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Slash I 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: heart or text I Heeart to five hundred, five hundred 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: Hi Roshan McDonald, Rushaw McDonald say, my next guest is 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: the name I gotta get right, because like I always 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: get mad when people say Russian Rushan? Is this so 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: hard to say? So? The next yes, you know, we 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: we've been going back and forth, you know, all fair, 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: making sure I got her addiction, the diction right on her. 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: So she I'm ready. If she's ready, I've ready. My 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: next has survived the tough streets of self Sacramento. I 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: don't know, I come fear for Texas and we're gonna 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: compare tough. Okay, turned to the creative idea, to multimillion 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: dollar hair company and now I don't have any hair, 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 1: so she got me on there Curl name that company 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: just Curl, their family gonna getic hair care products, target 41 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: for women embracing their natural textures. She's starting new show 42 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: on own as Own that's the open network called Mine 43 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: Your Business with Shaw. Hello, How you doing? I just 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: paused to see if I got it right? Okay, I 45 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: got it right? Good on Saturday and Eastern Standard time. 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: Please work on the money. Main conversation Mohisha dealing. How 47 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: you doing? I'm doing well, Thank you, thank you. I 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: paused to see if you're gonna because I've seen your 49 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: show now, because see I want to go. I wanna 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: be on your good side. I want to because I've 51 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: seen the bad side. Well. The thing about it is 52 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: that so when I said your name, it was like 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: a affirmation, you know, is that right? Is the right? Okay? Okay? Cool? 54 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: But I got it right. I've gotten through the first 55 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: test of our relationship. Because before we move forward into 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: the TV show that's start, there's air and on Own 57 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: at ten p m. On Saturday night. Does it follow 58 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: I am another name I can't say correctly, Miss Vans's show. 59 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: And so so when you look at that show because 60 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: her show is kind of like a tough love show 61 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: as well. There's the air on own on Saturday the 62 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: night correct that is correct and so but hers is 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: tough low within the family dynamic. Yours is tough love. 64 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: In the business world, Yes, mine is all about helping 65 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: This show mind your Business with Mihi Shan owned this 66 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: show that's all about helping black female based business owners excel. Um. 67 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: There's an increase in the number of black female based businesses. 68 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: Were on the rise absolutely three that there's an increase 69 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: of three of us, but only four percent have made 70 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: it to the mean dollar mark. Now there's a huge 71 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: gap there. We have a large growth, but only four 72 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: percent of less make it to the million dollar mark. 73 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: So the goal of the show's helped to bridge the gap. 74 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna help eight individual business owners, eight individual brands, 75 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: eight individual companies should excel and succeed. But throughout the 76 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: show in the season, we're also given the tools to 77 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: the audience the viewers for watching it to also take 78 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: back home to implement in their life. Now that now, 79 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: well show this I like a lot that some people 80 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: have compared your show to her show. You remind me 81 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: a lot of a very popular show that I like 82 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: called The Profit. And because you yes, yes, okay, cool, 83 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: I gotta stay on the good. I thought she's about 84 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: to come ahead of you. I'm changing. You gotta watch 85 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: the show now. You can Keepshaw's Pauls and all the time. 86 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: Because we live on radio and you might go to 87 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: the left on me. I go, I can't dump button up, 88 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: but something save my career. But the thing about like 89 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: the prophet, he goes in there and he has to 90 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: do tough love too. And because some people should be 91 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: in business, but they're getting business. And some people have 92 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: a business and guess what, it's just barely getting by 93 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: and it should be way more profitable. And so when 94 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: I was when I when I did my research and 95 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: started examining what this show was all about. Because you 96 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: go into the you know, it's very it's a very 97 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: personal experience that you're having with these owners of these businesses. 