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Speaker 1: Cowboys back in the practice field today, Mike McCarthy's got
Speaker 1: his press for coming up at eleven. Any pressing news
Speaker 1: that we're waiting to hear from.
Speaker 5: I guess more clarity on Tyler Smiths as the days pass.
Speaker 5: Reports coming out about an MRI yesterday. You know, I
Speaker 5: think his status is kind of uncertain going forward. So
Speaker 5: here's to hoping that that left guard situation gets figured
Speaker 5: out quick.
Speaker 3: Goodness.
Speaker 6: That has to be the biggest thing. Yeah, I saw
Speaker 6: that there's reports that it came back on them RI
Speaker 6: as a hamstring strain. So it's all about you know.
Speaker 6: I feel strongly if this is a playoff game, you
Speaker 6: wouldn't even be thinking twice. But because it's so early
Speaker 6: in the season, you just never really know. And and
Speaker 6: I don't think that Mike McCarthy would even if they
Speaker 6: thought today, yeah, he's probably not gonna go Sunday night.
Speaker 6: He's not gonna tip his hand on that at all.
Speaker 6: Just looking for the game planning things. I'm just from
Speaker 6: being around Mike McCarthy over the last few years like
Speaker 6: he does not give that stuff up at all. So
Speaker 6: that'll that even if it even if he wasn't gonna play,
Speaker 6: we won't know about it until probably Jerry on the
Speaker 6: radio Friday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, getting really close right up to it. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think you're gonna probably see him play.
Speaker 1: I that's just a that's a gut feeling more than
Speaker 1: it is a report.
Speaker 3: I just I look at it.
Speaker 1: Game line, yeah, and and the matchup that they have,
Speaker 1: and I mean, we'll talk about more of that matchup
Speaker 1: specifically tomorrow, but I just don't see them not playing
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith in this game. And if they do, maybe
Speaker 1: they they they if they are pushing it a little bit,
Speaker 1: maybe they keep him in a rotation and it's it's
Speaker 1: not full snaps, but that's really hard to do with
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman anyways. You want to have some continuity
Speaker 1: up front. It's not like switching in and out receivers
Speaker 1: and getting snaps like that. So I think he plays.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be there and I think he'll be
Speaker 1: ready to go. But of course we'll look to see
Speaker 1: some clarity. And do you think there will be clarity
Speaker 1: today whether or not he is on the practice field
Speaker 1: or do you think most of that is going to
Speaker 1: come Friday, because you I mean.
Speaker 6: There's a chance he's not out there today for sure,
Speaker 6: where he could just be getting treatment and things like that.
Speaker 6: I don't necessarily expect that, but yeah, that's always a possibility.
Speaker 6: If they think given him a couple of days will help,
Speaker 6: then yeah, that's possible. But I still think even if
Speaker 6: that was the case, they wouldn't tell you if he's
Speaker 6: going to be out or not.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep an eye on Tyler Smith moving forward. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Cowboys back on the practice field. McCarthy coming up at
Speaker 1: eleven am Central time. Isaiah, I want you to dive
Speaker 1: into this real quick. We talked about the identity, and
Speaker 1: identity is such a buzzword around the NFL, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it varies. But what is the offensive identity for the
Speaker 1: New York Giants and how could the Cowboys? What are
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to take away if that is their identity?
Speaker 3: Well, you want to force him into a passing situation,
Speaker 3: and that's easy to say with this defense. But the
Speaker 3: best player on the field for them offensively is their
Speaker 3: running back, Sakwon Barkley, and I feel as if he
Speaker 3: is such a huge element of their offense. And I
Speaker 3: don't want to start throwing random percentages out there, but
Speaker 3: I believe last and when I heard it, around seventy percent.
Speaker 3: He's about seventy percent involved in what they do offensively,
Speaker 3: whether he's in the receiving game or whether he's running
Speaker 3: the ball. So if you are able to have from
Speaker 3: the defense's perspective, a positive effect on him, it's just
Speaker 3: simply slow him down. Everybody wants to say, stop him,
Speaker 3: shut him down, like certain individuals, it's kind of hard
Speaker 3: to do that on right, especially when they have the
Speaker 3: versatility to flex out and all those things. But if
Speaker 3: you could simply slow him down, you go back to
Speaker 3: last year's game back in November, they were able to
Speaker 3: simply slow him down, right, get their hands on him
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage, really disrupt his route out
Speaker 3: into the whether he's running a route or whether he's
Speaker 3: running a screenplay, right, just really disrupt him before he
Speaker 3: gets the ball in his hands. Because once the ball
Speaker 3: is in his hands, you're gonna need you're gonna need
Speaker 3: all your partners to come come to the party, because
Speaker 3: he's just that shift. He's just that dynamics, that's what
Speaker 3: it is. So to that point, find a way to
Speaker 3: slow him down, and I feel like you're gonna find
Speaker 3: yourself in a good situation because I still don't believe
Speaker 3: that Danny Dines is Danny Dimes. I still think he's
Speaker 3: Danny Nickel.
Speaker 6: Well, Mel, I mean to that point, though, I will
Speaker 6: also say when I look at my time covering the
Speaker 6: Cowboys versus Giants, going back to Dack's rookie year, like,
Speaker 6: I don't think the Giants have done a good job
Speaker 6: at all of replacing Odell Beckham. Odell Beckham twenty eighteen,
Speaker 6: that's the last time they had a thousand yard receiver.
Speaker 6: I mean since then, there's been times where the Cowboys
Speaker 6: have talked about potentially having three one thousand yard receivers
Speaker 6: on the team. And I'm not saying they haven't tried.
Speaker 6: They gave a bowload of money to Kenny Galladay, he's gone.
Speaker 6: They drafted Darius k Well, yeah, but I was gonna
Speaker 6: say Cadarius Tony High, thinking that he was gonna be
Speaker 6: a big part of it. They have not put a
Speaker 6: perimeter player out there that you really fear. I think
Speaker 6: I would say over this last four or five years,
Speaker 6: really since Odell Sterling Shepherd maybe is their best guy,
Speaker 6: and I don't think anybody looks at him like he's
Speaker 6: a number one and so during that time, so they
Speaker 6: lose both those games to the Giants Dax's rookie year,
Speaker 6: and since then they've only lost the Giants once and
Speaker 6: it was at the end of that twenty twenty season, So,
Speaker 6: I mean, and then just listening to all the questions
Speaker 6: they were getting, because you know, for us, you know,
Speaker 6: Michael Parsons sucks, he'll talk today. That's I think that's
Speaker 6: what the schedule is gonna be for the season. Dak
Speaker 6: always talks on Thursdays. Man, yesterday the Giants had Daniel
Speaker 6: Jones talk, Dexter Lawrence talked. I think somebody else did
Speaker 6: to maybe Darren Waller. I mean, they had a lot
Speaker 6: of their top guys talk, and man, just looking at
Speaker 6: the questions they were all getting. It was all about how,
Speaker 6: you know, is it in your guys head now that
Speaker 6: you guys can't beat the Cowboys and all stuff. Just
Speaker 6: one question after another. And as a player, you got
Speaker 6: to be annoyed by that. But I mean, records are
Speaker 6: what they are. But when I look back at why
Speaker 6: it's been like that, one of the biggest things that
Speaker 6: jumps out is just that perimeter playmakers just haven't been there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to touch on a couple of things
Speaker 5: we could talk about the receiving corps for the Giants
Speaker 5: and kind of piggybacking off of what you said about
Speaker 5: how they haven't really had that reliable guy since Odell.
