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Speaker 1: At least, is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and Matt Lots of news coming

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Speaker 2: out of the meetings that are taking in Minneapolis or

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Speaker 2: just outside of Minneapolis at the Vikings facility. The NFL

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Speaker 2: owners voted thirty two nothing to allow players to participate

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Speaker 2: in the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: Wow, thirty two nothing. I mean, I don't know how

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Speaker 3: many votes they have, right, and we've talked about this

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Speaker 3: quite a bit this week. I don't know how many

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Speaker 3: players will take them up on it, or you know,

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Speaker 3: what percentage of the roster will be NFL guys, maybe all,

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Speaker 3: maybe one, maybe two. I don't know. I have no clue.

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Speaker 3: I don't really know. I guess I guess I should

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Speaker 3: look into what the rules are, you know, like they

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Speaker 3: can play some dudes both ways. That's interesting. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I definitely think the dedication to spreading the game of

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Speaker 3: football worldwide is strong with the league really strong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and there will be some other countries

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Speaker 2: that can field teams that you know, they may have

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Speaker 2: more NFL players on some of those teams. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: might not say American. That's a good point, Like I

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Speaker 2: could see like the Canadian team, for example, there's I

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Speaker 2: don't know, forty guys in the NFL that are Canadians,

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Speaker 2: maybe more than that, maybe less, I don't know the exact.

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Speaker 3: That might be a great opportunity for those players. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: You know, some other countries may have some some guys

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Speaker 2: that are capable of doing it, but I just think

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Speaker 2: there are some very specific There are some specialized players

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Speaker 2: who do nothing but play flag football in the United States.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, right right, and they may have an upper

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Speaker 2: hand on some of the NFL players because quite frankly,

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Speaker 2: the NFL players aren't gonna have time to try for this.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing that you're just gonna have to pick

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Speaker 3: it up on the fly. Obviously there's some extreme overlap,

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Speaker 3: but it's not like.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers mini camp is in three weeks. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: end of the Olympics are going to take place in July.

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Speaker 2: So if every team's mini camp is taking place as

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Speaker 2: it does across the league sometime in June and.

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Speaker 3: Then training camps right after the Olympics too. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: like you got to wedget in there. Your only time

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Speaker 3: that you're off. But it is a unique opportunity, and

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean it's pretty cool, you you know,

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Speaker 3: stay Olympic village and go wherever. I don't know. And

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Speaker 3: it's not like these hockey tournaments or whatever, where the

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Speaker 3: rules are basically the same, you know, like you just

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Speaker 3: they are a slight difference, you know, but I think

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Speaker 3: they pick it up quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surely of course extreme extreme athletes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: The NFL owners also passed the rule allowing on side

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Speaker 2: kicks at any point when a team is trailing.

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Speaker 3: When they're trailing, yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 2: Take take out of the equation. What happened in the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl where the Chiefs scored with like eight seconds

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Speaker 2: left in the third quarter. They're down three scores or

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Speaker 2: four scores, whatever it was, can't do and they couldn't

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Speaker 2: go on side. If they scored eight seconds later, they

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a weird example because it's so late

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Speaker 3: in the third quarter and you're getting beat that bad

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Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, But that that might happen five

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Speaker 2: May be a you know, any you know, team might

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Speaker 2: We can't stop these guys.

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Speaker 3: I think it goes out saying but just to reiterate it,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you still have to announce it. There's no

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Speaker 2: But honestly, the on side kick is actually one of

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, if it was executed correctly, if it bounces

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Speaker 3: that's a good rule. I mean, I think they just

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Speaker 3: why limit it to the fourth quarter to begin with?

