1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Cute Boy come back. It's 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: happening to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hands and I am joined by 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: a room failed with heroes Mark Sassler, Chris Westling and yes, 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: cute boy Greg Rosthal. What's up boys? Thank you boy? 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: This is starting to get some Like Greg I apologized, 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: I did not know it would come to this. I 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: feel like the whole podcast, the last four or five 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: years was leading to that moment. I found it delightful. Um. Yes, 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: it is the end of the first week of free agency. 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Things are maybe slowing down a little bit, but there's 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: still some big storylines out there. What's the biggest storyline 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: out there? As of taping Greg Rosenal and Dominican Sue 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: visiting with the Saints, But just where where he land? 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: Between him and Sheldon Richardson and Honey Badger, those still 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: three big name free agents to get to pick teams 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: you anything side uh kissing cousins. I'm very annoyed. Uh. 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: I learned recently that after working here for what seven 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: eight years, I don't even know when can I mean 20 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: thousands upon thousands of authored articles, columns, tweets covering the 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: sport that I was denied entry into the Pro Football 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: Writers of America with a strongly worded email saying that 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: I simply have not really accomplished anything that would fall 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: into their guidelines. So I not sure what else I 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: need to do here. I don't know. I guess I'll 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: just I'll just keep writing. I'll keep trying by football 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: Cognizenti's the reason for your denial is because you worked 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: for this company. They don't allow anyone that. I'm not 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: sure what the reason is. I find it offensive. Whatever 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: the reason, the email you showed us that the reason 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: was they don't allow NFL employees. I think they use 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: that as some sort of a hey uh, like, hey, 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: I have a a medical issue that you can't complaining 34 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Throw that into the email that I 35 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: think the subtext was you aren't a real journalist. In 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: our rise, we all went to journals school and keep 37 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: it real. Let's keep it real. Go ask Mike Silver 38 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: if he's in the Writer's club because they don't allow NFL. 39 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: As I and Rappaport, I thought I could have brought 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: a lot to the table there um script. I was 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: saying somebody should ask and see what the answer did. 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: I was once a member of the Pro Football Writers 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: Association for a few years before I worked here, And yeah, 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: I think the bar is pretty much just can you 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: pay the thirty dollar fee because there's lots of you know, 46 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: I think if you just have a blog, you low 47 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: level website, like you can be anyone enjoying it. Apparently not. 48 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: I don't think they're there too. I'll write another eight 49 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: thousand articles and see if maybe they, you know, redefine 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: their stance on this. It is indeed a rule that 51 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: you cannot be a member while working for this company. 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: But I do like your ability to suss out all 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, we threw all that and and know that 54 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: they would not accept you regard they would not, And 55 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: that's really the spirit. They were in a little room 56 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: and probably eighteen or nineteen journals, just chuckling at my letter. 57 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: It's exactly I will remember it. Remember the website, I 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: think it was fired Joe Morgan, where they would take 59 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: somebody's bad column, some of the bad take and then 60 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: just piece by piece taking apart. They probably had your 61 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: letter up on a projector and they're all just just laughing. 62 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: Drinking whiskey everywhere, right, No, it's obviously a buffet. Have 63 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: you tried about reapplying and showing them that Joe Thomas 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: retirement banger that you did a great job with the 65 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: other I don't think. I don't think it. I don't 66 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: know if it would do anything. I don't think it's 67 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: up to night. I don't anything for the Pro Football 68 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: Club of America. No, why do you want to be 69 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: in that club anyway? I just wanted to see it 70 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: might be nice. Exposed the fact that they wouldn't let 71 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: him in the fancy pants writer's club, Like, what what 72 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: do you actually get besides paying dues? There was a 73 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: night when I had a few beers and me and 74 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: I thought, I'm just gonna apply for this thing and 75 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: see what happened. Did you sign up? You get a 76 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: free friendship with Gary Meyers. I mean at the time 77 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: I was working at NBC and before profoble, like just 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: because I didn't know anyone, essentially to just meet people 79 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I guess hard pass I didn't last. 80 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: It's a room full of with whiskey and women, Danny. 81 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: It's literally the opposite of that. It is the most 82 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: depressing room. Probably in the business. Who knows, We won't know. 83 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: It's like a nine fifties television show inside of a club. Okay, 84 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: sorry about that, mark Um. Maybe maybe in the future. 85 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: You never know what. The future holds a lot to 86 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: talk about. So we're gonna go through a whole list 87 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: of news. Maybe for fun, we'll throw in some winners 88 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: and losers of the first week in free agency if 89 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: you have any uh and uh. It's more the trade 90 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: tsunami struck again. Just great tragedy, great casualties. Just can't 91 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,119 Speaker 1: take it anymore. You just want the tsunami to stop. 92 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: At this point, I read on a political website that 93 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: they they heard that the wave of Democrats coming this 94 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: year in the House of Representatives might turn into a tsunami. 95 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: So the tsunami is now going outside of the realm 96 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: of football and across the country into politics and everything else. 97 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: So you have been enhanced a word, yes, Ringward Dean 98 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: scream back. You know, Greg, I did hear people in 99 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: the our other newsroom over on the other building talking 100 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: about you. There's only one newsroom, okay, the the Edit 101 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: Bay area, which we often called the newsroom talking about 102 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. He called this trade tsunami. I heard a 103 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: couple of guys chattering about it. They said, that's crazy. 104 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: He called it that. Now Alban's using it. There you go. 105 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: It's spread across the campus to the other building on 106 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: our on our lot. Is it a cute that the 107 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: other building calls their room the newsroom. It'll be on 108 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: my tombstone. You've created a tsunami personal against you, Lindsay, 109 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: you've created a tsunami of hype about tsunami. It's basically 110 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: the room where like Check has turned into his own 111 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: personal playground. I think it's not a lot of news. 112 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: I think it's Marca's total access is like up to 113 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: the second news and they do a lot of news 114 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: over there. Okay, I'm I love for a fight. I'm 115 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: looking this fight. I'm out traditioning out some of the 116 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: articles we write, so you guys over there will send 117 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: it over to Tim Posty's way to write. Sully, he 118 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: can write a few articles. See how that goes. Let's 119 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: do some news. Louisa had a by the way in 120 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: New Orleans is back and this shows the whole world world. 121 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: Tom Benson, the longtime owner of the New Orleans Saints. 