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Speaker 1: sent you. What is up, everybody? John middle Coop, fresh

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Speaker 1: off a thirteen hour drive back from the Bay Area.

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Speaker 1: watch a little football, a little cowboy game. I basically

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Speaker 1: Or is it just like kind of quarterback code you

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Speaker 1: most normal, typically smartest, easy going guys that if they're

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Speaker 1: your neighboring society, every person is gonna like. These guys

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Speaker 1: can't stand the fucking guy. So Russell Wilson not only sucks,

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Speaker 1: he is despised by his teammates. Now, could we argue

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Speaker 1: do not like playing with them. So I would say

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Speaker 1: not like everything they've done it's probably been perfect. They

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Speaker 1: have made some mistakes. Well what could they do out

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Speaker 1: what you can't do when you pay a quarterback a

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, Brian shot and Imer is probably as good

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Speaker 1: I think this ownership group is gonna realize business doesn't

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Speaker 1: they are a bohemoth. We've seen it before. They have

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Speaker 1: a big brand, but the only way to win is

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Speaker 1: the higher good coach, have a good quarterback, and have

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Speaker 1: a good operation. Picket sales, marketing, all that stuff is

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Speaker 1: easy when your team runs. So everything that Penner can do,

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Speaker 1: he he actually can't do any of it because he

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Speaker 1: how does he have any clue what to look for? Help?

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Speaker 1: So I'm not not trying to be a down run Denver,

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Speaker 1: Jim Harball want to be Russell Wilson. Uh. To me,

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Speaker 1: for them. Uh you know, we'll see. I saw some

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Speaker 1: But if they're good players are not on the field,

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Speaker 1: the Niners beat them, even you know, with a little

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Speaker 1: is violent and like I don't ever get on my

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Speaker 1: moral high horse about concussions. I saw was it justin

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Speaker 1: The consumer, like I say, I don't apologize for liking

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Speaker 1: violence in the game, by no means is as violent

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Speaker 1: as it was when I fell in love with football. Hell,

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Speaker 1: when I played high school football. I remember people getting

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Speaker 1: concussions in high school and going back in the game,

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna get hurt, and big guys get hurt,

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Speaker 1: and also little guys get hurt. And to his little

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Speaker 1: was hurt in college in the most physical conference, and

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Speaker 1: he's you know when I remember my two years working

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Speaker 1: agency meetings, just talking not even about the big guys,

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he's missed three games in four years.

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Speaker 1: Well what were his injuries? Well, he sprained his ankle

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Speaker 1: a finger, and they taped it up and he had

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Speaker 1: to miss one game, but other than that, he's been durable.

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Speaker 1: He'd be like, kind of freak deals, right, a c L.

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Speaker 1: He's had one a c L injury he missed the season,

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Speaker 1: but other than that he's been durable. You're like, no

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Speaker 1: big deal, will you go? Oh, he had three concussions

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Speaker 1: in a season. It's it's impossible to quantify that because

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Speaker 1: and by the information we have now, the more concussions

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Speaker 1: you have, the more likely you're going to get more.

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Speaker 1: So here's what I know. And I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: beat up on the guy because I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: a very good player. I think he's a lot of

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Speaker 1: smoke in mirrors. But as a person, I whenever I

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Speaker 1: see a press conference, knowing some of the people at Alabama,

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Speaker 1: he's a good guy. People really like him. Clearly his

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Speaker 1: teammates in Miami like him. And I don't root against

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Speaker 1: people even if I don't like you as a player,

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Speaker 1: if you're a good person. Now my take ultimately is

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Speaker 1: you do, I do. We're all humans. But like I

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Speaker 1: think Two is a good person who's an average player

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Speaker 1: who now has major injury concerns, Like here's a fact

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Speaker 1: they're not picking up his fifth year option, which they

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00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: have to do at the end of this season. So

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Speaker 1: to his career in Miami, obviously his career as a

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Speaker 1: human being. If you just get concussions all the time,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna play because you cannot stay on the field.

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Speaker 1: And he gets thrown hard a lot, of course he does.

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Speaker 1: He's trainy. He is very very small, and he can't

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Speaker 1: run away. And I saw someone on the internet, you know,

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Speaker 1: when Twa came out of high school, he was the

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Speaker 1: number one dual threat quarterback. The way I remember him

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Speaker 1: described to me was like not quite as athletic as

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Speaker 1: Steve Young, but more like a younger Russell Wilson. And

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Speaker 1: I think that was kind of his game when he

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Speaker 1: was younger. Well what did he have to do? He

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Speaker 1: started get you gotta get thicker. He couldn't be like

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Speaker 1: six ft eighty pounds. He had to put on weight

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Speaker 1: and get thicker. Well, the thicker he got, he can't

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Speaker 1: really move relative to like a quote unquote good NFL

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Speaker 1: quarterback athlete. So he's a pocket quarterback who's small, and

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Speaker 1: it just feels like his seasons probably over. And I

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Speaker 1: love this, Like there's gonna be too much media pressure

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Speaker 1: on them to put him back. Now it's like two

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Speaker 1: is gonna want to play. I would have imagine because

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Speaker 1: clearly you know it's it doesn't look safe for him.

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00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: It does not look safe for two to play football.