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Speaker 2: I get you know, it was a brand new rule

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Speaker 3: But and maybe only you know, the Super Bowl is

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Speaker 3: so it's a small tweak, but a good one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They also the Lions withdrew their proposal to change

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Speaker 2: the playoff seating or even got to a vote. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I think they realized it, don't We don't have the

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Speaker 2: I think. I mean, again, the reasoning behind it was

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Speaker 2: But I don't know that would be the end all

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Speaker 2: be all for it, you know. And again everybody wants

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Speaker 2: to throw out the rarities that occur. Right, Well, what

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Speaker 2: you know, this eight win team gets to host a

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Speaker 2: twelve win team. Well that's happened like three times in

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Speaker 2: the last forty years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we cited it yesterday. The Seahawks with a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, happened one. And I've again, I've seen I've

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Speaker 2: seen the Steelers be on the wrong side of that. Again,

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Speaker 2: an eleven win team had to go to an eight

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Speaker 2: they were the two seeds.

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Speaker 3: It's not that uncommon for the wild card five seed

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Speaker 3: but when your.

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Speaker 2: Division win your division, that's you know, everybody knows the

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Speaker 2: it's it's division games and loses all the other ones,

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Speaker 2: they could still win a division. You're not going to

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Speaker 2: go You're not going to see a six and eleven

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Speaker 2: the teams in a division would have to be completely

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean that that's what never happen, and they'd

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but a six and eleven team, for example, would

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Speaker 2: be if they didn't make the playoffs, we'll be picking

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, maybe earlier.

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Speaker 2: So you would have to have four of the worst

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Speaker 3: I mean that never ever, it's that's rare than Seattle.

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Speaker 2: It's not. It's never happened that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost impossible to happen.

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Speaker 3: A point I wanted to make about that yesterday that

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Speaker 2: He's my point with the whole thing. Mike de Corsi,

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Speaker 2: why should an eight win team host a twelve win team?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, when you when your division, yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know this is like this. You know, if you want

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And my point is none of the schedules are

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Speaker 2: That's and that's what I told them, Like, the schedules

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Speaker 3: But at least the ones in your division are close,

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Speaker 3: you know, the four teams of division play a similar,

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Speaker 2: You know, we're going to see the teams in the

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Speaker 3: Aren't great, right, and don't project to be great? One

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Speaker 3: that way, they're projected to have the hardest schedule in

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Speaker 2: And and you know, this isn't this isn't like college

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Speaker 2: I can tell you who. I can tell you who.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers schedule is going to be five years from now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's a couple of variables, but right yeah.

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Speaker 2: Other than you know, the teams, you know, a couple

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Speaker 3: You can still pencil in wherever seeding they're in, they're

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Speaker 2: Team, for example, the Steelers twenty twenty let's go to

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven schedule. That's that's even two years from.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, Well, we know based on six games matter what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that they're going to play the Bengals twice, the

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Speaker 2: forty nine Ers, and then there are three games that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they play West. I guess the twenty seven they

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Speaker 2: Right, But if you know, if teams are making their

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Speaker 2: own schedule like they do in Okay, so this twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six win team.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's why you look at stuff. You know,

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Speaker 2: they have their ratings out there and the strength of

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Speaker 3: And again we talked about this yesterday. I like the

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Speaker 2: No, but to that point, that works against anybody. That's

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It seems like the one most talked about too. Yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: I still think there's there's going to be a reasonable

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Speaker 3: That happen to eliminate it.

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Speaker 3: Will stick around. Yeah, they need to get to twenty four.

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Speaker 2: They get to twenty twenty two, okay, twenty two to ten.

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Speaker 2: There'll be some kind of modified proposal to what this was. Right, right,

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Speaker 3: The way I understand this proposal was just banning the

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Speaker 2: I would go back to the yeah, yeah, pre two

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Speaker 3: Right, no matter who it is, anyone with the ball

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Speaker 2: I've also seen the argument put out there, well that

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Speaker 3: Right, Like, I was in here thinking if there's a

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Speaker 3: I hope that's how it goes, but we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I think that I think that would get much more

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Speaker 3: I would also think it's easier to officiate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a design. It's a design play

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Speaker 3: I'm glad it got close. So it makes me think

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Speaker 2: I would think, so, yeah, And then you know, I

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Speaker 3: It, which is what okay something said for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody can show me how you can stop it regularly,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to see that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So let's get to a break. I am

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Speaker 4: Theush Push survives.

