WEBVTT - HR1: Rule Changes

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<v Speaker 1>At least, is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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<v Speaker 1>Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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<v Speaker 2>is the Matt Williamson and Matt Lots of news coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of the meetings that are taking in Minneapolis or

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<v Speaker 2>just outside of Minneapolis at the Vikings facility. The NFL

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<v Speaker 2>owners voted thirty two nothing to allow players to participate

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<v Speaker 2>in the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, thirty two nothing. I mean, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>many votes they have, right, and we've talked about this

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<v Speaker 3>quite a bit this week. I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 3>players will take them up on it, or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what percentage of the roster will be NFL guys, maybe all,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe one, maybe two. I don't know. I have no clue.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know. I guess I guess I should

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<v Speaker 3>look into what the rules are, you know, like they

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<v Speaker 3>can play some dudes both ways. That's interesting. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely think the dedication to spreading the game of

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<v Speaker 3>football worldwide is strong with the league really strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, and there will be some other countries

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<v Speaker 2>that can field teams that you know, they may have

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<v Speaker 2>more NFL players on some of those teams. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>might not say American. That's a good point, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>could see like the Canadian team, for example, there's I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, forty guys in the NFL that are Canadians,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe more than that, maybe less, I don't know the exact.

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<v Speaker 3>That might be a great opportunity for those players. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, some other countries may have some some guys

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<v Speaker 2>that are capable of doing it, but I just think

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<v Speaker 2>there are some very specific There are some specialized players

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<v Speaker 2>who do nothing but play flag football in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, right right, and they may have an upper

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<v Speaker 2>hand on some of the NFL players because quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL players aren't gonna have time to try for this.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing that you're just gonna have to pick

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<v Speaker 3>it up on the fly. Obviously there's some extreme overlap,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not like.

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<v Speaker 2>The Steelers mini camp is in three weeks. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the Olympics are going to take place in July.

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<v Speaker 2>So if every team's mini camp is taking place as

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<v Speaker 2>it does across the league sometime in June and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then training camps right after the Olympics too. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like you got to wedget in there. Your only time

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<v Speaker 3>that you're off. But it is a unique opportunity, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean it's pretty cool, you you know,

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<v Speaker 3>stay Olympic village and go wherever. I don't know. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's not like these hockey tournaments or whatever, where the

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<v Speaker 3>rules are basically the same, you know, like you just

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<v Speaker 3>they are a slight difference, you know, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>they pick it up quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm surely of course extreme extreme athletes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The NFL owners also passed the rule allowing on side

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<v Speaker 2>kicks at any point when a team is trailing.

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<v Speaker 3>When they're trailing, yeah, you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Take take out of the equation. What happened in the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl where the Chiefs scored with like eight seconds

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<v Speaker 2>left in the third quarter. They're down three scores or

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<v Speaker 2>four scores, whatever it was, can't do and they couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>go on side. If they scored eight seconds later, they

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<v Speaker 2>could have.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's a weird example because it's so late

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<v Speaker 3>in the third quarter and you're getting beat that bad

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<v Speaker 3>in the Super Bowl, But that that might happen five

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<v Speaker 3>times throughout the course of the year. Yeah, you know, there.

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<v Speaker 2>May be a you know, any you know, team might

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<v Speaker 2>be down two or three scores in a third quarter

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<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, we're going on side, Like why not?

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<v Speaker 2>We can't stop these guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it goes out saying but just to reiterate it,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you still have to announce it. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>surprise on sides because it's a different formation.

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<v Speaker 2>But honestly, the on side kick is actually one of

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<v Speaker 2>the more exciting plays in football.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, if it was executed correctly, if it bounces

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<v Speaker 3>it in the air, you know, right, it's it's worth

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<v Speaker 3>staying around for it. It doesn't happen a lot. But still

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<v Speaker 3>that's a good rule. I mean, I think they just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of screwed up the original rule. Yeah why may

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<v Speaker 3>why limit it to the fourth quarter to begin with?

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<v Speaker 2>I get you know, it was a brand new rule

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<v Speaker 2>with the kickoffs. You had to kind of figure out

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<v Speaker 2>what that was going to look like, so they had

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<v Speaker 2>to have some guardrails there for it.

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<v Speaker 3>But and maybe only you know, the Super Bowl is

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest instance, but maybe it only happened three or

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<v Speaker 3>four times in the course of the year. Where a

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<v Speaker 3>coach is going, oh, I wish I could outside here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's a small tweak, but a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. They also the Lions withdrew their proposal to change

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<v Speaker 2>the playoff seating or even got to a vote. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they realized it, don't We don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>votes for this, Okay, okay, and we're fine with that,

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I mean, again, the reasoning behind it was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get people not sitting late in the year.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know that would be the end all

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<v Speaker 2>be all for it, you know. And again everybody wants

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<v Speaker 2>to throw out the rarities that occur. Right, Well, what

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this eight win team gets to host a

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<v Speaker 2>twelve win team. Well that's happened like three times in

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<v Speaker 2>the last forty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we cited it yesterday. The Seahawks with a

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<v Speaker 3>losing record hosting a playoff game has happened once.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, happened one. And I've again, I've seen I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen the Steelers be on the wrong side of that. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>an eleven win team had to go to an eight

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<v Speaker 2>win team. I've also seen the thirteen and three Broncos

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<v Speaker 2>have to be a wild card and have to come

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<v Speaker 2>to Pittsburgh. Yeah, which had won twelve games that year

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<v Speaker 2>they were the two seeds.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not that uncommon for the wild card five seed

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<v Speaker 3>to have a better record than the four seed. No,

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<v Speaker 3>but when your.

