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Speaker 1: Hey, it was interesting. Shannon had fun. Sha sha had fun.

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Speaker 1: Cat was going off, he was speaking his talk, and

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Speaker 1: as a consumer, I just thought it was very very interesting.

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Speaker 1: But no, I'm an old school cat, and I always

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Speaker 1: followed the old school rule of man, you goddamn business.

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Speaker 2: I did a pig, big big, pull me to pig.

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Speaker 2: I did we'm pig, big, big, singing a cat. I

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Speaker 2: did a pig, big big, put me to bed. I

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Speaker 3: I do a pig. I say already, I got pulled

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Speaker 3: like a toad trunker and I'm speaking like they hiking.

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Speaker 3: They just go up, looking good, smelling good. Put your nose,

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Speaker 3: see me getting close up.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what you say.

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Speaker 4: I can't no woman on the I'm gonna leap it

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 1: Hold on you.

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Speaker 5: We need from milk.

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Speaker 1: I gotta take a shit.

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Speaker 6: What is up?

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Speaker 1: What is good?

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Speaker 7: How you living?

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Speaker 8: How you feeling, how you're doing It? Is the third

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Speaker 8: episode of the Big Podcast with Shaq.

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Speaker 6: Where we always do it big. I am in New York.

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Speaker 8: Shaq is in the Shahukah Lounge in Atlanta, And let

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Speaker 8: me just get right to it so Shaq can start

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Speaker 8: asking questions.

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Speaker 6: We are joined today by a world champion.

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Speaker 7: Let me list them all.

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Speaker 6: WBC IBO, WBO IBF the Ring.

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Speaker 8: The undisputed super featherweight champion of the world, coming in

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Speaker 8: with a record of fourteen and one, seven of those

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Speaker 8: by knockouts from Fremont, Ohio. AlSi the bomb bomb Gardener,

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Speaker 8: take it away.

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Speaker 1: Shock. You may see that I'm nervous. So I'm nervous

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Speaker 1: because she's mean. I called her alesia earlier and she

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Speaker 1: hit me with a damn gut punch, almost shit on myself.

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Speaker 1: So hello, miss Alicia Bumgardner. How are you?

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Speaker 5: I am blessed, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the shoe Hooka Lounge.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 1: How you been.

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Speaker 5: I've been great, I've been moving. Have some emotion you ready,

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Speaker 5: I've been ready. I cash you anything on anything.

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Speaker 1: All right? So you got some news on a verse

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Speaker 1: analytical finding in August, and since then you post it

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Speaker 1: on how you've addressed it and how you're ready to

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Speaker 1: move on. Tell me how this whole ordeal has been

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Speaker 1: to you and tell me how you how have you

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Speaker 5: Yeah? So this whole ordeal has been a lot, to

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Speaker 5: say the least, and it's been mentally challenging. It has

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Speaker 5: been financially draining in a sense, but overall, I'm still here.

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Speaker 5: I'm standing on business. I've been very vocal with my fans,

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Speaker 5: very vocal with the media with the sanctioning bodies to

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Speaker 5: show scientific evidence and why I've always been a clean

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Speaker 5: athlete and that I support clean athletes. So it's important

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Speaker 5: that you know, people understand that boxing has no union,

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Speaker 5: It's just me, and you have to do everything in

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Speaker 5: your power to show the bodies the people that you know.

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Speaker 5: I've never cheated. I never doped in my life to

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Speaker 5: be ahead, to get ahead, and I'm confident in that

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Speaker 5: I never my confidence never wavered. I'm still here and

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Speaker 5: I will be out very soon to defend my titles.

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Speaker 1: So what have you been up to in and out

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Speaker 5: Shoot a lot. You know, there's two worlds's being in

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Speaker 5: important that I'm able to dip in every avenue that

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Speaker 5: there is one being Juicing. I started my juice business

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Speaker 5: during COVID Temple Raw Juice. I juiced for the local

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Speaker 5: community in Detroit for the kids, for healthy options, healthy

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Speaker 5: opportunities that is not accessible, so health is wealth. Athletes

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Speaker 5: need this, regular people need this just to keep their

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Speaker 8: Alicia, you know, I went on Twitter X and I

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Speaker 8: and said quote, I will be stepping on next all year.

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Speaker 6: I hope y'all are read.

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Speaker 8: And I'm just curious who is going to tear more

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Speaker 7: You or Kat Williams.

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Speaker 5: Listen, I've been entertained with that, but me, of course,

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Speaker 5: the undisputed world champion. I'm stepping on next. Like I've

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Speaker 5: I haven't been able to get in the ring. I

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Speaker 1: Can we have a dummy moment for sure. I'm about

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Speaker 1: some fan, but I don't really know all the terms.

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Speaker 1: Can you define the undisputed world chair? I hear you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so the undisputed champ means to me, at least

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Speaker 5: you have all the world titles in the world. You

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Speaker 5: everybody wants your spot. And I've climbed this mountain to

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Speaker 5: So to be undisputed to be the best and there's

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Speaker 1: You know, a fight? I would like to see?

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Speaker 5: What fight is that.

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Speaker 1: You versus Miss Clarissa Shields?

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Speaker 5: Are everybody wants to see it?

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Speaker 1: Are you guys friends?

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Speaker 1: Oh, y'all are not friends?

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Speaker 5: Nope? Okay, fighters?

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Speaker 5: I mean what a friend and associates a little different than.

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Speaker 1: Me And are y'all in the same weight class?

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Speaker 5: We're not in the same weight class.

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Speaker 1: So is that. Is that a fight that can happen?

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Speaker 5: Or I believe it can happen. Like I've said before,

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Speaker 5: Clarissa can fight at one forty seven. She said it before.

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Speaker 5: I can move up to one forty seven and fight Clarissa.

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Speaker 5: Size does not matter to me. Skills do. And I

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Speaker 1: Facts, So how can so what's the what? What's the

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Speaker 1: the chance on this fight really happened? I mean, because

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Speaker 5: I would say it could happen this year or next year. Again,

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Speaker 5: it takes two fighters. I've already said that I would

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Speaker 5: have people calling me to put the money up for

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Speaker 1: World, give me the give me I'm talking HBO showtime.

