WEBVTT - Our Failed Democracy

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to will Gate f Daily

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<v Speaker 1>with Meet your Girl Daniel Moody, recording from the Bunker, Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to say that as I continue to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure that you all are as well, all

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<v Speaker 1>of the reports coming out not only from this country

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<v Speaker 1>but around the globe as it pertains to global warming

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<v Speaker 1>and climate, the climate crisis that we are seeing in

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<v Speaker 1>real time, all of the things that scientists. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>remember when we used to actually listen to scientists and

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<v Speaker 1>believe them as a whole entire country until Republicans decided

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<v Speaker 1>that they would have their own scientists and their own

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<v Speaker 1>alternative facts and then distort reality. Well, now their warnings

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<v Speaker 1>have come to pass. And the thing that I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>as I listened to President Biden talk to the American

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<v Speaker 1>people about the crisis that we're in and false short

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<v Speaker 1>of issuing a public health emergency around climate change, is

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<v Speaker 1>are we just too late? You know? I've been watching

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<v Speaker 1>videos all over social media of the tarmac at Heathrow

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<v Speaker 1>Airport that fucking melted, of a sinkhole that swallowed up

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<v Speaker 1>nearly half of a goddamn street in the Bronx in

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<v Speaker 1>New York after the rain that we just got in.

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<v Speaker 1>There was entire once again subway stations that turned into

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<v Speaker 1>geyser's You're talking about the state of Texas issuing like

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<v Speaker 1>a series of alerts because they are experiencing one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen degree temperatures for a number of days in

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<v Speaker 1>a row. Where we're talking about drought, where we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a food shortage, We're talking about all of these

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<v Speaker 1>things that have now just blown out of control. We

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<v Speaker 1>had twenty thirty year lead time to avoid this, to

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<v Speaker 1>actually create policies and initiatives that supposedly where people were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to come together in the Paris Climate Agreement to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and then come to find out this week that not

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<v Speaker 1>one country, not one of them that signed onto the

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<v Speaker 1>Paris Climate Agreement, is on track to deliver what it

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<v Speaker 1>was that they said that they would deliver to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So the world is on fucking fire. No one has

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure built to sustain the rising temperatures that are now

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the norm, and what we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to see is the chain reaction of events that are

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<v Speaker 1>going to come to pass. I talked about this yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to the price of food, the price of water, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Because what's going to happen is that as folks are

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to water their lawns or keep their plants alive,

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<v Speaker 1>you have farmers that are trying to water their produce

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<v Speaker 1>in order to keep us alive. You have the entire

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<v Speaker 1>country of Italy declare a climate emergency because they're in

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<v Speaker 1>a major fucking drought. So you talk about the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we are all interconnected, we have not been acculturated

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<v Speaker 1>to be noble citizens, and surely not under Trumpism, because

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<v Speaker 1>that was all America first. Well, you know there is

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<v Speaker 1>no America first, Italy first, this, that and the other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all fucked right. That's what it means to be interconnected,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what it means when you don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>community mindset and instead are continuing to function in silos

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<v Speaker 1>as if one country's actions doesn't affect the other. We

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<v Speaker 1>can no longer pretend that we are not in a crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what's funny is that when you are

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<v Speaker 1>looking to voters right now on where climate change falls

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<v Speaker 1>in their list of issues that they're concerned about, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're looking at people sixty five and up, who

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<v Speaker 1>are generally the ones to vote in mid term elections

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<v Speaker 1>and off presidential year elections. They don't really care about

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<v Speaker 1>climate change, right because more than half of their lives

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<v Speaker 1>are fucking over And many people have actually articulated that

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<v Speaker 1>in the public sphere because I guess they're shame around

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<v Speaker 1>being so fucking selfish. Does not matter because the world,

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<v Speaker 1>right is just so selfish. But when you talk to

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<v Speaker 1>young people, particularly Generation Z, climate change is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the number one thing because they're wondering how they're going to,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, be able to sustain on a planet

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<v Speaker 1>that we are killing every single day. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have Joe Mansion, who has once again said that

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<v Speaker 1>he is not going to vote for any climate legislation.