Speaker 5: I do feel like eventually Jalen Hyatt could be that
Speaker 5: guy for them, but it's not gonna be week one.
Speaker 5: So it's another instance of Hey, very fortunate that they
Speaker 5: get him at least this early in the season on
Speaker 5: the road, very similar to how they get Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 5: week too.
Speaker 4: At least that happens early in the season.
Speaker 5: But I think Jalen Hyatt further down the road could
Speaker 5: definitely be that guy for them.
Speaker 4: And looking around Darren will.
Speaker 6: Let's say on that for real quick, Yeah, why do
Speaker 6: you think he fell as far as he did in
Speaker 6: the draft?
Speaker 7: Though?
Speaker 5: I think what people looked at when they looked at
Speaker 5: him from Tennessee as he's just boom or bust. Whether
Speaker 5: you know he can have the big play, he's not
Speaker 5: going to get you much in the short to intermediate game.
Speaker 5: And that could be attributed to his rout tree, that
Speaker 5: could be attributed to Tennessee's receiver development over the years too.
Speaker 5: I mean, I can't really think of a Tennessee receiver.
Speaker 5: Off the top of my head, that's been something as
Speaker 5: of late, so I think that's a big part of it.
Speaker 5: But you know, if you have a guy like you know,
Speaker 5: Danny Dimes or Danny Nichols, however Isaiah wants to put it,
Speaker 5: if he can just get the ball to him downfield,
Speaker 5: that's eventually going to open up a lot of things
Speaker 5: for sake.
Speaker 4: Wand that makes sense why they drafted him.
Speaker 6: The only reason I wanted to bring that up with
Speaker 6: you is because people that live on Twitter like we do,
Speaker 6: have seen the video during his draft process with him
Speaker 6: and Cowboys wide receiver coach Robert Prince, and Robert Prince
Speaker 6: is like basically telling him, you know, hey, man, just
Speaker 6: go yeah, I want to say, you know what it was.
Speaker 6: It was at his pro day. I want to say
Speaker 6: he was in Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: He's like he's like telling him, He's like, man, you know,
Speaker 6: you know what you are? You know what you are?
Speaker 6: And Jalen highly comes right, Bay goes what am I?
Speaker 3: Coach?
Speaker 1: What am I?
Speaker 6: And it's like kind of contentious for a little bit. Uh.
Speaker 6: One of our reporters at the Athletic asked him about it.
Speaker 6: This week a couple of days ago, I think, and
Speaker 6: he said it was all cool, and it was just
Speaker 6: like it was one of those environments where he was
Speaker 6: just kind of trying to motivate him or whatever. But
Speaker 6: if you just watch the video, it makes it certainly
Speaker 6: seem like Robert Prince's kind of inferring that, you know,
Speaker 6: everyone knows you're the speed guy. Now you're out here
Speaker 6: in this show everybody that you can do everything else.
Speaker 6: It wasn't saying you're not anything else, but it's like, hey,
Speaker 6: that's what these guys that are watching right now are thinking.
Speaker 6: Show them in this.
Speaker 1: That's what I took it as.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know how when.
Speaker 6: That stuff gets on social media, it can gain legs
Speaker 6: like that happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gets out of contact.
Speaker 6: But then when he fell in the draft too, there
Speaker 6: was kind of part of me where because there was
Speaker 6: some talking positive being a first round pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the con that I had on him. Whenever
Speaker 1: I was watching film and draft coverage, I said, pretty
Speaker 1: confined to the slot even in college because some of
Speaker 1: the other players outside. They had a guy named Cedric
Speaker 1: Tillman on the outside that was pretty good as well.
Speaker 1: It'll likely take a transition period to move to a
Speaker 1: pro style spread, but he's talented enough to make it happen,
Speaker 1: needs to develop his route tree to expedite that process.
Speaker 1: So it kind of goes back to what the video
Speaker 1: might have been talking about was the route tree and
Speaker 1: the speed because he's quick released, he's got the skill set,
Speaker 1: he's explosive. He brings all that to the table. But
Speaker 1: like you said, Nick ching him in week one, you're
Speaker 1: not catching him as a rookie in week fifteen yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course you faced the Giants later in
Speaker 1: the year as well, but you're not seeing the high
Speaker 1: end of Jalen Hyatt initially to where it's really going
Speaker 1: to scare you from a weapon standpoint, And going back
Speaker 1: to what John was saying earlier, Daniel Jones is one
Speaker 1: in five in his career against Dallas. The only win
Speaker 1: was Week seventeen of twenty twenty against Andy Dalton as
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. So that's not all his fault. There's
Speaker 1: been injuries to Saquon Barkley, there's been lack of production
Speaker 1: on the outside, But Isaiah, you'd seem to think that
Speaker 1: Dandy Dimes plays a pretty significant factor into that as well.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think he's going to have a substantially
Speaker 3: better season this year. He'll probably have his best season
Speaker 3: of his career this year simply because of who his
Speaker 3: head coach is and his coordinator. I mean, Dave bow
Speaker 3: is an absolute beast when it comes to play calling
Speaker 3: and his understanding of concepts.
Speaker 1: Just to back your point ups one seed he's in
Speaker 1: with Dable. He set career highs and completion percentage, passing
Speaker 1: yards passing, touchdown passer rating all last year. Ye yeah,
Speaker 1: and playoff ones. Yeah that's a good one too.
Speaker 3: So I mean the reality is he has more time
Speaker 3: underneath that leadership now and he's going to be that
Speaker 3: much more refined. And these guys don't have a receiver
Speaker 3: as we're talking about the receiver room, but they do
Speaker 3: have a pretty solid committee of receivers. And when you
Speaker 3: have a OC or head coach however you want to
Speaker 3: call him, okay in Dable and you have a quarterback
Speaker 3: who's been underneath his wings now for a little over year,
Speaker 3: has a great understanding, and then he have a room
Speaker 3: where anybody could be the man any day. That creates
Speaker 3: a dangerous kind of kind of setting for any defense,
Speaker 3: and it really just comes down to what your front
Speaker 3: can do now to force them into those passing situations,
Speaker 3: because we all know mister Nichol is going to give
Speaker 3: you an opportunity. He's gonna give you opportunity, right, Nikel. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's going to give you an opportunity, but you have
Speaker 3: to force him into that position. You can't give Dabel
Speaker 3: the option to run the ball and passed the ball.
Speaker 3: You will find yourself in a situation.
Speaker 6: And obviously he sold on him because they wouldn't given
Speaker 6: him that contract. And if they didn't, one other thing
Speaker 6: I was gonna say in hya. I mean, he was
Speaker 6: a top seventy five pick. I'm not trying to act
Speaker 6: like he fell to the fourth, fifth round. But I
Speaker 6: don't know. Maybe I overrat it because I like college football,
Speaker 6: but I mean, when a guy wins the blittne cough
Speaker 6: best you know, college wide receiver in that and then
Speaker 6: there was just all the hype coming out of college
Speaker 6: and that I just thought he would be late first,
Speaker 6: you know, mid second or something like that.
Speaker 5: I fully expected a mid to late second on him.
Speaker 5: And yeah, even I wouldn't have surprised me if someone
Speaker 5: took a risk on him in the first, you know,
Speaker 5: he just kind of felt like that kind of talent
Speaker 5: and as he kept falling.
Speaker 4: That really surprised me back in April.
