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Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome to Move the Sticks, DJ and

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Speaker 1: Rhet with you from Mobile, Alabama and from coming from

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Speaker 2: Yes, we did at one point a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 3: And this is a little bit more comfortable. I don't

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Speaker 2: Call it luxurious, but I think it's gonna it's gonna

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Speaker 2: lend you some some good nuggets and some of these

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna be safer Nobil God bless him. Was

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Speaker 1: not the best driver, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that's not part of his new job description.

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Speaker 1: Happy for Nabili's doing great. By the way, for those

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Speaker 1: to handle some business here at the very top here

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Speaker 1: because it's time for Hot or Not brought to you

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Speaker 1: with the national team what we saw in the morning

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Speaker 1: from them, and I'm going to give you give you

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Speaker 1: the floor here, what's stood out to you?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we'll go and I think, you know, one

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Speaker 2: continue to separate elevate their game. I thought Jeffrey bossa

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Speaker 2: I feel like we don't get an opportunity to talk

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Speaker 2: the full spectrum of your skill set. But I thought

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Speaker 2: I'm fired up for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I love the way he broke it down at

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Speaker 2: And we got a chance to talk to him after

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Speaker 1: For those who don't know Darius Alexander from Toledo was

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Speaker 1: He's flying around. The GPS numbers have been great for

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Speaker 1: He is a fun one to keep an eye on

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Speaker 1: We will be right back and we'll get over the

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Speaker 1: other side. The afternoon practice the American team. Our thoughts

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Speaker 1: of all quarterbacks on the American side. We didn't, I

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Speaker 1: the National side, best and best in show just so far.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that there's anyone that just jumped out.

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Speaker 1: I would probably lean towards Shuck, but you know, I

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Speaker 1: think Dylan Gabriel has been close. They're just totally different

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Speaker 2: Sure, and Chuck gave us kind of the wow moment

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Speaker 3: Flips it like live.

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Speaker 2: It was like it was the most natural thing he's

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Speaker 1: This four degrees. I don't know if IVE ever heard

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Speaker 2: Well, you played for three years at Oregon, three years

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Speaker 2: I would agree with you. Milroe, though, did kind of

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Speaker 3: Of these completions. But I would agree with you on

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Speaker 1: We get to the receiver position. You mentioned Besh had

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Speaker 2: I thought Isaac Taslaw had a really a good one

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Speaker 1: No, you know what I need to I need to

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Speaker 2: So was Jayden Higgins today from Iowa State was a

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Speaker 2: we showed it on NFL Network today just because there's

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the trenches here. Offensive line, defensive line.

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Speaker 1: It's always fun to watch those guys. I thought, I'll

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Speaker 2: Move yeah, And I think we saw a nice battle

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Speaker 3: So that they called them back out there for the

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Speaker 2: In fact, it was one repon team and remind me

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Shamar Stewart cooked him with a sack. He cooked

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Speaker 3: That's right, exactly right.

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Speaker 2: And then Baron Surrell and Emory had a chance to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was fun to watch. Those one on

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, Pad's know, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and look and that's that's tough on a guy

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Speaker 1: It's just not fair. I mean, he's got he's got

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Speaker 3: I thought Billy.

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Speaker 2: He had another great day to day and boy does

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Speaker 1: What did he say is game team as Game Day, nameless.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to say when you know we're

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Speaker 2: projecting coaches, right, He's never been a head coach. Ben

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Speaker 2: play called had been a really good one. I know

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Speaker 2: you got to know him a little bit from his

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Speaker 2: from his time in LA with the Chargers. Think he's

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Speaker 2: done a real nice job kind of orchestrating the offense

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Speaker 2: for Nick Sirianni and Philly this year. Obviously they're sitting

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Speaker 2: there in the in the postseason. It helps when you

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Speaker 2: can turn around and hand it off to a two

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Speaker 2: thousand yard running back as well.

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Speaker 3: Look, they've got talent in New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: The thing that I don't that gives me reservation, and

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Speaker 2: not because of Callen, but because of the Saint situation.

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Speaker 2: It just feels like they need one of those resets.

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Speaker 2: And it's kind of been a band aid approach for

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years. And you wonder, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you're kind of hamstring hamstrung with the cap and

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Speaker 2: you're just trying to kind of try to patch things up,

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Speaker 2: is that a place where a first time head coach

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Speaker 2: can thrive. Maybe maybe it is. Is it gonna be

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Speaker 2: Derek Carr? Is that even gonna be his quarterback? I

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Speaker 2: think there's a lot of unanswered questions that this type

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Speaker 2: of hire would kind of present as we go forward.

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. I like the idea of just

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Speaker 1: kind of getting outside the family a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 1: there was talk they were going to get guys that

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Speaker 1: had been previously been assistant and now obviously Dan Campbell's

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Speaker 1: don a bang up job with Detroit Eron Glynn's going

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Speaker 1: to get his shot with the Jets. Dennis Allen had

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Speaker 1: come back there to be the head coach, so it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, let's let's just get outside of that.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Patriots and I hope it works

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Speaker 1: out with Rabel, but I feel like they're just it's

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Speaker 1: just the next iteration of Belichick. And I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: like the Saints, let's just get a let's get a

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Speaker 1: new fresh start here.

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Speaker 3: That's what this would be.

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Speaker 2: And look, Mike McCarthy would have been you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: not calling it a retread, but certainly familiarity there from

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Speaker 2: his time, you know, with Sean Payton in New Orleans

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Speaker 2: and he pulled himself out of the search. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it does feel like it's kind of Kellen's Kellen's opportunity

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Speaker 2: at this point. But we'll see anything could happen. I

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Speaker 2: do think that that part of it does create a

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Speaker 2: fresh mindset, and I think that could be something that's

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Speaker 2: that's very needed in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: And I think also Kellen's seen when you build up

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Speaker 1: a line of scrimmage and you've got a study running back,

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Speaker 1: good things can happen. And they've got the makings of

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Speaker 1: some good pieces along that offensive line. Floag as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: I think, is going to be a really good player

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Speaker 1: for them going forward.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: See it seems like at the running back position, Alvi

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Speaker 1: Kamara is gonna play at least fifty. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Chris Olave didn't play a whole lot this year

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Speaker 2: because he was hurt. You know, you get that piece back,

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Speaker 2: and we forgot how good he was as a rookie

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Speaker 2: just because we didn't see him a ton this year.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean, like there's some stuff, but the

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Speaker 2: defense is getting a little bit older, right Cam Jordan.

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Speaker 2: The Mario Davis, Marshall Lattimore is now gone. I think

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Speaker 2: this is a big draft for New Orleans to kind

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Speaker 2: of refill the coffers here a little bit for a

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Speaker 2: new head coach.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens there. But one of your take

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Speaker 1: on that as our New Orleans Uh well, we don't

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Speaker 1: say resident, what do I say New Orleans? Uh yeah, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: let's go with that in New Orleans native. All right,

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Speaker 1: it's been it's been fun down here at the reach

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Speaker 1: of Senior Bowl. We will have more coming your way.

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Speaker 1: We'll get definitely going to have an opportunity to recap

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Speaker 1: the game what we see there. Uh TV deal, whether

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Speaker 1: we get another episode between now and then, we're efforting.

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Speaker 1: We're efforting. But I mean, yeah, this couch, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is this is a lot of content for this

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Speaker 1: for this case. Get him out here, all right. We

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Speaker 1: gotta we gotta wrap this up. I get it right

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Speaker 1: out of my room. I appreciate you guys. We will

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Speaker 1: see you next time. Right here, unmoved the sticks