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<v Speaker 1>Why should he give a fuck? His family are multi millionaires,

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<v Speaker 1>right that are making money off the backs of the poor,

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<v Speaker 1>stupid people in West Virginia. And yeah, I said stupid

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<v Speaker 1>because today I'm fucking pissed. I'm pissed that this motherfucker

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<v Speaker 1>stays in power. I'm pissed that nobody calls him out.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden and his fucking press event to the world

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<v Speaker 1>around climate change is calling out Republicans but not calling

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<v Speaker 1>out fucking Joe Mansion and Kursen Cinema. Oh, because what

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<v Speaker 1>what are we afraid of? That he's going to continue

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<v Speaker 1>doing nothing, That he's going to continue rolling with then

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<v Speaker 1>acting like a Republican and being a Democrat and fucking

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<v Speaker 1>name only. Like, at this point in time, I just

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<v Speaker 1>wish that we would stop operating from a place of

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<v Speaker 1>fucking fear and start operating from a place of reality

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<v Speaker 1>and strength. That motherfucker needs to go, right along with

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<v Speaker 1>Merritt Garland needs to go. And it's just like these

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<v Speaker 1>fucking quote unquote moderate white men are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking death of us. And I'm just wondering when

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else is going to start to realize that. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next, my conversation with voting rights advocate and political

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<v Speaker 1>narrative strategist Maya Contreras, Folks, I am very excited to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to wok F Daily for the first time, Maya

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<v Speaker 1>contrerez who is a voting rights advocate and political narrative strategist,

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<v Speaker 1>which I like that name and I may steal it

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<v Speaker 1>at some point. Maya, thank you so much for making

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<v Speaker 1>the time to join woke F. I want to start

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<v Speaker 1>off our conversation today. You know we are a month

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<v Speaker 1>plus a little bit out from the reversal of Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Wade from the Supreme Court to dramatic decision to take

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<v Speaker 1>away for the first time, I think in modern history,

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<v Speaker 1>to take away a right that Americans have had over

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<v Speaker 1>the last close to fifty years, and we are still

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with the repercussions of that. Many states, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had trigger laws that were already in place, so women

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<v Speaker 1>and people with uterus is in roughly I believe it's

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen plus states have lost the ability to have bodily autonomy.

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<v Speaker 1>The White House with their with their outgoing White House

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<v Speaker 1>Communications Director push back against activists in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>was really shocking, kind of pinning activists in a way

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<v Speaker 1>against establishment Democrats and saying that those that are fighting

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground and are the first line of defense

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<v Speaker 1>are apparently out of step quote unquote with establishment amocrats.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get your initial reaction from that statement

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know the subsequent actions and things that

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<v Speaker 1>we have been hearing, reading and observing on social media

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<v Speaker 1>in the news as it pertains to this administration emergency

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<v Speaker 1>action against this reversal. So when I first heard with

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<v Speaker 1>the outgoing Secretary set I I put like twelve hands

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<v Speaker 1>over my face. I was, I just was. I was fatterned,

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<v Speaker 1>but not surprised. And the reason why I say that

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<v Speaker 1>is my grandfather taught an American university. My mom was

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<v Speaker 1>born in Washington, d C. I spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time in DC grang up and one of the number

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<v Speaker 1>one things that I learned about DC when I was

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<v Speaker 1>eight years old was that DC is allergic to creativity.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, and I will say that because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>you have people that are moving into a bubble there

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<v Speaker 1>who are still thinking in ways that are very antiquated.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of my issues with and first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>let me say this too, I live in definitions. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that doctor ebra Max Kindy said and

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<v Speaker 1>I love, is that we need to live in the definition.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I say, when I use the word establishment,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that steps into Congress becomes establishment, I want you

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<v Speaker 1>all to understand that that is an establishment. And you're

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<v Speaker 1>moving into establishment, and you're choosing to work in an

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<v Speaker 1>establishment environment. It is very difficult to work in something

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<v Speaker 1>that was not created for the vast majority of us.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very difficult. The bones of DC inside that

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<v Speaker 1>is racism, misogyny, misogynoir. That is what you're walking into.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why that's the se as difficult. Now on top

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<v Speaker 1>of that, when you have messengers and are vast the

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<v Speaker 1>vast majority of them are white and who have never

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<v Speaker 1>worked in activist spaces or advocacy spaces, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of messaging that comes through where the fault Laes

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<v Speaker 1>is in not recognizing that they need to have more

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<v Speaker 1>people that work in those spaces inside of the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the biggest mistake. I will say she fundamentally

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment. I think I'm not going to assume