Speaker 5: But I think he's gonna have a very similar year
Speaker 5: to Christian Watson in the fact that, like, you can't
Speaker 5: forget who he is the first six seven weeks and
Speaker 5: then oh my goodness, where did this one hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty yard three touchdown performance come out from?
Speaker 1: So can we make sure that that opening, like his
Speaker 1: his coming out game, doesn't happen against Dallas.
Speaker 5: It kind of happened against the secondary that doesn't have
Speaker 5: a good safety corep because it's going to require him
Speaker 5: to get over the top and have those big plays
Speaker 5: and daty dimes to be able to connect with him.
Speaker 4: So I don't think that happens against Stallis. It does
Speaker 4: just me theorizing. I don't want to sound with the homer.
Speaker 6: Here, but yeah, net Packers game, if Daniel Jones are
Speaker 6: the quarterback and that Aaron Rodgers, I don't think he
Speaker 6: would have had that game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, point exactly. I want to touch on Segua
Speaker 4: Barkley really quick.
Speaker 5: I think Dallas has done a really good job since
Speaker 5: Barkley has come in the league of at least limiting him.
Speaker 5: Through eight games, Saquon has played against the Cowboys, averaging
Speaker 5: fifty eight rushing yards on twelve carries. He's had more
Speaker 5: action in the receiving game as of late. In his
Speaker 5: last three games, he's had a one hundred and twenty
Speaker 5: rushing yards, one hundred and nine rushing yards, and then
Speaker 5: eighty receiving yards. So at won two three. So I
Speaker 5: guess just trying to limit him in both of those categories.
Speaker 5: And you know, the run defense is going to be
Speaker 5: something we put a big spotlight on in week one
Speaker 5: just to see how it's improved, whether it be with Hankins,
Speaker 5: Mazie or with the guys in the second level, to
Speaker 5: see if they can come in and you know, limit
Speaker 5: that running game. But I think overall the Cowboys have
Speaker 5: done a pretty good job. But started Barkley is starting
Speaker 5: to catch up a little bit. He's starting to pick
Speaker 5: up back on those averages a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he reached twenty miles per hour on six carries
Speaker 1: last season, which was tied for first in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and a lot of that came at the back half
Speaker 1: of the season because he did deal with some of
Speaker 1: those early injuries. Do you think you talked about the
Speaker 1: shiftingness earlier? Do you think Saquon I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of discontent there as well, in terms of contracts
Speaker 1: and running backs and whatever's ended up happening in New York.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's back fully to what he was
Speaker 1: originally to where it will be tough for Dallas? And
Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna be a task regardless. But this
Speaker 1: is a run defense that we're still kind of questioning
Speaker 1: going into Week one.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see what da bolls approach to this
Speaker 3: defense is going to be To next point. Dallas has
Speaker 3: done a pretty dog one good job against Saquon Barkley
Speaker 3: in the past, and dan Quinn has had a good
Speaker 3: game plan for him. However, you're meeting off asive coordinator
Speaker 3: who's probably the most confident he's been in that organization.
Speaker 3: You're meeting a quarterback who's the most confidence he's been
Speaker 3: in that organization. Those guys have whatever chemistry that has
Speaker 3: been brewing for the entire offseason. So you're gonna get
Speaker 3: the healthiest version of sa Kwan Barkley that you will
Speaker 3: face all year long. So there's a lot of things
Speaker 3: that are against you in that regard, but at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, you have the personnel to handle this,
Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to have your head on a
Speaker 3: swivel because he's gonna stable, is gonna be in his bag,
Speaker 3: and there's gonna be things that he's been brewing up
Speaker 3: all off season, you know, since last year or since
Speaker 3: the beginning of the year, that he's just been waiting
Speaker 3: to pull out against Dallas, And you know, you just
Speaker 3: have to be calm, you have the steady of the sas.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be plays that they make, there's gonna be
Speaker 3: splash plays. Then you just have to know that, hey,
Speaker 3: this is a part of being in the first game
Speaker 3: of the season. Every team's going to go through this
Speaker 3: for the first four games of the year. There's gonna
Speaker 3: be things that they just haven't seen because guys have
Speaker 3: been drawing stuff up all summer. So just be calm,
Speaker 3: be collected, you know, stay to your keys, stay to
Speaker 3: your stay disciplined. They're going to get their plays, but
Speaker 3: just make sure that you don't get too high or
Speaker 3: too low.
Speaker 6: They've been definitely following the Cowboys Blueprint of twenty eleven
Speaker 6: on with spending those first round picks on offensive linemen,
Speaker 6: and you'd think that. Obviously, the Cowboys a lot have
Speaker 6: had a lot of success draft in the first round,
Speaker 6: and it's not always going to be a hit for everybody,
Speaker 6: but Andrew Thomas, Evan Neil. They just took the John
Speaker 6: Michael Schmidt, I think it is the center. So they've
Speaker 6: been like they've been spending, Yeah, they've been spending a
Speaker 6: lot of really high picks to solidify this offensive line.
Speaker 6: So it'll be interesting to see if that group has
Speaker 6: taken another step forward.
Speaker 5: They're really starting to get talented in the trenches, and
Speaker 5: they're young too, so that's that's kind of concerning.
Speaker 1: How much does Daniel Jones play a factor into that
Speaker 1: because he's a mobile quarterback. I mean, as much as
Speaker 1: you really want to talk about it, he's where would
Speaker 1: you rank him? Let's start there. Where would you rank
Speaker 1: him in terms of mobile quarterbacks in the NFL? Where
Speaker 1: would you put him?
Speaker 3: I mean, how high are we going on ranking?
Speaker 1: So here I'll talk.
Speaker 5: About guys that are definitely above definitely about Josh Allen,
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3: He's in a top team, that's he's in the top ten.
Speaker 1: I would argue he's top five. You're out your No,
Speaker 1: actually I'm not. I'll give you something.
Speaker 4: There's not many more here we go.
Speaker 1: How about this?
Speaker 6: If we only we could get a hold of a
Speaker 6: mobile quarterback that we could ask about this, Yeah, that
Speaker 6: would be nice.
Speaker 4: Or two of them.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones last year?
Speaker 6: How does his mobility stag up against yours?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Now yeah, where is it now? Thirty nine year
Speaker 1: old Isaiah Yes. Daniel Jones is one of three quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the NFL last year that had three thousand passing
Speaker 1: yards and five hundred rushing yards, only behind Josh Allen.
Speaker 6: And rushing day against the Yes he did.
Speaker 3: The facts are he has the capability of ready.
Speaker 1: He was also top five in rushing yards by a
Speaker 1: quarterback last year, behind only Justin Fields, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts. He was above everybody else in here.
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray, Cakyler Murray would run circles with Kyler Murray
Speaker 3: was seventh. I understand what I'm saying. So we're talking
Speaker 3: about capabilities. Are we talking about how the team utilizes them?
Speaker 3: Like those two different things?
Speaker 4: Two things?
Speaker 3: So we're talking about skill set, skill set? He is
Speaker 3: not even close in the top five of athe leticism
Speaker 3: of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about dual
Speaker 1: thread ability, and again that includes throwing the ball.