122 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: That was what he said at on the riser at 123 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty four when the Saints, just a couple 124 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: of years after Katrina hoisted the Lombardi uh Benson passed 125 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: away on Thursday at the age of ninety uh from 126 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: natural causes. Uh Inson also was the owner of the 127 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: New Orleans Pelicans of the NBA. But this was an 128 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: influential figure both in the NFL greg and in the 129 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: Louisiana area in general. This was that this was a 130 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: giant in New Orleans. Yeah, he doesn't get much more 131 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: New Orleans than him. He grew up in a shotgun 132 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: house in the seventh ward, had no money, built up 133 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: his fortune through owning banks and and car dealerships, and 134 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: he was complicated like a lot of New Orleans people had. 135 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: It had a character. There are certain times that New 136 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: Orleans was pretty upset with Tom Benson, but there were 137 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, back in the eighty five One thing I 138 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: didn't really realize was, you know, from the moment he 139 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: took over the team, they basically got a sent much 140 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: better uh. Through his hiring of general general manager who 141 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: ended up hiring Jim Mora. Certainly through the decisions after 142 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: Katrina after that tough season with Jim Haslet to make 143 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: a very tough decision to fire Jim has It when 144 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: he was loved who he had won the only playoff 145 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: game in Saints history and really steered them through a 146 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: tough season. Fired Jim Hazlet anyways, and wound up hiring 147 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: UH Sean Payton, which led to all this success. So 148 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: a complicated guy, but like but a very memorable UH 149 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: owner and in a league full of guys who know 150 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: how to handle their business, he was the head of 151 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: the finance committee for a long long time. So even 152 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: among people who were shrewd negotiators and businessmen, they were 153 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: the guy. He was the guy that they looked to 154 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: to negotiate their deals. People today, if you're thirty something 155 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: years old, you have no distinct memory of how all 156 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: people don't understand I'm one of them because I was. 157 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: This is before I became a football fan. The Saints 158 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: were the directs of the NFL forever, and for as 159 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: great as Peyton and Eli Manning have have have been 160 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: for their teams, the Archie Manning suffered through hell with 161 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: those old Saints teams. And when I became like a 162 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: Browns fan of the six. The following season, I was 163 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: making my little summertime football maga scene and I started to, 164 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: you know you, you'd start to glean information from like 165 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 1: USA Today and newspapers and like, this Saints team, this 166 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: EIGHTI seven Saints team is coming in hot, and so 167 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: in my little predictions, I was like, I'm gonna pick 168 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: them to win the division, which was crazy because the 169 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: Niners were in that division back then. And Cleveland opened 170 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: the eighties seven season against the Saints, and I spent 171 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: months terrified that Cleveland was gonna go oh in one, 172 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: and they got dropped by the Saints and the strike 173 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: hit that year. But the Saints went twelve and three, 174 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: and the one memory I have of Tom Benson, and 175 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: it's it's been played a billion times since because that 176 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: season when they went twelve and three, was one of 177 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: the biggest things that had happened in football in decades. 178 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: And Tom Benson, a much younger guy, was dancing around 179 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: with his little umbrella back yeah, and it was that 180 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: became famous that season. I was like, who is this guy? 181 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: He's a crazy man. I like him, Tom Benson. That 182 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: at the end of age of ninety. Moving on, What's 183 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: up let's up West. He thinks there's been enough Tom 184 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: Benson coverage. You know, a lot when an owner dies, 185 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: the owners own the network. So I think when an 186 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: owner dies, the owners get a lot of attention. I 187 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: think it's fair to say it's fair to say Gayle 188 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: Benson the kind of the football of it all is 189 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: Gayle Benson, his third wife, takes over the team immediately. 190 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: It's already been approved. So there was a lot of 191 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: controversy around the family a couple of years back. Was 192 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: that squared away or is that something that's still going 193 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: on that the Gayle Benson and Tom Benson won a 194 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: lawsuit against uh, basically the rest of Tom Benson's family, 195 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: including his grandchildren some children. Pretty ugly lawsuit, and so 196 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: they're kind of out of the business, and Gayle Benson 197 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: is now running the Saints and the Pelicans moving on, 198 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: The Oakland Raiders are continuing to retool. They have signed 199 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson, the veteran wide receiver who was cut earlier 200 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: this week by the Green Bay Packers. Rap Sheet reports 201 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: it's a two year deal worth fifteen and thirteen of 202 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: that guaranteed. James Jones, former Packers wide out actually broke. 203 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: This news probably ruffled some feathers inside the building. Uh. 204 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: And to make news for make room for Nelson, the 205 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: Raiders released Michael Crabtree. Uh. Crabtree hits the street. Maybe 206 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: not for long though, because the Ravens. We reported earlier 207 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: this week that they had agreed with a deal with 208 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: former Redskins receiver Ryan Grant that fell through because of 209 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: a medical issue, And now the um Ravens are hot 210 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: for Crabtree, so we'll see how long, Uh, he stays 211 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: on the market. Your thoughts on this move West or 212 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: these moves, Well, it seems from reading the Las Vegas 213 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: Review Journal over the last few months, they consistently reported 214 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: the crab Trees roster spot was in jeopardy because he 215 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: was basically a headache in the locker room last season. 216 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: So it seemed to me that they were looking for 217 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: a reason to cut ties with him, and Jordy Nelson 218 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: became the reason they didn't want to let him out 219 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: the door. Agreed to a two year deal with him, 220 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: and we'll see who's got more left in the tank 221 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: this year between Jordi and Crabtree. I'd take Crabtree. It's 222 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: a lot they gave him thirteen million dollars guaranteed for 223 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson. Maybe he's their slot receiver and he has 224 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: a different future than he really had in terms of 225 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: how he played in Green Bay, which was primarily on 226 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: the outside. James Co sent out a tweet just showing 227 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: how much separation Jordi had been getting as a slot 228 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: receiver when they moved him inside in Green Bay. So 229 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: maybe he can kind of remake who he was because 230 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: he definitely has lost a lot of foot speed. And 231 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: it's the type of signing that that bad teams make. 232 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: Is veterans on the other side of the hill, well, 233 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: and it's Reggie Mackenzie and the other people he knows 234 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: inside the Raiders front office saying oh, we'll dump crab Tree, 235 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: who might be a better receiver at this point for 236 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: just a guy that we know and Jordy Nelson. I 237 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: want to I want to find out one thing though 238 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: from the Ravens angle. You show me what's wrong with 239 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: Ryan Grant's body. Show me, well, they wouldn't be able 240 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: to avoid the deal if he was healthy. I'm I 241 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: want to know. I want to know, But what's actually 242 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: wrong with Ryan Grant who's never missed an NFL game. 243 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: This feels sup burnt fishy to me on this is 244 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: on Mark's radar, it being the Ravens, and it does 245 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: seem a little fishy. He's never missed the game in 246 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: his career, and there are some people who who would say, 247 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of gray area in teams physicals, 248 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: and you could probably find a reason to fail a 249 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: guy for a lot of reasons if you really, if 250 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: you are motivated to do so. So people are saying 251 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: that the Ravens not only released him just because they 252 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: wanted Crabtree, but they didn't they think they already have 253 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: crab Tree in the bag and he's a guy they wanted. 254 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: All that doesn't make sense to mendizations here against your Ravens. 