98 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: Are people who have these ideas of these concepts that 99 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: they try to get afloat. So tell everybody about your 100 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: show before I get more detail. Everybody know exactly what 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: the show does, yes, and you know when I when 102 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: you set the Profit, it is exactly that it's a 103 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: mixture of the profit meets the shark tank with the 104 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: sprinkle of thealypics my life. That is really the premise 105 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: of the show. We're fixing people's businesses coming in a 106 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: little bit of tough love, a lot of tools, a 107 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: lot of information, a lot of resources. There are some 108 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: investment piece that comes along with some of the ladies, 109 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: like you saw an episode two by this past Saturday, 110 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: UM so it UM and the help comes in different forms. 111 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: Each business owner is in a different industry, different state 112 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: of her business and it has different needs. So every 113 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: individual episode will be unique. We can't just do it once, 114 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, once ize fits all approached, So we're meeting 115 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: them where there are, give them what they need at 116 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: that present time, UM to get them to do success. 117 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: So the mess you said, you're doing this with eight businesses, 118 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: will you well you involved in the process of selecting 119 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: the eight businesses, No, I was not. UM. There is 120 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: a team of casting UM managers that go after these ladies. 121 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: They have approached them. They all had to be obviously 122 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: African American black business owner UM that has a legitimate 123 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: business of course, and at a problem that we could 124 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: actually solve beyond just giving money. We wanted to have 125 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: them that we can actually dig our teeth in and 126 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: really help with. I don't know if you solved it, 127 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: because okay, let's let me just go back and like 128 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 1: the episode I saw the episode with the young lady 129 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: who's the reality star. Oh yeah, that that that that 130 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: show made her made that. Let's let's let's be real. 131 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: Now you got mad at her, did you not? I didn't? 132 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: You know why I did? And here's the deal, I 133 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: asked the producers when I went into before apology, give 134 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: everybody the back story so we can keep everybody in 135 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: this journey about what this show was about and then 136 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: why you got made. Okay, so that this what is 137 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: this episode about? This particular episode with eight hundred West 138 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: was all about helping a reality star named Megan James 139 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: with her Swimwa swimwear fashion line that she makes for 140 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: fashion of a big reteller that's very popular. So she 141 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: brought in with her a partner that she actually was 142 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: blessed with. This woman who's um connected in the industry, 143 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: is cutting and so wasn't a material handlers and production 144 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: and she does all this stuff that you need to 145 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: contact you. She became her partner, a very minor partner. 146 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: But this partner of hers gave her credit she may 147 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: get to use because she had eighteen years of credit 148 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: established with these people and Ms James did not pay 149 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: her bills. And so now this poor lady Tanya is 150 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: faced over eleven thousand dollars worth of it build and 151 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: potentially we'll be sued. So um, the reason why I 152 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: got set with Mrs James is because he did not 153 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: take account of the whole accountability for her action. She 154 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: did not care that she's what she did to Miss Tanya. 155 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: I felt horrible that she has this platform that she 156 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: can actually do good with, but instead she's making us 157 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: look bad. We as black woman already have a lot 158 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: of things we have to face and deal with negativity, 159 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: negative impressions and impressions of us, and we have to 160 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: set up bar higher for ourselves. And when you have 161 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: the opportunity to do so in a platform, take it seriously. 162 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: And I was disappointed with her. Um, So that's where 163 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: you see the anger coming from, because I want her 164 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: to be better. Well, the thing about it in that scene, 165 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: let me just tell you, guys, I was upset because 166 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: Megan that's her name, correct, was selfish. They're selfish, this younger. 167 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: Her partner was crying. Her was emotionally crying, pleading her 168 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: case with receipts, and you know what they're going, what's 169 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: the problem. I don't care, she said, I don't. It 170 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: doesn't make me feel bad. I don't know about it 171 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: at all. I'm like, oh my goodness, and I think 172 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: we need to move her up an hour to y'all 173 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: gonna take my life and then come back to this show. Well, 174 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: you know you fix it, though, I'm gonna tell you 175 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: somebody else on this show, because when you watch this 176 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: she gotta watch these shows because they grab you. They 177 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: get you once you once you realize you're dealing with 178 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: a crazy person. You're trying to figure out how miss 179 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: Dillinger is gonna fix this problem, because I'm looking at 180 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: the person who had no She was just she was 181 