Speaker 3: So how they utilize him is totally different than how
Speaker 3: the skill set what he's capable of doing if everything
Speaker 3: is covered, because most of the time he gets his
Speaker 3: rushing yards because everybody's covered and nobody's really concerned about
Speaker 3: rushing him, right, So of course you're going to take
Speaker 3: off and get what you can get. Every every offense
Speaker 3: isn't necessarily set up that way. Dak Prescott has more
Speaker 3: Russian capabilities of Danny Dines. But guess what, he's been
Speaker 3: a little tentative over the past few years, so he's
Speaker 3: not going to take off past a lot of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: Now that most likely would change this year. But he's
Speaker 3: definitely somebody you have to respect. He's not he doesn't
Speaker 3: look like he's the most athletic guy, but if you
Speaker 3: don't pay attention to him, he'll take off on you.
Speaker 3: He'll make you pay for it. He'll move the chains
Speaker 3: and that's all he wants to do. He's not trying
Speaker 3: to score touchdowns off a running He's just trying to
Speaker 3: move the chains and keep this offense on the field, and.
Speaker 6: He had him in the top five. Who were your five? Again?
Speaker 1: I had Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, and Justin
Speaker 1: and Fields ahead of him. And that's mostly because I
Speaker 1: think Daniel Jones is a better passer than Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: and so that's the why I had it there.
Speaker 6: My other factor in this is if.
Speaker 1: We're talking athleticism completely separate, absolutely, but in terms of
Speaker 1: complete package, is a dual threat quarterback. I would have
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones above Kyler Murray right now.
Speaker 6: Would you have him above Patrick Mahomes?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Probably not so that I would push out of the
Speaker 1: top five.
Speaker 6: Then, if Daniel Jones had good point Patrick Mahomes' arm talent,
Speaker 6: he would not be running as much. And that's why
Speaker 6: I don't think that Patrick runs nearly as much as
Speaker 6: he could.
Speaker 1: Mahomes was ninth in rushing yards last year, and I
Speaker 1: would agree with you on that.
Speaker 6: I mean, he takes some hits that even then I'm
Speaker 6: just kind of like, you don't need to top six.
Speaker 1: He's barely slipping in the top ten for me, kay,
Speaker 1: Would you put Geno above him?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? I don't think I would gas faster than Danny
Speaker 3: Dimes talking about talking about package, what do you guys
Speaker 3: consider duability his ability to sit back in the pocket
Speaker 3: and throw and ability to throw in a run CORRECTCT
Speaker 3: and run.
Speaker 4: And you guys are.
Speaker 3: Saying Danny has more ability than Gino Smith in that regard.
Speaker 4: I think so. I think it's closed, But yeah, I
Speaker 4: think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too, Man Seattle guy.
Speaker 6: Before last year, I would have said, yeah, no question,
Speaker 6: But Gino was.
Speaker 9: He was good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like you guys, but you guys, yeah, no,
Speaker 6: I don't know man Gino. I do want to see
Speaker 6: another year from him, But man, last year was.
Speaker 5: I guess to your point, Isaiah, you could factor in
Speaker 5: the fact that Gino has a lot more weapons available,
Speaker 5: so he doesn't necessarily have to do as much as
Speaker 5: Danny did at.
Speaker 4: Times last year.
Speaker 5: But whenever Danny needed to get out of the pocket,
Speaker 5: hey we picked up some extra yard and she did.
Speaker 3: How things pan out versus how things are what they're
Speaker 3: capable of, those.
Speaker 1: Are two two different things, for sure.
Speaker 4: But you also have to look at the results on
Speaker 4: the table sometimes.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm not a stats guy. That's why I'm
Speaker 3: not a stat.
Speaker 1: Wins versus lost.
Speaker 3: Guy, absolutely me.
Speaker 6: Let me ask you this then, would you?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't. I mean listening to if Dak
Speaker 3: Prescott throws for five hundred yards this year, but the
Speaker 3: Gallas Cowboys win every game, I don't give a doug
Speaker 3: on you still he still you know, he probably make
Speaker 3: ad decision, you know. So when it comes down to that,
Speaker 3: I don't care in regards to a lot of stats.
Speaker 3: But in terms of when I think about dual threat quarterback,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about their ability to have speed, agility, arm strength,
Speaker 3: and accuracy.
Speaker 6: Okay, so maybe not on the accuracy part on what
Speaker 6: I'm about to ask you, but all the other ones,
Speaker 6: like Justin Fields just knocks it out of the park. Athleticism, Yeah,
Speaker 6: how would you feel if you were an NFL GM
Speaker 6: if I had if I was like you got to
Speaker 6: pick for your team going forward, Daniel Jones or Justin Fields?
Speaker 6: Where would you go on?
Speaker 3: That depends on who the coaches are.
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're the least close though, So you're you're
Speaker 1: talking utilization.
Speaker 3: But I mean some things can't be taught, right, That's
Speaker 3: why athleticism can't be taught. But you can If a
Speaker 3: guy is willing to learn and capable of learning, you
Speaker 3: could turn an athletic quarterback into an absolute beast of
Speaker 3: a player. Danny Dimes has a cap on how good
Speaker 3: he can be physically, there's a app on it. Yeah, Right,
Speaker 3: at some point in time you have to sit back
Speaker 3: and say, Okay, now we have to strategize him being
Speaker 3: in the pocket for the most part. Right, you take
Speaker 3: Austin Fields, a Trey Lance, uh, whoever else you want
Speaker 3: to put out there, Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes, all these
Speaker 3: other guys are way more athletic than Danny Dimes and
Speaker 3: put them in an offense that allows for them to
Speaker 3: run a ball, they run his zone read and things
Speaker 3: like that. They of course their stats are going to
Speaker 3: show that they're that they're more capable, But in terms
Speaker 3: of their physical aspect, like these guys, it's night and day.
Speaker 6: Have you ever mentioned Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He barely I mean, Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts is number two one or maybe one on that list.
Speaker 3: That depends.
Speaker 1: I would have to actually look down at it.
Speaker 3: There's no different than the conversation you guys had about
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, right, Jalen Hurts didn't have great status and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the system, the system is what
Speaker 3: the system is.
Speaker 6: Out to your point about that tell me who the
Speaker 6: coach is. Absolutely, that was. That's a big factor there
Speaker 6: for sure.
Speaker 1: And the coaches in New York take advantage of Danny
Speaker 1: Dimes and his ability. I mean, that's that's part of it.
Speaker 1: Is Josh allen Esh, you you play with the card
Speaker 1: value jet Absolutely is.
Speaker 3: Josh allen Esh. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 5: He's six five, two thirty and he runs for seven
Speaker 5: hundred yards and not eight running straight.
Speaker 3: He's gonna run straight. You're not worried about him making
Speaker 3: a man miss right, But if you don't, if you
Speaker 3: don't keep your eyes on him, Yeah, he's gonna burn
Speaker 3: you for a first now, but you're not. But you
Speaker 3: take him and you take a Kyler Murray and those
Speaker 3: guys get outside of the pocket. You're not threatened by
Speaker 3: j about by Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: The way that you're That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like, but if you don't pay, if he gets outside
Speaker 1: the pocket and there's a receiver open thirty five yards down,
Speaker 1: feel better, you more upset or are you more concerned
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones? Are you're more concerned with Kyler Murray?
Speaker 6: Murray ky m all day, yeah, all day.
Speaker 3: Way more powerful arm, Yeah, way more powerful ARM. I
Speaker 3: don't know about way more eighty r versus eighty yards
Speaker 3: versus sixty five yards, that's a big difference.
Speaker 1: Eighty yards.
Speaker 3: I could throw eighty yards, scut. I know you Calum
Speaker 3: Murray can throw absolutely all.
