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Speaker 2: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, we're talking all

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Speaker 2: offense and we're talking about what the air rate actually is. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: everyone says Cliff Kingsbury's air rate guy. Yeah, what does

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Speaker 2: that mean? Then? How is he going to change that

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Speaker 2: starts right now. Welcome Command Center Podcast. I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: Paulson here with Friendswood and Santana Moss. Guys, super juice

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Speaker 2: to be here for this show. That's something going.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, everything's good man, life is great, life is great,

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Speaker 3: summer hair lips. He come on, miss some of all

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Speaker 3: the new shows out. You're relax and you get ready and.

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Speaker 4: Ain't quite from ball was coming? But what you know

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Speaker 4: is there almost here? Absolutely, this is almost here. What

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Speaker 5: It's already here. Yeah no, no, it's already here.

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Speaker 2: Brother, You're so late, so late, But I thought, But

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm excited about is that this new podcast,

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Speaker 2: Hall's Tales.

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Speaker 5: Oh right, what a name?

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Speaker 2: What a name?

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Speaker 5: Who named it?

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Speaker 2: Probably Jason?

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Speaker 5: It probably would was it.

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Speaker 6: Hearing that Hannah came out with it.

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Speaker 5: I don't know it was Jason.

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Speaker 2: Hannah's doing an awesome job. So last week we did

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Speaker 2: the hiring of Joe Gibbs, which is a great episode.

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Speaker 2: All good nuggets from that one that you like.

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Speaker 6: Uh yeah, yeah, no, no, I do. I like when

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Speaker 6: Joe Gibbs got the call to meet Jack Can Cook

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Speaker 6: and they went to New York called him to his

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Speaker 6: and Cook pointed out the window of the building to

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Speaker 6: Joe Gibbs and said, see that building over there. He pointed,

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Speaker 6: dear christis building because I own that. So anything you

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Speaker 6: want you tell me, I can get it.

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Speaker 2: That's a crazy flex. That is the craziest flex you imagine.

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Speaker 3: Not really like, are you going to do the re

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Speaker 5: First of all, coach already said it in his own words,

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Speaker 3: Coach Gibbs said, I was sitting at home with my

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Speaker 5: What happened? Spur to quit on you? Who year? What

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Speaker 5: Like the on the person can save us, it's Coach Gibbs.

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Speaker 2: If he come back, you did actually call him?

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Speaker 3: No, He sitting there with his wife and he said,

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Speaker 3: I have been, I've been, hadn't been wanting to coach

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Speaker 4: And Joe and Joe's son wanted to get in the football.

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Speaker 3: Like know what I did was you gotta realize, Spur

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Speaker 5: Right there on the spot, Mike, in my face, who

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Speaker 3: Joe ain't told me he been talking about this because

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Speaker 5: What you're gonna talk to it about?

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Speaker 2: You just said some stuff.

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Speaker 3: I freed the story up, they said, you know. Two

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Speaker 5: What up, coach? He gonna coach it. Yeah, I'm back

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Speaker 5: Don't worry.

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Speaker 3: I'd be back from Missippi and today that come here,

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Speaker 5: So I was held right there an that hell TiAl.

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Speaker 2: So that's last week's episode. This week's episode is the

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Speaker 2: art of Special Teams. And basically that's how George Allen

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Speaker 2: put the special in special teams.

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Speaker 6: All right, that's that's what it's all about, making special

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Anything good, any any good nuggets that should look out for.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, not necessarily. I just talked about you know,

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Speaker 5: So we we made plans to stop be Mitch when

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Speaker 2: You played against mit I just told you that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 4: In that green net Philly uniform and big old shower pass.

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Speaker 4: it was crazy because you know, now we talk about

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Speaker 4: that stuff and I'm like, that's crazy. How you just

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Speaker 2: Ye absolutely, And this is.

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Speaker 6: In the seventies when Georgia Allen but b Mitch is

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Speaker 6: interviewed in this because the ripple effect of it works,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, So that those are awesome podcasts again,

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Speaker 2: Commanders fans, make sure you check it out. Those are great.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I can't wait to listen every week. I'm

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Speaker 2: waiting with baited breath to check them out. All right.

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Speaker 2: So the next thing is training camp. Right, we don't

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Speaker 2: have the dates yet, but you can go to the

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Speaker 2: website Commanders dot com reserve tickets. It's free. Come on

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Speaker 2: out watch practice. We Santana, Fred, myself, Jesse, Guy, Jason

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Speaker 2: training camp. Come by the show. We have free merch

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Speaker 2: see what all the excitements about really is what we're

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Speaker 5: If you're not excited about this, you need.

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Speaker 4: Every year you get a new leash on to whatever

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Speaker 2: That is cool, but also you go to man, man,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So in kind of preparation training camp, I think

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Speaker 2: we should start. We did our defensive show last week,

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Speaker 2: talked about Joe Whitt Junior's defense, the evolution of Dan's defense.

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Speaker 2: That was a really fun conversation, and so we figured

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Speaker 2: why not do the same thing this week with the offense. Specifically,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk high level offense. We're gonna be a

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Speaker 2: and I guess Tanny you can answer this first question

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Speaker 2: because you are kind of our offensive expert. Here is

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Speaker 2: what makes a good offensive scheme. You've played a lot

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Speaker 4: Think a good offense? Taylor's their style to play around

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Speaker 4: We knew the offense can be dynamic, but to change

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Speaker 2: How about you, Fred, When you're playing against an offense,

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Speaker 3: Now we're guessing it. Guess what you guess long you

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Speaker 3: I would say one thing is unique talent and unique caller.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with that on hundred percent. I think it

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It's just I've stressed your defensive

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Speaker 2: And then to your point, Tanna like, I'm not going

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get bunchies. I want bunches.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, figure this out, communicate this. We're gonna

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: That was the whole thing with Kyle Shanahan and Mike

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Speaker 2: And they couldn't deal with it. So again, there's different

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Speaker 2: I think it can be tailored to your offensive personnel. Right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, you know, I got here No. Five and

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Speaker 4: I mean, we would literally watch the film. They'll watch

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I look at you know offense, and I

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Speaker 3: He was gonna switch because he's the threat, he's not

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Speaker 5: You handled their body back in the back. So it's

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Speaker 2: the offense, you have to see it the same, you

439
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean, You have to see it the same.