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Speaker 1: Who would you want to broadcast the fight? Who would

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Speaker 1: this clip will definitely go viral, and I want everybody

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Speaker 1: to say, you want Bob Aham, you want the other guy?

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Speaker 1: Who do you want? To set this fight up? And

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Speaker 1: how you would like to see this fight? Because I

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Speaker 5: Yeah? So that's a tough question, right because how things

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Speaker 5: Are we doing pay per view? That's also important to

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 5: So what kind of platform are we doing? We just

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Speaker 5: people I think I think it would be a great fight. Again,

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Speaker 5: Clarissa's the undisputed world champion at her weight class, and

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Speaker 8: Shack, I got two things here. Number one, Alicia, can

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Speaker 8: And number two, since we're talking about perfect worlds, if

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Speaker 7: And how do you think it would feel?

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Speaker 1: I would do it for you.

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Speaker 5: You said you would, yes, Okay, let's do it easy,

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Speaker 5: And he.

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Speaker 5: Man So, I have many favorite punches. Obviously, the right

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Speaker 5: how I became a world champion. But the left hook

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Speaker 1: How did you become a fighter. Anyway, How did you

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Speaker 5: Really throw hands and get down with the get down.

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Speaker 1: How and why?

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Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. But do I see you're

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't expect them to take it easy.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I'm just saying, no, this is a thing.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, if that makes you feel good inside,

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Speaker 1: I can't do it.

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Speaker 5: Look goodbye. I'm not taking it easy on you.

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Speaker 1: Look, you can beat me up and do all the

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Speaker 5: You know that that's up to them. I know when

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Speaker 1: So a guy your size, your height offers you one

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Speaker 5: Do we have headgear on? I would like a headgear.

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Speaker 1: No, it's a real match.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't need to do that. I don't have to.

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Speaker 5: I don't have to this my thing. I don't have

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm cool with being a woman and doing what

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Speaker 1: So give me your next three fights. How you would

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Speaker 5: My next three fights?

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Speaker 1: All them out?

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Speaker 5: Okay, listen one. Amanda Serrano, she can get this work.

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Speaker 5: all of these girls. This is the thing. I'm a

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Speaker 5: I'm prepared for this.

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Speaker 1: So do you do like most superstar boxes and you

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Speaker 5: You know, typically women are only fighting three days or

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Speaker 5: you know, we want to we want the super fights,

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Speaker 5: and those take time to build. You know, both fighters

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Speaker 5: also have mandatories. You got these young girls who are

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Speaker 1: You know we're scared. Huh, don't get scared.

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Speaker 5: Because nobody scared. Listen, come, come move. What the big

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Speaker 5: a good fight. But I love it though, because it

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Speaker 5: keeps me on my toes.

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Speaker 1: Adam pretty girl with muscles that talk shit and can fight.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm in I'm in shore. Who go

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Speaker 6: Alicia, I have a question for you.

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Speaker 8: Because I think the thing that I'm mesmerized about boxers

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Speaker 8: to like this dark place where you genuinely hate the

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Speaker 8: I'm just curious, like to people like myself who have

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Speaker 8: what is when you were at peak like nothing in

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Speaker 5: Yes? So when we when we lock it down, when

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Speaker 5: we're into in our camp, I instantly go, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm Abe the Fighter. There's Alicia who you're looking at

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Speaker 5: who's gonna talk that shit. You know what I'm saying

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Speaker 5: is it's two different people. But when I'm locked in,

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Speaker 5: it's all about me. In that moment, I'm not really

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Speaker 5: thinking about my opponent. I know what I'm supposed to do.

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Speaker 5: I know my job, and that's to beat them, period.

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Speaker 5: But what I have to do is make sure that

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Speaker 5: I'm one hundred percent right in my camp, my mental straight.

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Speaker 5: I'm writing in my journal. I'm picturing how the fight's

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Speaker 5: gonna go. I'm practicing this left talk. I'm about to

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Speaker 5: You feel me weekends left?

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Speaker 1: Look, and did you say you have a journal?

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Speaker 5: I do have a journal.

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Speaker 1: She has a journal. Ad On the little baby has

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Speaker 1: a journal.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I've been drilling for years, Zach.

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Speaker 6: I think you're the only one here that doesn't have

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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, you have a journal?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the same thing that you make fun of all

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Speaker 6: the time. Yeah, I put my thoughts it.

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Speaker 5: Oh hell, I'm gonna get him a journal.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I got you journal entry.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 6: I talked to Alicia. Boy is she pretty? She could

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Speaker 6: punch me in the face any day, See you later.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's something about these guys who comment on

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Speaker 5: get punched, And I'm like, that's wild.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, guys, really do that? All right?

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Speaker 5: You punch me?

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Speaker 1: All right? So what's the wildless comment you got? Without

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Speaker 5: The wildest comment, there's a few. I mean, I could

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Speaker 5: go through my d ms right now share a few

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Speaker 5: with you. There's just people just say off the wall

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Speaker 5: stup like three what three, while comment yes on the

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 5: One would obviously be punched me and punish me right

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Speaker 5: like they want to be punished. They want to be

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Speaker 5: people think I'm in a relationship with a woman. That's

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Speaker 5: the one that be blowing me. Like listen, I like, man, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Who's the biggest name to jump your deal?

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Speaker 5: The biggest name I don't know?

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Speaker 1: Said, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I want to say Shack O'Neill. I think, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I did. I'm gonna tell ya because when I saw her,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if she was a boxer. I was

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Speaker 1: a company?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 5: No, you just gave me a compliment. He stepped into

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Speaker 1: You wasn't supposed to say my name. You're supposed to

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Speaker 1: say somebody else.

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Speaker 5: Oops.

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Speaker 8: Well, Alicia, we don't know who your next opponent is,

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Speaker 8: but we, as the Big Podcast, are officially team Alicia

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Speaker 8: bomb Gardener. I'm gonna talk to our producer about putting

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Speaker 8: Shaq's face on your boxing shorts.

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Speaker 6: I think that's something we should do.

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Speaker 7: I think shacks should come out with you.

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Speaker 8: And then as you continue to just stop people, if

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Speaker 8: got you.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a shoe deal yet?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: You don't.

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Speaker 5: I mean I'm with Everlast so boxing shoes. Yes, do we.

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Speaker 1: Own ever Less? No, we own the other one. Okay?

