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Speaker 1: Star in Prisot. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips and
Speaker 1: Bill Jones, and it is a Tuesday edition of Talking
Speaker 1: Cowboys from inside the SWBC Mortgage Studios Here at the
Speaker 1: Star in PRIs Go super Bowl. Bill Here, I have
Speaker 1: returned like Rob and ever as we are two days
Speaker 1: away from the road to the super Bowl. Whoa Bill
Speaker 1: Jones and lockstep with Jerry Jones. There you go show.
Speaker 1: We missed you yesterday, William Well, I missed y'all too.
Speaker 1: I missed y'all, but I know that you filled. Rob
Speaker 1: filled this seat very capably and physically. Yes, I did
Speaker 1: my best. I did my best. And now wow, we're
Speaker 1: already previewing. I mean, we are making picks at the
Speaker 1: end of this show. It it's on a Tuesday. I
Speaker 1: got no pick because the team is traveling tomorrow and
Speaker 1: so we won't be nothing doing Talking Cowboys tomorrow. That's lazy. Wait, wait,
Speaker 1: don't you haven't even thought about it? About it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because you aren't on the same schedule as the team.
Speaker 1: In the morning, that score just comes to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like that, yea. And the team is out on
Speaker 1: the practice field okay, outdoors three days in a row. Day, yes,
Speaker 1: three days in a row. Do you understand why? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because Gronk said that they practiced too much inside. No,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say this thing. Now, do you realize
Speaker 1: this is the first grass game since the second game
Speaker 1: of the season. I did not realize that that's why
Speaker 1: they're out there. Yeah, Washington the last one, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: So there's a big sign in the locker room about
Speaker 1: what kind of cleats to use to get used to
Speaker 1: what they're projecting. The field would be at Soldier Field,
Speaker 1: so they haven't had to wear any grass cleats since
Speaker 1: Washington week two. That rock that does this? Is it
Speaker 1: that difficult as you tell me? Wow? I just thought
Speaker 1: shoes with shoes changed cleats for change gates. But I
Speaker 1: didn't have to practice on grass before I played on glass.
Speaker 1: I grew up on grass. But doesn't doesn't that help
Speaker 1: your legs? Though? Glass definitely helps my legs and it
Speaker 1: slows down those little jack rabbit Why to think I
Speaker 1: can figure them out? A little bit quicker, are you
Speaker 1: are you just put that in their minds right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're slower they are. Having said that the turf is
Speaker 1: a little different than it was back in your day,
Speaker 1: we'll see it. And and my turf my home was turf,
Speaker 1: which put me at disadvantage because trust me, they are quicker.
Speaker 1: They feel quicker on AstroTurf that they just seem to
Speaker 1: have a little bit more bounce. So I have to
Speaker 1: speed up my brain at home, like AstroTurf. Yeah, be
Speaker 1: worth stadiums. I believe we're probably with Minneapolis Chicago. When
Speaker 1: your tackle, does it feel like you're landing on the soda?
Speaker 1: Minneapolis chicasogo and wait, Minnieapolis Chicago astrodome. The astrodome was
Speaker 1: the worst. Well you, sunny, you mentioned the astrodome and AstroTurf.
Speaker 1: I would love to ask my sunning laws, who are
Speaker 1: all yeah, age twenty five through thirty three, if they
Speaker 1: have any idea what how the term AstroTurf ever came about,
Speaker 1: or if they've ever heard of the term astro turf
Speaker 1: that follow that, follow that up, if what their interpretation is.
Speaker 1: If you say, yeah, and we're playing on grass, We'll
Speaker 1: let me say that Vicky's that's that common side track here,
Speaker 1: Like I said, went over my way, over my head.
Speaker 1: I just got it. You. I don't think you should
Speaker 1: make a huge deal out of Hey, we're playing on grass,
Speaker 1: just we you know, except for the weather, except for
Speaker 1: just you know what mother nature brought. The field itself
Speaker 1: was never anything that we had to just master that
Speaker 1: week before we played. You know. But there's different cleats though, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's different cleats. Stop saying that, man, damn it. I
Speaker 1: know it's different cleats. It's like the Mutters we used
Speaker 1: to play with the high school, right but just it, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't think it took that much of
Speaker 1: an effort just because you're playing on a different type
Speaker 1: of turf. Let me ask you this, Mickey Um. In
Speaker 1: the past, has Jason Garrett when they played at Washington,
Speaker 1: they always practiced the whole week, not the whole week, right,
Speaker 1: So that's different grass all all training camp too, right way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's. I don't think they're trying to
Speaker 1: mimic the weather this week. I mean it's it's it's
Speaker 1: gonna be sixty degrees today and sunny, and you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you won't get that. Well, Chicago on Thursday night, you
Speaker 1: either here your preference, regardless of whether it's turf or grass.
Speaker 1: Would you rather practice in nice weather outdoors or inside? Oh?
Speaker 1: Nice weather outdoor? Exactly? Nice? Weak? Do I mean you come?