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: just popular because she came from a rally show. She 182 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: had no respect for the process, She had no big 183 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: this sense, she had no respect for her partner. She 184 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: spent the money that was supposed to go pay for 185 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: the bills on herself. That was the part that got 186 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: everybody mad, is that she had the money, she decided 187 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: guess what that's profits, profits go to them. Yes, yeah, yes, sir. 188 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: That was very hard for me to hear. That was 189 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: very hard for me to hear. I think it was 190 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: hard for me to see was when she was pitching 191 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: to investors. That was hard. She she put a little 192 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: bikini out there and didn't know the price of the 193 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: bikini and uh and talking about this is this is 194 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: my product, one product. Now you know you're trying to 195 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: pitch to investors, you're just gonna bring in a bikini 196 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: and say this is an example of my product. And 197 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: it was in a little looked like a sandwich bad, 198 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: a little a little sandwich bad because it was it 199 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: was just like watching this stuff going okay, how then 200 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: and then you know Ms Dill just she's sitting up 201 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: there with four three other people black girl on end. 202 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: She was done with her from jump okay it was 203 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: the other black lady sitting on the end. She was like, 204 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: I knew she was done as soon as she walks 205 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: in the room and still up and started studying the 206 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: black la like really, okay, they took up if these 207 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: cameras one on, I tell her to get out of 208 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: That's how bad he was And so, but what would 209 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: embarrassed me? Would embarrassed me because she because again she's 210 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: she's represented. I always tell people, you know, if one 211 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: black person to shoot somebody, all black people shot somebody. 212 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: And that's what you you. You're becoming that pool of ignorance. Okay, 213 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: here's a young lady claims she wants to get in business. 214 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: She has a business partner over there. She don't care 215 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: nothing about. All she wants to do is make money. 216 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: She knows no idea that if you make ten dollars, 217 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: probably now that it goes to pay bills, you keep 218 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: one dollar. Now on to her lifestyle. Okay, girls sitting 219 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: right in front of her, little little girl crying tears, 220 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: talking about you ruining Gertha. I just take out the 221 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: law and just get dump you, get you out of 222 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: my life because obviously you don't care. And then she's 223 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: like the mediator in between all this ignorance. Crying girl 224 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: on this side, ignorant woman on this side. Okay, that's 225 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: how mad I got watching this show, and so I 226 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: because see curse too, That's why I wanted to let 227 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, curs right a sacent to beat up. So 228 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,239 Speaker 1: that's how I made both of us mad and so 229 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: so when you get to that point in the show 230 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: and you start realizing that that that that you you said, 231 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: you said that these people are brought to you. You 232 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: don't hand you don't get involved in the in the process. 233 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: How do you get your information on being able to 234 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: build the story out? Well? I, you know, I and 235 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: could truth be told. I didn't want making on the 236 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: show when I saw the cast, the list of everyone 237 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: on the wall, and I said, I didn't want to 238 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: show the be about that, you know, because I already 239 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: knew who she was. Um, And they told me, promised 240 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: like trust us, we know we're doing I'm like, okay, um, 241 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: And then I kept reading more about it. So the script, 242 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: what there is in a script? Fy I, There isn't 243 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: a script. This is all will no scripts, as you 244 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: probably can tell, but some reality shows have have scripts. 245 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: This is not a script of reality show. This was 246 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: a show where the story was given to me as 247 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: to what's going on. They sat down, they spoke to 248 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: each and every one of the employees and business owners 249 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: and got all the individual stories and bought them to 250 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: me to review. And there was a storyline creative of 251 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: what they're doing. Each and every moment um. So, for example, 252 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: in hunder west Um episode with Megan, Um, You're gonna 253 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: go to her office to me with her and sit 254 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: down and talk to her about her her new designs 255 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: and so what the objective out of this meeting is 256 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: to get X y Z. So there's a scene where 257 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be and objective and there isn't anything else 258 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: beyond that, and I dig and ask the questions I 259 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 1: need to ask to get to what I need