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Speaker 1: Would you like us you deal?

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Speaker 5: Of course?

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Speaker 1: Okay, because I because I know some.

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Speaker 5: People, you know some people. All right, let's make it

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Speaker 5: happen that talk so we.

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Speaker 1: Know you have a flight to catch. I just want

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Speaker 1: to say thank you. If you need anything from me,

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Speaker 1: our friendship, I appreciate you telling us what you've been

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Speaker 1: going through, and we love you. And hopefully that fight

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Speaker 1: comes to fruition only if you two young ladies can

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Speaker 1: get paid equal pay, like I wouldn't want to see

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Speaker 1: y'all fight, and just for whatever you make. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to ask you what you make, but I would

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Speaker 1: like to see you make Jake Paul Floyd Mayweather type

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Speaker 1: time a fight was this magnitude was I think it

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Speaker 1: was Leila A Lee when she was gonna fight Anne Wolf.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of it, but that that's the last time

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Speaker 5: So this fight, it's it's a great fight. And I

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Speaker 5: will also just mentioned that, yes, Clarissa is at a

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Speaker 5: I'm here to show the world that I don't back

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Speaker 1: So how much are you at?

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Speaker 5: How much I weigh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Right now? How about one?

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Speaker 1: So she's one forty what is she?

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Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you. She's maybe like one sixty. I

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Speaker 5: I think with the right and the food all that

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Speaker 5: I beat her, beat her, I'll beat them all.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that left took to the body and

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Speaker 5: kind of crumbled you a little bit like a cookie

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Speaker 5: much you're talking about. Sure, at least thank you, thank you,

449
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Speaker 5: appreciate you, thank you anytime.

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Speaker 6: H Hey, So I just want to talk about this.

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Speaker 8: I brought it up in the beginning when we were

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Speaker 8: talking to Bomb Gardner, this Kat Williams thing, bro with

474
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Speaker 8: Shannon Sharp. The reason that I wanted to ask you

475
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Speaker 8: is I think that you you have been so influential

476
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Speaker 8: to comedians for so long. I did not realize comedians

477
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Speaker 8: were this competitive.

478
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Speaker 6: Have you seen it? What did you think of everything

479
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Speaker 6: that he was saying?

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Speaker 1: Bro, every everybody is competitive, you know, like I'm looking

481
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Speaker 1: at these podcast numbers and all that we coming from

482
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Speaker 1: the top spot. Me and you. Comedians are definitely competitive.

483
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Speaker 1: You know. When I have my Shock Comedy thing going,

484
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Speaker 1: everybody wanted to go last and who's who's headline, Who's

485
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Speaker 1: making this, Who's making that? I wanted to put Kings

486
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Speaker 1: of Comedy two together. That's what I wanted to do.

487
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Speaker 1: But you know, we can never. We can never because

488
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: you know that everybody's worrying about who's gonna go last,

489
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Speaker 1: and who's gonna go first, and who's headlining, so we

490
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Speaker 1: can never really get it together. I I will not

491
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Speaker 1: resort to the new way of thinking all the time.

492
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Speaker 1: When I talk my stuff, it's only for stuff that

493
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Speaker 1: I can relate to. Former basketball player, so I may

494
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Speaker 1: talk about some people inside that world, but in real life,

495
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Speaker 1: there's a rule, Adam. It's called min your business. And

496
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: we we know people's business now because people talk about

497
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Speaker 1: other people's business, But if it ain't basketball related, I

498
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Speaker 1: don't think I can get into its very interesting. I'm

499
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Speaker 1: like everybody else. I heard it, but I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say he shouldn't have did it, and that because

501
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Speaker 1: guess what street rule number one, That ain't my business.

502
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: Like you got a lot of people now common and all,

503
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Speaker 1: he should do it. That that ain't what I'd do

504
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Speaker 1: over there. And I will never grab my phone and

505
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Speaker 1: be like Kat did it? Hey, it was interesting, Shannon

506
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Speaker 1: had fun, Shay had fun. Kat was going off, he

507
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Speaker 1: was speaking his talk, and as a consumer, I just

508
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Speaker 1: thought it was very very interesting. But you no, I'm

509
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Speaker 1: an old school cat, and I always follow the old

510
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Speaker 1: school rule of mine your goddamn business.

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Speaker 8: It's probably good for the pocket, all right, you did, so,

512
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Speaker 8: you did say Kings of Comedy two. Who would be

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Speaker 8: your four that you would put in Kings of Comedy two?

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Speaker 8: But you couldn't use anybody from Kings of Comedy one

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Speaker 8: if I.

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Speaker 1: If I had the power to do Kings of Comedy two,

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Speaker 1: And again it's it's kind of hard to say who

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Speaker 1: would headlines.

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Speaker 6: On no order?

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Speaker 1: Just the four I would have Cat, I would have

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Speaker 1: Mike Epps, I would have Kevin Hart, and I would

522
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Speaker 1: have to have Dave Chappelle.

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Speaker 6: The strong four.

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Speaker 8: And I think of those four, I think they would

525
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Speaker 8: all be okay if Chappelle finished.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I want to have a Captain WILLIAMS

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Speaker 1: Moman right now per NBC Sports. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's true or not, but I want to address it.

529
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Speaker 1: Yusuf Nurkif Nurkic, whatever his name is, is talking about

530
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Speaker 1: pressing charges against Draymond Green. Now I have a problem

531
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Speaker 1: with that because one, it just shows how soft you

532
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Speaker 1: are as a big man. I'm gonna just keep it there.

533
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go too deep into it. But if

534
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Speaker 1: you do that, you're gonna ruin what I created in

535
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Speaker 1: the Big Men Alliance. The reason why Draymond hit you, sir,

536
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Speaker 1: because he knows you're not gonna hit him back. So

537
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Speaker 1: for you to say, uh uh, I want to call

538
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Speaker 1: the cops and press charges? Bro? Did I press charges

539
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: when when Charles hit me in the ball with the face? Huh? Did?

540
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Speaker 1: Did the did? Did the New York Knicks press charges

541
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Speaker 1: against the Miami Heat? And this brawl right here? Did

542
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Speaker 1: anybody from from from uh? Michael Jordan when he fought

543
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Speaker 1: Reggie Miller in this brawl right here? Anybody press charges?