Speaker 1: I'm a Texas guy, Like I said, we grew up
Speaker 1: on just grass and so you know, playing all those years,
Speaker 1: you know, teenager whatever. We didn't even know what astro
Speaker 1: turf was when we first got on astro if that
Speaker 1: was like a luxury you're in high schools. I never
Speaker 1: played on it. I didn't play on it until I
Speaker 1: got into college and at by your Classic for the
Speaker 1: most part. So that was big time stuff back then,
Speaker 1: and it was nice and new. But then as you
Speaker 1: started getting into it, you realize the dangers of it,
Speaker 1: you know, to your body and also to your psyche.
Speaker 1: If you have somebody running a four three running right
Speaker 1: by you and you're wondering, like, wow, that guy's much
Speaker 1: faster than usual, you know, than he is on glass.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was new then. Now it's just normal.
Speaker 1: It's no big deal. I think the first time I
Speaker 1: saw grass field, or actually I mean an artificial turf field,
Speaker 1: was between my junior and senior year in high school,
Speaker 1: we went to Northern Illinois for a journalism workshop and
Speaker 1: we got to play off like a pick up football
Speaker 1: game on their field and was like whatever, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was a middle linebacker. It was
Speaker 1: a gradassket right. You realize how that turf was if
Speaker 1: you fell on it, like all of a sudden, you
Speaker 1: skin your knees up, and it's like, who wants a
Speaker 1: play on this stuff? And in the astro in the
Speaker 1: astrodome you could actually see where the stitching was failing. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just gaps about the Eagle stadium just as
Speaker 1: bad if worthy. Right. Oh yeah, I believe that was
Speaker 1: can I mean with the why I received his name
Speaker 1: to two acls on the same play, Yes, toward both
Speaker 1: as I want to say, maybe Yesdell Davis from I
Speaker 1: think he was the LSU kid. Oh yeah. It was
Speaker 1: like carpet that had gaps in it. Basically it was
Speaker 1: creat that was painted grain. Michael Irvin can tell you
Speaker 1: all about it. Yeah, um, you know. But in the
Speaker 1: past and in fact for since last year, Cowboys getting
Speaker 1: on a roll. I mean, Jason Garrett is on a
Speaker 1: routine that they are going outdoors for practice on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and it's inside the rest of the week. And and
Speaker 1: I include that went on this year as well. But
Speaker 1: you know, he is a creature of routine as far
Speaker 1: as that goes, And so it is it's a reason,
Speaker 1: I mean a lot, a lot of it is if
Speaker 1: the team's going, well, we're going to do the same thing.
Speaker 1: You know, it's almost like a superstition. Maybe he's just
Speaker 1: given up on the security part of it. It's like
Speaker 1: anybody watching watch us practice, go ahead, Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: no secrets anymore. Yeah, all right. It was a very
Speaker 1: short Jason Garrett press conference today. The media out of
Speaker 1: questions after about three about about the Jerry Jones on
Speaker 1: the fan making headlines this morning with his spot on
Speaker 1: the fan this morning. I think every question for fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes was about Jason Garrett. Am I wrong, No, you're right,
Speaker 1: just just his faith in Jason and um what he
Speaker 1: needs to do to secure another contract. And Jerry doubled
Speaker 1: down on what he said after the game. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: question we wanted to know what it was, and Jerry said,
Speaker 1: there's no bar. So that for what it's worth, not
Speaker 1: that there isn't a level that you have to get
Speaker 1: to in terms of performance. Yeah, six and ten is
Speaker 1: probably not going to get it done. But look at it,
Speaker 1: all of that makes sense until after the season, right,
Speaker 1: it's all predicating on how far he goes. If we
Speaker 1: do wild card round, yes that's a great win. But
Speaker 1: if you lose the next week in the division opener,
Speaker 1: then he's out. I believe if he goes to the
Speaker 1: to the championship, to the next round NFC Championship, then
Speaker 1: I think we're talking a whole different thing because if
Speaker 1: we're in that NFC Championship, that means things have started clicking,
Speaker 1: and that's the Jason Garrett and the Cowboys that we've
Speaker 1: expected all along. And then Jerry Jones will sit there
Speaker 1: and say, see that's why I waited. Here go Jason,
Speaker 1: this is a contract. Well it Rob told me what
Speaker 1: he said. I said, what was the gist of everything
Speaker 1: he said? And he told me the most important thing
Speaker 1: and I had to wait like seventeen minutes through the
Speaker 1: press conference for the last thing. He said, Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: to be coaching in the NFL next in the NFL. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was the headline maker. Yeah, and then it was
Speaker 1: thanks Jerry. Yeah, they didn't even well, they were out
Speaker 1: of time, out of time, So that was the last
Speaker 1: time I didn't hear it. That was the last thing yourself. Okay, okay, Rob,
Speaker 1: brief us like you something, Man, I have to do
Speaker 1: a good job as well. I mean, I don't care
Speaker 1: if you're out of time. You've got the odor. He's
Speaker 1: not going to pedalyze the station. That's a cliffhanger. It's
Speaker 1: like a Sopranos ending to five years of shows. Right,
Speaker 1: So when I listened to the archive, I'll have to
Speaker 1: do is go to the n to the end. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right? That was that was the money quote. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is a money quote, Rob, Rob. He summed it
Speaker 1: up perfectly for me. When when I asked him what
Speaker 1: you said, Uh, he said Jason to be coaching in
Speaker 1: the NFL. That is so cryptic. I didn't think Jerry
Speaker 1: had that in it. That's very cool. I mean he's
Speaker 1: endorsing Jason as a terrific coach. I mean he said
Speaker 1: he's he's the guy for the job. He also said
Speaker 1: that Paul Mesican. But again it goes back to the
Speaker 1: very last thing he said, and that's what the media
Speaker 1: is jumping on to. Hey, anybody out they want to
Speaker 1: take him out of my hands, Like, what is that.