Speaker 1: Right, We're gonna take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 1: Kind of pairing the two together. We talked about Saquon Barkley,
Speaker 1: We've talked about Daniel Jones, but then there's a read
Speaker 1: option game. Who has to stay disciplined on the Cowboys
Speaker 1: front seven in order to take that away from New
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Speaker 1: Nick Harris, John Machoda, Isaiah stand backam Kyle Yeomans with
Speaker 1: Chris Beam in the back. We talked a lot about
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and his mobile ability, but really it's the
Speaker 1: way he's utilized. As to Isaiah's point, Brian dabol does
Speaker 1: a phenomenal job of allowing him to get into space
Speaker 1: and allowing him to carry the football with confidence. Part
Speaker 1: of that stems from the read option, and part of
Speaker 1: that stems from allowing a defense to make a decision.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to give Nick Harris, I want you
Speaker 1: to start things off. Give me one player that has
Speaker 1: to stay ultra disciplined against the Giants offense this week
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys defense that has to stay disciplined against
Speaker 1: that readoption in order for them to be successful.
Speaker 5: I mean, it always plays into the defensive ends, and
Speaker 5: you want your best rush defender to play at his best.
Speaker 5: So I would say DeMarcus Lawrence coming off the end.
Speaker 5: You know, I want him to stay disciplined there and
Speaker 5: that seals off that side of things. You know Michael Parsons,
Speaker 5: I would like to see how he improves in the
Speaker 5: running game this year, and I think this is going
Speaker 5: to be a very fun test in week one. But
Speaker 5: I want DeMarcus Lawrence just to you know, quiet all
Speaker 5: of the weird hate that he got during training camp
Speaker 5: and just go ahead.
Speaker 4: And bawl out on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Somebody, I think Dan Quinn was the one that told me.
Speaker 1: It was a conversation late in camp. It was like
Speaker 1: two or three days before we left, maybe even closer
Speaker 1: to that. Somebody told me he thought Daniel or DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence had his best camp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, since he's been Mike McCarthy said that in his
Speaker 4: press conference.
Speaker 1: Maybe that was Mike that said.
Speaker 4: Maybe it was staying the said in his press conference.
Speaker 1: I think one of the two it's important people that
Speaker 1: did it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, his two bosses and Mike. Mike made it, you know,
Speaker 6: I want to say it was him and it was
Speaker 6: since he's been the head coach.
Speaker 1: So it's the best four years.
Speaker 6: I think the big thing with the Marcus is just
Speaker 6: he's he's healthy right now. And I don't know this
Speaker 6: to be a fact. I'm just throwing this out there.
Speaker 6: I kind of he hasn't been in the locker room
Speaker 6: a ton. I kind of think he's avoiding, like he
Speaker 6: doesn't want a bunch because he knows that that's gonna
Speaker 6: be one of the first thing you're gonna talk about, like, oh,
Speaker 6: you're so healthy, you're playing great. Where when you're a
Speaker 6: veteran like him, you don't even want to talk about
Speaker 6: it stuff. You just want to play. You don't want
Speaker 6: to even harp on like oh yeah, yeah, I'm finally
Speaker 6: healthy and stuff like that. You don't want to, you know,
Speaker 6: almost drink it. I mean, it's pretty tough to be
Speaker 6: in pro sports, and I have a little superstition to you.
Speaker 6: So no, Laurence is a great one for that for sure.
Speaker 1: Do you load the box Isaiah against New York In
Speaker 1: that case, Dallas didn't load the box a whole lot
Speaker 1: last year, but they had success in doing so. Do
Speaker 1: you do you load it up because of the threat
Speaker 1: of the run and maybe to help out the Reds
Speaker 1: In terms of the guys on the edge, I do not, And.
Speaker 3: I my player that I believe needs to be the
Speaker 3: most disciplined that's going to be demonk Clark reason being
Speaker 3: at the defensive line position. Whenever you're facing your zone read,
Speaker 3: your coach is simply asking you to, yeah, be aware,
Speaker 3: but more so be decisive because if you're decisive, then
Speaker 3: your second level defenders can now adjust off of you. Right,
Speaker 3: But if you're caught in no man's land, they don't
Speaker 3: really know where to go. So d'mond Clark, the reason
Speaker 3: why I believe that he has to be the most
Speaker 3: disciplined with his eyes in particular, is because it's hard.
Speaker 3: You're ready sitting, you know, three to five yards off
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. You're responsible for coming downhill and
Speaker 3: filling gaps, but you're also responsible for playing at the
Speaker 3: second level defender. So as you start talking about the zone,
Speaker 3: zone reads and things of that nature, and well you
Speaker 3: have to start talking about RPO because you can't just
Speaker 3: play the zone read aspect of this RPO. There's two
Speaker 3: guys that can run the ball, and there's routes that
Speaker 3: are going on behind you as well. So if Deamond
Speaker 3: Clark fully commits at that second level and comes downhill,
Speaker 3: now there's a gay hole behind him for those slants. Right,
Speaker 3: So those quick little quick zone rings and it boom, pop,
Speaker 3: little quick little pop passes what we call them, whether
Speaker 3: it be to Darren Waller coming off the ball and
Speaker 3: turning right behind the first level, or whether it be
Speaker 3: Slayton or one of those guys getting it at the
Speaker 3: second level. So that's those linebackers. Is really tough on them.
Speaker 3: Talk about a Marque's Bell, Jamon Jay, Ron Curst, those
Speaker 3: guys walking down and playing the end of that second
Speaker 3: level as well. It's really hard on those guys. It's
Speaker 3: really difficult.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the RPO throws a really fun wrinkling all that.
Speaker 5: So I like the Damone Clark pick there and him
Speaker 5: and Lawrence are gonna have to work together anyway, you know,
Speaker 5: coming off that same side, so it kind of goes
Speaker 5: hand in hand for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure, Dallas last year had a fifty nine percent
Speaker 1: success rate when a lining six or fewer defenders in
Speaker 1: the box. That was seventh best in the NFL. So
Speaker 1: they had success in doing so. A big reason for
Speaker 1: that was Lton vander Esh and having Anthony Barr there
Speaker 1: too that were able to kind of combine on the
Speaker 1: edge and kind of fill those holes. But it also
Speaker 1: played a factor with Donovan will I mean the fact
Speaker 1: that Donovan Wilson could come down and shoot the gap
Speaker 1: and fill those holes well, and you're not probably gonna
Speaker 1: have Donovan. Do you has to get an update.
Speaker 3: I don't have an up, Billy. Yeah, it's very question.
Speaker 6: It goes all the way back to the start of
Speaker 6: training camp. It's yeah, this calf injury, So yeah, I
Speaker 6: wouldn't I wouldn't count on it. And if he does,
Speaker 6: then you're you know, it's a pleasant surprise. But fortunately
Speaker 6: for them, that's one of the deepest positions on the team.
Speaker 6: So yeah, when you were saying that about the guys,
Speaker 6: I'm glad you mentioned Curse because that is definitely someone
Speaker 6: that stands out to me just because of he's gonna
Speaker 6: have the big assignment of being on Waller. And I
Speaker 6: really feel like, if you can tell me that Jay
Speaker 6: Run Curse is going to have a really good game,
Speaker 6: I think things are going to go really well for
Speaker 6: their defense.
Speaker 1: How much does Waller add to this offense for the Giants,
Speaker 1: because that's an element that they've had in the past,
Speaker 1: but not necessarily the same level of Darren Waller specifically.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they've hoped for it. I mean that's why they
Speaker 6: drafted you know, Evan Ingram, and that didn't work.