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Speaker 2: Barely by the skin of its well tush. It is

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Speaker 2: I were just talking about that in the previous segment, Bob,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just I don't. I just don't

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Speaker 4: We love offense. Anything that benefits the offense is good,

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Speaker 2: Ask you about that, Yeah, yeah, that one. That one

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that Judy Batista speculated on

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Speaker 4: I'm just glad for now that it maintains the integrity

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Speaker 2: Well, let's go down the rabbit hole with that, bob,

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Speaker 3: We think eighteen games definitely happen.

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Speaker 2: At some point, eighteen is going to happen, and it's

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Speaker 3: Little bit more.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, again, I think that the NFL regular

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Speaker 3: I've heard some people throw out trying to create new rivalries.

439
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 3: Eagles play the Steelers every year, the two New York

440
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 3: teams play every year, the two LA teams play every year.

441
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: But you start doing the you start connecting the dots.

442
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: But there's still there's still gonna be an extra game though,

443
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 2: because if that year that you playing the you're gonna

444
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 2: play the Eagles twice.

445
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 3: Four teams if they happen to be the same seed

446
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: as you, it would happen rarely.

447
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 2: So we're gonna have to see some kind of tweaking

448
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: of the schedule one way or the other.

449
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: But what's funny, though, Like when you do the AFC

450
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 3: NFC and you go you draw a line from the

451
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 3: teams that all should play each other, there's not as

452
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 3: many obvious ones as you think, and all of a sudden,

453
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 3: you got Arizona playing the Dolphins or something.

454
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Speaker 4: How about this, the eighteenth game is an international game, You're.

455
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: Still gonna play somebody.

456
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: You still have to figure out who you're going to play, though.

457
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: But I could definitely see what I mean, Yeah, I

458
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 3: think that will happen.

459
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Speaker 4: I'm just looking for yeah, because I think that's another

460
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 4: area where the league's gonna want to continue to grow

461
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 4: and expand. And so if the eighteenth game is an

462
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 4: international game, maybe they figured out how to work that out.

463
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, make make more teams playing overseas, make

464
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 4: more teams play overseas. Maybe it opens up more venues,

465
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 4: more different countries.

466
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: I definitely think that's in the works.

467
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Speaker 3: I think the eighteenth when it gets to an eighteen

468
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: game schedule, I think every team will go overseas one.

469
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's all part of the of the processor.

470
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: I just don't know how you pick that additional team

471
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: that you're going to play unless it's it's the other

472
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 2: because you play you play one division in each conference

473
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: outside of every year, Like I'm looking here at the

474
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 2: Steelers schedules for the next four years. So in twenty

475
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: twenty eight, they play the the AFC East. They also

476
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: match up against the NFC East those they have the

477
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: NFC South team that finishes with the same record as them.

478
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: They have the AFC West and AFC South teams that

479
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: also finished with the same record as them. That doesn't

480
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 2: leave any other divisions.

481
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Speaker 4: Let me just bread this out. It's not the same record,

482
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 4: it's the same model spot.

483
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: The only other thing that they could do would be

484
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: to match up against the other team from the NFC

485
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 2: that you don't play that year. So for example, that

486
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 2: year they play the NFC South.

487
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: You play two third place teams in the NFL or whatever.

488
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 3: Or knowing the NFL, I just thought on me if

489
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 3: it's a good idea or not, but everyone on the

490
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: planet would tune in. It's some boring time of the year.

491
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: You get a bunch of ping pong balls, Here comes

492
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: the Steelers, and then you pick one out of the

493
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 3: NFC bin. Oh, you got the Commanders this year. You

494
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 3: know that's your last game. Okay, you know everybody would watch,

495
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: That's true, everybody would hopefully.