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<v Speaker 2>Division win your division, that's you know, everybody knows the

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<v Speaker 2>rules going into the season. Yeah, it's not like they

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<v Speaker 2>surprise people with this. Somebody said, well, what you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if a team goes six, and this was on the

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<v Speaker 2>message board today, if a team wins sweeps its regular seat,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's division games and loses all the other ones,

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<v Speaker 2>they could still win a division. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>go You're not going to see a six and eleven

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<v Speaker 2>team win a division, No, no, never. The rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the teams in a division would have to be completely

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<v Speaker 2>and utterly garbage.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I mean that that's what never happen, and they'd

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<v Speaker 3>all have two wins from you anyways loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but a six and eleven team, for example, would

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<v Speaker 2>be if they didn't make the playoffs, we'll be picking

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<v Speaker 2>like eleventh or twelfth in the in the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, maybe earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>So you would have to have four of the worst

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<v Speaker 2>eleven teams all in the same vision ten.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that never ever, it's that's rare than Seattle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not. It's never happened that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's almost impossible to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>A point I wanted to make about that yesterday that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of slipped my mind is unlike other sports, every

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<v Speaker 3>schedule is an equal.

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<v Speaker 2>He's my point with the whole thing. Mike de Corsi,

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<v Speaker 2>who writes for the Sporting News today was was Tim

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<v Speaker 2>Benz wrote about it in the Trib. In the Corsi,

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<v Speaker 2>who I have a lot of respect for, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>said he was one of the ones that brought up

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<v Speaker 2>why should an eight win team host a twelve win team?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, when you when your division, yeah, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>know this is like this. You know, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to go to college basketball, which is what Mike primarily

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<v Speaker 2>does he comes college basketball, then make it a full

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<v Speaker 2>open NCAT Yeah yeah, yeah. And then the the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>champion is the five seed because they, you know, somehow

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<v Speaker 2>want a week conference that year. But that never happens

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<v Speaker 2>that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And my point is none of the schedules are

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<v Speaker 3>the same in any right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's and that's what I told them, Like, the schedules

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<v Speaker 2>aren't equal.

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<v Speaker 3>But at least the ones in your division are close,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the four teams of division play a similar,

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<v Speaker 3>much more similar schedule than you know, the Steelers, Ravens, Browns,

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<v Speaker 3>and Bengals play similar schedules more so than the Vikings

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<v Speaker 3>do right to them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're going to see the teams in the

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<v Speaker 2>NFC West this year, for example, have some reasonably gaudy

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<v Speaker 2>win totals because they play the AFC South and the

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<v Speaker 2>NFC South is their crossover games. It's just worked out

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<v Speaker 2>that way this year. And well, of those teams in

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<v Speaker 2>those in those two divisions, six of the eight aren't great.

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<v Speaker 3>Aren't great, right, and don't project to be great? One

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<v Speaker 3>of them be better? And we think want to be worse,

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<v Speaker 3>we think, of course. And then there's like the flip

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<v Speaker 3>side too, you'd be like, man, the Giants, they got

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<v Speaker 3>last place schedule, they should have a nice easy run.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we got that for the year this year for them,

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<v Speaker 3>that way, they're projected to have the hardest schedule in

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<v Speaker 3>the league. Yeah, that's a bad year to be the

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<v Speaker 3>last place team in the AFC West. Or it's just

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<v Speaker 3>how it works out.

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<v Speaker 2>And and you know, this isn't this isn't like college

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<v Speaker 2>football or college basketball or anything like that. You the league.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you who. I can tell you who.

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<v Speaker 2>The Steelers schedule is going to be five years from now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, there's a couple of variables, but right yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Other than you know, the teams, you know, a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of spots that are determined by who they match up

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<v Speaker 2>against based on wins, where they finish in the division.

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<v Speaker 3>You can still pencil in wherever seeding they're in, they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to play the NF North team that or AFC North.

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<v Speaker 2>Team, for example, the Steelers twenty twenty let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty seven schedule. That's that's even two years from.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right, Well, we know based on six games matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that they're going to play the Bengals twice, the

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<v Speaker 2>Browns twice, the Ravens twice. But they're also going to

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<v Speaker 2>play the Broncos, the Chiefs, the Raiders, the Chargers, Cardinals, Rams, Seahawks,

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine Ers, and then there are three games that

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<v Speaker 2>are determined on where they finish in the division. They

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<v Speaker 2>played AFC South, AFC East, and NFC North. They finished

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<v Speaker 2>with the same finish as them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they play West. I guess the twenty seven they

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<v Speaker 3>play all the West, all the North, and that pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much takes up fourteen of your seventeen games.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But if you know, if teams are making their

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<v Speaker 2>own schedule like they do in Okay, so this twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five win team might not be the same as this

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six win team.