to 260 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: get cool. Hold that thought right there. We're gonna be 261 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: back with more money making conversations, keep winning everybody. Um, 262 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: she's a sorrow or showing owners every Saturday night at 263 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: temp M is called mind your Own Business, and that's 264 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm minding them my mind and my 265 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: own business to be back. Hi, just us Sean McDonald's 266 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with Mahitha dell Linger. She's the 267 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: star of a new TV show on the own network 268 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: called Mind Your Own Business with Mahsha And it's really 269 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: engaging because it got me emotionally charged. But let's go 270 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: back a little bit in this break to talk about 271 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: how did you get to this TV show? Now? I 272 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: mentioned it in your credit to You're from self, Sacramento 273 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: and a company called curls. So you said, this show 274 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: us about interviewing African American females who are entrepreneurs. You 275 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: come from that world, You developed that word. How did 276 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: you get started with this company called curl Yes, so 277 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: curl bt brands. Um, It's a brand that I created 278 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: over fifteen years ago. Very small brand initially because I 279 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: came from nothing, so I didn't have a lot to 280 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: put into it. But I was in corporate America and 281 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: that faced corporate racism for the first time and was 282 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: devastated because I was a young single mother and this 283 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: this man was looking to get rid of me. And 284 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: I was very stressed about the whole possibility of my 285 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: financial picture given that you know what his plans were 286 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: for me. So after I got through that process, I 287 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: realized I wanted to work for myself because it was 288 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: something that I had never experienced before. But also it's 289 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: very daunting, and I thought, I'm never gonna allow anyone 290 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: else to hold my financial destiny and a palm in 291 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: their hands, even if it was just for a couple 292 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: of months. I didn't like it filling, so I started 293 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: to do my duke diligence to see what kind of 294 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: business I could actually launch that would be profitable, sustainable 295 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: and something needed. And I was a newly natural mom 296 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: and I needed products from my hair. But the ethnic 297 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: aisle back then was think about that two thousand two 298 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: years that was what Jerry curl products. Perms, relaxing had 299 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: be grief not a lot, right, So wave Nubau was 300 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: the only option really, So I decided to see if 301 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: that was a sustainable business and it was. There were 302 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: many other women at the time transitioning back to natural 303 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: and that's my Da Curls and they started very small 304 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: e commerce space. I was working in my garage and 305 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: then we we started getting calls from salons, and then 306 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: distributers started calling, and then target called, And that was 307 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: really the transition of the hold on dealgy. How did 308 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: you get to target calling? You though you do, you 309 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: certainly went from you know, don't know what you're gonna 310 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: do with your life, making stuff in your kitchen to 311 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: target calling. Well, that was seven years later. It was 312 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: the same thing it was seven years later at y I. 313 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: That was seven years of grinding, no social media to 314 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: help me. It was all about being very aggressive with 315 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: my approach, but creative as well. So the buyer back 316 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: then she and her name was Rendas Solo and then 317 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: she was a blonde hair, blue eyed buyer for ethnic 318 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: hair care. So she wasn't sure why her category was selling. 319 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: She had all these relaxes that were no longer settling well. 320 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: So she started to do her research and saw that 321 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: there are a few brands like mine underground, but had 322 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: a lot of bugs. And she called me in for 323 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: a meeting, and she said, we'll give you a test 324 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: a hundred and five stores. We'll put you on this 325 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: premium in cap and see how you do. If you 326 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: guys do well, well, we'll keep growing you. If not, 327 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: will ship you all your stuff back and be on 328 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: your way. So we all did well. Together, we kept 329 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: going and going and going. As as she grew us, 330 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: she added more brands, and she creates the very first 331 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: ethnic category, the newly national category in this industry. Now 332 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: that everyone has Now you can go to CDs, Walgring, 333 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: to write a Walmart and all the other stores, and 334 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: now you can see that natural brand and said, and 335 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: Curls was one of the pioneers. We were one of 336 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: the first to kick it. Off you know some that 337 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: is such a cool