440
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 2: You have to see the coverages the same and it's

441
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 2: much more. I think defense is extremely cohesive. But like

442
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,720
Speaker 2: if you see if intend like, it's been fun watching

443
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,639
Speaker 2: you run choices and stuff over the course of your

444
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,000
Speaker 2: career because it's like, if you see the coverage correctly

445
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,440
Speaker 2: and you see it the same way as the quarterback,

446
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 2: the defense can't stop you.

447
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,879
Speaker 4: Prime example, that a good time. Jason Kelsey, Kelsey and

448
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 4: your boy they see it like the same. Like Kelsey

449
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,639
Speaker 4: has a quarterback mentality when he run his routes, he

450
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 4: knowing what the quarterback see with his back to He

451
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 4: played quarterback in college. Bingo. Jordan Reed too, so Jordan

452
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 4: Reed was like that. And another guy justin Jefferson and

453
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,160
Speaker 4: your boy Logan I mean Savante Adams. Although they see

454
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 4: coverages like that, you know, the quarterback they can see

455
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 4: it and while they enter the route running the route,

456
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 4: they feel and see it the way the quarterbacks see

457
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 4: it in the pocket. See what I'm saying. And everyone

458
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,919
Speaker 4: don't have their gifts, you know what I mean. Everyone

459
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 4: will have their gift. Now I will say I have

460
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 4: the feel of knowing that Okay, this is zone, so

461
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 4: I need to sit here, you know, what I'm saying,

462
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 4: or this is man, I need to keep running. You

463
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying. You get the feel. All us

464
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 4: have that feel. But these guys some are reasons they

465
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 4: see it the same way, because it's almost like effortlessly

466
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 4: the quarterback and them on the same page.

467
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Speaker 3: They themself, if I was throwing this thing right now,

468
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 3: what would I want my person to do?

469
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Speaker 5: I think that's what they accident.

470
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Speaker 4: They did a repetition to the years of just saying, hey, Luke.

471
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Speaker 3: McCaffrey play quarterbacks. So that's why he probably got that

472
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Speaker 3: touch already to ooh, this is a zone I'm not

473
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Speaker 3: finna go run to. I'm finna curl up right now.

474
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Speaker 3: I think it's like I said, if that timing is

475
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,239
Speaker 3: to the t, we will have problems, but we can

476
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Speaker 3: find ways to kind.

477
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Speaker 5: Of moved it.

478
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 3: But once two guys got a connection, and they don't

479
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: run stuff by the rule no more. This slam route

480
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 3: supposed to be broken at sam Yaard's too tight.

481
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Speaker 5: I'm running them at five.

482
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 4: You see Kelsey all the time, run his route and

483
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 4: then just leak out.

484
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Speaker 5: We got going, all right. I'm not going to just

485
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Speaker 5: know like.

486
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Speaker 4: Here, I don't I don't got them all to come

487
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Speaker 4: here because I sat down. Now, I'm not going there,

488
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,479
Speaker 4: but I'm not giving them a knowing Pattistan on a run,

489
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Speaker 4: he gonna hit him.

490
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's a that's also an interesting point.

491
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 2: It's like, even though a route's drawing a certain way

492
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Speaker 2: on paper, you got to run it to make it

493
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Speaker 2: come to life. Yes, you know what I'm saying. Like,

494
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Speaker 2: let's say I'm the backside dig and it's cover three

495
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Speaker 2: and I've got a little five yard underneath me, right,

496
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Speaker 2: so we're gonna space it. I'm not gonna I don't

497
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Speaker 2: want to run a straight stem dig because I'm never

498
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: gonna show up in that guard tackle bubble. I need

499
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Speaker 2: to inside stem, push vertical and then get in. But

500
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 2: that comes from instinct and feel and like again, that's

501
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 2: where it's like, if your high school kid watching this,

502
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: you got to understand like the levels of the timing,

503
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: because you can do what you want as long as

504
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Speaker 2: you get to your spot. Like listen, I went down

505
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 2: to tight end, I went to I went to tight

506
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: end you and I heard Travis Kelsey talked about this.

507
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: He's like, as long as you get to where you're

508
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: supposed to be to distribute the field and distribute the

509
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 2: concept because ultimately we're trying to stress defenses. Right, So

510
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: if there's two guys in one spot, we're not stretching,

511
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 2: don't take conventional road. Yeah, but if I can get

512
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 2: there and I'm stressing a high low on the corner

513
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 2: or a highlow on the backer, like it's a win. Yeah,

514
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 2: and I get and I get productive. So that's again

515
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 2: like we're really good offenses. Like it's the paper, it's

516
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: the scheme on paper, but it's the players, the Jimmy's

517
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 2: and Joe's and how they see it and feel it

518
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: and make them really Chad.

519
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Speaker 5: Johnson and speak.

520
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you I have chased Chad justin be like,

521
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 3: go back to the how to Dude, you know that

522
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Speaker 3: ain't no route.

523
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Speaker 5: Like, dude, you know that ain't no route?

524
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Speaker 4: Right, make up some get this, but.

525
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 5: I got to my spot.

526
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Speaker 2: Is how you need to worry about in the timing

527
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Speaker 2: of the play too.

528
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Speaker 3: And guess what costs a Palmer new Cha gonna take

529
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Speaker 3: He might take a back row, but he gonna get

530
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 3: exactly to the house he's supposed.

531
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Speaker 5: To get to.

532
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Speaker 4: A prime example, I got shoot out in a practice

533
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 4: and it's crazy.

534
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Speaker 3: Man.

535
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 4: Big ups to a guy Wayinger Bet for letting me

536
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 4: know that Tanner, you're not wrong. And I knew I

537
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: wasn't wrong for the sake fath, I was just young.