Speaker 1: He's here, he'll be available. Well, the topic column us
Speaker 1: in New York are projecting he'll be the new Giants.
Speaker 1: I'm sure are they? I know it's been already, it
Speaker 1: really has. And I would imagine that cryptic statement that'll
Speaker 1: help you they ate. Oh my goodness, Yeah, greaz Well,
Speaker 1: I was listening this morning to a Chicago station trying
Speaker 1: to get a feel on what they're talking about about
Speaker 1: the Bears, and they're they're talking about the Cubs. They're
Speaker 1: not talking about the Bears, but because they did Russell, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so anyway, but they did say they did have
Speaker 1: a Bears beat writer to come on, and they referenced
Speaker 1: the Jerry Jones quote and about Jason Garrett, and so
Speaker 1: it's you know, in this day and age, he says
Speaker 1: anything on a Tuesday morning, Jerry Jones is making headlines
Speaker 1: around the nation, if not the world with what he
Speaker 1: says on that radio station. Well, I gotta say, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a few coaches that could be in Jason Garrett's
Speaker 1: same position right now. Chicago coach. Everybody was crazy about him,
Speaker 1: you know, I know they're not putting the trigger this quickly,
Speaker 1: but still the inconsistencies by these teams that were just
Speaker 1: lauded last year to be the up and coming, especially
Speaker 1: from the QB positions, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, we've got these same problems that Chicago has
Speaker 1: always had back to where they were. The Rams were
Speaker 1: supposed to be so amazing. You know, head coach is
Speaker 1: supposed to be this genius. He's on talk shows, he's
Speaker 1: probably hanging out with Jimmy Kimmel, and now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they can't, except for this last game, they can.
Speaker 1: But it's like it's week to week with these teams,
Speaker 1: you know, and Cleveland was going to the super Here
Speaker 1: you go, kitchens Is even had a leg record yet
Speaker 1: and they were going to the super Bow. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean these next three opponents, not to look past the
Speaker 1: Bears are a lot of ways it's mirror images of
Speaker 1: each other. I mean, it's three opponents they've got coming up,
Speaker 1: just like the Cowboys, the league playoff teams last year, Philly,
Speaker 1: LA and Chicago that have just struggled to find any
Speaker 1: type of consistency that they had last year. It's not
Speaker 1: just this team, and it's so strange when you look
Speaker 1: at these teams that were just I mean, they were
Speaker 1: just the darlings of the NFL. Trubisky was on as well,
Speaker 1: on his way man, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they just let you know how how how tough it
Speaker 1: is to be consistent as a player. Okay, you we
Speaker 1: take for granted the Georgians, the Lebrons, and the I mean,
Speaker 1: we can just even stay local with the larger starbacks
Speaker 1: that Tony Dorsets, the Image Smiths. We take for granted
Speaker 1: their consistency, and we just talk about the interceptions that
Speaker 1: we got here that was taken for granted. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing around here. I copied off of
Speaker 1: Charlie Waters. Somebody else copied off of me. That culture
Speaker 1: will continue, No, man, that is that is not always
Speaker 1: the case. And it's so confusing as to why in
Speaker 1: such a short period of time these guys have showed
Speaker 1: this inconsistency on several teams that we've been looking at.
Speaker 1: You know, it reminded me of that when I saw
Speaker 1: Zekiel Elliott's rushing total and somewhat caught me by surprise
Speaker 1: because I hadn't been following it week to week, he's
Speaker 1: got nine hundred and ninety yards of rushing, so he
Speaker 1: needs ten yards for a thousand yard season, which would
Speaker 1: be three out of four and would have had four
Speaker 1: out of four if not for the suspension. Right, he
Speaker 1: came up to sixty yards short. So I said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the record? Why? I said, well, it's Emmett Smith, right,
Speaker 1: eleven consecutive one of thousand yards seasons. Wow. And it's
Speaker 1: not just a thousand, right, any running back these days,
Speaker 1: on us level, on Zeke's level, a thousand, they would
Speaker 1: be disappointed just seventeen. Yeah, way more than a thousand. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's the consistency. That's impressive. That's and that's why I
Speaker 1: always thought that was what made Emmett special, his consistencies.