544
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Speaker 1: So for you to say even think about saying your

545
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Speaker 1: pressing charges? Yourselft And this is something I would tell

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Speaker 1: you to your face if I saw you. You can't

547
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Speaker 1: press charge. You just got to get your big ass

548
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Speaker 1: up and hit somebody back. How about that with your

549
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: big soft ass. Don't be all on the floor, Kevin, Oh, Kevin,

550
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: call it tech. He needs help now. He don't need help.

551
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Speaker 1: You need help because you'reself and big guys shouldn't be self.

552
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: But yusuf nurkuz. If you are a thing about pressing charges,

553
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Speaker 1: I'm disappointed when you will no longer be called the

554
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Speaker 1: big man.

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Speaker 6: All right, now that you're fired up, I get to

556
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Speaker 6: ask you this question.

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Speaker 8: So I've been noticing this thing in the world that

558
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Speaker 8: we're competing in now in podcasts, that there's a lot

559
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Speaker 8: of guys over the age of fifty that are enjoying

560
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 8: talking to women, or at least talking about it. Shannon

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Speaker 8: Sharp is fifty five, steven A Smith is fifty six.

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Speaker 8: Shack Diesel, you're a young, spry fifty one. My question

563
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Speaker 8: for you is this, Shannon, stephen A, and Shack, the

564
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Speaker 8: three s's are all out of fine establishment and a classy, beautiful,

565
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Speaker 8: impressive woman walks in and you're all interested.

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Speaker 7: Who's getting the number?

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Speaker 1: Me? You know why I'm getting the number?

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Speaker 9: What?

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Speaker 1: Shannon is gonna be too too thirsty T bede bedeqb

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Speaker 1: D TBDA, and steven A gonna try to sound too

571
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Speaker 1: smart with them dumb big ass words he'd be using, Hey,

572
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Speaker 1: can I get your kind of look? And she's just

573
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: gonna look at me, and she's gonna know that I

574
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: already got the PhD. She gonna say, oh, that's Shack,

575
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: how are you? And I'm just gonna sit back, just

576
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: gonna sit back and say hello, and I'm gonna act

577
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Speaker 1: like I don't want it. And that's why I'm gonna

578
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Speaker 1: get it. Hey, man, they don't call me shacking over

579
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Speaker 1: for nothing. Brother?

580
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Speaker 7: Do you think stephen A and Shannon would agree?

581
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Speaker 1: They don't have to agree. I know, I know what

582
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: would happen.

583
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 7: I'm glad I asked that question.

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Speaker 6: Okay, uh, I want to do one quick who you wit?

585
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 8: And I'm gonna read two guys stats, and I want

586
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 8: to know who you'd pick. Okay, first guy stats thirty

587
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 8: four point eight points per game, so thirty five points

588
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 8: per game, twelve rebounds, six assists, two blocks, thirty five twelve,

589
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 8: six and two. The other one thirty fourteen, four and three.

590
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the thirty five.

591
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 8: That is Joel Embiid's season this year, and the second

592
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 8: one was your best season with the Lakers.

593
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Speaker 6: I did the math, and what I found is that.

594
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: You forgot what you forgot to add. One thing. I

595
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: did that with four motherfuckers on me. He don't get doubled.

596
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: So times that shit times four. Let's score it, so

597
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: thirty times four. I averaged one hundred and twenty points. Motherfucker.

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Speaker 8: All right, hold on, in your best year, you averaged

599
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Speaker 8: five free throws a game, and b this year is

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Speaker 8: averaging ten free throws a game. So the big the

601
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Speaker 8: only difference between you two are those five free throws.

602
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 8: But I just wanted to put into perspective the year

603
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Speaker 8: Em beat is having and and my question for you

604
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 8: is this, He's reached the point now where everyone.

605
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 6: Just says, show it to me in the playoffs.

606
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Speaker 8: So what is he supposed to do for the rest

607
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Speaker 8: of the year before the playoffs start.

608
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to him like Kareem gave it

609
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: to me, and he should take it as disrespectful because

610
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: that's how I took it. But later talking to Kareem,

611
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't being disrespectful. I was being factual. I was

612
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Speaker 1: averaging big numbers with La really bigger than his, as

613
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Speaker 1: big as will and you know, well, we kept getting

614
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Speaker 1: swept in the playoffs. Like okay, Shaq, you're doing that

615
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: in the regular season, what about in the playoffs? And

616
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: this article really broke my heart. They asked Kareem what

617
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: do you think about Shaq? And Kareem says, well, he

618
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: hasn't won any championships yet. So that's my message to

619
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Speaker 1: miss and Bet, like, we know what you can do,

620
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: but can you can you can you can you do

621
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: it when it comes time we really needs to be done.

622
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: Can you do it at the big dance? Can you

623
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: get the phone number at the big dance? And can

624
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: you take it home and close the deal? That's what

625
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: we want to know. Anybody can always show up. But

626
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: so listen. Thirty five point eight is good, but you

627
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Speaker 1: know in this thing of oz, it ain't enough until

628
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Speaker 1: you winn.

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Speaker 8: Can you take me back to that playoffs where you

630
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 8: finally want it but in the beginning, How different was

631
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 8: your mental having heard all of that, Like, did anybody

632
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Speaker 8: even stand a chance?

633
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Speaker 7: Or were you so angry that it was just over?

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Speaker 4: No?

635
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Speaker 1: I got I got swept my first three years when

636
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: me and Kobe got sw.

637
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 6: I need you go to LA and everyone's saying you

638
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 6: can't win.

639
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: I never heard. I never heard I can't. The only

640
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: time I heard I couldn't win it was with dad,

641
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: to do with my liability and the free throw line.

642
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: Like I always had a talent that that They always said,

643
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: if I could hit free throws, we have a chance

644
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: to win. But we just kept getting swept, got swept

645
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: year one, swept year two, year three, and then I

646
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: just finally got tired of And then when Kareem said

647
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: that quote, it kind of hurt me, but it kind

648
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: of really really pissed me off. But then I again,

649
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: he kind of also taught me how to instead of

650
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: always worry about being criticized, see if there's some truth

651
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: in that criticize. And then I had to say, you

652
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: know what, Kareem has g nineteen classification. So if the

653
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, boss man said, shock ain't that good because

654
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: he ain't won the championships, I'm not that good. Now

655
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: I got to turn it on. That's when Phil came around,

656
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: and you know, had an extra little focus. And you know,

657
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: the first year Phil came I was I was really

658
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: on that you know, MVP thing because I read a

659
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: quote before he succeeds, you must first earn to fail.