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<v Speaker 1>what she thought, but I'm assuming she did later regret

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<v Speaker 1>to say it. I think that she was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>hit hit back off of people who have been maybe

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<v Speaker 1>performative and their activism. But what it did is hurt

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<v Speaker 1>people that are waking up in their daily lives fighting

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<v Speaker 1>against this tide of racist codified policies that are coming

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<v Speaker 1>out through throughout the country. So that I will say

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<v Speaker 1>that was my initial reaction and a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>where I saw the mistake coming from. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>find that you know as somebody not not quite like you,

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<v Speaker 1>not as embedded, but I spent over fifteen years in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. I went you know, undergrad political science, grad

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<v Speaker 1>school education policy, and then worked on the hill, ran

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<v Speaker 1>the gamut until I fled DC in twenty sixteen to

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<v Speaker 1>move to New York. And what I can say about

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<v Speaker 1>inside the Beltway is that you are absolutely right. Creativity

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<v Speaker 1>is an oasis there right that many and maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>even an oasis, I'll say, a mirage that you you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of think with new administrations that you will come

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<v Speaker 1>to this place of consensus and biparticism, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and this this imagined place of yesteryear, and what we

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<v Speaker 1>are seeing, I think more and more is that the

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<v Speaker 1>behind the curtain scotch drinking, handshaking, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>politics that Joe Biden cut his teeth in are no

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<v Speaker 1>longer apparent. Yet the people that he employs and that

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<v Speaker 1>still find themselves employed in Washington, DC and in politics,

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<v Speaker 1>are still of that mindset. And so where they're viewing

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<v Speaker 1>activism right, even the acknowledgement that this administration is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to its full capacity of power to push back

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<v Speaker 1>against the compounded crises that we're dealing with, that we

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<v Speaker 1>are the problem somehow. And so you know, for many

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<v Speaker 1>activists who I've talked to, particularly around abortion. They were pissed.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been pissed at this administration. You know, they were

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<v Speaker 1>pissed at this administration because we have yet to have

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<v Speaker 1>a president under the word abortion, let alone fight for

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<v Speaker 1>it in a way that would say that we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to the very lengths that our executive

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<v Speaker 1>power allows us to go. We go in there, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And So what is it that you see or think

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<v Speaker 1>about this administration what it's been faced with, Because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that they walked into a warm, welcome setting

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<v Speaker 1>where they could kind of take on task one at

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<v Speaker 1>a time. They kind of walked into a five alarm

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<v Speaker 1>fire and now it really is one across the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think that this administration isn't getting and

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<v Speaker 1>do they have an opportunity to make a pivot? So

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<v Speaker 1>I have said this and I just said it in

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<v Speaker 1>an article I wrote for Dame this week that the

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<v Speaker 1>message is policy. So we have to look at what

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<v Speaker 1>our legislators are doing in Congress, and by that this

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<v Speaker 1>administration and by that I mean the one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth Congress is actually doing quite well. They've introduced a

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<v Speaker 1>host of amazing legislation to codify abortion, to expand protections,

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<v Speaker 1>to protect our data from being released, and things like that. However,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a Senate that is gridlocked, and no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what anyone says, Joe Biden has no sway or control

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<v Speaker 1>overmansion and cinema because these are separations of power. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not a dictator. He cannot tell them what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>These stories of LBJ saying that he leaned people in

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<v Speaker 1>the corner and intimidated him, those are overblown and if

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<v Speaker 1>you read the history the history of LBJ there, they're

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<v Speaker 1>much blown and exaggerated. Second, I will say this, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden is somebody that is a moderate president. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>when a lot of people thought when Obama got elected

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<v Speaker 1>that he was going to do all these things and

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<v Speaker 1>really swing to the left, but he was moderate too.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to recognize that when we're electing moderates, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get moderate responses. So I don't so all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that Joe Biden is doing. I'm not surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he wasn't my first pick for president either. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why to me, we have to recognize when

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<v Speaker 1>they're showing us, I'm telling us who they are. That

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<v Speaker 1>is who we're getting now regarding backdoor deals. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to that for a second. Unfortunately that

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<v Speaker 1>still exists the local level and the state level, and

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<v Speaker 1>at the federal level. I mean in New York, we're

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<v Speaker 1>both New Yorkers. We are haunted by the ghosts of

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<v Speaker 1>Tammany Hall and Robert Moses. We have so many people