Speaker 3: Out.
Speaker 6: But it's tough because I can't see her and say
Speaker 6: I've watched their training camp. But if Daniel Jones are
Speaker 6: on the same page and that's you know, Daniel Jones's guy, yeah,
Speaker 6: that could be huge. I mean you've seen it when
Speaker 6: we talk about you know, Brady and Gronkowski, or you
Speaker 6: obviously talk about Mahomes and Kelsey. That can be huge.
Speaker 6: I mean, but that goes back to what the point
Speaker 6: I was making earlier. It's like you have Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 6: You draft these offensive linemen, but you just haven't had
Speaker 6: that perimeter threat to kind of make them pay, not
Speaker 6: just Cowboys, but any opposing team. So maybe that is
Speaker 6: Waller if he's healthy. But I find it hard to
Speaker 6: believe that they part ways with him for I think
Speaker 6: it was a third round pick. If they thought Darren
Speaker 6: Waller was still the once it was twenty twenty, he
Speaker 6: made the Pro Bowl, I think that was it. That
Speaker 6: was his best year and he obviously was great double but.
Speaker 3: He had some interest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, yeah, there, that's the big thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's healthy, he's still legitimate.
Speaker 3: He's a problem. He's never been known for being the
Speaker 3: biggest blocker. He is a receiving, big tight end. He's
Speaker 3: freaking massive.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3: Yes, this is my question. Nobody, they're not talking enough.
Speaker 3: Conversation isn't being had about Donovan Wilson's potential options in
Speaker 3: this game. The impact that he has on defense is
Speaker 3: absolutely insane. Him being gone, you have to feel that void. Yes,
Speaker 3: you can rotate another player in there, and they are deep.
Speaker 3: They have Marque's Bill, they have one y A. Thomas.
Speaker 3: Both of those guys had amazing camps. My question is
Speaker 3: with a Darren Waller, right, there's a couple of guys
Speaker 3: that you kind of have to just counsel out because
Speaker 3: you can't allow Darren Waller to sit up there and
Speaker 3: have a field day of eight to ten catches for
Speaker 3: you know, ninety plus yards. He would destroy you in
Speaker 3: that regard. Do you take Curse and place Curse on
Speaker 3: him to and put him on that matchup or would
Speaker 3: you bring in Israel Mikuamu who's a better pass defender
Speaker 3: and let him take Darren Waller and allow Curse to
Speaker 3: play more in the box.
Speaker 5: I'm starting with Curse, and if it doesn't work out,
Speaker 5: then you adjust, but I'm starting with Curse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, same here. I completely agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would start with curse there too.
Speaker 1: I know you're asking this question because we were in
Speaker 1: studio yesterday, Yeah, trying to figure out the same thing
Speaker 1: for Hitsticks. We were trying to make the adjustments for
Speaker 1: No Donovan Wilson in the fold. Where do you go?
Speaker 1: I feel like you have a different answer to that question.
Speaker 3: I don't disagree that I would start there, but I would.
Speaker 3: I would make his life complete hell by the office, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I would. I personally would put mcwambo in there to
Speaker 3: just stay in his hip pocket long rangey. You can't.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna run a round on them. There's nothing
Speaker 3: that There's nothing that Darren Waller's gonna do that's gonna
Speaker 3: really allow for himself to have a one to two
Speaker 3: yard separation, right, and you have this lanky arms, right,
Speaker 3: So in terms of body frame, I think it's a
Speaker 3: heck of a matchup. In terms of footwork, you have
Speaker 3: to give the footwork to Israel mcuambo right, his ability
Speaker 3: to be able to guard every route that Darren Waller
Speaker 3: would run. I know a lot of people are gonna say, well,
Speaker 3: mcwambo again, you have curse. You know it's about taking
Speaker 3: what guys do best and the reason why you have
Speaker 3: depth at these positions because all these guys do something different,
Speaker 3: they all bring a different valuable asset to this team.
Speaker 3: I think this is a week where mccuamo is better
Speaker 3: fit to stick on Waller and allow Curse to be
Speaker 3: that running that Ren enforcement in the box to take
Speaker 3: away Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 10: I like that.
Speaker 4: Who do you think is more physical? Jay Runner is
Speaker 4: real Kambo?
Speaker 3: It is all day long. You think I'm sorry, sorry, Jem,
Speaker 3: sorry sorry.
Speaker 1: You said it was like wait, sorry, that's.
Speaker 4: Fine, that's fine.
Speaker 5: Then it comes down to how physical do you think
Speaker 5: Darren Waller is. If you think mukamu can handle that challenge,
Speaker 5: then okay.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's his best asset. I don't think
Speaker 3: anybody is ever Darren Waller is a maaller.
Speaker 4: Yeah absolutely not never right, but you.
Speaker 3: But you always fear his ability to be a pass catcher,
Speaker 3: run down and feeling.
Speaker 1: When he was when he was making the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, he he was a little more physical
Speaker 1: than I think.
Speaker 4: The contested catches were there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was physical, physicality and ball catching rather than
Speaker 5: physicality route running.
Speaker 4: So then that makes sense with Mukammu.
Speaker 5: You you would rather have him in coverage or i'm sorry,
Speaker 5: in ball skill coverage whenever the balls in the air.
Speaker 5: So I understand that line of thinking, but I want
Speaker 5: I don't even want to.
Speaker 3: I just I'm saying that because I know most people
Speaker 3: out there are going to go against what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 3: but I'm thinking about it from straight attributes. From straight attributes.
Speaker 3: If you're going off for attributes alone, and what are
Speaker 3: you trying to take away I'm going with mcwamball, I'm
Speaker 3: not trying to take a better overall player off the field.
Speaker 3: I'm just simply saying, allow curse to be a reinforcement
Speaker 3: at the second level to take away their best player, right,
Speaker 3: and let MCWAMA take away one of their best passing threats.
Speaker 6: It was interesting too you mentioned about Donovan Wilson. I'm
Speaker 6: huge on Probably my favorite saying is just because it's
Speaker 6: proven to be so true in my life as actions
Speaker 6: speak louder than words, and man, the way free agency
Speaker 6: started and when they went after Donovan Wilson, the way
Speaker 6: that they did it made it so clear how important
Speaker 6: he was. Because you know, when you talk about the
Speaker 6: Cowboys defense. I mean, where does he even come in
Speaker 6: the ranking of how much you're talking about somebody. He's
Speaker 6: not in the top two, three, four guys that you
Speaker 6: talk about. But the way they went after him in
Speaker 6: free agency just made it very clear of the importance,
Speaker 6: like you said, and it's just easy to forget about
Speaker 6: him because he's a later round pick. He's a guy
Speaker 6: that we haven't seen much this year because of the
Speaker 6: injury in training camp. But yeah, there's no question that
Speaker 6: they feel, Yeah, this could be a major hit not
Speaker 6: having him on the field because because of his importance
Speaker 6: that maybe doesn't always show up in all the areas
Speaker 6: that get you on TV.
Speaker 3: Name your top three enforcers, physical enforcers.
Speaker 6: On his own, he's definitely on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's up there. Yeah, they talk about somebody who's
Speaker 3: a tone.
Speaker 1: SETUP would probably say Wilson, not in any particular order.
Speaker 1: Wilson Micah. Micah just had the flash places I did
Speaker 1: what it could and sneakily, I would say Leyton vander
Speaker 1: USh at the second level, he came down, he can
Speaker 1: come downhill and hit you a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think he's more of a tackler than a hitter.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair, but I still think he plugs the
Speaker 1: gaps the way that I want you.
