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Speaker 6: Chronicles podcast and ship Boy Big Steeler once again. I'm

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Speaker 6: holding it down for my man m C eight, who's out,

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Speaker 6: but he will be back next week. I just got

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Speaker 6: confirmation on that prayers out there. All the prayers and

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Speaker 4: Going on with what we got a special guest today.

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Speaker 4: For one, I want to say much love to m

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Speaker 4: C eight, you know, sending him healing prayers, you know,

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Speaker 4: and hopefully he returns asap, sooner than later, because that's

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Speaker 4: the OG. So I'm just happy that you, you know,

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Speaker 4: you allowed me to come on here with special guests

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Speaker 6: Know, yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure got the

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Speaker 6: homie man, my homeboy man from Houston, Texas, or they

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Speaker 6: say it Screwston Texas, the homie to Low too low.

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Speaker 6: What's happening with your.

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Speaker 1: Dog man, big steal off top man. You know, I

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Speaker 1: want to let you know I appreciate you having me

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Speaker 1: home man MC eight. You will soon, man. You know

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of yours.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm from that era. We from that era, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, And man, get well soon.

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Speaker 5: Man, you know, we rocking with you. Were praying for you, man,

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Speaker 5: and come on through.

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Speaker 6: For sure. You know what The first thing I got

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Speaker 6: where you was on that bringing them on record. You

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Speaker 1: I co wrote it with r I p A Wall

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Speaker 5: We wrote were co wrote it and put it.

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Speaker 6: Down breaking news, breaking news because I always thought that

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, man, you know, And you know, at

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Speaker 6: was signedist star Faces label Face to Face. He was

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Speaker 6: And Face Mob and Face Mob Yeah and Face Mob.

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Speaker 6: How did you run in the star Face?

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Speaker 4: Was he recruiting you?

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Speaker 1: Na?

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Speaker 1: Man? R I P Big K. Big K was like

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Speaker 5: Block doing what I do, and like on the block

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Speaker 6: How it took place, you was around some heavy hitting dudes,

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Speaker 6: because all of them dudes did a lot of them,

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Speaker 6: especially in O. Joe and Joe had some ship going.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know Joe was bad. You know, Joe was a.

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Speaker 6: Bad boy, and Joe was a bad boy. Did you

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Speaker 6: ever get to work with Mike Dean back then?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I worked with Mike Dean. Mike Dean, That's my

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Speaker 4: Know, but had you heard of Jay Franks even in

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Speaker 5: Okay, not at all?

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Speaker 6: Funky yeah, Funky little niggacause that tripped me up when

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Speaker 6: Man. Oh man. So let me ask you this, what

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Speaker 5: I don't have no knowledge of that. They still ain't

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Speaker 6: You ain't gonna lie. You just knew he was getting

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Speaker 1: And then you know, you know, like certain environments, you know,

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Speaker 5: They was like they told our security.

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Speaker 6: Man, Like, yeah, I know, were rapp a lot. They

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think even I think I think even like

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Speaker 5: But it's funny. Man Luke, Uh Luke, Uncle Luke.

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Speaker 1: One time had had threw us a uh a concert

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Speaker 1: But you know that's the type stuff me and Face

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Speaker 5: But it was.

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Speaker 1: So when me and Malik got together, we had snuck off,

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Speaker 1: I really I really robed them. Do them do it

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Jamal might have been like from Philly

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Speaker 6: Yeah, them dudes definitely with your counterparts as far as

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Speaker 5: To you, not him personally, but like Big Chief m

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Speaker 1: main ones who was you know, the ones that was

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00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: ever trying.

442
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 4: To just relationship like because I knew Bushwick as well,

443
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 4: and Bushwick is probably one of the most intelligent, well

444
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 4: read people I've ever known or talked to. What was

445
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 4: what was that like with Bushwick man?

446
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 6: For real?

447
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: When I was like twelve and thirteen, anybody who was

448
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: trying to like guide me right or you know, getting

449
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 1: my business with me doing what I like to do,

450
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: I would like run from you or or tune you out.

451
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: So during that during that era, it was like when

452
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: he come around or whatever whatever, I was kind of like, you.

453
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 4: Know, but like.

454
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: As as time had passed, when I got older and

455
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: I used to bump into when he's kicking you know,

456
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: on a more older than rona note, it was it

457
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: was like a whole lot of respect and love man,

458
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: and you know, and me being able to remember him

459
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: playing that role in my life during then when I

460
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: was older now and more mature mentally, you know, it

461
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: was like it was a whole respecting and.

462
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 6: I know, you know you were a young dude, but

463
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 6: she was very much in the streets. Like you said,

464
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 6: you know, you was hopping out on people, you know,

465
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 6: giving people what they needed, you know, whether it was

466
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 6: some blow of weed or whatever. Right, And from what

467
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 6: I understand, correct me if I'm wrong, you still was

468
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 6: in the streets even at the height of your popularity

469
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 6: on Rap a Lot.

470
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you were.

471
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 6: Still out there. You're still out there on the blade.

472
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,959
Speaker 1: Celling slang because I was I was naive to the

473
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: blessing that the High Power had gave me. I was

474
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: naive to all that. So it was like, while I'm

475
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: out there, it'll be so many people like bro, scar face,

476
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: your brother, Bro, Like I just seen your video on beat,

477
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: I just seen you in the magazine.

478
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 5: Why is you out here?

479
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, the fuck that means like what

480
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: they got to do and anything like this, this is me,

481
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: this is what I do.

482
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 4: Let me let me ask you this to love, let

483
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 4: me ask you this. So so but I was, so

484
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 4: you still out in the trap. So when you signed

485
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 4: with Rap a Lot, I mean, did your life change

486
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 4: financially because I'm assuming that if you had. Probably if

487
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 4: your life changed with the money, then you probably wouldn't

488
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 4: have been out there. Maybe maybe not. But did things

489
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 4: change for you financially once you got a rap a lot.

490
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 5: Not overnight.

491
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: So it's like a process, bro, It's like you know,

492
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: want to you know how a lot of people man,

493
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: You know, I can't speak for no other artists.

494
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 5: I can only speak for myself.

495
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: So like I tell a lot of people, man, when

496
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: I explained it for me personally, all that talk about

497
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: Jay Prince wo he do to his artists and how

498
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: he mess over his artists From the knowledge out of

499
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: the gain and from what I have.

500
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 5: Seen, the rap game business is business.

501
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: So here it is if I go, if Big Steel

502
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: is out in the streets doing whatever he's doing, and

503
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: I believe in his potential, and I take, you know,

504
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: just hypothetically speaking one hundred two three hundred thousand of

505
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: my hard earned money and invested into Big Steel's potential.

506
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: If Big Stell don't blow or get me a return

507
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: on my investment.

508
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 5: I lose. But Big Stell is now Big Steal.