538
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 4: And I love telling this story because you know, I

539
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 4: learned this in college. That's why I was able to

540
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 4: do this. My receiver coach, Curtis Johnson, man, he's one

541
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 4: of the best. He also coached in New Orleans when

542
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 4: they won Super Bowl or he was the wide receiver

543
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 4: coach there, turned that receiver group around, and now he's

544
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 4: the head coach in Houston with the UFL. But he

545
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 4: told me, Tanna, you're different from everybody else. You can

546
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 4: do all this stuff at the line of scrimmage because

547
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 4: you fast. So when you run your route, I don't

548
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,959
Speaker 4: mind you putting a little twist to it because as

549
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 4: long as you get you can make up that speed.

550
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 4: You can make up that time and with your speed,

551
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 4: so I'm in practice. Paul Hackett. I never forget this,

552
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 4: and it's probably one of the reason why I always

553
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 4: looked at Paul Hackett differently, you know what I mean.

554
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 4: I respect him, but I never understood him after this,

555
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 4: because no coach should have that kind of say or

556
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 4: input off or try to have that kind of input

557
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 4: when the receiver is doing his job. Any player that's

558
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 4: doing his job, you should never look at him and say,

559
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 4: I don't want you doing this, because that's not how

560
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: I coach it. No, if he making a play, you

561
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 4: should want him to make it a play every time.

562
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 4: Long story. Sure, I'm running the dig rope. Back in

563
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: the day we had that not that incut dig route,

564
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 4: that one toteen the sixteen yards, sit down, dig and

565
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 4: you know on paper they got this thing drawn up.

566
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 4: You're gonna run fourteen to fifteen yards, make your and

567
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 4: come back to the ball. Now, if a guy sitting

568
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 4: back there in cover three, what you're gonna do. You're

569
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 4: gonna get him off his spot right as a corner.

570
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 4: I can't just run that route in front of you.

571
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 4: You're gonna be over with my back and I have

572
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 4: no chance, especially if I know that I'm the guy

573
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 4: that they trying to get the ball to. I need

574
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 4: to get some separation. So what I did put a

575
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 4: little twist to it. I run twelve yards. I put

576
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 4: my foot in the inside of the corner. Knowing how

577
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 4: he was sitting at like I was running a go

578
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 4: route and turn his hips when he turned at fifteen,

579
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Speaker 4: I sat down, came back, beautiful route easy. Everybody was

580
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: in practice. Who Paul Hackett throws his clipboard over there

581
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 4: at me, don't run, and I.

582
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 5: Don't coach that.

583
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there like, did I do wrong?

584
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: You know?

585
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 5: He had me please, but that's what I That's how

586
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 5: I felt.

587
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there like what did I do?

588
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 5: And so he chewed me out.

589
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 4: And I'm a young guy. I'm probably my second year

590
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 4: in the league. And Wayne Gerbat said, look here, that

591
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 4: was a beautiful route. I can't do it. Coach said,

592
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 4: I say, I can't do it either. He said, do

593
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 4: it again, Tanner. That's how you run your route. And

594
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 4: that's what he gonna do. Fast forward the same week,

595
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 4: play the Miami Dolphins, Pat thirteen. I got the clip

596
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: I got that it might be somewhere on my phone.

597
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 4: He sit identical in between fifteen and sixteen yards. Wasn't

598
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 4: gonna move because he knew he had trusting those guys.

599
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 4: Getting a feel. I did the same thing, turned his hips,

600
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 4: came back, caught the ball, went eighty. He said, I

601
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 4: can't coach, She's a kid, and I was shocked because

602
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, I made the play.

603
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 5: It's coaches like we all have cut and not to

604
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 5: just you.

605
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 4: Know, hey, maybe you coach are the guys that listen

606
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 4: to you. I'm not trying to be all disopen. I'm

607
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 4: just trying to do what's going to make me get separation.

608
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: And how I was taught to run route.

609
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: You know it's wild, though, is that's how everyone runs

610
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: around now, every single person. You want to burst the

611
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: blinds first.

612
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 4: To the blind side and come and snap back down.

613
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: And you saw me do this for years. You see

614
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I never changed. It was just

615
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: a guy didn't like the way I did things.

616
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 5: So and I always tell by coaching success what happens

617
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 5: after that.

618
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 4: But it bothered me to the point. It bothered me

619
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 4: when when I when I actually left from there, I

620
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 4: knew why I was really leaving. You can't you can't

621
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 4: leave in the prime. I'm left. I love my prime

622
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 4: A thousand yards one year. The next year I leave

623
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 4: the team with eight hundred something yards because and y'all

624
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 4: not trying to get me the ball and have the

625
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 4: most touchdowns. And ran a punt back in that same

626
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: playoff and then I'm gone and I'm saying to myself, see,

627
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 4: and I had a little birdie that that was on

628
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 4: the other side of our defense that told me say, man,

629
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 4: but he just don't like you. And I say, fine,

630
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 4: that's because I'm gonna go where I'm loved that.

631
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying now, it's serious because I

632
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: had coaches trying to change my game, like I've I

633
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: had that before, and I'm like, no, I'm not doing it.

634
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 5: Like I'm like, I'm like this.

635
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: So, just getting back to what we was talking about,

636
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 4: just the offensive, I think that what makes these offenses,

637
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: especially when they're able to mold and say let's do

638
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 4: what this guy, especially at you know what I mean,

639
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 4: let's go, let's let's let's work and say, okay, let's

640
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 4: use that because he has a skill set that can be.

641
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: Effective enough to make with other stuff that he ain't good.

642
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: That's what I've always battled with when it comes to goads.

643
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: And I think that's a perfect segue, honestly, Tanna into

644
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: the air raid. It's one of the things about the

645
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: air raid. Let's just talk about it real quick. So

646
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: that came around, you know, Basically, they said, we're gonna

647
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: get more speed on the field. We're gonna horizontally distribute

648
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: the field based on formation right at the gate right

649
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: instead of being in this tight formation with the tight

650
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: ends and the fullbacks run to get receivers out there,

651
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 2: move them out.

652
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 5: We're gonna have more speed period and have.