Speaker 1: And he had always talked about that, what do you
Speaker 1: want to He goes, I don't want to be one
Speaker 1: of these guys where oh I get fourteen hundred, then
Speaker 1: I get eight hundred. I want to be consistent. And
Speaker 1: he worked very hard at being consistent and he probably
Speaker 1: and he came up short three seasons in the nine hundreds,
Speaker 1: so he would have had fourteen if if if David
Speaker 1: Shula would have handled handed him the ball his rookie
Speaker 1: year at ninety he would have had a thousand yards
Speaker 1: his rookie season and then the other last the last
Speaker 1: two that he didn't have. He was in the nine
Speaker 1: hundreds and they were awful those years, so he could
Speaker 1: have had fourteen consecutive one thousand yards seasons. And I
Speaker 1: like that. I like the way he did it versus
Speaker 1: say La Damian Thomason. You know, everybody made that big push.
Speaker 1: He made the big push for two thousand. Well after
Speaker 1: the two thousand man he was done right, you know,
Speaker 1: you push for that two thousand, that's great, you know,
Speaker 1: but Emmett was clearly more consistent, and that's what puts
Speaker 1: him at the top, because you know, you start going
Speaker 1: for these mercurial and hook your leading efforts with two
Speaker 1: thousand yards, you don't realize how much your body is
Speaker 1: taking on. I don't care what size you are, I
Speaker 1: don't care how big the opponent is. You run for
Speaker 1: two thousand yards, that means you're getting a whole lot
Speaker 1: more hits. You're getting a whole lot more hits, and
Speaker 1: you don't realize it because of the euphoria of what
Speaker 1: you're doing and all of a suddenly in the offseason
Speaker 1: and then the next season comes around, it's just something's gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: something's depleted. It's like you played two seasons in one. Wow.
Speaker 1: It might have caught up with DeMarcus Murder DeMarco, DeMarco Murray,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus DeMarco because he had those three I think it
Speaker 1: was three in a row thousand, but he hit that
Speaker 1: what was in seventeen eighteen hundred and my favorite guy,
Speaker 1: by the way, nothing after one of the most day.
Speaker 1: He had a ton of touches in college too. Yeah
Speaker 1: that was this is pro. That's post knee surgery as well,
Speaker 1: because in college he was much faster. But yeah, when
Speaker 1: he got here he had to change his whole style
Speaker 1: of running. Amazing to me, he was real pro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he really was. I love that guy. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. All Right, we continue with more.
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma Suoners and Baylor Bears face off in the Big
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Speaker 1: will be there. Well, those Baylor fans help fill up
Speaker 1: the stadium, that is the question. Well, you mean there
Speaker 1: they will, Bill And I think they will. I think
Speaker 1: Baylor will be the out in full force. You know
Speaker 1: OU played TCU two your great last year. It was
Speaker 1: OU in Texas. I mean that thing and what a
Speaker 1: scene that was the year before TCU against Ou, and
Speaker 1: it was I was very surprised how there were so
Speaker 1: many more OU fans there than TCU fans there or
Speaker 1: TCU bit now it's smaller school or whatever. But they,
Speaker 1: you know, the city of Fort Worth didn't jump in
Speaker 1: like they normally do. But I think every Virtue, every
Speaker 1: Baptist in North Texas is going to try to be
Speaker 1: at this one because I think Baylor's got a good
Speaker 1: shot at Battista A Law. That's the thing. That Baylor's got.
Speaker 1: They've gave got quite a clientele out there. Okay, So
Speaker 1: so every Baptist in North Texas be at at AT
Speaker 1: and T Stadium because it could be this could be
Speaker 1: the biggest win in Baylor football hit. Baylor's had a
Speaker 1: lot of football, great football wins. But Baylor has a
Speaker 1: chance to make this college football playoff if if Oregon
Speaker 1: knocks off Utah on Friday night, they'll know before the
Speaker 1: game on Saturday that if they win that game, they
Speaker 1: got as good a shot as anybody I'm getting in
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Speaker 1: all right? Are you going? I probably am going? You're
Speaker 1: hoping to. I've got a little high school football game
Speaker 1: I'm interested into at two thirty, which is South Lake
Speaker 1: Carol and Duncanville, which is the battle of heavyweights. That's
Speaker 1: a monster game in McKinney at two thirty on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Finally lost to that tought. Yeah, but Lone Star's got
Speaker 1: a quite a team. Frisco lone Star and that went
Speaker 1: went to overtime Love Texas High School. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1: So when do the other conference championship? When are they played?