509
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: He has a career, he has a lane, he has

510
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: a platform, he has something that he can build off

511
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: of way greater and better than what it was before

512
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: I discovered him and invested into his potential. So as

513
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: time goes on, you know, it's like the process is

514
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: far as the roorty things and stuff. That's a process

515
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: that's you know, that takes the time that it takes.

516
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: But like doing the shows, getting paid from the shows

517
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: and all of those stuff, it was like it was cool,

518
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: but it's like, well, people don't be understanding. People were

519
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: confusing that even though rebel I was an independent national

520
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: label and you had access to the major radio stations

521
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: and the BT's and mtvs and all that old stuff,

522
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: we wouldn't artists.

523
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 5: Well i'mna speak for myself.

524
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't an artist that was gold platinum selling millions

525
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: of copies.

526
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 5: So it's like.

527
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: I'm still doing like shows and stuff based on you know,

528
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: the sales and the type of clubs and stuff that

529
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: we're doing. So yeah, but I mean it helped with

530
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: my score.

531
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 4: That you say you got cops and recop.

532
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 5: Fun yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

533
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 6: So you didn't get into advanced when you first time

534
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 6: a rap a lot. You didn't get like thirty forty

535
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 6: thousand dollars when you first signed.

536
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 5: Nah, I didn't get the advancement.

537
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how idea. Sometimes with the independent labels, they

538
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 6: don't get those, you know, the bigger advances. But rap

539
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 6: a Lot, you know that rap a Lot was one

540
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 6: of the more successful independent rap labels, I would say,

541
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 6: especially during that time.

542
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 5: You know, they was like I can only speak for

543
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 5: myself now.

544
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: The other artistists being the age that they were and

545
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: the knowledge they may have had, they made have negotiated

546
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: and got what it is that they suposed to got.

547
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: But me being the age that I was and everything

548
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: it probably took, and the investment that it probably took,

549
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: and to just make all that happen, I mean, I

550
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't expected nothing. And at the end of the day,

551
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: even when I look back on it now, it's still

552
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: all love and respect because if it wasn't never for that,

553
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, man, I wouldn't be even sitting there talking

554
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: to y'all.

555
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 6: Know you got the pre attitude about it, for sure.

556
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 6: I know it's a lot of people to get bitter

557
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 6: and always tell him, man, you can't get bitter about

558
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 6: the fashion.

559
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 4: I mean the fact that you educated yourself to the

560
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 4: business because you're right, if you know, if you're if

561
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 4: he's spending. If the label independent label spend a couple

562
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 4: hundred thousand and you only selling a couple hundred thousand,

563
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you got videos, you

564
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 4: got so much shit that got to be paid for

565
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 4: since you still got to recoop before you can make

566
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 4: some money, you know what I mean.

567
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, and this, and and and this ain't going

568
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: on in today's era where you can do so much. Yeah,

569
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: for sure, cut house cutting with all the stuff that's now.

570
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 5: This is back in the game.

571
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: Where producers is probably still charge of ten twenty bands

572
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: of big studio time, probably still out. You know what

573
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, being able to, being able to you know,

574
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: you know on the slick do the payola things with

575
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: the major label, with the major radio stations and stuff.

576
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had hard costs. You have to pay for posters, stickers, liars, CDs.

577
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: All of that, all that everything, everything cee thes.

578
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 6: You gotta remember corse back then you put out a record,

579
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 6: you had finally you had to put press up, your

580
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 6: promotional final you had, you had CDs. It was a

581
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 6: lot of stuff you might miss around even if it's independent.

582
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 6: Hell y'all release a project you walked fifteen thousand dollars

583
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 6: before you even see a dollar back.

584
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: And then if you have a business sense and you

585
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: know anything about money, I ain't at this in three

586
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, four hundred thousand in you to make four

587
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: hundred thousand back.

588
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 6: Mm hmm. Yeah. So it's like, man, you know what

589
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 6: was funny too low? You got a better mindset to

590
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 6: some of these grown folks.

591
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: Man, man, because you know with me, man, it's all

592
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: about what makes sense and real. It is real, fake,

593
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: it's fake. It's no gray area. So at the end

594
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: of the day, man, you know when somebody is real,

595
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: it's real, and I only respect real.

596
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 5: Man.

597
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: What time makes Was there a time back then?

598
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: Right?

599
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: So you walk in a fine line. Right, So you're

600
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 4: a kid, you're coming into young manhood. Shit, you got

601
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 4: a record deal before you probably even hit puberty. Really,

602
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: so you got this rap career, You got the streets.

603
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: You know, you have all these things happening. You know,

604
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: was there a moment where you was like, damn, like

605
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: I might have made it a little bit, you know

606
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, where you wanted to leave the streets

607
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 4: and really lean into the music.

608
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: So waves later down the line waves later down the line,

609
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: because it was like I was still at the age

610
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: and I was still not eve like I said to

611
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: the blessing and the opportunity that I had. So by

612
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: not being and once again I'm not bragging, I'm not

613
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: going fine.

614
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 5: This ain't nothing that I'm proud of.

615
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: But by just being me, what I was caught up

616
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: in was just an addiction. It was just something that

617
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't shake, couldn't break, didn't understand, didn't even care

618
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: to understand. So it's like when the situation that took

619
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: place that you know played a role and and me

620
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: getting off rap a lot and all that old stuff,

621
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: it was still so many later years later down the line,

622
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: like during incarceration and doing talking to other people, like, bro,

623
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: you had this, this and this going while you was this,

624
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: this and this, and it was like I still wasn't

625
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: able to understand or comprehend what I'm being told or

626
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: the situation that I'm in because it was like I'm

627
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: still living life, how I enjoyed it, Like I still

628
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: live in life, how I've seen it, How isn't it

629
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: So it's like it's more it started hitting more like

630
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: probably ten years down the line or twelve years now

631
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: on the line with laying up in them bunks and

632
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: laying up in themselves like damn, like you know, like

633
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: really really hearing from people in a way because like

634
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: like I said, I can't from an era where it.

635
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 5: Wasn't it wasn't no internet.

636
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: So I'm not able to go read blogs and all

637
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: of those stuff. So it's like me sitting in them

638
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: bunks and being around people from different states and different

639
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: places like really letting me know like the impact that

640
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: I had on a part of a rap history and

641
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: all this old stuff at that time, to where then

642
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: I started looking back, like damn.

643
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 6: You messed around to make yourself a little young legend. Hey,

644
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 6: I want to touch on that real quick. How old

645
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 6: were you when you first started going to jail.

646
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: About fourteen fifteen, Yeah, starting with the Juwie stuffs, and

647
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: then you know, like officially like back after the Juvie stuffs,

648
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: when I got old enough to you know, hit the

649
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: big joints like eighteen nineteen, and you know, I've never

650
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: been able to keep them cups off.