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<v Speaker 1>that once they move into spaces of power, want to

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<v Speaker 1>stay there. This is the problem with the entrenchment of power.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, you have people that are willing

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<v Speaker 1>to not be transparent and the deals that they are making,

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<v Speaker 1>including city council members that I had in the past

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<v Speaker 1>really supported and liked, and then solve them change the

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<v Speaker 1>moment they moved behind that power door. So what we

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<v Speaker 1>have right now in DC is a more of a

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<v Speaker 1>rarity of people that are willing to speak their mind

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<v Speaker 1>and speak freely about it. And unfortunately a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people who've been entrenched in power are so risk averse

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<v Speaker 1>that they're the ones that are really the problem. So

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<v Speaker 1>to me, what the problem is that's going on the local, state,

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<v Speaker 1>and federal level is an aversion to risk. Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>and of traditional moderate Democrats have long looked at polls

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<v Speaker 1>to decide what people want, well Biden. If we can

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<v Speaker 1>fault Biden specifically, it will be that one, people want

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<v Speaker 1>to have access to abortion. Seventy seven percent of this

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<v Speaker 1>country supports that people support SSI, which would help the

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<v Speaker 1>disabled community. They support so many pieces of policy that

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<v Speaker 1>Biden should understand that they're popular and he can make

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<v Speaker 1>these decisions to do more. However, I will say this

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<v Speaker 1>regarding EO's executive ordered, they can only do so much.

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<v Speaker 1>They can be thrown out by our scotus, our right

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<v Speaker 1>wing scotus. They can be overturned by the next president.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is why they're very difficult. The main thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we want to do, and what I will also

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<v Speaker 1>say that Ruth Bader Ginsburg wanted to do was actually

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<v Speaker 1>Alya slowly put these pieces together so it's harder to

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<v Speaker 1>blow it down. That's why she never ever wanted row

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<v Speaker 1>Vue way to go in the way that it did. However,

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<v Speaker 1>when was the opportunity to codify it. I went through.

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<v Speaker 1>You should know that I'm an award winning researcher, So

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<v Speaker 1>I went through and would love every single Congress since

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy three to see when there was a supermajority

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<v Speaker 1>and when they could have codified, and it only happened

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<v Speaker 1>two times, Jimmy Carter's administration for two years, an Obama

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<v Speaker 1>for seventeen working days, and for a Jimmy Carter. People

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<v Speaker 1>need to understand, Jimmy Carter was not pro abortion. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want federal funds available for it, so that was

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna happen. Not only that, but he had one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty five men, men that were like, hell, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not happening, so that that was not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>The same with the Obama administration. Obama came in and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do this, naively thinking I've got the votes. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have the votes. Obama needed to look before he spoke,

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<v Speaker 1>and when saying that, you go back through and you

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<v Speaker 1>see the votes, he didn't have him. He didn't have him.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't have him. It would have been filibustered, and

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have him. If it wasn't filibustered. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is why I'm saying, we have never had the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to codify it. We've got the ACA through with the

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<v Speaker 1>skin of our teeth. So That's why people have to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that one of the ways if we want to

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<v Speaker 1>codify wrote and we're trying to do that, it's past

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<v Speaker 1>in the House is not going to pass thissent as

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<v Speaker 1>we have to elact more senators. That unfortunately sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>such an annoying and boring thing, right, But that is

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it doesn't It's not even to me, Maya

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<v Speaker 1>that it sounds boring. It's just that when I even

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<v Speaker 1>hear the word moderation right now, as we are seeing

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of literally the globe that is on fire, when

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<v Speaker 1>we are citing that, I I just watched a story

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<v Speaker 1>right before we were talking today. More women, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's up one hundred, one hundred and fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>women looking into sterilization in places like Texas and Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>That those Google searches and those um those research meetings

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<v Speaker 1>with doctors are becoming increasingly the norm because they would

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<v Speaker 1>rather sterilize then end up in a predicament where they

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<v Speaker 1>are not don't have access to contraception or changes you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in in a month um or that they in fact

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<v Speaker 1>do become pregnant and then of course are not able

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<v Speaker 1>to abort that pregnancy, and so when you hear all

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<v Speaker 1>of these stories and and I mean I could go

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<v Speaker 1>on and on and on. As people know on woke

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<v Speaker 1>a f you think to yourself, where the hell does