639
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair statement to make. But if

640
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: you go, John, do you think two is gonna keep

641
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: wanting to play? I'd say, fun, yeah he is, hell yeah,

642
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: he is one million percent, But his time with Miami,

643
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: I would say moving forward is in major jeopardy. Now

644
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: before I remember, you know, part of what you do

645
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: when you're around you know, the family, drinking some cocktails,

646
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: you're always thinking about, like what's my angle on this game?

647
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: And when two of us throwing the interceptions and you'd

648
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: crush him. But now if you go, well, he was

649
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: concussed the whole second half, didn't quite know what he

650
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: was doing. You know, I give him a little leeway,

651
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: though I do think that level of play resembles more

652
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: closely who he actually is then some of those numbers

653
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: did earlier in the season numbers eye test. The whole

654
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: thing is pretty terrible. Jay Glazer came out, I would

655
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: have been Saturday or Sunday, probably Saturday. Zack Wilson's not

656
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: gonna be on the team, and he's just he's a

657
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: god awful player like that. There are is you can

658
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: have hope right for projects. You know, I'm recording this

659
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: before the Thursday night game. Malik Willis is not even playing.

660
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: But Malik Willis is a project's project, you know, basically

661
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: has all these physical attributes but has no clue how

662
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: to play the position. Then there are projects like Josh Allen.

663
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: They're like, if we could just improve his accuracy, and

664
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: it did. And then there are projects somewhere in the middle,

665
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: like Trey Lance, where it's like, well, he's more more

666
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: than likely he's not gonna be any good, but there's

667
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: still a lot there, and he's a a guy. You know,

668
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: you gotta fix his mechanics a little bit. Maybe he

669
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: could be an above average player. And then there's Zack Wilson,

670
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: who you know, plays the schedule that's a complete joke

671
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: the COVID year and gets drafted number two overall, Like

672
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: who are you actually look at their schedule most years

673
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: pretty solid. That was not the case in two thousands one.

674
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: And I never understood why Joe Douglas, a Baltimore Ravens guy,

675
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: didn't go with the big physical athlete in Justin Fields.

676
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. This guy played at Ohio State

677
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: at Georgia five star guy right there with Trevor Lawrence

678
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: needs some work too. Just because Zack Wilson made some

679
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: good throws against Weaver State and South Carolina West. Who

680
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: cares now he fell in love with him, And it's

681
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: a debacle of a situation. Now. Luckily he's drafted well enough,

682
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: his coach looks good, but it's hard. I heard Colin

683
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: and Nick Wright saying, like, the only way that a quarterback, say,

684
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: situation hold you back forever is if you don't pivot

685
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: on from it, right, Like, this is not a five

686
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: year mistake if they pivot on from But who are

687
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: they pivoting it for? Like, Okay, Jimmy Garoppolo natural connection

688
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: because you know the flora was around him in San Francis.

689
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo gets hurt every single year. Broke his foot

690
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: this year, heard his shoulder last year, also broke his

691
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: thumb last year, tording a c L. It's heard his shoulder,

692
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: so is Jimmy. You just signed Jimmy Garoppolo and Mike

693
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: White's backup, and you just at least we got two guys.

694
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: Now they have to move on from Zach Wilson. You

695
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: can't function with the guy. He's not a functional player.

696
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: Like there's I would say you could argue Malik Willis

697
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: what we saw with him this year is not If

698
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: you can't complete passes, basic passes, a wheel route, a

699
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: slant route, you have no chance to operate. I'd even

700
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: argue in college football and definitely the NFL. But you

701
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: know it'll be a pretty big b because he doesn't

702
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: make it that much money. You're just gonna cut him

703
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: and eat the dead cap even though it's not huge.

704
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: But you did give him, you know, twenty six million

705
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: dollars or whatever his signing bonus was. Um be a

706
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: pretty crazy all time pivot quickly. I think JaMarcus made

707
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: it three years two. I wouldn't blame them, he's that terrible,

708
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: but god, they must hate him in the GIP. That's

709
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: a difference like TOA. Obviously two is a better player

710
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: when he's on the field of Zack Wilson. But this

711
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: is what I always said, and to even different Russell

712
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: like the guys like to ah. If if the if

713
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: the players on my team do not like to A,

714
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: or I mean do not like my quarterback, I have

715
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: an issue. So I want to hear uh. Sean Payton

716
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: goes to Denver, they give him a hundred fifty million dollars.

717
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: Sean Payton his entire coaching career except one season he

718
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: had Drew Brees as his quarterback. Drew Brees is like

719
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: one of the highest character guys in NFL history, bobbed

720
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: by coaches, players, and any human being that has ever

721
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: interacted with the guy that is Sean Payton standard of human,

722
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: let alone player. And he's gonna go to Russell Wilson,

723
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: who is literally the opposite who star teammates in Seattle

724
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: and now the teammates in Denver don't even pretend to

725
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: hide it, no chance. And Zack Wilson, it doesn't feel

726
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: quite is venomous, like he had a little bit of

727
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: a comeback the second time he got benched. But you

728
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: watch that game yet it's like it's a production based business.

729
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: And when you do not produce at the levels in

730
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: which not even clothes, like, we're not even functioning. I

731
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: can't take you seriously. Anyone who's ever had a job

732
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: with someone who shouldn't be in their position and you're

733
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: reliant on them. It starts off by frustration, right, you're like, God,

734
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: I wish this guy would bring a little bit more

735
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: to the table. And then you get to the point

736
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: a month in six months in we're like, it's costing

737
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: you money, it's costing you stress where you just hate

738
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: the motherfucker. You can't even look at the person because

739
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: you start you're now hurting the way I'm feeding my

740
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: family at first, Like everyone transition period, learning process, welcome

741
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: to life after a certain point in time. In high

742
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: level industries, I would say in most businesses, like figure

743
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: it out, bro, figure it out. The one rumors floating

744
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: around the Bill O'Brien might be the next offensive coordinator

745
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots if they fire, which is Belichick?