Speaker 1: PAC twelve is Friday night its word to get in
Speaker 1: Utah SEC, which is Georgia and LSU is at two
Speaker 1: thirty on Saturday afternoon. The ACC game, which is Clemson
Speaker 1: versus Virginia, is at six o'clock Saturday night, and Ohio
Speaker 1: State in Wisconsin the Big Ten title game is seven
Speaker 1: o'clock Saturday night. So if I went to the Big
Speaker 1: if I went to Baylor, Oklahoma, that's an eleven AM,
Speaker 1: I would not get home in time to watch the
Speaker 1: start of the SEC. Although you can record it, right,
Speaker 1: Yes you can. They do have that feature available for you, Vicky.
Speaker 1: They don't call it recording any more. Yeah, right, like
Speaker 1: like grass grass, Yeah, okay. What is it that should
Speaker 1: give Cowboys fans hope here in the month of December?
Speaker 1: What is the what's the biggest thing that gives them
Speaker 1: hope that this thing can be turned around and they
Speaker 1: can make a run. I think you touched on it earlier,
Speaker 1: and it's about the the problems with the teams that
Speaker 1: they're that they're going to be playing. Everyone's in the
Speaker 1: same position. The parody hate that word. I hate the
Speaker 1: outcome of it all as well. The parody in this
Speaker 1: league is uh, the hope that the Cowboys have that
Speaker 1: they can win out, they can win out and also
Speaker 1: the incompetence of the Philadelphia Eagles definitely something that they
Speaker 1: can look forward to five and seven. I mean, I
Speaker 1: you know, Doug Peterson said after I think disgusted was
Speaker 1: the word he used. I mean, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if the Cowboys gonna win this division by default,
Speaker 1: but it's possibly that's what's gonna happen. But they Jason
Speaker 1: witn't spoke about it yesterday. They can't have that mindset,
Speaker 1: you know. He said, we just we have to play better.
Speaker 1: We can't fight, and we can't focus on what other
Speaker 1: teams are doing. And he said a lot he said
Speaker 1: something inustrying. He said, executions a broad term that everybody's
Speaker 1: been thrown around. You know, there's you just gotta play better,
Speaker 1: and there's got a level you have to meet to
Speaker 1: be able to execute better. And he put a lot
Speaker 1: of the responsibility on the players to do that because
Speaker 1: they turn on the film and they see what a
Speaker 1: large large group of these guys were here last year
Speaker 1: that won ten games. They can do it. The problems
Speaker 1: We've been talking about this for weeks now that there
Speaker 1: are plays to be made that they haven't made. Can
Speaker 1: they do that? Can they rally together in a month
Speaker 1: and do that? That's the question. I mean. I saw
Speaker 1: teams and this is I tried to do this weekend.
Speaker 1: I tried to see teams that have the same hiccups
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys had throughout the season and how they
Speaker 1: overcome it. If they overcame it, and you know, did
Speaker 1: they do it defensively? Was it sometimes just Murphy's law?
Speaker 1: They finally got a good bounce. Wasn't the fact that
Speaker 1: they were just so determined as a team, that's so
Speaker 1: unified as a team to where one hiccup dudn't cast
Speaker 1: this cloud over our huddle offensively or defensive. One hiccup, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just play right on through it, guy, No big deal.
Speaker 1: We've done this before. We're gonna play through it. I
Speaker 1: saw the Ravens defense. That's how they react to everything negative.
Speaker 1: Because Lamar Jackson didn't have a great game. They played
Speaker 1: against the heck of a team. We have another great defense,
Speaker 1: but their defense was determined to show that theirs was better.
Speaker 1: Regardless of how San Francisco defense held down Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: VPA one hundred five yards passing, maybe a one hundred
Speaker 1: rushing held them down, no big deal, putting moves down
Speaker 1: on everybody. San Francisco still hunging there defensively. But Baltimore's defense,
Speaker 1: you could see the swag that they had, the attitude
Speaker 1: of the body legs that they had to wear no
Speaker 1: matter what happens, We're going to overcome this game and
Speaker 1: just take last night's game that wasn't perfect by either
Speaker 1: any means by either team. Right busted coverage, two busted coverages.
Speaker 1: One for it was. It was exciting but sloppy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's guys running down the field twenty yards open, wide open,
Speaker 1: and and then the cornerbacks looking around like where's my help?
Speaker 1: And I'm well, the safety's on the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: He was in front of you, right, he thought it
Speaker 1: was the Skies. Yeah, but then guess what, Rhodes comes back,
Speaker 1: creates a fumble right with a great hit. I mean,
Speaker 1: that wasn't he didn't stumble into that. He came back
Speaker 1: with You could tell that he was trying to put
Speaker 1: his shoulder on that ball deliberately because that's the kind
Speaker 1: of skill set that he has. And then Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: as good as he is, he gets a pass batted
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage and he tries to bat crap,
Speaker 1: he tried batted down on one of his guys that
Speaker 1: had popped up in the air and where back up
Speaker 1: in the air. Yeah, it's kind of shot. Like you say,
Speaker 1: he's right, he tried to go down, it went up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so you know, down right, perfection is not out there.