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<v Speaker 3>Note close.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's why you look at stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they have their ratings out there and the strength of

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<v Speaker 2>schedule and all that stuff comes into play. Well in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL, Oh, you can't really do that because the

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<v Speaker 2>schedule was set.

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<v Speaker 3>And again we talked about this yesterday. I like the

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<v Speaker 3>idea of team building to win your division, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to beat your opponents, to be your geography, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all that the stuff you deal with year after year.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Not, man, we got the Broncos on the schedule in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty seven. We better find someone that can beat patzertain.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is actually you know where the Steelers got themselves

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<v Speaker 2>into trouble in twenty sixteen, is.

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<v Speaker 3>That, like the Patriot, they built the off season a.

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<v Speaker 2>Man off season. Hey, we gotta we gotta go out.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta find a figure out a way. They had

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<v Speaker 2>just lost to the Patriots in the AFC Championship. We

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<v Speaker 2>got to figure out a way to beat the Patriots. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they were still good enough to win the division.

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<v Speaker 3>But how do we get over the hump of the

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<v Speaker 3>big bad Wolf?

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<v Speaker 2>But then, all of a sudden you run into a

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<v Speaker 2>team that plays a real physical style of football, which

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<v Speaker 2>you should have been built to handle in the AFC.

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<v Speaker 3>North, but usually you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually you are in that situation you weren't because you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, yeah, you're looking for Edelman and those guys, you know, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely think that can be a mistake. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>teams do it with the chief now, you know that

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<v Speaker 3>the Bills and Ravens look around like, Okay, we've done

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<v Speaker 3>well in our division, but haven't got to quite where

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<v Speaker 3>we want to go. Is it worse sacrificing some stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>I think you can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>If, for example, you're the Bills this year, you can

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<v Speaker 2>look at the at the rest of your division go well,

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<v Speaker 2>we should win our division. Yeah yeah, but can we

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<v Speaker 2>beat the Chiefs? Whereas the Ravens might look at this

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<v Speaker 2>and go, eh, we could lose the division to the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals or Steelers pretty easily because they're both good teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we worry about what we need to do to

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<v Speaker 2>beat the Chiefs or the Bills.

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<v Speaker 3>Bills are a good example. I mean, obviously they're stronger

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<v Speaker 3>on the offensive side of the ball, and they have

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<v Speaker 3>been particularly in their playoff performances. But what knocked off

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<v Speaker 3>the Chiefs a deep defensive line that the Eagles had

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<v Speaker 3>they could really rush the passer, and they drafted three

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<v Speaker 3>defensive line I think in their first four picks. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that probably is not an accident.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but to that point, that works against anybody. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just something that works. Never a terrible strategy to get out.

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<v Speaker 2>Then their d line need to work, right, Yeah, so work.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see about the Tush push stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I still think that is going to be the one

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be the most contentious.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It seems like the one most talked about too. Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I still think there's there's going to be a reasonable

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<v Speaker 2>push to make.

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<v Speaker 3>That happen to eliminate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, so I kind of lean towards that too.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixteen Well, No, okay, that's I just was looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the latest update here. It's still uh no proposal to

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<v Speaker 2>band Tush push and NFL fails by two votes according

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<v Speaker 2>to esp.

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<v Speaker 3>Will stick around. Yeah, they need to get to twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>They get to twenty twenty two, okay, twenty two to ten.

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<v Speaker 3>It was sixteen just a month or so, So maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to see it this year.

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<v Speaker 2>There'll be some kind of modified proposal to what this was. Right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going away. It will go away this year, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would expect it to go away in the near future.

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<v Speaker 3>The way I understand this proposal was just banning the

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<v Speaker 3>tush push specifically. Yeah, I would write it you can't

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<v Speaker 3>aid any ball carriers.

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<v Speaker 2>I would go back to the yeah, yeah, pre two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and five rules where you just can't aid the runner.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, no matter who it is, anyone with the ball

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<v Speaker 3>in their hand, the offensive player can't push them in.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I've also seen the argument put out there, well that

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<v Speaker 2>was never called because teams didn't do it, they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>design it, nobody did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like there

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<v Speaker 2>was no there were There weren't situations where you saw

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<v Speaker 2>these drums and these guys just moving down. It didn't

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<v Speaker 2>happen that way. That's why it was never called. It

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<v Speaker 2>was on the books and wasn't called because it didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Like, I was in here thinking if there's a

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<v Speaker 3>running back, fighting for yardage like Nausey often did with

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of people around him. He's not going down,

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<v Speaker 3>and this tight end comes flying over to try to

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<v Speaker 3>knock someone off the pile and runs into Nausey's back

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<v Speaker 3>and helps them gain two yards. I'm not throwing the

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<v Speaker 3>flag on that, you know what I mean, But it's

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm behind them, you know, driving them and doing

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<v Speaker 3>the work for them, basically flag. Yeah, you know, so

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<v Speaker 3>I hope that's how it goes, but we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I think that would get much more

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<v Speaker 2>support from the coaches around the league.