660
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: I just got tired of failing. Like when you're a

661
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: sense of guy like me, you want to hear, oh

662
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: Shack's great, Then how come he kept getting swept? So

663
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: similar to what Joel is going through now. So my

664
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: message to him is not only do it in the playoffs,

665
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: you got to win that thing. Because what he needs

666
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: to understand after he went the first and they gonna say, bet,

667
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: you can't go back to back and if he wins

668
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: the second, oh bet you can't. Oh you got one.

669
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: Joker got one. Who's gonna be the the number two.

670
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: It never stops. The greater you get, the more pressure

671
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: that is put upon you. So my message to him

672
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: is a we're all impressed, but guys like me don't

673
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: get impressed until you win it. And that's why I

674
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: say Joker is the best big man in the league.

675
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: We all know Joel Embiid is the best big man

676
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: when it comes to numbers and all that, but Joker

677
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: went to the big das and got that thing done.

678
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 8: I have one more before we get to our interview

679
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 8: with Mike Will made it.

680
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 7: Who's unbelievable? What's happening?

681
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 8: Since you're wearing purple and I'm seeing the Lakers jersey

682
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 8: behind you. The Lakers have now lost nine of twelve.

683
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 8: They're now under five hundred and A story came out

684
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 8: today that there is quote a growing disconnect between coach

685
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 8: Darvinham and the Lakers locker room, and it's around the

686
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 8: rotation and adjustments. It is hard being the coach of

687
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 8: the Lakers, especially when you're not winning. Are you noticing

688
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 8: that there's there needs to be a change or is

689
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 8: this just that hard of the year when people get bored.

690
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: What I know for a fact in the locker room,

691
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: resume is important. You mean to tell me Lebron's gonna

692
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: listen to Darvingham in the thick of things. I know

693
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: the answer to that. I'll let you figure it out.

694
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: You think ad is gonna listen to Darvin Ham? You

695
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: know all the other guys may listen to Darby And

696
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: that's no disrespect to Darvingham, but no championship experience, no

697
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: playoff experience. So you know, if I'm a guy that

698
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: you know has been there, been to the to the

699
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: to the title run a lot, well, I listened to

700
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: a guy that hasn't been there, So you definitely have

701
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: to be on the same page. So and read. And

702
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: that's the reason why I won with the coaches that

703
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: have been there, because like when all my other coaches

704
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: talm Lent, that's I don't think that's gonna work. But

705
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: when Phil comes in to say it all the summers,

706
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: I got swept. I was fucking watching him. And when

707
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: I go to Miami and Pat says it, okay, when

708
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: I was in high school in college, I was watching you,

709
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: so I resume is very important. So and then if

710
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: it starts to get out it's true, that was worth.

711
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 8: My question for you is when it gets out to

712
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 8: the media, somebody leaked it, which means it's really an issue.

713
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: It's true, but you know, as d as a one

714
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: two punch on the team, if that is true, you

715
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: just have to say, Okay, we're not going to listen

716
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: to them. You all got to listen to us, and

717
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: this is what we gotta do. Like you know, Chuck's

718
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: a firm believer of his coaching. It's not coaching his

719
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: players like coach hang Like coach can tell me what

720
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: to do, but you're not gonna tell me how to play.

721
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: You know, if somebody has more effort to me and

722
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: out plays me, has nothing to do with coaching. So

723
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: you know, the other guys are definitely gonna have to

724
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: step up. A D's gonna have to step up, Reeve's

725
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: gonna have to step up. All the guys is getting

726
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: these open shots. You gotta knock them down.

727
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 8: It's just crazy to me because a few weeks ago

728
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 8: they won the in season tournament and they're smoking cigars

729
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 8: and popping champagne, and now they're leaking scause they.

730
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: Got the five hundred thousand, They got the five hundred thousand,

731
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: and they got the in season banner. Hang it up Stable.

732
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 8: Center hit, they lifted a banner, they pop champagne, and

733
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 8: now like a month later, they're like, we might need

734
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 8: to fire this coach.

735
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 7: That's crazy.

736
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is crazy. But the question is who who's

737
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: out there?

738
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 7: Would you like to throw Would you like to throw

739
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 7: your name in the ring?

740
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: No? Never, because you know why, because I smacked people.

741
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 8: So quote you couldn't coach the Lakers because you smacked people.

742
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, if I tell you to do something, you

743
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: don't do it, I'm not I'm just gonna smack you.

744
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 6: For the sake of a d's face. Shaq will not

745
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 6: be the coach.

746
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: Not a D. Not no a D. Strike that from

747
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: the tape. Shaq loves a D.

748
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 8: It is now the time of our show where we

749
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 8: get to welcome in a tour de force a prodigy,

750
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 8: a man that has turned Atlanta into a capital of

751
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 8: the music world. He has made hits with Gucci when

752
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 8: he was a teenager. He has topped the charts with

753
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 8: Kanye West in his prime. He has changed the game

754
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 8: with Miley Cyrus and Beyonce. He has kept us humble

755
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 8: with Kendrick Lamar from mixtapes to Grammys. Everyone in the

756
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 8: show Hookah Lounge give it up for Mike Will made it.

757
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie.

758
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 9: I had to just clap by the way he just

759
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 9: said that, I was I.

760
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: Mike Will made it. What's going on? Brother? What's it's

761
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: my second time meeting you. I just want to say,

762
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure meeting you. Of course, I'm a big

763
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: fan of yours. I've I've I've listened to a lot

764
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: of your music. But for those who don't know who

765
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: you are, give me some more big names that you've

766
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: worked with.

767
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 9: Man my managers really ran through the catalog. I don't

768
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 9: know if he mentioned Rihanna. I don't know if he

769
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 9: mentioned hello Rihanna, with Rihanna, say Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihanna.

770
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying that pour it up with Rihanna,

771
00:37:54,200 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 9: that loved me with with Wayne Drake in future. What

772
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 9: names did he not mention? JUICYJ bands make a dance.