Speaker 1: But you have to overcome those things, right, because if
Speaker 1: that had turned the whole game around, you can say, well,
Speaker 1: that was a weird play. How do we get beat
Speaker 1: by that? So what gives a Cowboys fans hope? Because
Speaker 1: this this team is still talented. Now they got to
Speaker 1: play to their level of talent they got to The
Speaker 1: offense has to play to their level of yards they gain.
Speaker 1: They're still leading the league and yards per game and
Speaker 1: it's not even close, but they're the touchdowns aren't even
Speaker 1: close compared, right, And then I looked and see what
Speaker 1: the Bears were doing, and so what have they played
Speaker 1: twelve games? Six and six They've scored twenty four touchdowns
Speaker 1: basically to a game. Cowboys are at thirty six and
Speaker 1: we're thinking they're not scoring enough. Yeah, so you just
Speaker 1: got to play to the level of your talent and
Speaker 1: what you're capable of and not let these weird things
Speaker 1: beat you. That's what Witten was trying to say. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what he was trying to Yeah. I think what
Speaker 1: gives him hope is Dak Prescott. I was going to
Speaker 1: say the same thing, and I remember two years ago.
Speaker 1: I think I've said this before, after that awful month
Speaker 1: of November two years ago, and for some reason, Dak
Speaker 1: was doing a charity event or something, and I had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk to him one on one. It
Speaker 1: was on a player's day off, and I came away
Speaker 1: from that interview saying, this guy truly believes that they're
Speaker 1: going to turn this around. I mean, he had the
Speaker 1: confidence that just exuded from him, and I could imagine
Speaker 1: what it would be like in the locker room with
Speaker 1: him leading the troops. And sure enough, in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: they won for out the last five games. They got
Speaker 1: Zeke back, and they lost to Seattle right before to Christmas.
Speaker 1: That year, and that burst the bubble, but they did
Speaker 1: turn it around from from the probably I would say
Speaker 1: the worst three games stretch a Cowboys team has ever
Speaker 1: had in the month of November that year, especially with
Speaker 1: the talent that was on that team, even without Zeke
Speaker 1: all right, and they had injury issues, but that's beside
Speaker 1: the fact. But if you look at what's happened after
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving in all three seasons that Dak has been the quarterback,
Speaker 1: how has this team performed. In twenty sixteen, they went
Speaker 1: three and two. They were three and one until I
Speaker 1: believe what was a meaningless game the season finale at
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Day. Okay. Last year after Thanksgiving they went four
Speaker 1: and one, okay, or two years ago four and one.
Speaker 1: Last year they went four and one after Thanksgiving. So
Speaker 1: they are eleven and four after Thanksgiving every year that Dak,
Speaker 1: which is always almost crucial part of our season, especially
Speaker 1: coming off of this weird schedule of three games in
Speaker 1: so many days and things of that nature. That's why
Speaker 1: it's so crucial. Yeah, and so, and they're in the
Speaker 1: same position they've been the last three years, where they're
Speaker 1: in position where they can win the division. Okay, and
Speaker 1: I think so much of it in the NFL is
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about these teams it's a you
Speaker 1: have to play consistently week to week. Well the Cowboys
Speaker 1: obviously haven't been consistent week to week, but you got to.
Speaker 1: You gotta just steady the forces and the troops and okay,
Speaker 1: now it's winning time and not panic right the way
Speaker 1: everybody else outside the building is. And I like what
Speaker 1: he said yesterday about we've done enough talking. You know,
Speaker 1: it's time to play. Talk is cheap, you know, he
Speaker 1: and even with the point of he goes, the only
Speaker 1: reason I'm talking is because I have to be out
Speaker 1: here with you guys, he goes. But that's it. We're
Speaker 1: done talking. We got to play. And everybody talks about well,
Speaker 1: destiny's in our hand. Okay, fine, well it better not
Speaker 1: be that piece of jello Jerry talks about. Right there,
Speaker 1: you go, don't, lou Man, I'm trying to worry about you, Spad.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of stuff going on. He does
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of fluids. But you you
Speaker 1: nailed on it, though, Mick that Kellen said it yesterday.
Speaker 1: They got to score more points. They have still been
Speaker 1: able to move the football, but in those six loss
Speaker 1: the red zone. They are seven of eighteen ze two
Speaker 1: of six and these last two losses in the past week,
Speaker 1: and so takeaways are great, they need more of those,
Speaker 1: but they've been in position to score and they haven't
Speaker 1: been able to do it. And that it's as simple
Speaker 1: as that finishing drives. It's what we talked about side
Speaker 1: the red zone, because every time we get in the
Speaker 1: red zone, we just get things just get tense. That's true,
Speaker 1: we just kind of lock up. I kind of relate
Speaker 1: this too, back to the twenty fourteen season where after
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving they went to Chicago, Okay, and that team, I
Speaker 1: think they were eight and four at the time, but
Speaker 1: they had lost three out their last five games. They
Speaker 1: were coming off a thirty three to ten loss to
Speaker 1: Philly and they go to Chicago and I believe it's
Speaker 1: a Thursday night game, yes, and they put up forty
Speaker 1: one points a game. And I remember from the outset
Speaker 1: of that game, the first drive of the game, Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett going for it on fourth and one, maybe even
Speaker 1: a couple of times on the opening drive, and it
Speaker 1: set the tone for a four game wedding streak to
Speaker 1: win to what happened on the Sunday Thursday turnaround that year.