story. So when your products went 338 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: into this on the stores, that's like I heard your 339 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: song on the radio. If you're a singer, you know, 340 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: So what did did you do anything extra to try 341 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: to get sales going? I know you don't have social 342 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: media as it is today's dominant is today. Did you 343 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: do anything? X sure make any phone calls? Were you 344 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: there old and upside buy my products samples in the 345 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: Target stores they were near you? What did you do? Well? 346 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: We couldn't do in stores back then, So I did 347 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, Like we did a lot of 348 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: sampling for events that had black women. They maybe weren't 349 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: hair related, but we would give samples out and say 350 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: go buy that Target um. And then we did a 351 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: lot and then we did social lap Facebook, I know, 352 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: I think was my Space back then, so we advertised 353 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: my people know we're at my you know, at Target. 354 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: And there's also some back then chat groups, chat rooms 355 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: like um Naturality, na Naturally Nap, Nappy Hairs, what blend 356 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: up and the naturally Curl and all these other sites 357 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: that were checked groups to protect your hair, we advertised there. 358 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: We it was very specific and um we let people 359 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 1: know and then they and target off the partner with 360 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: us and did the in capet the pictures of every 361 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: brand owner. And we were in pren A prim location. 362 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: I mean that's in The in caps are expensive, they 363 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: usually cost so we were able to get exposure just 364 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: from the inn caps alone. Just walk by you see 365 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: the product. That's that's right, that's the beautiful of that, 366 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: that opportunity. You just push your little basket down the 367 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: out going Oh yeah, what is this? Oh yeah, let's 368 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: try that. Okay, that's awesome. So so now you you 369 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: have that level of success. How did the TV show 370 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: come about? Well, there was originally um a show that 371 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: they had interviewed me for that was going to be 372 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: all about other black haircare brand owners. It was gonna 373 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: be four or five of us. And when that it 374 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: pan out on the producers remembered me from my interview 375 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: and you just stood out. You just like that, just 376 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: walking around, You're just taking tro What did I say? 377 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: What did I say? Hit? So everybody please watch it 378 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: on Saturday night at ten o'clock on on Mind your 379 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: Own Business? So so you stood out your originally was 380 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: before now you yourself have to call you so what's 381 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: running into your mind when they bring you back in 382 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: because you went through this this routine before and it 383 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: didn't work out. What did it make that this process 384 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: feel a little bit different? What what what made it go? Well? 385 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: It was definitely I thought it was a better a 386 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: better project because of the need and we the producers 387 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: that created and sold the show, created an amazing sizzle 388 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: and we we went to bat first and own second 389 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: and bet him Ahad and did jump own Jump, and 390 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: umuse OpenH is really into it. OpenH is really really 391 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: into helping obviously black females and just empowering people to 392 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: be better and so it really fit for her, her 393 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: her network. Um but yeah, so that's why what it 394 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: was actually an easy sell with them as well. Um 395 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: they just they wanted to see me. The producers told 396 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: me that the network executives are like, I don't know 397 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: if she's real. I need to meet her in person. 398 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: She really a real person and she can do all that. 399 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: Let me see in person. So they brought me in 400 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: they want They asked me tons of questions. It was 401 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: twelve people in the room and a lot of questions 402 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: from my childhood all the way to my my success 403 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: Carl and who I help, what kind of advice I gives? 404 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: Gave me some random, you know, scenarios. It was just 405 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: very interesting. Yeah, good blow them out the water. So 406 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with the founder of Curls. Um 407 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: It's is a is a naturally organic hair care products. Correct? Yes, 408 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: for more than what natural waves curls and kings. Good, awesome. 