773
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 8: So I've seen all these like six year old kids,

774
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 8: seven year old kids that like can play multiple instruments,

775
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 8: and their parents know immediately.

776
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 6: I know your parents were big into music, you had

777
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 6: siblings and music.

778
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 8: Was there a moment where you were really young where

779
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 8: you like heard a noise or a sound and could

780
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 8: like play it on the piano that your family was

781
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 8: even like this guy's different.

782
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 9: Man, you know it's crazy. That's how I got the

783
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 9: name from my company Ear Drummers. You know what I'm saying.

784
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 9: Because I can't play any instruments. I just do everything

785
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 9: by ear. So like what made me start making beats

786
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 9: is like I would hear certain songs on the radio

787
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 9: and my sister had like a My sister had like

788
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 9: a like a little keyboard at the house and it

789
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 9: was just laying around and I used to just hear.

790
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 9: I used to hear like certain songs on the radio

791
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 9: and I used to play it back. Nobody taught me

792
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 9: how to play the records or anything like that, and

793
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 9: I would just play. I would just play the songs back,

794
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 9: and then my homeboy at the time, like, man, this

795
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 9: is my brother, like I grew up with and like

796
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 9: he was my favorite rapper. And I used to just

797
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 9: play certain stuff back on the radio and then he

798
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 9: used to just freestyle and then He was the one

799
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 9: really that told me like, man, brain gonna lie, bro,

800
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 9: you might need to make beats or something. And I

801
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 9: was like, I'm like for real and then he was

802
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 9: like he was like hey, yeah, bro, like you already

803
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 9: know how to do it. You already You're already making

804
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 9: a beat. And I was like, dang. I told my

805
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 9: pops about it, like man, I think I want to

806
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 9: make beats. And then he had got me a beat

807
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 9: machine like when I was like fourteen, like for Christmas.

808
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 9: And then I just taught myself everything and then it

809
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 9: just went like that, you know what I'm saying. But

810
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 9: I was already like a consumer of music and like

811
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 9: listening to the sonics and like all the different kind

812
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 9: of stuff when the kind of music, because like even

813
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 9: my dad being a DJ, he would just show me

814
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 9: like how different rock bands are, different artists or whatever,

815
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 9: like like he'll show me like the panning and like

816
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 9: the reverbing. So that's when I started looking at like

817
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 9: effects and stuff like that and started looking more into it.

818
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 9: And then my sisters were just like one of my

819
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 9: sisters was like in the ninety six Olympics, like and

820
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 9: as a drum major in the in the band, and

821
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 9: then my other my other sister, she used to always

822
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 9: get like front page on sports, like in high school

823
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 9: when she was playing softball, and then they both graduated college.

824
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 9: So I was like, damn, I can't be the only failure.

825
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 9: I was the youngest. I was like, I can't be

826
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 9: the only failure, you know what I'm saying. So I

827
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 9: was playing sports and then, but I always liked music.

828
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 9: So then when I started teaching myself the beats, I

829
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 9: just locked in on that from high school and then

830
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 9: just it wasn't no looking back for real.

831
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: So he mentioned that you worked with Gucci ever since

832
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: you was thirteen. Tell me which song really broke your career? Open?

833
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 9: Man, it was crazy. It's just it's different tiers and

834
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 9: there's different levels, you know what I'm saying. So like

835
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 9: I came in the game with like Gucci, you know

836
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 9: what I'm saying. I was the first artist to ever

837
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 9: wrap on my beats, Like you know what I'm saying.

838
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 9: This was like underground Gucci early days, like around I

839
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 9: was seven, So that was like all mixtape records. And

840
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 9: then then I linked over like two Chains and Pluto

841
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 9: Future that we and they were like underground mixtape artists

842
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 9: as well, so we all came into the game together.

843
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 9: And then like me and Me and Pluto, we did

844
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 9: like a lot of classic mix tape records from anywhere

845
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 9: around to the itching to you know what I'm saying,

846
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 9: all types of mix tape records. And then and then

847
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 9: with Two Changs, it was like we had like got

848
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 9: one and and La La.

849
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: But then when.

850
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 9: They both got record deals, like I did no life

851
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 9: for two Changs, I did turn on the lights for Pluto.

852
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Never never in with Pluto.

853
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: So how many hits? You have? Too many? Bro? And

854
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: the is all the songs that you produce hits? Have

855
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: you ever had one that you thought was a hit?

856
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: But really people people really didn't catch on.

857
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 5: Uh.

858
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 9: To be real with you, see, like a hit to

859
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 9: me might not be like the top of the charts.

860
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 9: A hit to me is just like man, we hit

861
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 9: the target. You know what I'm saying, Like it's like man,

862
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 9: it's like man boom, Like this song feels like something

863
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 9: or like and that's what I'm aiming for, Like is

864
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 9: it new? It's an innovative and do it feel like something?

865
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 9: Do it make you? You know what I'm saying, do

866
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 9: it make you remember where you was at when you

867
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 9: heard this record? Like, you know what I'm saying. I

868
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 9: want people to feel like that when they hear a song,

869
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 9: so like, like.

870
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: To me, I don't.

871
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 9: I'm so particular about the songs that I or like

872
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 9: the production and like the sonic and like how good

873
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 9: the song is put together to the point where it's

874
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 9: like I don't even want it to come out if

875
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 9: I don't feel like it's a hit, you know what

876
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 9: I'm saying. So it's like certain songs like Itching might

877
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 9: not have went top you know what I'm saying, Top ten, hot,

878
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 9: one hundred, but if you play Itching any time to day,

879
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying anywhere, it's like I feel

880
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 9: like we hit the target, you know what I'm saying,

881
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 9: because the ones that know they know you know what

882
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 9: I'm saying, And then I feel like like, you know

883
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 9: what I'm saying. At the same time, Humble was like

884
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 9: it's like like one of my biggest records, you know

885
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 9: what I'm saying, Like we definitely hit the target. But

886
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 9: it's like like I feel the same way as far

887
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 9: as like it's just different songs like Miley Cyrus we

888
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 9: Can't Stop. I thought that song was gonna be my

889
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 9: first number one. It went number two Hot one hundred.