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<v Speaker 3>I would also think it's easier to officiate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know, as opposed you know, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>it is when you see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's a design. It's a design play

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<v Speaker 3>with its own formation. I mean you know it's coming

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<v Speaker 3>before they even snap it. Yeah, you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad it got close. So it makes me think

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<v Speaker 3>we'll have one more year a toush pushing.

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<v Speaker 2>I would think, so, yeah, And then you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>get the other side of the argument that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>well stop.

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<v Speaker 3>It, which is what okay something said for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, somebody can show me how you can stop it regularly,

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll believe that it can be stopped on a

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I just hope a quarterback doesn't get hurt this year,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the reason we get to twenty four next year.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, especially Hurts because he's one does the most.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, Hurts gets hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>Hurts gets hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to see that.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh and Mike commind a great point at the

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<v Speaker 3>owners meeting too that there just haven't been that many

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<v Speaker 3>times has been recalled in the history of the league

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<v Speaker 3>to judge it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So let's get to a break. I am

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<v Speaker 2>Dale Rollie. He is the Matt Williamson and this is

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<v Speaker 2>the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. We've got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot coming at you today, star studded show. Nice, We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take a break. We'll be back with more right

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<v Speaker 2>after this.

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<v Speaker 4>At least.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio and welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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<v Speaker 2>that we are joined on the Justin Miller Hotline by

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Labriola, the Dean of Doom, the lord of living

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<v Speaker 2>in his fears, the editor of Steelers Digest in Steelers

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<v Speaker 2>dot com, How you doing, Labs.

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<v Speaker 4>Theush Push survives.

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<v Speaker 2>Barely by the skin of its well tush. It is

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<v Speaker 2>still it is still alive and semi well. Matt and

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<v Speaker 2>I were just talking about that in the previous segment, Bob,

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<v Speaker 2>and the fact that it got twenty two votes. If

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<v Speaker 2>you believe the reports that have come out of the

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<v Speaker 2>owner's meeting here would suggest that maybe a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>minor tweaks next year, we could see that go away.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I just I don't. I just don't

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<v Speaker 4>see it being overturned or band or whatever the word is,

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<v Speaker 4>until there is some something that happens, you know, where

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<v Speaker 4>somebody gets hurt, because you know, it's an offensive play.

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<v Speaker 4>We love offense. Anything that benefits the offense is good,

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<v Speaker 4>good for ratings, which is good for everybody. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to me, the thing that I've been reading that I

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<v Speaker 4>am happiest about is that the playoff receding thing bit

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<v Speaker 4>the GOA.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask you about that, Yeah, yeah, that one. That one

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even get off the ground. The Lions pulled the

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<v Speaker 2>proposal before they even got into the meeting, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think they realized nobody support nobody else is on board.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, one of the things that Judy Batista speculated on

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<v Speaker 4>was that, you know that what is it twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>six or it might have something to do with the

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen game regular season. I don't exactly understand or what

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<v Speaker 4>or know what she meant in terms of how that

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<v Speaker 4>would be tied together. You know, maybe, and I'm speculating here,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe what she was referring to was that whenever, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Roger Goodell tries to I won't say implement that because

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna it comes down to a vote of the

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<v Speaker 4>you know, entire NFLPA, But whenever that is put up

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<v Speaker 4>for a vote or whatever, maybe there is some sort

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<v Speaker 4>of issue with playoff receiding tied into that whole eighteen

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<v Speaker 4>game regular season package proposal whatever. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just glad for now that it maintains the integrity

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<v Speaker 4>of if a team wins its division, it should get

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<v Speaker 4>a home playoff game, and it should get preferred playoff

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<v Speaker 4>seeding to the rest of the playoffs over teams that

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<v Speaker 4>make the wild card. That's I believe that. I will

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<v Speaker 4>always believe that. Maybe I'm old school, but that's the

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<v Speaker 4>way I think it should be.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's go down the rabbit hole with that, bob,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you're going to do that, when you also

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<v Speaker 2>go to eighteen games, one of the things that.