255 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: So you don't like Mark Famous, No, I just I 256 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: I well, I do like as he knew some a lots. 257 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he's never missed an NFL game, So that 258 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: that's I just want to I just say all I say, 259 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: show me the body part that's not up to snuff 260 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens. Show me the body part. Don't 261 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: you think that he would be speaking out angrily Ryan 262 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: Grant if that was the case he's he's still around, 263 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: he may still speak. Well, we'll track the story where 264 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: a news podcast for the NFL, it shows that John 265 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: Gruden's were in terms of praise don't mean a lot 266 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: because in February quote Crabtree is a big reason I 267 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: was excited to get here. And it's not like that 268 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: was like that that's necessarily a lie or anything, but 269 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: it just shows these quotes publicly. Are people going to 270 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: deal with their five and eleven John Cruden led Raiders. 271 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: That's on your radar too, you're on fire today. No, 272 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: I just think that. I think it's like this assumption 273 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: that they're gonna go twelve and four and win that division. 274 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody it's not a good looking roster 275 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I think they. Gruden's here, he's bringing excitement, 276 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: They're trying to get back on track, but I don't 277 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: think anybody has them locked in to go back to 278 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: the super It's it's a classic straw Man scenario that 279 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm raising. Doug Martin is also on the team. How 280 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: about that, uh Doug Martin who washed out with the 281 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: Bucks after a couple of dreadful seasons and a suspension 282 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: for UH drug use twenty nine years old, but he 283 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: gets a deal. Now. I know Greg's getting hot in 284 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: the pants because he has sandwich props on Marshaw Lynch 285 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: getting cut. But Mike Silver of NFL Media, who's a 286 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: man in the know when it comes to Bay Area football, 287 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: says that is not happening. Yeah, it looks like I'm 288 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: gonna lose that sandwich proposition, and it has to be 289 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: by the end of the month, so it has to 290 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: happen fairly soon. Doug Martin for the prices at why 291 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: not take a swing. But when Gruden said I'm gonna 292 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: bring well, let's bring it back to he wasn't. He 293 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: wasn't just saying that, not with these players necessarily, but 294 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: with his approach. Their first signings were a pair of 295 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: blocking tight ends, resigning Lee Smith and getting another one, 296 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: Derreck Carrier, who they paid pretty good money, and signing 297 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: a fullback or two, I believe, I think at least 298 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: one where they told Gruden told Keith Smith from the Cowboys, 299 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: like get ready because we're putting a lot on you. 300 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: And that's the fullback. So he's going blocking tight ends fullback. 301 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: He's trying to zig a little bit while the rest 302 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: of the league. Zagging isn't necessarily a terrible idea. I 303 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: think if you're Raiders faying, you have to be, you know, 304 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: heartened that your head coach is playing Jeff as your football. 305 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: It reminds me when he was in Tampa. They would 306 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: always sign these big names kind of towards the end 307 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: of their career. It's not too different from what Al 308 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: Davis used to do in Oakland, like big names, championship 309 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: like type of guys that have done it before. It 310 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: didn't really work for John Gorden and Tampa. By the way, 311 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: we got to find a way to get Michael Crabtree. 312 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: Forget about this raven stuff. Get him in the NFC West. 313 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: We need a little keep to leave Crabtree. Round three 314 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: just a fight to the death. Why not? Why not? 315 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: Like Roman times, bring it back thumbs up, thumbs down, 316 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: you know the deal mark, thumbs up. I could see 317 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: you as a king deciding the fate of slaves. That 318 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: feels I like a lower level job in that castle. 319 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: Kind of just hide out. Moving on, The Miami Dolphins 320 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: made a surprise move on Thursday releasing there a long 321 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: time center Mike pouncey Um and they've wasted no time 322 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: filling that hole by trading with the forty Niners for 323 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: Adam Kilgore, who I guess was deemed expendable there because 324 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: of a They signed Danny Kilgore. Danny, Oh, Danny. No 325 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: one calls him Danny. I just made that Dan Daniel. Yeah. Anyway, 326 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: the forty Niners made a signing of signing the former Giants, 327 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: uh interior alignment, which led to I guess Kilgore being 328 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: expend expendable, but they just gave him an extension. I 329 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: don't really know what the Niners are doing. They're building 330 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: a great team and they got a great young quarterback, 331 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: but they're they have their free agency plans are weird anyway, 332 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: Pouncy is a free agent. Uh, your thoughts mark not 333 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: as weird as the Dolphins free agency plans, which I mean, 334 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: I think they're an easy target and it's easy just 335 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: to fire off on the Dolphins for what they've done 336 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: over the last week or so. But you replaced Jarvis 337 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: Landry with Albert Wilson and Danny Amendola. You replaced nodami 338 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: En Sue with essentially Robert Quinn, and you've replaced a 339 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl center. You know he wants his release, so 340 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: he's gone on and you replaced them with a guy 341 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: that wasn't a starter a couple of years ago. I think, 342 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: if you're a Dolphins fan, you're sitting out there saying, 343 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: hit me with the pr pitch on why this season 344 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: coming up is a fun one that I should get 345 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: galvanized for as a human. Well, they signed Josh. Sitting there, 346 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: you go, that's greater out Remember what everybody used to 347 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: call interior Lenman Road greater as much. Let's bring it back. 348 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: If you have to use guard or something over and 349 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: over and in an article you might hit Road greater 350 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: like paragraph for Earth Mover. This move by the forty 351 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: nine are signing a guy who in your press release 352 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: you touted him as one of the future the leaders 353 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: of our organization and a future leader, and then they 354 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: traded him a month later. Is I almost give him 355 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: credit for this. It's something that's I've never heard of 356 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: it before. They structured the contract in such a way 357 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: where there was no signing bonus. It's almost as if 358 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: they knew this was a possibility and then they they 359 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: found an upgrade. So a sense, it was kind of 360 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: a low risk move that they blocked in the guy 361 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: they liked at a at a price that was apparently tradeable, 362 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: got an upgrade, and then we're able to deal him away. Now, 363 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 1: they didn't really give him get anything for him. They 364 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: just kind of dumped him. But I've never heard of 365 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 1: such a thing. Kyle Shanahan has very strong opinions on 366 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: several positions. He saw it with Kyle used Check last year. 367 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: He wants a chess piece at fullback, so with Jared McKinnon, 368 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: and he also spoke in very specific, glowing terms about 369 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: the center position and what it means in his offense. 