651
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 6: You have been in jail most of your kind of

652
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 6: teenage years, right, and you just now really getting to

653
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 6: the point where you've been free for an extended period

654
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 6: of time.

655
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, like like from from nineteen to now, I

656
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: ain't really just been free like a full of the

657
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: six months.

658
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 4: Let me ask you too, low so it'd be like,

659
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: and I'm sure you know, possibly you may have thought

660
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 4: about these things, especially when you in that in that cell,

661
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 4: on that bump. Have you like tried to have you

662
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: ever peeled back the layers and went back through your life,

663
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: your career in and out of jail, in your rap career,

664
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 4: have you have you pinpointed like why you kept you

665
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like, damn, what am I doing?

666
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: Why can't I shape this? Why do I keep doing it?

667
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: Where do you think that came from? Yeah?

668
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, most differently, Yeah yeah yeah, most definitely.

669
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: Well it's unjustifiable, and it's like I don't know, I

670
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: guess you'll probably have to be in a person's shoes

671
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: like this. But like I say, it was already something

672
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: in me. So I think once I got exposed to

673
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: a certain lifestyle and already had that mentality already built

674
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: up and that passion already built.

675
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 5: Up, it's like what I go to jail behind?

676
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: Man, It's like I don't wish jail on nobody, and

677
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: like I say, I don't glorify it. But just my

678
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: way of thinking was like the way I feel like

679
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: life is supposed to be lived and the things that

680
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: you supposed to be able to enjoy and attaining life,

681
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: I didn't see it through the means of working.

682
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 5: So for some reason, somehow, some way, whoever.

683
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: Was in control, whoever's in power, it's like the game

684
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: has always been something that just when I get in it,

685
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: I had success, and that way of living and and

686
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: and the things that I want to attain has always

687
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: came that way.

688
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 5: So it was like it only made sense to me.

689
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: It was like, so it's like it's one thing for

690
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: people I feel like that to do a lot of

691
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: jail time or whatever behind dumb stuff. But in my mind,

692
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: me chasing the bag, me getting it on my own,

693
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: I mean I have to take I don't. I don't mind.

694
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: I didn't at one point. I didn't at one point.

695
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you can say you was almost you was

696
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 6: almost man to a point, kind of institutionalize a little bit.

697
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't really like using the word in intuitionalized because

698
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: in the tuitionalization to me is like people who get

699
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: caught up in that jail mentality. I was more like

700
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: just sitting my ways feeling like, you know, in my mind,

701
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm not forcing nobody to do the things that they're doing.

702
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, to the hustle.

703
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 6: He was addicted to the hustle.

704
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like the like the liquor stores, the cigarette

705
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: dealers and all them old people, the doctors that that

706
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: has licenses to prescribe that they prescride.

707
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 5: It's like, I'm not doing I'm.

708
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: Not putting guns to heads to the people who are

709
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: providing the lifestyle.

710
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 5: That I want to live and do what I want

711
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 5: to do.

712
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: So it's like at the end of the day, like damn, man,

713
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: like go arrest the rapists, man, go do the all.

714
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 4: Just doing the fly trying to what's the worst thing

715
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: man that you didn't you know, did some stretches. What's

716
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 4: the worst thing that you saw in jail?

717
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 5: Good question, man, I don't even know where it started.

718
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: Man off top I think, and I don't even want

719
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: to say it's the worst thing, but I guess you know, Uh,

720
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: a man getting raped, I think would probably always top

721
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: to that will always be the most I don't think

722
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: a man being.

723
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 4: Raped damn what happened?

724
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it don't be intentionally, it just be like,

725
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, you be minded. You know, you just be

726
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: probably walking to your cell or walking down run and

727
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: however whatever way of person presented theyself or whatever I

728
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: lead to it to just be like.

729
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 5: Damn many.

730
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: But you know it's you know, I don't know about

731
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: the prettists around the world, but down in Texas, you know,

732
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't they didn't put a whole bunch

733
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: of new protocols and things to kind of I guess,

734
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: get it better. But when I was like.

735
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 5: Eighteen nineteen young going down there, it was still really

736
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 5: messed up.

737
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: Man. And outside of that, I don't really think there's

738
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: too much that you witness and that it did you.

739
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 4: Have to run a bunch of phades in there because

740
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: you work too low with people or they just gave

741
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 4: you that respect.

742
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, the two load thing is one

743
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: thing then you have like you know, it just be

744
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: all see man, because like you gotta understand, man, you

745
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: end up dinning with night. If you dealing with one person,

746
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: you still dealing with like four five different people because

747
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: it's like so many different emotions and and and and

748
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: and depression is running. So you never know, like you

749
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: be hooping with somebody you've been cool with forever, but

750
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: they money ain't hit they books or a chick or

751
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: guard chick that they feeling might they notice you feeling you?

752
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: And just anything, man, phades come from just just.

753
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 5: Drive waking up man mad about whatever.

754
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: You mad about it man, and you just want to

755
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: take take your anger and your pain and frustration out

756
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: on something.

757
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 5: So your phase is coming from.

758
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 4: A knocked down one of them guards.

759
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: So so you back, Nah, I ain't never did that, man,

760
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: know I didn't been in situations, but it's just nah, you.

761
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 6: Know what the fun that irony about the eels Man's

762
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 6: Houston was very much a hustle town. Still there was

763
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 6: a hustle time, but especially back then the nineties. Man.

764
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 6: You know that's how your ceo, Man, your ceo was

765
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 6: one of the right.

766
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 4: There by the water town. You know what I'm saying.

767
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 4: You got war ass, you got uh you know what

768
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 4: I'm saying, You got them Port City so everything cheap

769
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 4: down there.

770
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 6: Yeah for real. Did you ever get a chance to

771
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 6: run with Pimp c any?

772
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, one of the times I got out.

773
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: You know you know, I bumped into pimp, you know,

774
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: but you know r I p pimp man, you know,

775
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: Temper is pimp.

776
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 5: So it's like.

777
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: My my mind mind kind of like what I what

778
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: would I choose to like rock with and deal with

779
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: is like I think cut different.

780
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

781
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: So you know, it's like I don't get caught up

782
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: on you know, the industry stuff, the rap fame and

783
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: who people are, nothing like that, like, you know, but

784
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: it's like it's just certain type of people that I

785
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: jaal with and some that I'm cool with just dad

786
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: and you know, telling them, you know.

787
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 6: Let's talk about a little bit because let's keep it real, man.

788
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 6: We don't have to put on gamest chronicles. There's a

789
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 6: lot of whole ass niggas in the rap game. There's

790
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 6: a lot of phony balloonas. It's a lot of whole

791
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 6: ass niggas in the rap game, and some of them,

792
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 6: once you meet them there will make you want to

793
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 6: hurt their ass.