496
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Speaker 4: That's also the same year that the NFL goes to

497
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 4: My greatest fear for the draft one one pick a

498
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 4: day for the entire month of April, and uh, you

499
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 4: know it's all.

500
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Speaker 3: I'd be on the.

501
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Speaker 2: I'd really be on the air a lot Williamson on

502
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: the air.

503
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Speaker 4: I mean, right, I'll give you a couple of years

504
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 4: to get those vocals right, right, Maybe you can start

505
00:25:53,000 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 4: doing bench presses. But I don't know. I I just

506
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 4: think that and I always suggest that to be absurd,

507
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 4: but I think that, you know, absurdity sometimes. Yeah, oh man.

508
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: I do think there's a lot of merit though, to

509
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 3: building your team to win your specific division. You know

510
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 3: your geography, what are the rates? How do we you know,

511
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 3: do the Steelers draft? Why you're black? If it's not

512
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: for Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry, you know what I mean?

513
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 4: Yeah? Uh right, and yeah, and I think divisions have

514
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: developed identities.

515
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's no doubt about that.

516
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, you know, I like it. It interests me,

517
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 4: you know, when there are random games on, you know,

518
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 4: I often would I would rather watch a division game usually.

519
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 4: I mean there are obvious except but I mean, if

520
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 4: you know, for example, if it's I don't know, Buffalo

521
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 4: against New England or the Cardinals against Jacksonville, I'd watch

522
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 4: the division game just because even when it seems like,

523
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 4: for example, Buffalo against New England. You look at those

524
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 4: two teams right now, that would not seem to be

525
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 4: a very closely contested game based on what you think

526
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 4: of those teams and where they have been recently in

527
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 4: terms of standings and stuff. But division games, I think

528
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: are always more likely to surprise you with the outcome

529
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: because of the familiarity of the teams we mentioned.

530
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: Earlier too, like Jaggs, Texans might not move the needle,

531
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 3: but it might in five years. You know, Stroud and

532
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: Lawrence is great, you know who.

533
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, So anyway, Yeah, I'm a I'm a believer in

534
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 4: the division thing. I I like a lot of a

535
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 4: lot about it, and uh, you know, I would be

536
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 4: in favor of maintaining that.

537
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: While we're on that subject, Bub and I just thought

538
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: about this. We haven't really talked about Cleveland trying to

539
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: build a dome in in up in Cleveland out by

540
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: their up by their airport. That is non a f

541
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: C North type football. I mean, when you think about

542
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: the a f C North, you're thinking about teams that

543
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: are playing out in the elements and doing those kind

544
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: of things. It just kind of goes against what the

545
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: division is about in many ways.

546
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 4: Sure, But I mean I think that that is a

547
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: reflection of their current ownership.

548
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: So it's not even retractable. It's just do I think

549
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: it's just a dome. Like buff Buffalo is building a

550
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: new stadium right now. If if somebody wanted to say,

551
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 2: if Buffalo should have a dome, and I would get Okay,

552
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: I get it. You know, Minnesota should have a dome,

553
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: right because it's ridiculously cold up there, you know, in

554
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: the middle of the winter. But Buffalo said, no, We're

555
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: not building a dome because this is what we are.

556
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: This is part of our our you know, what makes

557
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: us the Bills, the Browns, building a dome stadium in

558
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: Cleveland goes just goes against the AFC North in general

559
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: and what they.

560
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 4: Should be and what everything you think about, you know,

561
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 4: Sundays on the on the shores of Lake Ears.

562
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: It actually takes away one of their few things that

563
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: that gives them an advantage on some Sundays, Like there's

564
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 2: been some games up there where weather has been a

565
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: major factor and it levels the playing field for some

566
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: bad Browns teams or Red eight eight or that. You

567
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: might explain that one to our younger listeners.