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<v Speaker 3>We think eighteen games definitely happen.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point, eighteen is going to happen, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably in the next few years. And one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons why that this was table was because of that,

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<v Speaker 2>As Judy Batista wrote, if you're going to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't you then instead of having four divisions, have two

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen divisions in each conference to make it more like,

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<v Speaker 2>to make your maybe you don't play everybody twice, but

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you play everybody in your division once or something

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<v Speaker 2>along those lines, just to make it more equal, because

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to figure out a way if you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna if you're gonna receive the playoffs like that, my

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<v Speaker 2>twelve and four record might not be the same as

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<v Speaker 2>you're eleven, or twelve and five record might not be

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<v Speaker 2>the same as you're eleven and six record because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't play the same teams. You got to find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to equal out the schedules a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little bit more.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, again, I think that the NFL regular

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<v Speaker 4>season is lessened if you don't have two Steelers Ravens

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<v Speaker 4>games an example, you know, two Eagles, Cowboys, even Bears, Packers, yeah, Packers, Bears, whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. I just think that some of those divisional games, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when and when the league realigned in two

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<v Speaker 4>for the two thousand and two season into you know,

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen divisions, you know, four divisions in each conference, sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>game schedule at the time, I mean, it just made

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<v Speaker 4>perfect mathematical sense. But over the course of that it

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<v Speaker 4>also I think created rivalries that are good for television,

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<v Speaker 4>that energize the fan bases excuse me. And so you

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<v Speaker 4>know again, I think that if you're cutting back on

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<v Speaker 4>some of those divisional matchups, I mean, maybe, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Houston against Jacksonville doesn't move the needle, but as I

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<v Speaker 4>was just saying, Pittsburgh Baltimore definitely does.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just not sure where they get the extra game

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<v Speaker 2>at if they when they go to eighteen games. I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because right now, as we know, the schedule

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<v Speaker 2>works out that you play with the seventeenth game at well,

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<v Speaker 2>now you got to play one one extra team in

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<v Speaker 2>the other conference, and it rotates through. But as things

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<v Speaker 2>are now, you play three, You play your regular your schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>you play another division within the conference, you play another

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<v Speaker 2>division outside of the conference, and then you play the

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<v Speaker 2>three teams and you're within your conference that finish with

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<v Speaker 2>the like record as you.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard some people throw out trying to create new rivalries.

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<v Speaker 3>Eagles play the Steelers every year, the two New York

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<v Speaker 3>teams play every year, the two LA teams play every year.

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<v Speaker 3>But you start doing the you start connecting the dots.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's still there's still gonna be an extra game though,

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<v Speaker 2>because if that year that you playing the you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>play the Eagles twice.

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<v Speaker 3>Four teams if they happen to be the same seed

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<v Speaker 3>as you, it would happen rarely.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna have to see some kind of tweaking

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<v Speaker 2>of the schedule one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's funny, though, Like when you do the AFC

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<v Speaker 3>NFC and you go you draw a line from the

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<v Speaker 3>teams that all should play each other, there's not as

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<v Speaker 3>many obvious ones as you think, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>you got Arizona playing the Dolphins or something.

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<v Speaker 4>How about this, the eighteenth game is an international game, You're.

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<v Speaker 3>Still gonna play somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>You still have to figure out who you're going to play, though.

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<v Speaker 3>But I could definitely see what I mean, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that will happen.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just looking for yeah, because I think that's another

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<v Speaker 4>area where the league's gonna want to continue to grow

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<v Speaker 4>and expand. And so if the eighteenth game is an

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:43.160
<v Speaker 4>international game, maybe they figured out how to work that out.

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, make make more teams playing overseas, make

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 4>more teams play overseas. Maybe it opens up more venues,

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 4>more different countries.

0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 2>I definitely think that's in the works.

0:23:57.960 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 3>I think the eighteenth when it gets to an eighteen

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 3>game schedule, I think every team will go overseas one.

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's all part of the of the processor.

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know how you pick that additional team

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 2>that you're going to play unless it's it's the other

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 2>because you play you play one division in each conference

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 2>outside of every year, Like I'm looking here at the

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.439
<v Speaker 2>Steelers schedules for the next four years. So in twenty

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight, they play the the AFC East. They also

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:33.919
<v Speaker 2>match up against the NFC East those they have the

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 2>NFC South team that finishes with the same record as them.

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 2>They have the AFC West and AFC South teams that

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 2>also finished with the same record as them. That doesn't

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:43.120
<v Speaker 2>leave any other divisions.

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 4>Let me just bread this out. It's not the same record,

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 4>it's the same model spot.

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 2>The only other thing that they could do would be

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 2>to match up against the other team from the NFC

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:55.679
<v Speaker 2>that you don't play that year. So for example, that

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 2>year they play the NFC South.

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 3>You play two third place teams in the NFL or whatever.

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:02.399
<v Speaker 3>Or knowing the NFL, I just thought on me if

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:04.439
<v Speaker 3>it's a good idea or not, but everyone on the

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 3>planet would tune in. It's some boring time of the year.

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 3>You get a bunch of ping pong balls, Here comes

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 3>the Steelers, and then you pick one out of the

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 3>NFC bin. Oh, you got the Commanders this year. You

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:18.160
<v Speaker 3>know that's your last game. Okay, you know everybody would watch,

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 3>That's true, everybody would hopefully.

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 4>That's also the same year that the NFL goes to

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 4>My greatest fear for the draft one one pick a

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 4>day for the entire month of April, and uh, you

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 4>know it's all.