794
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I think, man, I didn't. I

795
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: didn't develop a mentality. And it's been around so much

796
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: from the streets to incarceration because see when incarceration it's

797
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: like safer answers you might be in a dorm probably

798
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: about the size of your studio with like three hundred dudes.

799
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 5: All walks of life.

800
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: And you have to navigate all these different walks of life,

801
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: all these different personalities, all these different attitudes, man. And

802
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: it's like if you know how to conduct yourself and

803
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: carry yourself, man, it's like you just know how. It's

804
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: like I damn make a shak a person's hand and

805
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: read their palem man. It's like I have like a

806
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: sixth sense for like energies and just spirits. So it's

807
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: like off top, man, I can probably like just off

808
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: two three seconds, know if I care to say two

809
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: words to you ever, and then I apply that to

810
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: just the way I move man.

811
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 5: So it's like a lot of people, no matter who

812
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 5: they are, what they.

813
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: Got going on, if it's just something about them that

814
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: I just don't then I'm cool with just you know, ay,

815
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: you know who you is, what you do, that's you.

816
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 5: Hey, hey man, hey I eight. But let me move on.

817
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: And do what I'm doing because I just prefer to

818
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: avoid conflict to the to my ability, because I know

819
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: how I'm a react, I know what stuff lead to

820
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: on my end.

821
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 6: You definitely got the personality to make up for this

822
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 6: rap shit man. And I think you need to really

823
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 6: keep seeing that. Man. Is I still think you got

824
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 6: some incredible stories to tell my brother.

825
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, at the end of the day,

826
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: it's just it's nothing new under the sun. There's nothing

827
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: that's going on now. There wasn't going on, you know,

828
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: like a lot of people like to speak on, like

829
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: especially older folks that's caught up in religion and stuff

830
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: like these the ends of times and this and this

831
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: is going on. Ain't nothing going on, man, That wasn't

832
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: going on in the beginning of time, from when the

833
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: Bible even first started. So it's just pretty much just

834
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: it's just pretty much just comfortable.

835
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 2: I think we kind of we kind of missed it.

836
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 4: So what contributed to the dissolution of your your situation

837
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 4: with rap a lot? What happened with that?

838
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: I was around still, like around like thirteen fourteen, and

839
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: there was a dude who was hanging around rapp a

840
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: lozed studios. So by him already being in that environment, I.

841
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 5: Felt he was official.

842
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: So he approached me and he let me know that

843
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: I think at the time he said he was managing

844
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: nip managing screw or whatever, and he was like, he

845
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: got ahold of my contracts and I could like, he

846
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: can get me a better contract. So on my mind,

847
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I I ain't you know, I ain't think

848
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: nothing of it. And he went along with his move,

849
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: went along with his plate, and like I say, I'm

850
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: still naive.

851
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 5: I still don't really have an understanding of what's going on.

852
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: All I know is this dude said that he can

853
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: get me a better contract and this and this is

854
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: going on. So once he got it in to the courts,

855
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting calls. You know, I'm talking to face,

856
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking to chief and them, and they like, what's

857
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: going on. I'm like, I don't know, dude, say you

858
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: can give me a better contract. So as time started

859
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: going on, it's like this is like facing them like

860
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: this is my real family.

861
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 5: These is like my real people. I don't know, dude,

862
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 5: but he offered me, you know, a situation. So when

863
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 5: you were a.

864
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 6: Young dude at the time, so it seemed like he

865
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 6: came in put a monkey wrench in the stuff you

866
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 6: had going on with rap a lot.

867
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So at some point when I started realizing like

868
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: what he had going on was turning me against or

869
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: putting me in a situation with the people I love

870
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: and the people that's my family.

871
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 5: It was like, man, it ain't even that serious.

872
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: Man Like, whatever that contract is, man, whatever that situation is.

873
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 5: Man Like, this ain't feeling right no more so.

874
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: And then the only way to get out of it

875
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: was to settle. So, you know, we came over with

876
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: a settlement, and that was that.

877
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 6: Then you wasn't you? You was free of rap A

878
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 6: lot you wasn't with.

879
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: Was there any other labels that pursued you?

880
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I had, man, The dude had

881
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: me fly to Priority Records. Priority took me around l A,

882
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: had me kicking it with Cube and stuff. They had

883
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: like a million dollar deal for me. But when I

884
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: look back on it now, at the time Priority was

885
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: trying to give me that million dollar deal, Priority was

886
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: the distributor, so I guess and all.

887
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 5: That you know, blackballed that.

888
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: And then it was like, well, I mean, and then,

889
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: like I said, by Rap never being my passion or

890
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: nothing I ever even cared for, and me still being

891
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: naive even.

892
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 5: To the situation that I was in.

893
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: When that slowed up, I went back to my passion

894
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: like back in the streets man, and.

895
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 5: You know, all that was cool, it was an experience,

896
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 5: but they that's what it is.

897
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 6: So you you know what's crazy about that, man, It's

898
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 6: always somebody in the background that don't know nothing to

899
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 6: think they can do something better for you than what

900
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 6: you got going on. And they usually just come in

901
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 6: and divide and conquer because they trying to get what

902
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 6: they can get out of something. And I guarantee you

903
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 6: that he probably heard that Priority record was interested in

904
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 6: you and something because I'm pretty sure say and them

905
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 6: that was their next step, which was probably take you

906
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 6: to a major or something like that.

907
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: Probably not take me to a major, but I would

908
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: have been able to probably like fully push that Funky

909
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: Little Brother album and get some more singles off of that.

910
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: That would have really like took my you know, my

911
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 1: career that and and and at that time to other levels.

912
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: But then again, maybe if I would have had like

913
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: to support that like probably the bow Wows or whatever

914
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: them had and really like like I like if rap

915
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: was really my theme and what he was trying to do.

916
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: And at the time, well, I'm like like number twenty

917
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: five on Billboard charts and still like moving the units

918
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: that I was moving, Like probably I could have continued

919
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: to go with that and get a deal, but that

920
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: just you know, like I said.

921
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure, but check this out. Though too low.

922
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 6: At the time, you know, Game Slip released his first album,

923
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 6: you know, through Rapt independently. He sold enough records to

924
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 6: where the next one, the next few of them came

925
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 6: out through Priority. Slash Rap a Lot. You know, Priority

926
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 6: put the battery in his back. That kind of helped

927
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 6: him to sell a little bit more records. I think

928
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 6: you was on your way to that point, man, And

929
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 6: it's just unfortunate because she was a real young.

930
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 4: Dude back door play. Once I'm here, it sounded like

931
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 4: it was somebody that was probably around Jay.

932
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 2: Because how you gonna take it?

933
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 4: You to Priority? When Rap a Lot being distributed by Priority,

934
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 4: That's that's exactly.