568
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, right, that was a brutally bitter cold day

569
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 4: where the Browns were hosting the Oakland Raiders and they

570
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 4: were in position. The Browns were in position to kick

571
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: a game winning field goal, and in his in his

572
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'll call it genius, Sam Ertigliana decided, well,

573
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 4: let's run one more play and he tells Brian Sipe,

574
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 4: you know, if it's not the play was red right

575
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 4: eighty eight. If it's not there right away, throw it

576
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 4: into the dog bomb, will kick the field goal and

577
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: win the game. Well, Brian Sipe didn't do that. He

578
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 4: threw the pass into the end zone, it was intercepted

579
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 4: and the Browns did not get to go to advance.

580
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 4: That wasn't an AFC championship game, I don't think.

581
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Speaker 3: No.

582
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: They saved that for games against the Broncos.

583
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, the Browns were very much a

584
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: Super Bowl contending team that year in my opinion.

585
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: Oh they were many of those years during the eighties. Yeah,

586
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: they just couldn't get.

587
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: Over the hollow.

588
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was you know, I laughed very hard that day.

589
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: I remember that was very enjoyable. But you know that

590
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: that's a day, like you were describing, deal where it

591
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 4: should have been an advantage for the Browns. Cold, raw, windy.

592
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 4: I see all those things against a California team, but

593
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: they still choked. So, you know, Yeah, getting back to

594
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 4: the original point, I wouldn't be in favor of a

595
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 4: dome in Cleveland. I don't think you need a dome

596
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: in Cleveland to pack the joint those fans. You know,

597
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 4: it's like putting a dome over lambeau Field. Yeah, I

598
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 4: just don't think that those fans need that to show up.

599
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: What they may need is, you know, respective respectable competitive team.

600
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 4: But who knows, Maybe ownership now believes up there that

601
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 4: it's easier to build a dome than it is to

602
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 4: be a respectable competitive team.

603
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: Lads, do you see the Browns as a distant fourth

604
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: in the North right now?

605
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 4: I do, Yeah, I don't, I don't know distant. You know,

606
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 4: last is last, to paraphrase Juju, last is last. The

607
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: Browns is the Browns. I just don't have a lot

608
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 4: of belief that, you know. I think ownership up there

609
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 4: sometimes gets a little too involved that you know. I

610
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 4: will never forget the look on Andrew Berry's face their

611
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 4: GM when they announced that Shador Sanders picky. I mean,

612
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 4: so who knows. I don't. I don't. I really I

613
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: don't know what to expect from Browns. They don't seem

614
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 4: to me to do a lot of things where you

615
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: after they do, then you say, oh, that makes sense.

616
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 4: You know, even the Miles Garrett contract, the Deshaun Watson

617
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: trade and the contract they gave him, the Johnny Manzel pick,

618
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 4: the Brady Quinn pick. It's you know, I I from

619
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 4: the franchise when it entered the NFL. The Cleveland franchise

620
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 4: entered the NFL in nineteen fifty. It was so it

621
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 4: was almost like a well oiled machine. You know. The

622
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 4: Browns were They were always always, always near the top

623
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 4: of the Eastern Conference. You know, the NFL even attempted,

624
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: because the Browns were absorbed from the All American Football Conference.

625
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: They the NFL even attempted to embarrass them by their

626
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: very first NFL game, They had to play the defending

627
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 4: champion Eagles, and the Browns kicked their butt, kicked their butt.

628
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 4: The Browns were also very progressive in terms of African Americans,

629
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: Bill Willis, Mary and Motley, all those kind of guys.

630
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 4: You know, all the innovations Paul Brown made in terms

631
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 4: of game film and you know all of that stuff.

632
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 4: The Browns were the first franchise to have radio helmets,

633
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: in the radio signals and the helmets so that Paul

634
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 4: Brown could communicate directly with the quarterback.

635
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: That franchise is still on pretty well, that's just in Baltimore.