370 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: And I think they targeted Western Richberg as a guy 371 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: who can allow them to do many more different things 372 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: than Daniel Kilgoorde. We'll think about he had Alex Mack 373 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: and Cleveland, and with Atlanta they made a big pitch 374 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: and they got Alex Mack and that helped that line alot. 375 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: And I can't kill the Dolphins for cutting Pouncey, who's 376 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: made some Pro Bowls, but also for what it's worth, 377 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: was ranked very low in Pro Football Focus last year. 378 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: Has also had suspensions, has had injuries. Uh, last we 379 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: heard he had a framed picture of Aaron Hernandez and 380 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: his base we're talking. These are all these are all 381 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: tricky things. Was Incognito's right hand man in the so like? 382 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: And actually that a great guy. That seems that seems okay. 383 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: Whenever you have the chance to sign a Aaron Hernandez 384 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: Truther to a multimillion dollar contract, you gotta do it. 385 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: Leap leap on that he's out there right by the 386 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: way and signed him yet, right. I think he'll end 387 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: up getting a saucy contract though, because there's no offensive lineman. Yes, 388 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: and I agree. Vante's Perfick. Speaking of suspensions, he is 389 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: facing a four game ban for use of P E 390 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: D s Perfect is appealing. Uh, this is just the 391 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: latest alleged transgression for Perfect, who has long been an 392 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: issue for the Bengals despite being a high quality linebacker. Yeah, 393 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: I mean on top of this is the third suspension, 394 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: the first P E D related one. But NFL Research 395 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: sent out a extensive list of the varied in fractions 396 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: of Perfick's career dating back to he has been find 397 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars, and these include such issues 398 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: as ankle twisting, spearing, striking a player in the groin, 399 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: flipping the middle finger to fans legs stumping. Shall I 400 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: go on? I mean it's endless defenseless player hits. I 401 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: mean it's stuff we've seen during the playoff game with 402 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers, NonStop chicanery from this guy. Was a guy 403 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: born to play in the league with Vince mcmahn. It's 404 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: the guy who's a mides wrestling hell Vante's birth. This 405 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: is my favorite list from Sessler since fifty adjectives to 406 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: describe the Cowboys defense. I mean he created the list. 407 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: I can four. Well, it's almost as if he was 408 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: playing like suspension BINGO and TVs was like the last 409 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: the last thing to check off. Well. Rap Sheet reported 410 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: that the Bengals can get out of this contract, which 411 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: includes eleven point three million and guarantees if if Berfet 412 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: loses the appeal on this, So there's not he's been 413 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 1: a difference maker on the field. Whenever he's out on 414 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: one of these annual suspensions, the Bengals defense falls apart, 415 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: and whenever he comes back they get a lot better 416 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: real quick. But I don't how long do you They've 417 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: been enabling this guy for his entire career. How long 418 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: do you continue to enable right, they've been a champion 419 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: through all this nonsense. Well he could he could potentially 420 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: land in Oakland, where there was a very unconfirmed report 421 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: that he was going to get traded to Oakland. That 422 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: proved to be untrue. But there is makes a little 423 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: sense and John Gruden loved him. Some vanta is perfect. 424 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: On Monday Night Football last year, another Brown's trade. This 425 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: time they send cornerback Jason mccordy to the Patriots. Um 426 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: for well, they swapped seventh round picks, so the Browns 427 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: move up a little bit. Is that they got New 428 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: England's six, I believe, so essentially like it would be 429 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: like in the in the Patriots get their Brown seventh. 430 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: So it's like gonna be two or three picks with 431 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: each other in the sixth round. Is the lowest possible compensation. 432 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: They they were eastm initially and then the Patriots. Before 433 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: the transaction struck, the Patriots called up and said, we 434 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: want a second pair of twins on our roster. We 435 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: will take Jason mccordy. Mccordy fills uh the void left 436 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: by Malcolm Butler also was according to PFF, the number 437 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: seventeen cover corner in the league last year. So the 438 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: Browns of two days lose their left tackle and their 439 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: best quarterback. Why Mark, was there something we don't know 440 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: about mccordy. Well, I think because they signed t J. 441 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: Kerry and Terrence Mitchell at cornerback and Marius Randall at safety, 442 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: and it's typically I just think it's like a new 443 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: front office scene. We don't like any of your old players. 444 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: We're just gonna rotate in new ones. I go ahead, now, 445 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: you go ahead. I was very surprised by this because 446 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: I thought mccordy played at a pro bowl level and 447 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: maybe the best season he's ever I don't get why 448 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: they did it on It's like the year before when 449 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: everybody spent the whole season saying, why did we get 450 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: rid of Joe Hayden? He still had plenty left in 451 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: the tank, and now you're gonna have the same regrets 452 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: again this year when he was making virtually he's making 453 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: three million dollars, which is an amazing bargain for anyone 454 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: that play is nine snaps for you. Dorsey said he 455 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: told mccordy that there was a good chance he wasn't 456 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: gonna make the roster, so that out of respect for him, 457 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: they were going to cut him now, which is strange 458 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: and then totally phony because he totally showed a lack 459 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: of respect by ultimately choosing mccordy's destination on a very 460 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: cheap contract, where mccordy could have maybe gotten more money 461 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: or at least chosen where he wanted to go. Him 462 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: and his brother have said they've wanted to play together, 463 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: so I don't think he's that disappointed. But yeah, enough 464 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: with the like, I respect him so much, I'm gonna 465 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: fire him and then not fire him. In other Cleveland news, 466 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: uh Tyrod Taylor was introduced as their new quarterback, in fact, 467 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: their new starting quarterback, after Taylor spoke Hugh Jackson UH 468 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: back to his QB saying, quote, He's going to be 469 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. There is no competition. Is that a 470 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: truth or is that a lie? Mark? I mean they 471 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: they were tweeting out what Ryan Pace said when they 472 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: signed Mike Glennon last year, and it was the exact 473 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: same quote. I think Hugh Jackson doesn't want to deal 474 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: with another rookie, but give me a break. I mean, 475 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: all of this could completely crumble and change. I just 476 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: find it. I don't even change his quarterbacks every other hour. Right, 477 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: why do you even say this? I mean, except he 478 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: just said it in a very confident way, like there's 479 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: no there's no competition this time around. We'll see that. 480 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: That's strange, like why is there? Why would there ever 481 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: not be a competition in any position? I thought that 482 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: Tyrod's self esteem could use a little a little boost, 483 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: but it seemed unnecessary. It wasn't necessary. You're right, are 484 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: the Browns better than they were three weeks ago? Mark Sessler? 485 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: I think so. I think so too. The Tom Joe 486 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: Thomas being gone leaves a huge hole. They don't already 487 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: answer for that one. I don't quite get the mccordy thing, 488 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: but Tyrod is a huge upgrade. So they should be 489 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: better moving on the Seattle Seahawks and make a move. 490 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: They signed Ed Dixon, so there you go. The replacement 491 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: for Jimmy Graham West. I like it. He doesn't have 492 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: the name that Jimmy Graham does. But he played really 493 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: well last season. And whereas he really struggled to catch 494 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: the ball with anybody within a few feet distance of 495 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: him early in his Ravens career, uh, he's gotten more 496 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: consistent since since he landed in Carolina and now going 497 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: on to Seattle. I think he's he's a good signing. 498 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: And in other Seahawks news, Richard Sherman as this might 499 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: not come as a surprise, gentleman, but Sherman is beginning 500 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: to speak out about uh, the Seattle Seahawks. Uh. He said, uh. 501 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: In a interview with your boy Mark Joe Thomas as 502 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: well as Andrew Hawkins on the Tomahawk podcast, Oh I 503 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: get it, Toma for Thomas and Hawkins, Hawk there it is. 504 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: Show is doing very well, not bad, not bad anyway. 