890
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 9: But it's like, you know what I'm saying, for like

891
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 9: we hit the target. I feel like we changed the

892
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 9: tempo and pop music at the time. I feel like

893
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 9: it was like just a culture shift period, you know

894
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 9: what I'm saying. And you know what I'm saying. So

895
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 9: like I feel like every song that I dropped, I

896
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 9: try to make sure, like, man, we're hitting the target,

897
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 9: and then we're gonna put it out. Then it's gonna

898
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 9: have that tag on there, but we're gonna put it out.

899
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 9: We're gonna we're gonna throw it on the shelf. And yeah,

900
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 9: who is a race Shrimmered, Race Shrimmer Man Black Beatles?

901
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying too, These like my Little

902
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 9: Brothers Man, like from Tupelo, Mississippi, Like Extreme Talentssippi, Yeah

903
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 9: from yeah, Extreme Crazy.

904
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: When they first came out, I thought I thought it

905
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: was one cat. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was one that.

906
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 9: Was like kind of like the that was like kind

907
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 9: of like the art behind it or like the math

908
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 9: behind it, because it's like Ray Shrimmer is really ear

909
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 9: Drummers backwards. You know what I'm saying. So like ear Drummers,

910
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 9: Race Shrimmer is Ear Drummers backwards. That yeah, So like

911
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 9: ear Drummers is my record label, you know what I'm saying. Like,

912
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 9: they gotta get you one of the pieces, one of

913
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 9: the ear drummer pieces.

914
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I want to earn the piece.

915
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: So you give me a thirty two bar, I'll bless it.

916
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: If you like it, give me a piece.

917
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 9: If you don't, like, we're gonna we're gonna lock in.

918
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 9: We're gonna get it all the way right. But but

919
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 9: but yeahss that yeah. So it's like when I met them,

920
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 9: their group name was Sway So Sway Lee and Jimmy Sway.

921
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 9: They brothers, you know what I'm saying. And they had

922
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 9: the other homeboy, Bobo Sway with him, you know what

923
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 9: I'm saying, and they were all locking in making music

924
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 9: with each other. Then when we started working on working

925
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 9: on the album Boom, I was like, man, hey, look

926
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 9: like I'm always about like things like standing apart. So

927
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 9: I was like, man, bro, I ain't gonna lie if

928
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 9: we like if we dropped this music. And I go

929
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 9: to Shack and be like, man, you heard that new

930
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 9: song out there with Sway Shaq gonna be like, dang,

931
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 9: he did this song with Sway in the morning, like

932
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 9: he gonna You're gonna automatically think that, you know what

933
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 9: I'm saying. I was like, man, I had this rock

934
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 9: and roll group that I was trying to come out

935
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 9: with called Race Shrimmer and they were like, what's that?

936
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 9: And I was like, it's Ear Drummers backwards and they

937
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 9: were like they were already part of Ear Drummers. They

938
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 9: were producers and songwriters and you know what I'm saying,

939
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 9: these are our brothers, like and they were like, man, hey, yeah,

940
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 9: that's too hard, you know what I'm saying. And I

941
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 9: was like, man, people not gonna know if it's one person,

942
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 9: if it's two people, if it's a group, what y'all

943
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 9: look like. And that's why we just put it out

944
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 9: with the Colors at first. And then people didn't know

945
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 9: if they were kids, if they're you know what I'm saying,

946
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 9: because they were talking crazy, but they had young voices,

947
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 9: and it was like, that's how we broke the mold

948
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 9: and just got people to like look that direction. But

949
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 9: we knew like people wouldn't catch on the race shimmer

950
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,479
Speaker 9: being ear drummers backwards, you know what I'm saying.

951
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: Till whenever. So, where do you rank cities that have

952
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: influenced music in the past twenty years? Number one for

953
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: show gotta be number one for show at I've been

954
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: living here for thirty years and Atlanta been cracking for

955
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: thirty years. Yeah, no, for real.

956
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 9: It's just like it's like it's so many, it's so

957
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 9: much talent in one part, and you gotta be you

958
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 9: gotta have your own style of you gotta be able

959
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 9: to you know what I'm saying, move the city to

960
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 9: even stand out out here, you know what I'm saying.

961
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 9: So everybody, you know what I'm saying, everybody who ends

962
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 9: up standing out out here, it's special in their own right,

963
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying. And then when that moves

964
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 9: the city and you pop off from Atlanta, you know

965
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 9: what I'm saying, it's like and the world really really

966
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 9: looks at it, like like how they even looked at Detroit,

967
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying, Like back in the day,

968
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 9: it's like in New York, it's like the world is

969
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 9: looking at it like that. There no disrespect to anybody,

970
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 9: but like Pluto, Gucci and two changes, Like I came

971
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 9: in with them, so I saw them as the underdogs first,

972
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 9: and I saw them when like the world wasn't even

973
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 9: looking and like and everything I saw my bad always

974
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 9: cause you know what I'm saying, the future my bad.

975
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 9: Oh okay, you know what I'm saying, Like they actually

976
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 9: doing it today. They and I saw him like like

977
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 9: be the underdogs and then come through and like move

978
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 9: the world and like the world actually be like moved

979
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 9: by what they're doing. And then Tip was like there

980
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 9: was an era where I was you know what I'm

981
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 9: saying always just every album Tip Dropper is just like

982
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 9: man when he came through, I feel like he moved

983
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 9: it like that too. I wasn't there behind the scenes

984
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 9: and seeing it, but I was there as a That's

985
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 9: when I was just a straight consumer and it was like,

986
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying, I'm seeing how he moved

987
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 9: in the game. At that point, he's showing how Atlanta,

988
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 9: how far we could take it. And then Andre three thousand,

989
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 9: It's like he always lives in his own space, in

990
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 9: his own world, and I feel like he set the

991
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 9: tone for a lot of different things as well, and

992
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 9: just coming through unique and saying true true to himself.

993
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: So what what what? What's your thoughts? And I hurt

994
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: my feelings, So what's your thoughts on NBA players that

995
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: try to turn into rappers? Now?

996
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 9: I got it, man, You've been asked me a question. Man,

997
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 9: I gotta just flick go ahead. You feel about like

998
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 9: the celebrity basketball players like that rapper basketball players? You

999
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying, like when they get on the court.

1000
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: So for me, I always tell people I never wanted

1001
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: to be a rapper, right, So for me it was

1002
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: just I was always taught to maximize my potential and

1003
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: follow my dreams. We all come from the same place.