636
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 4: Now, right. But you know, again, like I said, so

637
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 4: many things about that franchise were cutting edge, so well

638
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 4: thought out, you know, just kind of I won't say militaristic,

639
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: but they offered like a well oiled platoon of soldiers

640
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 4: or you know whatever, whatever kind of comparison you want

641
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: to make. But now, I mean, I just I don't know.

642
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 4: You just never know what's going to happen. And as

643
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 4: I said, very rarely after it happens, when you go wow,

644
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: that makes a lot of sense. Wish I had thought.

645
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 3: Of that, Labs. You might have noticed it from the

646
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: article I wrote from you recently. I was not a

647
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: big fan of the direction of their draft either, right,

648
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: I mean doesn't add up to me at all. No

649
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: offensive line, mean, what are you doing?

650
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and all the picks they had it just

651
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, and yeah, the and the

652
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 4: the trading away from Travis Hunter.

653
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: Two quarterbacks, two running backs.

654
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: What are you doing if if they had, as you

655
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: pointed out, if they had used that bounty they received

656
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Speaker 4: from that to address the issues that their roster had,

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Speaker 4: than okay, but they squat they blew those picks. Those picks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't understand it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, right, I can't understand it.

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Speaker 2: Well, Bob, this is why we have you on the show,

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Speaker 2: because you are a true historian of the game and

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Speaker 2: insight into not just the Steelers but some other teams

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Speaker 2: in the division. And and I think people forget that's

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Speaker 2: two different franchises, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Right, the good one left out right.

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Speaker 4: And that's and that's why the Steelers hate the Ravens

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Speaker 4: because at the time it was Steelers Browns was bitter

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Speaker 4: from the beginning, and uh and the and the Ravens

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Speaker 4: are our Modell's Browns, and so there was a lot

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Speaker 4: of hatred. They're already built up. They didn't even have

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Speaker 4: to a lot of times, you know, with a new team,

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Speaker 4: not that the Ravens were an expansion team, but you

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Speaker 4: catch I drift, it's a new team there, it takes

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Speaker 4: a while before you start hating.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was that was a team that the Steelers

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Speaker 2: had just played in the playoffs like two years before that,

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Speaker 2: when they were the first Ravens team, like they had

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Speaker 2: just met in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: And beat them three times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was yeah, I mean, that was all

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Speaker 2: across you.

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Speaker 4: Think about it. The Steelers have done that twice to

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Speaker 4: that franchise nineteen ninety four, in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 4: beat them three times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, Bob, we will let you go and

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Speaker 2: appreciate you drop them by. We didn't uh, we didn't

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Speaker 2: get to talk all that much about the tush push

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Speaker 2: and all that stuff. But plenty of time to talk

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Speaker 2: about that, and there's there's plenty out there about it.

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Speaker 2: Everybody has their opinions about it.

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Speaker 4: But and thank thank you for not making me talk

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Speaker 4: about OTAs.

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Speaker 2: Oh, not a problem, not a problem at all. Are

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Speaker 2: you going to OTAs?

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Speaker 3: I said, we'll be broadcasting from down there next week.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, uhh, if you guys are

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Speaker 4: going to be broadcasting, I'll come down at least once

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Speaker 4: just to make funny stop.

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Speaker 2: By the cafeteria at least, you know where you can

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Speaker 2: stop by the table and talk to us while we're

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Speaker 2: on the air broadcasting during ota.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, all right, there you go, There you go.

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Speaker 2: Our guest has been Bob Labriola, editor of Steeler's Digest

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Speaker 2: in Steelers dot Com, the Dean of Doom, the lord

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Speaker 2: of living in his fears. He's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Driver here in the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: We will be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 4: At least.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson, and is Bob Labriola just said, there Matt.

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Speaker 2: Next week OTAs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually see football stuff.

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks of OTAs and we'll get a

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Speaker 2: week of mini camp as well. When I say a week,

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Speaker 2: they actually go Tuesday through Thursday. Okay, right, that's right, right,

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Speaker 2: So it's really nine practices on the field. They are

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Speaker 2: football like. Yeah, it's football like.