505 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman said he thinks part of the problem, and 506 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: apparently there's a problem in Seattle, is that Pete Carol's 507 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: message is getting stale to the vets, the idea that 508 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: there's a college mentality in place. After four guys four years, 509 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: you shuttle guys out, no matter what. Here's what else 510 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: he had to say. I think at the end of 511 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: the day, it just became an issue of devalue in 512 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: core players. You know, players that that that are playing 513 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: at a high level and and really being curious about 514 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: younger players and you know, curious about the unknown. You 515 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: know that they say maybe maybe this guy is gonna 516 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: be the next guy. Instead of saying, hey, you have 517 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame talents, you know in your secondary how 518 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: about you ride this out? Would be like Pittsburgh saying, 519 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, Troy Paulamalu was was great, but you know, 520 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 1: let's figure out what this guy behind the mark. I mean, 521 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: I can see why he's frustrated and and probably if 522 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: you're Richard Sherman, I mean you feel disrespected, and you don't. 523 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: I think veteran players you've heard this before. When they 524 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: break essentially break up a winning team, a lot of 525 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: anks comes with it. But I don't think it's fair 526 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: to say that that, uh, Pete Carroll's anything but a 527 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: top five NFL coach who essentially helped make Sherman's career 528 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: and plenty of other players, and took that team to 529 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: multiple Super Bowls. I mean, if getting stale, getting tired 530 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 1: of a coach's message probably happens to a lot of them. 531 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: But Pete Carroll is more than just a college coach. 532 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: I think it's a legitimate and fair criticism of sports 533 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: executives and team builders going back to the eighteen sixties 534 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: and seventies, they always try to find the next big 535 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: thing at the cost of what they have in house. 536 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 1: It seems to be the nature of the position, and 537 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: I think that is fair. But eighteen sixties, do you 538 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: you will read if you go back and read baseball 539 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: history of owners from the eighteen sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, 540 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: that was a criticism backed in it. They were always 541 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: willing to kind of overlook the veterans on their own 542 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: team in search of the new, next best. Doesn't marginalize 543 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: what Pete Carroll's accomplished though in Seattle, just like, well, 544 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: we can't skip over this. We saved for the Civil 545 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: War podcast, Like everything was a little different, you know, 546 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: back before cars or like, oh they had electricity. It's 547 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: like it's like the quotes you read about Ty Cobb 548 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: or or something where we had to pay this guy 549 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: too much. Players are going to be running the game, 550 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, we're always gonna lose money. It's how the 551 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: NFL is set up, though, because I think that the 552 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: Seahawks tried to straddle that line, and I think they 553 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: held on to that group about as well or even 554 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: more than than some teams were. It's just kind of 555 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: what the salary cap in the wake. They contrafted terribly 556 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: for the past three or four years. It's the way 557 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: contracts are structured. I also do think there might be 558 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: something to the the idea that Pete Carroll is a 559 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: good builder, is a good teacher, that they're really good 560 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: at teaching fundamentals, and he has a lot of energy, 561 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: and that maybe he is a little better with a 562 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: young group starting over, and like that's that's not that's 563 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: a great skill to have in the NFL. Right, that 564 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: cis Pete Carroll uses philosophy and psychology more than most coaches. 565 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: So I do think that's a fair criticism that maybe 566 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: the message gets old, especially if you're over thirty and 567 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: you're ten multimillionaire. And my take on it is Richard Sherman, 568 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: there is something to be said for just turning the page. 569 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean a fifth round pick. Sherman got behind him, 570 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: turned him into, gave him the opportunity. He became a star, 571 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: He became a multimillionaire. He was lionized in Seattle and 572 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: by Pete Carol for years, and then they decided to 573 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: go in a different direction. Why do we now have 574 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: to get into this like mud slinging? Right, And a 575 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: lot of those plays thrived in the culture that Carol created. 576 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: It allowed them to be who they were. Right, It's 577 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: just not all it's not all negative. It's like he 578 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: created what helped your career, and now you don't like 579 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: the flip side of it. I said, this isn't that 580 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: much of a criticism. I don't think anything on the panel. 581 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: It feels like it's just getting started though. That would 582 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: be my might be his way of firing himself up, 583 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: a little motivating and all that going into the season. 584 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: And I know we're doing winners and losers a little later, 585 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: but early winner. How about TD our former podcast producer 586 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: who I've heard as the producer of the Tomahawk podcast 587 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: and he produced I guess that clip that we just 588 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: played on this podcast. T is back landed on his feet. 589 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: He's like, when was I gun? He's been busy, he's 590 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: been working. I know. I just mean he's back on 591 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: this podcast. Oh he's back here. Okay, Yeah, producing game? 592 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: Uh moving on? Oh? Talk about self esteem that maybe 593 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: needs a little pat on the old booty, because you 594 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: know what helps with that is phony public messages that 595 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna go back on in a couple of months. 596 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: That referring back to Tyrod and the Brown sorry self esteem. Uh, 597 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: Tavon Austin a couple of years back in one of 598 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: the you know, hindsight is But in that instance, everyone 599 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: involved at the football Gagna sent the was fully aware 600 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: that that was a mistake to give Tavon Austin superstar 601 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: wide receiver money. Well, the RAMS got out and they said, 602 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: we're dumping Tavon Austin. And now it turns out, listen, 603 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: actually after they lose um, Sammy Watkins, let's just rip 604 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: up that horrible, embarrassing contract for the organization and give 605 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: you a nice one year, five billion dollar deal up 606 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: to eight million if he hits some benchmarks. So Tavon 607 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: Austin not gone. He's cool, swallowing his pride and sticking 608 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: around because maybe his market wasn't so hot as it 609 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: turned out. Well, he didn't really have much of a 610 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: choice here. He I think that the Rams were hoping 611 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: to trade him and they didn't necessarily know how much 612 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: cap room they were gonna have. They're paying him five 613 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed regardless, because that was in his contract. 614 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: So when he went to another team, they were still 615 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: paying him that five million dollars. Anyways, they couldn't find 616 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: anything for him, and they had the idea maybe an 617 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: offseason would help him, and they got him to take 618 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: away the rest of the money in his contract and 619 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: put it into per game bonuses. So essentially they really 620 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: don't have any risk. They could still cut him in 621 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: August and pay him that if they if they felt 622 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: like it, And he thought, maybe, if, if ever, there's 623 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: a team I could do some things on this Rams 624 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: offense with, especially without Walkings here, maybe I can do something. 625 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: They got stuck a contracts. They need him to be 626 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: a deep trip because they're gonna miss Sammy Watkins speed. 627 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: But it's amazing to see guys like Tyreek Hill and 628 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks about the same size, about the same speed 629 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: can be very good deep threats in Tavon, Austin has 630 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: never had that skill. And now a word from our sponsor. 631 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: Dear human, are you stuck in a rut? Do you 632 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: find yourself bored with life, tired of yourself? Has your 633 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: crankiness level been turned way up? Do you suddenly realize 634 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: you said too much in conversations, turned off your friends, 635 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: agitated your coworkers. 