746
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: How often does he fire coaches? Gets rid of Patricia

747
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: and judge what I think happened. I think Bill O'Brien

748
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: is the next head coach of the New England Patriots.

749
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: Now we'll see what happens this weekend. Are the Patriots

750
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: gonna keep losing? Mac Jones kicking everyone in the nuts?

751
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: Mac Jones like, bro, get ahold of yourself. I have

752
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: less of an issue though, Like I know the one

753
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: viral video of him Cincinnati where he went on all

754
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: fours and he tried to roll the guy like it

755
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: doesn't look great. My bigger issues was like he's a

756
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: mental head case, always screaming to people. Think, Bro, you're

757
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: not Tom, You're not Aaron Rodgers screamed to someone in

758
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins game. It's like a four time, m

759
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: v P. Mac, Why are you always screaming? How are you? Mac?

760
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: How are you any different screaming at Kendrick Bourne or

761
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: any of these guys on the team Hunter, Henry. They

762
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: have played way more football than you and accomplished everything

763
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: you have and more. When you're gonna scream at people,

764
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: whether you're a coach, whether you're a player, whether you're

765
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: a parent, like you better be sitting the right example,

766
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: like who are you, buddy? Yeah? Parents all love to

767
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: think they get to scream at you for whatever they want,

768
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: which is technically true because they pay for everything. But like,

769
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: it's harder to take a superior a boss, whoever a

770
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: quarterback if you ain't getting it done. So I is

771
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: the Patriot job really that desirable? Now? Billy Oh worked

772
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones maybe likes them, so it does make

773
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: some sense. But Patriots, man, what a what a bizarre season?

774
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: Back at it after a little Christmas festivities with my

775
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: guy Stucky thirty three three and one, who probably hasn't

776
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: moved off his couch for a week, watching football just

777
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: feels like just NonStop games. The best you get up

778
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: there's a bowl game with six and six teams, you

779
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: go to bed. You got a future potentially number one

780
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: pick against Oregon, and just how crazy was that kick?

781
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: You find him on the Action Network Action Network podcast

782
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: as well as Big Bets on Campus stuck e. What's cracking?

783
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: Bro Brother? Yeah? We uh like in a half hour,

784
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: there's a where you know, we're gonna have a two

785
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon. There's a whole game. If the

786
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: if the world always operated like this, there would be

787
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: no one would ever get anything done, absolutely no chance.

788
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: How about that Oregon kick? That was Yeah, that was

789
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: insane and people who had the over almost had a

790
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: lifeline of a tie game similar to Arkansas Kansas, which

791
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: was also a wild game. Say the balls are getting good,

792
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: the games will start to matter more, and I think

793
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna get two good college football playoff games. And

794
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: the great thing about the schedule this weekend is normally

795
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: it's like New Years It's gonna feel a little weird

796
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: New Year's Day and not like watching the Rose Bowl

797
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: and you know, being hung over on the couch. But

798
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna get Saturday college ball playoff, Sunday full NFL

799
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: slate with a lot of ploff invocations, and then Monday

800
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, Rose Bowl in college football all day, so

801
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: hell of a weekend? Is there a money Is there

802
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: a money night football game? On the second? Yeah? It

803
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: Bill's Bengals. I mean, how do you do you get

804
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: a Rose Bawl and Bill's Bengals. I mean, holy moly.

805
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: ESPN had to come out and say, if the rose

806
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: ball goes a little long, they're gonna keep the rose

807
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: Ball on. They give you an official announcement and put

808
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: Bills Bengals on ESPN two. Um, which is shocking. It's

809
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: probably the only time the NFL would ever take the

810
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: back seat to anything. But it's what what what a weekend.

811
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Speaker 1: I'd argue that as an incredible back to back just

812
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl with you know, Penn State's gonna try it obviously,

813
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: you this is their super Bowl to go Bills Bengals.

814
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's gotta be when the season ends, on paper,

815
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: one of the better games of the season. Yeah. Yeah,

816
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: two Lane UFC too, I think will be an interesting

817
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: game earlier in the day. Um so yeah, it's that's

818
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: what I'm one day. It's crazy. You know, Drake may

819
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: I think you brought him up to me way earlier

820
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: in the season. I wasn't super locked in on U

821
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Speaker 1: n C. And I mean, obviously he's incredible and me's

822
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: come out. He's turning down five million dollars, which I

823
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say probably Alabama, Georgia, texasan and

824
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: one of those type teams offered them money. And then

825
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: yesterday I get up or two days ago and the

826
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: wake Forest kid who's been putting up huge numbers for years,

827
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't even in the portal, just goes in the portal.

828
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: And then he's at Notre Dame. You know, he got

829
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: a enormous direct deposit. I'll promise you this with Notre Dame. Guys,

830
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: if you've ever met the rich Notre Dame, that money

831
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: is already through. That money went through, and he said

832
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: to see you guys later. Uh and and think about

833
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, Drake may bow Nicks is a guy. He's

834
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: got a little Zack Wilson do his game just in

835
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: term it kind of runs around, makes plays. Has just

836
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: completely unlike Zack, has resurrected his career. I mean, how

837
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: that guy was so terrible. I didn't I was in

838
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: the car yesterday so I wasn't able to watch the game.