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 3>I'd be on the.

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I'd really be on the air a lot Williamson on

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 2>the air.

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:49.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, right, I'll give you a couple of years

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 4>to get those vocals right, right, Maybe you can start

0:25:53.000 --> 0:26:00.160
<v Speaker 4>doing bench presses. But I don't know. I I just

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:03.680
<v Speaker 4>think that and I always suggest that to be absurd,

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 4>but I think that, you know, absurdity sometimes. Yeah, oh man.

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 3>I do think there's a lot of merit though, to

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.439
<v Speaker 3>building your team to win your specific division. You know

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.880
<v Speaker 3>your geography, what are the rates? How do we you know,

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 3>do the Steelers draft? Why you're black? If it's not

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 3>for Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry, you know what I mean?

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Uh right, and yeah, and I think divisions have

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 4>developed identities.

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, there's no doubt about that.

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and uh, you know, I like it. It interests me,

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 4>you know, when there are random games on, you know,

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 4>I often would I would rather watch a division game usually.

0:26:56.440 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean there are obvious except but I mean, if

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 4>you know, for example, if it's I don't know, Buffalo

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 4>against New England or the Cardinals against Jacksonville, I'd watch

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 4>the division game just because even when it seems like,

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 4>for example, Buffalo against New England. You look at those

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.199
<v Speaker 4>two teams right now, that would not seem to be

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 4>a very closely contested game based on what you think

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 4>of those teams and where they have been recently in

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 4>terms of standings and stuff. But division games, I think

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 4>are always more likely to surprise you with the outcome

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 4>because of the familiarity of the teams we mentioned.

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 3>Earlier too, like Jaggs, Texans might not move the needle,

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 3>but it might in five years. You know, Stroud and

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Lawrence is great, you know who.

0:27:56.960 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So anyway, Yeah, I'm a I'm a believer in

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 4>the division thing. I I like a lot of a

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 4>lot about it, and uh, you know, I would be

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 4>in favor of maintaining that.

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 2>While we're on that subject, Bub and I just thought

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 2>about this. We haven't really talked about Cleveland trying to

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 2>build a dome in in up in Cleveland out by

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 2>their up by their airport. That is non a f

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 2>C North type football. I mean, when you think about

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 2>the a f C North, you're thinking about teams that

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 2>are playing out in the elements and doing those kind

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 2>of things. It just kind of goes against what the

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 2>division is about in many ways.

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 4>Sure, But I mean I think that that is a

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 4>reflection of their current ownership.

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 2>So it's not even retractable. It's just do I think

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 2>it's just a dome. Like buff Buffalo is building a

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 2>new stadium right now. If if somebody wanted to say,

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.479
<v Speaker 2>if Buffalo should have a dome, and I would get Okay,

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I get it. You know, Minnesota should have a dome,

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 2>right because it's ridiculously cold up there, you know, in

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the winter. But Buffalo said, no, We're

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 2>not building a dome because this is what we are.

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 2>This is part of our our you know, what makes

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>us the Bills, the Browns, building a dome stadium in

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland goes just goes against the AFC North in general

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 2>and what they.

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 4>Should be and what everything you think about, you know,

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 4>Sundays on the on the shores of Lake Ears.

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 2>It actually takes away one of their few things that

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>that gives them an advantage on some Sundays, Like there's

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:44.959
<v Speaker 2>been some games up there where weather has been a

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 2>major factor and it levels the playing field for some

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 2>bad Browns teams or Red eight eight or that. You

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>might explain that one to our younger listeners.

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, right, that was a brutally bitter cold day

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 4>where the Browns were hosting the Oakland Raiders and they

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 4>were in position. The Browns were in position to kick

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 4>a game winning field goal, and in his in his

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I'll call it genius, Sam Ertigliana decided, well,

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 4>let's run one more play and he tells Brian Sipe,

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, if it's not the play was red right

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 4>eighty eight. If it's not there right away, throw it

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 4>into the dog bomb, will kick the field goal and

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 4>win the game. Well, Brian Sipe didn't do that. He

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 4>threw the pass into the end zone, it was intercepted

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 4>and the Browns did not get to go to advance.

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 4>That wasn't an AFC championship game, I don't think.

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 2>They saved that for games against the Broncos.

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you know, the Browns were very much a

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 4>Super Bowl contending team that year in my opinion.

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh they were many of those years during the eighties. Yeah,

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 2>they just couldn't get.

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Over the hollow.

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was you know, I laughed very hard that day.

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 4>I remember that was very enjoyable. But you know that

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 4>that's a day, like you were describing, deal where it

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 4>should have been an advantage for the Browns. Cold, raw, windy.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 4>I see all those things against a California team, but

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 4>they still choked. So, you know, Yeah, getting back to

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 4>the original point, I wouldn't be in favor of a

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 4>dome in Cleveland. I don't think you need a dome

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 4>in Cleveland to pack the joint those fans. You know,

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 4>it's like putting a dome over lambeau Field. Yeah, I

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 4>just don't think that those fans need that to show up.