935
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 6: Yeah. Now you feel what I'm saying, Cork to where

936
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 6: he's like he don't heard some information or this day next,

937
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 6: let me go beat them to it. You feel what

938
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 6: I'm saying. That type of ship that's where niggas is

939
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 6: raggedy is hell.

940
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, you know, into my knowledge.

941
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 6: You cut off bro, and hear you too. Low. We

942
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 6: can't hear you, bro, and hear you.

943
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 4: I can't hear you, bro.

944
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 6: We can't hear you. Hold on, ladies and gentlemen too,

945
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 6: low thing, don't cut off. Let me text the mode

946
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 6: on because I don't think he's still talking.

947
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: He's still talking, you know, and like young mom, you know,

948
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: like young mouth for.

949
00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 4: We just looking.

950
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 6: We just we can hear you. We couldn't hear you

951
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 6: for a good minute. Bro.

952
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay.

953
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: I say, to my knowledge, I think the only people

954
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: that really had like independent deals through rap a Lot

955
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: was like d from Trinity Goard to Cartel. I think

956
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: maybe minutes planning them, uh C. J Macnum maybe had.

957
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 1: And then you had people like you know, J. Prince

958
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: homeboys like do we have like the underground records and

959
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But outside of any other artists, I

960
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: think Face got this opportunity with the face to face,

961
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: but outside of that, I ain't too I ain't too

962
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: familiar with any other artists like having independent deals through

963
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: rap a Lot and and still getting like major distribution

964
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: with nobody.

965
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know gangs nipp was going through priority in

966
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 6: what they usually do though too. With that right there,

967
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 6: let's say you signed me in course label, right, and

968
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 6: we're doing our thing with you. We put out an

969
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 6: independent project out the major label that's distributing it. Like,

970
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 6: we might not be going through priority with Shoot, but

971
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 6: we may be going through them with Games from Net. Right.

972
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 6: We may be taking you through City Hall, the Southwest

973
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 6: Wholesales selector Hits or whatever. Right. What happened is you

974
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 6: get to sell in a certain amount of units priority

975
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 6: to come in and say, hey, we want to release

976
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 6: re release this album on a national scale. We're gonna

977
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 6: put a budget behind it. We're gonna put some money

978
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 6: in his pocket. You know, Jake get his money, You

979
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 6: get your money. Next thing, you know, you know you're

980
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 6: driving limousines and doing bigger tours, you feel me. Oh yeah,

981
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 6: So it's one of them type of situations.

982
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you know if Nip was able to negotiate

983
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: and get that opportunity, yeah, that was a power move.

984
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 6: Yeah you know what I'm saying, Well, it just wasn't

985
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 6: if you know, you had the ghetto boys, that really was,

986
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 6: you know, doing it big. You know, rap a lot, man.

987
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 6: I gotta really take my hasts off to them. They

988
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 6: probably one of my favorite independent labels of all time,

989
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 6: just the way they did stuff, you know, and Jake

990
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 6: just a dude that demand respect. You never heard nobody

991
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 6: to recently talking crazy about that man.

992
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then the people that recently came

993
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: about it. You know, they really do it in a

994
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: way because click like I say, clickbait the internet and

995
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: probably they tied to something way more bigger than you

996
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: know we can you know, like CIA's and all of

997
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: those stuff. So it's like, trust me, when you've been

998
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: in the game that long and been able to manage

999
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: to go untouched regardless of all wene seen the diddies

1000
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 1: fall the you know what I'm saying, like people who

1001
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: really add power and everything.

1002
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 5: And j Prince to this day.

1003
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: Has still been you know, like the you know, the

1004
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: all the rumors or whatever that's been said, but at

1005
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: the end of the day has still been untouched. And

1006
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: the people that have tried to get their views up

1007
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: and they clickbait up speaking on what they've been speaking on.

1008
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, man, if you know you

1009
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: know and you know the real don't be believing it all.

1010
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 5: Just be entertainer man, you.

1011
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 6: Know, speaking of Diddy man, mean you was having a

1012
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 6: conversation earlier. Man, it's a whole bunch of people getting

1013
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 6: through in the grease right now.

1014
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 4: Man, Oh, they got they got a damn hot line

1015
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 4: that people can call, you know, if you want to join.

1016
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 4: I guess it's a class action lawsuit, you know. So

1017
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 4: I thought about calling the motherfucker just saying, Nigga rubbed

1018
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 4: up against me and the club. And you know, ship

1019
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 4: five million, you know what I mean? Like they got

1020
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 4: a hotline. B Like, it's it's crazy. It's a free

1021
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 4: fall now.

1022
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: But you know, it's levels to this ship, man. And

1023
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: you know when you get to them levels and you

1024
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: get to being connected that type of power and stuff,

1025
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: for one, if you wanted them people that's caught up

1026
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: in the race thing. You know, your skin is your man,

1027
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: and you being that color man and having the type

1028
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: of power and stuff that you had once you go

1029
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: to feeling yourself too much and forgetting that, Yeah, you

1030
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: are the color that you are, but you are able

1031
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: to bring to the table what you are. So this

1032
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: is the reason why you having this leadway and being

1033
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: able to pull what you pulled.

1034
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 5: But when you go to you know.

1035
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: Forgetting that and and and breaking them buns them people

1036
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: that that we don't never year about or never year about.

1037
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: I never know, snatch the rub from abundane.

1038
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 4: You feel you feel like, you know, when it comes

1039
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 4: to our black moguls, it's more about I mean, it's racism,

1040
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 4: but it's also placism staying in your place. Do you

1041
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 4: feel like yeah, do you feel like that there's often

1042
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 4: a witch hunt for the moguls, I mean from Bill

1043
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 4: Cosby the Diddy to I mean, it's a it's a

1044
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 4: slew of them or do you think that you know

1045
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 4: they do it to themselves?

1046
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, both. It's definitely wish your skin is your sining.

1047
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: You know, it would never designed for us to be

1048
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: having it and doing it the way that you know

1049
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: a lot of us been doing it. But then when

1050
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: you look at the way that they crash out, bro,

1051
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: it don't be nothing at the end of the day

1052
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: where even if we was fans of you, are respecting you,

1053
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: that we could sit back and be like, damn man,

1054
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: dudey they just railroad dude like it be shipped where

1055
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: we be like that's good for that nigga ass bro,

1056
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: like you's stupid as fuck man like like that like

1057
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: that the the the freakiness.

1058
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 5: Bro, I'm a freaking dude.

1059
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: Them levels of freakiness, man, to where you jeopardizing and

1060
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: fucking off damn that being a billionaire and everything that

1061
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: you established at this point, like the people that you've

1062
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: been able to, like keep in the clause about the

1063
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: people that you done bumped off and all that.