839
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: But he's had a I mean for how crappy he

840
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: was just a fantastic year. It's this quarterback class next

841
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: year is gonna be pretty fun. Yeah, well he's yeah,

842
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: he's coming back. Um x is coming back. Yeah, And

843
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: I think that, Um, I do think I thought this

844
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: from early on just from watching him. M'st see what

845
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: Grace McCall has got some potential will go from Coastal Carolina.

846
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, just from watching Drake May and then anytime

847
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: I was digging into like advanced stats and it would

848
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: be like, all right, quarterbacks under pressure, what do they

849
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: And Drake Man is just jumping off the page. So

850
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: I started watching him. I truly believe he's going to

851
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: be the best quarterback, the best future pro quarterback that's

852
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: currently in college. And last night he's playing you know,

853
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: he has a bad offensive line and he was playing

854
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: without his best receiver who opted out. Um, his offensive

855
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: coordinator is bad all year, and yeah, the kid just

856
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: has it and he can make every throw and um yeah,

857
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: it's it's It's one of the things that you know,

858
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: maybe some kids hang around the extra year in college

859
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: because you're gonna get paid. You get these superstars, you

860
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: can get paid. Uh, come back for one more year.

861
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm a huge fan of May. I would

862
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: buy his stock now. Yeah, I think he's going to

863
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: be in the mix. You know, everyone just puts Caleb there,

864
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: and obviously he was fantastic this season. But Drake is

865
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: gonna have something to say. He's bigger. Um, you know,

866
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a little different, more difficult observation because

867
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: this program is not gonna just be as good as

868
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: USC But I'm I'm with you in texting around the buddies.

869
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: He turned down Alabama at high school and obviously probably

870
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: just turned him down again. So I mean you're looking

871
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: at a guy that is big time. Well, let's get

872
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: into some of these NFL games. The Jets, who officially

873
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: basically are done with our boy from b Y. You

874
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: are taking broken rib Mike White back and you would

875
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: think that Joe Namath is walking back through the door

876
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: playing Seattle. Who you know, basically we all shorted. You know,

877
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: three or four weeks ago you could tell they were

878
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: leaking oil and now, um they got some problems. There's

879
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: a weird spot. You know, how how injured is he is?

880
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: He just I mean it took him a while to

881
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: get cleared in the first place. So I would imagine

882
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: he's not just feeling great, but given how terrible Zack

883
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: Wilson is that that no one can argue. I mean,

884
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: this isn't just it's a dramatic I mean they went

885
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: to a guy who couldn't throw that I had never

886
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: heard of in my life, who had been in the CFL,

887
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: and who also couldn't throw in the NFL game, and

888
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: it felt like, yeah, I give him a better chance

889
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: to move the ball. So I like the Justice Weekend. Yeah,

890
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: it didn't feel like that. I was that. That's how

891
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: it was. I mean, Zack Wilson is he now if

892
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: you look at a stat like ELO, he's now as

893
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: the lowest ELO of any quarterback through twenty two starts

894
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: in NFL history. Um so yeah, talk about a bust

895
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: and you know we're talking. We're gonna talk week seventeen,

896
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: Week eighteen, and you're you're gonna see a lot of

897
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: the NFL. You always see upsets that you never expect.

898
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: And I remember when the Jets beat the Rams, like

899
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't know four or five years ago, I didn't

900
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: get the number one overall pick because of that meaningless

901
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: game to them. Um won the game and lost the

902
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: number one pick, and instead of getting Trevor Lawrence ended

903
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: up with Zach Wilson. So it's funny on some of

904
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: these late season games that are pure meaningless can change

905
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: the direction of the franchise. Imagine if the Jets had

906
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, it's I mean, I think they would

907
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: be competing. They might not be as good as the

908
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: Bills in the Chiefs and the Bengals, but they'd be

909
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: a real now yeah, yeah, they'd be a real threw.

910
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: That's the that's the one missing piece that that they have.

911
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, Mike White clearly gives Michael clearly givesn't the

912
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: best chance to win. I think it's mainly just, uh,

913
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, if he was cleared, he wanted to play

914
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, so I assume that he's fine going

915
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: up against just a horrible Seattle d sense has been

916
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: trending in the wrong direction. The Jets will be able

917
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: to get their run game going here as well. Uh,

918
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: and White can just complete all the passes. He's not

919
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: a complete disaster out there and the mark I don't

920
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: think the market upgrades the Jets enough for when Mike

921
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: White starts. The Jets for whatever reason, have taken money

922
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: the past two weeks like sharp late money. They did

923
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: it against the Jaguars and the lines even though Zack

924
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: Wilson was starting. I completely disagree. I think it's to

925
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: two and a half paint upgrade, maybe even three two

926
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: Mike White. Jets defense still really good to be the

927
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: best unit on the field here, and both teams be motivated.

928
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: They still have outside playoff chances. Locket tied to Lockett

929
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: his statuses and doubt indoor he might not be fully

930
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: healthy with his hand. Jets get a few extra days

931
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: of prep here after playing on Thursday. There five and

932
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: two against the spread on the road this year, defense

933
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: special teams. They travel well. They're only losses came against

934
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots on a walk off punt return and against

935
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: the Vikings when the game they should have won, when

936
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: you know the Viking's got three goal on stops at

937
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: the end. So Jets, you get Mike White here. Jets

938
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: defense is the difference Seattle team that's just fading quick.