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<v Speaker 1>moderation make sense? Where does like you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, And that's it's just like I didn't. Biden

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<v Speaker 1>was not my first choice. He wasn't even my fifth.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when I am talking about yes, I understand that,

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<v Speaker 1>America said, you know what, here's an old white evil man,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. We're gonna get a good white old man

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<v Speaker 1>to battle against him, and then all is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be well. Well, eighteen months after an insurrection, an attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to overthrow the government, and a series of laws that

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<v Speaker 1>have been passed in red states, nowhere in sight do

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<v Speaker 1>you see Republicans working at a pace called moderation. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering what you believe is a pivot or pivots

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<v Speaker 1>that need to happen, not just from this administration, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the state and local level with Democrats in order

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<v Speaker 1>to one hold on to the majority in the House

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<v Speaker 1>and in the Senate, even if it's by the skin

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<v Speaker 1>of their goddamn teeth, to avert fascism, but in general,

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize that this incremental change in progress that we've

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<v Speaker 1>been kind of feeding people for decades plus, it ain't

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<v Speaker 1>it anymore. Sure. I would also say a couple of things. One, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not someone who believes in moderation when there is

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<v Speaker 1>multiple crisis. There's a mental health crisis, there's an environmental crisis,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a public health crisis. There's multiple crisises, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>crisiss means they're that their need quick emergency response. But

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<v Speaker 1>let me say this first. A lot of the white

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<v Speaker 1>people that ended up voting for Joe Biden, that moved

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<v Speaker 1>over to him, this is fine for a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to understand this was fine for them. They're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that we're good. Now we're going to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to brunch. This was fine, okay, So they don't care. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this within Congress. The reason why moderation

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<v Speaker 1>has been a word used to describe Congress for so long,

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<v Speaker 1>why because seventy seven percent of our Congress now is

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<v Speaker 1>still white. The vast majority of it. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight, seventy six percent, no, sorry, seventy three percent

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<v Speaker 1>is male. So you've understand that black women, women in

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<v Speaker 1>color and Congress LGBTQ members, disabled members, they're still make

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<v Speaker 1>up twenty seven percent a fraction of Congress. So when

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<v Speaker 1>we say, well, why are things working at such a

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<v Speaker 1>moderate pace, you have to understand that the vast majority

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<v Speaker 1>of Congress doesn't see that necessarily as an emergency. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying there aren't some Donald Trump, some very fine

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<v Speaker 1>white people on the Democratic sun. I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously by Chris Murphy wants gun safety. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have white women in there that are fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>abortion access. But you have to understand, for the vast

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<v Speaker 1>majority of time, these are people that don't necessarily understand

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<v Speaker 1>what daily discrimination looks like. They don't know what that

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<v Speaker 1>Black women go through a medical term called weathering due

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<v Speaker 1>to daily discrimination, and it weathers on body. They don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They kind of started recognizing that during COVID, when black

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<v Speaker 1>and brown people were dying at a disproportionate rate, that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that correlated with health brand and the way that

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<v Speaker 1>we either use I don't know, maybe cigarettes or drinking

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<v Speaker 1>to cope with daily discrimination or lack of opportunities and

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<v Speaker 1>all those other stuff. So hye poppies, Sorry, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just in the building and exactly they're they're just

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<v Speaker 1>they're just like co signing that exactly mine. Ye right.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm saying is that the reason why the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party had long held moderation as a standard is

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<v Speaker 1>because you mostly like white people. Now that we have

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<v Speaker 1>more black people, more queer people in it, that isn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily the narrative anymore. All the great policies, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that I've talked about, to codify marriage equality, to quotify

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<v Speaker 1>abortion rights and all that stuff, most of it came

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<v Speaker 1>from black and brown people in Congress. If you look

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<v Speaker 1>at these battis. So that's what I'm saying. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party couldn't have a long term strategy because it

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<v Speaker 1>did not include it for a very long time, centering

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<v Speaker 1>people that were the closest to the harm. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is why things are starting to change. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>also why we need to elect more inclusive It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just about representation, it's also about inclusivity. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>lack people that do understand the public health crisis. We

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<v Speaker 1>want people to understand that this is a as a

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<v Speaker 1>now situation, and and that's how it's going to change.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll say that, you know, I wonder though, my

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<v Speaker 1>you know, haven't we run out of time? Because here,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is this is kind of this is the