653
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: Bad coverage players cover good route runners, yes, and force

654
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: them to change their personnel. We're going to operate with

655
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: up tempo to make them to regulate the defense from

656
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: a coverage standpoint, from a front standpoint. So they run

657
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: the same thing. But the thing that I think people

658
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: sleep on when it comes to the air raid, it's

659
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: like they run mesh. So basically the way they run meshes,

660
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: imagine two by two. They cross the inside guys, the

661
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: two outside guys run big outs okay pre snap. Basically

662
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: they allow a lot of flexibility on that big out

663
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: stem and if the guys inside leverage, I'm throwing the

664
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: big out pre snap on the quarterback right boom right

665
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: there at the jump. Let's say I'm running the mesh

666
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: and they're in zone, I can sit down. That's how

667
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: we run mesh with Kyle everybody. But let's say the

668
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: guy matches aggressively cuts the mesh. I can take it

669
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: over top of that one yea. And those are all

670
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: the same play, running the same call effectively, And it's

671
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: just they can adjust within the play because they only

672
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: have like ten plays in the offense.

673
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 5: But morphs it it's like a tree.

674
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: It's similar to what it's similar to what RG Threedom

675
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: ran in Baylor because if you watch it was basically

676
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: they was running a go route or sit down or

677
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 4: come back that.

678
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: So again this is like sorry, Nerdy, Nerdy's talking going

679
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: So that's the deep option route that they're not running

680
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: in Tennessee. Yeah, So there's not really that element. It's

681
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: the it's the flexibility you're talking about within the route,

682
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like it's it's it's like, hey,

683
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: I'm running a comeback, yeah, but I can get there

684
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: how I want to.

685
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 5: Tennessee is so predeterminate simple.

686
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying. It's it's a different offensive tree.

687
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: And the air rate is like, hey, we got ten plays,

688
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: but we've got hey, but if they run it, if

689
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: they run two man, we're gonna run our mesh like this. Yeah,

690
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna run out like this. You know what I'm saying. Oh,

691
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: if it's cover two and are running four verts like,

692
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: that's where you get the benders and the vertical and

693
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: how that self attack to. So I think when people

694
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: hear air raid, they think, oh my gosh, it's so simple.

695
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: It is simple, but there's a lot of complexity in

696
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: each play and the other thing I want to point out,

697
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: just to make it perfect with here, every team in

698
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: the NFL runs air raid concepts.

699
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 5: Thank you.

700
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: I'm about to say everything anything three four wide receivers

701
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: plus uh, let me take this tight end out just

702
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: running back out of substitute speed is everybody got an

703
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: air raid package.

704
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 5: Let's just be honest from the.

705
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: Time all go and comebacks our first First, I.

706
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 5: Think air raid is anything with speed and tempo. When

707
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 5: I say speed, I mean speed in uh the Jimmy

708
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 5: and Joe's offenses area.

709
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: Think about the running shoe the Houston at that was

710
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: air raid any Finally, think about Pete tom Brady.

711
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: All right, have you read that article about him? So

712
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to cut you out. They had Wes Welker there. Yeah,

713
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: they said they took I think it was every single

714
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: play from the from the air raid because they had

715
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: Wes Welker and then we could run them all and

716
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: we're just like, this is our hurry up offense.

717
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 5: I played against him, Listen, I played against how like dude?

718
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 5: I have played Guess this office before three years ago,

719
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 5: years ago. They're going to get the ball moving here.

720
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: But they I like they touched what they did on

721
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: the air rate because they said, you know what, talk

722
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: about New England because they said, you know what we're

723
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: gonna do, speed and power. That's when they started with

724
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 3: the double tight. And when they did with the double tight,

725
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: we can miss with we can miss up with everything else.

726
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 5: But we didn't have that safety lineback of hybrid that

727
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 5: we needed for grunk. We ain't had it.

728
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so again, what's what's the core tenet of offense?

729
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: Like we just talked about, it's to find mismatches and

730
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: stress the defense. So all they did is they said, hey, man,

731
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: like everyone's running like triple option power. This is when

732
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: michae Leach and what's the other guy's name? How mummy

733
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: was Kentucky And they were like, shoot, man, we can't

734
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: find all these big tight ends in full back.

735
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 5: We can't find his running back seed they're not coming

736
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 5: to context.

737
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: So shoot, let's just find another receiver, yeah, and put

738
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: him out there, find a quarterback and make it easy priests,

739
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: because that's the other thing. When you dispersed the field

740
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: and you can talk about this from yeah, you can't

741
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: disguise coverages the same way.

742
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: No, we can't rock and roll. The safeties can't move.

743
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: The offense paralyzes us. You got to get to your point,

744
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: You got to get to your mesh point. And now

745
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: the only thing you could do is what we did

746
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: when I was at Missisp Mistake. It was all blitzing team,

747
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: so we weren't trying to hide anything, Like you knew

748
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: what a hot.

749
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 5: Read and you knew where everything was going. But what

750
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 5: makes it hard, I think to me is the tempo.

751
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: Even if you stop and play, they right back up,

752
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: like right back, right back, like they're gonna get you eventually.

753
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: That that what made their run game for the air

754
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: RAI so efficient, because now you got these spread out

755
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 4: offense that now they got everybody up in space and back.

756
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 4: Then I'm not sure if they do that, and I'm

757
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: sure they don't do it now. They had a lot

758
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: they had wider spirits at the line of scrimmage. Crazy

759
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 4: crazy now that can't get it. They can't get off,

760
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So now you you're basically

761
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 4: taking gaps or you're getting you're getting gas gas, trying

762
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 4: to find a word. You're getting gashed. Man five and

763
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 4: six yards of run and you out there, you out

764
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 4: there leaking because you're tied, you know what I mean,

765
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: running up and down, can't can't get a break, can't

766
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 4: get in the huddle.

767
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: And it's so easy again with those wide splits and

768
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: the splits for the offensive line and the receivers to

769
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: look at and be, like we talked about on the

770
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: Defensive Show, how you want to make sure you're even

771
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: in the run fit. You know what I'm saying. If

772
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: I'm spread out and I got a back in the backfield,

773
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: I got five gaps defensive, I got to negotiating. But

774
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: I have the running back who's his own gap, Because

775
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: you want you want to be plus ones, you need

776
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: six guys in the box. But if I got all

777
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: this speed as the hooked player, I got.