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Moving on, the Panthers are signing former 655 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: Falcon's defensive tackle don Terry Poe, and Poe becomes Carolina's 656 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: instant replacement for are lul Lily. The Cardinals uh signing 657 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: Po three year deal. Wow. They went from one of 658 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: the hardest last names to pronounced too perhaps the easiest. 659 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: I wonder if that had anything to do with it. 660 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: The three year deal worth between nine and ten million 661 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: annually according to rap Sheet, just twenty seven years old West. Uh. 662 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: This is pretty nice signing, right they signed Po, but 663 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: it's never more for well done, Well done. Brian the 664 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: Panthers announced, failed his physical and his contract is off ouch. 665 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: So the big cornerback that they picked up, who Greg 666 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: and I both thought was a very good signing for them, 667 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: will not be playing in Carolina. I may be believed 668 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: this physical report versus the other one we discussed, this 669 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: one about the interressing. Both the players are from the 670 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: Redskins that failed. I don't know what that means. Um, 671 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: I have probably nothing. I have now two sources on 672 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: the malady that Ryan grant me. I'm waiting for my 673 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: third triple source. Everything you know that I'll wait, so 674 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: I'll let you as soon as I get that triple source. 675 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: Poe is more of a pass rusher. I like that 676 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: he cost less than Star. Did you just go first 677 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: name was Stark. Let's just go broke the bank. Yeah, 678 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: and that was one of the contracts. I think I'm 679 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: doing the best worst contracts at some point that I'm 680 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: putting that on the worst. It's too much for a 681 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: guy who doesn't really make much of an impact on 682 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: that list, for the guy who had a front row 683 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: seat to Kwan Short making all the play right, That's 684 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The Jaguars add another weapon for Blake Bortles. 685 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: Not to lead to the article, it feels very leady, 686 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: it's not. That was not the lead to my article. 687 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: Didn't you want to know West's lead to the article? 688 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: You guys are just by the tone of voice you 689 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: just heard the free agency frenzy ending that was it 690 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: West's lead. The Jaguars are fulfilling their plan to up 691 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: grade the talent surrounding quarterback Blake Bortles. Like then, Jacksonville 692 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: has agreed two terms with former Jets tight end Austin 693 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 1: Safarian Jenkins, a s J two years, ten million dollars. 694 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: Rap Sheet reported the Saints and Seahawks are also interested 695 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: in Safarian Jenkins, who kind of cleaned up his life. 696 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: He had a drinking problem. Uh, and an alcoholic he was, 697 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: and he got back on track. The Jets gave him 698 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: a shot because they're a classy organization. He kind of 699 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: re established himself as a young tight end that can 700 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: make plays. Kind of disappeared in the second half of 701 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: the season, which is probably why he's not still on 702 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: the Jets. But a guy that probably can make plays 703 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: that if the quarterback can get him the ball, we'll 704 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: see about that. Like words, I was a little surprised 705 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 1: at how much attention he was getting for a guy 706 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: who averaged seven point one yards per reception and to 707 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: me looked pretty slow with the bow in his hands. 708 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: He does do some things. He's got good hands, can 709 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: move the chain at hands. You can use him in 710 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: the red zone. DJ Daniel Jeremiah said he compared him 711 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: to Marseilles. He's Lewis coming out of college and now 712 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: he's going to learn from Mercedes Lewis, who doesn't move 713 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: very well his own. One note on this, do not, 714 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: if you even think about it, Jaguars, do not cut 715 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: My two favorite players on the team, Ben Koyak and 716 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: the day before St. Patty's Day, you do not release 717 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: James O'Shaughnessy colmate. Don't you understand I can I'm a 718 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: move tight end. I can block, but I also I'm 719 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: a chess piece. Don't you'll understand that might get him 720 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: cut if that's how he's addressing the team, nonstoff, I think. 721 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: I think they're in trouble because they signed Niles Paul, 722 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: who also place that end. They're also visiting with Luke Wilson. 723 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: They're just going all tight ends. I'd much rather have 724 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: Safarian Jenkins at that price than Jimmy Graham at the 725 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: price that he was. I couldn't degree give me a shot. 726 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: That's all I ask for. I've always loved you. The 727 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: Jets lost Austin Safarian Jenkins, but they do keep Mo 728 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,479 Speaker 1: Claiborne the core. Her back signs a one year, seven 729 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: million dollar deal like this a lot. Uh. Claiborne went healthy, 730 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: which is always an issue with him. Uh is a 731 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: guy that can take out number one receivers on a 732 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: good day. But now because they signed Drumaine Johnson, you 733 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: slide Claiborne to the number two guy. You roll him 734 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: over there, which is a nice fit for him. He 735 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: got the two young safeties West. We talked about it 736 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, building this identity. You were a little bit 737 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: on the fence about it. But they are building something 738 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: and they have a defensive minded coach with secondary background. 739 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: I really like what they're doing back there. Yeah, I 740 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: do too on paper. The next step is to actually 741 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: stop receivers. Yeah, and get a pass right and get 742 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: a pass stay two. And I was gonna ask you, 743 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,760 Speaker 1: if I know you think you have to go quarterback, 744 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: then at number six, what if there's a run on 745 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and you have a choice between the third or 746 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth quarterback or I'd say third or fourth 747 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: or Bradley Chubb. I wonder if that it very Jets 748 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: like moved that's on a quarterback and take him instead. 749 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: I would be stunned if they didn't take Chub. If 750 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: he was there, and let's say three of the four quarters, well, 751 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: you don't know who they actually love, but if they 752 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: are not in love with the guys that are left, 753 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: Chub makes all the sense in the world. They have 754 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: not had a true pass rusher since John Abraham, that 755 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: is forever. But the Jets are getting better in the 756 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: back end of their defense. That's good. And uh, I 757 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: would love Honey Badger there. They they have Buster Screen. Now, 758 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: who slides into a Nickel Corner roll, but he's owed 759 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: seven million dollars. They can get out of that deal, 760 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: and you give imagine that that's an identity was now 761 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: now I would be on board, but that is their identity. 762 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: If they switched out Buster Screen for Honeymoon. They try 763 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: to have a nickname for their secondary or something. Last 764 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: year they stou it was the Eagles stole their identity 765 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: before turning before the start wearing dog mass anyone else 766 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: you'd like to pilfer from Jamal Adams, who is one 767 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: of is one of my favorite follows on social media. 768 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: He's referring to the secondary is New Jack City, which 769 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 1: that's original, but it's it's a rule in the NFL. 770 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 1: You cannot have a secondary with the Ram. The Rams 771 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: need one the Ram. The Rats coming for the Rams 772 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: when you have a keep to leave and together. Yeah, 773 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: if they get honey Badger their New Jack City, all right, 774 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm on board riding on this. And they did try to, 775 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: or at least the Jets social media tried to get 776 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,959 Speaker 1: no fly zone going and was like, what why would 777 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: they even do that? I don't we can't come up 778 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: with thirty two original names for the answer is it's 779 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: a it's a twenty three year old intern that has 780 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: something that's trying to kill time in May. Just go 781 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: back and look at eighties sports posters and you get 782 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: all kinds of ideas for nicknames. That's true. Moving on, 783 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: Tyler Eiffert is sticking around in Cincinnati. He signs a 784 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: one year deal max value of eight million. This makes 785 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: sense for player and team. Cincinnati keeps a tight end 786 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: with high upside. Ifort's still just twenty seven years old, 787 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: uh gets a chance to kind of re establish his 788 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: value after two years that have been wrecked by injury. 