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 4>What they may need is, you know, respective respectable competitive team.

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 4>But who knows, Maybe ownership now believes up there that

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 4>it's easier to build a dome than it is to

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 4>be a respectable competitive team.

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Lads, do you see the Browns as a distant fourth

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 3>in the North right now?

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 4>I do, Yeah, I don't, I don't know distant. You know,

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 4>last is last, to paraphrase Juju, last is last. The

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 4>Browns is the Browns. I just don't have a lot

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 4>of belief that, you know. I think ownership up there

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 4>sometimes gets a little too involved that you know. I

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 4>will never forget the look on Andrew Berry's face their

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 4>GM when they announced that Shador Sanders picky. I mean,

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 4>so who knows. I don't. I don't. I really I

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 4>don't know what to expect from Browns. They don't seem

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 4>to me to do a lot of things where you

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 4>after they do, then you say, oh, that makes sense.

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 4>You know, even the Miles Garrett contract, the Deshaun Watson

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 4>trade and the contract they gave him, the Johnny Manzel pick,

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 4>the Brady Quinn pick. It's you know, I I from

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 4>the franchise when it entered the NFL. The Cleveland franchise

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 4>entered the NFL in nineteen fifty. It was so it

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.959
<v Speaker 4>was almost like a well oiled machine. You know. The

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 4>Browns were They were always always, always near the top

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 4>of the Eastern Conference. You know, the NFL even attempted,

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 4>because the Browns were absorbed from the All American Football Conference.

0:33:56.560 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 4>They the NFL even attempted to embarrass them by their

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 4>very first NFL game, They had to play the defending

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 4>champion Eagles, and the Browns kicked their butt, kicked their butt.

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 4>The Browns were also very progressive in terms of African Americans,

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 4>Bill Willis, Mary and Motley, all those kind of guys.

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 4>You know, all the innovations Paul Brown made in terms

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 4>of game film and you know all of that stuff.

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 4>The Browns were the first franchise to have radio helmets,

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 4>in the radio signals and the helmets so that Paul

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 4>Brown could communicate directly with the quarterback.

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 2>That franchise is still on pretty well, that's just in Baltimore.

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 4>Now, right. But you know, again, like I said, so

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 4>many things about that franchise were cutting edge, so well

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 4>thought out, you know, just kind of I won't say militaristic,

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 4>but they offered like a well oiled platoon of soldiers

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 4>or you know whatever, whatever kind of comparison you want

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 4>to make. But now, I mean, I just I don't know.

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 4>You just never know what's going to happen. And as

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.320
<v Speaker 4>I said, very rarely after it happens, when you go wow,

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 4>that makes a lot of sense. Wish I had thought.

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Of that, Labs. You might have noticed it from the

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 3>article I wrote from you recently. I was not a

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 3>big fan of the direction of their draft either, right,

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean doesn't add up to me at all. No

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 3>offensive line, mean, what are you doing?

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, and all the picks they had it just

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know, and yeah, the and the

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 4>the trading away from Travis Hunter.

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Two quarterbacks, two running backs.

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 4>What are you doing if if they had, as you

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 4>pointed out, if they had used that bounty they received

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 4>from that to address the issues that their roster had,

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 4>than okay, but they squat they blew those picks. Those picks.

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't understand it.

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean, right, I can't understand it.

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:15.879
<v Speaker 2>Well, Bob, this is why we have you on the show,

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 2>because you are a true historian of the game and

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 2>insight into not just the Steelers but some other teams

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>in the division. And and I think people forget that's

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 2>two different franchises, you know what I mean.

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.479
<v Speaker 3>Right, the good one left out right.

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:37.760
<v Speaker 4>And that's and that's why the Steelers hate the Ravens

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 4>because at the time it was Steelers Browns was bitter

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 4>from the beginning, and uh and the and the Ravens

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 4>are our Modell's Browns, and so there was a lot

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 4>of hatred. They're already built up. They didn't even have

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 4>to a lot of times, you know, with a new team,

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 4>not that the Ravens were an expansion team, but you

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 4>catch I drift, it's a new team there, it takes

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:04.919
<v Speaker 4>a while before you start hating.

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh that was that was a team that the Steelers

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 2>had just played in the playoffs like two years before that,

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 2>when they were the first Ravens team, like they had

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 2>just met in the playoffs.

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 4>And beat them three times.

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was yeah, I mean, that was all

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 2>across you.

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 4>Think about it. The Steelers have done that twice to

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.919
<v Speaker 4>that franchise nineteen ninety four, in two thousand and eight,

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 4>beat them three times.

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, well, Bob, we will let you go and

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.439
<v Speaker 2>appreciate you drop them by. We didn't uh, we didn't

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 2>get to talk all that much about the tush push

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:44.879
<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff. But plenty of time to talk

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>about that, and there's there's plenty out there about it.

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Everybody has their opinions about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But and thank thank you for not making me talk

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<v Speaker 4>about OTAs.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, not a problem, not a problem at all. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to OTAs?