778
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 5: To push to the speed I'm worried about him before

779
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 5: I'm worried too.

780
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: And so if I'm the quarterback, I just look got

781
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: and be like, oh, there's five dudes in the box,

782
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hand the ball of running back.

783
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, because we have hats. Yeah.

784
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: And then this guy, this guy is wrong.

785
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 4: I'm on the backside of if they line back and

786
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 4: go the wrong way, if they safety don't come down.

787
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: And this is why I think would always made it

788
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: a step ahead of people. But I like, I like

789
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: how people have morphed it, like and when when I

790
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 3: when I hear it, now, the first thing don't come

791
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: to my mind is just throw it out around your

792
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: It's a mixture.

793
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 5: It's truly a mixture.

794
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think when you look at kids did a

795
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: great job with it too.

796
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: Who Cliff he was in Arizona, Arizona.

797
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: Well, I think let's sell real quick. But like, I

798
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: think a team that Fred's talking about that did a

799
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: great job of morphing it its Kansas City, Yeah, like

800
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: Mmen Patrick. So they went from a team that was

801
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 2: a twenty one twenty two twelve personnel West Coast, get

802
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: the ball out and then all of a sudden, now

803
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: you look at it and it's a air raid through

804
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: the teeth, you know what I'm saying.

805
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 5: And that's why he looking for specialist.

806
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: He looked for nobody else can make Hartman work in

807
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: the league besides enduring, because you know what, I need

808
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: you for certain purposes.

809
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 5: We're gonna run you. I run threat. As much as

810
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 5: you are a vertical of wide receiver, you I a

811
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 5: run threat, all right.

812
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: So I think this is what makes especially without So

813
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 3: he got special player Pat Mahomes.

814
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: Jason, is there any questions you got about the air

815
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: raid real quick before we get going anything. You're like, oh, man,

816
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: I don't understand X y Z, but it's a tempo,

817
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: it's a space anything else from missing there?

818
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 6: Why is it more effective in college than the NFL?

819
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 5: I hear that a lot that like you can.

820
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: Run it in college dbs, but you can't do it

821
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 3: in the NFL the same way the DB's.

822
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: And mean in the league you said it too, like

823
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: think about it. In the league, we can say, oh, shoot,

824
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: we need we need five pro pro level dbs. Yeah

825
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: we got them, got them in college if you can

826
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: match with your five pro one of.

827
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 4: Two special guys. And so it's gonna be got a

828
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 4: bunch of third and fourth damn dbs on the field,

829
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: and we're gonna keep We're gonna kill them, you know. Yeah,

830
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: we're gonna make sure Mama.

831
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: Does have to face also, So it's that I think

832
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: the pass rush is better, you know what I mean.

833
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 5: And the quarterbacking has a lot to do with it.

834
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: In college is like all our quarterbacks are okay, Like

835
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: every every once in a while we'll run across a

836
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: great quarterback. So I think it's so college is so

837
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 3: scheme dependent. I think pro is a lot player depending.

838
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: I think two things. One, I think the hashes in

839
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 2: college football, the wider hashes, it makes the space so

840
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 2: much more extreme, but the ridiculous so you can't hide

841
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 2: coverages the same way. You can't hide blitzers the same way.

842
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: It's just like, oh, I can't do a ConA. Believe

843
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: there's two dudes over here. There's two guys over there

844
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: that playing man coverage on me. That the sucker that

845
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: guy's blitzing right. But in the pros, because it's balanced up,

846
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 2: I can hide stuff a little bit better. I got dogs.

847
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: You can blitz even if you're going up tempo. Think

848
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: about how smart defenses are now in the NFL. Hey, shoot,

849
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: we can get to cover too, we can get to quarters.

850
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: We can just call that at the line of scrimmage.

851
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 5: And we through a lot of people through like rushing

852
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 5: the air raid.

853
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: They rushed two yards and get your hands up now,

854
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: so they are rib to knocked down, Like they say,

855
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: if we play an air raid and we knocked down

856
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: five bowles at the ladd of scrimmage, we've beating that team.

857
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the same way college works, Like you know,

858
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech was running triple option. It's like, oh shit,

859
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: we got to prepare for the triple option. It's like

860
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: it's same as the air raid. It prevents its own problems,

861
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 2: and college coaches college players aren't smart enough to develop

862
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: the new one, yes, But in the NFL it's like, Okay,

863
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 2: that ain't nothing.

864
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 5: I played against the Deveccotty, yes, and so I think.

865
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 2: That's why ultimately it doesn't work. But I do think

866
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: when you look at Cliff in Arizona, you look at

867
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: Andy Reid and what they've done with their West style

868
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: West Coast offense and kind of adding uh odding air

869
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: raid elements. Is the cool thing is they've now they've

870
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: merged the two offenses and it's kind of become a

871
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: high red offense. Right, So all the stuff that Kyle

872
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: does so well with shifts and motions and different personnels

873
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: to create mismatches. Now you're seeing clift to the Yeah.

874
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 3: And it's so funny you brought there up. Because let's

875
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: talk about everybody think they air rate all looks the same.

876
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 5: It doesn't. Nothing looks the same.

877
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 3: Shanahan's offense in San Francisco don't look like the offense

878
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: is installed in Miami, LA. But they are the basic,

879
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: the same thing. Miami saying we just like a little

880
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: bit more motion than y'all. We like to hit our

881
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: motion running. But but but but what we It goes

882
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: back to what we talked about earlier. It's about your

883
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: skill set, what you have. We're gonna care to what

884
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: we do best here.

885
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 4: So like when you look at San Fran, you know

886
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 4: you're looking at a wide receiver that's really a running back.

887
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: So we're not gonna put We're gonna put the ball

888
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: in his hand. Now, we don't allow him to do

889
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 4: things befittive. We're gonna use our running backs. Miami, we

890
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: got a track team on the outside, so you can

891
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 4: just mismatch you and let these guys just stretch the field.

892
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, so it's just bro, it's

893
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 4: I love looking at them.

894
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 5: Rang like why receivers, I want you to dig get out.