939
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: They haven't covered in six straight weeks. I think the

940
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: Jets get it done on the road here. Well, the

941
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: Giants had a chance basically solidify their playoff chances last

942
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: week in that Minnesota game, and I mean it's Minnesota

943
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: just pulls these games out of you know, crevices. They

944
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: who knows where they're grabbing them from, but they do it.

945
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: So I I've said, listen, I've started just giving them credit.

946
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna win the super Bowl or anything,

947
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: but you win enough of these. Maybe it's just historically

948
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: that franchise has kind of been snake bid. Maybe this

949
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: is just their year where they just win all these

950
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: crazy games to get to the super Bowl. But you know,

951
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: the Giants gold snake. I mean Nick Foles, Holy Molly,

952
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: that that was pretty ugly the other day. I don't

953
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: think I could put money on the Colts, and now

954
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: the Giants this is this is kind of their doppelganger,

955
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: but much worse. Right, this is really ugly. The ball

956
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: doesn't move as well, though. I'd say Sae Kwan has

957
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: looked much more explosive these last couple of weeks. Daniel Jones,

958
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: you gotta give him some credit, and he definitely resurrected

959
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: his career as just being a serviceable player, which he

960
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: definitely wasn't. And I think that looking back, probably a

961
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: Joe Judge Pat Srmer issue. But I like the Giants

962
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: in this spot, especially at home. Yeah, I played. I

963
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: disagree here. I played the I played the Colts. Now

964
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 1: this is chocker. I played a really bad team, um

965
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: the Colts this year after double digit losses, they've lost

966
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: three and they got just got embarrassed by the Chargers

967
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: and in folds played he was awful. He is awful,

968
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: but I mean so is Ryan Zoe's linger. Yeah, I

969
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: don't think there's much Yeah, this at least will be

970
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: his second start, so you know, he shook some of

971
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: the rust off. He was missing some some easy reads

972
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: on on defensive things that he should know, but it

973
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: was his first action of the year. I think he'll

974
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: be a little bit better and then they'll be able

975
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: to run the vall a little bit here. And they

976
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: still have a top ten defenses defensives ranth you know,

977
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: I have them ranked that ten or eleventh in the

978
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: league right now. And they're playing really well overall, like

979
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: they played well last week and just couldn't get anything

980
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: going on offense. And you're gonna see this a lot,

981
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: and I'll talk about this next week as well. There

982
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: is because I think this line is just a little

983
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: bit too I mean, the Giants were just I agree

984
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: with you there on the line probably should be like

985
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: four yeah, and you're asking you're asking the Giants to

986
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: win by a touchdown or more. And this is the team,

987
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: by the way, they had eight wins in the air

988
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: they're all by one possession um. This is a team

989
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: that struggles to build margin. Their defense isn't great. And

990
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: you see this in the final two weeks of the

991
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: regular season in the NFL every year in the market

992
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: where teams that are eliminated are playing teams that need

993
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: to win, and the perception is, oh, I want to

994
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: bet the team that needs to win. Obviously that it

995
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: doesn't really work. If you go back to ninth since

996
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: eliminated teams, we've already been eliminated in the the playoffs playing

997
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: teams that need to win for playoff their playoff hopes.

998
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: The eliminated teams are ninety five, fifty seven and four

999
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: against the spread at sixty two and a half percent.

1000
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: And the reason for that is these are still NFL players,

1001
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: they still have pride, and a lot of times these

1002
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: bad teams it's like, oh, now, this is basically our playoff,

1003
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 1: we get a chance to play spoiler. They play looser,

1004
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: the other teams playing tighter, and then you have an

1005
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: inflated line, which I think you're getting in this case.

1006
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: And the Colts, look, they've lost three other times by

1007
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: double digits. The next week's the next week and by

1008
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: that they were plus four and a half at Minnesota

1009
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago they were up thirty three,

1010
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: nothing getting covered. They also beat the Chiefs the weekendter

1011
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: losing by double digits, and they wont at the Raiders,

1012
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: so it was cover. Yeah, a big sweat. So yeah,

1013
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: they were they were plus four and a half of Minnesota,

1014
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: so was you know recently the Giants were plus four

1015
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: and a half at Minnesota. Recently the market was like,

1016
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: these two teams are pretty even, you know, throwing home

1017
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: field old folds. Maybe it's a little downry even now

1018
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: you get six. I have to take this, and yeah,

1019
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: week sixteen road Dogs from two thousand to two, so

1020
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: you're looking at before they expanded the eighteen weeks, teams

1021
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: that are under five hundred on the road catching points,

1022
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: so losing team catching points over a field goal fifty

1023
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: three and thirty against the spread, and that speaks to Okay,

1024
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: no one wants to bet bet these teams that are

1025
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 1: eliminated against these teams that are playing for something at home,

1026
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: and you're just getting a couple of points of value usually.

1027
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm holding my nose. I'm backing the Colts.