Speaker 1: Sunday Thursday turnaround, Yeah, which was a Sunday night in
Speaker 1: New York twenty eight And then what happened on we
Speaker 1: got back at four thirty five in the morning on Monday,
Speaker 1: And what happened on Thanksgiving? They lost to Philly thirty
Speaker 1: three to ten, the worst loss of the season. They
Speaker 1: had nothing, They had absolutely nothing in that game. Their
Speaker 1: legs were gone. Now I'm not suggesting that that New
Speaker 1: England game took a lot out of them, but with
Speaker 1: that weather and getting home probably not to bed the
Speaker 1: three in the morning. Brad Sham brought it up in
Speaker 1: the press conference the other day. He asked the question.
Speaker 1: He goes, do you think your team looked tired the
Speaker 1: second half? It's like, I don't know. They didn't play
Speaker 1: very well the second half. It was thirteen seven. It
Speaker 1: should have been thirteen ten at halftime if the ball
Speaker 1: doesn't get deflected the field goal at the end of
Speaker 1: a half, and then the second half they didn't play,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I would not making excuses. I
Speaker 1: would imagine the physicality parties. You know, it's probably their
Speaker 1: pretty physical game too. It's also these guys dragged down. Man.
Speaker 1: That is all we keep thinking about is our failures.
Speaker 1: That's all we hear about. Uh. And I know as
Speaker 1: I watch a game, I compare every team to the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier. And you just as players. They
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're doing the same thing. They're watching the game, like, man,
Speaker 1: that guy Shaw got a lucky bounce. You know, I
Speaker 1: missed that tackle. I had a guy all over me
Speaker 1: when I caught my sideline, I didn't take mine to
Speaker 1: the house and I got called exactly. And then you
Speaker 1: have a couple of turnovers on offense and defense held
Speaker 1: them one time not the other time. And then you
Speaker 1: have a couple of missfield goals and that takes the
Speaker 1: life out of it. And so it physically you could
Speaker 1: be an aspect, but also the mental aspect. People just
Speaker 1: don't realize how mentally in tune you have to be
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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears? Is this a concern? Mitchell Trubisky was awful
Speaker 1: and the Bears fans will They were shouting from the
Speaker 1: rooftops that he was awful the middle part of this season.
Speaker 1: Is it a concern that this last game against Detroit
Speaker 1: he was twenty nine out of thirty eight for three
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight yards and three touchdowns. Did he
Speaker 1: get back on track a little bit? But Dak threw
Speaker 1: for almost five hundred against that Detroit secondary too so.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean he's got the talent. Dak had
Speaker 1: a big Day's shot back to reality right there. That's
Speaker 1: a good stuff. Dak had a big, big day against Detroit.
Speaker 1: But it was gonna win. It was a win. He's
Speaker 1: got talent. Trubisky's got talent. I think the accuracy has
Speaker 1: been something that they've they've really harped on with him.
Speaker 1: But he's he's another quarterback that they're facing that's mobile,
Speaker 1: he's athletic, Christoph shards Day. You got to keep him
Speaker 1: in the pocket and get some consistent pressure on him,
Speaker 1: and they've got to find a way to get takeaway,
Speaker 1: strip the ball, get the ball back to the offense.
Speaker 1: I think the thing to me really stands out in
Speaker 1: this game, guys, is the running game for the Bears.
Speaker 1: They can't It's like the Detroit game, they've struggled running
Speaker 1: the football Chicago has cannot allow that to get going
Speaker 1: and then get Trubisky kind of settled in a comfort zone. Everson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've got a team that is uh like you said,
Speaker 1: just like I was. You've got a couple of guys
Speaker 1: that the game breakers, little Cohen. I believe it's North
Speaker 1: Carolina Central, if I'm not mistaken the heck of an
Speaker 1: HBCU school. I think they lost in the Black CAUs
Speaker 1: National Championships. This guy's a star. He's a star, and
Speaker 1: thank you. He's one of those guys that he can
Speaker 1: be a problem for at a position that has been
Speaker 1: a problem for us, using our strengths against us. They're
Speaker 1: gonna run the screen pass because we're always ears back
Speaker 1: uh d laws going for it, Buness going forward, They're
Speaker 1: gonna run the screen passes. This guy can beat any
Speaker 1: linebacker or strong safety that they put on him. He's
Speaker 1: gonna have to be double team. He would be. He
Speaker 1: would be as close to their Cole Beasley as you
Speaker 1: can get a little quick guy. If you don't bottle
Speaker 1: them up, he can take it all the way to
Speaker 1: the house on a little short pass. And these are
Speaker 1: the kind of things that we are wiped for because
Speaker 1: if I'm Chicago, I'm gonna say, all right, I running
Speaker 1: game has been going. Well, let's go, let's get it
Speaker 1: going today, Let's get it going this week. This team
Speaker 1: is wipe for for us to take advantage of. Now.