Speaker 3: So the reason why I bring that up is because
Speaker 3: Wilson's absence, if he's gone, if he's not present in
Speaker 3: this game, which I think we're all kind of in
Speaker 3: accordance that the chances are he's probably not, that's a huge,
Speaker 3: huge void in terms of energy, in terms of somebody
Speaker 3: that can come downhill and make a big hit and
Speaker 3: just really just turned the momentum. That's huge, especially at
Speaker 3: the second level. Third level, all right, he works his
Speaker 3: way down to the second level. Who else is bringing that?
Speaker 6: Man, It's tough for me, even after him and Mike
Speaker 6: I even to.
Speaker 3: Come up with that third exactly exactly.
Speaker 6: I mean, there's the potential for Demon Clark, but but
Speaker 6: I mean he has to get there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see what I'm saying. Yeah, there's this major
Speaker 3: So that's I want. I just want the fans out
Speaker 3: there to understand Donald not being on the field, that's
Speaker 3: a void. Now, just because you can put another guy
Speaker 3: in it that could run around, doesn't mean that you're
Speaker 3: going to feel what he brings. Because his intensity is
Speaker 3: second to none except for Micah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right by the way, I saw stat this morning
Speaker 1: about Donovan Wilson that blew my mind. He was the
Speaker 1: fifth fewest targeted EPA in the NFL last year. That's
Speaker 1: in terms of safeties, so out of the safety groups
Speaker 1: in the AFL, he was the fifth fewest ep A
Speaker 1: on targets last year behind Poyer, Simmons, Neil.
Speaker 3: That's some good dudes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess that that's three, but yeah, Poyer, Simmons, Neil,
Speaker 1: then it's Wilson and actually Malie Cooker is up there
Speaker 1: as well, so you've got multiple guys there. But terms
Speaker 1: of EPA, which is expected points? What is that?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: On average? I believe sell ya expected points added, That's
Speaker 1: what it is. That's what the expected points added new metric.
Speaker 1: In the NFL, he was top five.
Speaker 3: In terms of sting keep your hand on a swiveling.
Speaker 1: So not having him in the fold this week could
Speaker 1: be big. All right, We've got to take our second
Speaker 1: break when we come back and put a question on
Speaker 1: Twitter last night, got some responses. I'm going to see
Speaker 1: what y'all's response are. What three cowboys are you most
Speaker 1: excited to watch in twenty twenty three? And it could
Speaker 1: be for any reason whatsoever. We'll answer that question when
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Speaker 1: Welcome back in to Talking Cowboys on a Wednesday in
Speaker 1: week one. All right, I put the question out there
Speaker 1: and you can also add in your answers to this question.
Speaker 1: Textus at eight one seven two nine zero three two
Speaker 1: nine eight. Again, that's eight one seven two nine zero
Speaker 1: three two nine eight. What three cowboys are you most
Speaker 1: excited to watch? In twenty twenty three? I had like
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy responses on this yesterday.
Speaker 3: A lot of followers.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I really don't. I would love
Speaker 1: some numb just kidding, uh, but yeah, we got a
Speaker 1: ton of responses and it's really all over the place,
Speaker 1: which is part of partially why I put the question
Speaker 1: out there. I don't have a for sure answer. I
Speaker 1: do now, but at least whenever I was doing it,
Speaker 1: I didn't have a for sure answer. I want to
Speaker 1: see what y'all think, Nick, who would be your top
Speaker 1: three guys to watch?
Speaker 5: I'm going to start just guys. I'm personally excited to
Speaker 5: see exactly that's purely what it is here. Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 5: I'm really excited to see what he can calling to
Speaker 5: this offense. I'm really excited about that Dak in this
Speaker 5: new offense, just how that looks. And Stefan Gilmore I
Speaker 5: for some reason, and I just feel like he's not.
Speaker 4: Being talked about enough. I just I don't feel like
Speaker 4: he is. I feel like we just need to be
Speaker 4: banging Stefan's name a little bit more.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 1: You have the starting quarterback and the two former Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl additions. Yep. On the answer, I guess not not Cooks.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately he should.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's Trouble, not Aproble.
Speaker 1: Never never made a Pro Bowl, which is weird. But hey,
Speaker 1: maybe this year, maybe this the first time for everything.
Speaker 6: What do you think those are all? Great?
Speaker 8: Number?
Speaker 6: One for me is too just Fawn that was a
Speaker 6: popular one. Yeah. I just want to see how they're
Speaker 6: going to utilize him.
Speaker 3: And uh, what's the original question?
Speaker 1: What are the top three guys you're looking forward to
Speaker 1: the most on this Cowboys team.
Speaker 6: I also think in year three, Micah Parsons can still
Speaker 6: take another step. So he has to be on my list,
Speaker 6: and if I have to pick someone that you haven't said,
Speaker 6: I would also go because Cooks is definitely on.
Speaker 2: There for me.
Speaker 6: Man, He's been to me super impressive all the way
Speaker 6: from the start of training camp. Kind of going back
Speaker 6: to what I said about Okay, well, I got to
Speaker 6: see Daniel Jones's rapport with with Waller. If I was
Speaker 6: at the Giants training camp and it looked like the
Speaker 6: report I've seen with Dak and Cooks, I'd be like, Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a big year for Waller. Cooks and
Speaker 6: him have been on the same page. Honestly takes me
Speaker 6: back to how quick Amari Cooper and Dak got on
Speaker 6: the same page after Maury was traded. Here, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: have to go jail in Tolbert and just because with
Speaker 6: the way that football's played nowadays, even if you are
Speaker 6: the fourth receiver and everyone the top three stay healthy,
Speaker 6: he's still going to get opportunities. And he just didn't
Speaker 6: get many opportunities last year because I mean, he'll say it.
Speaker 6: It just you know, he wasn't where he needed to
Speaker 6: be in the playbook and for his assignments. And so
Speaker 6: I'm interested to see what kind of impact he can make,
Speaker 6: because to me, he's the type of guy where I
Speaker 6: would try and get him the ball pretty early just
Speaker 6: to kind of build some confidence in some certain situation.
Speaker 6: I'm not talking like opening series or anything, but I
Speaker 6: don't want to come out of this first game without
Speaker 6: giving him a touch or two.
Speaker 3: What's you think, Isaiah, I have two off top Damone Clark.
Speaker 4: That was my honorable mention.
Speaker 3: Ye's good one. I think DAMONK. Clark is going to
Speaker 3: be one of, if not the most impactful defensive player
Speaker 3: on his team. I mean on the side of stat line.
Speaker 3: I know Michael would get a sacks and all that,
Speaker 3: but Demon Clark is gonna have a heck of a
Speaker 3: year and.
Speaker 6: He's finally healthy. And that's the thing people forget sometimes
Speaker 6: that neck injury he had. I'm telling you, I'll never
Speaker 6: forget seeing it his locker. First time he talked to
Speaker 6: us and he was like, I've never had anything before this.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: That's the same thing with Michael Gallup and the injury.
Speaker 6: Like it's not like that. You know, it's easy with football.
Speaker 6: I think like, oh, these guys are just one major
Speaker 6: injury after another. Some guys don't have that, and that
Speaker 6: that Dimone Clark thing was an outlier for him. That's
Speaker 6: why he was surprised at the combine when they were.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, by the way, here's your neck.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, sorry going.