1064
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 4: So you're saying you don't need a thousand bottles, You

1065
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 4: don't need a thousand bottles of baby baby oil, too low,

1066
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 4: don't need the baby oil.

1067
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't need a

1068
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 5: thousand bottles of baby oil.

1069
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: And I definitely definitely ever ever ever this lifetime, next

1070
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: lifetime and nothing need no dudes exit.

1071
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 6: Hey, you know what I'm gonna tell you all something

1072
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 6: I know about that that liquor industry all too well. Man,

1073
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 6: The liquor industry is one of the probably the most

1074
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 6: corrupt industries outside of music. It's a lot of stuff

1075
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 6: that goes on the liquor industry. Dous he over that

1076
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 6: company that he was messing with, Man, they was paying

1077
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 6: him sixty five million dollars a year just to be

1078
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 6: kind of like a marketing guy.

1079
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you try to sow on people brot going

1080
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 1: against the grain instead of just shutting up and taking

1081
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: his sixty five million.

1082
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 6: And they start thinking he owns something. No, dudes, you

1083
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 6: don't own nothing. You an employ it. He employed. When

1084
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 6: he starts talking all that ship, that's when all this

1085
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 6: stuff started coming out.

1086
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 4: Okay, I think Cassie, you know, I think if he

1087
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 4: had a went ahead and paid Cassie, you know, and

1088
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 4: it seemed like he was playing with her because he

1089
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 4: knew that ship was coming. He knew that was coming.

1090
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 6: She just wanted to She just wanted ten million dollars.

1091
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 6: I think she told him.

1092
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 5: And been on the way.

1093
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know that the cassies, to me, it's

1094
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: like a tear drop in the ocean. Man, that's like

1095
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: a man, because I don't feel like Cassie could have

1096
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: no more of an impact than the rumors of him

1097
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: getting his wife bumped off, getting Biggie bumped off. But

1098
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: the women that it came in front and said, man,

1099
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: they personally know that he was the one that did

1100
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: what he did. But Shine took the fall like os

1101
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: was real major things. Man, that if he was able

1102
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: to keep swepting on the rug and get away with

1103
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: that cast.

1104
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 5: But that Nuquor company.

1105
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 4: Type of In my opinion, all that other ship had

1106
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 4: already been swirling, all that shit all been said for years.

1107
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 4: But the Caskie shit with the tape, that's what made

1108
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 4: it real, you know what I mean. When somebody actually

1109
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 4: came and said, no, this is what he's about, this

1110
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 4: is what he do, matter of fact, I can show you.

1111
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 4: Then it made everything else that could have been in doubt.

1112
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 4: Now it starts putting it like with them, I don't know,

1113
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because you lied about this

1114
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 4: Cassi shit, but then she didn't expose you, you know,

1115
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 4: so I think it casted doubt on everything that's already

1116
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: been swirling around because all the biggie shit, the ship

1117
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 4: with Kim, you know, all them rumors been around forever.

1118
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing a secret man, everybody he ain't especially when

1119
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: you at the level of man. Everybody always know what's

1120
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: going on. Man. So the close the disclosers that been signed,

1121
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: and the and the and the hush moneies and all

1122
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: of those stuff. Man, it's always just been like on

1123
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: some but when you get out of line and go

1124
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: to fill in yourself too much, just no, row a,

1125
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna show you who.

1126
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 5: It's crazy because.

1127
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 4: The social media ara makes it easy, you know, because

1128
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 4: you know, we this is.

1129
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: This is exposed culture.

1130
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 4: You know back in the day, like we know, it

1131
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 4: was all kind of crazy shit going on in Hollywood

1132
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 4: back in the day, but it wasn't social media. See

1133
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 4: now with social media, people are somewhat incentivized to expose

1134
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 4: because now they get they ten minutes of fame. You know,

1135
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 4: you got platforms that will pay you for information and

1136
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 4: all of that shit. And the platforms don't care who

1137
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 4: they hurt. They don't care. They just want the clicks.

1138
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 4: Everybody just want the attention monetization. So social media has

1139
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 4: incentivized motherfuckers just to be like fuck going to the

1140
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 4: grade with anything. I'm finna give my fame and my

1141
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 4: tips now.

1142
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah again.

1143
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 6: Well, what we're seeing right now, you know, I'm pretty

1144
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 6: sure it corks. You versed in a little bit, y'all,

1145
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 6: versed in Greek mythology, you know it was icorous flew

1146
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 6: too close to the sign and lost his wings, right.

1147
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 6: I think that's what we're seeing with puff right now. Man.

1148
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 6: I think that people start getting the misconception man when,

1149
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 6: especially when they get away with a few things and

1150
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 6: they getting these massive amounts of money and hanging around

1151
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 6: and that's kind of like one of the perils of

1152
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 6: hanging around fuck niggas too. Well, you're around fuck niggas

1153
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 6: that don't keep you grounded. They won't tell you.

1154
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 4: People with that that that megalo mania, that ego like that.

1155
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 4: You know, it's hard because they pay everybody around. Everybody

1156
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 4: around them depends on them, and they not gonna keep

1157
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 4: independent thinkers around them, you know what I'm saying, because

1158
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 4: they become a threat.

1159
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I keep I'm gonna tell y'all. I think

1160
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 6: one of the keys to my success was as I

1161
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 6: keep people keep it real with me around me, court me,

1162
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 6: and you don't have conversations where you had called me

1163
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 6: and say, oh gee, I think what you did, my thigga?

1164
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 6: You know you did like this. You need to hear

1165
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 6: that stuff. If you gonna be successful, Bro, you need

1166
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 6: to have somebody wrong.

1167
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 4: But you got to be a real nigga too to

1168
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 4: be receptral to that. You know, like these niggas be weird.

1169
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 4: They just just because a nigga got money don't make

1170
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 4: it real. A lot of these niggas was already weird.

1171
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 4: Those and they just became rich, weirdose and the money

1172
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 4: just highlighted who they really was, you know what I'm saying, So.

1173
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 6: Well, that's all money does, Bro. Money only allows you

1174
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 6: to become see a lot of these Remember when we

1175
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 6: saw Knights Humble Puffy he was talking about that's because

1176
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 6: he ain't had no money once he started getting the

1177
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 6: brig you thinking about a dog. These people was saying,

1178
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 6: this man sixty five million dollars a year dog just

1179
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 6: to push their liquor. That's a lot of bread, Bro,

1180
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 6: And he and he was making you know what.

1181
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 4: And the killing part about it is, you know, I

1182
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 4: mean we in a different day in time. You know

1183
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 4: this this twenty four and if the nigga wanted to

1184
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 4: be with boys or do if he's bisexual, gay, whatever

1185
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 4: the case may be, he probably would have even went

1186
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 4: even further. I hate to say it, but it's the truth.