Speaker 1: Taylor Gabriel is another guy, a little guy who to
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley type out of Mesquite Horne High School. But
Speaker 1: he was out with a concussion last week. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what his status is, uh for this week's game.
Speaker 1: I also like the running back David Montgomery, a rookie
Speaker 1: out of Iowa status used to be with the Packers. Correct, No,
Speaker 1: he's a rookie this year. Okay, I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: guy that just kicked off the team that converted wide
Speaker 1: receiver from Stanford. It was also a Dallas Guys, they're
Speaker 1: a rushing stats just haven't I mean no, they haven't been.
Speaker 1: It hasn't been productive. They've only rushed for one hundred
Speaker 1: yards twice all season. Now, you mentioned this last game
Speaker 1: with Trubisky in his passing, Uh, they've actually two games
Speaker 1: in a row. He went for two seventy and three
Speaker 1: thirty one net passing. So that's kind of an improvement
Speaker 1: that was against the Giants the week before. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: in the last two games they've they've scored five of
Speaker 1: their twenty four touchdowns, so like twenty percent of their
Speaker 1: touchdowns were scored in these last two games. Again, two
Speaker 1: defenses that aren't very good, right, and then and then
Speaker 1: the other game that they had a big touchdown game
Speaker 1: against was earlier in the season. I believe it was
Speaker 1: Washington and their stellar They had four touchdowns. So nine
Speaker 1: touchdowns of the twenty four have been in those three games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it would be I don't want to put the
Speaker 1: ink gloom in doing but I just I don't look
Speaker 1: forward to us proving Chicago right right, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't look forward to it. I want this team. And see,
Speaker 1: that's what you have to worry about as a team.
Speaker 1: As a defender, you worry about Wow, Okay, they trounced Detroit,
Speaker 1: trounce Chicago. Are we gonna be bad defense? Are we
Speaker 1: there defense that can be easily maligned? That's that's gonna
Speaker 1: be the question. And actually that was one of the
Speaker 1: things Jerry brought up today about the defense playing better,
Speaker 1: that they haven't played as well as they needed to defensively. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's eleven forty three. We gotta make picks. What. Oh well,
Speaker 1: all right, you're ready? No, okay, Rob, you're ready, sure ready.
Speaker 1: Somebody was more ready that flew by. It was what
Speaker 1: I said. They've got to be able defensively to not
Speaker 1: let what's been kind of a weakness for Chicago become
Speaker 1: a strength. Stop the run game, get Trubisky uncomfortable. I
Speaker 1: don't poke the bear, don't don't bear. Come on, I
Speaker 1: like it. I like it. I like it. I got Dallas.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a little bit of a
Speaker 1: low scoring game. I'll go twenty one nineteen Cowboys in
Speaker 1: a in a kind of a dog fight, kind of
Speaker 1: a rob good store. There's like a historical Sorry, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: got some historical It was twenty three to nineteen, the
Speaker 1: famous quarterback shuttle game in nineteen seventy one. We were
Speaker 1: stop where Landry have even got me on that star
Speaker 1: boing Morton shuffling in plays. He did every other play,
Speaker 1: and they lost that game twenty three to nineteen in
Speaker 1: Chicago against the Bears. The next Monday, he named Stobock
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback in Super Bowl. Bill is here to
Speaker 1: tell you. They won ten straight games and won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You could have done more than that, but
Speaker 1: so there you go. Who's your pick? My pick is
Speaker 1: the Cowboys always, Okay, I'm sorry. I'm gonna always pick
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. And the reason I'm gonna pick them is
Speaker 1: because we're finally offensively not worried about the defense. I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna return to what we do offensively. We're
Speaker 1: gonna control the pace of the game, not defensively. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: They're gonna feed off of our offense as they always
Speaker 1: have done. Have you got it, Mick? Yes, I do
Speaker 1: twenty out of the way. I'm sorry, twenty I got
Speaker 1: twenty three. Twenty kicks the winning field goal. As time expires,
Speaker 1: he's still here, Yes, he at least three Thursday. Well,
Speaker 1: if you if you saw where these guys that came
Speaker 1: in for the workouts came from, what their experience was.
Speaker 1: He's still including a Dallas Renegades kicker here. Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: go ahead and Dallas go twenty three to nineteen Cowboys.
Speaker 1: There history, all right, That does it for talking, Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Enjoy your trip back home, making a will, Rob, and
Speaker 1: we will reconvene sometime. He talk sometimes, and the break
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