Speaker 3: No, you're good. Damone Clark, Tony Pollard. I think he's
Speaker 3: gonna play lights out this year because he wants the
Speaker 3: bag and then the third one. Hmmm. I think Dax's
Speaker 3: gonna have a much improved year. But I think, hm, hmm,
Speaker 3: it's very difficult.
Speaker 1: I want to say Ferguson, Yeah, that's that was actually
Speaker 1: a sneaky popular answer on.
Speaker 3: A lot of the Ferguson I think that he needs
Speaker 3: to have a big year. I'm just not sure how
Speaker 3: big of a year that would be.
Speaker 1: Both Ferguson and schoon Maker were mentioned.
Speaker 4: What would be a big year for Ferguson in your eyes?
Speaker 3: Not even stats wise. I just think that he needs
Speaker 3: to have a heck of a year at the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't have to be sad, Yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 3: He needs to have a heck of a year at
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: He shown improvement in that he has, he really has,
Speaker 4: and I'm excited for.
Speaker 3: I think in order for this offense to go, you
Speaker 3: need both of your starting tight ends to have an
Speaker 3: impact in that running game. You're gonna see them come
Speaker 3: out in a lot of douce sets where tight ends
Speaker 3: on each side and they can audible to either side,
Speaker 3: not knowing what direction you're running or passing, play action,
Speaker 3: all those things. Those tight ends are going to be
Speaker 3: heavily involved in this offense. There's gonna be a lot
Speaker 3: of two tight end sets, a ton of two tight
Speaker 3: end sets. So Schoonmaker, wake up, get going, and then Fergie,
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to he has to have a good
Speaker 3: year in order for this offense to go. And everybody
Speaker 3: talking about the old line obviously as we should, but
Speaker 3: those tight ends are going to play just as much
Speaker 3: of a role into this blocking scheme as is the
Speaker 3: office in linement.
Speaker 1: Are the the limit of three guys made things tough
Speaker 1: on this question, because there's you could probably pair guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think just pairing the wide receivers in
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks would be fun. Stefan Gilmore and Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 1: and then Seeedee Lamb and Brandon Cooks. I think that
Speaker 1: would be a whole lot of fun. My three guys
Speaker 1: are Micah, CD and Cooks at the top without I mean,
Speaker 1: of course, doubling up on some of the things that
Speaker 1: y'all have talked about. I just have so much excitement
Speaker 1: to see this wide receiver corps really take off, take
Speaker 1: to the next level. And then I think Micah the
Speaker 1: way that he dominated and practice at times at training camp,
Speaker 1: I think he can take that to the game too,
Speaker 1: and just see that next step kind of like what
Speaker 1: we talked about yesterday with the pass rush and getting
Speaker 1: up to maybe close to twenty sacks. I think that's
Speaker 1: possible if he stays healthy through an entire seventeen game season.
Speaker 1: There's there's possibilities. One other I want to throw in.
Speaker 6: There, one other, one of the I'm just kind of
Speaker 6: surprised that no one said, but I'm sure you did
Speaker 6: in your.
Speaker 4: Let me going.
Speaker 1: I think Sam Williams that was what mine was gonna be.
Speaker 6: I'm just thinking of covering it up NFL football team.
Speaker 6: When you ask questions like that and you get enough people,
Speaker 6: you think eventually somebody says the first round draft pick.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, it popped in my mind when you were talking,
Speaker 4: But none of us are going to say.
Speaker 1: I want to see, Yeah, I want to see going down.
Speaker 3: I have a name that nobody's going to say, who
Speaker 3: Zach Martin.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 3: I believe that this will be the most challenging year
Speaker 3: for him in terms of talent that he's facing.
Speaker 1: Mm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting week in and week out. Yeah, this
Speaker 3: is I think this is the strongest that this division
Speaker 3: has been on the interior deepest line in a very
Speaker 3: long time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because every every team has guys right there at
Speaker 5: that three epect that are gonna be ready to roll.
Speaker 1: I'm still scrolling and I haven't seen a single Massie Smith, which.
Speaker 6: Is everybody You've seen a lot of that we didn't mention.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of deuce. Mic is probably far
Speaker 1: and away the number one.
Speaker 6: I think Micah's If you pose that question, like on
Speaker 6: like an NFL level, I think there'd be Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3: On a lot of those, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I do have one Masi here. It was tweeted an
Speaker 1: hour ago, and I tweeted this eighteen hours ago. So
Speaker 1: that's the first Mazie that I've seen. But he got
Speaker 1: in there, got in there. A lot of Mazzi, couple,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallops sneaking in there too, because they want to
Speaker 1: see him fully healthy back into it. I get that
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs, Trayvon Diggs hasn't really been talked about a
Speaker 1: whole lot, Tyler Smith, Donovan Wilson whenever they're both healthy
Speaker 1: and fully ready to go. But yeah, a lot. Honestly,
Speaker 1: the sneaky ones were Ferguson, Deuce and Scoon Maker. Lots
Speaker 1: of those answers scattered throughout. But that just goes to
Speaker 1: what we've talked about on this show already, is that
Speaker 1: there are weapons on this team. Their roster built, This
Speaker 1: roster is built to do something. You just got to
Speaker 1: put it all together. You got to find a way
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 5: But I want to throw in a really quick one. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm excited for Layton vander Ush's evil off ball twin,
Speaker 5: which is the on ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I'm excited to see.
Speaker 6: Let's tell us right now. I don't know if I
Speaker 6: should be saying the sign here, but I'm just gonna
Speaker 6: say it. And I wasn't there for that last last
Speaker 6: week of training camp, Okay, but I they'll watch everything
Speaker 6: that's out there. And when you asked him about Leaden
Speaker 6: vander I have never seen Dan Quinn answer a question
Speaker 6: like that. Like it literally was one of those things
Speaker 6: where you know, you're eating some cereal, you're doing some
Speaker 6: our things, and it was one of those things where
Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, let me wind that back. Did
Speaker 6: he really say didn't know he was talking about?
Speaker 4: Let me write that.
Speaker 5: I actually kind of felt better. What about for the
Speaker 5: press or. I was like, hey, man, I wasn't trying
Speaker 5: to call out anything. He's like, honestly, it's all good man.
Speaker 5: He's like, I had my wife text me about it
Speaker 5: this morning. I'm like, dang, it's getting out. I'm like, yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 5: there's cameras here. But he's like, no, it's all good man.
Speaker 6: I mean people are you.
Speaker 5: Actually saw me in Seattle too, like out in the
Speaker 5: city and Layton happened to be with him, and he
Speaker 5: was like, I was just telling Layton about your question
Speaker 5: the press conference. I was like, Hey, it's good to
Speaker 5: know you're not madam you man, that's cool.
Speaker 9: Hey.
Speaker 6: Yeah. There were just there were drills out in training
Speaker 6: camp where it's just late and with with uh with
Speaker 6: Ed and Dirday just working on Pastor's things in between
Speaker 6: other drills and swimming for like and then there's no
Speaker 6: questions going to do it week one. But it was
Speaker 6: just funny that when he asked it and the last
Speaker 6: week of training camp that don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: It was not familiar with that alignment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, let's keep going.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: All right? That does it for us. Here on Talking
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Speaker 1: blitz heavy defenses in the NFL last year. How can
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Speaker 1: excited about this preview. I think it'll be a lot
Speaker 1: of fun tomorrow. We've got to do some more film
Speaker 1: study tonight to get ready for it, but that doesn't
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