895
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

896
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: I mean that's a great point. Like they've they've brought

897
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: guys and like, think about it. They So it's the

898
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: same offense in La as said in San Francisco, but

899
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: they don't run as much outside zone. Yeah, they run

900
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: gap skin more inside right. Yeah, And then you look

901
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: at Miami and it's like, man, it looks like the

902
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 2: single wing outside zone, gaps, steam pullers, all that kind

903
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 2: of stuff. So wow, But I think to your point, friend,

904
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 2: everywhere it goes, it's kind of shift and change, like defenses,

905
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: very race to kind of fix the personnel. But I

906
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: think it's cool now to see the differences that that

907
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: kind of prop up and say, oh, we can get

908
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: into twelve personnel and run the same concept, or we

909
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: can get into twelve and get to this run and

910
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 2: still get some hurry up element, which is pretty cool.

911
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 6: So yes, Jason, what are some of the negatives of

912
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 6: the air raid and why do some teams not incorporate

913
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 6: it as much in the NFL level? And I think

914
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 6: you were talking if I can guess a little bit

915
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 6: and maybe tell me if I'm right or wrong. You

916
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 6: were talking about put your hands up. You're not going

917
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 6: to ball down slowing, Like if you can slow their

918
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 6: pace down and get a quick two and out so

919
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 6: or three and out, then like that's exactly what you want.

920
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 5: This area is.

921
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: Remember we had a patche with Kyle, remember that, and

922
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: it was like it was like we use it to

923
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: get out of ruts and stuff. And I remember going

924
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: in and be like, hey man, we should do it

925
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: all the time. Actually, remember that we should. We should

926
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: do it all the time because it's really good for

927
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: us and it simplifies the defense. He goes, it's fast

928
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 2: three out in football. Yeah, And when you say that,

929
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: like you're stressing the defense like no other. Right, it's

930
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: the same thing that happened with Chip Kelly. Like Chip

931
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 2: Kelly doesn't run the air raid, he runs a spread.

932
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: So the difference between spread and air raid is you're

933
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: spreading out to run the ball with quarterback, zone read

934
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, and the tempo's there, but

935
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: it's it was too fast two phase and so and

936
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: so then you say, oh, we're going to slow it down.

937
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: But the advantage of the air raid is that it

938
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: is nice, you know what I mean, Because then now

939
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: the defense can change stuff, right, they can be like,

940
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: oh the line of scrimmage, you guys are chilling shot.

941
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: We'll get into whatever call we want.

942
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 5: It's just like I love whooped cream, but I don't

943
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 5: eat buckets, you know what I'm saying.

944
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: I use it as a topping. And I think every

945
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: playbook has an air raid. Six you called third down.

946
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: I think third down turns third down. Hurry up, yeah, yeah,

947
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: jes hurry up for three minute, two minutes.

948
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 5: Like so it's there like.

949
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 4: Pay Man ran air raid to a stint, like like raging.

950
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: Them won't even come.

951
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 5: Off the field.

952
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,479
Speaker 4: They were staying right and they would run the same

953
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: place depending on you know, to the coverage. And I

954
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 4: mean it's not it wasn't air.

955
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 2: Raid, but the principal was just like it.

956
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: And I used to actually, REGI like why you used

957
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 4: to stay out theys Like, bro, we got five plays

958
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 4: Py gonna look at his his things and say he's

959
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 4: gonna call a book color and we're gonna know which

960
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 4: one we're running. So I'm like, well, damn, that's like

961
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: hurry up all over again.

962
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 5: Everybody got it.

963
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: And I think that's the other thing that gives you

964
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of play volume. You can do

965
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Yeah, where it's like, hey, I'm at

966
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. It's like I don't like that

967
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: concept versus the show. Yeah, that's okay whatever.

968
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 5: That's why Peyton would wait us out. This is what

969
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 5: the line.

970
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 4: Get your hard count? Yeah, oh omaha, omaha, they changing it.

971
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: You won't ever go inside seven sick because you know

972
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: he can time you up. After see him said we

973
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: can time him up. We can time the build up

974
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: so he won't hit snip right in between ten and

975
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 3: seven sick anything else.

976
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: We can time you up a bliss and then we're

977
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: digressing here. But that's what made Peyton so special is

978
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: that he had he had the offense at his disposal. Yeah,

979
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 2: and it wasn't as it wasn't as complicated as people think.

980
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: But he basically say, I have a man beater, I

981
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: have his own beater, I have a screen, I have

982
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: a run.

983
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 4: Let's go use a coach.

984
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, playing quarterback now hard to stop for a conerback,

985
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: Like you gotta be just, you gotta be ready.

986
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: So I think that leads us really nicely into the

987
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 2: next section, which is what can we expect from Cliff's

988
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: offense here in DC.

989
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 4: I think I think it's going to be similar to

990
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 4: what he did and you know in Arizona, I think

991
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 4: one of the things that you see already before they

992
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 4: even get out there and passes h you have two

993
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 4: dynamic running backs maybe three, you know, and a young

994
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 4: kid that we got in last year. So I mean,

995
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 4: when you have that, you know, and it's been said,

996
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 4: you know, he leaned on his run game way more

997
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 4: than what people give him credits pecial, you know, and

998
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 4: when you have a young quarterback, you're not trying to

999
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 4: put so much on this plate, you know what I mean.

1000
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: You want to simplify things to to a stint to

1001
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 4: where look, man, if we can take pressure off by

1002
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 4: letting these guys in the backfield eat and do what

1003
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 4: they do now, making things a little more simpler for him,

1004
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 4: because you got to think officers defense is gonna already

1005
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: have that in the back of his head he can

1006
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 4: take off. He has a good arm, and they got

1007
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 4: a good run game. When you have all three of

1008
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 4: those things going for you, you gotta play on your heels.

1009
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 4: You can't, honest, you almost sitting out there, you know

1010
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 4: what I mean, scared to not know what's going to

1011
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: be expected of these guys when they line up. So

1012
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: to me, I'm just looking at it from from the

1013
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 4: outside right now. I haven't really just watched enough practice

1014
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 4: to see and I'm pretty sure they're not going to

1015
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 4: show us anything until it get closer to the time

1016
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 4: and we're not gonna probably be out there. But I

1017
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 4: would see him leaning on that run game a little

1018
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 4: more than what people might expect.