789 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: They need ifor to matter, Andy Dalton needs help to 790 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: to be where he was a couple of years ago. 791 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: So they need If they need Cordy Glenn to be 792 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: healthy and play well at left tackle or else, the 793 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: Bengals are going to be fairly unwatchable again. Well, they're 794 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: on my radar in a good way for an offense 795 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: that could bounce back in a hurry. If Corty Glenn 796 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: is the guy the Bills thought they were signing a 797 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: few years ago. If he's that guy John Ross who 798 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: won't get any hype because his rookie year was so disappointing. 799 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: He could be a difference maker. I for if healthy 800 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: is a difference maker. Joe Mixon is gonna play better 801 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: with an improved offensive line. I think they have a 802 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: lot of as a great guy to have. I think, 803 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: especially not as your starts. There's a lot of room 804 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: for improvement on this team. Let's wrap it up with 805 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: a little eight o'clock to light. The Redskins resigned Zach Brown, 806 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 1: the linebacker, a deal three years, twenty four million, number 807 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: nine team on the top of one. Greg I like him. 808 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: The Texans resigned Jonathan him. I like Zach Brown. I 809 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: figured you have something to say on everybody. Texans cornerback 810 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: Jonathan Joseph, he's sticking around in Houston. The cornerback signs 811 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: a two year deal. Your thoughts, Mark Sessler, thirty three 812 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: years old. This secondary was hot garbage last year. It's 813 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: a good thing they got Aaron Colvin. If he can help. 814 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 1: They need more help. The Texans do lose c J. Fedorowitz, 815 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: the tight end who's dealt with concussions. He retires west 816 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: aged six or concussions over a calendar year from December 817 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: sixteen to December seventeen um and the Texans have had 818 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: They've been obliterated by concussions at tight end. Stephen Anderson 819 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: had him in September last year. Bryan Griffin their backup 820 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: tight end. His season ended in November due to concussions. 821 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: It's a position they have to address. And finally, the 822 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: Vikings made it official. I guess whatever restaurant they took 823 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,959 Speaker 1: her Cousins too was appropriate. It was the Capital Grill, 824 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: the most generic stay play. Send the bids, give me 825 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 1: a break, I mean Capital Girls. Fine, Kirk Cousins in 826 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: a favor. Let's get some spice into this so it 827 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: Cousin's officially under contract. I mean, that is not the 828 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: place you take a guy who doesn't want to eat. 829 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: I mean he couldn't wait until the song was over. Okay, 830 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: now you can say what you're saying. Already said it, okay. Uh. 831 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: Speaking of Kirk Cousins, this is what he said during 832 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: his opening press conference today, which kind of struck me 833 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: as funny. You know, I look forward to playing here, 834 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: as you know Rick said yesterday. You know this is 835 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: a lifetime deal. No it's not. I just want to 836 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: add that. Can I say, you know, can I take 837 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: exception with this notion that Kirk Cousins is some mercenary 838 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: who will always take the highest money. It goes against 839 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: every stated fact from his relationship with the Redskins and 840 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 1: what everyone expected him to do. He had a chance 841 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: to draw in three teams and raise his price tag, 842 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: and he didn't do it well. He went to the 843 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 1: team that he thought had the best chance to win. Uh, 844 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: he was committed to the red Skins. They were not 845 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: committed to him. He would have signed if they wouldn't have, 846 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 1: if they wouldn't have kind of dilly dally for two 847 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: years and trying to figure out who he was. I 848 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: think Kirk Cousins, he's made it clear that he's not 849 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: about the money, and I think his actions have shown 850 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: Jets offered more. So that tells you that right there. 851 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: I hope. I hope for his case though and his kids, 852 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: that it's not a lifetime contract, because we want Kurt 853 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: to be alive more than three years. You know what 854 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's I mean, that's you're right. Let's let's 855 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: keep Cousins alive for another fifty years or so. Ian 856 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: Rappaport is a little much. Tom Pellisero who has been 857 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: on the Cousins beat this week, gave gave some news 858 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 1: which I had not heard until today about how the 859 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: contracts all played out. Their agent Weston, You're right, they 860 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: could have tried to make it bigger and bigger. They 861 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,959 Speaker 1: basically said, give us your best offers right off the top, 862 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,280 Speaker 1: and they got three offers from one from the Cardinals, 863 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: one from the Jets, one from the Vikings. It's believed 864 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: that the Jets did have the highest offer, but it 865 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: was structured a little different. Cardinals were in the same 866 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: ballpark of the Vikings, but that basically they were all 867 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: very similar contract offers. There wasn't one team that went crazy, 868 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: blowing out of the water. I think it was pretty 869 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: similar in terms of and he and he chose, and 870 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: he decided to the Vikings. His agent made it clear 871 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: that it wasn't even close to the best offer he 872 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: put that out yesterday, and that he has self interest 873 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: to do that. I I definitely trust Tom Moore. The 874 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: mercenary would be you go sign with a garbage for 875 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 1: more money and here that's clearly not what he's and 876 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: keep playing that game of like okay, this guy, you know. 877 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: Mercenary would incite a bidding more and he did the 878 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: opposite of inciting a bidding war. I think he did. Okay. 879 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: No matter what the yes, I want to guarantee, I'm saying, 880 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: the speculation or the discussion is dramatically misinformed on this issue. 881 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: And to your point, where DeMarco Murray hit free agency 882 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: in the open market at the wrong time over and 883 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: over and paid for it. Kirk Cousins, in a very 884 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 1: unusual situation, could not have timed this any better. Right now, 885 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: he probably would have rather have signed a long term 886 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: deal with the Redskins years ago. They handled that so 887 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: poorly that here you go, he got paid good. I 888 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: mean in mercenary is unfair to any professional athlete where 889 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,320 Speaker 1: that it's so tilted in in favor of the owners 890 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 1: and in the team it is you're talking about guys 891 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,240 Speaker 1: getting You can't be on the same side that says 892 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: great value, great great deal and then blame a player 893 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: for doing the same in trying to get them. Um, 894 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: let's do some winners and losers. Since we're on the topic, 895 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: I'll throw out a winner for me, and it is 896 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: franchise quarterbacks. There is this idea and I get it 897 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: that this this fully guaranteed Kirk Cousin contract won't really 898 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: change anything because this was a specific instance and all that. However, UH, 899 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: don't be surprised. I like when Aaron Rodgers deal comes up, 900 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 1: or when the next when Sam Donald's deal if he's 901 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: a star, comes up. If they if they rather do 902 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: something like this where you play out your rookie deal, 903 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: you get a max uh franchise tag two years in 904 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: a row, and then signed the three year deal because 905 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: not only make a maximum amount of money there, then 906 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 1: you hit free agency again when you're in your late twenties. 