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<v Speaker 1>place that I am into where I'm just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear from people who are young, who are younger

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<v Speaker 1>right generation Z and I guess you know early still

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<v Speaker 1>late and millennials who are just like I've been told

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<v Speaker 1>that every election since the first one that I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to vote in is the most consequential election of

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<v Speaker 1>my time. I've been told for you know, every every

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<v Speaker 1>single time that like now, we're never right, this one

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<v Speaker 1>is actually the most consequential election of all time. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if you know, if we're just pressing pause

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<v Speaker 1>on the catastrophe that our democracy is in, or if

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<v Speaker 1>we really do believe that if we hold on by

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<v Speaker 1>the skin of our teeth come November and then we

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<v Speaker 1>continue to hold on in twenty twenty four, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a real long shot, that somehow we can write this ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Because to your point, we know who the problem is.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been six white men, hetero Christian and I

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<v Speaker 1>use quotations in power that have been the problem because

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<v Speaker 1>any of the things that we are seeing be thrown

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<v Speaker 1>out of the window in regard to our rights don't

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<v Speaker 1>affect them, right. So I'm just wondering, like, have we

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<v Speaker 1>run at a time as we were preparing for and

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<v Speaker 1>hoping for a demographic shift that was going to allow

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<v Speaker 1>us to have more representation in the way that we

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<v Speaker 1>needed it to have the kind of real, sustainable change

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<v Speaker 1>that is necessary to write this imbalance. So I will

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<v Speaker 1>say fabulous framing fabulous Russian. I will say this first,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that every election is consequential. Every single election

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<v Speaker 1>is consequential, every single one. I also want to make

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<v Speaker 1>a distinction really quickly. The Republican Party has such an

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<v Speaker 1>easy time. If you're only guarding white supremacy. Wow, you

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<v Speaker 1>got one goal, pretty easy. They're protecting whiteness and the

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<v Speaker 1>alliance of whiteness. It doesn't matter if you're black or brown,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the Republican Party, you're still signing up for

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<v Speaker 1>the alliance of whiteness. That is what's happening in the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Party. Okay, So they have one goal, protect white

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<v Speaker 1>supremacy and protect profits. That is it. The Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 1>became the Civil Rights Party in nineteen sixty four, officially

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<v Speaker 1>at that point with the signing of the Civil Rights

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<v Speaker 1>Act and then with the signing of the Voting Rights Act,

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<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't a purposeful mission of the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like LBJ felt he wanted to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>honor JFK's legacy. JFK kind of was like, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we should sign in civil rights, you know, he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of reluctantly did it was killed. LBJ signed it in,

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<v Speaker 1>and then black people began to make the Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 1>what it is moving towards at that moment. So there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a long term plan because our party is only

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven years old. And really, as more groups begin

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<v Speaker 1>to get civil rights, for example, when the nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>Disability Act was signed in Americans with disability acquisigned, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're moving more disabled people into it and more

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.880
<v Speaker 1>disabled people, there's flit. They they're in the Republican Party

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 1>than the Democratic Party. But then also imbued our party

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>more with protections. So the Democratic Party has a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a harder time on messaging and long term

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>strategy and planning because we are the only game in town. Okay,

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.640
<v Speaker 1>if we're the only ones that are saying we do

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 1>want gun safety, we're the only ones in town. That

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 1>we're saying we do want trans rights. We're all the

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<v Speaker 1>lgbtwo Q members in Congress right now, there's eleven of them.

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 1>They're all in the Democratic Party. Okay, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize that that is what that's what the difference

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<v Speaker 1>is between the two parties. Now, I will also say

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<v Speaker 1>this as we try to make these parties more inclusive

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<v Speaker 1>at the local, state, and federal level. The problem is

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 1>gate keeping starts at the local level. At the local level,

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<v Speaker 1>the demographics mirror Congress. It's overwhelmingly white, overwhelmingly wealthy. Because

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>people tend to think of Congress and a hierarchy, it's

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>not power brokers. Start right at the local level. We

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>should be looking at it in this kind of way.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the ones making decisions at the local level. That

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<v Speaker 1>also is funding, it's all of these things, neighborhoods, and

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously at the state level, that's jerrymandering, that's determining

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>all of these other laws, right, state laws. So all

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>of these are are mostly white men moving in. So