1187
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 4: If he had a came out as a gay man

1188
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 4: or bisexual man, it probably just would have furthered his

1189
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 4: business because they that community runs Hollywood and runs business anyway.

1190
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 4: So the fact that he was doing all this weird,

1191
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 4: crazy shit and hiding and all of that, that's really

1192
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 4: what all that shit come back to is a nigga

1193
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 4: not really wanting to confront his reality, you know what

1194
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And it's like, dog, you could have just

1195
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 4: lived your truth, nigga and probably got even richer, you

1196
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like that's crazy. Yeah, for sure, it.

1197
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 6: Ain't even more money, man, maybe even more money like

1198
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 6: he said, you know what, and this when you think

1199
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 6: about it, man, all of our black millionaires, Jay Prince

1200
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 6: is the only one that ain't got quipped. They got

1201
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 6: irv Gotti in them cats. They knocked him down the

1202
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 6: pig and it turned out to be felonious, but they

1203
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 6: still took all their money. See, Puffy is gonna lose,

1204
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 6: lose situation even if he beats this. He is going

1205
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 6: to be when this is over. And I'm gonna tell

1206
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 6: you what they're doing. I'm gonna tell you what they're

1207
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 6: doing off court. You know they putting They got him

1208
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 6: on the whoop the pole. Now remember back and stay there,

1209
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 6: take the big bucker. Put him on the winter pole.

1210
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 6: Buck breaking what they're doing. You know, Puffy got that

1211
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 6: you see in this hairline starting to get pushed back,

1212
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 6: the hairline then pushed back. He got to do it

1213
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 6: every day, the color of his ship formed the colors mustache.

1214
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 6: So when we do see Puffy again, he gonna be

1215
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 6: an old looking ass man. He gonna look like he

1216
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 6: brought it down in jail. He gonna look And that's

1217
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 6: what they do to us.

1218
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 4: Bro the I'm gonna tell you just me that I

1219
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 4: take umbrage with is now.

1220
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 2: I will say, I mean, he hasn't had his day

1221
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: in court.

1222
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 4: We all are guessing. You know, he ain't. He's guilty

1223
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 4: to proving innocent. You know what I'm saying basically, right,

1224
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 4: I know he's supposed to be innocent and to proven guilty,

1225
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 4: but we understand that's a different legal system for us.

1226
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 4: But but but this is what I exactly what I

1227
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 4: was gonna say. I just hate the lynch, my mentality

1228
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 4: and if you look at it. And I don't mean

1229
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 4: to be hypercritical with us, with our culture, but sometime

1230
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 4: we got to have their hard conversations the media blog sites.

1231
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 4: It's like us, we do it even we go even harder.

1232
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 4: We go harder than TMZ, we go harder than than

1233
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 4: than you know, CNN or whatever. It's like we, you know,

1234
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 4: persecute ourselves even more so in the media all you

1235
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 4: see is the lynch my mentality. All puffy is puffy,

1236
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 4: laughing jokes, you know, and all of that. And that's

1237
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 4: the part I don't really get down with because as

1238
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 4: the Bible says that he was not seeing cash the

1239
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 4: first song. You may not have done what he done.

1240
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 2: But sit down, nigga, you didn't done some bullshit yourself,

1241
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: so have a seat.

1242
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1243
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 6: Bro, I'm gonna tell you of something. You know, our

1244
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 6: kids was raised the suburbs. They wouldn't raise nothing like

1245
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 6: we was right. So I was talking to my kids

1246
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 6: the other week, me and Glasses. I had him on

1247
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 6: speaker and my daughter was like, I can't believe you're

1248
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 6: taking his side. I said, I'm not taking this side.

1249
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 6: But the man ain't even had this trial yet. We

1250
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 6: got to see, we don't know what part of this

1251
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 6: is bullshit and was not because the motherfucker, motherfucker being

1252
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 6: freaking ain't really a crime. He kills and people's ship

1253
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 6: dog and doing all this stuff, and that's a whole

1254
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 6: nother story. Right. If he has underage women in there,

1255
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 6: that's this. But you know, let the man go to trial.

1256
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. This social media era is not

1257
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 4: like they free thinkers. Everybody just follows the blogs. They

1258
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 4: just follow as trending rather it's true or not. And again,

1259
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 4: like I say, man, I mind my business. You know,

1260
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 4: I understand there's victims and there's families, but you know,

1261
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 4: I can't get it and involved with the and people

1262
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 4: haven't told me, they've asked me. But what if it

1263
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 4: was your daughter? What if it was your people? I'm like, yeah,

1264
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 4: well we have to. I have to deal with it accordingly,

1265
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But even still, yeah, man.

1266
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you something. I don't fit with Killy

1267
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 6: at all, no more, especially in the light of the

1268
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 6: stuff I don't found out was going on with his

1269
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 6: daughters and stuff like that. Right I was talking about

1270
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 6: guy Men Robinson is doing that documentary, you know, and

1271
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 6: his daughter. But I would like to think, man, like

1272
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 6: I said, they don't got a whole bunch of us

1273
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,479
Speaker 6: bumped off dog. And one thing has taught me court

1274
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 6: to where if I ever get anywhere close to the

1275
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 6: to a mass and the wealth that some of these

1276
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 6: cats got, I'm a moveing silence, bro, because it's like

1277
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 6: you become a turney man. Yeah, you gotta hustle, disappear.

1278
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 6: I think I would just I mean somewhere bro and

1279
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 6: just off.

1280
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 4: You just keep your nose clean. You know, as you elevate,

1281
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 4: you gotta still stay grounded. And you understand that you

1282
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 4: become more of a target, You become more because listen,

1283
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 4: it's niggas in the hood doing the same bullshit Puffy

1284
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 4: doing right now, or he didn't allegedly did you know

1285
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 4: what I'm saying?

1286
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 2: That shit is, you know, but they don't have that resource.

1287
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 4: They don't have you know, like I said, people are

1288
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 4: incentivized by greed. So you know, you just got to

1289
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 4: keep your nose clean. I mean, it's really common sense.

1290
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 4: Nobody's perfect, but you try to minimize, you know, the

1291
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 4: self sabotage and the bullshit.

1292
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, I can't do that. I can't move

1293
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: like a regular nigga.

1294
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, I might want to have an orgy,

1295
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 4: but I can't do that because y'all gonna sue me.

1296
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, You can't do it, man,

1297
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 6: because I'm gonna tell you onebody, I'm gonna tell you this.

1298
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 6: Lebron James is the perfect example. You can't tell me

1299
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 6: this Man's been in the NBA, damn in twenty years.

1300
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 6: You can't tell me he never hit no otside.