907 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: Potentially what you're seeing with some of these guys like 908 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: true Maine Johnson, I think that, uh, this was a 909 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 1: big deal, this fully guaranteed contract, and I do think 910 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: it will have an effect and people look back at 911 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: it as a game changer. For the guys that have 912 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: the most leverage, which is the franchise quarterback, they start 913 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,479 Speaker 1: they're gonna start dictating terms and changing the game because 914 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: of what Cousins did. I hear you, I gotta loser 915 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: and this got hammered on NFL never care, so I'm 916 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: almost a little bored by it. But but it does 917 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: stand out to me. Because it was a team with 918 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: a lot of cap room and a lot of distinct needs, 919 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 1: and I thought the Colts would be more active. I 920 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: thought they would they would have found a way to 921 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: learn more people to that organization, and they really They 922 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: added I think one defensive end who is relatively in 923 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: the no name category, So they got a lot to 924 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: do in the draft. Why would you want to go 925 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: there if you're an offensive player and the franchise quarterback 926 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: is just a complete mystery if I'm a wide receiver, 927 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 1: if I'm a bit of a gamble, but if he's 928 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: health you also. I mean half of their needs to 929 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 1: me came on defense. I mean they just they they 930 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: let some people walk out and they didn't get much 931 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: back in return. West loser John Elway I mentioned this 932 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: on our last podcast. But they're in a super Bowl window, 933 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 1: and dang your point about franchise quarterbacks, their value is 934 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: beyond calculable. In today's NFL. The only thing that matters 935 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: is whether you're the answer or not when you're talking 936 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 1: about team team building. That's why Kirk Cousins is so 937 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: much more valuable than Case Keenom. He's done this for 938 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 1: three years. We know he's the answer. We don't know 939 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: of case Keenum's the answer. He's a mystery. And all 940 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: of your nucleus players spent the last three months working 941 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 1: themselves into a fervor over Kirk Cousins. You heard Von 942 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: Miller say, you heard Brandon Marshall say it, you heard 943 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 1: their defensive back say it, we want Kirk Cousins, and 944 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 1: then you go out and get case Keenum, a guy who, 945 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: to me, it's so dependent on what's around him, he's 946 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: not gonna lift anyone higher. It felt like a spin 947 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: by Elway when he came out and said this week, 948 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 1: we got our guy, because we all know what you 949 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: really wanted, and you got the guy that is frankly 950 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 1: unproven beyond one magic three month stretch another guy, and 951 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: you didn't get Tyrode either, who was reported they also 952 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 1: might have wanted. I'll give wide receivers as a as 953 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 1: a winner in general, because this is a position that's 954 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: been relatively underpaid compared to lineman in in previous years. 955 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,439 Speaker 1: But wide receivers got paid. Wide receivers coming off bad years, 956 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: are injured years got paid. Allan Robinson and Sammy Watkins 957 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 1: got paid full price, despite red flags which means the 958 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: legit number one receivers out there, like a J Greener, 959 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, when they do deals like they're gonna go 960 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,720 Speaker 1: way on top of them. And then even the secondary receivers. 961 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean Taylor Gabriel. I like Taylor Gabriel, but he 962 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: got fourteen million guaranteed. He's never had more than six 963 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards. He he is by definition a 964 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: role player. Paul Richardson has less career yards than Eric 965 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: Ebron and he got paid big time money. Marquis Lee 966 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: has had it up and down career. He got paid 967 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: big time. Mind. I'm not even saying that these are 968 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,919 Speaker 1: bad signings, but just the whole wide receiver market kind 969 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: of went up, and and that's gonna have repercussions when 970 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: legit top twenty, top twenty five receivers start, you know, 971 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: getting new contracts. Do you think this is because general 972 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: managers are not as confident about drafting wide receivers and 973 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,439 Speaker 1: getting an immediate The record of recent first round wide 974 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 1: receivers is not good, and this draft class is not 975 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: supposed to be that that great at wide receiver. Yeah, 976 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: I think I think that's a great point and it 977 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: explains it and and that they were the It was 978 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 1: one of the positions that was just out there in 979 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 1: deep so the teams wanted to spend it on someone 980 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: one more quick winner loser. I'll start the Chicago Bears fans. Yes, 981 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: finally that team has a little juice to them. I 982 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: think they're doing a nice job copying the Rams model 983 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: and bringing some talent around Mitch Drabinski. Now we just 984 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 1: gotta find out if that kid can play, can that 985 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,320 Speaker 1: dog hunt? I'll give you a winner. I think Brandon 986 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 1: being the Bills GM. They have not had a quarterback 987 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 1: since Jim Kelly essentially, and you have over the course 988 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,879 Speaker 1: of two off seasons, given yourself with your draft hall 989 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: a chance. And I I don't question at all that 990 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: this is their strategy to get into the top five 991 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 1: and get the quarterback of your choice, and you can 992 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: change that organization to be the guy that changed it 993 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: for the next They need to find somebody. All trade 994 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 1: they do, but they put themselves a position for They 995 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: telegraphed it. Whether that's good or bad, you know what 996 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,760 Speaker 1: they're trying to do. I would make a J McCarron 997 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: a loser though, because I think if Sam Bradford didn't 998 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: you know if Sam Bradford ends up getting twenty million 999 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: fifteen million. I think McCarron was hopeful to be one 1000 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: of those five quarterbacks that kind of filled the slot, 1001 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: and he got mid to low level backup money two years, 1002 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: ten million, which makes all the sense in the world 1003 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,359 Speaker 1: for Buffalo. But if you're a J McCarron, now you're 1004 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 1: gonna deal with the rookie. It's like Brian Dable is 1005 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: a brand new offensive coordinator. I don't know if he's 1006 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: really set up for success, piggy backing off your bears point. 1007 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: Mitch Drabinsky and Patrick Holmes to me are the biggest 1008 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 1: winners of free agency. And in Trabinsky's case, he looks 1009 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 1: so much like a candidate to Paula Jared goff with 1010 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: from the new head coach to the surrounding talent to 1011 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: there's so many similarities there. Patrick Holmes, their GM has 1012 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: already come out and said, this guy is one of 1013 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: the best players I've ever seen. Then they traded an 1014 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: m v P candidate to open up a space for him, 1015 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 1: went out and got Sammy Watkins for him. Uh. To me, 1016 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: this this is they're they're making Patrick mahomes like the 1017 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 1: centerpiece of their franchise. Uh. And piggybacking up a mark. 1018 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: I think the Bills, Okay, that's a winner. But the 1019 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 1: Giants and Colts with those two draft picks and so 1020 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: many teams still needing quarterbacks, they're winners too. They're gonna 1021 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: get a lot of bigger people are gonna want to 1022 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,839 Speaker 1: trade up for quarterbacks now. Uh. Subscribe to the Around 1023 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,439 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast on Apple Podcasts and Google Play, little 1024 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: Google Play, pop in a big spot and you can 1025 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,399 Speaker 1: check us out on Spotify. You can get us there 1026 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: now as well. Also leave us a review if you'd like, uh, 1027 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: five stars. 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The 1045 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 1: stand hands is signing off for a quiet storm, the mailman, 1046 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: the old Boss, Miss money Bags behind the glass. I 1047 00:54:45,640 --> 00:55:08,839 Speaker 1: haven't seen a time yet. Let's see Fulton behind the glass.