1028
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: It's ugly, I know, you know, looking at the standings

1029
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: with a win, you know they don't if they cover

1030
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: or not. The Giants are essentially in the playoffs because

1031
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: all these eight win teams that that tie is kind

1032
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: of gonna bail them out because they only even if

1033
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: they lose that last game, they would be nine six

1034
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: and one, and they're gonna be more than likely an

1035
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: eight lost team will be the seven seeds. So jihons

1036
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: Gihant's clinched with a win. Uh So, that's an incredible

1037
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: season from Brian Dayball because even in the old school

1038
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: NFL that they would have been a legitimate playoff team.

1039
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: Now it's the down NFC, but but still that's that team.

1040
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, I funk I didn't think

1041
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: they would be probably drafted in the top five. That's

1042
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: where I would have bet them to be. Not worth

1043
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: there in the mix. Yeah, the and you'll see that

1044
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: in this game too. There's a big coaching this match

1045
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: for sure, which is worth worth, which is worth something.

1046
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: But I value that more if you know the Giants

1047
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: were an underdog here. Um, I don't think that matters

1048
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: as much for a winning by Margins, but their staff,

1049
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: Brian Dable, I think be deserves Coach the Year, although

1050
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 1: you could argue Kyle Shanahan should be in the mix

1051
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: um for what he's done with Bertie um And and

1052
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: the forty niners. But Dabo has been just amazing. I mean,

1053
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: you go back to a game last week and we

1054
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: should we call him Joe Montana two point oh out? Yeah, sorry,

1055
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: I will refer to him as that going forward. Uh

1056
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: but yeah we and but but he was a guy

1057
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: in college. It was only good in October October, and

1058
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he's gonna leave the fort

1059
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: night of the Super Bowl. But you go back to

1060
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: last week, this is a this is a giant see

1061
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: that should have won that game, right. They outgained the

1062
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: Vikings four fifty to three fifty, the average close to

1063
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: seven yards per play, and it was Daniel Jones throwing

1064
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: to Richie James h forty Niners cast off and Isaiah

1065
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: Hodgins who combined for sixteen catches in a hundred and

1066
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: eighty yards. That's Dable. And you know, you look at

1067
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones this year, He's looked so much better. It's

1068
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: the simplified offense. It's just the play calling, simplifying everything

1069
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones, you know, keeping everything on one side

1070
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 1: of the field, and that's all coaching. The game management

1071
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: is improved. They're not running quarterback sneaks on third and eight, um.

1072
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: Just basic stuff and the play calling and and this

1073
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: is a team that's dealt with so many injuries. Look

1074
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: at their wide receiver corps, look at their defense. So yeah,

1075
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: a lot of credit the Dable and the Giants. I

1076
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: think that just they probably end up winning this game,

1077
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: as they've done a lot of games. It's here by

1078
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: three or four. To me, Daniel Jones has a little

1079
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: poor man's Alex Smith to him. You know, not the

1080
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: most physically gifted as a thrower, but can move obviously,

1081
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: smart guys like them and just needed some a coach

1082
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: that knew what he was doing and to believe in them,

1083
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: and you can just get them going on the right

1084
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: path and he's just gonna have I would imagine a

1085
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: pretty long career, and I would guess they probably just

1086
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: resign him, you know, at a manageable, pretty cheap number,

1087
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: just keep rolling, and then they just try to build

1088
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: up the squad and keep competing for the playoffs, kind

1089
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: of like the forty Niners did. Now Hardball had a

1090
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: better team of like players. The Niners were much more

1091
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 1: equipped to be a higher end team because he inherited

1092
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: the Willis is, the Vernon Davis is. But I would

1093
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: guess that Brian day Ball attacks it that way. Yeah,

1094
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: he's and it's more, it's even more amazing what he's

1095
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: doing because Gettleman left just an enormous mess, just a

1096
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: dumper fire, uh and salary cap situations. So it's gonna

1097
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: take some time to clean that up, you know, like

1098
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: things like the Goladay trade and contract and all that.

1099
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, if you look at Jones, people

1100
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: could say, like, oh, there was three years, we know

1101
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: who he is. But look at the situation that he

1102
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: was in arguably the worst offensive lines over the past

1103
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: couple of years, the worst management, horrendous coaching, um so,

1104
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: and you know it's not like he had elite weapons

1105
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: all over the field, but just the coaching and the

1106
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: offensive lines have been so bad. Now they have dressed

1107
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: out in the draft, Andrew Thomas looks like a steel

1108
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm assuming Neal will be great. So yeah, I think

1109
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: they're trending in the right direction. It's gonna take a

1110
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: couple of years to really fix it. But you know,

1111
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: the the NFC is looks like we're probably wide over

1112
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: the next couple of years. And yeah, the Giants are

1113
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: on the upward trajectory. Okay, let's uh Detroit, who listen?

1114
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: I I wanted them to make the playoffs at least

1115
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: to be right there with Green Bay and they still

1116
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: control their own destiny to have that game matter as

1117
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: long as green Bay wins. But holy moley, did they

1118
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: get their ass kicked last weekend? I mean that that

1119
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: was what did Carolina run for over three yards? I

1120
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: mean they and they embarrassed at that team now where

1121
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 1: they feeling themselves? The Panthers average that's like out when

1122
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: Alabama play is like the Citadel. Yeah, it was that

1123
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: a case of listen, this team had probably underachieved early, overachieved.