1019
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be good because I always look

1020
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 3: at what did you do with a player when you

1021
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: was just getting into this league.

1022
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 5: He had Kyler Murray, all right, I look at Jaye Dames.

1023
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: I think they we could say they do the same

1024
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 3: exact speed both for the fast guys.

1025
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 5: Uh, both of them can really wing it. But one

1026
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 5: happened to be six three sixty four.

1027
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1028
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: When he called those plays for Kylub, most of those

1029
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 3: was roll louts and stuff, trying to get him clear

1030
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: looks even they the pocket was even how to set

1031
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: the pockets on all of that. He don't have to

1032
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: even address that with this quarterback. So he's gonna be

1033
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: on a more neutral u calling playing field, and he

1034
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: understands that.

1035
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 5: As much as we love to see Jay runn, he's

1036
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 5: a throw first quarterback.

1037
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 3: People need to understand that he's a oh everybody is checked,

1038
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: letting me take off a run.

1039
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 5: So I think with Cliff, he's gonna understand.

1040
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: Like Tanne, just especially for this young guy, I need

1041
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: to marry this this run game first, all right, passing game,

1042
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: I think, first couple of game. Look for a lot

1043
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 3: of running back screens, a lot of wide receiver screens,

1044
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: a lot of quick throws, a lot of throws that

1045
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: he got clear vision of.

1046
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 5: Where he's going. He got a guess, no guessing. I

1047
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 5: think he gonna take all the things.

1048
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: And we all can agree that we always thought he

1049
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: did a good job with Kyler coming out. I think

1050
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: he's gonna take all the things he felt like he

1051
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: failed with and make sure that he doesn't do that

1052
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: with this guy. And let's be honest, and let's say

1053
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: our guys are. I think their athletic ability is the same.

1054
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: But I think Jayden is a better student than Kyler.

1055
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: Wells often to say no, let's not say he actually failed.

1056
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 4: The quarterback himself could have had some officials, some.

1057
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 5: Some self initiative to this thing.

1058
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. So I think you know you

1059
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: look at again, I think there's gonna be air raid principles.

1060
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: What does that mean. There's probably gonna be some tempo.

1061
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna spread it out. We're gonna try and find

1062
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 2: easy pre slab books before practice, get them before for

1063
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: the ball snap, and get the defensive declare coverage. I

1064
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: think that'll be there, but that's in every offense. I

1065
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: think you're going to see different personnel groupings, Like even

1066
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: in practice, you see him out there with multiple tight

1067
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: ends and running man beaters or run to all again

1068
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: ways to dictate to the defense, because if I'm in

1069
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: thirteen personnel, hypothetically, you can't be out there and nickel

1070
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna run the ball down your right. So

1071
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: how do I again, how do I goes back to

1072
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: that core tenant? Yeah, how do I mismatch? Find mismatches

1073
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: and stress the defense? And I think you see that.

1074
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: I think when you bring in a guy like Brian Johnson,

1075
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: who was part of, in my opinion, one of the

1076
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 2: more innovative offenses from a quarterback run game standpoint, I

1077
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: think it's part of it. But if you look at

1078
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: what made that great. They basically brought triple option to

1079
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: the NFL. Right, I think you're going to see a

1080
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 2: little bit of that. I think you'll see a touch

1081
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: of this. And basically what I'm saying is Cliff's a

1082
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 2: smart guy. Yeah, he sees where NFL offenses are going.

1083
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: He knows how to get that done. So you're going

1084
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: to see a touch of that Philly run game, a

1085
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: touch of the outside zone. Yeah, touch it. Yeah, yes,

1086
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: that's exactly right.

1087
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 5: Like we will have it with coach Van like we have.

1088
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 5: And I think he's good. It's saying, you know, what,

1089
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 5: what would y'all do in this situation where you just

1090
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 5: came from. So I still think he's stealing of them.

1091
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 5: Coaches ain't over his skis, like, nah, we're just gonna

1092
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 5: do it this one way. No I need I need

1093
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 5: all of these educations.

1094
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: We see that even at practice, just in terms of

1095
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: the concepts are running, those aren't the concepts are running

1096
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 2: aren't traditional air raid concepts, but they are applied to

1097
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: the system that makes sense. We're going to operate with

1098
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: the signal, we're gonna operate with tempo. So it's just

1099
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: fun to see a smart guy innovating football. He's got

1100
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: his background, his backbone right, but he's got we got

1101
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: multiple tight ends. We've got play action, we got motions,

1102
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 2: we got shifts, and it just it's it's blossomed out

1103
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 2: kind of what you're saying. The air raid's a piece,

1104
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: but there's other big building blocks that make this offense

1105
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: go because I need multiple ways to beat people. Yes,

1106
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: that's exactly right. So let's get to our last segment

1107
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: is how do our guys fitness thing? And let's start

1108
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: with the quarterback Jaye and Daniels. Fred you want to

1109
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: start us off?

1110
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 5: Oh, yes, I will.

1111
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 3: He fits well, fits well. I don't see an offense

1112
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: he doesn't fit well. Like his skill set says whatever

1113
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: you need me to do, I can do it.

1114
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 5: Now.

1115
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: The question is how fast do we refine him? Do

1116
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 3: we slow the game down for him? Do we speed

1117
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: the game up? Do we protect him with the run game?

1118
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: Do we protect them with quick passes? What are we

1119
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 3: going to expose him to? Like, it's just like a child,

1120
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: Whatever you expose him to, that's how they blossom to be.

1121
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: So the question is with Jaye names how much?

1122
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 5: How soon?

1123
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 3: Right?

1124
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 4: I'm with Yeah, I'm dead on with it, and I

1125
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 4: think that's gonna be something that they probably get a

1126
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 4: get a good understanding that, you know, coming out of

1127
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 4: these practices into the training camp. They'll know how much

1128
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 4: we can give them and how much we can you

1129
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But I think it's gonna be fine.