1004
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: You all want to be so like kids. Now you

1005
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: want to be Mike Kobe Lebron. When I was coming up,

1006
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: you want to be Doctor J or Magic Johnson. Right.

1007
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: And on the hip hop side, I had I had

1008
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: a gold dookie rope chain. It wasn't real, but I

1009
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: wanted to be Allocuja. Yeah. So I used to mimic

1010
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: what I used to see so playing ball and Ryman

1011
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. So when I went to the

1012
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: Arsenio Hall show, I said, I want to I want to,

1013
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: you know, I want to. I want to be introduced

1014
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: to the out in a different way. Everybody comes on,

1015
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: sit in their suits, talk about what they're gonna do,

1016
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: and boom boom bam, and I said, I said, no,

1017
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: I want to rap on my favorite rap group and

1018
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: Foo Snickers was my favorite rap group at the time.

1019
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: So I did it. But people don't know I've been

1020
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: doing it the whole time. So I did it. They

1021
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: liked it, and then my agent called me. He said, man,

1022
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna lead us. Job just offered you ten

1023
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: million for three albums. I can't turn that down. So

1024
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: I had a meeting with Job. I said, you know,

1025
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't really want to be a rapper. However, as

1026
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: a kid that's always dreaming, my concept will be I

1027
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: want to rhyme with all my favorite rappers. And that's

1028
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: why I think I have the biggest, the best discography

1029
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to people that are trying to be rappers. Again,

1030
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: I never wanted to be a rapper, but yeah, being

1031
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: in the studio with Notorious, Big Priceless, being in a

1032
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: studio with Niles and jay Z, Peter Gunn's Lord, Tariq,

1033
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: DJ quick Ice, q Snoop Dogg. It don't get no

1034
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: better than that, you know. So when I I did

1035
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: the first album produced by Eric Sherman and The Redman,

1036
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: and they put me to the ringers. They actually taught

1037
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: me the music building. They say, nah, because we got

1038
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: our name on it, that's how you're going to have

1039
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: to do it. So sometimes I'd be in the studio

1040
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: all night, Nope, do it again, Nope, do it again.

1041
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: Chip Foo was like that too, from Fushika, Nope, do

1042
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: it again. So I kind of had to start from here.

1043
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: And then you know, working with all those producers, and

1044
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: every time I work with a producer, I say sendmy beat,

1045
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: they's like, not, you got auditioned. So I would have

1046
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: to come in and freestyle and you know, have my

1047
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: stuff ready. So I did it for fun. I went

1048
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: platinum the first time, and I was like, man, this

1049
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: feels pretty good. But then when I got that check,

1050
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: I was like when I got the check, I was

1051
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: like this it yeah coming. Because I was making so

1052
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: much money, I was like, you know what, I'm gonna

1053
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: just forget the celebrity part and and hav them from

1054
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: making money part. I just want to have fun. So

1055
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: and I've never been turned down by artists never, So

1056
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: I think that says a lot about me.

1057
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 9: You're you're you're a superhero too many. But only reason

1058
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 9: I asked that is because I feel like I feel

1059
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 9: the same way that you, know what I'm saying, Like,

1060
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 9: I feel like like I don't like like when when

1061
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 9: I say, like, how you look at like celebrity rappers,

1062
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 9: that's trying to be like basketball players, you know what

1063
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 9: I'm saying. I'm sure like some of them are nice,

1064
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 9: but you already know if they were to get on

1065
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 9: that if they were to get in that paint with

1066
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 9: you or you know what I'm saying, get on the

1067
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 9: floor with like you, Kobe and like and amongst the

1068
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 9: people that you were playing with, Like it's like they

1069
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 9: probably can't perform at that magnet too, but like they

1070
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 9: probably always had hoop dreams and they could hoop or whatever,

1071
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying, and they probably never took

1072
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 9: it all the way series And I feel like that's

1073
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 9: the same thing. Like I feel like like you, like

1074
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 9: you just said, you just spilled it, like man, you

1075
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 9: always had like a passion, you know what I'm saying,

1076
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 9: to rap and just work with certain ones, and I

1077
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 9: feel like, even even when it was rolled out, it's

1078
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 9: more like, man, our favorite basketball player and he rapping,

1079
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 9: so look like, man, he just having fun with this ship.

1080
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 9: And he hard though, but you know what I'm saying,

1081
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 9: he just haven't fun with this ship. But you know

1082
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 9: what I'm saying exactly, And it's like I feel like

1083
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 9: you nailed that. You know what I'm saying, Like you

1084
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 9: nailed that also, Man, I feel like you need to

1085
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 9: come to the studio at the William in the city

1086
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 9: and pull up and lock in with Mike Well, the producer.

1087
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying, because you locked in with

1088
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 9: all the mother guys and let's see what we can.

1089
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Beats.

1090
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 9: Beats, I say, you got locked in at the studio. Yeah,

1091
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 9: we're gonna do it the right way. We're gonna do

1092
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 9: it the right way. Now. Yeah, Now you gotta pull

1093
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 9: up to the William. Man, get that ear drummer saying man,

1094
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 9: and that ear drummer piece. Man will bring it up

1095
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 9: because I ain't gonna lie this new generation that need

1096
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 9: to hear you pop your ship. And one thing I

1097
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 9: always respected about you is like, man, you you go

1098
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 9: for you know what I'm saying. Like you you got

1099
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 9: all these different businesses.

1100
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

1101
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 9: You might be playing basketball, you might be doing movies,

1102
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 9: you might be you know what I'm saying, dropping product.

1103
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 9: But one thing about do you already have emotion? You

1104
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. So like, that's one thing I

1105
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 9: respected about you. You know what I'm saying, whether it's

1106
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 9: rapping or like you feel me, stuff like that. So

1107
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 9: salute you doing that all right? Up, I feel the

1108
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 9: same way about you, brother. Thanks for coming to the

1109
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 9: ship Hooker Studios. No you dead man, appreciate you fing,

1110
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 9: but definitely pull up on you non for Shure.

1111
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: Hey you text me. I'm there man for Shure. I

1112
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: get it.

1113
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, thirty times four.

1114
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: I averaged one hundred and twenty points. Motherfucker.