1124
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, there seven eight nine

1125
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: kind of right and where they're gonna end up, and

1126
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: they're probably a year away, and they just ran out

1127
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: of gas and got curb stomped to a Carolina team

1128
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: that still has a lot to play for. Obviously, they

1129
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: got a big game this week, play in Chicago, who

1130
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: plays in interesting games, yet they always lose. And when

1131
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: you look at the draft order, they have just kind

1132
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: of been holding down that number two spot, and depending

1133
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: on what happens to Texas the next couple of weeks,

1134
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: like they got a chance to draft number one for

1135
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: as sexy and as fun as it feels their season

1136
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: to be now, it would be an upset if the

1137
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: Texans don't end up, you know, holding down that number

1138
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: one spot. But Chicago has been right and shotgunning right

1139
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: there with him for a while, despite the way I know,

1140
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: I and a lot of people just kind of talk

1141
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: about him like right future look at fields, like does

1142
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: it really just him kind of run around? But you know,

1143
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: this is a spot you would think Detroit got their

1144
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: ass kicked comeback swinging numbers a little big, you know,

1145
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean, all these coaches every week to play justin

1146
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: fields and all these players go, Jesus, he was way

1147
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: faster he's just a menace. And while Detroit's defense has

1148
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: been better, uh, he just I don't care how fast

1149
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: your defenses. He could get held Week one in the

1150
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: rainstorms given the Niners problems running around. So he's just

1151
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: to me, he's a he's a cover machine, even though

1152
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: your team is probably gonna lose, which is ideal. I mean,

1153
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: you're a Bears fad you love that. You're like, all right,

1154
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: I feel proved himself because you want to talk about

1155
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: bad situations and bad management that is ruined. A team

1156
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 1: just talked about Kettleman and the Giants. Well, look at

1157
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: the Bears as well. I mean what fields is playing with.

1158
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the receivers, the offensive line, and

1159
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: the defense. The defense is the worst than the league.

1160
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: These are two horrendous defenses. I think that I think

1161
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: the Bears have to regret that mid season they traded

1162
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: their second round pick for Chase Claypool. I mean, I

1163
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: think that was I get it would be, and I'm

1164
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: all for being bold, but that that's a that's a

1165
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: swing there. Yeah that's the team you want to rebuild

1166
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: your draft capital, and and yeah they could get the pick,

1167
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: but actually, don't think it matters. I don't think they

1168
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: drafting the quarterback like the Texas. Yeah, they could trade it,

1169
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: but the Bears it too. Maybe you know, you get

1170
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: Will Anderson or you know, maybe address your offensive line.

1171
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, they they need draft capital. They need

1172
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: to get younger. The problem is with the conundrum. It's like,

1173
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: all right, Fields has prudent stuff, but you've got to

1174
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: rebuild this entire roster and the cap situation is a nightmare.

1175
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: But you know, but your fields on the rookie contract,

1176
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: so like, and that's when you really want to, you know,

1177
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: go after and you can really build your roster, but

1178
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: they're in such a bad spot up by the time

1179
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: they fixed a lot of the other things, Fields won't

1180
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: be on the rookie contract anyway. Yeah, this is this

1181
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: is almost we could just take what I said for

1182
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: the Colts Giants game and apply it here. This is

1183
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: another one of those games where a team that needs

1184
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: to win at home playing a division opponent no less

1185
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: that can spoil you know, spoil their season a lot

1186
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: of familiarity. And this is if you go back a

1187
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: month ago, the Bears were three point favorites at home

1188
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: against the Lions. Now fast forward, you know a month

1189
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: and change, they're catching six and in that game the

1190
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: Bears lost by one because of a pick six late.

1191
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: They averaged seven yards per play against the lines. In

1192
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: that game, they ran wild. They should be able to

1193
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 1: do that again here. The Lions offense will cook. There's

1194
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: a reason it's totals like fifty three, which is extremely high,

1195
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: especially this year in the NFL. But yeah, I mean

1196
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: the Bears should be able to do what they've done

1197
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: year keep games closed. They're coming off a stretch of

1198
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: like the Bills in um you know, in whether the Eagles,

1199
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: which they lost by one possession, the Packers probably should

1200
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: have won that game, and then the Jets when it

1201
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: was semi in verse white. So yeah, I think this

1202
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: is too many points in a division game for a

1203
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: Lions team that they you saw it last week. This

1204
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: is a team is gonna there a year away. It's

1205
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: gonna take some time dealing with pressure, dealing with expectations.

1206
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: Um So, I wouldn't be shocked if they dropped this game.

1207
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: I like where the lines are headed. They need to

1208
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: just hit on like their next two defensive pieces, and

1209
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: then they got to make a decision on the quarterback.

1210
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: I think golf is, can you did it with the

1211
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: with the with the Rams, you can get you to

1212
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: a super Bowl if you have the right pieces around them.

1213
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: But I think there there's still a year away. This

1214
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: line is too high for a division game. You're asking

1215
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: the lines went by a touchdown plus with that defense,

1216
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: I think that the Bears will care. From everything I've read,

1217
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: they want fields to get the quarterback rushing record. He

1218
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: should be able to run wild here. They've lost eight straight,

1219
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: They've been competitive. This is this line is way out

1220
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: of whack in my opinion. Yeah, to me, when it

1221
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: comes to Detroit and I would throw Seattle in there

1222
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: because they have the Rams and denver'se pick. It's gonna

1223
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: be interesting. And I know people think I'm nuts, but

1224
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: Will Levis is just He's just gonna go really high.