1130
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 4: I think this offense is great for the you know,

1131
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: we actually went after a quarterback that was available for

1132
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 4: us that was that fit perfect for the offense that

1133
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 4: we had as you know, as far as our scheme

1134
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 4: and coordinator.

1135
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: I totally agree. And just to see his growth maturation

1136
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: over the first couple of weeks so's a mini camp

1137
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: has been really exciting. You mentioned this Fred talking about

1138
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: him compared to Carlin Murray to me, not even I

1139
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: mean's he's an animal and that's great to see. And

1140
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: then you've got a guy like Terry talking about and

1141
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: this again speaks to Cliff's flexibility, how he's gonna be

1142
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 2: used at multiple receiver spots anything. And I think again,

1143
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: like that just allows you another way to create mismatches. Tanner, right,

1144
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: what does that do for you as a receiver to

1145
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 2: be able to have multiple spots? You know, I loved

1146
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: it when I was able to play x Z and

1147
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: then play the slot. I think what it does for

1148
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: you is just it keeps it.

1149
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 4: It keeps the defense now not knowing if you just

1150
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 4: because yeah, I think most of them times, if you

1151
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 4: see a guy line up on the side of the

1152
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: tight end, he's the Z you know what I mean,

1153
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 4: he's on that, he's not then he's a strong side,

1154
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 4: but he's disease, he's off the ball. If you got

1155
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 4: a guy like myself or Terry who can now you

1156
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 4: could just move or you can bake your your your

1157
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 4: offensive of set around him. You don't even have to

1158
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 4: move and say all right, we're gonna make this strong

1159
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 4: and make it weak. Now that is that just makes

1160
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 4: it harder for them to like pinpoint him and say

1161
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 4: we're gonna cloud him or whatever, you know what I mean.

1162
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 4: Like I remember when Shanahan them in twenty eleven said, Tanna,

1163
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 4: we don't move you to X because they get more

1164
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 4: balls in his offense. They moved me to X and

1165
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: they took me out of the offense. Now you got

1166
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 4: you got, you got your bar gafy old eating there

1167
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 4: like bro. They just putting the cloud on me. Coach

1168
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 4: backside I'm not doing anything. Now you have that that

1169
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: structure with this offense, like Terry just you know, alluded to.

1170
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 4: It's not necessarily going to be an X or Z

1171
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 4: or G. I'm just gonna line up and based on

1172
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 4: where I'm on the field, I'm going to be that

1173
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 4: you know that position.

1174
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's great. I also think you don't

1175
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: have to change the formation, be like, hey man, we

1176
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 2: want to get to the ball. Go to the f

1177
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: they're getting the Ball's make that happen, and.

1178
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: It also makes it. It tells me that they're gonna

1179
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: treat Terry truly like a number one. I don't feel

1180
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 3: like he's been treated like a number one, like he's

1181
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 3: never been force fed the ball, like forever force fed

1182
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 3: the ball. And I always say, and I always laugh

1183
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: and received because they all come out there thinking they

1184
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 3: finisa catch ten touchdowns on you in the single game,

1185
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: and I'm like, dude, they don't even move you around enough,

1186
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: Like always tell the dude, if you keep coming to

1187
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: this right corner, yeah, they really trying to get you

1188
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: the ball.

1189
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: Well, I talked to my buddy who's the OC in

1190
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: Minnesota about Justin Jefferson. It's like It just gives you

1191
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: so much flexibility because he plays everything, because he got

1192
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: every spot. Yeah, so it's like, oh, you can play

1193
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: the accident, play the afric, can play the Z, you

1194
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: can crack, you can run, and we can get him

1195
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: the ball.

1196
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 3: And what if this week he playing against a young

1197
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: Richard Sherman and this just ain't a good mashup for you.

1198
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: But Richard only plays left corn right, Like, yeah, I'm

1199
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 3: finna put him in the slot.

1200
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 5: I'm not finna give your bitch chance to te off

1201
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 5: your chance and t off.

1202
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: On my player one hundred percent. So I think that's

1203
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: a that's a great, great thing. And then let's talk

1204
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: about one more guy before he finish up, and that's

1205
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: Brian Robinson. Yeah. I think a lot of people are

1206
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: worried about him, you know, in the sense that like, hey,

1207
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: it's air r he's not getting a lot of touches.

1208
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be awesome.

1209
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 5: And Ekler.

1210
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 3: I respect Eckler, but you know, the young bull is

1211
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: to start a running back, one is Brian Robinson. Do

1212
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: you understand that? And what he did catching the ball?

1213
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: All right, it's hard to hit little receive, I mean

1214
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: little running backs. You know, jittery you spros, they're hard

1215
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: to stop on third down, But is he hard to

1216
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 3: stop a big bet? They can catch a big beck

1217
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 3: and ktch and break tackles, and one or two broke

1218
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 3: tackles in the NFL usually equal a touchdown and just

1219
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 3: the way it goes, and everybody cannot break tackles. I

1220
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: would not be shocked if this Brian Robinson's best year

1221
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: and everybody would say last year was I said he

1222
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: have a better year this year.

1223
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: No, I'm with you, man. And the other thing is,

1224
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: like the last day Oks, they're running like I'll go

1225
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: special Tanna, But he's doing it from the backfield, working

1226
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: the seam, dude hitting back shoulder ball, you know what

1227
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like he's and he's such a big guy.

1228
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, you forget how big football play. Like you told

1229
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 4: me last year, I'm a football player. Anything they want

1230
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 4: me to do.

1231
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 5: Do so.

1232
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: Needless to say, we're all really excited about this this

1233
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: offense because Cliff Kingsbury coming in and see what it

1234
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 2: looks like. Much like the defense, we want to see

1235
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 2: how it changes to fit the personnel, which I think

1236
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: was Tanna's first point right out the gate, gott to

1237
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: fit your personnel. I got to maximize them. But that's

1238
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 2: gonna do it for today's show. Thank you so much

1239
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 2: for joining. Please make sure to like and subscribe ever

1240
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:00,719
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1241
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 5: And that's it.

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Speaker 2: Defense.

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1244
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,920
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1245
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,719
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