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Speaker 3: They were more.

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Speaker 2: Involved in the rookie mini camp.

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Speaker 3: So funny. I was on a Dynasty podcast this morning,

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Speaker 3: and I guess tooting first time they hand him the

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Speaker 3: ball he fumbles in Ota, we know he's a fumbler.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, and they're like, should we be worried about it?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, the big conversation was to be overreact to OTAs.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, you overreact to OTAs, but nobody hit them.

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Speaker 3: Nobody right.

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Speaker 2: It's like you can't even say, well, I hit you know,

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Speaker 2: hit the handoff, hit my shoulder pad, and.

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Speaker 3: I right right, right right, or something like. That's not

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Speaker 3: a great sign a fumbler. No cackle didn't blast him

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Speaker 3: in the ball and flying.

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Speaker 2: Out and he knew it wasn't he wasn't gonna get it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably just like, don't fumble, don't fumble, oh.

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Speaker 2: Man, don't think about pink elephants.

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Speaker 3: So that's quite me if I'm wrong. But next week

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Speaker 3: we got Memorial Day no show three from down there.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, down there Friday, no show. So basically

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Speaker 2: from here on out, folks, at least until mini camps

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Speaker 2: or i should say training camp starts at the end

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Speaker 2: of July, and I'm just guessing here that's probably starts

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Speaker 2: sometime around you know, if you can do the math,

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Speaker 2: just go backwards two weeks from when they play their

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Speaker 2: first preseason game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so when it camp opens you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: So you're probably looking at somewhere in the one, two three,

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Speaker 2: the fourth week of July that the training camp will start.

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Speaker 2: We will go back to four days a week and

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Speaker 2: actually or something sorry, five days a week. Actually during

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Speaker 2: training camp, every day they practice, we do a show.

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Speaker 2: We do a show, so sometimes it's more than seven

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Speaker 2: day a week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, so good stuff. So we'll have

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Speaker 3: three shows. Players should be joining us next week too, right, Yes.

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Speaker 2: We will have player interviews and everything. I should say

758
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Speaker 2: though that we won't have video down there. Friday of

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00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: this week will be Friday this week will be our

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Speaker 2: last day for video on YouTube until until training camp

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Speaker 2: starts off, and we will have our all of our

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Speaker 2: shows at training camp throughout the rest of the season.

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Speaker 2: Then you can find us on like every other platform

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Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, you can still listen and uh obviously

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Speaker 2: we'll still do our Twitter Thursday and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it won't be much different. Good stuff. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's just I just like to get back down there.

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Speaker 3: And I haven't seen any of the new players in

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Speaker 3: person yet, really, I mean, I want to see you're

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Speaker 3: like Why You're Black is ridiculously huge. I've never seen

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Speaker 3: Metcalf in person. I mean, I bet it's.

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Speaker 2: A little whoa you know. So, So we'll get an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to do all that next week again. We'll be

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live during the OTA practices so well, and we'll will.

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Speaker 3: Be commenting on like boy, that is a heck of

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Speaker 3: a catch.

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Speaker 2: Orge. We can't cover three right now, but we will

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Speaker 2: have players coming over to join us once the session

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Speaker 2: is done, so you want to hear that. We'll get

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Speaker 2: some interviews with some of these guys. There's a list

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Speaker 2: out there of guys that have been requested. You'll really

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Speaker 2: like the list of guys. We'll get some of it.

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Speaker 2: We won't get all of them, but we'll get some

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Speaker 2: of them because there's only nine sessions total. But you

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Speaker 2: will enjoy listening or being able to hear these guys

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Speaker 2: chat with us for ten minutes or so at the

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Speaker 2: end of the show. You won't want to miss that,

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Speaker 2: and you can't get it anywhere else. That's key, that's

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Speaker 2: the key. That's why we do these shows. But that's

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Speaker 2: going to do it for hour number one. He is

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie, you're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: with more right after this