1301
01:07:59,120 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: You would never hear about it. You would never hear

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01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 6: about it, you know what I'm saying. You would never

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01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 6: hear about the coordination. Slate is clean. You gotta move

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01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 6: like that though. Bro, whoever his team around here, they

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01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 6: got him, They got him on point. You know. But Lo, Man,

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Speaker 6: I'm really glad we had you wont here. Man, I'm

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01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 6: gonna have to have you on here again. Man, if

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Speaker 6: you really entertained as.

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Speaker 5: Dude man.

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01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 6: Podcast too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Man, Hey, hey Man, Hey, still you know all

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Speaker 1: you'all do is give him the info.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a support whoever support with me, Man,

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01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: And like I say, I'm I'm I'm a personal vibes

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Speaker 1: man and and Bro, you.

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01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 5: Know I'm rocking with him man.

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01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 1: You know he because like I don't disagree with nothing

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01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: that that's been said, but like as far as the

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01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: people that is executing us off of assumptions and and

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01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: and and and things that's being said, it's like I

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01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: have no choice but to respect it because and it

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01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: opened up a lane to where these is the way

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01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: people are eating. So it's nothing like, it's nothing different

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01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: from before the internet when the news break the stories

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01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: and the reporters and stuff break the stories. Is just

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01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: hearing it from our own people kind of make us

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01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: feel a certain type of way. But that's state platforms

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01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: and then that's the way that they eat. And like

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01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: to me in the hustling game and then in the game, yeah,

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01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 1: get your bread, disappear or reinvent yourself. But like with

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01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 1: the people that had these brands, in order to stay relevant,

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01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: and the way that you have to continue to reinvent

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01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: yourself and stay in tune with the times and keep

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01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, getting into other endeavors and stuff to keep

1337
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: what you got going on going on, it's kind of

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01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: hard to just disappear.

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01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 5: That's why it's all.

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01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: That's why it all goes back to one of the

1341
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 1: questions he asked me, like, do I feel like they

1342
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: do it to themselves? The type of stuff that's taking

1343
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: him down? Man, It's like, come on, bro.

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01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, let me aah shure this though, bro, And is

1345
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 6: it a black thing? Because I know a couple of

1346
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 6: white bigionnaires, right, people that's really big in theires, right,

1347
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 6: and you they've never been on TV or nothing like that.

1348
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 6: You didn't have people that own major networks, Like you

1349
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 6: never hear about the dude that own NBC. I'm pretty

1350
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 6: sure he doing just as freaking shit as Puffy he

1351
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 6: is doing, but you don't hear about him. He's not

1352
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 6: at the party he's got out there. It's like you

1353
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 6: will see a dude one of them that's worth a

1354
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 6: billion dollars, they'd be driving behind the cord because they're not.

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 6: They don't have the same mindset to where we gotta

1356
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 6: flown our wealth. You feel what I mean? We have

1357
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 6: to have our shit gonna display and let people know, well,

1358
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 6: I'm doing this. I'm talking the loudest, Like like look

1359
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 6: at Dame Dash for example. I almost feel sorry for

1360
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 6: this brother just because he talked the loudest. People is

1361
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 6: enjoying his fall from the grace, so to speak. Yeah,

1362
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 6: you feel what I'm saying. It's like if you'd have

1363
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 6: just been a little it more. Not saying that he didn't.

1364
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you some of the ship Dang was doing.

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01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 6: The people they deserved it, Bro, Some of the ship

1366
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 6: he was saying. He was saying, some real ship. But sometimes, Bro,

1367
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,879
Speaker 6: you gotta play the background dog, the dude that's the quietest,

1368
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 6: stay alive alone.

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01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, one thing Len and then and then take race

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01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 5: out of it.

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01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: I don't really know how to say due name, but

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01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 1: the epscene dude the same situation. But the thing about

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01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: them is they cracking fold. So you know, like Eve

1374
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: from the City and watch his demids play out. He

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01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: went on, get it to itself or.

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01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 6: Somebody did it to him, because I'm gona tell you, bro,

1377
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 6: don't be surprised if they said, and Puffy, you have

1378
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 6: to make it look like he did something to hisself

1379
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 6: because they already said that the man is on suicide watch.

1380
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 6: They're saying he's not eating to me, that making place.

1381
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 6: So if somebody going there and slit his throat in

1382
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 6: the middle of the night, they can say he killed hisself.

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01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's already overstood.

1384
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: He ain't going out by himself and he gonna do

1385
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: whatever to try to get them up out of there. So,

1386
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: like I say, Man, like the people that they they've

1387
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: been naming so far, you know, just.

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01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 5: Been people that we're familiar with.

1389
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: Man, but I'm pretty sure Man as pretty much a

1390
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: billionaire and the shoulders that he was rubbing and bumping

1391
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: into and likes when he goes when you when you

1392
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:32,799
Speaker 1: go to talking about them real gangsters like we call ourselves. Geez,

1393
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: we do G stuff. We are the g stuff, you know,

1394
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: some of us. But them politicians them the.

1395
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,560
Speaker 6: Game, them politicians, man, liquor companies, man and people that

1396
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 6: spending millions of dollars to lobby and getting laws changed,

1397
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 6: and ship them the gangsters.

1398
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 4: Dog they kill you and leave you breathing.

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01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

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01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 2: They do it a little bit different.

1401
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 4: They kill you and leave me breathing.

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01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: And you can't you can't walk with them because we

1403
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: have street justice in our mind.

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01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 5: How we do it, man, Them people.

1405
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: Get you with paperwork black and white paper ping pad

1406
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: like and.

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01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 5: And a it's a rap.

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Speaker 4: With a woman.

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01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 6: So too low working. The people hits you up at man,

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Speaker 6: man on I G.

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Speaker 1: O G number two, l O w uh YouTube number two,

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Speaker 1: l O w uh. Just all platform man, you know,

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Speaker 1: too low? I got some sites like Twitter and what

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Speaker 1: that is, TikTok dope board, too low you know.

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Speaker 5: You know all them places, man, you know? And and in.

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Speaker 1: My new music y'all want to check out all streaming platforms.

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Speaker 5: Just go to number two l O W.

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Speaker 1: And you know the music is and you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of my most stept on albums. You know that

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Speaker 1: if I wouldn't have got locked up on, I feel

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Speaker 1: like would have had a you know impact, you know,

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Speaker 1: d Boy Chronicles is that you know, That's why when

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Speaker 1: my but they still hit me with the Gangster Chronicles,

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Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, man, you know that's.

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Speaker 6: Y'all. Make sure y'all can hit my boy big cord

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Speaker 6: up at the Home Court podcast and we out of here. Well,

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Speaker 6: that concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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Speaker 6: Be sure to download the iHeart app and subscribe to

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Speaker 6: leave of comment and rating. Executive producers for The Gangst

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Speaker 6: Chronicles podcasts Norman Still, Aaron M. C a Tyler. Our

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Speaker 6: visual media director is Brian Whatt, and audio editors tell

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