Speaker 1>of the putting green and it doesn't matter what the

0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 1>size is because you've got your process in your drills

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.799
<v Speaker 1>and you do them every single day. And I think

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys I remember saying to DJ once

0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that there wasn't a lot of room

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:39.040
<v Speaker 1>on the putting green and stuff like that, but he said,

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:40.400
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I kind of like the fact that

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:44.000
<v Speaker 1>kid does the same thing every time. So that process

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 1>that you're going through, obviously it's working. I've just never

0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:52.400
<v Speaker 1>seen anyone set up that many stations on a putting

0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 1>green at a professional event, but it's obviously working. Congrats

0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 1>on a great year and you really looking forward to

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:02.879
<v Speaker 1>seeing what happens in twenty twenty four.

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:04.800
<v Speaker 4>Clud yet appreciate it.

0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:11.400
<v Speaker 1>So that was Scott Vincent, And like I said, I

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:13.680
<v Speaker 1>think it's a it's a good story. I think, you know,

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:15.920
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of stories around, you know, what's

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:17.759
<v Speaker 1>happened over the last couple of years, and I think

0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody has been focusing on, you know, the money element

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:23.879
<v Speaker 1>of it, and a lot of you know, the war

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:27.120
<v Speaker 1>between PJ tourn Live and whatever side of the fence

0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you're on on that. I think Scott talks a lot about,

0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, the decision he made, how it's impacted his life,

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and he now has opportunities to play in tournaments that

0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:40.520
<v Speaker 1>he never would have had opportunities to play in, and

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:44.960
<v Speaker 1>as an opportunity to play against a pretty strong field

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 1>each and every week out on Live. Keep an eye

0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 1>on him because I love the way he goes about

0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:55.759
<v Speaker 1>things and I like his game and I'm excited to

0:54:55.800 --> 0:55:00.359
<v Speaker 1>see what he can do in twenty twenty four. Thanks

0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:01.920
<v Speaker 1>everyone for listening. I know it took a couple of

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:04.320
<v Speaker 1>weeks off from the pod, had some technical issues, was

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 1>on the road, but I put a question out on

0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 1>people that you all want to hear for the pod.

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do my best to try and get them.

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 1>We've got some great guests coming up over the coming weeks.

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:21.880
<v Speaker 1>And thanks for listening. It's always fun when I'm on

0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:23.839
<v Speaker 1>the road. I get a lot of feedback from people

0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:26.759
<v Speaker 1>saying listen, love the podcast, and that always makes me

0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:29.920
<v Speaker 1>feel really really cool. Son of a Butch comes to

0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:32.520
<v Speaker 1>you every Wednesday. We will see you next week.