409 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: Now we got to go back to your show and 410 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: talk about this other episode. I saw the show we're 411 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: talking about this Mind your Business, Hm. The lady that 412 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: the owner didn't know how to fire people, and she 413 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: was filled with excuses. Now when that subject can that 414 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: sounds very familiar with me to me, you know these people, 415 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: you know their fans and family or and they don't 416 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: know don't want nobody to feel bad about I told 417 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: somebody wants I said, you cannot when you hired people, 418 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: you cannot worry about their house notes. You can't worry 419 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: about whether they're gonna feed. You can only worry about 420 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: when they come to you or they delivering. Because if 421 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: you were about that other stuff, you never fired people 422 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: that need to be fired. I always tell people when 423 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: you fire somebody, really you're just helping them along. In 424 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: their career path because it obviously it's your location. So 425 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: so so she didn't want to fire this young lady. 426 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: How did that get to the point that she was 427 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: finally able to let her go? And this character will 428 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: get drunk on the job and is running the cash 429 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: here like having a drunk cash here. It's your job. 430 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: Oh god, it is a barbecue. Join. Yeah, my father's 431 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: Bobby here. Y'all think I'm making this stuff out on 432 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: TV Saturday to night. Yes, so welcome through the steps. 433 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: I watched too much TV, though I watched too much TV. 434 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: I watched I'm sorry, well this was this was my 435 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: father's barbecue, was chef Sara Marlane Um. She had a 436 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: heart of goal where she wanted to continue. She's so 437 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: bad she want to let anyone go with they She 438 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: felt responsible for them because they have families. You said, 439 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, I understand that part at the time when 440 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: your business is being jeopardized by someone that can cause 441 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: you a regal issue, like someone fighting someone drunk, but 442 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: they get they're drunk and they fall over and hurt 443 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: themselves or someone else. Their legalities around it that she 444 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: needs to be aware of. That really opened her eyes 445 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: and woke her up, but she didn't have the ball 446 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: to do so she just felt, I'm not sure about 447 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: how to do it. And I was so surprised that 448 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: she's a strong willed woman, but she just couldn't do it. 449 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: And even after after her one of her cooks stole 450 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: from her, and she knew for months before I started, 451 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: she didn't she didn't fire that person. I forgot about 452 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: that one. I forgot about the thief, I forgot about 453 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: the thing. Continue, please continue. So we we had, you know, 454 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: so we had these you know, stealing going on. We 455 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: had a drug addict Cindy. Then we had the a 456 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: few drunks, and and then just fights on in the 457 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: restaurant outside that restaurant, just just crazy, crazy, crazy crazy. 458 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: And I thought, shout, Mark, if you do not stop this, 459 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: you're gonna lose your business. No one's going to respect you, 460 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 1: and no one's gonna want to eat here. And I 461 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: showed her also what she needs to do with her life, 462 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: like she has any baby, but she was used as 463 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: a real excuse why she couldn't be there. I felt, um, 464 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: she was making some excuses for having that baby too. 465 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: And you told her I've had I got two kids 466 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: back to back. Who am on to part? I remember 467 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: every thing? Yes, And she said, well, I you know 468 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: I have a baby. I had she back to back, 469 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: and that's when I went into about getting a good 470 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: support system. She needs to have a nanny so she 471 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: could come back and forth. Maybe that you know, So 472 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: there's some things we can do. I know because I 473 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: did it. I had to do it too. Um. It's 474 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: a matter of having a matter of will versus excuses. UM. 475 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: And I think she got through it though she really 476 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: feels more power now. Well, I think it's really important 477 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: that you have a show like this. I want to 478 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: thank you just for being you, first of all, and 479 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing enjoy I have enjoyed my time watching this show. 480 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: And it also I want to tell people if you're 481 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: if you're an entrepreneur, first of all, watch the show 482 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: because you're gonna learn something about how to build your 483 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: business and also how to handle workers. And I also 484 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: have to look inside yourself to plan a better opportunity. 485 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: If you want to see a young lady try to 486 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: straighten out the lives and get people on just more 487 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: than faith, because a lot of people start businesses on faith. 488 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: Then this is a show to watch. I've had a 489 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: great time watching them. I'm glad you called my show 490 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: and shared our views and our listeners. Uh, the great 491 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: opportunity can experience every Saturday night watching you. I appreciate you. 492 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. You keep winning. Okay, thank 493 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: you so much. 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