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<v Speaker 3>I said, we'll be broadcasting from down there next week.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I mean, uhh, if you guys are

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<v Speaker 4>going to be broadcasting, I'll come down at least once

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<v Speaker 4>just to make funny stop.

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<v Speaker 2>By the cafeteria at least, you know where you can

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<v Speaker 2>stop by the table and talk to us while we're

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<v Speaker 2>on the air broadcasting during ota.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, all right, there you go, There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Our guest has been Bob Labriola, editor of Steeler's Digest

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<v Speaker 2>in Steelers dot Com, the Dean of Doom, the lord

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<v Speaker 2>of living in his fears. He's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to the Driver here in the Steelers Audio Network.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be back with more right after this.

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<v Speaker 4>At least.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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<v Speaker 1>your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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<v Speaker 2>the Matt Williamson, and is Bob Labriola just said, there Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>Next week OTAs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I actually see football stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of weeks of OTAs and we'll get a

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<v Speaker 2>week of mini camp as well. When I say a week,

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<v Speaker 2>they actually go Tuesday through Thursday. Okay, right, that's right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's really nine practices on the field. They are

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<v Speaker 2>football like. Yeah, it's football like.

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<v Speaker 3>They were more.

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<v Speaker 2>Involved in the rookie mini camp.

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<v Speaker 3>So funny. I was on a Dynasty podcast this morning,

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<v Speaker 3>and I guess tooting first time they hand him the

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<v Speaker 3>ball he fumbles in Ota, we know he's a fumbler.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, and they're like, should we be worried about it?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, the big conversation was to be overreact to OTAs.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yes, you overreact to OTAs, but nobody hit them.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you can't even say, well, I hit you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hit the handoff, hit my shoulder pad, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I right right, right right, or something like. That's not

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<v Speaker 3>a great sign a fumbler. No cackle didn't blast him

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<v Speaker 3>in the ball and flying.

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<v Speaker 2>Out and he knew it wasn't he wasn't gonna get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's probably just like, don't fumble, don't fumble, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, don't think about pink elephants.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's quite me if I'm wrong. But next week

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<v Speaker 3>we got Memorial Day no show three from down there.

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, down there Friday, no show. So basically

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<v Speaker 2>from here on out, folks, at least until mini camps

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<v Speaker 2>or i should say training camp starts at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of July, and I'm just guessing here that's probably starts

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<v Speaker 2>sometime around you know, if you can do the math,

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<v Speaker 2>just go backwards two weeks from when they play their

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<v Speaker 2>first preseason game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so when it camp opens you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're probably looking at somewhere in the one, two three,

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth week of July that the training camp will start.

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<v Speaker 2>We will go back to four days a week and

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<v Speaker 2>actually or something sorry, five days a week. Actually during

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<v Speaker 2>training camp, every day they practice, we do a show.

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<v Speaker 2>We do a show, so sometimes it's more than seven

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<v Speaker 2>day a week.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, so good stuff. So we'll have

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<v Speaker 3>three shows. Players should be joining us next week too, right, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>We will have player interviews and everything. I should say

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<v Speaker 2>though that we won't have video down there. Friday of

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<v Speaker 2>this week will be Friday this week will be our

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<v Speaker 2>last day for video on YouTube until until training camp

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<v Speaker 2>starts off, and we will have our all of our

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<v Speaker 2>shows at training camp throughout the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you can find us on like every other platform

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<v Speaker 2>out there. Yeah, you can still listen and uh obviously

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<v Speaker 2>we'll still do our Twitter Thursday and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it won't be much different. Good stuff. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just I just like to get back down there.

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<v Speaker 3>And I haven't seen any of the new players in

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<v Speaker 3>person yet, really, I mean, I want to see you're

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<v Speaker 3>like Why You're Black is ridiculously huge. I've never seen

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<v Speaker 3>Metcalf in person. I mean, I bet it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A little whoa you know. So, So we'll get an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to do all that next week again. We'll be

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<v Speaker 2>broadcasting live during the OTA practices so well, and we'll will.

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<v Speaker 3>Be commenting on like boy, that is a heck of

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<v Speaker 3>a catch.

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<v Speaker 2>Orge. We can't cover three right now, but we will

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<v Speaker 2>have players coming over to join us once the session

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<v Speaker 2>is done, so you want to hear that. We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>some interviews with some of these guys. There's a list

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<v Speaker 2>out there of guys that have been requested. You'll really

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<v Speaker 2>like the list of guys. We'll get some of it.

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<v Speaker 2>We won't get all of them, but we'll get some

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<v Speaker 2>of them because there's only nine sessions total. But you

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<v Speaker 2>will enjoy listening or being able to hear these guys

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<v Speaker 2>chat with us for ten minutes or so at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the show. You won't want to miss that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't get it anywhere else. That's key, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the key. That's why we do these shows. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to do it for hour number one. He is

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie, you're listening to the

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<v Speaker 2>Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>with more right after this