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<v Speaker 1>to me, if I want the Democratic Party to have

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<v Speaker 1>a plan, and they do, which is one we know

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>that the Republicans have decided to continue to openly behave

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<v Speaker 1>in an extreme way that that is never are going

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<v Speaker 1>to change and less the power dynamic changes. And so

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>for example, let me move into this that's every where

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>you changeing the lost. The Democrats can move the filibuster

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way, and then we can flood the

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 1>flood the zone with policy. But then the Democrats have

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>to recognize that they have to start investing more at

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the local and state level too. Right now that infrastructure

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>is not there. I'm glad that Jamie Harrison kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sees that at the DNC. At the same time, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still really frustrating because we also need a public to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that if we want to change local, state, and

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 1>federal policy, we really have to be involved. And let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you, like my husband and I are constantly

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>walking around and meeting and talking to people about politics

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and policy. And the vast majority of people in this

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>country don't even know who their governor is, I know

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>who their local representative is. So there's a lot of

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>people that are politically involved. So unfortunately activists are doing

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the heavy lifting and trying to show

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<v Speaker 1>up vote. So we need to get the general public

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>more involved. We still have a terrible vote record in

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>this country. This last election in twenty twenty is one

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of the highest thresholds we've ever had in it was

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 1>still only sixty percent. Forty percent of people decided to

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<v Speaker 1>still set it out. So if we want things to change, yes,

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>we can totally yell up by my criticized by it

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>on the line all the time. I tried to be

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<v Speaker 1>very specific in my criticisms and very specifically in my

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>criticism with Congress. But we also need to criticize aspects

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>of the public that are sitting it out, that are brunching,

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that are taking their vacations. They're allowed to do that,

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>but they also need to show up to vote. They

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>also need to show up and show that there are

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>people that are lives in the line. And so I

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>think that's where we also, I think so that's why

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the conversation to me, I wanted to be more holistic

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>for the national conversation that I think we should be having. Yeah,

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and I will I will say this that you know,

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>with regard to civic engagement in this country, it has

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>never been a value or a tenant right because if

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>it was, then our public education in our K through

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>twelfth schooling would look a hell of a lot different.

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>You would be graduating with your with your voter registration

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>as well as receiving your cap and gown in your diploma.

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>We would have a rigorous civic engagement program that would

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<v Speaker 1>be about understanding all the different facets of government so

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<v Speaker 1>that it is not a surprise on your eighteenth birthday

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>when you're able to go and pull a level in

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>a polling place, what that actually means, and what your

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>affect and what your power is at your state and

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>local level. There's a purpose to keeping people ignorant so

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.479
<v Speaker 1>that you're able to control them, but then blame them

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day to say, well, why

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't you get involved? Well, I don't know enough to

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>get involved. And the way in which this country has

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>decided to miseducate me has left us with forty percent

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>of the population unable to unwilling to vote because a

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>they don't know anything, or me what they do know

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>is enough to make them want to sit out. Yeah,

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>really quickly to that there are there's a reason for

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that one. New Gangridge and to the Telecommunications Act in

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety four. New Gangridge want an experts and civics

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>to be done and over, and when he won control

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>of the House in the nineties, he made that his

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.719
<v Speaker 1>mission to pull experts out of Congress and to slow

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the role on civic education programs. I'm somebody that was

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>civically educated when I was a young child in New Mexico,

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>but that has stopped. So I want you to know

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>that Republicans are responsible for helping getting now and then

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>two with the Telecommunications Act, when you stopped having two

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>different pundits from two different you know, I would say

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>on the different ends of the polar spectrum being in

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the same room and having, you know, having to speak

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>to each other. That also ruined engagement and being able

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>to kind of confront the bullshit that was coming out

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>of like Fox News as his mouth. It's the reason

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 1>why Fox News can exist, that Sinclair can take over

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>local stations and miseducate people on purpose and also call

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>themselves entertainment so they don't have to be called news.

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>So this is why, and I agree with you completely.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, anyways, I know we're wrapping this up. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say thank you so much for having me.

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I could talk to you about this all day long,

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>but again, thank you so much. Thank you, Maya. This

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>has been a really great conversation. I know folks are

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>going to enjoy it, and I really do hope that

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<v Speaker 1>you come back, because we only touched the edge of

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the glacier that is rapidly melting, and I would love

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to talk to you again. So appreciate you.

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