1225
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: Just the physical attributes, the character stuff. John Schneider once

1226
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: upon a time loved Josh Allen. One reason Russell Wilson

1227
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: has been mad at like the front office because remember

1228
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: he went to a Pro day and it was like

1229
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: he was in love with Josh Allen. He's trying to

1230
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: trade the Browns to get his hands on him. Now.

1231
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, Brad Holmes, you know that they function forever,

1232
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: and obviously he likes Terared Goff. Maybe he philosophically believes differently,

1233
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: But I think one of those two teams, just given

1234
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: you know, Seattle is going to be competitive, it's clear

1235
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: like they're not as long as Pete's there and they're

1236
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: like they're not gonna suck. And obviously Detroit definitely is

1237
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: not gonna suck. So having those two picks, one of

1238
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: those two teams, I don't know which one, but I'll

1239
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: be stunned if they don't kind of move up a

1240
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: couple of spots, if they end up at four or five,

1241
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: And I would bet money Will Levis ends up on

1242
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: one of those two teams. Yeah, I mean, on anything.

1243
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 1: Do you think about Dan Campbell, big strong, wants to throw,

1244
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, especially now he was around Sean Payton. Sean

1245
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,919
Speaker 1: Payton's you know, always kind of gravitated. He started wanting

1246
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: one of those type guys. That's a huge mentor of his.

1247
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: So I if one of those two teams could hit

1248
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: on a quarterback, especially Detroit, holy shit, I mean they

1249
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: got some serious offensive firepower. Yeah, there's a reason all

1250
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: the scouts in love with love us if you just

1251
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: if you go to a workout number one that kids

1252
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: just his his build, the size of the house, yeah,

1253
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: dies the size of us. But when he he throws

1254
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: a ball, it is a spectacle. You just watch him

1255
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 1: his YouTuber Twitter searching throwing in in drills and yeah,

1256
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: so he's gonna be Uh he's already Scott's already loved him,

1257
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: but he's once he gets to pro days and combine that,

1258
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself, does he become uh Josh

1259
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: Allen Lake willis right, who doesn't look most all his time.

1260
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: But I mean, like what els his bench tonight for

1261
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: Josh dobbs um Kyle Bowler for example, I got you know,

1262
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: Pro day on his knees throwing eight yards into a

1263
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: trash can, but looked more like a trash can when

1264
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: he got into the game. But yeah, it's there's a

1265
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: couple of teams that are just a quarterback away. And

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Speaker 1: did you agree, I mean you you live in like

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Speaker 1: do you think he'll end up going number two overall? Uh? Levice? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: or just a better way to say, at the second

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Speaker 1: quarterback on the board. Yeah, yeah, for sure, it's because

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Speaker 1: if it's the Bears number two overall they're not taking

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Speaker 1: and they might be the second pick um And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the rest of the quarterbacks. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that he will. He will end up going as

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Speaker 1: the second overall quarterback. And I'm really interested to see.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of interesting quarterback The next two years

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Speaker 1: is gonna be really fascinating with quarterbacks. You know, you

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Speaker 1: have the Jets. What are the Jets gonna do, like

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Speaker 1: Mike White, did they go after a free agent? Do

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Speaker 1: they draft for Niners or you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams that are like our quarterback away? What are

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Speaker 1: the what are the lines of what are the forty

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Speaker 1: Niners do? Now? It's like remember Lance? Like what happened?

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Speaker 1: So another off season of Trey Lance and uh in

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Speaker 1: a quarterback competition. But if Party takes them to the moon?

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Speaker 1: See it, Trey, this is uh Party's team now? And

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Speaker 1: where does Jimmy G? Like I think Jimmy G would

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Speaker 1: be a perfect fit for, you know, for the Jets,

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Speaker 1: Like if the if the Jets just had him this year, right,

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Speaker 1: it would be like they're like the Niners really good

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Speaker 1: defense and running game. And so yeah, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of it's gonna be a fascinating quarterback market to watch

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Speaker 1: in this offseason. Well, happy New Year, enjoy the games.

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Speaker 1: Have just a degenerative, all degenerate type weekends. This is

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Speaker 1: doesn't get much better. I mean I shouldn't like you.

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Speaker 1: I haven't done anything for a week now. I don't

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Speaker 1: plan on doing much moving forward for the next four

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Speaker 1: or five days. So well, let's uh, let's enjoy football

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Speaker 1: while we have because we're not that far away. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we only have so many games left right lad Saturday,

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Speaker 1: it's the last Saturday with college football and August, so

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Speaker 1: that as gives me. Um, so yeah, enjoy the games.

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Speaker 1: I think this both semifinals will be good. There's great

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Speaker 1: college football in NFL and all week um, and just

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Speaker 1: be if you're listening, be careful on the final two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Don't just blindly assume the team that needs to win

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Speaker 1: against the dead team is gonna cover. Uh Still, professional athletes,

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Speaker 1: NFL teams playing to coaches, playing for jobs, players playing

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Speaker 1: for jobs, players playing spoiler. Every year you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: look no further than Colts Jags. Last year Colts fifteen

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Speaker 1: point favorites and jacksonvill just winning it in they get

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Speaker 1: blown out blown their doors blown off, so yeah, be careful,

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Speaker 1: enjoy the games, Happy new to you, and uh everyone listening,

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Speaker 1: and let's catch some bets where stud You have a

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Speaker 1: good weekend, all right, brother you too, SAMP M S

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Speaker 1: S and the volume